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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Here we come. Welcome to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald's time to stop

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Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing you all.

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Speaker 1: We always talking about gifts, We always talking about passions.

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Speaker 1: If you have a gift, lead with it and don't

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Speaker 1: let your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning

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Speaker 1: or living your dreams. I guess a longtime friend powerhouse

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Speaker 1: husband he's new my life, like I've stated it, builder

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Speaker 1: Mike Jackson. They're based in Atlanta. If you can be

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Speaker 1: a dreamer and you want to dream about it, your home,

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Speaker 1: your head and your family, think about the Egypt will

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Speaker 1: designer and Mike will build it. That's a slogan, not

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Speaker 1: And they all beautiful dollars, so precious, especially the young

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Speaker 1: one when he has when you have this one scene

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Speaker 1: You're gonna love him. They make it look effortless and

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Speaker 1: fund in a new HDTV series marriedt to Real Estate,

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Speaker 1: available to stream owned Discovery Plus. You can also catch

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Speaker 1: Egypt and Mike's guests judges in the last season or

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Speaker 1: h G t v's mega hit home renovation competition series

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Speaker 1: Rock the Block, where you see four competing teams. You'd

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Speaker 1: also stream Egest previously because you know she's been out there.

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Speaker 1: Mike's a new one. You know, she's she's bringing him

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Speaker 1: into the into the the you know, the hands of

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Speaker 1: behind up here. Now you see why she's happy all

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Speaker 1: the time. Now Discovery plus we're looking at the new renovation.

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Speaker 1: King and Queen King and Queen of Atva. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: ra Sean. We appreciate that love. And you're absolutely right. Um,

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Speaker 1: Michael's death, you know, opportunities. She's not. She's fearless because

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Speaker 1: Plus I found a family environment that I was engaged with.

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Speaker 1: a great TV show. It's no doubt in my mind

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Speaker 1: Great now, Mike, you know when I google Egypt, you

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that the potential of who y'all

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Speaker 1: That's what I know. It's special because I'm going like,

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Speaker 1: be able to make sure that you hit that number. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: a lot of relationships for one um with subs, with

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Speaker 1: a lot of big box stores, with a lot of friends,

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Speaker 1: you know, so those relationships I keep those in mind

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Speaker 1: as I'm going through properties. But in this day and

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Speaker 1: age where wood and materials are fluctuating price and sometimes

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Speaker 1: over priced, I have to get creative, you know, where

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Speaker 1: we go to refurbished properties or refurbish warehouses and use

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Speaker 1: materials or I use things that I may have in

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Speaker 1: my warehouse. You know. Yeah, we actually did that on

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Speaker 1: so many episodes, where we reuse things and repurpose them

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Speaker 1: right and make them updated. You know, it's not always

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Speaker 1: about let's let's demolish this and make a great scene.

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Speaker 1: It's about let's do those smart decisions that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: sense so we can hit that target. Yeah, but Rashoon,

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Speaker 1: sometimes we gotta give the bad news. You know, the

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Speaker 1: bad news is this is your budget, but we just

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Speaker 1: can't do it for that budget because the reality is

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Speaker 1: stuff st out of stock right now, we're still in

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Speaker 1: the pandemic and materials are sparse, so you know, it

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Speaker 1: may cost forty percent more than it would have cost

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Speaker 1: last year or six six months ago. Um, that's when

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Speaker 1: I let him get the bad news. Materials. And not

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Speaker 1: only have materials went up, but the price of laborers

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Speaker 1: went up as well. So people are extremely shocked by pricing.

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Speaker 1: So some of some of my clients that booked our

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Speaker 1: company before the pandemic and they wanted to wait, they

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Speaker 1: are now called and get inside swiped. You know, so

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Speaker 1: story at this moment, well, I'm talking to Egypt Sharad,

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Speaker 1: she's the queen, and Mike Jackson he's the king, and

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Speaker 1: you're married to real estate. It's a it's an exciting

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Speaker 1: new show. It's a show. A reason I say it's

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Speaker 1: exciting because they're refreshing, they're entertaining. I want to invite

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Speaker 1: him into my home. You will invite him into your home.

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Speaker 1: Discovery Plus, they're streaming right now. You don't know Egypt

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Speaker 1: shra She has a bootcoo amount of work that's on

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Speaker 1: Discovered Plus right now. She is the experts, she's the

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Speaker 1: queen of all respect her. My long this is not

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Speaker 1: it's not being based on my long time of relationship.

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Speaker 1: When I mentioned her name and my house, my wife

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Speaker 1: knew immediately who she was, and that was to be

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Speaker 1: a testament that my wife respects you and wants to

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Speaker 1: be excited about this new venture for you guys. More importantly,

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Speaker 1: I just see a couple of new stars of TV

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Speaker 1: that's going to like take over the game. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I'm humble when I say that

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Speaker 1: because I'm blessed it. I can say that I could

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Speaker 1: have said this five years ago. That's how times have changed.

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Speaker 1: You guys are landing at the right time on TV.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing on that show that I was not disappointed in.

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Speaker 1: I was it was funny, it was organic, it was natural,

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Speaker 1: and I felt like it was a couple just happens

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Speaker 1: to have a camera following them around on a on

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Speaker 1: a rebuild. That's all I saw. That means a lot

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Speaker 1: coming from We know you know talent, We know that

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Speaker 1: you you know you helped mold talent as well. Um

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Speaker 1: and I actually remember a conversation. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember it, but I'm gonna take you down memory

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Speaker 1: lane just a little bit before we go. I was

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Speaker 1: working at WBLS in New York City. I want to

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Speaker 1: say this was about thirteen years ago. Two or thirteen

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Speaker 1: years ago. Uh, And I said, for Sean, I gotta

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Speaker 1: keep this on the down low, but I'm thinking about

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Speaker 1: making the move to Atlanta, right And I know that

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Speaker 1: you're in Atlanta. What do you think is that a

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Speaker 1: good move for me? And you said, come on, come

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Speaker 1: over here to my office, which by the way, happened

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Speaker 1: to be like a little production client at that moment

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Speaker 1: that moment, and you sat me down and you said, this,

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Speaker 1: this is the deal. Atlanta. It's for big dogs. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: a star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: You got some incredible young black entrepreneurs there, and so

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Speaker 1: if you come in Atlanta, you gotta have your stuff together,

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Speaker 1: so you get your game plan first and then you

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Speaker 1: work your plan. I don't know if you if you

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Speaker 1: remember this conversation, but it sticks out to me because

501
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Speaker 1: moving here from New York after cementing myself as a

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Speaker 1: radio personality there for many years, was a big, bold

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Speaker 1: move and it was you know, it took a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know, it took a lot of guns, and

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Speaker 1: you know, for us to just say we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a chance and bet on ourselves and rebuild in an

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Speaker 1: entirely different city where we didn't know anybody in it

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Speaker 1: was had several conversations because you know, she followed us

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, now, you know, and so I was always

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Speaker 1: talking about is always talking about winning, always talking about

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Speaker 1: But one thing I did like about it she always

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Speaker 1: had multiple strings of income. Ye see right there. She

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Speaker 1: was my friend because that's important in today's society to

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Speaker 1: be able to wake up and realize you have options.

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Speaker 1: And when I sat down I remember that conversation because

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Speaker 1: it's funny Egypt. I get that a lot from people

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Speaker 1: to say, which you remember when you told me this,

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Speaker 1: And I have an honest side of me that I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you, Look, you need to stay up here.

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Speaker 1: This hit. But I knew that she had a sense

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Speaker 1: of the gift to be able to do more. But

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Speaker 1: if you go down there, know what you're walking into

523
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Speaker 1: because it's going to happen. And guess what, everything's time

524
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Speaker 1: that right, it is the new Hollywood. You know the pricings. Right,

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Speaker 1: y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable now. I just

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Speaker 1: gotta get y'all come by my house and remodel my

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Speaker 1: back and there we don't talk about that. I'm just

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Speaker 1: making you do. Zoe, you know, you know, you know

529
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Speaker 1: you're in these calls and then you go bye bye.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, they said't gonna give me his novel?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, but again,

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Speaker 1: watch this show is is streaming right now. It's streaming

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Speaker 1: right now on Discovery Plus. Marriage to Real Estate Stars

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Speaker 1: of Egypt, Sharrod my Man, Mike Jackson, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on Monday, making comes It is tomorrow night. But

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Speaker 1: he may be running this. Mike Mike, Mike, Mike. You

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Speaker 1: need to be quiet. You need to be quiet. You're

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Speaker 1: saying right there, see TV person don't know it premiers

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Man, you're streaming nowadays. You stream I'm helping

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Speaker 1: him out at him. This is this is a run

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Speaker 1: next week. It's gonna run in the in March, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna run the summer. We're gonna keep getting dial looads

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Speaker 1: and views. You need to be quiet. I'm tired of

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Speaker 1: talking to you. I'm glad you did. You did. Uh

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Speaker 1: we said he did the Good Morning America Today show.

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Speaker 1: He did buy yourself right by Yourself show. You talked

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Speaker 1: too much. He talked about it. I love your bow again.

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Speaker 1: It's streaming. It's streaming right now on Discovery Plus. Watch

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Speaker 1: it daytime, nighttime, midnight. It's just own. This ain't old TV.

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Speaker 1: When you gotta watch eight o'clock, It's own right now.

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Speaker 1: Just turn on and click it. It's a beautiful show,

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Speaker 1: beautiful family, a great real estate show about remodeling, renovation,

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Speaker 1: getting the right value for the right couple to change

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Speaker 1: their lines. Thank you for coming on. Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass we will be right back with more money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation with Rashan McDonald. You are now tuned into the

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm Roushan McDonald for Money Making Conversation with your daily

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Speaker 1: Minute of Inspiration. Coach Dion Sander talks about his purpose, passion,

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Speaker 1: and his peace on a recent show to my You know,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not passionate about it, it cannot be my purpose.

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Speaker 1: And God blesses what I'm passionate about and some things

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Speaker 1: I want to do but it ain't me. I would

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Speaker 1: love to do it, but it ain't me. And you

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Speaker 1: got to decipher in your life between what you are

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Speaker 1: you really passionate about and God will blessing or things

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Speaker 1: that you want to do. It's like decided between needs

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Speaker 1: and one. Once to point of time. I used to

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Speaker 1: that type of cash and you can get whatever you wanted.

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Speaker 1: Now it's all about your needs. You still have the resources.

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Speaker 1: I still have the finances to do it, but now

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Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I guess Tatiana Ali has a journey. A Harvard grad

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Speaker 1: actress singer. Her resume includes the Fresh Prince of Berlair,

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Speaker 1: Loved That Girl, the CBS soap Proper Young In the Wrestlers,

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Speaker 1: and many many more. And but on this show today,

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Speaker 1: she's going to talk about a new Lifetime original movie,

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Speaker 1: Vanished Searching for My Sister, which premieres Saturday, January twenty

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Speaker 1: second on Lifetime a PM seven Central. Here's the great

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Speaker 1: thing to bouy. It's gonna see Tatiana like you've never

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Speaker 1: seen it before. She plays the role of twins Jada

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Speaker 1: and Kayla, who could not be more opposite. I've seen

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Speaker 1: the movie. As they say, if you have four starts,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving it all four plus a little pinky for

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Speaker 1: a plus. It's really that good. So please work with

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Speaker 1: money making conversation as we are explore her life and

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Speaker 1: talk to my friends oft the HPC. You talk to

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Speaker 1: my friends across the country as well as about black excellence,

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Speaker 1: and she does exemplify that. The movie vanished searching for

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Speaker 1: my sister to star. Tatiana Ali, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. There's always a

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Speaker 1: journey in uh your career, especially you're starting at such

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Speaker 1: a young age, and that's one of the one reasons

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you on this show, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we've seen so many tragic stories of young people not

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Speaker 1: being able to get over the hulp. I've been fortunate.

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Speaker 1: I've written sitcoms Robert Townsend, Sister Sister, Jamie Foxes, and

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Speaker 1: The Parkers, so I've I've worked with young talent, and

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Speaker 1: you're a young talent. You're still finding yourself in this business.

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Speaker 1: Talk about starting in this business and being able to

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Speaker 1: survive in this business, Tatiana. Um, I think for for

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Speaker 1: young people especially, UM, it's hard to you know, have

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Speaker 1: a career and just go through the natural challenges of

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Speaker 1: growing up. And young performers need all of the support

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Speaker 1: that you know every other child needs. And sometimes you

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Speaker 1: know we we we tend to be precocious, right, UM,

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Speaker 1: usually intelligent, artistic, and are able to take on a

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Speaker 1: lot of responsibility. And I think you know, even people

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Speaker 1: that I've known in my life, um, growing up who

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Speaker 1: were also actors, um, who necessarily didn't do so well

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Speaker 1: in life afterwards. UM, you need that support system, and

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Speaker 1: you need somebody to sometimes treat you like a child

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Speaker 1: and tell you know, guide you rear you. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think all that responsibility that we kind of exude fools

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Speaker 1: people into thinking that we're okay when we're not okay,

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Speaker 1: or that we need less than we actually need. And

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky if if you know, if I have been

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Speaker 1: successful in life, which I feel, I feel happy with

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Speaker 1: my life. UM, that's all because of my family. You know,

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Speaker 1: my parents they could care less about entertainment or fame. UM.

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Speaker 1: They really raised me too. Hopefully be courageous enough to

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Speaker 1: just do what I love, whatever that is. And so

636
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: my pride and my understanding of self is not really

637
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: wrapped up in what I do. I exist outside of it.

638
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: You know, acting, performing, that's just what I do. It's

639
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: not it doesn't make up all of me. And I

640
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: think that's allowed me to, you know, for the with

641
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: the highs and the lows of my career. You know,

642
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: it's always interesting when when you get in entertainment because

643
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: people are kind of short trained because used the word

644
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: intelligence is smarts, because some people tend to think that

645
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: there's a limit to the abilities. And that's why I

646
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: made sure I put Harvard Grad. If you had to

647
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: put Harvard Grad actress, singer, which one of those three

648
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: would you be most proud and be willing to brag

649
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: about the most? Oh that's a good question. You know.

650
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I was talking to my husband about this because you know,

651
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Lonnie Guinier just passed. She's a Harvard law professor. I

652
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: knew about her growing up. You know, she worked in

653
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: UH I think it was Bill Clinton's administration. And I

654
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: remember my first week at Harvard and she had just

655
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: started her professorship there and I saw her walk across

656
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: campus and like, I've never I've been rich. I've been

657
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: kind of like star struck twice in my life and

658
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: they weren't entertainers. One was Macy Jamison. I met her

659
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: in an CP function. I was like eleven, and I

660
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: really wanted to go to Space Camp when I was

661
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: a kid. That was like she was everything, Like I

662
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: had her poster on my well. And then the second

663
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: time was when I saw Lottie Gumer on campus, and

664
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I think I think

665
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: there's something about those women, you know, exceeding the expectations

666
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: of their society, kind of like just going after their

667
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: dreams and then also giving so much to others in

668
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: their work that that is what impressed me as a

669
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: as a as a young woman, and so so in

670
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: that thinking about that, maybe maybe going to school is

671
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm like, hey, I'll do that, because

672
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: it was the thing that I really had to I

673
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: was very deep in my music and in touring at

674
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: the time that I got accepted, and I remember very

675
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: distinctly having a meeting, you know, a seventeen year old

676
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: girl in a meeting with all these executives saying, guess

677
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: what I just got accepted to these different places, and

678
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I want to go, and then going, what do you

679
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: mean you want to go? Why do you need that?

680
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: If you do that, then you can't do this, which

681
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see that. Now that's just kind

682
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: of an unacceptable thing to say to a young person.

683
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, back then it really was

684
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: people really thought like, oh, school was something to fall

685
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: back on. And I always had this very deep, just

686
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: like an intuitive understanding that why wouldn't you want me

687
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: to go to school? Why would you why why would

688
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: an artist not need to be educated? Why would you

689
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: not need to know what you're saying, what you're contributing? How?

690
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, the beauty of it is like my

691
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: degree is in mathematics, you know, my minors and sociology

692
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: and uh. And so when I was whenever I tell people,

693
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: despite all the success I have, you know, whether it's

694
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: managing and Steve Harvey or Stephen Nay Smith for doing movies, uh, sitcoms,

695
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: when I tell people I have a math degree, it

696
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: almost shuts the room down a little bit. Humh. And so,

697
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: so because people don't expect that, they expect what they

698
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: expect when you say if you're an athlete. You know,

699
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: that's why applaud Lebron James so much. I applaud you

700
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: because one can stand that lane, because sometimes that lane

701
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: can box you in, because people can throw fear at you.

702
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: Said no, no, no no, if you go do this,

703
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: you can't do this. And guess what. You went there,

704
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: did that and guess what I'm interviewing about a very

705
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: great movie on Lifetime original called Vans Searching for My Sister.

706
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: So it didn't stop you from achieving a continued level

707
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: of success in the entertainment the world. That's why I

708
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: really feel is a blessing. And you know my question

709
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: is just to ask and just to get you to

710
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: think about it because I commend you. I applaud you

711
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: because that's a decision you had to make. You had

712
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: to get up, you had to open up that book.

713
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: You had to stay committed, and you could have turned

714
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: and ran off. And so I don't want to do this.

715
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Just look, find me a stage, find me a script,

716
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: so I can go on in a short term success.

717
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, you can get any whoa I'm a star game.

718
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: But you walked on that campus and basically became a

719
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: student and that's a blessing. Yeah, it was, and it

720
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: was a It was a culture shot because all of

721
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, well I had been working for

722
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: so long and and going to school at the same time.

723
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: But I had tutors, I had you know, I was

724
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: in studio school, so all of a sudden, to be

725
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: given a syllabus, I was like, what I remember? I

726
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: remember even what I wore, Like, I had two types

727
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: of clothes in my wardrobe. I had rehearsal clothes and

728
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: a athleisure wasn't a thing that you know, rehearsal clothes,

729
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: and then I had like super fancy like out there.

730
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: So I even had to go and like go to

731
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: the store with my mom when we first got you know,

732
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: into Cambridge, and like just buy some jeans, right right right,

733
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: just be normal, just have the style. I really I

734
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: love the fact you said you had two outfits because basically,

735
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: in the movie Vanished, you're playing two roles, and basically

736
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: it's two outfits. There is one of this humble, you know,

737
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: studious type person. That's why I love this thing because

738
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: it kind of blends your life, you know, because you

739
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: were just this this this outrageous not since the outrage it.

740
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: But you was this actor, this entertainer that was kind

741
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: of like one twin sister. And then this this, this,

742
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: this Harvard student was the other sister. So basically, I'm

743
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: not saying, basically, you live this life, but now you're

744
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: living in to the extremes in a movie. What what

745
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: attracted you to this project? I love the idea of well,

746
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: it's it's actually based on a true story. So, UM,

747
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: a woman actually did do this. Her twin sister had disappeared. Her.

748
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Her twin was an ex addict, She had a had

749
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: a harder life than than UM than her sister and UM,

750
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: but they were very very close, and her sister went

751
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: missing and her her twin, the twin that remained. UM

752
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: just would not allow her sister to not have justice

753
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: or to not be found. And I loved that part

754
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: of the story especially you know, UM, black women disappear

755
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: a lot. A lot of people have been talking about that,

756
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: and you know, the efforts that are made to find

757
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: them or to find out what happened to him sometimes

758
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: just aren't there. And I think that was the case

759
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: with this woman, and she just wouldn't stand for that.

760
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: She made sure that her sister's life mattered, and I

761
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: was really attracted to that. Also was really attracted to

762
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: just the chow on to playing these two totally different

763
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: women who grew up in the same home but took

764
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: completely different paths in life. Um. That was really exciting

765
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: and also kind of scary because I've never I've never

766
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: done anything like that before. And the sister who's an

767
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: ex addict, Kayla m I very rarely get the opportunity

768
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: to play um women like that, and I really I

769
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: loved her. I wish I could have played her more

770
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: in the in the movie. Actually, well, you know, I

771
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: thought you kind of playing you did a great job

772
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: because you got to play both sides of it. And

773
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: the thing about it that I enjoyed because I've been

774
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: fortunate to, you know, do that twin role production wise,

775
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: and I know, and you have to you have to

776
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: do the lines and you have to do the other lines.

777
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: You it's really it looks like it's easy, but it's

778
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: really difficult. At what time did you you know, when

779
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: you're dealing with that split personality and and and and

780
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: laying it out, what challenges did you face and play

781
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: and both roles, especially when you were the characters were

782
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: talking to each other. Yeah, there's um, it's you know,

783
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: a million challenges differentiating to you know, the work that

784
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: I would usually do going into a film, the character

785
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: development that's all of that is times two and then

786
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: times three because I then am alone working on the

787
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: relationship between the two sisters. Usually, you know, I might

788
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: have my guesses or my instincts of what a relationship

789
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: is in a story, but I have another actor that

790
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: I can uh, you know, consult with and vibe off

791
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: up and figure it out with. But with them, you know,

792
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: it's just me creating this relationship. I worked with really

793
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: great stand ins who, um, they were just excellent and

794
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: just like with their with me on that um. But yeah,

795
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: the split screen work was that was a beast. And

796
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: you know, we made this movie in three weeks, which

797
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: is it's a truncated schedule to be claiming to characters,

798
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: and so there were many days where I was, um,

799
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: both Kayla and Jada on the same day, and I

800
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: really relied on makeup and hair and and the costumers

801
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: who are incredible to just I love the makeup and

802
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: hair room. That's like my safe space when I would

803
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: switch from one to the other. They were just they

804
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: were I had the most beautiful souls to work with

805
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: and helped me through them. If anybody is ever questioning

806
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: the athleticism of Ali not in this. Once you watch

807
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: this particular movie, this young lady jumps over a head.

808
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean I fell out. You know, I played it back.

809
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: I played the back. I laughed, So I said, well,

810
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: this is this is awesome. You jumped over that book.

811
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is I loved it

812
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: because that's how as you you say, a black woman

813
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: acts when they see their babies in danger. You reacted

814
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: like a black woman, like my momble, like my son,

815
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: see somebody out there messing with their kids. Jim, you

816
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: got out there. Now, let's talk about was that? Was

817
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: that just? Uh? Because it was it in the way

818
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: could you have went around that scene? It was amazing,

819
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: It was It was great, Diana. I'm not even telling

820
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: it was amazing that you did it. It felt so real,

821
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: It felt like you were in the moment and its

822
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: soul that scene. It's funny that you bring that up,

823
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: because when we were shooting it, I remember the director going,

824
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, he was, he was like, we got this.

825
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: He's like, I want you to come out the door,

826
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: and I just want you to make a beeline. I

827
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: don't want you to go to the sidewalks. It seems

828
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: too far. What do you think? But this hedge is

829
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: in the way, and maybe we could just have them

830
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: cut it down or something so you could run through it.

831
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know what I would do?

832
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm a mom, and uh, even before

833
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: I was a mom, I had a puppy who ended

834
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: up on the outside of offense. Luckily, my children have

835
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: never been in this kind of dangerous situation, so I

836
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: haven't had that experience yet, or you know, hopefully I

837
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: prayed that I won't. But I had a puppy who

838
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: was outside a much taller offense and the traffic was

839
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: rushing back and forth, and I jumped over that, I

840
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: mean sense it was about four ft tall, and got

841
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: my puppy and then was locked out of my house, Like,

842
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: how did I do back? I can't get back in.

843
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: We will be right back with more money making conversation

844
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Before there was the podcast, there was radio,

845
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: before that, the stage and before that, well you get

846
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: the idea. Things evolve, Technology changes and we do too,

847
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Speaker 1: So now we can listen to a show wherever, whenever. However,

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Speaker 1: why should our work be any different? Why can't we

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Speaker 1: Slack works. It's a digital headquarters that works how you work,

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Speaker 1: and Slack is where the future works. Now let's return

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Speaker 1: to money making conversation with Rashan McDonald. I'm telling you something.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to town Alid the athletic, the Olympic, you know,

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Speaker 1: the hurdler, the hurdler, the hurdler, you know, talking about

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Speaker 1: her new movie Lifetime, which premier is Saturday, January twenty second,

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Speaker 1: vanished searching for my sister. I let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: What I watched a lot of movie, read a lot

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Speaker 1: of books. I I always get a kick out of

859
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Speaker 1: moments like this where they're seeing you know. All I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying is this. You were so natural when you

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Speaker 1: did that moment. It sold me. Not only I was

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Speaker 1: bought in. I bought into the movie, but that moment

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Speaker 1: showed me a level of commitment because you know, you

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Speaker 1: could just see some people when they try to do

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Speaker 1: something they're not used to doing. When you did that,

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Speaker 1: I went wow. I didn't expect that, But guess what

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Speaker 1: her children were in danger? And then you had some great, great,

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Speaker 1: great other people starring is but Girl, Jas, Mcguy and

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Speaker 1: Tretch and all everybody nature frame that right there. Boy.

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Speaker 1: You know, like I said, let's let's talk about acting

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Speaker 1: with them. I know you have a history with them.

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Speaker 1: You we've seen them all on TV and movies over

873
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Speaker 1: the years and watching performing on stage. In the case

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Speaker 1: of Tretch, talk about bringing that all together, because it

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Speaker 1: really did sell a CD community versus the world that

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Speaker 1: you lived in and allowed you to understand. And also

877
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Speaker 1: I felt danger for you. I felt that you you

878
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Speaker 1: were stepping too far out. Young ladies. You need to

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Speaker 1: shut it down. You need to shut it down. Do

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Speaker 1: you know where you're at? So talk about that those

881
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: experiences allowing them to build that real culture of credibility

882
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: to you walk in both worlds. I I just absolutely

883
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: loved this cast, every every single body, I mean every

884
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Speaker 1: single person. Um. Tretch, who is you know? I think

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Speaker 1: the first time I met him, I was like fifteen

886
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Speaker 1: or sixteen, Um, and he is just the kindest. He's

887
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: so lovely and he there's actually a scene in the

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Speaker 1: club where he sort of, you know, grips up my

889
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Speaker 1: character against the wall, and he's such a good actor.

890
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Speaker 1: I you know, after they yelled cut, I had to

891
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Speaker 1: take some time because he really scared me. Um, he

892
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: really did. He was just he was so so incredible,

893
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: and not just on set, but the way it reads

894
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Speaker 1: on camera. Um Um, even when you watch it, he's

895
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Speaker 1: he can be terrifying. He's a very good actor and

896
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: he's not like that all in real life. Jasmine, this

897
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Speaker 1: was my This is the third time I've got a

898
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Speaker 1: chance to work with her, but the most intimately that

899
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Speaker 1: I've worked with her before. And it's hard sometimes to

900
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Speaker 1: not like fan fan out on somebody before. But you know,

901
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Speaker 1: I'm in these intense scenes with her and I'm thinking about, like, um,

902
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Speaker 1: Harlem Knights. She's this this phenomenal like powerhouse actor and

903
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Speaker 1: actually that role was meant for a man initially, That's

904
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Speaker 1: how it was written. Um. And they didn't change anything.

905
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: They just brought her into it and she she kills it.

906
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Speaker 1: She killed it. I loved I loved working with her

907
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Speaker 1: so any That's the thing is like any kind of

908
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Speaker 1: difficulty or whatever that I was having, um or or

909
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Speaker 1: the challenge that I was having playing the two characters,

910
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Speaker 1: once I got to set and I just worked with

911
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Speaker 1: all of these incredible actors that are in it. Um,

912
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Speaker 1: yeah you could, I could just play. We know. The

913
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Speaker 1: interesting thing about the whole reason I bring up there,

914
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Speaker 1: whether it's treach and other people were performing in this

915
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: particularly this wonderful movie, is that I felt your frustration. Okay,

916
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Speaker 1: it had credibility. I felt that when you felt they

917
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Speaker 1: weren't doing enough, I felt you had crossed the line

918
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Speaker 1: many times. But if you crossed the line many times,

919
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Speaker 1: and so that that that tells me good acting, good directing,

920
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Speaker 1: good good character development and overall the projects sold me

921
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Speaker 1: on the fact that you just wanted justice for your

922
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Speaker 1: sister and and also for her daughter, also for your daughter.

923
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Speaker 1: And it was a love story. I felt it was

924
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Speaker 1: a love story wrapped into this in a sea line,

925
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Speaker 1: a sea level storyline that I that in the end

926
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Speaker 1: it placed itself out and uh talk about that because

927
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Speaker 1: I felt that, you know, we kind of missed when

928
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Speaker 1: you get into these stories and a tipe of violence,

929
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: but it was a love story to me. In your

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Speaker 1: relationship with your ex, yeah, that was an interesting UM

931
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Speaker 1: part of this. My the main character, Jada, her ex husband.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have a very strange relationship. They they

933
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Speaker 1: certain they have a they still have a love for

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Speaker 1: each other, but their relationship didn't work out. And um,

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Speaker 1: over over the course of the story. You know, at first,

936
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Speaker 1: he's an antagonist to what she's trying to do. He's like,

937
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Speaker 1: you are not being a mother right now, and you're spiraling.

938
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Speaker 1: And I think at onet, well, I won't tell that part,

939
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Speaker 1: but um, they end up, you know, he ends up

940
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Speaker 1: really coming through. I think in a way that that

941
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Speaker 1: was probably missing in their relationship before. And I I

942
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Speaker 1: just I like that part of the story, that sort

943
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Speaker 1: of family part of the story, not with her husband,

944
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Speaker 1: with her daughter, with her niece Justice. You know, I

945
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: don't know, like the way we love. I like seeing

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Speaker 1: that black love black. I en George, seeing that I

947
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Speaker 1: enjoy He's a handsome guy, You're a very beautiful young

948
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Speaker 1: lady playing a role that the child who plays your

949
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: daughter is incredibly beautiful. It was just really that's what

950
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: I love about what I enjoyed seeing television nowadays. You know,

951
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: there's the diversity and the commercials and they acting and

952
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: their roles that I knew black people wouldn't be having

953
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: five years ago, and now being cast in and I

954
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: can enjoy myself watching these love stories. They're not They're

955
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Speaker 1: not a one off. They're not doing Black History Model

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00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: or not doing June doing June Team Celebration. I can

957
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Speaker 1: watch them anytime. This is this is a problem that

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Speaker 1: the most part I've ever had on the Christmas break

959
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: because I saw so many wonderful cast black lead casting

960
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: roles by blacks who would just being themselves. And then

961
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: to see you are wonderful talent and that's what that's

962
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: a Black excellence. I really teach and talk about to

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Speaker 1: my my listeners. Who are hbc U campuses and fortunate

964
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Speaker 1: to broadcast on eighteen hbc U campuses sixty nine stations nationwide.

965
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Speaker 1: But those eighteen HBCU campuses from from Howard to Clark

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Speaker 1: Atlantic University, spell Month to Texas Southern to Boone Cookman.

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Speaker 1: Fami you, so I have such a wonderful reach. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts when you talk about black excellence? As

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Speaker 1: we close out this interview, Tatiana you you you you

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Speaker 1: You started as a young person. You your your your,

971
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: your wife, your your mother. You are incredible actors who

972
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Speaker 1: have made this transition. You're educated, you get a degree.

973
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: What is black excellence. Black excellence to me is having

974
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Speaker 1: the courage to be being courageous enough two um to

975
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Speaker 1: dream your your most outlandish dreams and then not only

976
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Speaker 1: dream them, put to set out and manifest them and

977
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Speaker 1: make them real. And you know, oftentimes the really outlandish

978
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Speaker 1: dreams are the ones that affect your community, affect the world, um,

979
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: also affect your family. They're not just your own good fortune.

980
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: When you materialize them, when you're able to make them

981
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: come true, they they bubble over and they, um, you know,

982
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: change the world around you. My goodness, she's a track star,

983
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: she's a singer, she's an actress, she was a herdle.

984
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you something. We all see that moment, but

985
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Speaker 1: the pause play it back. It is actually her toping

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Speaker 1: on athlete, brilliantly acting when you didn't what you didn't

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Speaker 1: see was was was was the hotel I needed after

988
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: don't don't don't let I understand that because I'm telling something.

989
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: When she leaped that John Hayes, I'm telling it's not

990
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: a low hedge stay hedge. I just went. I'll tell

991
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: you something. It was one of the great moments of

992
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: me watching television and films. To watch a brilliant actress.

993
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: Just just do what she has to do to just

994
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: sell her character and uh. She plays two characters in

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: this series, Jada and Kayla in the wonderfully Lifetime original

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00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: movie Vanished Searching for My Sister, which premieres January twenty

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Speaker 1: two pm seven Central. Thank you to Don for taking

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: the time to talk to my fan base talk to me.

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Speaker 1: What a great interview. I really appreciate you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate you too, and much love to

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Speaker 1: everybody out there. But stay safe and keep your head

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Speaker 1: up doing all this. You know you got a home

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Speaker 1: out here. Sean McDonald Money Making Conversation, any project you

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Speaker 1: do with this charity solo, whatever, we're get over to

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Speaker 1: the home over here, okay, and I appreciate it. Yes, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Bye bye, We talked soon. Bye bye. You've

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Speaker 1: been listening to Money Making Conversations with Rashan McDonald. Please

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Speaker 1: join us next week and always remember leading with your gifts.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations is a presentation of thirty fifteen Media Incorporated.

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Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute

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Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi. Sean McDonald for money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass with your daily minute of inspiration. Former

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Speaker 1: guest Nick Canna talked about investing in himself. I had

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Speaker 1: to invest my own money against my agent and my managers.

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Speaker 1: Everybody that don't do it is not gonna make sense.

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Speaker 1: And what is it? Improv hitop comedy show? Right? And

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Speaker 1: so I've rented out a comedy club in l A.

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Speaker 1: Got all my friends together, you know, people that nobody

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Speaker 1: these guys are multimillionaires today. Um again and then you know,

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