1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: All right, here we are. It's the season's end. We're done. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Seasons over for the New Orleans Saints. But off the 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: edge of the podcast, me and your host Camdere we're 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna still gonna be here. We're gonna talk a little 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: bit of football. We're gonna talk through the playoffsn't we 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot, and we're gonna talk about how 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: how how much promise we showed in the back third 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: of our season, A lot of wins, a lot of upsets. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Finished the season six and gosh eleven. That sucks because 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: we have such a good locker room. We've got so 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: many good teammates of mine. I've been impressed with so 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: many people, Chase Young, Chris o'lave uh and a guy 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: who I wanting to bring up, a man who had 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: a stint with Oregon Ducks, with stint with Texas Tech 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: finished in Louisville, second round draft pick for the New 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. A huge reason of how he sort of 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: went on a four game win streak late in the 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: season with perfect in November, could have gone perfect in December. 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: We were close, but a channel Arizona kid, you know. 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Via via Arizona Ad we we're brethren. Now he went 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: to the wrong school, I think. But that's that's neither 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: here nor there. I'm talking about my guy shot. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go, man, I want to. I appreciate the intro, 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: but we might have to we might have to edit 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: in a few a few things there. The right school 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: on Arizona Avenue, for sure, and we were undefeated in December, 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: lost in January, unfortunately. 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: That's what it was, lost in January. Gosh, dang started off. 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: That's only all the way up, all the ways. 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Up, only ways up. I appreciate you hopping on, bro, 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I know you busy me. 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I just seen you at the basketball game with the 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Lakers and I'm sitting on you know, I'm sitting on 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: the floor and they showed a picture of you and 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: and our owner, Missus Benson. I said, oh, that boy 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and the owners. 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the I'm in the rafters, bro, I was. 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: I was on top of man. It wasn't one time crazy? 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Is that not crazy? Just to watch forty one year 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: old Lebron James go for a windmill. 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: Dude, I was just watching him the whole time, like 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: sprint back and forth in the amount of like jump 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: cut bursts, and I'm like, dang, you know, I'd be 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: I'd be gashed right now. So, I mean that was 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: pretty cool. That was the first time I was able 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: to to watch those guys, especially the Lakers. But I 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: feel like the Pells are actually playing really well. We 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: just kind of hadn't been able to finish it. But 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: I feel like they're they're coming together too. 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think that you know, we got we got 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: a nice little starting lineup. We got some great rotating, 52 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: rotating pieces. I don't know why we're not any more games, 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's sort of like how we started. 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: He's gotta find some sort of confidence. So once you 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: get confidence and start rolling, you know, how did you 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: end up in Hamilton High? You know, like. 57 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Air you end up? That was I think zoning was 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: still I mean, yeah, it stopped after maybe a couple 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: of years, but I was zoned for Basha, But I 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: ended up going to Hamilton really because of baseball and 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: football too. It was kind of multiple factors, but it 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: was kind of more of a baseball school and I 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: played that all the way up until my senior year, 64 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: and I mean it was just it was. Yeah, it 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: was just the best sports school in the state, especially 66 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: on Chandler Arizona app and on Arizona Avenue. But yeah, 67 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: I think it was really because of that and then 68 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: a bunch of my friends. So it kind of just 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: worked out, you know, that way going to Hamilton, and 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: I was obviously super thankful I did it. Was it 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: was a lot of fun just I mean, you know, 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: going to a big public high school. You got all 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: your friends there, you got everybody kind of this around you. 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: So it helped me out so much just from a 75 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: competition standpoint too. 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I try to tell people I was they brought. 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I think it was like when I was at Chairma High. 78 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: I think we had like forty eight hundred kids in 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: the school, forty five hundred kids. We were huge. Yeah, 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and it's probably bigger now. 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's probably I think it was hard 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 2: as forty one or forty two at the time. Yeah, 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: you seen kids, you never seen foreign graduation. But like 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: it's just the influx of just talent though. You got 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of people coming in, a bunch of smart kids, 86 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: you got everybody. So yeah, I think it's like going 87 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: to a big public high school was the best. I 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: mean it's the best thing because you get to just 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: be around everybody. You're you're kind of throwing to the wolves. 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: Is like sink or swim man, go go make friends. 91 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean think about downtown Chandler right that, you know, 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: right there's steakhouses, there's nice walking spots. You know, you 93 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: can get breakfast or whatever. My Downtown Chandler experience was 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: nothing like yours. Like that, there's a there's a golf 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: cart era for you know, like we didn't have that. 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, Socalos was still there, there was Jack in 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: the Box. The whole downtown Movie. 98 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Theater was not a bunch of good a bunch of 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: good Mexican spots though I guarantee that was that was 100 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: still still there. But yeah, I mean that was kind 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: of transitioning. Whenever I was there, it was still a 102 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: little bit, you know, Chandler was kind of the down 103 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: downtown area was still kind of like the down end. 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: But I mean, i mean, you know, right now, it's 105 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: it's pretty nice. 106 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everything. Bro. When I went to high school, 107 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: literally there was a ton of smaller houses that was 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: getting decimated. It was like we used to call the 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: body like it was just all all straight rows of 110 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: houses that we ended up taking over and then making 111 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: super nice once I left and I said, dang, yeah, 112 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: got good. Now, Okay, we love love to see it. 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: So it's kind of it's kind of popping up all over. 114 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, especially Chandler in general, but the entire valley. 115 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Is Scottsdale is absurd. You used to, like everybody used 116 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: to want to like dip into Scottsdale. Now people are 117 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: just coming from everywhere. Ye l a l a. People 118 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: are coming in with cash see cash by Seattle, just 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: messing up a whole Like. 120 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, it used to be a civilized state. Now 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: just a bunch of Californians. 122 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: But a whole bunch of Californians kind of vegan and 123 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: vegan my spot up. I think, Uh, what you do? 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: What took you to Oregon? How did you get to 125 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: Oregon originally from you know, from. 126 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so my mom was originally from there, and I 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: had some family there actually oddly enough in Eugene and 128 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: like Salem area, so there was a bit of a connection. 129 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: But I didn't get offers till kind of later in 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: my career because that was kind of the influx. I 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: was on the first junior starter in my like school's 132 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: history since ninety seven or something, and it's when you 133 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: were in like your fourth year in the league, I 134 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: think at that point. And I don't remember when that 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: was for you, but it was a long time and 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: Oregon kind of came came on and at the time, 137 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert was playing and is maybe considering leaving or staying, 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: so it was kind of a good opportunity to go 139 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: either going there and learn grow and then maybe compete 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: for the job. And he ended up staying in both 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: those years. And it was pretty sweet kind of coming 142 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: in and you off the bat. I mean, I was 143 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: like six four, one hundred and eighty five pounds. I 144 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: was like stick thin, just the absolute, like fricking tool, 145 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: thinking you're the best thing ever, as everyone does coming 146 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: out of high school. And getting next to her and 147 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: he's like six six two forty I'm like, yeah, I 148 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: gotta get a lot better and yeah, and he's ripping 149 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: like forty yard hole shots and just all I mean, 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: it was. It was awesome. But obviously I met my 151 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: wife there her family, so it was it was kind 152 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: of a really cool, kind of full circle moment met 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: like all my closest friends are still there, so I 154 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: was happy I went, and then you know, COVID hit 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: and then the journey continues through through all that Attech 156 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: and Louisville and with a few injuries. 157 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: No doubt. So do you so with the National Championship 158 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: coming up? What next week? We got SEMIS tomorrow Thursday? Yeah, 159 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: Semis Thursday. Yeah? You do you root for organ still? 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 161 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 162 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the recent game, the Oregon Tech one 163 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: was was tough because it's I had people, I had 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: people on both sides and I was like, ah this yeah, 165 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Like everyone's asking me. I'm like, dude, I don't know 166 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: if I can answer right now, because then either one 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: side is gonna you know. 168 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Kill you. 169 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. All the support staff. I actually was just 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: in Eugene recently, all the trainers, a lot of the 171 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: strength coaches, like all those people are still the same, 172 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: and I mean they're the best, so kind of being 173 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: able to actually go train there for a little bit 174 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: do some rehab, so I was. I was definitely rooting 175 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: for them. A couple of my former roommates, Ryan walk 176 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: shout out him. He's coaching for the team. He's coaching 177 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: the old line and he's got those those boys dialed. 178 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: So I just kind of happy to they obviously wanted 179 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: on a big victory. But at Tech too, I got 180 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: some of my former teammates, so it was kind of 181 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: a kind of an interesting deal. But I hope they 182 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: want it now. I think I get their their lick 183 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: back against Indiana, right, you know former. 184 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Cal quarterback and Mendoz over there. 185 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you rooting for them boys? Or is 186 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: it you know. 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: I've got I got an interest because it's there, But 188 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: I'm not really split orgon my my d line coach 189 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: when I was at Cal has now been named are 190 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: now the defensive coordinator over to Oregon toash lupoys now 191 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: been named the Cal he's your head coach. So you know, 192 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: bring bring home an accolades. You need big big dog 193 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: and all recruits. Hey, come on, big fella, come on 194 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: Cal Go Bears love that. Yeah, you know, it's always 195 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: a great connection. I think about this though. You finish, 196 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: you finish the Louisville you come to. You come to 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints training camp. You know, rather starts 198 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: you get a chance you turn up from there. Uh. 199 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: Now at the end of the year, I can finally ask, 200 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: do you understand that that the Atlanta Falcons New Orleans 201 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Saints rival you just yet? Like you yet? 202 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: It's yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's probably the 203 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: only I'm glad, you know, I'm glad we finished strong, 204 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: but we we had this. I got this, this bad 205 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: taste in my mouth, especially lose to those guys with 206 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: kind of our team. And but yeah, I see I'm 207 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: starting to rub starting to rub off on me. Your 208 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: your hatred for him. 209 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: I got a lot of hate for him. 210 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot. I love it. I love it. 211 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna it's just fuel the fire. And 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: I think, you know, we we're gonna kind of shore 213 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: up this offseason, get the right pieces, get everybody you know, 214 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: having that sense of urgency, and we're gonna hit the 215 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: ground running. 216 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: No, we all like I'm I'm I'm still just watching Tiger. 217 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: I saw we just signed a wide receiver from the 218 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: CFL that's like six five, I think, yeah, big big 219 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: man blasters coming through a big fellow. Yeah, Chris o'live 220 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: say up and just keep on adding these numbers. We 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: get Bud, we get above means back next year, you know, 222 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: like wide receive room. 223 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: Looks different traded for him. I mean there's a lot 224 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 2: of a lot of a lot of great pieces that 225 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: I felt like kind of people were obviously understandably hadn't 226 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: played a little bit, but just kind of sleeping on 227 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: where they're gonna be great additions. And then you got 228 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: obviously the draft, free agency stuff like that, where who 229 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: knows men? I mean, shoot my money. This time last year, man, 230 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: I was on anybody's radar, you know. I mean had 231 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: to kind of go through the whole process and wake 232 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: some people up, and got to turn on the tape 233 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: and and go through the Senior Bowl, and like, who 234 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: knows who might kind of flash in four months, you know, 235 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: and we might be picking somebody and and some great 236 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: things could happen. 237 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's I need great things to happen. Who come 238 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: on year sixteen? Yeah? Yeah, a little he got that 239 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: got that juice? Man? 240 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: You still? I mean, how about ten and a half sacks? 241 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: I was coming here drafted. I was like, man, this 242 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: is gonna be freaking sweet playing with Cam. I've been 243 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: looking up that. I'm like, he's probably just like that 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: old dog that's just on his way out. 245 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: No, he's bawling. Man, he's man, he's with you or. 246 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: For I'm like, dude, this is this is actually awesome, 247 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: and I mean it's I appreciate all the stuff that 248 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: you put in Sorcifrice because it's a I mean, it's 249 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: a big influence on me. How you take care of 250 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: your body, how you prepare, how you motivate guys. So 251 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: I hopefully, hopefully, you know, hopefully you are back with 252 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: us again. I know you you know, I know if 253 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: you can you will. 254 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Be absolutely yeah, we'll see, we'll see time of tel 255 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: the first time I've never been on the contractor this 256 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: is just weird. You know, when does my face stop 257 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: working on the facial recognition. 258 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: Run? Is Jay Roman gonna start blocking the gatee? 259 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Or you like, hey, Cam, that first spot next to 260 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: the door and that's no longer your spot, move on. 261 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if that will ever happen to be, 262 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: to be honest, you could, you could, you could go 263 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: to you can go the Buccaneers and they'd probably be 264 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: like all right, yeah, I mean you can come grab 265 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: your stuff. 266 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: This is this is a surprising animosity now between the 267 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and the Saints. These games have gotten chippier. I'm 268 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: not even sure win. But you know, the Buccaneers swear 269 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: we have a rivalry going on. 270 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: Oh good, yeah good. I think that's that's a good thing. 271 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: We want to. I mean, we should have a rivalry 272 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: with every team that we play, and especially. 273 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Too much hate. I can't hate everybody. 274 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: Gotta have that, gotta have that hate in your heart. Man, 275 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: start to turning on some, I mean, especially especially those guys. 276 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they got a good squad that I mean, shoot, 277 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: we were one game away from them being in the playoffs, 278 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: and I think I think you got it. You got 279 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: to take it to them. Man, I think that's that's 280 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: a that's a fun part I've been learning. It's just 281 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: you got so many good, so many good teams in 282 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: the NFL in general. But I mean our division, I 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: know it was kind of a down year record wise, 284 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: but I feel like we kind of come on strong. 285 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: As absolutely, I mean swept swept the team that won 286 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: the division. 287 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's a I don't see that every 288 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: day for sure, but right little bit, I'm actually sick. 289 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I I know there's a lot of factors 290 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: that go into everything, but man, I know I know. 291 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: I think it all happens for a reason. 292 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: Though, absolutely, I mean, you got you gotta learn. You know, 293 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: there's got to be a learning curve somewhere. Hopefully, hopefully 294 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: couple of years from now, we'll be like, man, remember 295 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: when Saint's just won six games and now look at us, 296 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: hopefully back in the time of the division. You get 297 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: the things that you got to work for because you 298 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: never know such a that's why it sucks, because it's 299 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: such a great locker room this year. 300 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: No, I know. I mean that's that's kind of an 301 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: interesting for me because I feel like everybody's been so 302 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: close and our record hasn't reflected it. But I think 303 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: it's cool kind of hear from you. It's like, oh man, 304 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: this is isn't normal. I know, it's kind of hasn't 305 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: been what we wanted, but I think it's a formula 306 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: for success. When you got people buying in, you got 307 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: everybody's belief, you got everybody hanging out outside of the 308 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: facility doing things like that's what that's what matters, No doubts. 309 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think I even made two 310 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: Office of Line dinners this year. I said, No, I 311 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: was like, man, I just want to be around the gap. Yeah, 312 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: he's a caesar. He's there, McCoy. You know you you 313 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: guys show up, tight ends, show up. I'm like, this 314 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: is low key, okay. 315 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you pulled up. You pulled up to why dinner 316 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: as well? That was That was That was sick. 317 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: That was I mean, for you know, they said rookie dinner. 318 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm sure I'm coming. Let's say, yeah, tacos. 319 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm double down. 320 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, free, free food. Absolutely, And I mean that's the 321 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: type of stuff you want. I mean, like I want 322 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: to do that forever. Just have like an open invite 323 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: to everyone to come, like pull up, like we're all 324 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: We're all kicking it, no doubt. And I think it 325 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: starts starts with starts with you, starts with the leaders. 326 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely. What what did it feel like taking over starting 327 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: job week nine? Like, how how was it? 328 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you're clearly prepared, but no, I mean that 329 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: was short answer. It didn't feel any different, But that 330 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: was because of how hard it was to start. Like 331 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: I was kind of being able to talk to to 332 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: Drew Brees and talk and like the coaches did a 333 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: great job, but I was like super intentional about making 334 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: my preparation and the process and shoot going against you 335 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: and every every single day and practice on scout team, 336 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: like I wanted to make that like as game like 337 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: and as real as if I was playing. And there 338 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: was a lot of disappointing moments whenever you're obviously not 339 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: playing and we lose some games, and but kind of 340 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: sticking to that that way, when I just got my 341 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: opportunity in the game, you know, I wasn't gonna flinch 342 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: and just go I mean that kind of helped me 343 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: out throughout my entire career in college as well. Just 344 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: go out there and just rip it. You know, you 345 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: got you got nothing to lose. That was my mindset, 346 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: Like obviously everybody has something to lose, you know, you're 347 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: in the NFL. There's a lot at stake. But my 348 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: mindset was like, I'm not even supposed to be here, 349 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: you know, I'm how many times got injured or kind 350 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: of counted out or hated on, Like, might as well 351 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: just go have fun with it. You got nothing to lose, 352 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: and you often end up playing better that way anyway. 353 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: So it you know, it was a long kind of journey, 354 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: but it was it helped me out so much whenever 355 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: you got it because as you know, you've been playing 356 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: every single game in your career and you gotta stay ready. 357 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: So you don't have you don't have to get ready. 358 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you took over with Storm, so and so 359 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I feel like people underestimated your athletic ability because like you, 360 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: you take off cat like you really roll and turn 361 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: corners on people. 362 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, it helps with a little bit 363 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: left melanin in my skin. But I mean got I got, 364 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: I got. 365 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit of honey. Yeah. 366 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: Uh, but you got only gotta pull it, pull it 367 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: out every now and again. And you know I want 368 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: to I want to stand in there and rip it 369 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: cond disperse it to the playmakers, people who get paid 370 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: to to really carry the ball. But you at at 371 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: this level, you got guys like yourself like you can't 372 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: stay there forever. You gotta change the pocket. You gotta 373 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: get out of there and make them play sometimes. And 374 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: I think that's where the league is kind of going. 375 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: And and a lot of this is success QB's are 376 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: having is is using their legs. 377 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Bro. I still, you know what, explain to me this? 378 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Because since I got you in here, roll uh, last 379 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: game Atlanta Falcons. You you almost get set in the 380 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: pocket going into end zone through a dot across the 381 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: body to Kevin Austin for what should have been a touchdown. 382 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: And I'm still confused on what the what. I didn't 383 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: even what they call it. They called OPI like I was, 384 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: I saw a ref do something. I said, what the 385 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: what the flying forty seven? I said, what the hell 386 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: is going on? This is the then and then I 387 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: started like I went the opposite west. So it's always 388 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: it's always us at this house. 389 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, it was. It wasn't even a 390 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: reb content. Like there's plays, you know in the offenses 391 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: designing the red zone to where if you're within that 392 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: one yard and you can block the guy or you 393 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: can pick them and maybe he backs up the two 394 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: yards and there's kind of stuff that happens and you're like, ah, 395 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: we tried to get away with it, or and we 396 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: did it, we got called and it's like, you know, shoot, 397 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: but like that one, like you're just trying to like 398 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: just get people moving and running, and it was like 399 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: a just a it was a car crash. People just 400 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: kind of accidentally ran in into each other and I 401 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: think the DV kind of like, you know, fell like 402 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: into the stands or something. Then it was just like, 403 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. I didn't even know what happened. I 404 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: just remember getting popped by to the d lineman and 405 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: you stepped into it, Bro and just kind of looked 406 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: at him, and I was like, let's go. And yeah, 407 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: obviously a crucial play, but you know it kind of 408 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: it happens. It's part of the game. You know, there's 409 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: a discretion element to it. But at that point mid 410 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: play kind of randomness of that, you know, we weren't 411 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: trying to pick anybody. 412 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: Right man, that it was like a collapse play. You 413 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: stepped up, are you shrugged off a sack? Knowinger was 414 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: coming down the gullet, you know, like you know what 415 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: fireball hum. Yeah. But I was like, how where does that? 416 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? That growing and comfort level? 417 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: You know? What was that like with each start or 418 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: being able to stand in the pocket, that gunslinger mentality. 419 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm lucky I've never had to see somebody like coming 420 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: down the alley straight into a shoulder or whatever. It is. 421 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: The worst thing I get is like a motioning wide 422 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: receiver chip or motion tight end chip. 423 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just bound. Yeah, you know, I think it's 424 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: a it's kind of the just to grow through it. 425 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: You know, I think, like you said in training camp, 426 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: you know that's a play we run every single you know, 427 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: almost every single practice started from training camp on. And 428 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: you know, there was a rep where I kind of 429 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: scrambled around and had a bad throat or something like 430 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: that threw it away, and like, you know, obviously the 431 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: notion that you got a five man russ there trying 432 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 2: to get bigs on big and create one on one. 433 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: So there's gonna be you're not hot, but you're warm. 434 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: You gotta be able to step up, create some plays 435 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: and instead of escaping, a lot of guys people want 436 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: to back up, you know, take two hands off, take 437 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: one hand off the ball and go willy nilly. And 438 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: I think just the continual growth through I mean having 439 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: that playing scouteing, having you freaking coming off your edge 440 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: and I got to escape and step up, and it 441 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: was kind of a full circle moment to where the 442 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: last play and it was all those factors And yeah, 443 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: I mean whenever you you're staring down the staring down 444 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: the gun, you just gotta take you gotta take it. Yeah, 445 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's always a better feeling you make 446 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: the throw and you get popped rather than you know, 447 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: maybe you try and shy away from it and you 448 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: miss it. Or I think it's kind of that same notion, 449 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: like you know you're gonna get shipped. You know you 450 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: got this one on one. Yeah, you gotta part of 451 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: the part of the job description. 452 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, those Scout Scout team reps that you talked about. 453 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: I mean, how important is that? Is the value in 454 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: there in the training camp or is it more like 455 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: actual once we get down to practice, once you start 456 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: game planning and you're you know, we're downing the blitz. 457 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Is it so you're seeing actual, you know, perfunctory defenses 458 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: more so than just a bland Hey, everybody gets the 459 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: same stuff. 460 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think it's both. Because you got it, 461 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna see both in the flow of a game. 462 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: But like training camp, the struggle is, you know, we're 463 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: both going through installs and you know, today you guys 464 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: might install Cover six and you're gonna see splits. Safety 465 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: might install you know, Cover nine, and or you might 466 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: have some designer blitzes and we're installing I don't know 467 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: a couple of screen paths or we're installing based stuff too, 468 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: so you're trying to make that play look good. But 469 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: most often times and not it's not like you guys 470 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: are putting in something that's not great either, unless you 471 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: know you're just getting manned and you're still learning the language. 472 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: So I think for me it was just kind of 473 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: growing learning all those things, mastering the offense, and then 474 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: now you get to kind of season and scout team. 475 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Now you're just playing football and now you're just reacting, 476 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: and now you kind of bridge that with the install 477 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: of a game plan element and then you can kind 478 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: of just fly from there. So and I think that 479 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: was the coolest part with being able to kind of 480 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: get full speed reps at all, that when now you 481 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: got the offense down, now you can kind of keep 482 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: going and there's no like unknowness. 483 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, for sure, I think I've said it 484 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: in my mind the last six years. I said, I 485 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: don't know training gemping's worth it when I look at it, 486 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: just like the volume of plays that you have and 487 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: like it's always so bro give me, like I don't 488 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: need to know three hundred plays going into practice. Give 489 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: me to game week where we have boom. 490 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: This is our call feet yeah give me that was 491 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: where you I don't know if you remember, just my 492 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: performance is in the scrimmages or the preseason games. 493 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: And you know, I feel like that was when I 494 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: was playing my best because we got our we got 495 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: our plays. You know that was you know at the 496 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: time we didn't have our full offense. But this is 497 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: our place, is our script and now we're just calling 498 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: it and you're just playing against defenses. You're just playing 499 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: rather than you know, the scripted periods and stuff like that. 500 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: Where I totally agree. You got a bunch of different things, 501 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: and it's part of it. You got to get the reps. 502 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: You got to build the team, the team chemistry over time, 503 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: you got to build the repertoire of the plays. But 504 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: now I think you're right though, I think, I mean, 505 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: you know it better anybody else. Over time, like there's 506 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: an element of like let's just let's. 507 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Get my bullets, but live bullets like that. That's when 508 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: it matters. I say, O, people can go undefeated in 509 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: preseason or lose all their games in preseason. Don't hold 510 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: no way, no what we're bringing to the table week 511 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: one does not mean anything for preseason at all, Like 512 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: that's just trying to figure out the roster spots or 513 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: trying to get familiar with your offensive defense, like getting. 514 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: Again getting reps in for young guys or stuff like 515 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: that where you can kind of build a you know, 516 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: a film catalog. And and for first a young guy 517 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: like me, it was it was beneficial to to kind 518 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: of just play a little bit. But like you said, 519 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: there's not there's not not much of a real element, 520 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: you know, especially when you're you're coming in and but 521 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: it helped me out so much. First game, You're going 522 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: against you know, Vidavea and Antoine Winfield and you know, 523 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: all these guys, and you got the Rams and actually 524 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: the Panthers and and these really high level defenses. And 525 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: that was the best thing for me to just kind 526 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: of just go throw thrown into the fire and go operate. 527 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely think think about that throwing from the fire. Our monoker. 528 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: What our mantra this year was tough together enjoy Kellen moorees. 529 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, for guys, just go. 530 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: For does he actually get mad? I haven't? Does he like, 531 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: because in our interactions he's just so level headed, cool, 532 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, man, this is what like this, and 533 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate it and at the same time, like I 534 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: needed a mother for somebody. 535 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I remember him getting mad in training camp 536 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: for during like walkthroughs, and I think maybe a cuss word, 537 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: slipt out and I was like, oh my god. Well, 538 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: it's like it's like it's kind of like a disappointed 539 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: it's almost worse. Like he's like gets disappointed and it's 540 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: like as a you know, you're to your dad, like 541 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: your dad gets disappointed in you or your grandpa and 542 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: you're just like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I yeah, right, 543 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: rather than like somebody I don't know, but there's kind 544 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: of a tongue in cheek ole in the but like 545 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: short answer is he's the same dude. Like like you said, 546 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: like he's the same dude. He's very analytical, very smart. Yeah, 547 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: he'll get upset and he'll get annoyed, he'll get disappointed, 548 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: but like he's not that's not who he is. He's 549 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: not he's not an mf or and and that's that's fine, 550 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: you don't I think as long as he's the same 551 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: guy every day, and that's what why you know, I 552 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: respect him. 553 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this this coaching staff Kellen Staley, Uh, 554 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: you know my guy Jay Rodgers, my position coach Jay Rodgers. 555 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: This is the most texting savvy group I've ever been 556 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: a part of. Like they text everything like hey, I 557 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: was thinking about this as this or hey, like what 558 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: do you think about you know this blitz or what 559 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: is Yeah, I'm like, bro, this open line of communication 560 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: I've heard like you know in my mind it's like 561 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: hey coach, you know I need to come talk to 562 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: you or hey Kim, you know, come talk to me 563 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: up top or something like that. They just like text 564 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: it out immediately like random thoughts. Middle of the day. 565 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: Jay Rodgers will like shoot us a text like hey guys, 566 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this clip, and he 567 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: just like sends it mm hmm. I'll say, you know, 568 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: I never had a coach like this. 569 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's kind of real. I mean that's 570 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: kind of how like I mean, your friends, your your 571 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: your mentors communicate like hey, this is what I'm thinking. 572 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: Like that's how call and I text a bunch like hey, 573 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: this is what we're thinking with this week? Resist covers 574 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: or like what do you like this week? Just popping 575 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: it and it just kind of stirs these this dialogue 576 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: and these ideas that get going. And then because that's 577 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: how it is on game day, you know, like hey, 578 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: what are you seeing here? Or I'm thinking this play call? 579 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: And and I think he's really elite at that, and 580 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: like that's cool to hear from the defensive coaches as well, 581 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: just having that open communication and because it is a 582 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: collaborative effort, like we do well, they do well, you 583 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like we were trying to be here. 584 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: So I don't think there needs to be like a 585 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: I mean, there is a hierarchy for sure, but like 586 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't need to be like a detriment like archy. Yeah, 587 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: there is a hierarchy, but like there doesn't need to 588 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: be like I'm talking down to you, you know, like, hey, 589 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: we're trying. Let's let's let's all be great. 590 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm exactly that. That's what I said that that 591 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: tough Together Joy I said, hell yeah, I said, Monday 592 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: through Saturday, I'm with it. Tough together Joy. Somewhere in 593 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: the season you heard me ran ale off in the 594 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: locker room. We were down. He's like Kellen was like, hey, 595 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: it's tough together, Joy, I said, fuck that that joy 596 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: ship right now. I was like I need I was, 597 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: I was like, I got pissing vinegar for you. I 598 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: was like, with the tough, I'm with it together. Everything 599 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: we do gotta be that way. But I need I 600 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: don't need a smile to be out here. We're down. 601 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: We got to swing our way back in and then 602 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: of course, you know, we we go out there and 603 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: whatever the game was when loser draw, like we we 604 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: came close or succeeded expectation. The craziest stat is like 605 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: we never gave back a lead once we got it. 606 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: You know, if we captured the lead, we never gave 607 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: you back. So yeah, man, I said, all we need 608 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: to do is is get up by one. If we 609 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: can get up by one, we won. 610 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's good. That's a good thing. 611 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Man. 612 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: You gotta I mean, we had a couple of comebacks too. 613 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: We got I think else we got to figure out 614 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: a way to start faster. I don't know what. I 615 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: don't know what it looks like, but coming out figuring 616 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 2: out a way to take take them out there. How, 617 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 2: I mean, we had a oh you got I'm more 618 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: of a question for you. I don't know if we 619 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: gotta start later, we gotta drink some more coffee in 620 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: the morning. 621 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Or we gotta I don't drink coffee. 622 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: Your coffee, you're just I mean whatever. I don't know. 623 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm just saying whatever it tasts. Maybe you gotta start 624 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: fucking drinking coffee cans. 625 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: That's what I say. May i'mnna Get'm gonna get the 626 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: little spresso machine. I know, I know the uh the 627 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: tight ends of the quarterback room probably got one those 628 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: little fancy I'm gonna go get me one of them Froppe's. 629 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Is that the ice joint. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 630 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: start coffee next year. You're sixteen coffee coming. 631 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Just just just start changing it now. You gotta go 632 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: through your process. I'll, i'll, I'll handle the. 633 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: I think oh man, I think that. Yeah. I think 634 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: that that start fast works both ways, because it'll be 635 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: like some leaky covers the defensive do and we'll let 636 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: up like three or seven points at first drive near 637 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: every time. I'm like bro, and then pitch a hell 638 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: of a game. You know, like if we could just 639 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: eliminate that or you know, we have those random pilties 640 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: those first like six games it was like we were 641 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: one of the most penalized teams in the league. 642 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was likewise, I think on offense, 643 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: there was there's too many so I that was a story. 644 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: There's too many times where you're coming in like, hey 645 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: this is and we shorted up a little bit, but 646 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: just just Caden like Caden stuff, jumping off sides, you know, penalties. 647 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: I think that's probably a definitely an area of emphasis 648 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: going to this offseason, starting in OTAs like hey, we're 649 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: like the standard set, like we we know what what 650 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: it looks like. We can't can't take anything less. 651 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: No doubt. Uh, this offseason looking forward to anything I heard. 652 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: I heard you you're you're staying here. This is this offseason. 653 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: I'll be here for sure. I got I got baby 654 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: boy on the way, so we're staying in New Orleans, 655 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: and uh, I'm excited though it's kind of I mean, 656 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: it's been a while, but for you since the rookie season, 657 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: but rookie year obviously there's a lot of a lot 658 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: of go, go go, so it's kind of finally being 659 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: able to kind of relax a little bit, and you know, 660 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: we got you know, I mean, my thing is is 661 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: like I got drafted here. We're living here now. It's 662 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: kind of a new home element. You know, I'm why 663 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 2: not kind of be around the community, around everybody. And 664 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: you know, my wife, Jordan, she's been she's been great 665 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: this whole year. So we're kind of excited. Just kind 666 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: of take a deep breath and you know, hopefully do 667 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: some Marty grass stuff and then and then kind of 668 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: hit the ground run again. This is actually a great question. 669 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Do you have any drivable beach just destinations that would 670 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: be great? Yeah, I go a great staycation weekend that 671 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: we can go before for the baby. 672 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Dustin. It's like a couple hour drive. Somebody's 673 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna tell you Orange Beach, no and handle. Yeah, Destin 674 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: is beautiful. 675 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: You got to you got like a vacation home that 676 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: I can, like you just slid or something. 677 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: Well, I might have a guy, you know, a little 678 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: loud okay in the thirty A area, a little really 679 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: whatever that is Rosewater Rose something. Yeah, guy, you know, 680 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: I gotta I got a guy for a lot of things. Man, 681 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: have a guy. Let's go my connects to your connects. 682 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: But appreciate you for for Jordan off the edge, Bro 683 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I know you know, I've taken a little of your 684 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: time where you could be spending your time with you 685 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: with Jordan. I love that we complete you know, you 686 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: guys complete me. You know I'm Cameron, you're Jordan's and. 687 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: The dope first names many. 688 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: That's my entire name though, Like that's why I no U. 689 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm Cameron Tyler Jordan. You guys are ty Tyler and 690 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: I forgot dude, Yes, that's what I'm saying. 691 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: Jordan his middle name is Tyler. And yeah, obviously last 692 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: king Jordan. You got the Jordan brand. She's been rocking 693 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: Jordan brand forever. Yeah, that's that's actually epic. I forgot 694 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: about that, man. I appreciate you have me on. It's 695 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: a it's actually an honor. 696 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: Man. 697 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: I obviously look out to you and hope, hope we're 698 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: rocking it again. 699 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: But absolutely, yeah, you QB for years to come. Bro, hopefully, 700 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: hopefully we bring this. This is a hardship to this hardware, 701 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: to the city. That's the ultimate goal. Been hunting that 702 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: thing for fifteen years, you know what's sixteen and seventeen. 703 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: We'll find it. We gotta find it. But appreciate you, brother, 704 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: uh and like I said, I hit you up well 705 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: before I believe we'll have to go to dinner. Love 706 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: b H. Shout out to the listeners, thank you for 707 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: everybody listening to the viewers. Let uh let anywhere you 708 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: find your podcast. I heeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, all 709 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: podcast platforms, and of course the NFL's YouTube page. This 710 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: is off the edge with your host Cam Jordan and 711 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: my guys how they shun. You're getting shussed to not