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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August fourteenth. This is check Wars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by

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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. JP Shadwick with you from the Hundai Studios.

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Speaker 1: senior writer Pete Frisco. Of course, we'll get their thoughts

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Speaker 1: of preseason week one, the Jaguars winning Dallas over the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Saturday, a preview of practice this week. Practice we're

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Speaker 1: talking about practice Wednesday Thursday against the Lions before the

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Speaker 1: preseason Week two game in Detroit at Ford Field. We're

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Speaker 1: keeping it real as we always do, and fanatics fan

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Speaker 1: questions are coming in hot and heavy today on X

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Speaker 1: posts on X Tony and Pete coming up shortly. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear from Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson today reviewing the

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Speaker 1: performance of the first team offense.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously the one throw slipped out of his

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Speaker 3: hand and all that, but you know it, I thought

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Speaker 3: the way he rebounded and you know, threw a nice

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Speaker 3: touchdown pass obviously the Christian and then the two point

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Speaker 3: conversion to say, I thought were great ways for our

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Speaker 3: offense and for Trevor to to finish their night.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game discussed the performance also

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Speaker 1: an interception, early bounce back though with a touchdown, and

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Speaker 1: overall a pretty good feeling at the end.

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Speaker 4: Besides that one throw, thought it was pretty clean. You know,

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Speaker 4: from an offensive perspective, some things need to work on.

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Speaker 4: We had a three and out on their second drive

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Speaker 4: as well. That wasn't great. So starting at a little faster,

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Speaker 4: can't turn the ball over, you know, put our defense

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Speaker 4: in that situation. But I think we know that just

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Speaker 4: just bad throw by me. So you know, we'll watch

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Speaker 4: the table. We'll get better, and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: I think we're getting better every day and I've seen

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Speaker 4: it through training camp and just continue to do that.

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Speaker 1: Jags offense fortunate they threw that interception on the second

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Speaker 1: play of the opening drive and then had a three

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Speaker 1: and out. The ensuing punt return fumbled recovered by the

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Speaker 1: Jags to set up a short field and they went

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Speaker 1: forward on the fourth down to get that touchdown. Of course,

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Speaker 1: more coming up, including a pretty nice night for the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense Saturday, and all the availity availability from after

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Speaker 1: the game available on Jaguars dot com. Of course, it's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday. CBS Sports senior writer

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco joining us now Tony Boselli coming up in

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. Pete, good afternoon. What's up man?

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Speaker 5: You know JP?

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Speaker 6: I just said Tonia text and he's probably driving so

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Speaker 6: he should be reading it.

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Speaker 5: But what I said was, we've been doing this show

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Speaker 5: for how long?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 1: Three of us six at least maybe seven or eight.

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Speaker 6: Why is the intro always like we're just like guests

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Speaker 6: on the show or something.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get a word in edgewise. That's why, Pete,

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Speaker 1: I get my stuff done. And then here's the rest

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Speaker 1: of the show. Is yours.

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Speaker 8: Going to join the.

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Speaker 5: God?

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Speaker 6: I know you just seventy fives I heard every come

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Speaker 6: on to fix that.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. Yeah, absolutely no doubt about that. So,

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Speaker 1: uh that aside Pete glad we got started on the

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Speaker 1: right foot.

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Speaker 5: I got.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. You just heard from Doug Peterson Trevor Lawrence there.

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Speaker 1: The offense wasn't great and then they scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They spread the ball out to some of those playmakers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a game plan situation. They

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Doug Peterson protected Calvin Ridley on

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Speaker 6: dis play. I don't think the ball slipped out of

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Speaker 5: You can see it.

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Speaker 6: Look, he gets about ten yards past where he's supposed

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Speaker 5: Otherwise Ingram's wide open.

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Speaker 6: And I think what happened was it caused Trevor to

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Speaker 6: I think Doug protected Calvin Ridley on that play because

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Speaker 1: And yeah, number thirty who made that interception kind of

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Speaker 6: So but again it's a bad throw, bad mistake and

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Speaker 5: Look you can see it again here.

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Speaker 6: Look he's drip drip, drip drip, and the defensive into

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Speaker 5: So I can't fault really for that one.

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Speaker 6: And then I think you and I think the offense

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Speaker 5: They were working to get back up so at it

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Speaker 5: they're going to be really good on nobody's nobody needs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll see, you know what happens, but

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Speaker 1: at least give him an opportunity. Bucky Brooks thought that

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Speaker 1: drives until the quick change sudden change got him back

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Speaker 1: the fourth and three and cashed it in with a

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Speaker 5: By the way this played at two point play, Trevor

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Speaker 6: For a second. He had to fight open in the

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Speaker 6: but uh, you can see it right yeah there, No,

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Speaker 6: that's touchdown boy play on the two points. You can

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Speaker 6: see he's open in the middle of the field. He

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Speaker 5: And again he gets back up JP. That's Sam Williams.

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Speaker 6: It's a good player, that guy, either counting on the rush,

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Tony coming up and just a little

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Speaker 1: bit on that tackle play. But you know, in my

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Speaker 1: for Anton Harrison in those feet, Pete, he can move

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Speaker 5: It does.

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Speaker 6: And you know, the one play that he didn't make,

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Speaker 6: that he'll realize the speed of the game. He's got

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Speaker 6: you know, chip a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Or get to him. I just you gotta be impressed

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Speaker 6: I think another thing from the offensive line, Fortner looks

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Speaker 6: stronger and played stronger. Yeah, he played, and that's important

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Speaker 6: So I think when you look at that group, you're

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Speaker 6: gonna run the ball better. And you saw on this

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Speaker 1: Were watching the play the big run and Tim and

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Speaker 1: Luke Farrell on the right side of the tackle, on

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Speaker 1: the right side of the line, and I think Farrell

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Speaker 1: actually pancaked his guy. Yeah he did. And the Briton

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Speaker 5: That was a problem last year they couldn't block the edge.

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Speaker 6: So I think when you add those two into the equation,

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Speaker 6: think it's picked for the run game. Stronger Fortner big,

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Speaker 1: Defensively, Pete, you know, starting group got a little push.

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Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton had a pretty good game. Roy Robertson Harris

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Speaker 1: was called out by the coach today, had some good rushes.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get a lot of time on defense, but

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Speaker 1: when they were out there, the starting group looked good.

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Speaker 1: At Andre Cisco whipped on a sack. It set it

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Speaker 1: think the first possession for Dallas. But then even some

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Speaker 1: deeper guys were getting some players. Sere Abdulla had some

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Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have to count on a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It feels like on the edge and overall the defense,

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Speaker 1: I felt like I had a pretty good night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is Bullis sack and what I liked about

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Speaker 6: is he kept kept going. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 5: I think he was active, he was impressive. I liked

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Speaker 6: One of my favorite guys draft and I think they

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Speaker 6: got to be excited about what they sold from him.

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Speaker 6: Another guy that I thought played well was Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 6: Last year, Devin Lloyd played slow. He was thinking too much.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't reacting. He reacted in this game, and again

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Speaker 6: it's it's a preseason game, so there's not a lot

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Speaker 6: much faster, much more physical. He came up and blasted

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Speaker 1: Nine snaps to your point, Pete, So not a huge

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Speaker 1: sample size there, but even in that short time on

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Speaker 1: the field, yes, you can tell that, you know, it

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Speaker 1: is a little bit clear, at least early. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: how how much they're really going to play this week.

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Speaker 1: With all the practice reps against the Lions, I would

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Speaker 1: I would guess most of the starters will get a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. Most of their time there. That's what

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Speaker 1: you go up to Detroit for, and you know, see

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Speaker 5: I take ten snaps.

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Speaker 1: That's Pete Prisco. I'm JP, Shadwick, Tony Boselli coming up.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars headed to Detroit this week after a preseason

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Speaker 6: Yes, you never find out how valuable those guys are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought that first group did a

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Speaker 1: And I would say I was gonna say tweet us,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we change everything every year, right, does

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Speaker 5: It's the same thing everybody freaks out about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're dipping their toe in the water.

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Speaker 5: They keep raving about them all summer. Have you seen it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, I mean, but I mean it's been

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Speaker 5: So how many of you play?

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Speaker 1: It's so the sample size well now, Also the other

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Speaker 6: They need more of the past rus know that we

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Speaker 5: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And eight is much different than third and four in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Mike called well another year winning

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Speaker 5: A group would be much better pushing the pantsers.

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Speaker 1: See what happens on that one. Hey, there were some

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Speaker 1: So you keep having performances like this where you're around

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but recovering a fumble on a kickoff is an accident.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can't count. That's fine.

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Speaker 6: He made a great play, a great hustle play on

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Speaker 6: man situation? Because in his own situation, Trey Herndon could

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Speaker 6: do it. Problem with Trey's when they play man and

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Speaker 6: man he has issues with.

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Speaker 1: Can the rest of him play man?

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Speaker 6: That's to be You won't know until you play really

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Speaker 6: good slot receivers. You know, the young guys have flashed

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Speaker 6: in camp as well's done some good things. How it's

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Speaker 6: done some good things, and Junior has been better. But again,

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Speaker 6: when you're lining up against the top tier slot receiver

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Speaker 6: and he's got a too Bay goal on can you handle?

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Speaker 1: I mean they do it every day right with Christian

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Speaker 1: Kirk out there against him. In theory, it's good.

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Speaker 5: Work for me.

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Speaker 6: But again, driving on a punt, punching the ball loose

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Speaker 6: is a good decide.

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Speaker 5: That's good football player. That means he's.

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Speaker 6: Playing good football and he's around the ball. It's not

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Speaker 6: gonna decide who.

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Speaker 1: In theory if if whoever wins the gig is not

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Speaker 1: the best man corner, do you have to adjust your

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Speaker 1: entire scheme otherwise or is that kind of set So

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Speaker 1: what you're saying is outside guys, outside guy.

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Speaker 6: If Trey Hurd is a ticke a corner, again, do

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Speaker 6: you have problems to try and get man basically, which

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Speaker 6: you say, yeah, probably try and keep away from cuting

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Speaker 6: them in those situations. As more as possible, but that's

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Speaker 6: hard to do. It's hard to do. That's why you

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Speaker 6: love to have a guy who's capable matching up in

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Speaker 6: the slot. And you have enough gunk guys that could

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Speaker 6: do it. Yeah, at least have a chance to be

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Speaker 6: able to file on trays. A good fight to little player,

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Speaker 6: but you're limited, get run, and when you can't run,

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Speaker 6: hard to cover man the slot.

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Speaker 1: And this is why they drafted these guys the last

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Speaker 1: two years in the deeper rounds to see if they

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Speaker 1: could maybe mine somebody into doing it. So, who knows,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. That's a training camp of the

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Speaker 1: preseason games are for the start of the NFL season

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Speaker 1: is just around the corner, and we can't wait for

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Speaker 1: you to be back at the bank. The Jags entertain

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins in the preseason finale August twenty sixth Lock

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Speaker 1: a moment, back to the offense and the running game

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Speaker 1: got going in Dallas. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

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Speaker 7: It's great.

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Speaker 4: You know, we had a couple obviously it was such

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Speaker 4: a small like you said, sample size. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: it's different when you play full game and you get

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Speaker 4: different looks and you kind of progress as the game

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Speaker 4: goes and you kind of get get settled in. Obviously

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Speaker 4: that's you can see more.

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Speaker 1: But I thought you did a great job. That's some

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Speaker 1: nice catches today.

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Speaker 4: I thought we were really efficient when we did decide

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Speaker 4: to throw the ball today, obviously besides the interception. So

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Speaker 4: I think those were those were positives. I think we

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Speaker 4: ran the ball well. But you know, a couple of

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Speaker 4: plays here and there, a couple of negatives, so you know,

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Speaker 4: and like I said, the three and out wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, we're gonna keep getting better.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna keep getting better.

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Speaker 1: It's Trevor Lawrence, of course, Jaguars quarterback after the game

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Speaker 1: in Dallas Saturday. Asked about Calvin Ridley and a few

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Speaker 1: snaps they had together in the game against Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on Tintenexlam, Jaguars dot Com,

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Speaker 1: BISSELLI Tony coming up in just a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: let's start with Ridley and his debut with the Jags,

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Speaker 1: well preseason debut, Pete. I was running open a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. We saw the one on the interception, also

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Speaker 1: had a couple of catches in the game. Now, obviously

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Speaker 1: the coverage is different, there's not a lot of that

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Speaker 1: going on. It's that's planned out. So uh, he's moving

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Speaker 1: around like you had thought he would, let's put it

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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then you.

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Speaker 6: Saw him in practice playing the slot some inside of perk,

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Speaker 6: which I thought was interesting and I think they would

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Speaker 6: use him in that role for.

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Speaker 5: You try and create matchups to this sleeve, whether you

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Speaker 5: wherever you put him.

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Speaker 6: And I think he's got the speed that scares the

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Speaker 6: hell at a everybody, So I get it.

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Speaker 5: I like moving him around.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't a dynamic night for him, but you've seen

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Speaker 6: it all summer.

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Speaker 5: I saw it when I was there. The man can run.

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Speaker 6: He can run routes, and I think at times almost

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Speaker 6: he goes too fast and you have to harness it

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Speaker 6: a little bit. And I think he's starting to get

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Speaker 6: into that a little bit. You see the great receivers

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Speaker 6: they know how to harness that speed, and I think early.

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Speaker 5: In camp he was going so fast. But man, he's got.

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Speaker 6: A great combination speed and the ability to run routes

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Speaker 6: and that's gonna be tough to defend. And you only

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Speaker 6: saw a little bit of that. I can't I know

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Speaker 6: you guys going up there. I'd give be great to

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Speaker 6: see him this week against the Lions because I think

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Speaker 6: there's an opportunity to show that he really could do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how goes the Lions secondary Pete better?

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Speaker 6: I mean they went out and spend money on it,

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Speaker 6: so you know they got to be better. Added, they

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Speaker 6: drafted your Alabama branch who's been really good this season

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Speaker 6: this year. They signed Charncey Gardner Johnson, so they've added

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Speaker 6: pieces to second there.

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Speaker 5: So it's better to be much better test.

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Speaker 1: For branches like a heat seeking missile.

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Speaker 6: Pete like he just remember he did it all about

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Speaker 6: and then he got painted because he wasn't timed at

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Speaker 6: a great time and they wondered what could he do

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Speaker 6: with the safety the hybrid?

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Speaker 5: Does he played Nickel?

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Speaker 1: Just a good football players around the ball right right.

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Speaker 5: Find a way to get them.

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Speaker 6: So I think that'll chance for Ridley to go show

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Speaker 6: people what he what he can really do.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that coming up. Obviously, Christian Kirk had

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Speaker 1: the touchdown catch in the back of the end zones.

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Speaker 1: A Jones got his two point play. Uh, they gave

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Speaker 1: a look to Ingram Officially he didn't have a catch

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Speaker 1: in the game. Some guys later in the game had

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Speaker 1: a couple of catches as well. Cooks, Stray Jenkins, Seth Williams,

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Speaker 1: Snoop out of the backfield had a couple of catches

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Speaker 1: in the game. Britain Strange had two also for a

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Speaker 1: short yardage.

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Speaker 6: So you know, some of those young receivers look pretty good,

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Speaker 6: though the big guy.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of tall guys that are like on

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Speaker 1: the you know, six five, six seven, maybe on the

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Speaker 1: bubble of making this team. Pete, you've been.

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Speaker 5: There more than me. But if Jenkin splash that kind

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Speaker 5: of ability a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, it felt like this was more than he

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Speaker 1: did in practice to me just first glance.

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Speaker 6: Not that he hasn't had some opportunities and that game

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Speaker 6: didn't catch any balls.

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Speaker 5: He had some opportunities and he's had a good summer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the two the tall guys like Cooks is one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that is like six foot four or something.

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Speaker 1: Either're massive and they don't.

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Speaker 5: They don't have that figure. The four are.

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Speaker 6: Definite, right, you got the three starters, An Agnes. You're

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Speaker 6: gonna have the kid from Penn State. He didn't catch

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Speaker 6: a pass, it's gonna return a punt, so he's gonna

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Speaker 6: be on.

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Speaker 1: It, right, Parker Washington, Yes.

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Speaker 5: Right, So then got to pick a six receiver.

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Speaker 1: So it's you know, a guy like Tim Jones has

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Speaker 1: been around here right special teams ace, he's probably I

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Speaker 1: talked to him the other week. He understands what this

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Speaker 1: is like. They've got enough receivers here. He's got to

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Speaker 1: really perform on special teams to make this team.

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Speaker 5: And he's and that could decide to get it.

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Speaker 1: He's the incumbent, right, so it kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So if a guy like Elijah Cook six four two

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Speaker 1: fifteen comes in and can play on a gunner and

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Speaker 1: do all that stuff, fine. Jacob Harris is another guy.

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Speaker 1: He's six five, two eleven pete and he's a third

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Speaker 1: year player out of Central Florida. So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Special teams will decide that, absolutely, no question.

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Speaker 6: The other guy's the practice because nobody's from picking them up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean that's that's what it is. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what it is.

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Speaker 6: And you hope unlike you know, Josh Olive going off

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Speaker 6: into the sunset or Alan walking off into the sunset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only two there's it's a longer list than that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know we can keep going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got two hours unfortunately to fill that time. Hey,

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Speaker 1: running game. We saw Snoop Connor on the on themographic

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Speaker 1: for on Jaguars dot Com for a couple of receptions

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Speaker 1: in the game. But Tank Bixby had that thirty four

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Speaker 1: yard run. It was really blocked up well on the

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Speaker 1: right side of the line by the tight ends. He

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Speaker 1: bounced it out and then you could see his open

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Speaker 1: field speed once he was out there. Pete, he's he's

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Speaker 1: got a little something to him. Dejanis Johnson's been around

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Speaker 1: the league. Five carries thirty one yards in the game,

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Speaker 1: including a twenty six yarder Travis eat and Junior five

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Speaker 1: for twenty two and then Snoop had seven carries in

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Speaker 1: the game. But hey, I think they were in situations

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Speaker 1: Saturday they wanted to see some short yard edge with Tank,

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Speaker 1: see what he had to offer because that was kind

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Speaker 1: of the the resume with him a little bit at Auburn,

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Speaker 1: and he's not afraid to go up in there. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think they converted every single one of those situations,

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Speaker 1: but you want to at least know that it's there

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Speaker 1: if you need it, and maybe it's something to work

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Speaker 1: on moving ahead.

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Speaker 5: Well, didn't they have the third one and he got lasted. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you get it, that's right, he's got a at that.

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Speaker 5: It was a guy in the hole. He's gotta he's

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Speaker 5: gotta win that. He's gotta win that.

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Speaker 6: But I was impressed with him, and he's an impressive

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Speaker 6: ball camp. I mean, he's he's a tough, physical wonder

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Speaker 6: and he has heed to kind of run away from guys.

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Speaker 6: So the question becomes, how do you use it? And

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Speaker 6: you know you don't want to take too many Carris

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Speaker 6: me t but you gotta take. But I thought Dan

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Speaker 6: last year learned how to roam, He learned how to tougher,

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Speaker 6: Remember he didn't take as many shots, learned how to

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Speaker 6: turn his body in the hold.

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Speaker 1: The first half of the season. Last year, he is

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Speaker 1: like heads over heels like.

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Speaker 6: Remember he was essentially a rookie. He didn't understand the

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Speaker 6: speed of the game. So how do you Bigsby? Is

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Speaker 6: Bigsby the short yardage guy? Is he he come in

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Speaker 6: and you know, spot him for a series or do

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Speaker 6: I think that's how you use him.

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Speaker 5: But he's an impressive kid. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 6: Your team gets better when you might have to cut

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Speaker 6: a guy who was the team of year.

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Speaker 5: And that's a good time. I mean, the kid of it, Connor.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you don't want to cuts like that, but

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Speaker 6: if you're getting the young draft pick, and he's better

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Speaker 6: to be in that.

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Speaker 1: Situation, right, And I mean Snoop Connor last season had

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Speaker 1: very little play on offense and didn't do much on

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Speaker 1: special teams at all.

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Speaker 5: So hey, make a decision to get a tough decision there.

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Speaker 6: But again, there can be better running all short yard

665
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Speaker 6: situation because of Bigsby works bigger, Serf's.

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Speaker 5: Healthy and the tight ends can block. That's gonna be

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Speaker 5: important for them. Hey.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ben Bartsch was back at practice today, Pete,

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Speaker 1: I think they're actually they just finished I think about

670
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Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. They had an afternoon practice today, but

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Speaker 1: I was out there for stretch and speaking of that

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Speaker 1: interior offensive line, which we'll get to more offensive line

673
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Speaker 1: coming up up with Tony. But hey, Bart's after about

674
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Speaker 1: the ten month mark with the knee. Andrew was out

675
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Speaker 1: there and he was he was playing pretty well early

676
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Speaker 1: in the season and having that big body out there

677
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Speaker 1: could help that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Hants played okay at left guard the other day. It

680
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: wasn't great, but he's physical enough.

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Speaker 5: They have bodies.

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Speaker 6: Now, you know you look at it, they have bodies

683
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Speaker 6: because Ants can play tax So he's done that. He's

684
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Speaker 6: spotted him before a teams you have Shadley. Course, the

685
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Speaker 6: rookie did some good things physical. He missed a few blocks,

686
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Speaker 6: missed few assignment. He did some good things.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure Tony I watched, but I'm sure Tony

688
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Speaker 5: a lot of this.

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Speaker 6: And then the backup center actually did some pretty good things.

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Speaker 6: So they had He's and Wells was good there. I

691
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Speaker 6: think you might have been the best tackle the other night.

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Speaker 1: He's ten years in pretty good right.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but that's the nice for me because he

694
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Speaker 5: hasn't been good here.

695
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Speaker 6: But the other night and and so who wasn't great

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Speaker 6: the other night Cam Robins, I didn't think he why

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00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 6: rushers give up? Didn't look as good as he passed. Uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, they're gonna have a tough decision to make.

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Speaker 6: They really are. And I was there a couple weeks

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Speaker 6: ago Jeane for net something saying that the offensive coach

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Speaker 6: said Cam Robinson was going to get work at left

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Speaker 6: hard had that materialized at all?

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Speaker 1: The Cam Robinson stuff, I haven't seen it, okay, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't been out for I haven't watched Walker. I

705
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Speaker 1: know Walker certainly has.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So they're gonna have a tough decision. But we're

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Speaker 6: gonna when Tony gets it, we're gonna talk to him

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Speaker 6: about this. I think we both think of on the

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Speaker 6: same lines. But they're gonna have a tough decision to

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Speaker 6: make Cam Robinson.

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Speaker 5: He was in the game the four quarter with the.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly. That's why it's been I think a lot

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Speaker 1: in practice too. I mean, if Walker Little is getting

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Speaker 1: the number one reps, sometimes somebody's gonna get the rest

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Speaker 1: of them. And that's what it is. You got to

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Speaker 1: get your guy ready for the regular season opener.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're gonna it's gonna be an interesting

718
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Speaker 6: four weeks to start.

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Speaker 1: The season, you know, And you know how this goes,

720
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: Pete like football, happens, A month of football happens, and

721
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: it might just naturally take a turn like you don't know,

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Speaker 1: I not don't want it to happen that way, But.

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Speaker 5: Where does it take the turn? Does the rookie go

724
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: bad at right tackle? And then you have to walker

725
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 5: little there.

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Speaker 1: Or yeah that or you know, god, God forbid, there's

727
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Speaker 1: an injury or something crazy happens like that, or the

728
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: yuards playing great, you don't want to move him? Then Okay,

729
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Then then it becomes a decision.

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Speaker 6: If the left tackle isn't playing, which I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I think he's I think I think he's good. He's

732
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Speaker 6: gonna be good. But if he doesn't play well, then

733
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 6: you gotta start thinking about the future.

734
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Speaker 1: Right, and then it's like a bigger question is then

735
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Speaker 1: there's this season.

736
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Speaker 6: It's that topic, Doug when I was there, and you know,

737
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Speaker 6: they don't want to about the future.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about Yeah, yeah, it's a little early for that,

739
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 5: Me, I'm a look at the future, right.

741
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: They haven't even you know, suited up for week one yet,

742
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, but you got you gotta go, That's what

743
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I do. I mean, but if you yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm sure the GM has probably thought about this

745
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: at some point, but he's not gonna admit his training camp.

746
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Speaker 5: But what what what, here's the thing.

747
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: He's got confidence in his guy. They're gonna play well, right.

748
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 6: Promise it makes a lot of money. But just because

749
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 6: you pay him a lot of money doesn't. He's gonna

750
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Speaker 6: go back into the line. And that's where you're gonna get.

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Speaker 5: That's the toughy situation right there. M hed a guy,

752
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 5: make it, make it sixteen million.

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00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: It's a lot, and.

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00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: He was working with the three in the fourth quarter.

755
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: It's a lot. But hey, if you're if the line

756
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: is mauling people in the first four.

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00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 5: Weeks, Okay, let's say that play that one out.

758
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: Let's just say they're mauling people and forget the record, right,

759
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Let's just say they are running the ball. What's that

760
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: three and one and they're mauling people. They're running the ball,

761
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Speaker 1: they're great on short yard edge, they're the quarterback's been

762
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: clean for the most part. Why would you change that?

763
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Speaker 5: I would? I would not. I'm with you. And here's

764
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: the other part of that.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna be in London, so he's gonna have to

766
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 6: flight to London and join them against Buffalo. So in

767
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: that scenario, he doesn't play five weeks from well.

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Speaker 1: I mean they do have first class seats. It's not

769
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: like it's he's gonna be sitting coach, right.

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Speaker 5: You're not working at the offensive line.

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Speaker 6: You gotta OHESI viewed it. That's now working well together?

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Speaker 6: Do you take the take Walker Little out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. And yeah, and you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: in London. It would be at one of those countryside

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Speaker 1: resort hotel places where they have a field set up,

778
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Speaker 1: but you're out there and yeah, is that the time

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Speaker 1: to start mixing up the line and doing reps of

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Speaker 1: all places?

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Speaker 6: I don't Know's if it's a group that's playing really

782
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Speaker 6: well and you're three and one, no, so that means

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Speaker 6: you go to week five. So you know, at some

784
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 6: point maybe it happens. But you also got to once

785
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 6: you get later in the season, you gonna start thinking

786
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Speaker 6: about next year because he isn't gonna be be real.

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Speaker 5: He's gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all that dead money kind of goes away, right.

789
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's dead. He's gone. He's gone. So that means

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Speaker 5: Walker Little has to be your left tackle. Next year.

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Speaker 1: So the Jags are home week six, So Week five

792
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Speaker 1: of course is Buffalo in London, and then week six

793
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Speaker 1: home against the Colts, and then there's a Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: A quick turn.

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Speaker 5: Here's the other thing.

796
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Speaker 6: Jp the teams that they played the first four weeks

797
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 6: of the season aren't exactly knowing for their edge rushers. Hmm, right,

798
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Speaker 6: he had the city known for their inside rush with

799
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Speaker 6: Chris Jones.

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Speaker 5: He not even there yet week one.

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Speaker 1: What do you got with Colts Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: Not known for their edge their inside rush host well,

803
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Speaker 6: Will Anderson, he's still a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta they have nothing. So Buffalo is von Miller the first.

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Speaker 5: One, and we don't know von Miller is going to

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Speaker 5: be back.

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Speaker 6: But they have a lot of Russo bashed uh Epinesse

808
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 6: and Rushy Floyd, so they have guys. But again, if

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Speaker 6: they play well first weeks of the season three and one,

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Speaker 6: why would you make the change?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because you got it's three and one

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Speaker 1: at that point, and then you got four weeks, get

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Speaker 1: to the bye week and maybe reassess. Then right week nine.

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Speaker 5: If they're playing well, you're not making a chance.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But if for some reason it

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Speaker 1: turns the wrong way, then you can make another decision.

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Speaker 5: Right, you could.

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Speaker 6: If they're going well on into the middle of the season,

819
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Speaker 6: toward pushing towards November, why would you make that change

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Speaker 6: because he's not going to be here next year, enterway

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Speaker 6: right right.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to know if he's getting guard walk.

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Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see. Absolutely. I'll keep a better

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Speaker 1: eye on that training campus. I'll look in in Detroit

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00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: when you know, we'll see how many reps they get

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Speaker 1: because it's going to be.

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Speaker 5: The offensive line.

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Speaker 6: Coach said it a couple of weeks ago, and I

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Speaker 6: had anybody seen it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly I have it either. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: I haven't wanted every single rep, so I cannot.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, somebody said trade him, and I'm like,

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00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: you never know when this league.

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Speaker 5: You gotta have learned that.

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Speaker 1: Less exactly, I mean an interior and out on the outside.

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Speaker 1: Last year they had changes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, plenty more head will come back in a moment,

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I thought Anton was another one that you really saw

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Speaker 3: his aggressive this you saw us at athleticism. Again, some

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00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: things we can clean up and you know, improve upon.

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Speaker 5: But again I thought, I thought.

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Speaker 3: Overall, he did a nice job, you know, first time out,

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Speaker 3: and really it really showed the type of player that

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Speaker 3: that he is. And obviously you know the reason why

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Speaker 3: we drafted.

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Speaker 1: Him, I said coach Doug Peterson, of course, on the

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Speaker 1: Zoom call earlier today with the media rehashing the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: few moments of the opening hour with CBS Sports senior

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Speaker 1: writer Pete Prisco. We'll have Tony Boselli coming up in

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Speaker 1: the second hour of this show. We'll say goodbye to Pete.

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Speaker 1: Or We've got the new studio here at the Miller

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Speaker 1: Electric Center. And we will get everybody back together. We'll

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Speaker 1: get the band back together very soon, Pete.

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Speaker 5: So I don't get to beat him up. Yeah, you

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Speaker 5: know this is not the same on a Monday when

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Speaker 5: we're not beating him up. Tony at JP, don't ever

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Speaker 5: call me tonya Pete. That's a bad one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: You can call them anything else you want.

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Speaker 5: I got to give him credit. He's skinny.

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Speaker 1: He is really skinny. He's been working at it. Man.

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Speaker 1: He was in here last week, Pete doing push ups

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Speaker 1: between commercial breaks.

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Speaker 7: See.

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Speaker 6: And I'm in the process of getting skinny too. But

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Speaker 6: I'm not as skinny as he is here.

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Speaker 1: But Pete, you've been in the weight room.

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Speaker 5: It looks like No.

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Speaker 6: I actually have been working out all but not in

882
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 6: a lot of weights.

883
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 5: I'm down about twenty five pounds.

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: Good for you, Yeah good.

885
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: I want to get even skinnier. But BISSELLI looks fantastic,

886
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 6: looks like a shoals.

887
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: He's got to get that jacket recut again.

888
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 5: No, that coming. I mean he got out weeks ago,

889
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 5: but he went to camp.

890
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 6: And he got enough with that. We went through a

891
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: whole year. I mean, ifore fifteen years of that, not

892
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 6: of that poor jacket.

893
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: No more. Uh Pete uh cover Pete Brisco or CBS

894
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Speaker 1: Sports senior writer Tony coming up in just about six

895
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Speaker 1: minutes or so at the five o'clock the second hour.

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Speaker 1: So all right, Anton Harrison. We touched on him earlier,

897
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: Pete and his feet and his ability to move, and

898
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: he showed a lot of that. Now, granted, he did

899
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Speaker 1: play a little bit longer than the first team that

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Speaker 1: got nine or was it nine snaps? I guess for

901
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys on the first team, not many.

902
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 6: He stayed in longer though. Yeah, he and Walker Little

903
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 6: stayed in for a couple more.

904
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Speaker 1: Another series checking the Anton Harrison had twenty two snaps. Yeah,

905
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: how about Cooper Hodges played sixty.

906
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: Eight snaps and did enough to keep an eye on.

907
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 5: It's interesting. He's an interesting player.

908
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: He pancaked one guy.

909
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: I'm telling you he's physical.

910
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 6: He might be one of those guys keep around. But Harrison,

911
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: back to Harrison, I love my cell phone. Sam Williams

912
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 6: is a group player. The Kallas is counting on Sam

913
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 6: Williams to rush the passer, and he did a nice

914
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Speaker 6: top against him. So you got to be encouraged by that.

915
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 6: And again this week you go to Detroit. We know

916
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Speaker 6: Hutchinson can rush the passer, James Houston can rush the passer,

917
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: and they have guys to get after, so it'll be

918
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 6: a bigger test for him from that standpoint.

919
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: This week fun to watch for sure. Where are you

920
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: this week?

921
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 5: Pete? What do you back down? Off the road?

922
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: I got poising in.

923
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Speaker 6: Green Bay on Tuesday, which was wonderful, and then I

924
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 6: sat on a plane for six hours on Thursday.

925
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: What was it from? Do you remember?

926
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

927
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: You know those little like uh.

928
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 6: You know, beef jerkey, kind of like little things that

929
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 6: you put with cheese. It was just like a quick

930
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 6: snack because we hadn't eat an all all day, so

931
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 6: I took a couple over my mouth.

932
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: I never never recovered. Was twelve hours later and I

933
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 5: had to go see the packers teap dog. They hooked

934
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Speaker 5: me up.

935
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Speaker 6: Oh no, And I was supposed to fly at ten

936
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Speaker 6: thirty four And he doesn't say that fight up for stout.

937
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh no. It's the worst feeling ever.

938
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Speaker 5: Can't do anyhow, get your disney go up, dizzy. I

939
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: was light headed. I had to cloud get out of

940
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 5: the hotel. The walk around. I felt, and then six

941
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Speaker 5: hours on the plane Thursday, JP.

942
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Speaker 6: Six hours we left Atlanta, we got the wunder the

943
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 6: airport's clothed. They turned us around, started going back to Jacksonville.

944
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Speaker 6: Then they went to Orlando. I lived doing out six hours.

945
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Speaker 1: Wow, what a story, What a way to close the show,

946
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: at least the first hour of it. Pete will talk

947
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: to you again next week after the Jags get home

948
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: from Detroit.

949
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: You got it. Take care jab.

950
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Rider. When we come back,

951
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli back with us for the second hour. This

952
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.

953
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: We know our defense, our defense knows our offense, and

954
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: sometimes it just goes back and forth where not too

955
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: many people win.

956
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: But here you get to compete against another.

957
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: Team in a controlled environment. You know your starters are

958
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: going to get the bulk of the work this week.

959
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: And you're still again, you're still evaluating. We're still in

960
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: training camp and evaluating. But the fact that we get

961
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: to see a different team, different structure, those are all

962
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: things that are beneficial to us as a football team.

963
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's head coach Doug Peterson earlier today on

964
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Speaker 1: a zoom call Welcome Back. It's the second hour of

965
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings J P.

966
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: Shadwick with you. We had Pete Prisco's CBS Sports senior

967
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: writer in the opening hour of the show, Tony Boselli

968
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: coming up shortly. The Jaguar is coming off will win

969
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: and preseason week one, twenty eight, twenty three over the

970
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at AT and T Stadium. That was on

971
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon and evening. Jagg's starting offense had an interception

972
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence in the second throw of the game

973
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: for him and then a three and out, but then

974
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: after getting a possession back on the ensuing punt fumbled

975
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: away recovered by the Jags short field, the starting offense

976
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: went back out there and cashed in a touchdown after

977
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: that takeaway, and Lawrence finished the day five of six

978
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: passing thirty six yards, a touchdown and an interception. The

979
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: Jags starting defense was solid overall, two takeaways on defense,

980
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: four sacks overall. In the game, the starting group looked

981
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: pretty good, though most of the starters for Dallas were

982
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: not out there either way. Some good work for that

983
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: group reports that Jadavian Clowney was in the building the

984
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars Sunday on the off day. Doug Peterson did not

985
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: have much to say about it today when asked in

986
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: that media zoom call. So now it's on to Detroit.

987
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: Practice Wednesday and Thursday at Allen Park and then the

988
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: game Saturday at Ford Field and downtown Detroit. Two good

989
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: days of work against a football team that a lot

990
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: of people feel could be a force in the NFC North.

991
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: My that division has certainly changed over the last year

992
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: or so with the departure of the quarterback from Green Bay.

993
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Lions are ready for prime time.

994
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: It may not be quite yet it's training camp, but

995
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: it'll be at least a couple of good days to

996
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: work some talented position groups on both sides of the

997
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: ball for the Lions, and a good test for this

998
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Jags team. We're talking about it with Pete in the

999
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: first hour. You know, a lot of the Jaguars first

1000
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: team players really on both sides, but let's start with

1001
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: the offense might get a lot of their time or

1002
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: most of their time in the practices, and if those

1003
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: go well, I'd be curious when Doug Peterson decides, you know,

1004
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,479
Speaker 1: how much do these guys actually play in the game

1005
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: on Saturday at Ford Field. If they put together two

1006
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: strong days of work, maybe that's enough for the week

1007
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: because they'll get plenty of reps in the practices both

1008
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Speaker 1: days and it's a controlled environment. So why risk it

1009
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: to throw the offense back out there for you know,

1010
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: two three four drives whatever you think you normally might

1011
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: have in week two of a preseason when you've already

1012
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: got the work in that week against another opponent and

1013
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: the guys in the trenches have had the work, you

1014
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: know that. We'll see what happens. We'll see what Doug

1015
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Peterson has in mind as the week goes along. I

1016
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: think it's still a little bit too early to figure

1017
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: it out. If for some reason the work isn't great,

1018
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: which I don't expect it to be. But if for

1019
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: some reason it's not, doesn't look right, or something's going on,

1020
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: maybe then that decision could come to give them some

1021
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: game time. Again, too early to tell. We'll see what happens. Defensively,

1022
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: same idea, right, I think you want to see in

1023
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: Detroit on the practice field some success in those one

1024
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: on one pass rush situations against the Lions. The Lions

1025
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: offensive line is pretty good. The tackles, notably, are good.

1026
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: So a good test. Josh Allen, Trayvon Walker. You see

1027
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: Abdullah who had a good game in Dallas at least

1028
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: in his first outing. Bring it back to the practice

1029
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: field and see if you can move on that. And

1030
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: again Kayla and Chase On, Hey, it's time. This is

1031
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: the time to step up and be on this football

1032
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: team and get better in this training camp. And you

1033
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: got to do that in Detroit this week. If they're

1034
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: if they're bringing players in the building to talk to them, well,

1035
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: let's see it. Let's see Caleb On, Chase On step

1036
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: up in a big way. And even some of the

1037
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: deeper guys in the roster we talked about, who guys

1038
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: who've been banged up and out. I mean Jordan Smith

1039
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: his third year, he hasn't played a snap out of

1040
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: UA B. Of course, originally went to Florida and then

1041
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: was out of school there, ended up at a junior college,

1042
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: was it UA B and Birmingham. But he's six seven,

1043
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: two fifty. He's had two different knee injuries. If for

1044
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: some reason he can continue to build and move forward,

1045
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: maybe you have something that not a lot of people expected. Still,

1046
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: let's call it a long shot, is what it is.

1047
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: He's going to get an opportunity to go out there

1048
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: and play and continue to get better. Let's see if

1049
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: that can happen this week against Detroit. And then on

1050
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: the back end, right, I mean, this is a Detroit

1051
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: team that has pretty good passing offense, good receivers, a

1052
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: good chance for this secondary to get some looks. They're

1053
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out that third corner. Is it Herndon,

1054
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: Is it a guy like Gregory Junior who was around

1055
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: the football a couple of times at least on takeaways,

1056
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: But Kenny cover. To Pete Prisco's point, Kenny consistently cover

1057
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: in the slot. And I think we'll find you know,

1058
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: we'll find out a little bit more and the more

1059
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: situations you have in an environment like this week in

1060
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: Detroit for a guy like Junior to stay up up

1061
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: and continue to play. And the young guys this year,

1062
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: there's really the two draft picks from last year late

1063
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: the two draft picks from the later rounds this year

1064
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: as well. You got to see them in live action

1065
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: or as close to live action as you can now

1066
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: those guys will probably get some time in the game

1067
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: no matter what happens on the practice field Wednesday and Thursday,

1068
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: because you need as many eyeballs on them, as many

1069
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: reps as you can with the live action with some

1070
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: of those deeper corners, to really get an idea of

1071
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: what you're working with here, and because there is a

1072
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: tough decision to be made in the coming weeks to

1073
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: make it tomorrow, but you'd like to kind of maybe

1074
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: start moving in the direction of a decision at some point,

1075
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: maybe after this week, or at least have a favorite

1076
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: or two and see how they finish up the preseason.

1077
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: But at some point, I mean right after that third

1078
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: preseason game, I believe it's the Tuesday after. You have

1079
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: to have that fifty three down. So which guys are

1080
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna make your team? First of all, do you like

1081
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: enough to try to sneak onto your practice squad? Will

1082
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: they make it to your practice squad? These are all

1083
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: factors in building the roster moving ahead. So they've got

1084
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: some work to do, and so the next week ahead

1085
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I think is really key for a lot of areas

1086
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: because you have a piece of tape now in the

1087
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: Dallas game to start with you've got the coaching points

1088
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: from that game. We can take to the classroom this

1089
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: week and then get ready for another opponent against the

1090
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: Lions two days on the field. This is where the

1091
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: preseason in training camp really turns one way or another

1092
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys trying to make the team.

1093
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: They might have had a decent report to in the game,

1094
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: build on it right. Maybe you didn't have such a

1095
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: good game. Okay, we'll have a chance to go back

1096
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: out and perform and get better and see if you

1097
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: can build your resume again in training camp. Tony Viselli

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00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: with us down prior to the Jaguars left tackle, Hall

1099
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: of Famer, all the above. You know him, you love him. Hello, Tony,

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00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: you can have to do How are you doing doing well?

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00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 5: Man?

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: Getting ready for the Lions game? The Lions practice is

1103
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: coming up. But let's rehash. We had Pete on the

1104
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: first hour. We've got Tony on the second hour, so

1105
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: which we'll have a pretty good idea of which hour

1106
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: has the best ratings. I don't know which is gonna be.

1107
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: That's your call.

1108
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 8: Well, and sooner or later we'll get Pete and Eye

1109
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 8: on for the whole two hours. Once we get this

1110
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 8: whole new fancy stuff we have going on here. So yeah, JP,

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00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 8: I mean I was listening to you talk through and

1112
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 8: you're a pro model. A little monologue off the cuff,

1113
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 8: well done, by.

1114
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: The way, appreciate it.

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00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a good job. A couple of things

1116
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 8: you said that I find interesting. Is this team at

1117
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 8: the stage And maybe it is just because this is

1118
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 8: how the NFL works today, where you don't give your

1119
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 8: starting units any reps even if you are practicing with

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00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 8: Detroit for those two days. I could see if it

1121
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 8: was the last preseason game that would make sense. I mean,

1122
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 8: we saw that last year in Atlanta where they got

1123
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 8: good work and then they pretty much said that was it.

1124
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 8: But this is the second preseason game. I don't think

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00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 8: it was a great showing in the first preseason game

1126
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 8: by that one offense and the one defense was solid.

1127
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 8: But they're playing against all backups, and so I'm not

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 8: sure this team's at the level where I would say, hey,

1129
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 8: let's have two good practices with Detroit and call it

1130
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 8: a day. I still think they can get reps. I

1131
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 8: think reps are valuable. You have a young, young team,

1132
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 8: You have a receiver in Calvin Ridley who hasn't played football.

1133
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: In a year two years? Almost? Yeah, I mean, so

1134
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: how many would you give him in a game? Would

1135
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: you go quarter?

1136
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 7: I would go at quarter.

1137
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 8: Now, if you're Doug and Trent, your is weighing the

1138
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 8: risk reward. What's what do you accomplish in that quarter?

1139
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 8: What do you get compared to the risk of something

1140
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 8: you know, awful happening, which the game of football that

1141
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 8: can happen on the practice field, by the way.

1142
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 7: Is.

1143
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 8: It can happen anytime. So I think that's always dangerous

1144
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 8: to be worrying about. You have to, you have to

1145
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 8: be aware of it. But making worst case scenario, you're

1146
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 8: you know what you're going to do. Because that was

1147
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 8: the case, you wouldn't do anything contact, he wouldn't do

1148
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 8: anything and just wait to the first game, which nobody

1149
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 8: is saying that's the right decision. I think reps with

1150
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 8: this team would be good. I think Trevor getting you know,

1151
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 8: a few a few more live reps.

1152
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 7: It's different.

1153
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 8: It's different for the quarterback even from sitting at practice

1154
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 8: because he knows that practice he can't get hit. Now,

1155
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 8: Trevor is not one you have to worry about. Shying

1156
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 8: away from contact. I mean, he is a man who

1157
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 8: has quite a bit of courage sitting in there and

1158
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 8: taking shots as he's delivering the ball. So I'm not

1159
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 8: worried about that. But you know, I think it's good,

1160
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 8: and I think it's good for the young tackle. I

1161
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 8: think Harrison has to play. I thought he was good.

1162
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 8: I think I would play Walker little. I get him reps.

1163
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 8: I mean he's still a young player who's really only played,

1164
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 8: you know, a third of a.

1165
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 7: Season in the starting position.

1166
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 8: So now, if you wanted to sit out Sheriff, Okay,

1167
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 8: I mean that makes sense. Sure, he's a veteran, he's

1168
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 8: done a thousand times. He probably doesn't need another rep

1169
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 8: to be ready for opening day. Now knowing him, he'll

1170
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 8: probably want to be out there.

1171
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: He's that type of guy.

1172
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: Makes sense.

1173
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to reel him in now. I just

1174
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 7: think it'd be good now.

1175
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 8: And I would love to see that starting defense, especially

1176
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 8: if Detroit is gonna play their ones. That's a great test.

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00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 8: That's a good offensive line, that's a good they have

1178
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 8: good backs, they have a good quarterback. They have you know,

1179
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 8: receivers who can do some stuff. And let's not forget

1180
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 8: they'd beat the you know.

1181
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 7: What out of us last year up in Detroit.

1182
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 8: Put until I would I would be one, regardless of

1183
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 8: how practice goes, of getting at least a quarter in

1184
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 8: with my starters. I think that's where I would.

1185
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Go Tony, Tony Boselli with us, of course, So we

1186
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: can touch on that again a little bit later when

1187
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: we keep it real, we'll dig a little more into

1188
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: some of those matchups you'll see on the practice field Wednesday,

1189
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: Thursday and maybe in the game even on Saturday at

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: Ford Field. But let's rewind a little bit. You touched

1191
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: on Antony Harrison and Pete and I talked about it

1192
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: in the first hour. Just you're gonna have obviously a

1193
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: much better answer and analysis on his performance. But boy,

1194
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: those feet are no lying Tony, he can move around.

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00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: That was as advertised.

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 8: Oh he's a great athlete. I mean he's a fluid,

1197
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 8: fluid big man. And that was, you know, as advertised, JP,

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00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 8: I think is the way I would say it. What

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Speaker 8: I also liked, I thought he was no it was

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Speaker 8: just the first preseason game he's playing against backups, but

1201
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 8: I thought he was more physical in the run game

1202
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 8: as well. I liked it.

1203
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 7: I mean I thought he had a little get.

1204
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 8: Off and he was trying to finish blocks. There's there's

1205
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 8: urgency to him. I mean that was you know, for

1206
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 8: his first debut in a live action on the field.

1207
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 8: I thought that was very, very positive. Now there's some

1208
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 8: things he needs to clean up in his sets that

1209
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 8: he gets away with because he's such a great athlete

1210
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 8: that a better player.

1211
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 7: Is gonna put stress on him. I mean, there was

1212
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 7: no stress for him in that game.

1213
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, Dante Fowler is you know not

1214
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 8: it was never a great pass rusher, and you know

1215
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 8: he's older now, so you know, that wasn't a huge test.

1216
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 8: It was good to work against a veteran and some

1217
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 8: of those younger guys that I couldn't even tell you

1218
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 8: their names. He's gonna be facing, you know, much better

1219
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 8: caliber player when it counts.

1220
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 7: But with that set, he did his job.

1221
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 8: Needs to clean up some stuff on the backside, you

1222
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 8: know how he hands the backside.

1223
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 7: Especially on some of those counter runs.

1224
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 8: But overall, if I was Phil Rauscher, I'd be like, Okay,

1225
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 8: like I saw it in practice, I've seen it now

1226
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 8: in the game field. This kid can play, and the

1227
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 8: one thing he can't do is past blot. I mean,

1228
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 8: he is athletic and he's a guy. I mean, he's

1229
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 8: gonna play right this year, but I mean he he

1230
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 8: could play left.

1231
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 7: I mean that's what he didn't call.

1232
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 8: It, an athlete and so that was very positive overall.

1233
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 7: I thought the line was fine.

1234
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 8: They you know, probably struggled in the run game a

1235
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 8: little bit early, but they got it going and Travis

1236
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 8: and Bigsby another positive performance for a young player.

1237
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 7: But he has some chew, doesn't he.

1238
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: Does right and the way they blocked it up on

1239
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: that big run was huge and he just bounced it

1240
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: out there and turned on the Jets.

1241
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 8: Yeah he has you know, there's a third and one.

1242
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 8: I'd like to see him maybe get the pad level

1243
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 8: a little low and and get underneath that defender and

1244
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 8: maybe he could get that you know, is that you

1245
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 8: only needed a half yard, would have got the first

1246
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 8: down early in that game. You know, little things like that,

1247
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 8: but that's you know, that's nitpicky. So you look at

1248
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 8: the rookies. That was positive. I thought, really positive. You know,

1249
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 8: Trevor was fine. There was a dumb mistake early trying

1250
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 8: to make something happen.

1251
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: We were talking about that earlier Tony Pete and I

1252
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean just kind of looking at it again. You know,

1253
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: the throw wasn't that off. I mean, Evan Ingram was

1254
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: back there, but the defender who was on Calvin was

1255
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: drifting back and was right there. So well what happened there.

1256
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 8: It's a scramble situation because Calvin's so it's a levels route.

1257
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 8: You have Calvin, that's you have, you're underneath the first kind.

1258
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 8: I can't remember what tight end was. He was shallow.

1259
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 8: You had the crosser with Calvin Ridley, so he's running across,

1260
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 8: and then you have the rocal route. The burkeal route

1261
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 8: was Evan and so the play was the timing was off,

1262
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 8: there was nothing there, so we got extended and Calvin.

1263
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 8: What happened to scramble rules, you know, certain guys will

1264
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 8: go back to the ball, certain guys will break it deep.

1265
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 8: Calvin breaks it deep, which helped that defender be able

1266
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 8: to kind of drift because Calvin started bending it off.

1267
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 8: Even with that said, Trevor's got to understand, he's he's

1268
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 8: got to see that underneath guy, and you throw that,

1269
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 8: we're only Evan can get it. And so I'm not

1270
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 8: against the overall decision, but that's a ball where you're

1271
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 8: I'm gonna put it somewhere where it's going to take

1272
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 8: a really nice catch by Evan to go run and

1273
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 8: get it. And I'm going to take away the negative.

1274
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 8: It might not it might be an incomplete pass, but

1275
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 8: it's not going to be an interception. And that ball

1276
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 8: was just slightly underthrown, where.

1277
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson said to the Atlanta slipped out of his

1278
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: hand a little bit.

1279
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 7: I don't know, Yeah, it.

1280
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 8: Was just I mean, but listen, I mean, come on,

1281
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 8: it's like I wouldn't worry about that. Yeah, I mean,

1282
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 8: it's like, Okay, it's not the start you want, But

1283
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 8: who cares.

1284
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: The coach can't come out and say, oh who cares?

1285
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: Like he's got to he's got to put it out.

1286
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not saying Doug's gonna say that, but

1287
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 8: I'm saying, overall, you look at the big picture.

1288
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 7: If anything, that's a great learning experience for you.

1289
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 8: I mean, Trevor's still a young player, and so it's like, okay,

1290
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 8: learn from it, which he has proven he does. And Okay,

1291
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 8: the rest of it, you know, was fine. I mean,

1292
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 8: they didn't do much. They were very, very plain, and

1293
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 8: there was nothing. There's no creativity and stuff, and and

1294
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 8: then they're you know, and then they're behind apall a

1295
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 8: little bit because they lose the long snappers, so they're

1296
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 8: going forward on every fourth down, every two point conversion,

1297
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 8: so on and so forth. But overall, you know, you know,

1298
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 8: after that, you know, the three and that was doing

1299
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 8: disappointing thing. You want to get it, you know, especially

1300
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 8: when you're where you are backed up a little bit,

1301
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 8: you want to get You want to get at least

1302
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 8: for one first time. That was like the big negative

1303
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 8: to me. You're playing against backups. You don't want to

1304
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 8: ever go three and out with the offense we have,

1305
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 8: and I think if you're being critical at all, that

1306
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 8: would be the one point that I would make. And

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Speaker 8: then defensively, first defense was fine. They did a good job,

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Speaker 8: I thought. You know, there were some nice rushes by

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Speaker 8: Robert Robertson Harris. That was a nice rush. Josh Allen

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Speaker 8: had a nice one hand you know, one hand bull

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Speaker 8: leverage rush, got pushed. Trayvon had a good inside move

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Speaker 8: on a twist, got up the ball.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: Most of it was short, you know, short drops, so

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Speaker 8: there wasn't a lot of time to get there, So.

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Speaker 7: I thought that was good.

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Speaker 8: You know, Devin Uh, Devin Hamilton continues to do good

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Speaker 8: things out.

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Speaker 1: There, Devon Hamilton, Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, I was That's what I was thinking. I was

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Speaker 8: going there next with Devin Lloyd. Sorry, Devon Hamilton.

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Speaker 7: Devon Uh.

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Speaker 8: He didn't play a lot of snaps, but he looked

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Speaker 8: way more comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Said, that's what Pete said to He played like nine steps.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you watched.

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Speaker 8: Them there, it was smooth like he was like, first

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Speaker 8: of all, he made some great plays in the run.

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Speaker 8: He stuffed the full back and I mean really physical,

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Speaker 8: and then I just watching his drops and he didn't

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Speaker 8: have a bunch like to your point. So I'm not

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Speaker 8: gonna say everything's fixed, but it looked it just looked natural.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't look like the baby deer with the

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Speaker 1: legs like trying.

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Speaker 8: To and he got back and made a sure tackle.

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Speaker 8: You know, it was a bang bang catch drop right there.

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Speaker 8: It's what you want. So I thought that was super positive.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Tony, let's come back. Let's let's finish that thought.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll finish the linebacker. We got

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Speaker 1: to talk about the corners too, and especially that third

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Speaker 1: corner spot. There's a lot going on there, but we're

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Speaker 1: we come back as well, it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented

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Speaker 1: by Mister Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we got have a lot of depth.

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Speaker 4: This is, you know, since I've been here, Definitely the

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Speaker 4: deepest we've been. I would I would argue every position,

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Speaker 4: but definitely a receiver. You know, we got a lot

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Speaker 4: of a lot of really good players. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be tough. You know, it comes down to the end.

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Speaker 4: You know who's getting those last spots. And we got

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Speaker 4: a lot of really good players. And that's why preseason

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Speaker 4: is big. To see guys who makes the plays, you know,

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Speaker 4: when it counts, when points go on the board in

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Speaker 4: these in these real games. Uh, you know, so it's

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Speaker 4: it's cool to see guys making plays. We have a

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Speaker 4: ton of guys making plays out there night, you know, Oliver,

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Speaker 4: Elijah Jerre shoot. I mean a bunch of other guys.

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Speaker 4: Snoop made some good plays. Q on the scramble there

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Speaker 4: at the end touchdown obviously, Nate and a lot of

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Speaker 4: guys on defense too. So it's cool to see those

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Speaker 4: guys battling and you know, doing everything they can.

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Speaker 1: It's Trevor Lawrence, of course, discussing many of the offensive

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Speaker 1: players making the big plays in Dallas and welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings

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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with Hall of Famer Tony Vasselli recapping the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars win over the Dallas Cowboys. Looking ahead in just

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Speaker 1: a few moments. We'll keep it real when we look

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: ahead to the Detroit Lions. The joint practice is Wednesday Thursday,

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Speaker 1: then the game of course Saturday. Our discussion Tony continues

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars defensive side, and we were starting with

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, but that also kind of creeps into the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars secondary too. We know the outside at least starters

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Speaker 1: at corner. The question is that third corner and did

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Speaker 1: you what did you see out of some of the

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Speaker 1: names that were kind of thrown into that group. I agree,

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Speaker 1: Junior Antonio Johnson's been thrown in there as well by

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Just a couple of names of many

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Speaker 1: who are fighting braswell as another guy. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: did you what did you take from the game in Dallas?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and I heard Pete say it earlier.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Gregory and Junior is interesting. I mean, he's

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01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 8: obviously a guy who's around the wall, and you saw

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Speaker 8: that in the game against Dallas. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 8: But I'm with Pete like, like, you'd love to see

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Speaker 8: him cover like I don't remember watching it and seeing

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 8: a lot of opportunities with him in the slot in

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 8: like a covered situational and a man. And then you

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Speaker 8: saw at the end of the game, Uh, the young

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 8: guy who got the interception does a good job sitting

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Speaker 8: in the zone and kind of reading the quarterback's eyes

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Speaker 8: late in late in the game.

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Speaker 7: I'm drawing a blank right now, sorry, j.

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Speaker 8: So he made nice place. Trey Herndon makes some nice plays.

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Speaker 8: You know, it looks like they're gonna play a lot

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Speaker 8: more zone. That's clear, at least they did in that game,

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Speaker 8: because I mean, if Trey's out there, he's good against

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01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 8: the run and he's a smart player, but you know,

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Speaker 8: I think you get exposed a little bit just because

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Speaker 8: of the speed when you're playing Nickel. I mean, when

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Speaker 8: you're playing if you want to play any man coverage

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Speaker 8: and we know they want to blit, so that puts

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Speaker 8: you know, basically his own books team at that point.

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Speaker 8: So I I do think it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 8: I thought, you know, the corners, who who who made

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Speaker 8: the nice break in the ball should.

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Speaker 7: Have been to pick six?

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Speaker 1: Oh Campbell, wasn't it?

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Speaker 8: I can't. I think I thought some I thought some

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Speaker 8: of the young guys.

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Speaker 1: Flashed by the way it was. It was Braswell who

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Speaker 1: had the interception.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Brad, well, thank you. He did a good job.

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Speaker 8: It was easy just dropping in the zone. But he

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Speaker 8: does a good job of keeping his eyes on the

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Speaker 8: quarterback from that position and good break on the ball.

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Speaker 8: And that's you know, that's what you want to see

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Speaker 8: out there. You want to see guys make plays, react,

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Speaker 8: do what you're asking him to do.

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Speaker 7: And he did it, did it perfectly.

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Speaker 8: So I mean, I think if you look at it,

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Speaker 8: I mean who the Nickel is is definitely a big

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Speaker 8: question mark.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's.

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Speaker 8: Gonna be one of saying, you know, as you're looking

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Speaker 8: at the roster, you know, you know you got your

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Speaker 8: two outside guys right now, But who gives you the

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Speaker 8: most flexibility as far as when it comes to coverages,

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Speaker 8: meaning you're comfortable.

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Speaker 7: I think they're just gonna be more comfortable in his

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Speaker 7: own this year.

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Speaker 8: Overall. That's the feeling you get. And then well, obviously

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Speaker 8: you want to put in some man schemes in there.

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Speaker 7: But who can play the nickel?

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Speaker 8: I don't think that you're going to see a lot

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Speaker 8: of man covers and tray hern in there if he wins,

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Speaker 8: if he wins that.

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Speaker 1: Job in the zone stuff to you gotta be able

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Speaker 1: to tackle though, right because guys are gonna make catches

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Speaker 1: and zone and then yeah, you got to run absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't do overall last year. They've talked about it.

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Speaker 1: They got to be a better tackling defense as a whole.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean this defense got good at the

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Speaker 7: end of the year. JP.

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Speaker 8: If you remember, you know, they were good early, pretty

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Speaker 8: good early, and then they got good down the stretch.

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Speaker 7: And what was the common denominator? It was turnovers. It

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 7: wasn't like they got a bunch of stops.

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Speaker 8: You know, Now in the Charges game, they did obviously,

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Speaker 8: and when they got down a couple of times, they

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Speaker 8: got you know, Ravens Cowboys, they got stops when they

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Speaker 8: needed to. So I'm not taking that away from them

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Speaker 8: by a means. But they became an opportunistic football team,

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Speaker 8: getting the ball to the ground, picking it up, making plays,

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Speaker 8: and that's great. It's hard to count on that though

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Speaker 8: throughout the season. You want to be a ball hockey team.

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Speaker 8: You want to strip the ball, and you saw that

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Speaker 8: again against Dallas. I thought they'd did a good job

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Speaker 8: with that, but you guys still, who's going to be

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 8: the disruptor? Who's going to disrupt on defense? And that's

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Speaker 8: the big question mark. Now we didn't get a chance

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Speaker 8: to see much because it was early, But that's why

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the practice in Detroit. I want

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Speaker 8: to see how our front seven goes against a good

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Speaker 8: offensive front.

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Speaker 7: All right, well coached.

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Speaker 1: That leads us, Tony. It's like you've done radio before.

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Speaker 1: That leads us into keeping it real presented by Woodbridge

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Speaker 1: by Robert MUNDAVII Open up a winner today, real ingred

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Speaker 1: a producer Tony. That's how apt that lead in was

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Speaker 1: to this segment. What matchup are you most excited to

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Speaker 1: see in Detroit this week? Is it the Lions defensive

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Speaker 1: line versus the Jags O line. Is it Jaguars rushers

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Speaker 1: against the Lions tackles, or is it Mark Brunell versus

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli.

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Speaker 7: It's not the last.

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Speaker 8: One, so we can take that off the cord. The

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Speaker 8: only part I'm looking forward to is just hanging out

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Speaker 8: with my good friend a little bit and seeing him

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Speaker 8: out on the field and hopefully, uh.

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Speaker 7: Maybe after hours, spend a little.

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Speaker 8: Bit of time with him, having a couple of bottle

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Speaker 8: of waters and talking and talking shop.

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Speaker 7: The That's a great question, because I want to see both.

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Speaker 8: I want to see Aiden Hutchinson against Bob Walker Little

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Speaker 8: and Anton Harrison.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's gonna be fun. That'll be good.

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Speaker 8: And they got that other rookie last years, like a

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 8: fifth to sixth rounder who ended up hitting Trevor if

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 8: you remember hit Trevor Low late in that game. He

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Speaker 8: was a sneaky good pass rusher if he looked. He

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Speaker 8: didn't get a lot of reps and came on late

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Speaker 8: in the year, and I think he got like six

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Speaker 8: or seven sacks by the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Was it Houston, Yeah, Houston, James Houston.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's an undersized guy, but really good leverage,

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01:14:55,640 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 8: good speed. He he was a little bit of a

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Speaker 8: problem for us last year if you remember that. And

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Speaker 8: it wasn't just for us. He got he got. He

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Speaker 8: had some production in the back half of that year

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Speaker 8: for the Lions on defense without a lot of reps.

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Speaker 8: But I want to see eight touches against.

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Speaker 1: Those seas And was it him or was it Josh Pascal?

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Speaker 1: There was two of them they had to in.

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Speaker 7: The what was it? What number was Houston? I think

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Speaker 7: it was Houston. Hang on, Okay, sorry, I'm asking you questions.

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Speaker 7: You know. So that's uh, that would be fun. But

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Speaker 7: and then seeing seeing Josh.

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Speaker 8: Allen and Trayvon Walker against Penay and uh uh Decker.

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Speaker 7: There are two good tackles.

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Speaker 8: And today, you know, just reading stuff up there, it's

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Speaker 8: had a really good camp and so you know, he's

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Speaker 8: an athletic big man coming out of Oregon rookie rookie

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Speaker 8: two years ago. He's a good player and and so

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to seeing that. That'll be a lot

1521
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 8: of fun. And that'll be a good test for both

1522
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 8: Trayvon and Josh because those are Decker and Pine are

1523
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 8: two good tackles.

1524
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 7: I mean, they're really good players. Yeah, and if we

1525
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 7: can get.

1526
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 8: Something going there one on one, the one on one

1527
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 8: pastor should be fun. But then you know, in team situations,

1528
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 8: you know, you're you know, they're gonna run a.

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 7: Two minute drill stuff like that.

1530
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 8: Would like to see us get some wins because I

1531
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 8: think they're you know, built in confidence and get a

1532
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 8: good mindset going in.

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 1: By the way, well James Houston ten is number forty

1534
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: one for them and for the season last year had

1535
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: ten tackles with eight sacks. Yeah that's the guy.

1536
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 7: That's the kid. Yeah, that's the kid.

1537
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: Out of Jackson State.

1538
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's uh, he's a natural pass rusher.

1539
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 8: So I think, you know, I know, keeping it real,

1540
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 8: I'm supposed to pick one, but I'm gonna take both.

1541
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 7: I want to see. It's to me, it's watching those

1542
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 7: lots of the.

1543
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 8: Line, both lines, because you have Detroit's done a good job,

1544
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 8: especially offensive line.

1545
01:16:58,960 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 7: Eight Hutchton.

1546
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 8: Obviously, the big conversation last year was him or Trayvon.

1547
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 8: We took Trayvon Hutchinton had a nice Rokie year was

1548
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 8: productive and and I think.

1549
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see, you know.

1550
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 8: How how our young tackles match up against a good

1551
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 8: pass rusher and then the Houston kid.

1552
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 7: You know, eight sacks? How many guys on our team

1553
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 7: at eight sax? Like?

1554
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: None? Right? None, no, none of the above. That was

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Speaker 3: Thank Ross Ross injured his right shoulder you know on

1570
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: the special teams play making.

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 5: The tackle there.

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine.

1573
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 3: He'll just be a little bit. So he's kind of

1574
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,839
Speaker 3: day to day and we'll see how he is in Detroit,

1575
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 3: you know, this week, but probably you know, probably leaning

1576
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 3: towards holding him out.

1577
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 7: If he's if he's if he's sore.

1578
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to have any setbacks with

1579
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: with him at this point. But day to day, we'll

1580
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 3: see here see where he is at the end.

1581
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: Of the league, I said coach Doug Peterson earlier today

1582
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: asked about the long snapper Ross Madison who made a

1583
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: force fumble and then that's where he heard his shoulder.

1584
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: The day to day but apparently day to day enough

1585
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: to sign Carson Tinker, who was on the streets. Former

1586
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: Jaguars long snapper is back. He was on the practice

1587
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: field today and there were it was funny Tony before

1588
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: practice today, him out there, walk out because practice was

1589
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: this afternoon. I didn't get to stay for the whole

1590
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: thing to come in for the show. I'm out there

1591
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: right before stretch. There's a lot of guys out there

1592
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: early and there's you know, Josh Peterson's out there again

1593
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: trying to just kind of snap a few just to

1594
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: you know whatever. This is not the coaches aren't around yet.

1595
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: This is before stretch, and here comes the rookie full

1596
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: back from Houston to try a few. And here comes

1597
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: like another tight end. Hey, let me get a Everybody

1598
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden wants to try a long snaff

1599
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: and then Carson Tinger walks out. It's like, yeah, I'm

1600
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: the long snapper. Guys, We're good. You guys are okay,

1601
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: It's all good, but you gotta have one.

1602
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 8: If I was a fullback or a backup tight end,

1603
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 8: I would spend a whole off season to figure how

1604
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 8: to snap, because I mean, you know, it's a tough

1605
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 8: situation for Josh Peterson that he was put into, That's

1606
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 8: no doubt about it. I mean that's you know Doug

1607
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 8: was going. You know, Doug was probably saying to himself like, Okay,

1608
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 8: I don't need to have a bad operation and get

1609
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 8: my punter or anyone hurt back there. And secondly, I

1610
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 8: don't need to go home and hear from his mom

1611
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 8: that I put put her son out there in a

1612
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 8: bad situation.

1613
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: On the over and over and over again, right over

1614
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: and over again.

1615
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 8: I appreciate what Doug did. I'm like, you know what,

1616
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 8: it was the right football decision for the team, and

1617
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 8: it was probably the right you know which Thankfully it

1618
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 8: worked out as the right decision for going home that

1619
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 8: night too.

1620
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 7: So it was a.

1621
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 8: Tough situation for Josh. But like a perfect example. I mean,

1622
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 8: this is something you know, word staking about Josh Peterson

1623
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 8: at this point. But if you're a backup tight end

1624
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 8: or a fullback or something, I mean, just think about this.

1625
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 8: Let's say, Josh, it's a skill and not everyone can

1626
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 8: do it. So I'm just using Josh as an.

1627
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 7: Example here, But if you would have gone out.

1628
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 8: There and been ninety percent of what the starter was

1629
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 8: ross was well, now all of a sudden you're like, oh,

1630
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 8: wait a second, this guy has value because he has

1631
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 8: the ability to fill a gap that if he's you know,

1632
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 8: good enough tight end and maybe it comes down to

1633
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 8: him and someone who might be just slightly better than him,

1634
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 8: but he has a skill that gives us comfort tonight.

1635
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 8: And that's the same thing for the young, young fullback

1636
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 8: or any of those guys going out there. I think

1637
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 8: it's smart. I would tell any you know, any young

1638
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 8: guy who's you know, fighting to make a roster. Go

1639
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 8: learn how to long snap, and if you can do it,

1640
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 8: take the time and get good at it, because that

1641
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 8: gives you the ability to be versatile.

1642
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 7: Look at I mean, look at Shatley.

1643
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 8: Shantley has made a career, yes, and now he started

1644
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 8: last year and did a good job as a starter

1645
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 8: in my opinion.

1646
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 7: But he's a guy.

1647
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 8: He's the backup long snapper. You have confidence he can

1648
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 8: do that. He can play center, he play both guards.

1649
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 8: He's reliable. You know that he's not going to go out.

1650
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 7: There and kill you in the sense of he knows

1651
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 7: what to do.

1652
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 8: He's solid, he's a good football player, and look at

1653
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 8: the He's had a long career and done very well

1654
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 8: for himself because of that versatility. So I think it's

1655
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 8: it's a lesson for every young player. You never know

1656
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 8: what's going to happen, and if you have utility and

1657
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 8: multiple multiple positions, you become You made yourself much more valuable.

1658
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But you know it still

1659
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: takes time and you're right, tony if you have that skill,

1660
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: though not everybody has that skill. That's why you go

1661
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: out and get a guy on the street who was

1662
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: playing co ed softball. Okay, we'll bring him in.

1663
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 8: What I felt terrible for Josh Peterson. I was I

1664
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 8: was sitting there watching, you know, watching that game, going

1665
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 8: I have rooting hard for this kid.

1666
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 7: I was hoping he could. I was hoping he could.

1667
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 8: Just sling it back there. And you know, because you know,

1668
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 8: it's a tough situation. You're you're fighting, you want this

1669
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 8: is your dream to play football, and you know people

1670
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 8: are out there like, oh, you're out here because your

1671
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 8: dad's head coach and all that nonsense. It's a bunch

1672
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 8: of you know craft. He wouldn't be out there if

1673
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 8: he couldn't do it. And and so I was rooting

1674
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 8: hard for him. I'm like, come on, come on, let

1675
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 8: him sling one back there. And then then he sailed

1676
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 8: that one to It was clear from that point on

1677
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 8: Doug made the decision. It's like, we are going for

1678
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 8: it if it's even like, I don't care unless we're

1679
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 8: backed up inside our own probably thirty or twenty, which

1680
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 8: they never ended up never ended up happening. You know,

1681
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 8: they were going to go for it, that's regardless, because

1682
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 8: it's just not the risk because you're you're asking someone

1683
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 8: to do something that they're not comfortable with. And that's tough,

1684
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 8: that's not fairy. Is a good coaches never asked a

1685
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 8: player to do something they just aren't prepared to do because.

1686
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: They act so many other people too, right, I mean

1687
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: it affects the punter, okay, and then all of a

1688
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: sudden there's guys illegally downfield, there's a penalty. It's like

1689
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: all that combines well, because.

1690
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 8: It's not just snapping, it's snapping, it's protection, it's everything else.

1691
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 8: And now you're putting your one of your better players,

1692
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 8: you know.

1693
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 7: You're punter, who's a great player. You know he's he

1694
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 7: does so much and like, why would you risk that?

1695
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 8: So I thought it was really smart by Doug to

1696
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 8: make that decision.

1697
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 7: And uh, it was tough.

1698
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 8: It was tough, and but you know what, that's what

1699
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 8: preseason's for and no harm, no foul. You go get

1700
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 8: Carson Tinker, a guy you know who can do it,

1701
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 8: and we'll see what's Ross's status is. Shoulders go?

1702
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: It seems like it. Doug Peterson made it seem like

1703
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't a long term issue for Matti six, So yeah,

1704
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: and at least for Carson Tinka. Hey, let's get a

1705
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: game on tape and see what happens. The team sees

1706
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: him still he's he still out there, and then you

1707
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 1: never know. As the season goes along and we'll see

1708
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: what happens there. The Tinker's there to handle it at

1709
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 1: least this week. Moving ahead, we'll come back in a moment, Tony.

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Speaker 1: We'll wrap the show this week with fanatics, fan questions

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Speaker 7: Seah. I think they're pretty good. That quarterback's good.

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01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Now quarterbacks Williams, Yes, really good.

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01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 8: Last year they got they got a bunch of transfers,

1734
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 8: you know, in this new world of free agency in

1735
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:58,919
Speaker 8: college football.

1736
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 7: A couple of SEC.

1737
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 8: Guys, a couple a couple of Georgia guys.

1738
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Want I mean the whole the quarterbacks a transfer two

1739
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: years ago.

1740
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean Lincoln Riley's not afraid to go

1741
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 8: out and snatch players from the places.

1742
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the wide receiver was too. I mean

1743
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: they the whole thing is that's the way of the

1744
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: world now.

1745
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's not. It's not the college football you.

1746
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 8: And I grew up with.

1747
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: Georgia is a number one looking for a three peat.

1748
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: There's only been officially one team or the last team

1749
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: to do it. Let's put it this way. It was

1750
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties Minnesota won three straight championships. It's

1751
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: been a while.

1752
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, Michigan, they didn't even play everyone, but I mean

1753
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 8: it wasn't even real.

1754
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Have no idea, No, no, Michigan, Ohio State Alabama two,

1755
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: three and four. All right, let's do it. Let's do

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01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: the fanatics fan questions. To wrap up the show, Jacks

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Speaker 1: on X we've come up with at Unbiased Jag. Does

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01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Rurke have a real chance of taking QB two from Bethard?

1763
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he has a chance, but I don't

1764
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 8: think so, because, I mean, your backup quarterback is a

1765
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 8: guy that you want to know that can fill in

1766
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 8: and finish a game, and Bethard's a veteran, and I

1767
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 8: think having a veteran presence in that room is probably

1768
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 8: good for Trevor as well. He's seen a lot, he's

1769
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 8: been around. Now, I'm not taking anything away from Rourke.

1770
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 8: The play he made was pagulous. And now there's a

1771
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 8: new rule this year JP, if I'm not mistaken, you

1772
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 8: can keep three quarterbacks. It does eat a roster spot,

1773
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 8: but you can keep him active.

1774
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: On game death emergency quarterbacks.

1775
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 8: So is there a situation where Rourke he makes the

1776
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 8: roster long shot, but it wouldn't shock me if he continues.

1777
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 8: You know, he's got to play great in the next

1778
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 8: two preseason games because he has a skill set. He's

1779
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 8: at he's mobile, he can buy time in the pocket.

1780
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 8: He's a gritty, competitive guy. So he did himself well.

1781
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 8: But I still think it's a it's a long, it's

1782
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 8: a it's a it's a big hill to climb JP

1783
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 8: for him to beat out Bethar.

1784
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: Next question at DJ Delphonik. Hey, Pete, this is for Pete,

1785
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: but this is a fantastic Tony question. How did Walker

1786
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,440
Speaker 1: little look against the Cowboys?

1787
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 8: Fine, it wasn't great, but it was fine for a

1788
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 8: fine first preseason game. He gave him the edge on

1789
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 8: a twist. He got a little over, a little top heavy, but.

1790
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 7: I thought he looked he's fine. He moved in space.

1791
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 8: Well, he had a couple of ice you know, they

1792
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 8: had a little kind of post crack where he got

1793
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 8: out there leading the way solid on his past sets. Yeah,

1794
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 8: in the short amount of time he was out there,

1795
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 8: I thought he.

1796
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Looked fine moving along at Tony Bee's henchman, did you

1797
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars will go out and sign a veteran

1798
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: pass rusher before the season starts or just go into

1799
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: the season with what we have.

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01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 8: Well, they brought Jadavian Clowney in today. He left without anything. Yeah,

1801
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 8: he didn't do get me too excited. He only had

1802
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 8: two sacks last.

1803
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 7: Year, nine years before.

1804
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 8: But he's you know, he's a veteran body who is

1805
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 8: a big, powerful guy. I think they're gonna keep their

1806
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 8: eyes open. I think they you know, the one thing

1807
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 8: we didn't talk about, and I don't know if you

1808
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 8: and Pete talked about JP Chase on Brice didn't see

1809
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 8: much did We did a lot of We got a

1810
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 8: lot of explosiveness. There's nothing that just jumps out at

1811
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 8: you when you watch him. I know Abdula had the sack,

1812
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 8: but there was I didn't see a lot of quick twitch.

1813
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 8: You know, but now it was early first game, so

1814
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 8: I'm not making a judgment about a duel. I mean,

1815
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 8: he was a good pass rusher in college, Joe. I'm

1816
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 8: looking forward to seeing him in the next two preseason games.

1817
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: To your point, Tony twelve snaps for chaise On and

1818
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: he's not on the defensive statuet. He didn't have a tackle.

1819
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 7: I mean I watched it. I just didn't.

1820
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 8: I mean it's just I didn't see anything like even

1821
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 8: if he have zero stats, I didn't see like any explosiveness.

1822
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 7: I didn't see any like right stressed.

1823
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 8: I didn't seem stressing anybody. So and then you have

1824
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 8: ninety two, the kid who's been hurt for Tyr's Jordan

1825
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 8: uh Uh Jordan Jordan Smith. Jordan Smith, Jordan Smith. He's tall, tall, lanky,

1826
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 8: you know, but you know he's a guy who's been hurt,

1827
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,520
Speaker 8: so you gotta see what you gotta got there.

1828
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 7: Long story short, I think their eyes are open.

1829
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 8: They're not against bringing in a pass rusher that was

1830
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 8: proven the last two days with Clowney BNN. I think

1831
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 8: a lot of it's going to come down to how

1832
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 8: do these young guys have to chase On and the

1833
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 8: rest of the group after Trayvon and Allen, do they

1834
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 8: do anything?

1835
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 7: Do they give them anything?

1836
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 8: And one preseason game and practice, you know a lot

1837
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 8: of questions.

1838
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,520
Speaker 7: So JP, hey.

1839
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: Does not that they brought in Clowney just for a

1840
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: motivational tactic for the other guys. But it could work

1841
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: that way, right, Hey, maybe open some eyes. Hey, wait

1842
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: a minute, they're bringing guys in now we got to

1843
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: step it up.

1844
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 8: Well, well, if you're not motivated at this time, you're

1845
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 8: a backup, then you have really you have other issues.

1846
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 8: That's true, But don't put that again, don't put that,

1847
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 8: you know past Trent Balke.

1848
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 7: I mean, Tom Coffin was famous.

1849
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 8: Every Monday throughout the entire season he would bring in

1850
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 8: guys to work out, and basically the message was is

1851
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 8: he was looking to improve the bottom half of the

1852
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 8: roster at all times. And so yeah, I mean, I

1853
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 8: think it does send a message. But you shouldn't have

1854
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 8: to send a message at this point to guys like

1855
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 8: Chase On who's fighting for his NFL career after being

1856
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 8: a first round pick, Abdullah you know, mid to late

1857
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 8: draft pick, trying to make the team, Jordan Smith and

1858
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 8: guy has been hurt, hasn't you know, in the year three.

1859
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 8: So if they need a message, you got other issues

1860
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 8: going on. I mean the big question is dun smooth.

1861
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Yes, right, what is It's gonna be a while, Tony,

1862
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a while. It feels like.

1863
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 8: It does feel that way, Jap. I agree with you.

1864
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 8: No official word. He's on the puff and so you

1865
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 8: don't have to give an official word right now, but.

1866
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: Just move around, Tony like it's going to be a minute.

1867
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 7: I agree with you.

1868
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think you count on him probably

1869
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 8: the first part of the season, maybe the first half

1870
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 8: of the season, by the time he gets in shape

1871
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 8: and gets his legs underneath him, and then you wonder

1872
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 8: how much explosiveness did he lose with that Achilles that

1873
01:33:58,120 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 8: The good thing is the way they're doing Achilles now,

1874
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 8: it's much It's a much better surgery than it used

1875
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 8: to be. So I still think I mean the big like,

1876
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 8: if you were going to say one of the two

1877
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 8: biggest questions on this roster, it's pass rusher, especially depth,

1878
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 8: because I think you have two good starters.

1879
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 7: Now, are they? I mean I have him down a

1880
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 7: twenty three to twenty five.

1881
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,839
Speaker 1: Dollars you know, guy, Yes, yes, that's right.

1882
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 7: That happens.

1883
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 8: I will be throwing a parade and rubbing it in

1884
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 8: everyone's face. But after that, who do you have?

1885
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 7: JP?

1886
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 8: Where you? I mean, who's your like? I just think

1887
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 8: about it. In a seventy play game, who are you

1888
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 8: putting out there rotating in? I mean last year it

1889
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 8: was they call it a four man rotation with Trayvon, Josh, Allen, Dwant,

1890
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 8: Smoot and arden Key.

1891
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right.

1892
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 8: Tell me who the four are right now?

1893
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 1: Well, the starters and then Abdullah is going to have

1894
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: to step up and play, and then your force up

1895
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: for grabs, right.

1896
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 7: Or right now? It's Chase on all.

1897
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Right, right now? It would be him, yes, so yeah.

1898
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 8: And then the second and in the second part position

1899
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 8: is nickel? I think it's nickel and pass rusher, more

1900
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 8: pass rush or depth?

1901
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 7: But who's the nickel?

1902
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 8: And who your top four ends or outside backers.

1903
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with one final question today, and this

1904
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: is from that coach Yost CP. Half the Jags fan

1905
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: base is blocked by Pete Briscoe because he's been nothing

1906
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 1: but negative for years and years, and whenever anyone calls

1907
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: him out for being nothing but a negative fancy he

1908
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: blocks them. I don't see a question in there.

1909
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 8: Anywhere, but I wish Pete was here for this, because

1910
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 8: Pete is famous for blocking people.

1911
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 7: JP. How many people have you blocked on.

1912
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 8: X in your entire life being on there?

1913
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, maybe like five ten? Maybe an X

1914
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 1: here or there, you know, doesn't need to see what's

1915
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: going on all that. Maybe five to ten.

1916
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 8: Well, I've been married for twenty eight years, so I

1917
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 8: don't have any exes that were around when when X

1918
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 8: was even a thought. So I think I've got a

1919
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 8: total of one or two that blocked just because they

1920
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 8: were just profane, vicious, just you know, nasty. Pete will

1921
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 8: block you at the drop of a hat. And I

1922
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 8: think our ex poster has a point there, and I

1923
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 8: think Pete should unblock all JAG fans from his Twitter feeds,

1924
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 8: all of them. And I think it's gonna be It's

1925
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 8: gonna be something I will be bringing up next week

1926
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 8: once we figure out how to get us both on

1927
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 8: the show at the same time, which I know the

1928
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 8: team's working on.

1929
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 7: And the you know, we got a new studio, so

1930
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 7: be patient with us. It'll be great in this season.

1931
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 7: It's be a great show as usual.

1932
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 8: And Max and peek Ab and Day. They're all doing

1933
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 8: hard work right now, get everything ready for us. But

1934
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 8: I will bring that up to Pete because I think

1935
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 8: it's downright cowardly. Yeah, that Pete Prisco blocks people because

1936
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 8: he doesn't like thet He can't handle the heat.

1937
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 5: He can't handle the heat.

1938
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: Pete, get out of the kitchen, Tony. The highest rated

1939
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: part of the show is the first seven minutes of

1940
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: hour two. I must say tonight, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco,

1941
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: our entire crew. I'm JP Shadwick. We will catch you

1942
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: next time. Jaguars are headed to Detroit tomorrow against the Lions.

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01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.