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Speaker 1: Scarable Advicello. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice host Shooter.

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Speaker 1: Joining us every Tuesday's our friend Delanne Dixon, m d

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Speaker 1: Are you there? I am, good morning? How are you

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Speaker 1: this morning? Morning? My friend? I heard you were doing

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Speaker 1: a documentary or a big TV show about Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? It is true. So basically I did

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Speaker 1: a documentary for RTL Network in Germany. I spoke about

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and Michelle Obama and just about race relations

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Speaker 1: in America. It was pretty deep, but it was a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. And they came all the way here

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Speaker 1: to Augusta, Georgia to interview me, so I couldn't believe

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Speaker 1: it. It It was great. They should they go all that

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Speaker 1: way for Beyonce, so why not? Misda? Congratulations. It just

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Speaker 1: goes to show you, as well as the silly gossip,

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Speaker 1: we do actually know a little bit of stuff. We

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Speaker 1: can be a little bit deep too, But don't worry,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to do that on today's show. It's

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Speaker 1: all celebrity gossip. Because what time is it, mister you,

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Speaker 1: It's time. So we have a brand new breaking story

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show. It just got put

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Speaker 1: into the show minutes ago. I got the reporting from

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Speaker 1: my team in l A. Last night I'm Dancing with

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Speaker 1: the Stars, I love saying that Carrie, Anna and Harbor,

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Speaker 1: one of the judges, showed off a very new summer

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Speaker 1: saying strange, look, my sources are telling me it's actually

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Speaker 1: Tyra Banks that is behind this new image. So tyres

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Speaker 1: taken over the show. She's not only the host of

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Speaker 1: the show, she's the boss. She's the executive producer, which

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Speaker 1: means basically she is in charge. The ratings keep getting

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Speaker 1: bigger and bigger each week. It's a huge success. As

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Speaker 1: the ratings grow, so does Tyras power. And whenever you

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Speaker 1: start a new job, you have to tread a little

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Speaker 1: bit carefully. Maybe Tyra didn't tread that carefully at all.

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Speaker 1: But now with the ratings success, she's feeling comfortable. Now

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Speaker 1: she's adding more changes to the show and one of

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Speaker 1: the big things she wants to change spice up is

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Speaker 1: the look of the show. Remember, Tyra is a very

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Speaker 1: or was a very successful model. Fashion is her life.

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Speaker 1: It's so important to her. Tyra is convinced that if

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Speaker 1: the gentlemen are wearing as much as the dancing. So

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Speaker 1: Tyra's literally behind the makeover of Carrie, and she did

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Speaker 1: look different. I sort of loved it. She was in

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Speaker 1: this new wig, a very futuristic costume dress. I like

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Speaker 1: all the changes. What do you think about this mystery?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a job where you've had to

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Speaker 1: change your look to make the boss happy? Absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: favorite look of all time. But I got a certain

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Speaker 1: job and I was called into an executive's office, a

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Speaker 1: black woman, and I was told, well, we kind of

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Speaker 1: So I had to actually get a wig. And that's

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Speaker 1: why Mr d loves her wigs now. But it was

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Speaker 1: a little shocking. I've never been told that I needed

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Speaker 1: maybe considered a little bit more ethnic, um to look

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Speaker 1: each day, but it was being strange being guided or

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Speaker 1: I guess in show business it's a little bit different,

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Speaker 1: and Tyra might be onto something here. I must have Mitch, I,

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Speaker 1: Stars for many, many years. I really enjoy it now

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Speaker 1: with tire A full disclosure, I used to work for Tyres,

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Speaker 1: so I know her quite well. I do enjoy tuning

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Speaker 1: in every Monday at eight o'clock to see what Tires

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Speaker 1: the glamor do you, Misda you I love when you

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Speaker 1: put on your glamorous and sparkly outfits. And I mentioned

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Speaker 1: So what's the fastest way to look younger in Hipper?

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Speaker 1: Change your hair, change your clothes. And so if Tyre

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Speaker 1: What what are you working on? Miss team? What's going

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Speaker 1: of sad news. It's about Taragi p Henson, but she

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Speaker 1: has split from her fiance Kelvin Hayden. So now the

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Speaker 1: it yet. But it didn't work out, And she gave

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Speaker 1: reasons why. She said, Look, I tried. I was like therapy,

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Speaker 1: not taking on you on yourself and that's not a

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Speaker 1: fair position for anyone to play in a relationship. And

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Speaker 1: she said this, which is so important. My happiness is

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Speaker 1: not his responsibility and his is not mine. Now, Kelvin

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Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic. So, I mean, Rob, it's so hard to

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Speaker 1: keep a relationship going. Um, what are your secrets for

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Speaker 1: you and Bruce? I really like Bruce, and I always

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Speaker 1: say lissen people laugh. If you want a happy marriage,

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Speaker 1: marry somebody that's happy. Yes, do. If you're marrying somebody

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Speaker 1: that's not a happy person, you're not going to have

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Speaker 1: a happy life. Bruce didn't make me happy. I was

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Speaker 1: already happy before I met him, and he was already

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Speaker 1: I think that's the secret to not only my success

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Speaker 1: is I know not only do I know who I am?

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Speaker 1: I've I've took a while, but I like who I am?

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Speaker 1: Where are you on this mystery? It's it's difficult, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I've been spending a lot of time just doing

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Speaker 1: the work. Yes, we all are amazing. And also to

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Speaker 1: David Letterman, he was a big host on CBS for years.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know him still. He retired, but he's

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Speaker 1: now doing his own show. I think it's on Netflix,

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Speaker 1: you misjudged Kim yourself? Well, if you think about when

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Speaker 1: times we wonder why, and that's who she's become. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: So David let him and misjudged Kim Kardashian. Did you

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Speaker 1: hear your results. Talking about Twitter, what's going on with

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Speaker 1: she's deleted her Twitter accounts. So she went live on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and explain how she's been feeling after facing some

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Speaker 1: backlash following reports that she reconciled with Offset. So, like

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Speaker 1: I said, she just announced another divorce in September, and

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Speaker 1: gotta continuously explain myself. Cardie, Like I said, you make

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, Offset got some girl pregnant. And she

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Speaker 1: specifically said in September, look, I'm not leaving him because

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Speaker 1: but her Instagram is still up and she's got the

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Speaker 1: Brazilian followers, so it's okay. Yeah, I don't understand why

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Speaker 1: don't know, does that make any sense? It doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot of logic there to me. Well,

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