WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: ’Shown Improvement?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Monday, November eleventh, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>episode number sixty five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show. Nick is now kick Yeah, both

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<v Speaker 3>of them like that. I didn't see to exactly. We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Detroit game last night. He had two

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<v Speaker 3>kicks exactly that, like both just kind of scurred it

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<v Speaker 3>right inside the upright. And that game was a good

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<v Speaker 3>game though. That was a really really good game, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just kept thinking, the team will be here next weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good team right there. Both these teams are

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<v Speaker 3>I think created in that same image of just tough.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll battle you, they play physical like it's it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be an interesting game. But we'll get to all that.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got plenty of time to talk about that this

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<v Speaker 3>week as we get read extra day. Yeah we do,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a Monday night game. So but but today

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<v Speaker 3>it is our job to break down what we saw yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys go down to the Eagles thirty four to six,

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<v Speaker 3>a game that I you know, there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of games this year where in my opinion, the score

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really reflect what you saw in the field. And

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<v Speaker 3>to me, yes today was a similar thing, but for

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<v Speaker 3>different reasons. Because what I saw from the defense in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half, I mean the first half to me,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't reflected in the score. I thought the defense played

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty good game. But Philly put up thirty four points.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of that came on turnovers by the offense,

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<v Speaker 3>but they put up thirty four points. What would be

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<v Speaker 3>the storyline of the game for you guys, Let's start

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<v Speaker 3>with you, Broy.

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<v Speaker 4>It was I think that they found something with overshown

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<v Speaker 4>as a rusher. I know we talked about it here

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to try in a thirty four to

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<v Speaker 4>six shellacking. I'm not gonna sit here and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and just beat down something that's already beat down. This

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<v Speaker 4>team is not good enough. You saw it. Your talent

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<v Speaker 4>coren area, especially right now at quarterback. You just can't

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<v Speaker 4>compete with the quarterbacks you have. You know, you've had

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<v Speaker 4>some problem. He had to make a spot start at

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<v Speaker 4>offensive tackle. The left tackle. Kid did a great job.

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<v Speaker 4>He had one bad play, had one bad play that

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<v Speaker 4>ended up being a sack. But we've talked about on

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<v Speaker 4>this show. Okay, now start to focus on some things,

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<v Speaker 4>some positive things for some young players, or some scheme

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<v Speaker 4>things you see different. I really appreciate the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Zimmer came up with a scheme that really confused

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<v Speaker 4>Hurts when it came to the double a gap look

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<v Speaker 4>with the blitz putting three linebackers in the middle and

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<v Speaker 4>then rushing one of them drop two and then mixing

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<v Speaker 4>up who they were going to rush. So you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about positivity about as far as maybe some

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<v Speaker 4>defensive stuff that going forward overshown as a pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a gut feeling that this guy and what's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of unfortunate for him is the touchdown right before

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<v Speaker 4>the half. He's got Hurts dead to rights and he

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<v Speaker 4>usually doesn't miss in space like that. He just overrat

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<v Speaker 4>He was so fast, I mean nobody picked him up

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<v Speaker 4>and so he was so fast it hurts and Hurts

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<v Speaker 4>did a really nice job of just what you see

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<v Speaker 4>how many times we watch quarterback drills in training camp.

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<v Speaker 4>We always work on, you know, taking the ball and avoiding,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what Hurts was able to do. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking at this, I'm looking at him as such a

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<v Speaker 4>positive light on something that's been so wrong all year,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and I'm looking at I'm looking at awesome

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<v Speaker 4>Richards getting a start at left tackle when now, how

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<v Speaker 4>much reps did he really get? Maybe he got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of reps because of the the next problem, the

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<v Speaker 4>next shoulder problem with Geyton, But he went out there

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<v Speaker 4>and played a whale of a game. I mean, Mozzie

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<v Speaker 4>Smith actually had three really good snaps where he looked

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<v Speaker 4>like an NFL defensive tackle. You know, He's like extending,

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<v Speaker 4>gets rid of Cam Jerg and just throws in basically

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground, stops it up. You know, makes a

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<v Speaker 4>player or two. You know, those are the things I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking for now because I know this team's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I just know they're not good enough, and the storyline

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<v Speaker 4>is always going to be especially this year. The margin

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<v Speaker 4>of error is so small. You just can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you just can't, you know, have anything. They can't. Nothing

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<v Speaker 4>comes easy, but the margin mirror is really small. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>your kid out there at left corner, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>double move is killing him. Now he's now fighting that

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<v Speaker 4>where they've realized that, Okay, you can't throw it at

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<v Speaker 4>Digs because Digs makes a damn good play. They got

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what they wanted on the route. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a touchdown. Digs is just like, nah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not. It's very similar to what Branch did to

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<v Speaker 4>Dak in the Detroit game. It's like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>your eyes aren't overlooking at that flat, it's looking inside.

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<v Speaker 4>Hurts did the same thing and Digs made a hell

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<v Speaker 4>of a play. So you know, those are the things

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<v Speaker 4>you just kind of, you know, you kind of look

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<v Speaker 4>at as a positive aspect from the team. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it does it's no good right now, just to can

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<v Speaker 4>this team is what it is. You just now have

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out what are the pieces going forward With

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of time left. I mean, there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of games I just don't feel they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>do very good. But at least I'm going to now

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<v Speaker 4>take the approach of like, Okay, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have your quarterback, find me the players that

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be part of this future, and see

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<v Speaker 4>how they play the remainder this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yesterday for me marked the end of my grieving

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<v Speaker 7>period of like, Okay, now I'm in acceptance and this

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<v Speaker 7>is what we have and this is what it is,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's it. Like yesterday, and I remember you post

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<v Speaker 7>a question whether we should start looking into the draft

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<v Speaker 7>and all that last week, but I was curious to

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<v Speaker 7>see if anything would change as far as the game

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<v Speaker 7>plan for the offense, and with you having a different quarterback,

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<v Speaker 7>that did not change. You showed up with basically the

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<v Speaker 7>same exact game plan and no adjustments, not type of

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<v Speaker 7>any type of creativity. We've been talking about that word

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<v Speaker 7>all throughout the season, but there was nothing different. Like,

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't seen Mike McCarthy do anything different as far

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<v Speaker 7>as a play caller, and when he has, like for example,

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<v Speaker 7>that package that he threw Trey Lensing for the first time,

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<v Speaker 7>it was like, what what are we doing here to

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<v Speaker 7>It was interesting, but it's just okay, you've accepted this,

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<v Speaker 7>outcome this and now you go into game. As far

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<v Speaker 7>as me, you go into game just relaxed and looking

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<v Speaker 7>for those moments, those exciting moments.

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<v Speaker 2>That will occur.

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<v Speaker 7>And it just goes to show once again, despite of

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<v Speaker 7>what some people think about Micah Parsons, he's still a

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<v Speaker 7>very important key player to these to this defense. It

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<v Speaker 7>is very clear when he's on the field versus when

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<v Speaker 7>he's not on the field, it changes everything. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think the way that they used the marming overshown was

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<v Speaker 7>clearly a new light there. And with the combination of

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<v Speaker 7>Micah Parsons, I think it makes me feel more excited

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<v Speaker 7>into like, hopefully Micah's future is here in Dallas and

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<v Speaker 7>maybe the combination of this two together is an exciting

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<v Speaker 7>piece for this defense looking forward. But also it just

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<v Speaker 7>goes to show how important having a pass rush is

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<v Speaker 7>to your game, and this is something that the Cowboy's

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<v Speaker 7>defense has been lacking all year long, and it just

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<v Speaker 7>changes everything. It's unfortunate that your defense did basically all

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<v Speaker 7>they could do for you. But yet once again, you

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<v Speaker 7>can all get into the end zone. You cannot score touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 7>The offense is just unable to generate any kinds of

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<v Speaker 7>points other than those two field goals by Brandon Aubrey.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't.

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<v Speaker 7>There's only so much you can ask a defense when

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<v Speaker 7>your offense is playing the way that it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And they are gonna get tired.

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<v Speaker 7>They did everything they could in the first half, So

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<v Speaker 7>the second half, I mean, I'm not getting.

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<v Speaker 4>Mad at the stop coming out of half. They went

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<v Speaker 4>three and out coming out of half, and you're thinking like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you could find a way to get something going.

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<v Speaker 4>I think your assessment is absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. The interesting thing is if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the defense, there really was only one point of consistent

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<v Speaker 3>failure in my opinion right now, that was the corner

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying position wise, that was the cornerback. They

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<v Speaker 3>kept going to the same spot because they that's where

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<v Speaker 3>they can go. But when you talk about the running game,

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<v Speaker 3>which we talked about last week, they didn't really have

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of day on the ground that you quarter

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<v Speaker 3>are going to have. The quarterback killed you more. And

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<v Speaker 3>I asked that question last remember I said, which one

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<v Speaker 3>do you worry more about in the rushing game, and

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<v Speaker 3>but I think that it was clear that they had

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<v Speaker 3>a good game plan for how to bottle up Saquon

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<v Speaker 3>Barkley a great day against them, But it was really

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<v Speaker 3>more about that cornerback position. And that's where I look

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<v Speaker 3>at this defense and I'm like, for me, the defense

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<v Speaker 3>this year is all about injuries. The story of what

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen is all about injuries. You give them both

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<v Speaker 3>their cornerbacks, you give them their defensive ends, you give

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<v Speaker 3>them the linebackers, and what they could have figured out

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<v Speaker 3>with overshown, I think this defense plays a much different season,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think they're okay. The baffling thing for me

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<v Speaker 3>was what we saw yesterday with the offense and what

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<v Speaker 3>we've really seen all season with the offense, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge let down from the standpoint of what they

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<v Speaker 3>were last year to what they are this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Rush looked like a guy that never started in

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<v Speaker 4>an NFL game yesterday. Yeah, you know, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>the unfortunately shot by that. Yeah I am, because to me,

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<v Speaker 4>when he came off the bench against Atlanta, man a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful throw down the down the field of ceedee lamb

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden it's CD. It just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it gets too far. They had one to Tolbert. Those

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<v Speaker 4>too far, I didn't understand. To me, that looked like

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that was very nervous about And maybe he

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<v Speaker 4>was nervous. Maybe you've talked about the offensive line all

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<v Speaker 4>year about it's the ability to protect, and maybe he

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<v Speaker 4>was worried about Ausome Richards over there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's like get the ball. I'll get the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. But there were a couple of times where

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<v Speaker 4>that he didn't get the ball out, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a veteran quarterback dropping a snap, a simple

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<v Speaker 4>shotgun snap. They've got the play block. But you go

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<v Speaker 4>back and watch it. They got the play blocked. It's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a toss going to the right. They

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<v Speaker 4>got the thing blocked. He just catched the ball and

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<v Speaker 4>hand it and hand it to or flip it to Dabble.

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<v Speaker 4>That's going to be a positive play. But yeah, they

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<v Speaker 4>to me, you know, you look at the interception that

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<v Speaker 4>they had, the interception that that that Lance threw. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got no business throwing that ball because to me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's one of those things Tobert is just

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<v Speaker 4>getting mugged. I mean, there's just I mean, you're thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna win one on one ounce and that was

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<v Speaker 4>a backup corner. You know, that's that's ringo that he's

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<v Speaker 4>going on the backup corner. And he still didn't separate

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<v Speaker 4>off that. You know, he's getting mugged the whole way

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<v Speaker 4>down the field. And you know, Lance throws the ball

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like going why And then you know that

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned Ambar about the stuff in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 4>the fumble. You know, the fumbles happens. Even if even

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<v Speaker 4>if he holds onto the ball, they're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 4>holding call on span Fod. It's going to now make

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<v Speaker 4>it second in you know, second and thirteen from the

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<v Speaker 4>you know thirteen. So I mean it's it's our second

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<v Speaker 4>goal from the thirteen. They just can't they can't stay

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<v Speaker 4>out of their own way. I mean, they can't. They

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<v Speaker 4>just can't. It's it's just hard for them to do

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<v Speaker 4>anything with any I mean, the one they have like

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<v Speaker 4>one drive a game where they look like an NFL offense,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the rest of the time it's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's just it's it's just disheartening. YEP, it really is

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<v Speaker 4>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna take our first break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk a little bit deeper about Cooper

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<v Speaker 3>Rush and if what you saw yesterday was more of

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<v Speaker 3>a reflection of the game plan, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there were a lot of quick, quick check down type

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<v Speaker 3>routes that they were running. Or do you think there

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<v Speaker 3>were some opportunities downfield that he just didn't see, they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't choose to take, or the pass rush got to him.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that when we come back. Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk a little bit more about the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been able to watch the full game back,

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<v Speaker 3>I've gotten about halfway through it. One thing that I

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<v Speaker 3>did notice was that it seemed like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the routes that they were running, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>plays that they ran were designed plays to get the

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<v Speaker 3>ball out quick. Is that what you've seen as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you think this was a situation where that

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<v Speaker 3>was the game plan? Because maybe it's because of Austin

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<v Speaker 3>Richards and they were a little afraid. Maybe it's because

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<v Speaker 3>of the whole offensive line, because offensive line hasn't been

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<v Speaker 3>great all year.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Or is it a situation where there were opportunities downfield

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<v Speaker 3>and and and Cooper just missed them.

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<v Speaker 4>There weren't many opportunities down the field. They didn't try

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<v Speaker 4>to throw the ball down the field. It was very

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<v Speaker 4>reminiscent of the Atlanta game plan, where everything was short

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<v Speaker 4>and hopeful run after catch. So there really wasn't anything

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<v Speaker 4>of some you know, those massive deep shot. The one

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<v Speaker 4>deep shot that they did take down the field. They well,

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<v Speaker 4>they tried one on third down to Brooks that bounce.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Cooper had a ball that was short, another ball

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<v Speaker 4>that was short to Brooks. On the other sidelines. He

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<v Speaker 4>had Ceedee Lamb open on a on a vertical route

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<v Speaker 4>that they they missed. But other than that, everything was

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<v Speaker 4>zero to nine and hope that maybe you get a

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<v Speaker 4>broken tackle and get more yards out of it. Everything

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty much quick at the quick, the curls, the hitches,

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<v Speaker 4>some drag stuff, but nothing that that would give the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 4>They they must have been really, really, really nervous about

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<v Speaker 4>this pass rush, but I think for the most part

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<v Speaker 4>they held up pretty pretty well, you know, for the

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<v Speaker 4>pressures and stuff that they were a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 4>like I say, we're you know that the one sack

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<v Speaker 4>that that Austome Richard gave up. It was his worst

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<v Speaker 4>technique of the game. You know, he was over the

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<v Speaker 4>tops of his feet, he was overextended, he couldn't adjust,

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<v Speaker 4>and it happened to be a sack.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's you know, that's that they they needed to

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<v Speaker 4>have something planned to go more down the field. I

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<v Speaker 4>wish they would have tried to keep on running the

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<v Speaker 4>ball a little bit more, but you know, the game

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<v Speaker 4>gets out of hand for him. And once the game

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<v Speaker 4>gets out of hand for him, then Mike turns into Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to throw it now, but we're not throwing

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<v Speaker 4>it with any any type of purpose. You threw it

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<v Speaker 4>with some purpose when Rush came in in the Atlanta game,

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<v Speaker 4>because you had no choice. Well, yesterday it just it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a very good game from recognition and acory standpoint.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there was a time where they just remembering

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<v Speaker 4>they run a route inside there. They had a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weird plays where they run the ball. You remember

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<v Speaker 4>CD runs and doesn't see he doesn't turn around and

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<v Speaker 4>get the ball. It's like they're running a screen. They're

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<v Speaker 4>setting up a screen and Cooper rushed through it. Like

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<v Speaker 4>it was a regular route.

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<v Speaker 3>And CD was actually looking he was.

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<v Speaker 4>Blocking the block, and you got lineman peeling out and

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<v Speaker 4>a bat and you got Dabele is like checking and

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<v Speaker 4>then going to his right, and now the ball is

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<v Speaker 4>being thrown over the middle of the field and Lamon

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<v Speaker 4>even looking for the ball, and you're like, going, the

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<v Speaker 4>hell was that busted play? But everybody else is running

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<v Speaker 4>screen but the quarterback right, so you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the one guy that needs to run the screen

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<v Speaker 4>is not running the screen. And then he had the throw.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a double they had a double end cut.

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<v Speaker 4>He threw the ball too high to Tobart early in

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<v Speaker 4>the game. It almost got intercepted h Tolbert's open and

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<v Speaker 4>if he doesn't like Tobert, he's got Turpin right behind that.

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<v Speaker 4>And a throw that he made in the Atlanta game

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<v Speaker 4>on four down inside to get a first down. He

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<v Speaker 4>passed on it, but he threw the ball way too

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<v Speaker 4>high and over the top of Tolbert's head. He just

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<v Speaker 4>looked like a quarterback that it was making his first start,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's unfortunate because he's he's played quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>When you when you think about, you know, for a

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<v Speaker 4>backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, there's some type.

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<v Speaker 7>Of disconnect happening there because and we again we talked

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<v Speaker 7>about it last week. You expect your backup quarterback to

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<v Speaker 7>be ready to go and not looked like that, especially

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<v Speaker 7>for a guy like him who has done it before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I the crazy thing to me is that there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't It didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Look like a big, like much of a drop off

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<v Speaker 7>between your starter deck and then Cooper Rush and then

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<v Speaker 7>Trede Lance to add him to the mix. And that

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<v Speaker 7>just goes to show One, I'm not gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 7>the play calling because I keep mentioning that I've hated

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<v Speaker 7>the play calling all year long. But two, it once

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<v Speaker 7>again illustrates your point, Derek, with this offensive line, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not trying to put everything on them, because obviously

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of it falls back into the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 7>some of the decisions that they're making. But at the

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<v Speaker 7>same time, it seems like you need so much protection

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<v Speaker 7>in order for you to try to get anything going

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<v Speaker 7>for this offense. And whoever the quarterback is behind that line,

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't know how you solve this quickly. It's

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<v Speaker 7>not gonna happen. It doesn't seem it's gonna happen this year,

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<v Speaker 7>even though there are moments where you see players have

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<v Speaker 7>good blocking and all of that. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just I think maybe this is something that is

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<v Speaker 7>starting to be just creating some panic mentally that you

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<v Speaker 7>feel like you're gonna get attacked, somebody's gonna come brushing,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's just like it doesn't allow you to fully

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<v Speaker 7>focus on what you need to do and like fully

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<v Speaker 7>look at what's happening on the play and on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's so many layers to this.

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<v Speaker 7>Because then that leads me to think, also, while we've

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<v Speaker 7>talked about the separation and the wide receivers, the receivers

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<v Speaker 7>trying to find some separation. So it's just like a

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<v Speaker 7>crazy combination of everything happening all that once.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think, and this is me just looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the separation issue, if you want to just focus

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<v Speaker 3>in on that, I don't think the types of routes

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<v Speaker 3>that they're being asked to run lead to situations where

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to get much separation. They run a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of stick routes, a bunch of just like it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>they're not designed like there was a Philly played a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of men yesterday, and I'm like, why are they

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<v Speaker 3>not doing more crossing routes to be able to take

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of that. But even when they did run crossing routes,

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<v Speaker 3>it was one of those situations where a quarterback early

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<v Speaker 3>in the game, there's one crossing route I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was CD, and he had some separation. Yea quarterback never

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<v Speaker 3>saw him, never got the ball to him. By the

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<v Speaker 3>time he did get the ball to him, it was

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<v Speaker 3>a little too late the defender it caught up. And

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like, there's always something that kind of messes

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<v Speaker 3>up whatever you're trying to do. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 3>have they don't run enough routes consistently enough. They give

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<v Speaker 3>their wide receivers an opportunity to create separation, and then

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<v Speaker 3>when they do, quarterback doesn't see it in time, don't

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<v Speaker 3>get the ball out, or pressure gets there sack right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like there's always something. But I don't think the

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<v Speaker 3>separation issue is just about receivers not being able to

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<v Speaker 3>get free. I think a lot of that is about

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<v Speaker 3>how they're they're what they're being asked to do, the

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<v Speaker 3>routes are being asked to run.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a scary thought we've already started talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>draft and Travis Hunter from Colorado. Yeah, you just even

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<v Speaker 4>wonder if if you had if you had Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 4>in this offense, would you be able to run routes

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<v Speaker 4>to take advantage of how good he is playing on

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<v Speaker 4>the move? I think there's there's some there are some issues.

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<v Speaker 4>You do not have a two on this, but you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You just don't, you know. And and when you look

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<v Speaker 4>at you know, when you look at it, though, they

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<v Speaker 4>need somebody that's really more explosive than what they've got.

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<v Speaker 4>The the thought of maybe, well, you know, well, it's Cooks,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Tollbird, it's Brooks, it's it's really just Lamb, it's

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<v Speaker 4>they They they might have to completely relook at this

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver room and it but they might look at

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<v Speaker 4>it and then they might not be able to completely

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<v Speaker 4>turn it over. But it might turn into maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>different and and and we'll see, We'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the year. Because somebody might come

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<v Speaker 4>in here and have an idea of like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 4>is how I would use this is how I would

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<v Speaker 4>use Tulbert, or this is how I'd use Turpin, or

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<v Speaker 4>this is how I would use lamb. You know, they

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<v Speaker 4>they they You're right, the stick routes, the hitches, the

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<v Speaker 4>the curls. There's nothing that gets these guys on the

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<v Speaker 4>move where you know. I mean, like I said, the

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<v Speaker 4>one that passed that they got guys on the move,

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<v Speaker 4>the passing over through the middle of the field of Tolbert,

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<v Speaker 4>they had him and Turpin both breaking inside and both

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<v Speaker 4>are open. So all of a sudden you get separation.

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<v Speaker 4>You get what you want, but you can't complete the

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<v Speaker 4>pass yep, you know what that's That's sometimes the issue

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<v Speaker 4>here that you actually get something you want, but then

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<v Speaker 4>something else happens to keep the play from being We've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about some of these screen passes, like if they

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<v Speaker 4>could just complete the screen, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>huge game. But no, they don't get the block they need,

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<v Speaker 4>or the guy the back sets inside instead of setting outside.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a lot of things with this team.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, another play where I think route running and

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<v Speaker 3>recognition got got someone open and then the play just

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<v Speaker 3>fell apart. Was the play that everybody's talking about with

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<v Speaker 3>the light that Yeah, if you notice, if you watch Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 3>Ferguson actually ran a really good route there because he

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<v Speaker 3>was going out, he was double covered. He quickly shot

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<v Speaker 3>back in side. That's why he was where you supposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was designed like well. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he went back to an open space and he probably

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<v Speaker 3>could have cut that ball, I think, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>back into an open space. If the quarterback throws him

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<v Speaker 3>and hits him with that pass, that's a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>It's easy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a great route. Recognizing he has double covered,

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<v Speaker 3>you keep going outside and you have double coverage, shoot

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<v Speaker 3>back into the inside, and that's what he did, and

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<v Speaker 3>it just ends up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, it's funny because he was double covered and

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<v Speaker 4>I think the rush wanted to go to him initially

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<v Speaker 4>and he and he got caught. He saw the flash

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<v Speaker 4>of or cd CD went from shadows into a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of sun to being all my son to being

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<v Speaker 4>on the sun or the light, right, I'm sorry, just

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<v Speaker 4>the light. But so if you if if the if,

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<v Speaker 4>the if the throw off the jump is cd CD

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<v Speaker 4>in the before he gets to the light, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>touch right, because so now he's in between and I

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<v Speaker 4>think Cooper got caught in between. Do I throw it

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<v Speaker 4>to Ferguson because of the double coverage or whoa wait

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<v Speaker 4>a minute, and now he's kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>doing one of those, and you know, Lamb is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like, honestly, you know, it was tough. It was

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<v Speaker 4>tough down there, It really was.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it just this feels like one of those things

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<v Speaker 7>that you start pointing out one thing, but then that

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<v Speaker 7>thing leads you to another thought, and it's just another

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<v Speaker 7>thought and then you just keep going in the same

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<v Speaker 7>vicious circle that you're just start going crazy, like there's

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<v Speaker 7>no easy, quick solution here and it's just not one

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<v Speaker 7>piece or there's so many different components and like, like

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<v Speaker 7>you said, that's a clear example. And we've seen another

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<v Speaker 7>one that when they or also we talked about this

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<v Speaker 7>on the break, I think on the actual break between commercials.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we're on the break.

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<v Speaker 2>We are on the break.

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<v Speaker 7>But this whole thing, like when they do have something

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<v Speaker 7>that's kind of working for them, they stop and it's

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<v Speaker 7>just like it just doesn't make.

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<v Speaker 4>It any Philadelphia was having some problems during the year

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<v Speaker 4>of defending the draw and then the nineteen yard run

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<v Speaker 4>you had was a draw play because they're so they're

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<v Speaker 4>so conscious of getting up the field and then you

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<v Speaker 4>get blockers in place, and then you know you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a tough runner and you know they're able to gain yards.

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<v Speaker 4>But there were some opportunities you just you just it

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<v Speaker 4>gets away from you. And I can say that that

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<v Speaker 4>affects the play caller.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to ask you guys about what happened with

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<v Speaker 3>the package for Trey Lance. We'll talk about that when

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<v Speaker 3>we come back, and we got it before we end

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<v Speaker 3>De marveon overshowing that man just had a day yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in the first half. We'll talk about that when

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back. Final segment of the Break live from the

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<v Speaker 3>SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Let's talk about Trey

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<v Speaker 3>Lance yesterday when he got into the game, his four

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<v Speaker 3>six sixty seven percent completion rate, only twenty one yards passing,

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<v Speaker 3>one interception, thirty two point six rating.

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<v Speaker 4>He took, He gambled, he did, He gambled that his

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<v Speaker 4>guy was going to get there, and this guy just

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<v Speaker 4>could not get there.

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<v Speaker 3>But he did have three carries for seventeen yards. My

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<v Speaker 3>question was more no, why to me? Yeah, exactly, But

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<v Speaker 3>my question was more why was the timing weird for

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else when they decided to get him in Because

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<v Speaker 3>we've been talking all week about the possibility of a package.

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<v Speaker 3>My thought is it's a critical down. My thought is

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the red zone. My thought is, like, there

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<v Speaker 3>are moments in the game where it makes sense to

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<v Speaker 3>trick it up a little bit starting a series, bringing

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<v Speaker 3>him in for two plays where one of them he runs,

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<v Speaker 3>which okay, great, and the other one he hands the

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<v Speaker 3>ball off. Felt a little weird to me.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you guys think you got anything?

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<v Speaker 7>Embar just random that just okay, you know, things just

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<v Speaker 7>come out of my mouth sometimes be careful. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 7>just one of those things that you just say, nothing

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<v Speaker 7>is working. Let me just throw him in there and

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<v Speaker 7>see if it were like it just goes to me,

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<v Speaker 7>it just illustrates the how do you say when you're

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<v Speaker 7>not prepared, the lack of preparation, the lack.

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<v Speaker 2>Of you knowing your team and.

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<v Speaker 7>What your strengths and weaknesses are, like that just is

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<v Speaker 7>just you trying to make something out of nothing, but

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<v Speaker 7>without a plan, just hoping that something will work out.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's just to me, just illustrate its lack of

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<v Speaker 7>preparation there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that it's it's difficult because you were

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<v Speaker 4>behind and maybe the opportunity. Now, let's be honest, so too,

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen Trey Lance down in the red zone and

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<v Speaker 4>training camp, and we've seen him in preseason games and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and it hasn't always been successful. Maybe where maybe where

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to put Trey Lance in there is once

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<v Speaker 4>you've got the ball down there, you know, the Zeke

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<v Speaker 4>fumble that maybe that would have been the opportunity, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let's let's see how well they really defend the read

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<v Speaker 4>option here. You know, let's see if they can. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're throwing something different. You're thinking, oh, it's Cooper, gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be Cooper Rush. We're going to put you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>have to defend the pass. All of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 4>throw a her ball at him and you say, Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's the thread of he's going to ride it,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna crash, and now he's gonna walk in. That's

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<v Speaker 4>where I would have tried to do something with Trey Lance,

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<v Speaker 4>just maybe. But it might also be where they're thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen not great things. I mean, the Vegas game

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<v Speaker 4>was one of his better games when it came to

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with that. It looked like it was a much

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<v Speaker 4>more improved player than it was against the Rams, which

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<v Speaker 4>again another preseason game. But if you're in your mind,

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<v Speaker 4>you're thinking, God, could he make a mistake down here? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you knew that Zeke was going to fumble the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>you would have probably just said, well, just go and

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<v Speaker 4>play Trey Lance and let's see what see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you have to kind of find ways two

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<v Speaker 4>a way to have used him in certain situations where

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<v Speaker 4>it made it like, okay, let's put the thread of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a third and two where it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you never really got in these situations. Seemed like there

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<v Speaker 4>were a lot of long yard situations yesterday. So I

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<v Speaker 4>would have kind of just tried to find spots where

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 4>it made sense to maybe make the Eagles have to

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 4>defend the run and the pass right and instead of

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 4>just putting him in. But to me, now, I'm interested

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 4>in playing him the rest of the way. And I'm

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 4>interested in playing him the rest of the way and

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 4>then trying to run a college offense. Make people have

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 4>to prepare for the read option, make people have to,

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, to do some things. You know, with his

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 4>running him that design run, he had direct snap drop back,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, direct snap drop back, boom, eleven yards. All right,

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 4>here we go. That's design runs. Those are good plays,

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, those are I think those are what we

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 4>need to see going forward with Cooper Rush. I I

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 4>just I just the upside of it there, I don't

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 4>see it. I would rather give me more options, more

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 4>elements to maybe moving the football. And that's why I

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 4>think I would play.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Trailer because I feel like we know what Cooper Rush is.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he and he was an that that I didn't

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 4>recognize that guy yesterday though, But again I.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 7>Think some of it attributes to the offense in general

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 7>being so often what he had then and you know

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 7>that was very different from that year when he was

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 7>being the backup during Dax's injury. But with Trey Lance,

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 7>there is a whole unknown yet that we have. We're

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.240
<v Speaker 7>still we still have quite a few question marks around

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 7>him and hoping to see maybe at some point it

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 7>starts clicking. Because he does have an arm like he

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 7>he can make he can throw some really good passes,

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 7>but it's just so inconsistent. And then you add into

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 7>the mix his ability to run. That's another thing that

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 7>I thought there was a lack of usage yesterday. What

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 7>I would have liked to see more intention behind it.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the way the way to maybe beat Philadelphia yesterday

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 4>was running the football. And if you could have done

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 4>it with Trey Lance and then done it with Rico

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 4>Daddle you know, and maybe you've done it with some

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 4>jet sweeps with Turpin or whoever else that might have

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 4>been the way. Maybe it's not a thirty you know,

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe it's not a thirty four to six game. Maybe

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 4>it's a twenty one sixteen game or twenty four to sixty.

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 4>It's not a you know, something that looks because the

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 4>three and outs just kept killing the defense every time

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 4>that they went three and out. You know, I mean,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 4>here's McCarthy, they get the interception with Digs and they

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 4>go three and out and you're just like, you just

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 4>put your defense back out there after making a great stop.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 4>You don't even give them time to get a cup

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 4>of gatorade and catch their breath. You put them right

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 4>back out there again. And that's the unfortunate thing about

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 4>it is needed. They needed balance, and because we interviewed

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Tracy Wolfson from CBS before the game, and you know,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 4>she talks to the coaches and stuff, and that's the

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 4>one thing they're saying, Hey, we have to have some balance.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 4>These losses they just have no balance.

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, let's be honest too, Like I think

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 3>the probably because the team has played so poorly. I

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 3>think one of the major things about yesterday that really

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 3>hasn't been talked about, but to me is probably the

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing and why they lost is five turnovers. Yea,

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 3>like unless you're yeah, unless your a Lion's from last

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 3>night when that had figured out a way to get

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 3>a win on the road, Like you you have five

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 3>turnovers in a game and you lose the turnover battle

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 3>five to one, like the likelihood of you winning unless

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 3>you're just a really really good team, which Dallas has

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>not proven to be this year. Like that's that's the

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 3>story of the game. I mean that that defense just

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 3>got to put into too many bad situations for them

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 3>to continue to hold. And they were playing really well,

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 3>but when you're getting the ball, when the other team

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>is getting the ball on your twenty, like it's just like,

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 3>come on, there's not much.

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 6>You can do with that.

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 7>And that's the upsetting part. When you see your own

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 7>defense finally doing something getting the ball back for you

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 7>and you're still unable to do anything.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's exhausting. I can only imagine how

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>they felt.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 4>That after that interception that they got. They know, just

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.479
<v Speaker 4>get him two first downs, get you kill. Kill. About

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 4>five minutes off the clock, you know, six minutes off

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 4>the clock if you can and give the defensive chance

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 4>to regroup, you know, they but I will say is defensively,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 4>Mike Zimmer did some things yesterday that I was like

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 4>I said early in the opening that I liked with

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:18.879
<v Speaker 4>the blitz packages and I liked with him getting over

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 4>shown involved in they and they think so going forward,

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 4>that to me is a positive thing. Offensively, I can't

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 4>really think of anything other than the fact that Austome

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 4>Richard's on a probably on a spot start, played really

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 4>really well for at left tackle.

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of overshowing, obviously he had a really great game

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 3>that we don't know what the injury is. It sounds

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 3>like it's not that serious.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 4>He is the game. In the post, he sounded like

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 4>he was ready to be ready to play.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 3>He did come back in the game, he said. I

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 3>think it sounded more like they precautionary, precautionary thing to

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:49.959
<v Speaker 3>kind of just pull him for the fourth quarter, because

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 3>at that point they're like, it's not going to change anything,

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 3>but just looking at him and how they use him, Like,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 3>what are your thoughts about him for the rest of

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 3>the year, knowing that, like, how do you how do

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 3>you feel about a player like him who's relatively young.

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 4>He's a rookie.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Playing really well, right, playing really well, but you also

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 3>like you're putting him out there in games where you

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 3>know you're you're using him and using in a lot

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 3>of different ways. How do you worry at all about

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 3>his his health going down the street?

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 4>He plays nine hundred miles an hour. Matter of fact,

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 4>he there was a pass play that the one ball

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 4>on a third down that went to Berkley in the flat,

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 4>and and and then and Kendricks was kind of hesitating.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 4>Man thirteen comes flying from the middle of the field

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 4>and he misses the tackle and he blows up Kendricks.

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Kendricks is like standing and just got hit

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 4>by a car, you know, goes flying back. That's just

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 4>how this kid plays you you. You know, Mike even

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 4>talked about it after the game. How the energy that

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 4>he plays with, the passion that he plays with. You know,

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 4>that's just he's just a great example of what this

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 4>defense could be, you know, with him and Micah. You know,

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you Carl Lawson played well again for you today.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 4>So you know, you've got some guys that are really

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 4>on the defensive side of the ball. That gave some

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 4>great effort and unfortunately didn't work out for him. But

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 4>the thing with overshown, he plays so hard that there's

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 4>probably going to be games where he's sitting on the

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 4>field and you know, doctor Cooper and everybody in Britt

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Brown and Jim Mauer running out to make sure he's okay,

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 4>and then he's going to pop up. You know, that's

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 4>just how he plays. He's one of those types of guys.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, very very aggressive and one of the few bright

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 7>spots on the team right now. That gives gets you

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 7>excited because the great thing about him is him being

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 7>out all year last year, then coming back from the injury.

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 7>Since the moment he got back on the field, from

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 7>the beginning of the season, he's been impactful and he

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 7>the good thing. He's had bad moments too, we've seen that,

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 7>but again, his arrow keeps trending upwards. Everything since week

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 7>one till now, you keep seeing him improve and improve

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 7>and improve.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's just very very exciting to see that.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 7>And then now, like we talked about at the beginning,

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 7>with the addition of Mikey Parsons coming back and just

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 7>seeing what that looked like with those packages and seeing

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 7>how he can now start to shine in a different

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 7>way in this defense and create those pressures. It's just

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 7>it's amazing and it does worry me. I mean when

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 7>he was down there, I was typing something and I

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.439
<v Speaker 7>asked you there on my way, who's down he said overs.

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, oh my god. My heart stopped for

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 2>a moment there.

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 7>So it's one of those things that at this point, yes,

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 7>you worried completely because he's so aggressive in the way

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.720
<v Speaker 7>that he plays, and now, based on how the season

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 7>is trending, you know it is most likely not gonna

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 7>happen this year, so you don't want to.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Make him be out there.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 7>But then this is what they pay you for to

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 7>You know, you're you're gonna have to play. You gotta

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 7>get in there and keep playing.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>So it's just you. You're just gonna have to help it.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 7>By the way, Nick is not here today, but I

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 7>did see someone Remember when Nick decided to open his

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 7>mouth saying that over shown is the one that hasn't

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 7>gotten heard yet.

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Remember the moment that he jinx it. Someone twitted on

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>me saying that's a niggas.

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 7>So if if something ever happens, or we'll see if

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 7>he seems to be okay.

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 4>This is another good game too from Osa.

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's two in a row where.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>He well yeah, absolutely, all right. We appreciate you guys going.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 3>So we're back tomorrow. We'll get a bigger picture. Look, man,

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 3>talking about this NFC East is getting interesting. Thursday night

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 3>got a big NFC East matchup between the Commanders and

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the Eagles. That'll be I think that'll be for first

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 3>place in the division.

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Philly is a half game up right now. Washington's

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 4>not had their buy yet.

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Yep. All right, but uh, but we'll talk about a

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.479
<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff tomorrow. We'll have a lot of different topics.

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 3>We'll hit some player evaluation. There are a couple of

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>players I want to talk about that came out of

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 3>this game and how they performed in this game. We'll

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 3>do that tomorrow too. Then for Brian brodus inn Ambergarci,

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm Derek Gield and this has been The Break live

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