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Speaker 3: It is Monday, November eleventh, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 3: episode number sixty five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Nick is now kick Yeah, both

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Speaker 3: of them like that. I didn't see to exactly. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about the Detroit game last night. He had two

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Speaker 3: kicks exactly that, like both just kind of scurred it

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Speaker 3: right inside the upright. And that game was a good

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Speaker 3: game though. That was a really really good game, and

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Speaker 3: I just kept thinking, the team will be here next weekend.

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Speaker 3: That's a good team right there. Both these teams are

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Speaker 3: I think created in that same image of just tough.

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Speaker 3: They'll battle you, they play physical like it's it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be an interesting game. But we'll get to all that.

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Speaker 3: We've got plenty of time to talk about that this

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Speaker 3: week as we get read extra day. Yeah we do,

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Speaker 3: because it's a Monday night game. So but but today

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Speaker 3: it is our job to break down what we saw yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys go down to the Eagles thirty four to six,

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Speaker 3: a game that I you know, there's been a lot

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Speaker 3: of games this year where in my opinion, the score

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Speaker 3: didn't really reflect what you saw in the field. And

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Speaker 3: to me, yes today was a similar thing, but for

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Speaker 3: different reasons. Because what I saw from the defense in

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Speaker 3: the second half, I mean the first half to me,

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Speaker 3: isn't reflected in the score. I thought the defense played

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Speaker 3: a pretty good game. But Philly put up thirty four points.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that came on turnovers by the offense,

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Speaker 3: but they put up thirty four points. What would be

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Speaker 3: the storyline of the game for you guys, Let's start

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Speaker 3: with you, Broy.

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Speaker 4: It was I think that they found something with overshown

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to try in a thirty four to

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Speaker 4: six shellacking. I'm not gonna sit here and you know,

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Speaker 4: and just beat down something that's already beat down. This

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Speaker 4: team is not good enough. You saw it. Your talent

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Speaker 4: coren area, especially right now at quarterback. You just can't

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Speaker 4: some problem. He had to make a spot start at

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Speaker 4: He had one bad play, had one bad play that

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Speaker 4: ended up being a sack. But we've talked about on

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Speaker 4: this show. Okay, now start to focus on some things,

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Speaker 4: some positive things for some young players, or some scheme

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Speaker 4: to talk about positivity about as far as maybe some

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Speaker 4: usually doesn't miss in space like that. He just overrat

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Speaker 4: We always work on, you know, taking the ball and avoiding,

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Speaker 4: I just know they're not good enough, and the storyline

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Speaker 4: you're not. It's very similar to what Branch did to

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Speaker 4: you just kind of, you know, you kind of look

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Speaker 4: it does it's no good right now, just to can

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Speaker 4: take the approach of like, Okay, it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: You don't have your quarterback, find me the players that

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Speaker 7: Well, yesterday for me marked the end of my grieving

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Speaker 7: period of like, Okay, now I'm in acceptance and this

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Speaker 7: and that's it. Like yesterday, and I remember you post

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Speaker 7: that did not change. You showed up with basically the

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Speaker 7: I haven't seen Mike McCarthy do anything different as far

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Speaker 7: It was interesting, but it's just okay, you've accepted this,

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Speaker 7: for those moments, those exciting moments.

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Speaker 2: That will occur.

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Speaker 7: And it just goes to show once again, despite of

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Speaker 7: what some people think about Micah Parsons, he's still a

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Speaker 7: very important key player to these to this defense. It

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Speaker 7: think the way that they used the marming overshown was

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Speaker 7: clearly a new light there. And with the combination of

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Speaker 7: maybe the combination of this two together is an exciting

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Speaker 7: goes to show how important having a pass rush is

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Speaker 7: changes everything. It's unfortunate that your defense did basically all

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Speaker 7: they could do for you. But yet once again, you

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Speaker 7: can all get into the end zone. You cannot score touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: The offense is just unable to generate any kinds of

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Speaker 2: But you can't.

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Speaker 7: There's only so much you can ask a defense when

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Speaker 2: And they are gonna get tired.

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Speaker 7: They did everything they could in the first half, So

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Speaker 7: the second half, I mean, I'm not getting.

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Speaker 4: Mad at the stop coming out of half. They went

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Speaker 4: I think your assessment is absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: You know. The interesting thing is if you look at

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Speaker 3: a good game plan for how to bottle up Saquon

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Speaker 3: this year is all about injuries. The story of what

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Speaker 3: with overshown, I think this defense plays a much different season,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're okay. The baffling thing for me

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Speaker 4: the unfortunately shot by that. Yeah I am, because to me,

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Speaker 4: it gets too far. They had one to Tolbert. Those

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Speaker 4: too far, I didn't understand. To me, that looked like

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Speaker 4: a guy that was very nervous about And maybe he

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Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit deeper about Cooper

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Speaker 3: let's talk a little bit more about the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been able to watch the full game back,

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And do you think this was a situation where that

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Speaker 4: That's a good point.

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Speaker 4: There weren't many opportunities down the field. They didn't try

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Speaker 4: they tried one on third down to Brooks that bounce.

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Speaker 4: They they must have been really, really, really nervous about

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Speaker 4: But that's you know, that's that they they needed to

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Speaker 4: we have to throw it now, but we're not throwing

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a very good game from recognition and acory standpoint.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there was a time where they just remembering

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Speaker 3: And CD was actually looking he was.

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Speaker 4: hell was that busted play? But everybody else is running

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Speaker 4: They had a double they had a double end cut.

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Speaker 4: He threw the ball too high to Tobart early in

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Speaker 4: And a throw that he made in the Atlanta game

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Speaker 4: and that's unfortunate because he's he's played quite a bit.

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Speaker 4: When you when you think about, you know, for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's some type.

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Speaker 7: Of disconnect happening there because and we again we talked

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Speaker 2: And I the crazy thing to me is that there

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Speaker 7: Look like a big, like much of a drop off

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Speaker 7: the play calling because I keep mentioning that I've hated

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Speaker 7: and I don't know how you solve this quickly. It's

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Speaker 7: even though there are moments where you see players have

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Speaker 7: and it's just like it doesn't allow you to fully

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Speaker 2: But there's so many layers to this.

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Speaker 7: Because then that leads me to think, also, while we've

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Speaker 3: But I also think, and this is me just looking

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Speaker 3: they're going to get much separation. They run a bunch

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Speaker 3: of stick routes, a bunch of just like it's it's

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Speaker 3: they're not designed like there was a Philly played a

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Speaker 3: lot of men yesterday, and I'm like, why are they

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Speaker 3: not doing more crossing routes to be able to take

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Speaker 3: advantage of that. But even when they did run crossing routes,

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Speaker 3: it was one of those situations where a quarterback early

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Speaker 3: in the game, there's one crossing route I think it

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Speaker 3: was CD, and he had some separation. Yea quarterback never

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Speaker 3: saw him, never got the ball to him. By the

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Speaker 3: time he did get the ball to him, it was

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Speaker 3: a little too late the defender it caught up. And

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Speaker 3: so it's like, there's always something that kind of messes

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Speaker 3: up whatever you're trying to do. I don't think they

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Speaker 3: have they don't run enough routes consistently enough. They give

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Speaker 3: their wide receivers an opportunity to create separation, and then

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Speaker 3: when they do, quarterback doesn't see it in time, don't

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Speaker 3: get the ball out, or pressure gets there sack right.

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Speaker 3: It's like there's always something. But I don't think the

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Speaker 3: separation issue is just about receivers not being able to

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Speaker 3: get free. I think a lot of that is about

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Speaker 3: how they're they're what they're being asked to do, the

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Speaker 3: routes are being asked to run.

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Speaker 4: Here's a scary thought we've already started talking about the

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Speaker 4: draft and Travis Hunter from Colorado. Yeah, you just even

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Speaker 4: wonder if if you had if you had Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: in this offense, would you be able to run routes

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Speaker 4: to take advantage of how good he is playing on

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Speaker 4: the move? I think there's there's some there are some issues.

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Speaker 4: You do not have a two on this, but you don't.

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Speaker 4: You just don't, you know. And and when you look

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Speaker 4: at you know, when you look at it, though, they

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Speaker 4: need somebody that's really more explosive than what they've got.

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Speaker 4: The the thought of maybe, well, you know, well, it's Cooks,

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Speaker 4: it's Tollbird, it's Brooks, it's it's really just Lamb, it's

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Speaker 4: they They they might have to completely relook at this

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Speaker 4: wide receiver room and it but they might look at

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Speaker 4: it and then they might not be able to completely

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Speaker 4: turn it over. But it might turn into maybe a

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Speaker 4: different and and and we'll see, We'll see what happens

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Speaker 4: at the end of the year. Because somebody might come

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Speaker 4: in here and have an idea of like, Okay, this

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Speaker 4: is how I would use this is how I would

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Speaker 4: use Tulbert, or this is how I'd use Turpin, or

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Speaker 4: this is how I would use lamb. You know, they

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Speaker 4: they they You're right, the stick routes, the hitches, the

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Speaker 4: the curls. There's nothing that gets these guys on the

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Speaker 4: move where you know. I mean, like I said, the

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Speaker 4: one that passed that they got guys on the move,

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Speaker 4: the passing over through the middle of the field of Tolbert,

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Speaker 4: they had him and Turpin both breaking inside and both

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Speaker 4: are open. So all of a sudden you get separation.

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Speaker 4: You get what you want, but you can't complete the

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Speaker 4: pass yep, you know what that's That's sometimes the issue

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Speaker 4: here that you actually get something you want, but then

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Speaker 4: something else happens to keep the play from being We've

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Speaker 4: talked about some of these screen passes, like if they

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Speaker 4: could just complete the screen, it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: huge game. But no, they don't get the block they need,

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Speaker 4: or the guy the back sets inside instead of setting outside.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot of things with this team.

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Speaker 3: You know, another play where I think route running and

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Speaker 3: recognition got got someone open and then the play just

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Speaker 3: fell apart. Was the play that everybody's talking about with

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Speaker 3: the light that Yeah, if you notice, if you watch Ferguson,

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Speaker 3: Ferguson actually ran a really good route there because he

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Speaker 3: was going out, he was double covered. He quickly shot

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Speaker 3: back in side. That's why he was where you supposed to.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was designed like well. I think

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Speaker 3: he went back to an open space and he probably

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Speaker 3: could have cut that ball, I think, but he was

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Speaker 3: back into an open space. If the quarterback throws him

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Speaker 3: and hits him with that pass, that's a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: It's easy.

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Speaker 3: And it was a great route. Recognizing he has double covered,

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Speaker 3: you keep going outside and you have double coverage, shoot

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Speaker 3: back into the inside, and that's what he did, and

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Speaker 3: it just ends up.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's funny because he was double covered and

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Speaker 4: I think the rush wanted to go to him initially

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Speaker 4: and he and he got caught. He saw the flash

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Speaker 4: of or cd CD went from shadows into a little

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Speaker 4: bit of sun to being all my son to being

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Speaker 4: on the sun or the light, right, I'm sorry, just

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Speaker 4: the light. But so if you if if the if,

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Speaker 4: the if the throw off the jump is cd CD

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Speaker 4: in the before he gets to the light, it's a

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Speaker 4: touch right, because so now he's in between and I

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Speaker 4: think Cooper got caught in between. Do I throw it

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Speaker 4: to Ferguson because of the double coverage or whoa wait

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Speaker 4: a minute, and now he's kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 4: doing one of those, and you know, Lamb is kind

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Speaker 4: of like, honestly, you know, it was tough. It was

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Speaker 4: tough down there, It really was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it just this feels like one of those things

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Speaker 7: that you start pointing out one thing, but then that

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Speaker 7: thing leads you to another thought, and it's just another

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Speaker 7: thought and then you just keep going in the same

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Speaker 7: vicious circle that you're just start going crazy, like there's

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Speaker 7: no easy, quick solution here and it's just not one

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Speaker 7: piece or there's so many different components and like, like

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Speaker 7: you said, that's a clear example. And we've seen another

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Speaker 7: one that when they or also we talked about this

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Speaker 7: on the break, I think on the actual break between commercials.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're on the break.

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Speaker 2: We are on the break.

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Speaker 7: But this whole thing, like when they do have something

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Speaker 7: that's kind of working for them, they stop and it's

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Speaker 7: just like it just doesn't make.

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Speaker 4: It any Philadelphia was having some problems during the year

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Speaker 4: of defending the draw and then the nineteen yard run

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Speaker 4: you had was a draw play because they're so they're

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Speaker 4: so conscious of getting up the field and then you

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Speaker 4: get blockers in place, and then you know you've got

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Speaker 4: a tough runner and you know they're able to gain yards.

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Speaker 4: But there were some opportunities you just you just it

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Speaker 4: gets away from you. And I can say that that

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Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back.

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Speaker 3: we come back, and we got it before we end

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Speaker 3: SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Let's talk about Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance yesterday when he got into the game, his four

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Speaker 3: six sixty seven percent completion rate, only twenty one yards passing,

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Speaker 3: one interception, thirty two point six rating.

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Speaker 4: He took, He gambled, he did, He gambled that his

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Speaker 4: guy was going to get there, and this guy just

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Speaker 3: But he did have three carries for seventeen yards. My

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Speaker 3: question was more no, why to me? Yeah, exactly, But

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Speaker 3: my question was more why was the timing weird for

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Speaker 3: everybody else when they decided to get him in Because

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Speaker 3: we've been talking all week about the possibility of a package.

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Speaker 3: My thought is it's a critical down. My thought is

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Speaker 3: you're in the red zone. My thought is, like, there

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Speaker 3: are moments in the game where it makes sense to

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Speaker 3: trick it up a little bit starting a series, bringing

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Speaker 3: him in for two plays where one of them he runs,

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Speaker 3: which okay, great, and the other one he hands the

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Speaker 4: What do you guys think you got anything?

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Speaker 7: Embar just random that just okay, you know, things just

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Speaker 7: just one of those things that you just say, nothing

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Speaker 7: is working. Let me just throw him in there and

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Speaker 7: see if it were like it just goes to me,

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Speaker 7: it just illustrates the how do you say when you're

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Speaker 7: not prepared, the lack of preparation, the lack.

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Speaker 2: Of you knowing your team and.

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Speaker 7: What your strengths and weaknesses are, like that just is

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Speaker 7: just you trying to make something out of nothing, but

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Speaker 7: without a plan, just hoping that something will work out.

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Speaker 7: So it's just to me, just illustrate its lack of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that it's it's difficult because you were

653
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: behind and maybe the opportunity. Now, let's be honest, so too,

654
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: we've seen Trey Lance down in the red zone and

655
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: training camp, and we've seen him in preseason games and stuff,

656
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: and it hasn't always been successful. Maybe where maybe where

657
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: the opportunity to put Trey Lance in there is once

658
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: you've got the ball down there, you know, the Zeke

659
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: fumble that maybe that would have been the opportunity, like, Okay,

660
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: let's let's see how well they really defend the read

661
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: option here. You know, let's see if they can. You know,

662
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: you're throwing something different. You're thinking, oh, it's Cooper, gonna

663
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: be Cooper Rush. We're going to put you know, we

664
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: have to defend the pass. All of a sudden, you

665
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: throw a her ball at him and you say, Trey Lance.

666
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: Now it's the thread of he's going to ride it,

667
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna crash, and now he's gonna walk in. That's

668
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: where I would have tried to do something with Trey Lance,

669
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: just maybe. But it might also be where they're thinking, well,

670
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: we've seen not great things. I mean, the Vegas game

671
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: was one of his better games when it came to

672
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: dealing with that. It looked like it was a much

673
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: more improved player than it was against the Rams, which

674
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: again another preseason game. But if you're in your mind,

675
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: you're thinking, God, could he make a mistake down here? Well,

676
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: if you knew that Zeke was going to fumble the ball,

677
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: you would have probably just said, well, just go and

678
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: play Trey Lance and let's see what see what happens.

679
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: I think you have to kind of find ways two

680
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: a way to have used him in certain situations where

681
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: it made it like, okay, let's put the thread of it.

682
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: It's a third and two where it's a you know,

683
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: you never really got in these situations. Seemed like there

684
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: were a lot of long yard situations yesterday. So I

685
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: would have kind of just tried to find spots where

686
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: it made sense to maybe make the Eagles have to

687
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: defend the run and the pass right and instead of

688
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: just putting him in. But to me, now, I'm interested

689
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: in playing him the rest of the way. And I'm

690
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: interested in playing him the rest of the way and

691
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: then trying to run a college offense. Make people have

692
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: to prepare for the read option, make people have to,

693
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, to do some things. You know, with his

694
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: running him that design run, he had direct snap drop back,

695
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: you know, direct snap drop back, boom, eleven yards. All right,

696
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: here we go. That's design runs. Those are good plays,

697
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: you know, those are I think those are what we

698
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: need to see going forward with Cooper Rush. I I

699
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: just I just the upside of it there, I don't

700
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: see it. I would rather give me more options, more

701
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 4: elements to maybe moving the football. And that's why I

702
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: think I would play.

703
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Trailer because I feel like we know what Cooper Rush is.

704
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he and he was an that that I didn't

705
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: recognize that guy yesterday though, But again I.

706
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 7: Think some of it attributes to the offense in general

707
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 7: being so often what he had then and you know

708
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 7: that was very different from that year when he was

709
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 7: being the backup during Dax's injury. But with Trey Lance,

710
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 7: there is a whole unknown yet that we have. We're

711
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 7: still we still have quite a few question marks around

712
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 7: him and hoping to see maybe at some point it

713
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: starts clicking. Because he does have an arm like he

714
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 7: he can make he can throw some really good passes,

715
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 7: but it's just so inconsistent. And then you add into

716
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 7: the mix his ability to run. That's another thing that

717
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 7: I thought there was a lack of usage yesterday. What

718
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 7: I would have liked to see more intention behind it.

719
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way the way to maybe beat Philadelphia yesterday

720
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: was running the football. And if you could have done

721
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 4: it with Trey Lance and then done it with Rico

722
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 4: Daddle you know, and maybe you've done it with some

723
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: jet sweeps with Turpin or whoever else that might have

724
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: been the way. Maybe it's not a thirty you know,

725
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: maybe it's not a thirty four to six game. Maybe

726
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: it's a twenty one sixteen game or twenty four to sixty.

727
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: It's not a you know, something that looks because the

728
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: three and outs just kept killing the defense every time

729
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: that they went three and out. You know, I mean,

730
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 4: here's McCarthy, they get the interception with Digs and they

731
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: go three and out and you're just like, you just

732
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: put your defense back out there after making a great stop.

733
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: You don't even give them time to get a cup

734
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: of gatorade and catch their breath. You put them right

735
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: back out there again. And that's the unfortunate thing about

736
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: it is needed. They needed balance, and because we interviewed

737
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: Tracy Wolfson from CBS before the game, and you know,

738
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: she talks to the coaches and stuff, and that's the

739
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 4: one thing they're saying, Hey, we have to have some balance.

740
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 4: These losses they just have no balance.

741
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: And I mean, let's be honest too, Like I think

742
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: the probably because the team has played so poorly. I

743
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: think one of the major things about yesterday that really

744
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: hasn't been talked about, but to me is probably the

745
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: biggest thing and why they lost is five turnovers. Yea,

746
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: like unless you're yeah, unless your a Lion's from last

747
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: night when that had figured out a way to get

748
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: a win on the road, Like you you have five

749
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: turnovers in a game and you lose the turnover battle

750
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: five to one, like the likelihood of you winning unless

751
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: you're just a really really good team, which Dallas has

752
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: not proven to be this year. Like that's that's the

753
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: story of the game. I mean that that defense just

754
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: got to put into too many bad situations for them

755
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: to continue to hold. And they were playing really well,

756
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: but when you're getting the ball, when the other team

757
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: is getting the ball on your twenty, like it's just like,

758
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: come on, there's not much.

759
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: You can do with that.

760
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 7: And that's the upsetting part. When you see your own

761
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 7: defense finally doing something getting the ball back for you

762
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 7: and you're still unable to do anything.

763
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: I mean that that's exhausting. I can only imagine how

764
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: they felt.

765
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 4: That after that interception that they got. They know, just

766
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 4: get him two first downs, get you kill. Kill. About

767
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: five minutes off the clock, you know, six minutes off

768
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: the clock if you can and give the defensive chance

769
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: to regroup, you know, they but I will say is defensively,

770
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer did some things yesterday that I was like

771
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: I said early in the opening that I liked with

772
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 4: the blitz packages and I liked with him getting over

773
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: shown involved in they and they think so going forward,

774
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 4: that to me is a positive thing. Offensively, I can't

775
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: really think of anything other than the fact that Austome

776
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: Richard's on a probably on a spot start, played really

777
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: really well for at left tackle.

778
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 3: Speaking of overshowing, obviously he had a really great game

779
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: that we don't know what the injury is. It sounds

780
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: like it's not that serious.

781
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 4: He is the game. In the post, he sounded like

782
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: he was ready to be ready to play.

783
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: He did come back in the game, he said. I

784
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: think it sounded more like they precautionary, precautionary thing to

785
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 3: kind of just pull him for the fourth quarter, because

786
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: at that point they're like, it's not going to change anything,

787
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: but just looking at him and how they use him, Like,

788
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts about him for the rest of

789
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: the year, knowing that, like, how do you how do

790
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: you feel about a player like him who's relatively young.

791
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: He's a rookie.

792
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: Playing really well, right, playing really well, but you also

793
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: like you're putting him out there in games where you

794
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: know you're you're using him and using in a lot

795
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 3: of different ways. How do you worry at all about

796
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: his his health going down the street?

797
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: He plays nine hundred miles an hour. Matter of fact,

798
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: he there was a pass play that the one ball

799
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: on a third down that went to Berkley in the flat,

800
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: and and and then and Kendricks was kind of hesitating.

801
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 4: Man thirteen comes flying from the middle of the field

802
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 4: and he misses the tackle and he blows up Kendricks.

803
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 4: I mean, Kendricks is like standing and just got hit

804
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: by a car, you know, goes flying back. That's just

805
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: how this kid plays you you. You know, Mike even

806
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: talked about it after the game. How the energy that

807
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: he plays with, the passion that he plays with. You know,

808
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: that's just he's just a great example of what this

809
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: defense could be, you know, with him and Micah. You know,

810
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 4: I'll tell you Carl Lawson played well again for you today.

811
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: So you know, you've got some guys that are really

812
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball. That gave some

813
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 4: great effort and unfortunately didn't work out for him. But

814
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: the thing with overshown, he plays so hard that there's

815
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: probably going to be games where he's sitting on the

816
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: field and you know, doctor Cooper and everybody in Britt

817
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: Brown and Jim Mauer running out to make sure he's okay,

818
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 4: and then he's going to pop up. You know, that's

819
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: just how he plays. He's one of those types of guys.

820
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, very very aggressive and one of the few bright

821
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 7: spots on the team right now. That gives gets you

822
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 7: excited because the great thing about him is him being

823
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 7: out all year last year, then coming back from the injury.

824
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: Since the moment he got back on the field, from

825
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 7: the beginning of the season, he's been impactful and he

826
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 7: the good thing. He's had bad moments too, we've seen that,

827
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 7: but again, his arrow keeps trending upwards. Everything since week

828
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 7: one till now, you keep seeing him improve and improve

829
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 7: and improve.

830
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: So that's just very very exciting to see that.

831
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 7: And then now, like we talked about at the beginning,

832
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 7: with the addition of Mikey Parsons coming back and just

833
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 7: seeing what that looked like with those packages and seeing

834
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 7: how he can now start to shine in a different

835
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 7: way in this defense and create those pressures. It's just

836
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 7: it's amazing and it does worry me. I mean when

837
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 7: he was down there, I was typing something and I

838
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 7: asked you there on my way, who's down he said overs.

839
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, oh my god. My heart stopped for

840
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: a moment there.

841
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 7: So it's one of those things that at this point, yes,

842
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 7: you worried completely because he's so aggressive in the way

843
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 7: that he plays, and now, based on how the season

844
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 7: is trending, you know it is most likely not gonna

845
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 7: happen this year, so you don't want to.

846
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: Make him be out there.

847
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 7: But then this is what they pay you for to

848
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 7: You know, you're you're gonna have to play. You gotta

849
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 7: get in there and keep playing.

850
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: So it's just you. You're just gonna have to help it.

851
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 7: By the way, Nick is not here today, but I

852
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: did see someone Remember when Nick decided to open his

853
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 7: mouth saying that over shown is the one that hasn't

854
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 7: gotten heard yet.

855
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: Remember the moment that he jinx it. Someone twitted on

856
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: me saying that's a niggas.

857
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 7: So if if something ever happens, or we'll see if

858
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 7: he seems to be okay.

859
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 4: This is another good game too from Osa.

860
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 13: Yeah.

861
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's two in a row where.

862
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: He well yeah, absolutely, all right. We appreciate you guys going.

863
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: So we're back tomorrow. We'll get a bigger picture. Look, man,

864
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: talking about this NFC East is getting interesting. Thursday night

865
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: got a big NFC East matchup between the Commanders and

866
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: the Eagles. That'll be I think that'll be for first

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Speaker 3: place in the division.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Philly is a half game up right now. Washington's

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Speaker 4: not had their buy yet.

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Speaker 3: Yep. All right, but uh, but we'll talk about a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff tomorrow. We'll have a lot of different topics.

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Speaker 3: We'll hit some player evaluation. There are a couple of

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Speaker 3: players I want to talk about that came out of

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Speaker 3: this game and how they performed in this game. We'll

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Speaker 3: do that tomorrow too. Then for Brian brodus inn Ambergarci,

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Speaker 3: I'm Derek Gield and this has been The Break live

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