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Speaker 3: Everyone, Emily A body coming to you from the Age Studio.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode one ninety four of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a wellness focus podcast where I connect with everyone from

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Speaker 3: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about

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Speaker 3: their highest hies, toughest moments, and everything in between. We

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Speaker 3: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through

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Speaker 3: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 3: If you are not motivated to work hard and be

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Speaker 3: a good human after listening to this chat with Neka,

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Speaker 3: gratitude magnitude again, so many gems, so much good, good

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Speaker 4: I'm doing so well. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Flashback to first overall pick twenty twelve WNBA Draft by

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it definitely comes from my upbringing.

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Speaker 2: Who would you say sits on that list?

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Speaker 3: I love that I described it as humble, but I

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Speaker 1: talking about. You know, you can have a to do list,

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Speaker 1: but what are you embodying every day? And so for me,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, being disciplined on you know, what I'm

443
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444
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445
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Speaker 1: taking it too seriously is also a part of the

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Speaker 1: small things that you can do every day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and that's what being great contributes to, and that's kind

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Speaker 3: is like self help work that people do over the

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Speaker 3: course of like three decades, like understanding the difference between uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, Meca the basketball player versus Neca the individual,

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Speaker 3: and that your greatness doesn't reside in one of those

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Speaker 3: such a beautiful and important lesson that so many of

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Speaker 3: us learn, especially during times when we can't do the

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Speaker 3: thing which is a big part of our identity. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to jump around too much, but I

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Speaker 3: do want to talk to you about your injury from

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Speaker 3: twenty one because I'm sure that in that moment, that

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Speaker 3: knee injury, you probably struggled a little bit with your

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Speaker 1: I struggled a lot, you know, I had that was

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Speaker 1: the That's the first injury that has kept me out

533
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Speaker 1: for that long. Yeah, I've had like a high ankle sprain,

534
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Speaker 1: I've had concussions, but having an injury that was so

535
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Speaker 1: acute both in nature and and I guess also a

536
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Speaker 1: bit in prognosis because it was very straightforward, like what

537
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Speaker 1: needed to happen for me to get back on the court.

538
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Speaker 1: There was no gray area about it. I struggled a

539
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Speaker 1: lot with my self worth in that injury based upon

540
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Speaker 1: everything that was going on, you know, being selected for

541
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Speaker 1: the olymp team and being there for my team in

542
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Speaker 1: a year in which so much change was experienced, and

543
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Speaker 1: having to watch from the sidelines, you know, knowing that

544
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Speaker 1: my teammates were holding it down. You know, we still

545
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Speaker 1: had to play, and so a lot of what I

546
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Speaker 1: experienced was it felt like I was trying to reconvince

547
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Speaker 1: myself of my worth. I feel as though me experiencing

548
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Speaker 1: the injury, along with decisions that were made last summer,

549
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: it stripped me of what I thought I knew about

550
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Speaker 1: my contributions, what I bring to the table as a person,

551
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Speaker 1: not even just as a player. Obviously, injuries happened, and

552
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: so you can't be out there, you can't be out there.

553
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Speaker 1: But how I experienced the injury at the timing that

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Speaker 1: it did, it really opened my eyes to what I

555
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Speaker 1: thought was important and things that may have gone overlooked

556
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Speaker 1: because of the amount of work I was physically putting

557
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Speaker 1: in to goals. And what I realized that I overlooked

558
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Speaker 1: was the people around me that support me. And it's

559
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Speaker 1: not to say that I wasn't appreciating them, but there's

560
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Speaker 1: certain people that were there for me in that time.

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Speaker 1: That are the people that get you out of those

562
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Speaker 1: dark moments. And I think that there's a common misconception

563
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Speaker 1: when it comes to whether it's mental health or anxiety

564
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: or worry, is that it's on you to get yourself

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Speaker 1: out of it. And there are there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: work that you do need to do, but a lot

567
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Speaker 1: of times when you're stuck, your core, your village, your

568
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: circle are the people that pull you out, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you can finally see the light. I remember

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Speaker 1: I heard this analogy a long time ago. I don't

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Speaker 1: even remember when, but they said that, like whether it's grace, God,

572
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: the universe, love, universal love is like the sun. It's

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Speaker 1: always shining. But if you're in the house in a

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Speaker 1: room with the lights and the shades turned off, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna appear as though it's not hitting you. You have

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Speaker 1: to make the choice to open the blinds, walk through

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Speaker 1: the door, walk outside, and then feel the rays. And

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Speaker 1: even at times when you're in the house and the

579
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: blinds are open, you can see the sun shining in.

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Speaker 1: So it's always searching, It's always there for you. You

581
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Speaker 1: just have to figure out what it is that you

582
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: need to do. To let it hit your skin. And

583
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Speaker 1: sometimes it takes a friend to get you out of bed.

584
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a family member to open the door.

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00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a teammate to walk with you outside

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Speaker 1: so that the sun can hit you. And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what I experience. That's the best analogy that I

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Speaker 1: can give that kind of consummates my injury and what

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Speaker 1: I was experiencing last year.

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Speaker 3: You and I have spent twenty seven minutes talking to

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Speaker 3: each other, But I think it goes without saying that

592
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: you probably are the strong person for a lot of

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Speaker 3: people in your life. I definitely identify that way as well,

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Speaker 3: and I understand that that is me also at times,

595
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Speaker 3: like maybe not being upfront about the things that I'm

596
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Speaker 3: going through right off the bat because I want to

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Speaker 3: stand as a pillar for those that I care about.

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Speaker 3: But the broader understanding of knowing exactly what you're saying,

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Speaker 3: of knowing that it's okay to let someone give you

600
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Speaker 3: their hand, it's okay to take their hand, it's okay

601
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Speaker 3: to be like, yo, I am not doing so hot,

602
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Speaker 3: And even just like that idea of feeling stuck right oh,

603
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: that resonates with me so much. How many times do

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Speaker 3: I just feel like, man, I really wish someone could

605
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Speaker 3: help me lift me up out of the pool that

606
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm just like spinning my legs in.

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Speaker 3: I wish that so often someone would just extend that

608
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Speaker 3: olive branch to me. But it's not thinking like, oh,

609
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Speaker 3: I'm a burden, I can't ask for that. It's oh,

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Speaker 3: if I have the relationships, the right relationships in my life,

611
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Speaker 3: then I will never ever have to feel that way, right.

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Speaker 1: You hit the nail on the head. With being the

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Speaker 1: strong one. It can be empowering at times, but it

614
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Speaker 1: sucks when, like when you feel like there's there's nothing

615
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Speaker 1: that can match, like you don't have a strong person

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Speaker 1: for you, and that's what that's what it seems like.

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Speaker 1: But you have to kind of break that down and

618
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Speaker 1: understand that everyone is strong in their own way, and

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why there's people in your life that

620
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Speaker 1: can bring out of you what for you may feel

621
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Speaker 1: really vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: YEA.

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Speaker 1: Something that that you also hit on that I think

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Speaker 1: is really important to understand is true grace and greatness.

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Speaker 1: It happens in those moments when you keep doing the

626
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Speaker 1: work and seemingly nothing is changing, and I don't mean

627
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: to say like build on bad habits, but when sometimes

628
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: when things are happening and in life it feels as

629
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Speaker 1: though you're writing a plateau, it's just that patience is

630
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Speaker 1: preparing you. I was just talking to someone about this

631
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Speaker 1: this morning. I struggle with anticipation, like I understand that

632
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Speaker 1: things can't happen as planned, even though I'm such a planner,

633
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: I understand that things can happen as planned. But for me,

634
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Speaker 1: when the plan is ambiguous, it's it's understanding that patience

635
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: is also preparing me. I don't have to feel like

636
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Speaker 1: I have to keep doing something. And so I think

637
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Speaker 1: my injury forced me to sit down, and it was

638
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Speaker 1: very helpful because I had to sit with myself and

639
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Speaker 1: I had to sit I mean I ultimately I couldn't moved,

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Speaker 1: so I had to sit with people that were there

641
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Speaker 1: for me. So it was it was a blessing in disguise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like this analogy extends to every single person

643
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: over the last two years of our life. And so

644
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 3: to think about you going through that necessity to sit

645
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: still and feel a little bit stuck while physically, in

646
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Speaker 3: some ways all of us having to sit still a

647
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: little be a little bit stuck, like it's no wonder

648
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: why you felt like you were in the room with

649
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: the shades drawn, because how could you not how could

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Speaker 3: you not feel that way considering everything that was going

651
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: on in the world. Nevertheless, everything that was just going

652
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: on with you and your body not being able to

653
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Speaker 3: execute in the way that you were used to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: And realizing at times that those things kind of happened

656
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Speaker 1: for a reason, but then also allowing yourself to feel

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Speaker 1: it without it becoming a part of you. That's a

658
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Speaker 1: big challenge in anything in life.

659
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Speaker 4: We have to feel these.

660
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: Things, you know, otherwise they wouldn't exist. You know, we

661
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: learn a lot through our challenges. But it's what happens

662
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: after or it's how you push through the tunnel that

663
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: gets you to the light at the end.

664
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: Adult think is hard.

665
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: Adult think is hard. I don't think it's so hard

666
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: talking about the light at the end of the tunnel.

667
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: I said, I didn't want to jump around too much,

668
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: and then we harped on this for a moment because

669
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: I think it's a really important part of your story

670
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: so far. But you have been like trudging your way

671
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: through this career like none other I highlighted so many

672
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: of your amazing accomplishments.

673
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: At the top of this podcast, I asked.

674
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: You when you thought that you knew that you want

675
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: to continue on with this professionally, but when professionally, would

676
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: you say that you really understood I am one of

677
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: the best women to ever.

678
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: Have done this honestly when we signed the CBA, Yes, yeah,

679
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: when I would. I had the pleasure of working with

680
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: my current executive committee and our WNVPA staff and of

681
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: course the WNBA front office. Signing the CBA for me,

682
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: I mean and granted, I've won a championship, I've I've

683
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, had all types of honors and recognition as

684
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: it pertains to like my achievements on the court, but

685
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: signing the CBA for me was like, oh my gosh,

686
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: like this is history. And then also too, completing a

687
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: bubble season was also a major major accomplishment. It's not

688
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: anything I would wish upon anyone. It's not anything I

689
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: would ever do again, but those two things stand out

690
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: in my career. Is like wow, like that's gonna be

691
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: in the history books, like we were a part of that.

692
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: That was huge.

693
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: But I think after having after having settled into my

694
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: role as a player, as a president, and as a person.

695
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: I find myself now in my career just kind of like, man,

696
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: I just want to hoop and I want people to

697
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: get to know me outside of my roles. It's funny

698
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: because I think people see me as I think people

699
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: give me like principal energy, and I don't really like it.

700
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh principal energy.

701
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

702
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean like because like I am the president and

703
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: most times I've been captain on my team, you know.

704
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: Just like an overachiever.

705
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: I'm like the person that was also staying council president

706
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: and like captain of the varsity, et cetera, et cetera.

707
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: It's cool, but I'm just kind of like I want

708
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: people to know.

709
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: Me, like, girl, I was the same way, please, like

710
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: after a president for my entire region of three states,

711
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Like what was it? You know, sometimes you're just like

712
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: you just identify as that, like that's the person that

713
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 3: you're going to be. You're going to be at the forefront,

714
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: even though you're going to have these moments where you

715
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: do doubt yourself. You know, I do want to make

716
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: sure that I double click here on two things that

717
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: go hand in hand. I mentioned at the top of

718
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 3: this that you were like, yo, I don't even want

719
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: to be the president. Talk to us a little bit

720
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: about how that kind of came to fruition.

721
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think for the longest, it's always

722
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: kind of been a job that was assumed because a

723
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: lot of people don't it's a hard job, especially in

724
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: this world where women's sports is growing, and so the

725
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: growing part sounds good, but you know, we all know

726
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: what growing pains feel like. You know, like it's it's

727
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: not always fun. I had always been I had always

728
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: been voted as a player representative without my knowledge by

729
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: my teammates, and so I naturally just kind of became

730
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: a part of the circuit. And then ultimately I got

731
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: voted onto the executive committee without my knowledge as my

732
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: teammates for my teammates, and so I was like the

733
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: baby of the bunch when Tamika was the president. And

734
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: then when she was retiring, she came to me. She

735
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, so I'm gonna need you to run

736
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, so no, but she You know,

737
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: when when someone liked to mek A, you know, you know,

738
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways suggests that you need to

739
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: run for something or that you need to step up

740
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: and be a part of something, then you don't really

741
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: say no. So that's kind of what I did, and

742
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: it has been a complete I was a guppy, like,

743
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: it was a complete learning process from the beginning.

744
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: But I have an.

745
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Amazing executive committee, We have an amazing WNVPA staff, and

746
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do without that group

747
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: of people. Like we we have some some really enlightening conversations.

748
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: We have some conversations that aren't always easy for people

749
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: to have, but they're such a comfort and there's such

750
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: a revolutionary air to how we do what we do

751
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: and how we communicate and how we represent the one

752
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: forty four that just really ignites us and it allows

753
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: us to be change makers.

754
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned the CBA, the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

755
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: Let's give a little bit of insight onto that for

756
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: those that may not be familiar and are listening to

757
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: this right now.

758
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Collective Bargain Agreement is essentially a really

759
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: long agreement that highlights and details, you know, the rights

760
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: of the players as agreed upon by the player Association

761
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: or the union and the WNVPA their employers. So it's

762
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: the union and union union workers agree with their employer

763
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: to have rights and proper working conditions.

764
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: I love the air quotes that are like happening on

765
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: our end here.

766
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: So for you, why was this just like such a

767
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: monumental thing that you have accomplished so far in your career.

768
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: It didn't occur to me until we announced that we

769
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: had included, you know, innovative models and details for which

770
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: we could, you know, start having the conversation around equity

771
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: as it's directly represented in an agreement that affects us.

772
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: Until you know, women who weren't even in sport were

773
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: talking to us about how monumental it was that we

774
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: signed such a revolutionary agreement. And you know, as athletes,

775
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: you think, okay, you know, I have an unconventional job.

776
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: There's just things that happen and that we do, and

777
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: at times you feel sometimes that you're kind of behind

778
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: the grain. But it was evident that we were setting

779
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: the tone for women in the workplace, not just women

780
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: in sport, but then of course too to now come

781
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: to today and see that the NWSL has signed their

782
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: first CBA and just being being able to contribute what

783
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: we learned for other women to be monumental, to be historical,

784
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: and ultimately for us to leave things better than when

785
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: we entered it is just huge. This is something that

786
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: will change things forever and there's no retracting, there's no

787
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: going back, and so to be a part of that

788
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: forward progress and that forward movement is amazing.

789
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: It's exciting to see the progress that we're making.

790
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: It's exciting think about where it could go from here.

791
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: When you think about what you want next. You mentioned

792
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: the Olympics and obviously navigating that knee injury.

793
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: What's on your bucket list going forward?

794
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: I just want to hoop, and I just want to

795
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: win some trophies. That's all that is.

796
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: I'd also like to lift up other women and like,

797
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: you know, all of these things. But hooping and trophies

798
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: sounds great.

799
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does.

800
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you know, I look forward to

801
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: seeing what more we can do as a players Association

802
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: and as a league.

803
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: But you mentioned also your outstanding Executive Committee.

804
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: I know that your sister Shane is on it as well.

805
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: What's it been like for you too to be able

806
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: to share this love for basketball and keep it within

807
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 3: the fam.

808
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. I think the person that loves it the

809
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: most is my mom for sure. You know, it's I

810
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: get to play with her. I'm on the executive committee

811
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: with her. You know, we get to talk about these

812
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: things every day that affect us, that affect our teammates

813
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: and the women of this league. And for us to

814
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: be able to have those kind of congruencies, amiss, you know,

815
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: our almost kind of like separate careers because she's taken

816
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: her path and I've taken mine. It's it's fun to

817
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: be able to to always relate, you know, in something.

818
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: That we have to do.

819
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: How is it that you're making the time to take

820
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: care of you considering everything we talked about from the

821
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: challenges of the you know, the year that we just

822
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: just checked off.

823
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think this is something that looks

824
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: very different for a lot of people. Taking time can

825
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: look like a whole different. It looks so different for

826
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: every person, and I think also too at times for

827
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: the individual. It looks different on a day to day basis,

828
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. And so you know,

829
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: the time that I take now in our off season

830
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: is very different from the time that I would take

831
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: during season. So now, like I really when people say, oh,

832
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: we're going to work. You know, I'm going to work.

833
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: I got to get up, get ready to go to work.

834
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: My work is like waking up and working out, like

835
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: that's what I do. And so granted, in two or

836
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: three hours every morning, I do that, but like having

837
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: the discipline and having my morning routine that sets me

838
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: up to have like a great workout, and then of

839
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: course having a recovery session at the end. Just learning

840
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: more about my discipline, learning more about my personal boundaries

841
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, how far I can

842
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: extend myself. But then always staying tapped in, you know,

843
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: being able to talk to people like you, being able

844
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: to show up, whether it's at a dinner, appearance or

845
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: a photoshoot, like enjoying those moments when the season is

846
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: not happening. Being very present is one way that I

847
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: really try my best to stay balanced, because there's going

848
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: to be a day when no one remembers who you are,

849
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: so you have to you have to be very, very

850
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: grateful for every moment. And so this offseason, I've really

851
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: been focusing on that and saying yes to doing more

852
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: after experiencing a couple of years of us needing to

853
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of detach from one another physically at least.

854
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

855
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know about if there's going

856
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: to be a day where people don't know you are

857
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: with the legacy that you are consciously working on and building.

858
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Here two quick things to double click on.

859
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: First thing you said morning routine a buzzword for many

860
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: Two parts of your morning routine that are non negotiable.

861
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: What are they?

862
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: Ooh, I journal.

863
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: And is there a framework to that that you stick by.

864
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm kind of like a I have my

865
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: own kind of like prompt. So, like I have this

866
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: thing that I'm up It's called attitude, gratitude, magnitude. So

867
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: I write about like how I guess attitude is kind

868
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: of like mantra sort of, but like I write, you know,

869
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. You know, you have to speak in

870
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: the present and you have to speak good upon yourself.

871
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: So like you just write about things that like I

872
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: am I feel this, you know, and then gratitude I

873
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: write down. That's always at the end of the day,

874
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: but in the morning, I write down my attitude and magnitude.

875
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Magnitude are things that I want to see happen, their goals,

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Speaker 1: their dreams, you know. Their prayers, manifestations, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very detailed about it. You know, you can't

878
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: be too vague with those. So I definitely journal every

879
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: morning and then I have like a meditative or prayerful moment,

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00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of times I kind of mix that

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00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: with like some type of stretching or like some way

882
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: to kind of invigorate my body. So whether it's like

883
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: in child's polls or my legs up elevated against the wall.

884
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: I try to do at least like fifteen minutes of

885
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: that every morning before I get up.

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Speaker 3: Are you willing to share what's on the magnitude from

887
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Speaker 3: anything from the last week? Ooh? I like that piece

888
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Speaker 3: of advice about being very specific about it, like being

889
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: very you know, you can have positive intentions, but until

890
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: you like actually get specific about the things that you want, like,

891
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: that's how it helps those things actually happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, absolutely.

893
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: I would say, like something that I'm specifically manifesting is

894
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: for my team to have the resources necessary to build

895
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: a Sparks practice facility, And like I write that down

896
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: and like sometimes if you want to, you can write

897
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: it down down to like when you want it to happen,

898
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: Like by this year, by this day. But that's something

899
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: I've been writing down for about a year.

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Speaker 3: You know. That's interesting, right, because I think someone will say,

901
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: like you were just talking about how like how specific

902
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: you can get, and maybe someone who is a little

903
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: bit more cynical would be like, well, how much of

904
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: that is actually in your control? But when you take

905
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: a step back and you ask yourself that question, like

906
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: a fair amount of it could be in your control

907
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: if you actually like speak up and take action against

908
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: the thing that you want, even if it is a

909
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: little bit grand noise, right.

910
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, no, one hundred percent, because you're not writing

911
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: it down in hopes that you just put it out

912
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: there and it's going to happen, right, You're writing it

913
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: down to make it material, But then you're also writing

914
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: it down so that you can see that all the

915
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: actions that you take on a day to day, whether

916
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: you feel like they're you're in your control or not,

917
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: are towards those goals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, wow, I love it. I love it all. Right,

919
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: we're starting to wind down here right now.

920
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: Someone doesn't know you that well, maybe they're hearing about

921
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: you for the first time on this show.

922
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: Right now, they go to your Instagram page to check

923
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: you out.

924
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: They're like wow, like superstar basketball player geez, one hundred

925
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: and fifty four thousand people follow her.

926
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: This is crazy. When you look in the mirror, what

927
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: is it that you see looking back at you?

928
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: I see, I guess you could say, like a big sister.

929
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: And I mean that both literally and figuratively. I feel

930
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: like I I hold that role for a lot.

931
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Speaker 4: Of people in my life. I see.

932
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Speaker 1: A leader, someone who's in charge, and I see a

933
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Speaker 1: creative I see someone who's very creative. There's a lot

934
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Speaker 1: that I use to express myself, whether it's through food,

935
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: through music, through television. There's a lot of stuff that

936
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: I do that people don't really or like that I

937
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: pay attention to, or that I engage with that people

938
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Speaker 1: don't really know about.

939
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: What are we cooking?

940
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 4: Ooh?

941
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: Right now on my fridge, I have lo maine as

942
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: something that I want to make.

943
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I.

944
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Love how Also you were like I see the strong friend,

945
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: Like I know, I see this person that is a

946
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: person that is here for everyone I care about.

947
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really am that person though. Yeah that's just

948
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of who I am. But you know, I love music,

949
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: I love food, I love TV. And movies like I

950
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: actually really like fashion too, Like I'm I have a.

951
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: Very creative essence. So Lomaine is on the menu I'm

952
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 4: currently living.

953
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: And hears this, They're like, okay, so we're going to

954
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: need to start working on some specific key pieces for

955
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four.

956
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: Well we'll see what happens.

957
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Speaker 3: Yes, start putting that on the Magnitude list right right,

958
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well, okay, final question here for you, Neka.

959
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: Right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a

960
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: year ago, going through the thick of it, sitting in

961
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 3: that dark room, dealing with the knee injury.

962
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Speaker 2: The pandemic is in full force.

963
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: You have an opportunity to offer that woman a piece

964
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: of advice. Looking back on it now with the new

965
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: perspective that you have. What is it that you tell

966
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: her you.

967
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: Just got to feel it, feel it and forget it.

968
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Like feel it and let it go, allow yourself to feel.

969
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: Don't arrest yourself in this idea that hurting is not healing.

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Speaker 2: My soul, my soul.

971
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Speaker 3: All this is like, honestly, such a such a joy

972
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 3: to talk to you today.

973
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Nika.

974
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Speaker 3: How did the hurdlers follow along with you. How do

975
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: they keep up with you? Give me all the details.

976
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: My name is Neco Gloomickay. You can find me at

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00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Neco Boomackay on both Twitter and Instagram, and I think

979
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: that's really the best way on social media. But most importantly,

980
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: I play for the La Sparks, so you can get

981
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: your tickets at the Lasparks dot com. You can watch us,

982
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: you can sub you can subscribe to le w NBA

983
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: League Pass for you to be able to watch me

984
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: and the La Sparks at your earliest convenient.

985
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Speaker 2: I'm on it. I'm on it.

986
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Speaker 3: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast and at Emily Abadi another

987
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.