1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: There's a place beyond this place, a middle ground between 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: the light and the darkness, the natire and the zenith. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: For some, it's a bridge between the living and the dead. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Yet for others, it's something else. Entirely, it's the place 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: where our nightmares dwell. Each one of us has touched 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: the other side and felt the presence of something beyond 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: this world. We now venture into a realm where the 9 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: Boogieyman are real. And this tale ripped from the darkest 10 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: corners of urban life, a story that unfolds in a 11 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: West Toronto neighborhood where the vulnerability of. 12 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: Youth collides with the terrors of the adult world. 13 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: Smiley unpacks his haunting encounter with this man, seemingly possessed 14 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 2: and one among the army of drug addicted zombies roaming 15 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: the streets. Brace yourselves for a heroin journey into a 16 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: nightmarish underworld that exists in the shadows have been all 17 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: too real urban landscape. 18 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: My name is Smiley and this is my hip hot 19 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: horror story. So as a kid, I used to watch 20 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: Krela de Ville and then I always used to dream 21 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: of her. I have scary nightmares of her coming in 22 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: like in my basement, and she would come out the 23 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: furnace room and I how to wake up. And that 24 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: was the scariest thing to you as a kid. My 25 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: last dream I had of her, she came in the 26 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: in the dream and like my I for some reason, 27 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: like I couldn't move, like I couldn't move, and then 28 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: she was walking towards me, and I see my friends 29 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: pass me, but like for some reason, the words couldn't 30 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 4: come out my mouth. I was trying to say help me, 31 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: but like I wouldn't, like you know when you try 32 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: to scream but nothing's going out. So it's the weirdest feeling. 33 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: Then she was walking towards me in the dream, and 34 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: then my friends just passed me, and I was like, no, 35 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: she wasn't scary when I watched the movie, but in 36 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: the dream she. 37 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: Was scary because it's. 38 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: You and the it's one on one in the dream, 39 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: it's say, everything's scary in the dream. I would always 40 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: try to escape the basement in the dream, and she 41 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: would grab me by my legs and drag me them 42 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: up to the furnace, Like the furnace room was dark 43 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: and everything. 44 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 5: That's where she came from. So I think that's where. 45 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: She was trying to drag me in there and I 46 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: would disappear somewhere wild olds, wake up. I think she 47 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: wanted to take me to you know, Narnia. I think 48 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: there was a secret thing, all right. So when I 49 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 4: was a little kid, I lived in this neighborhood in 50 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: the West End in Toronto, around like a lot of 51 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 4: a lot of fiends, a lot of like like a 52 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: lot of crackheads. Like our neighborhood was a neighborhood where 53 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: the crack has just walked in, Like there would be 54 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: one hundred crack has walked in and the dealers just 55 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: stand inside and they don't have to move anywhere. 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: That's the type of neighborhood, like you know in the wire. 57 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: There was a something happened like around my neighborhood. It 58 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: was this girl, rest in peace, Holly Jones. She got 59 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: she got murdered around our neighborhood. Some pedophile guy kidnapped 60 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: her and chopped her into like a hundred pieces and 61 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: dumped her in the lake, and they found the body 62 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: with all the remainders. 63 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: That actually happened. So that was going on around the neighborhood. 64 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: The neighborhood was just like spooky at those times because 65 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: after that happened to the little girl, it was crazy. 66 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: That was super like sat in the neighborhood because she 67 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: went to the school in her neighborhood. And then like 68 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: she was missing for like a week, and then once 69 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: we found out in the news the guy lived right 70 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 4: like in the neighborhood. We walked past that house every time. 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 4: So then once they said the police kicked the door everything, 72 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: but they found the body bag in the lake in 73 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: a thousand pieces, and like it was crazy because they 74 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: actually that guy he had her in his house for 75 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: like probably four days in the in the refrigerator or 76 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: the freezer, and while he had her in there, the 77 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 4: cops actually were knocking at each door, and they knocked 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: at his door too, and he talked to them also, 79 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: like that's what they said in the news. And then yeah, 80 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: they just found out after like a week later they 81 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: found the remainings, and yeah, it was super said, we 82 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 4: couldn't really they didn't want us to walk by ourselves 83 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: in the neighborhood. You start seeing less kids walking by themselves, 84 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 4: like there was a lot of things changed, you know, 85 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: but we still went outside because like we're in a 86 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 4: larger group. And then every time after school, me and 87 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: my brothers will go walk around to the store or 88 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: we'll go we'll go walk to like our friend's house 89 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: or something. We had to always walk the furthest also, 90 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: so now we're just walking and like we're not even 91 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: talking and we're just trying to get home quick because 92 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: we're hungry, too tired. And then like one day it 93 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: was actually like a sunny day, was sunny day. It 94 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: was like six pm, summertime around like summertime times, and 95 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: had of nowhere. 96 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: He's seen this tall black scary man. He was huge. 97 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: He was like probably like six foot three something like that. 98 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: He had no noise, he had like he was super skinny. 99 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: He was serious look, serious, short hair. He had big 100 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 4: like cargo pants, extra extra large T shirt for like 101 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: a skinny guy, scary man look. So that he would 102 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: always like look at us. He would follow us, and 103 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: then we just thought it was a joke. Like then 104 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: we realized the man was following us for too long. 105 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 4: So then at some point we just ran away. He 106 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: lost them. Now like two days later we see him again. 107 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: We're just like, oh, like this guy must have just 108 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: moved in the neighborhood or something, and we're so young, 109 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: super young, being my two brothers. 110 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: And then this time he. 111 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: Followed us again, but like he's speed walking, and then 112 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: we're just saying, no way, this guy is a serial killer. 113 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: And it was kind of like funny at first, like 114 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: we kind of liked the excitement, you know, with that, 115 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: what we realized this guy's actually following us. Now it 116 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: wasn't funny, don't worry. So we're just like, this guy 117 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 4: is a serial killer. So then we started running away again. 118 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: Now and now we told our older brother and he's 119 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: just trying to look for this guy now. And now 120 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: like probably a week later now we haven't seen him 121 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: again since this day. Now a week later, we're playing 122 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: soccer and a lady. It was just me and my 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: brother and one of our friends. Now we see him 124 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: out of nowhere, and this is further than where we normally. 125 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: We don't see him in this little part of this area, 126 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: you know, so it's kind, i know, weird. He was 127 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: in the back of a you know, also where we 128 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: were playing soccer. He was walking towards us and we 129 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: seen them and then he just looks in the air 130 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: and like his eyes rolled all the way back, and 131 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: he was kind. 132 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 5: Of like shaken. 133 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: He's doing like this exorcist, look like he's getting possessed, 134 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: and how we're running and he starts chasing after us. 135 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: And then I was. 136 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: Scared because I'm like, oh fuck, these guys are gonna 137 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: leave me. These guys are faster than me. I'm gonna 138 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: get caught by myself. So I ran, like, no tomorrow, 139 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: I went in a neighbor's a neighbor's house, and the 140 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: guy would disappear. We never seen him after that. Growing up, 141 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: I realized he was just a super crackhad you know. 142 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: I don't believe it ghost that much, you know, but 143 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 4: like as a kid me seeing this this man, he 144 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: looked like a something scarier than ghost. 145 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: At that moment. 146 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: He looked like he was ready to kidnap me and 147 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 4: my brothers, and no one was see us again. 148 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: There'll be in those Sphinx, in. 149 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: The world where the monsters of our imagination vie for 150 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: space with the very real demons that walk among us. 151 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: Smiley's story is a testament to the resilience of the 152 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: human spirit, as well as a chilling reminder that sometimes 153 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: the scariest tales are those that lurk just outside our 154 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: front doors. But maybe that vivid imagination allowed him to cope, 155 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: to endure, and to eventually emerge scarred but wiser from 156 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: his gauntlet of youth. In this next story, we grapple 157 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: with the unknown against the backdrop of music, art, boxing rings, 158 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: and sacred African rituals as Narcy sets out on a 159 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: trip to shoot a music video, only to find himself 160 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: entangled in a web of phenomenon it defies logic and 161 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: transcends time. His expedition is marked by a tragic event, 162 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: the passing of boxing legend and global icon Muhammad Ali. 163 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: As they proceed with their production, Narsy and his crew 164 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: find themselves with the uncanny feeling that there's a presence nearby, 165 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: the essence of the Greatest himself, reaching across realms to 166 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: touch another artist's life. The line between the mortal and 167 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: the ethereal is often blurred, leaving us with more questions 168 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,119 Speaker 2: than answers. 169 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: So in like twenty seventeen, I had the opportunity to 170 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: collaborate with a group called a tribe called Red at 171 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: the time, they call the Hallucination Now and we got 172 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: in a studio with the Yac Bay and record song RD, 173 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: which is, you know, one of the major moments in 174 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: my career. And somebody gave me a call. One of 175 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: my friends gave me a call who was the producer 176 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: on the video, and he said, listen, we got to 177 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: go to South Africa in like four days to go 178 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: shoot the music video for this. Are you down to 179 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: direct it? So I've never directed a video. I mean, 180 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: I've always been involved in the direction of my video 181 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: has been ever like directed at myself. So I had 182 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: to come up with a concept, do all my visual research, 183 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: get on a plane. 184 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: And fly to South Africa. 185 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I've never been to the continent before, so it was 186 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: all very overwhelming. But you know, what I tend to 187 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: do in these moments in my career is like embrace 188 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: the magic and let the you know, the quote unquote 189 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: universe or allah like take take control of the whole situation. 190 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: And as soon as we got on the plane, it 191 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: was an extremely turbulent flight. You know, there was a 192 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: lot of like moments of fear. I'm already a pretty 193 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: fearful travel where to Dja cat it. But then we 194 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: landed in South Africa and as soon as we landed, 195 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: my friend walks off the plane and he's running Muhammad 196 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: Ali Jersey and we find out Muhammad Ali passed away. 197 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: We had a very like friendly kind of vibe around us, 198 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: but it was definitely like there was something that was 199 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: coming to us, and it was that news that you know, 200 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: that Muhammad Ali had died. So there was a bit 201 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: of heaviness in the air that we felt. I guess 202 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the people around us knew, but we didn't know until 203 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: we got to the apartment to the air banbing and 204 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: we get on the ground. We go meet Yah scene, 205 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: we brief him on the video idea. 206 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 5: He's down. 207 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Next day we go and location scout and as I'm 208 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: location scouting, we have this specific place that we want 209 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: to end up in as they take these old like 210 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: shipping containers and they turn them into bodega's in South Africa, 211 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: and I really wanted to hit this specific one because 212 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: the sun set right behind it as we were location scouting, 213 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: so I'm like, this is the one, right. So day two, 214 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I pick up the newspaper and I filled in the 215 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: car and we start our shot. We go to bukap 216 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: which is like the majority Muslim area in the city. 217 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: We shoot by a mosque. We only have the rights 218 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: to shoot on this specific street. And there's this kid 219 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: following me around the whole time, and it was him 220 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: in a soccer ball and he kept following me around. 221 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: So as we took a break, I started talking to him. 222 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: And he was an Arabic kid. He was playing in 223 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: the streets, so he wasn't like decked out. I remember 224 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: him being in T shirts and shorts and I looked 225 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: at him and I was like, you know, you live 226 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: around here? 227 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: He said yeah. 228 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, how old are you think? 229 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: He said like seven or eight? And then I was like, 230 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: what's your name? He's like, what's your name? I said, 231 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: my name is yees Seen. I said what's your name? 232 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: He said, my name is Mohammed Ali. And there's no 233 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: way he would have known like that. There's no way 234 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: he would have made that up. You know, no way, bro. 235 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: So you know, we went, we prayed, and then we 236 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: were a bit delayed because of traffic. Obviously, I didn't 237 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: know that Cape Town would be so busy at the 238 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: time that we were shooting. So we end up by 239 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: the corniche to shoot the scene before we go to 240 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: that bodega. But we end up like an hour late 241 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: and the sun is setting, so we shoot the video. 242 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: We shoot the final scene, A get in the car. 243 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: We missed the scene that I wanted to get by 244 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the bodega, and I grabbed the newspaper that I bought 245 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: earlier in the day and it tells the reader about 246 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: the last time Muhammad Ali was in Cape town of 247 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: what he did, and he walked from the street that 248 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: we shot on. He prayed at the mosque that we 249 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: prayed at, and then walked all the way to the 250 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: location where we shot on the corniche and ended his 251 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: day there and caught the sunset there. So for me, 252 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: it was like two things. Number one, it was that 253 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: we were guided by some know, bigger spirit than us. 254 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: You know, Mahmad Ali is really big to me and 255 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: to Yasin Bey and to the producer. I saw a 256 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: guy of the video, so we were like. 257 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: Really in awe. 258 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: So I was like, listen, guys, I need a moment 259 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: like this is a bit too eerie for me, you know, 260 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: It all felt very like guided by a spirit outside 261 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: of us. And I go by the water and there's 262 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: another little kid running towards. 263 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: Me with the soccer ball arm on the. 264 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Water and he's rocking the Montreal Canadians jersey as he 265 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: approaches me and I asked. I was like, man, your 266 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: name better not be Mahamad Ali, you know. And his 267 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: father comes with him and I was like, you know, 268 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: where are you guys from. He's like, oh, we used 269 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: to live in Montreal, but we moved to Cape Town recently. 270 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I was like, that's crazy. I just got here from Montreal. 271 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's your name and he's like, 272 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: my name is yes. And I was like, there's no 273 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: way this is happening to me right now. 274 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: You know, none of this, none of this. 275 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Is cap by the way, this is all like real, 276 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: real life events. So I remember just going back to 277 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: the hotel and really like cleansing myself and just clearing 278 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: the air and feeling like, you know, I gotta learn 279 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: to just like go and embrace the moment. But I 280 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: feel like if I let go and embrace the moment 281 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: too much, the moment might carry me away and take 282 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: me to places I might not want. 283 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: To go to. 284 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: So that's one of the stories. 285 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: Was it a coincidence or was it something far more profound? 286 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: The spirit of the greatest reaching across realms to touch 287 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: an artist's life. The line between the mortal and the 288 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: immortal is often blurred, leave us pondering what the answers 289 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: to the questions are. 290 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: We'll let you decide what's up everybody. 291 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: This is Belly and this is my hip hop horror story. 292 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: So this story is kind of like a two part story. 293 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: Starts off with something that affected me when I was 294 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: a kid. Let's say the year was probably nineteen ninety five. 295 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: I was walking home from school. There was this long 296 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: path that you can cut through, so I would always 297 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: use this path and cut through, and the whole way 298 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: walking home, it was like a cloudy day, kind of 299 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: drizzling a little bit, and I just felt like someone 300 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: was watching me. So as I'm walking towards my house, 301 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: walking alone, I kept turning around like as if someone 302 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: was there watching me. So, you know, I finally approached 303 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: the house. I'm getting to the neighborhood. 304 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: Same thing. 305 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: As soon as I get to the corner, I turned 306 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: around quickly. I felt like someone was watching me. So 307 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: now I get to the house. My older brother. 308 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: Is there. 309 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: As soon as I open the door, I go to 310 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: explain to him that it felt like someone was watching 311 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: me and he cuts me off and tells me my 312 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: grandfather passed away. 313 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: Now, something. 314 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: That I think people should know is me and my grandfather, 315 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: at a all of dozens of grandkids he had, we 316 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: had a special relationship in bond. I was like his 317 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: best friend. I was the only person that could, you know, 318 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: talk out a turn to him or you know, he 319 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: was like kids swear words with him. But you know, 320 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: he was in the army, so he was very strict 321 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: with the other grandkids, and everybody'd always be like, yo, 322 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: how come your relationship with him is so different? But 323 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: you know, I grew up kind of sick. I had, 324 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: like I was in and out of hospitals when I 325 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 2: was young, and I think he just, like, you know, 326 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: he just felt like he had a soft. 327 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: Spot for me. Because of that, I think, you know, so. 328 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: You know, I still feel like, you know, his presence 329 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: is around whenever something major happens, I can still feel him, 330 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: and I still feel his presence now because of that. 331 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: The following summer, we end up going to Jordan to 332 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: visit the family. You know, my mom wanted to see 333 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: her brothers and sisters and extended family. So we end 334 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: up in Jordan, and we're kind of moving around from 335 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: relatives to other relatives, just you know, making our rounds. 336 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: The way it works back home is like they take 337 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: it disrespectfully if you stay in a hotel. So everybody 338 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: was like, yo, this night to this night, you're over here, 339 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: so and so and so on and so forth, and 340 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, so we just ended up every like you say, 341 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: like a week, we would end up in a new 342 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 2: household of a relative. So now we end up at 343 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: my aunt's house. My cousin Bilado was there, and my 344 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: older brother Rider. So now we're all at my aunt's house. 345 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: We're playing cards every night, We're staying up and sneaking out, 346 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 2: you know, we're going out in the daytime and flipping 347 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: rocks over and finding lizards and snakes and just dumb 348 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: shit kids do, especially Arab kids. So we start to 349 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: hear about like this young girl that lives in the 350 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: same neighbor the same not neighborhood, lives in the same 351 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: house or like duplex triplex that my cousin and my 352 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: aunt lived in. So well to hear like she's been 353 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: acting weird and like. 354 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: People feel like she's possessed. 355 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: She's using like swear words that she shouldn't know stuff, 356 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: not even from our era, you know, swear words I 357 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't even understand in Arabic. She's given her grandmother 358 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: like a super hard time, and this is a really 359 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: young girl. They don't got TV, they don't got radio, so. 360 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: Super sheltered. 361 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: Seeing the little girl once and she just looked like 362 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: no one was taking care of her. Like she looked 363 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: a little disheveled. You know, her hair wasn't done. She 364 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: looked a little like skinny even for that, like she's 365 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: you know, she almost looked malnourished, Like I don't want 366 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: to say that, but she did. She just didn't look 367 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: like anyone was really properly taking care of her, you 368 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: know her her her hair wasn't done. Yeah, it looked, uh, 369 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: it looked like she just like woke up from the bed. 370 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: So that the mystery was like where could she have 371 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: learned any of this? So people started to worry, and 372 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: then you know, we kind of just told the story 373 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: and and moved on. So a few nights later, we'd 374 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: sneak out and there was a vacant apartment across from 375 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: my aunt's apartment, so we snuck out, got into the 376 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: vacant apartment and we wanted to smoke cigarettes. That was 377 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: the whole reason we snuck out. We wanted to s 378 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: smoke cigarettes and drink soda at night, and the moms 379 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't let us do that cause we would stay up 380 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: all night. That night for me at least, felt weird 381 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: from the beginning. The weather wasn't like it usually is. 382 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: It was a little cooler that day, so we snuck 383 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: out some glass bottle Coca Cola, brought it. 384 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: Into the vacant spot. 385 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: We went and bought a pack of cigarettes earlier that 386 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: day because you could buy cigarettes are like three, and 387 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: you know, we had the cigarettes. They lit up cigarettes. 388 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: I was younger than them by like five years. My 389 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: older cousin, Bilad and my older brother, so I was 390 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: younger than them by at least five years, and they 391 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: were kind of like trying to be the authority on me, 392 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, pass it past that shit, bro. 393 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: They were like, nah, you're too young. So we having 394 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: this argument and then we just hear a screech and 395 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: we all stopped and looked at each other. It was 396 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: like blood curdling. We all looked at each. 397 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: Other, like what the hell's going on. Then boomed, it 398 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: happened again. 399 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: So my cousin was like, it's probably two cats fighting, 400 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: like two street cats going at it. 401 00:23:59,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: You know. 402 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: They're like they're like fucking ninjas, those street cats. They'll 403 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: jump off of shit twelve feet high. They do spins 404 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: all kinds and then they be screaming. So we're like, yeah, 405 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: for sure, a couple of straight cats. Then it starts 406 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: to intensify. Now we're hearing swear words, you know, mixed 407 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: in screaming. I'm talking vile shit. I'm not talking like 408 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: light swear words like this is shit i'd be embarrassed 409 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: to say in front of most people. So now we're 410 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: actually really scared. Hair stands up. I'm like, I just 411 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: want to go home. I want to just I wanna 412 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: get on a plane to Canada at this point, but 413 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: you know, keeps going, and then we. 414 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: Start to hear prayer. 415 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: So there's somebody praying, and the prayer keeps getting louder 416 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: and louder, and the person. 417 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: Being exerciseless. 418 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: It was getting louder even in the prayer, and it 419 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: kept going and going and going, and this went on 420 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: for three or four hours, and as soon as the 421 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: sun started, the crack. Everything stopped me and it was 422 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: like silence, and I wasn't on I mean, I drank 423 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: coca cola. I was probably on a sugar rush, but 424 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep regardless. It was the scariest, like the 425 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: sound that I ever heard in my life. And we 426 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: couldn't just sneak back into the into my aunt's house 427 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: because at this point we knew there was a lot 428 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: of like things that could have woke up the house, 429 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: so we wanted them to just think we were sleeping. 430 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: So we had to post up in. 431 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: The vacant apartment, and the wind weren't even really set 432 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: up properly, so some of the windows were kind of 433 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: like six inches eight inches open and we couldn't close them. 434 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: It was like screws. So we're literally having to sit. 435 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: In this room with no furniture, so everything's echoing off 436 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: the walls, and we're listening to what I believe to 437 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: be a live exorcism. So we decide to not tell anybody. 438 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: We decided to keep it kind of like a pack 439 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: between us, and probably like five days later, we're outside, 440 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: you know, we're like shooting marbles or something, and the 441 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: grandma walks out with the little girl, and like it 442 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: was like it was like any story that they had 443 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: told before about craziness wasn't there. It was just a 444 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: grandma her granddaughter walking to the store. I don't know, 445 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: if memory serves me right, I think she was even skipping, 446 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: you know. So I don't know what I witnessed that night. 447 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it was definitely a night that 448 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: that I always remember in a sound that I'll never forget. 449 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: A