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Speaker 4: To Shades of the Afterlife. Do you believe in synchronicities
Speaker 4: and coincidences? I have had them in my life and
Speaker 4: I bet you have too. In fact, psychology Professor doctor
Speaker 4: Bernard Bidman wrote a great book Meaningful Coincidences, How and
Speaker 4: Why Synchronicity and Serendipity Happen, which led me to create
Speaker 4: this episode for you today. Doctor Bidman's work led me
Speaker 4: to stees, in particular the spiritually transformative experiences of doctor
Speaker 4: Yvonne Cason. Now, we've heard of near death experiences, but
Speaker 4: many people believe these only happen when someone flatlines on
Speaker 4: an operating table. For instance, doctor Cason believes near death
Speaker 4: experiences fall under the umbrella of something even bigger, spiritually
Speaker 4: transformative experiences, where consciousness can often leave our bodies and
Speaker 4: we are forever changed and often have after effects like
Speaker 4: psychic awareness and wishing to better humanity. Today, I'd like
Speaker 4: to share some of doctor Cason's coincidences and experiences. She's
Speaker 4: the author of several books, including Touched by the Light
Speaker 4: and Soul Lessons from the Light. You can find out
Speaker 4: more at Spiritual Awakenings International dot org and the YouTube
Speaker 4: channels connecting with Coincidence, and also find Spiritual Awakenings International.
Speaker 4: Here's doctor Yvonne Cason.
Speaker 1: On Matavac plane crash and your death experience happened to
Speaker 1: me in nineteen seventy nine, when I was a medical
Speaker 1: resident at the University of Toronto. I was completing my
Speaker 1: residency and I was assigned against my will, which that
Speaker 1: might be meaningful coincidence right there, that some bloop in
Speaker 1: the schedule, I ended up being sent somewhere I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be, but there I was in northern Ontario
Speaker 1: in the middle of winter, in a very small, remote
Speaker 1: community called Sioux Lookout that was servicing Native Indian communities
Speaker 1: that lived very remote parts of northern Ontario. On this
Speaker 1: particular day, which was March twenty seventh, nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: my supervising position assigned me to accompany a patient on
Speaker 1: a metavac because we were just at a tiny little
Speaker 1: community hospital and she was very ill with miesels meningitis
Speaker 1: and she needed to go into an ICU. So a
Speaker 1: plane was going to fly us to Winnipeg, which was
Speaker 1: the closest large community that had ICU facilities that could
Speaker 1: accept her. And back then we didn't have helicopters for metavax.
Speaker 1: This was a small twin engine airplane called a piper
Speaker 1: Aztec and it was a tiny little thing with a
Speaker 1: plane was loaded. There was the pilot and the co
Speaker 1: pilot seat. There's no copilot, just the pilot. They removed
Speaker 1: the seat behind the pilot and that's where they placed
Speaker 1: the stretcher with the patient on it, and that went
Speaker 1: right to the back of the plane. There was like
Speaker 1: a little bench seat at the back of the plane.
Speaker 1: I was the full plane, that's how long the plane was.
Speaker 1: And on the co pilot side, I was sitting in
Speaker 1: the seat behind the co pilot. The seat behind me
Speaker 1: was the nurse. And then again the plane was full,
Speaker 1: so that was the size of the plane we were in.
Speaker 1: Now we flew off. The patient was intubated, so she
Speaker 1: had an airway into her lungs and there was a
Speaker 1: bag called an amboo bag that I had to be
Speaker 1: compressing to keep her breathing. She was unconscious and she
Speaker 1: had two ibs going, so the nurse was tending on
Speaker 1: the ivs. So my focus was very much untending the patient.
Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, there was the meaningful coincidence that happened
Speaker 1: when I was in the doctor's lumb getting ready to
Speaker 1: go on the plane. At that time, I was quite young.
Speaker 1: I was in my twenties. I was extremely weight conscious,
Speaker 1: and I never ate things like cookies or sweets or pastries,
Speaker 1: and there in the doctor's lounge was a plate of
Speaker 1: cookies that doctors could snack on, you know, between patients
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I remember having this clear thought come
Speaker 1: in my mind, I better eat a cookie because I'm
Speaker 1: going to need the energy later. And it was one
Speaker 1: of those thoughts where you go, where did that focus from?
Speaker 1: You know, it was really strong and really clear. So
Speaker 1: I think that was the first meaningful coincidences, Like I
Speaker 1: reached in and I actually ate a couple of these cookies,
Speaker 1: which is really really out of character for how I
Speaker 1: was sort of obsessively weight conscious at that point of
Speaker 1: my life. I was still single back then, so that
Speaker 1: for me was sort of the first very clear, meaningful coincidence.
Speaker 1: That day, they gave us heavy winter parkas, and I
Speaker 1: wore my heavy snow boots, et cetera to go out
Speaker 1: in the cold web because it was the middle of winter.
Speaker 1: I went out in the plane and I was attending
Speaker 1: the patient. The plane took go off and we flew
Speaker 1: into a bad storm, a blizzard of some sort of
Speaker 1: winter storm, and there was really really high turbulence and
Speaker 1: the plane was shaking, but I wasn't really looking outside.
Speaker 1: I mean I would glance every now and then because
Speaker 1: I was really focusing on looking after the patient who
Speaker 1: was critically ill. But all of a sudden I could
Speaker 1: hear because it was a twin propeller plane, and if
Speaker 1: you've ever been on a propeller plane, you know, the
Speaker 1: engines are really loud and you can hear them, right.
Speaker 1: And I was only like ten feet away from each propeller,
Speaker 1: that's how small the plane was, so I could hear
Speaker 1: a change in the sound that all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the one propeller, if I believe it was the one on
Speaker 1: the right, started sputtering to a stop. And I looked
Speaker 1: out the window and I could see the propeller slowing down.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be an MD to
Speaker 1: realize this is not good, you know. So I shouted
Speaker 1: up to the pilot, what's going on, what's happening, and
Speaker 1: he ignored me, but he was like pushing levers and
Speaker 1: pulling stuff, and it was obviously he was trying to
Speaker 1: restart the engine, right, and he did manage to get
Speaker 1: it restarted, and then I sort of okay, side to
Speaker 1: sigh of relief, and then I went back to looking
Speaker 1: after that patient. A few minutes later, I again't hear
Speaker 1: a change in the sound of the engines, and this
Speaker 1: time it's the left engine. It's the opposite engine that
Speaker 1: it now is sputtering to a stop. And I looked
Speaker 1: up and I noticed that the pilot he had lowered
Speaker 1: or altitude, so we weren't flying so high anymore. We
Speaker 1: were much lower over the trees. But I just noticed that,
Speaker 1: which later I found out he did that on purpose
Speaker 1: in case something went wrong. I hollered up to the
Speaker 1: pilot again, what's going on, what's going on? And he's,
Speaker 1: you know, pulling levers and doing this and doing that again,
Speaker 1: trying to start the engine. And then I hear and
Speaker 1: see that the original one that had stopped now was
Speaker 1: also sputtering to a stop. So that meant we had
Speaker 1: no engines, and the plane started going down really rapidly
Speaker 1: towards the ground, started crashing. My immediate reaction was like
Speaker 1: a reflex intense fear and panic. I remember the thought,
Speaker 1: oh God help, I'm going to die. Interestingly enough, it
Speaker 1: was right after that thought leapt out of my heart
Speaker 1: is when what I now know was a near death experience.
Speaker 1: When my experience began. So this was before the plane
Speaker 1: had even crashed. And what happened was all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it was like I could feel a force field of
Speaker 1: peace descending on me. And it was literally like it
Speaker 1: was pushing down all of my fear, and I felt
Speaker 1: incredibly peaceful, very very calm. My fear had gone. And
Speaker 1: then I heard an inner voice. Now I had never
Speaker 1: heard inner voices before this event. This was the very
Speaker 1: first time I'd ever heard an inner voice, Like I
Speaker 1: was literally hearing the voice, and it sounded like a
Speaker 1: masculine voice. And I heard the voice and it said,
Speaker 1: be still and know that I am God. I am
Speaker 1: with you now and always. And with those words came
Speaker 1: this profound feeling that just permeated my soul that everything
Speaker 1: was right with the universe, that there was absolutely nothing
Speaker 1: to be afraid. Now I was still fully, conscious fully alert.
Speaker 1: The plane had not crashed yet. We were descending with
Speaker 1: horrible turbulence. If you wonder what it's like to be
Speaker 1: in a plane crash, well there's bad turbulence. You won't
Speaker 1: miss it. So we were descending towards the ground. What
Speaker 1: I later found out is that the pilot had asleep
Speaker 1: and flying low in case there was a mishap, and
Speaker 1: he had pulled his wheels up and he was trying
Speaker 1: to do a guided belly landing basically on the surface
Speaker 1: of a frozen lake, and really heroically he did sort
Speaker 1: of manage to do that to get us down to
Speaker 1: avoid crashing into the trees, because it's heavily forested up there,
Speaker 1: but with lots of lakes too, So we'd gotten this
Speaker 1: over a lake and avoided the trees, and he was
Speaker 1: trying to do it safe belly landing. But the problem
Speaker 1: was when the plane skidded to a stop, the weight
Speaker 1: of the plane quickly broke the ice. Ice was too thin.
Speaker 1: The plane nose dived and then it sunk into very
Speaker 1: deep water. So I had to get out of the
Speaker 1: plane really really quickly while the plane was sinking, and
Speaker 1: so I managed to sort of with the pilot's help,
Speaker 1: get the co pilot's door open. I climbed out. I
Speaker 1: was already up to my thighs in ice cold lake water,
Speaker 1: standing on the wing that was underneath the co pilot
Speaker 1: store and I was trying to pull the patient stretcher.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get her floating on her stretcher
Speaker 1: to come out of the co pilot store and then
Speaker 1: suddenly the pilot shouts out, get away from the plane.
Speaker 1: It's going down. And I reached in and I got
Speaker 1: the nurse and I pulled her out because she was
Speaker 1: trying to push the stretcher from behind. So then the
Speaker 1: two of us were on the wing and we were
Speaker 1: trying to pull the patient stretcher out. Well, the plane
Speaker 1: nos dive, but we were unable to and the plane
Speaker 1: this suddenly just did its nose dive and down into
Speaker 1: very deep water. So unfortunately we lost the patient. She
Speaker 1: went down with the plane, but the nurse, the pilot,
Speaker 1: and I were now in open, frigid water. The place
Speaker 1: that we had crashed, we later found out, is called
Speaker 1: Devil's Gap on the Lake of the Woods close to Kenora,
Speaker 1: and it's called Devil's Gap because it has a really
Speaker 1: really strong current there, which makes the water very treacherous
Speaker 1: in the summer and in the winter, and in the
Speaker 1: winter the ice never freezes there, So of all the
Speaker 1: places for us to crash, if we'd been somewhere else
Speaker 1: the ice was thick, we might have been fine. But no,
Speaker 1: we crashed right at the edge of Devil's Gap, where
Speaker 1: the ice was thin. Plane sunk, and in order to
Speaker 1: get to the closest land we would have to swim
Speaker 1: from where we were across the Devil's Gap two hundred
Speaker 1: yards of fast moving current, heavy winter close. So there
Speaker 1: I was. The three of us were in the water.
Speaker 1: The pilot started shouting out, try to get on the ice,
Speaker 1: try to get out in the ice, because if we
Speaker 1: looked away from land out towards the lake, you could
Speaker 1: see some ice that way, but we didn't know how
Speaker 1: thick that ice was. Again, I heard a voice in
Speaker 1: my mind and it said, swim to shore.
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 4: with doctor Yvonne Cayson. You're listening to Shades of the
Speaker 4: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Pirinormal
Speaker 4: Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
Speaker 4: Sandra Champlain, and you're listening to the meaningful coincidences, near
Speaker 4: death and spiritually transformative experiences of doctor Yvonne Cason. Last
Speaker 4: we left her, the small medical plane had landed on
Speaker 4: the ice. The ice had broken, the plane sunk into
Speaker 4: the water, leaving the pilot, Yvonne, and the nurse to survive.
Speaker 4: Let's continue.
Speaker 1: The three of us were in the water. The pilot
Speaker 1: started shouting out trying to get on the ice, to
Speaker 1: get out in the ice, because if we looked away
Speaker 1: from land out towards the lake, you could see some
Speaker 1: ice that way, but we didn't know how thick that
Speaker 1: ice was. Again, I heard a voice in my mind
Speaker 1: and it said swim to shore. And I remember this
Speaker 1: so clearly that I now call it higher guidance, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't used to it back then, so I in
Speaker 1: fact argued with I remember in my mind thinking, I'm
Speaker 1: never going to swim ashore. You know, I took lifeguarding
Speaker 1: and they tell you in a boating accident not to
Speaker 1: swim to shore, that you're going to drown on the
Speaker 1: way to shore, that you're not supposed to stay where
Speaker 1: you are. So I literally mentally argued with my inner guidance,
Speaker 1: which was a learning lesson for me. Anyway, I tried
Speaker 1: to get on the ice. I swam towards the ice,
Speaker 1: and you have to realize when you're wearing heavy winter
Speaker 1: clothes like a heavy parka and snow boots, they're like
Speaker 1: lead weights pulling me down into the water. So it
Speaker 1: was a lot of effort to even get over to
Speaker 1: the ice to try and get on, And another meaningful coincidence,
Speaker 1: I was an extremely strong swimmer. I used to do
Speaker 1: swimming laps, broat crawl is my favorite form of exercise.
Speaker 1: I was certified as a lifeguard and a swim instructor
Speaker 1: since I was a teenager, so I was a very
Speaker 1: strong swimmer. Again, another meaningful coincidence that kept me alive
Speaker 1: in this cratch. As I tried to get on the ice,
Speaker 1: every time I got my arms on the ice, the
Speaker 1: ice would break just from the weight of my arms,
Speaker 1: and there was just no way that I could crawl on.
Speaker 1: And I was getting more tired and more tired with
Speaker 1: the effort and the kicking of trying to get on
Speaker 1: the ice, and the voice repeated, swim to the shore.
Speaker 1: The third time the voice repeated swim to shore. I
Speaker 1: finally surrendered to it and started swimming to shore. Now.
Speaker 1: I hope I would realize when I get that kind
Speaker 1: of guidance to listen the first time. Father well, iving
Speaker 1: to wait till the third time, So I turned and
Speaker 1: I started swimming to shore. Now. It was a very
Speaker 1: long and a very difficult swim somewhere in the process
Speaker 1: of swimming to shore, I started going under. You know
Speaker 1: that just set of exhaustion, I would go under and
Speaker 1: my throat would fill with water. I would just use
Speaker 1: all my strength and all my well parent, all my
Speaker 1: adrenaline to try and clawn my way up to the
Speaker 1: surface again, to get my mouth above water, and you know,
Speaker 1: try and breathe some air in and then to continue
Speaker 1: swimming to shore. So it was a very very difficult swim.
Speaker 1: Then part way in swimming to shore is when you know,
Speaker 1: now I can use the vocabulary, my near death experience deepened.
Speaker 1: But I'll describe to you what I experienced. So I'm
Speaker 1: part way to swimming to shore, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden I heard this loud, inner sort of whushing or
Speaker 1: noisy roaring sound like like the war of a waterfalls.
Speaker 1: And I feel my point of perception just who rise
Speaker 1: up above my body and suddenly, I mean, my body's
Speaker 1: still alive, my body's still swimming. I'm finding most of
Speaker 1: my consciousness about twenty or thirty feet above my body.
Speaker 1: But it was more complicated than that, because now with
Speaker 1: split screen TVs and zoom people can get it. It
Speaker 1: was like there was the largest part of my consciousness,
Speaker 1: which is like the big image on the screen, was
Speaker 1: up above my body. But there was still a small
Speaker 1: part of my consciousness, like a small screen in the
Speaker 1: corner of the big screen, that was still in my body.
Speaker 1: So actually my consciousness was two places at the same time.
Speaker 1: It seems inexplicable, but that is what I was experiencing.
Speaker 1: Most of my consciousness now was up above my body,
Speaker 1: and then the bulk of my consciousness rose higher and
Speaker 1: I went into this place staked. It's hard to use
Speaker 1: the words. What I experienced was ProSound, unconditional, powerful love,
Speaker 1: while I was also experiencing beautiful white light. Many people
Speaker 1: talk about it as a white light realm, and I
Speaker 1: purposely said that last because the most powerful part of
Speaker 1: it for me was not the light. It was the love,
Speaker 1: the powerful, unconditional love that I was feeling. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was in a space that was filled with light. The
Speaker 1: best that I have been able to find that somewhat
Speaker 1: is similar to what I experienced in this light filled,
Speaker 1: love filled realm. Is when you're in a plane that's
Speaker 1: rising and just at the top of the clouds before
Speaker 1: it's going to go into the sunlight above the clouds
Speaker 1: where it's all sparkly and bright and diffused white light
Speaker 1: around you. That's what it was like when I was
Speaker 1: in the white light realm that was diffused, was beautiful,
Speaker 1: But the most powerful part was what I was feeling.
Speaker 1: I felt this profound unconditional love, and I was home,
Speaker 1: that all was right with the universe, that all was perfect.
Speaker 1: For instant I saw a face of light and then
Speaker 1: it sort of disappeared into the periphery, the cloud like periphery.
Speaker 1: I just somehow knew things when I was in this
Speaker 1: realm of light, not because they were spoken to me
Speaker 1: or told to me by somebody or something. I just
Speaker 1: somehow knew. I knew that what I was experiencing was
Speaker 1: the profound unconditional love of the Higher Power, or what
Speaker 1: I had been taught in my religion of childhood to
Speaker 1: call God. And what I was experiencing God to be
Speaker 1: was not anything like what I'd been taught. It was
Speaker 1: not an old man with a long white feard sitting
Speaker 1: on a throw judging you have you good of you
Speaker 1: been bad? That was not what I was experiencing God
Speaker 1: or the Higher Power to be. What I was experiencing
Speaker 1: was that God or the Higher Power is like a force,
Speaker 1: infinitely vast and infinitely intelligent and infinitely loving force that
Speaker 1: interpenetrates all of creation and non creation, past, present, future.
Speaker 1: Everything is like the substance, the stuff that all of
Speaker 1: us are interpenetrated with. I knew also without being told
Speaker 1: I this somehow knew that me. What I think of
Speaker 1: is I would live on whether that physical body that
Speaker 1: was struggling to swim to shore survived or not to
Speaker 1: fear deathless impossible in the state, I already knew, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is great, this is home, and this is where
Speaker 1: I stay. That body doesn't make it to shore anyway,
Speaker 1: I stayed, you know, for timeless time in this state
Speaker 1: of love and mystical communion is the best I can
Speaker 1: describe it. And my body below was struggling to swim
Speaker 1: to shore. So it looked like my body was not
Speaker 1: going to be able to make it to shore because
Speaker 1: my body was just too physically exhausted. And by this
Speaker 1: time I was also profoundly hypothermic. And I remember that
Speaker 1: I was looking through my physical eyes. You know, It's
Speaker 1: as if my focus had shifted. The two screens has
Speaker 1: shifted for an instant, and now the big screen was
Speaker 1: looking through my physical eyes of my body, and I
Speaker 1: saw that I was about twenty feet from shore and
Speaker 1: the strong current was carrying me to the right. I
Speaker 1: knew I couldn't make it. I remember thinking, oh, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going to die, and I basically surrender, like to
Speaker 1: go under for the third time. But just then, as
Speaker 1: I looked out in my physical eyes, I could see
Speaker 1: that the current was carrying me to the right, and
Speaker 1: by meaningful coinstance, a tall pine tree had fallen some
Speaker 1: time ago. I guess into the water from the shore
Speaker 1: of the island and was sticking out into the water,
Speaker 1: and the current was actually carrying me towards this pine tree.
Speaker 1: So all that I had to do was swim one
Speaker 1: more stroke and the current would carry me. And that's
Speaker 1: what happened. In my hand hit that pine tree. I
Speaker 1: remember clearly when I touched the tree, I didn't feel anything.
Speaker 1: My hand was so frozen, and I remember looking at
Speaker 1: my hand and thinking, you know, your intellectual mind still
Speaker 1: going that's odd. My hand is bright red. I think
Speaker 1: it should be white when a frozen. But later I
Speaker 1: found out in advanced stages hypothermia, you lose the ability
Speaker 1: to vasoconstrict and then you vasodilate, and actually you're very
Speaker 1: close to death when that happens with hypothermia. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: managed to pull myself along this tree and climb over
Speaker 1: some ice piles that were on the shore and get
Speaker 1: onto the shore. And then I turned around and started
Speaker 1: shouting out to the pilot and to the nurse, swimmed ashore,
Speaker 1: swim ashore, or you can do it. I did it,
Speaker 1: and then I instinctively got into the crouch position with
Speaker 1: my fingers toocked into my armpits because I was profoundly
Speaker 1: hypothermic at that time, and waited the pilot. He managed
Speaker 1: to swim to shore. After I started shouting out. He
Speaker 1: followed me, so he made it to shore too. He
Speaker 1: was also a very strong swimmer. The nurse who could
Speaker 1: not swim, managed to find a piece of ice that
Speaker 1: had some wood frozen in it, so it was enough
Speaker 1: to keep her afloat, you know, at least with her
Speaker 1: mouth above the water, and she literally froze onto that
Speaker 1: like a human icicle. And that's what she was like
Speaker 1: when the rescue helicopter came. So let me tell you
Speaker 1: all the coincidences that led to the rescue. So when
Speaker 1: we crashed, when we were actually in distress before we
Speaker 1: lost the second engine, I now know because I've spoken
Speaker 1: to the pilot on numerous occasions. We're still in contact.
Speaker 1: We actually had a reunion a plane correction online this year, wonderful. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he had been radioing to the ground, you know, to
Speaker 1: the closest airport, which was Kenora Airport, that we were
Speaker 1: having engine trouble and we needed to make an emergency landing,
Speaker 1: and so they were trying to radio him how to
Speaker 1: get to a closest airstrip or something where he could land.
Speaker 1: But of course, naturally we never made it to that airstrip.
Speaker 1: So at least somebody knew that we were having trouble.
Speaker 1: So that was step number one. Then when we actually crashed, okay,
Speaker 1: and as the plane was thinking, the pilot stood out
Speaker 1: on the wing on his side by the pilot store,
Speaker 1: and he radioed out in may day, may day, may day,
Speaker 1: you know, plane down or whatever it is that they
Speaker 1: say when they rade out a may day. Now, because
Speaker 1: where we crashed was in very hilly terrain, the islands
Speaker 1: at hills and they were all forested. The only way
Speaker 1: somebody really could have picked up the may day is
Speaker 1: if there was an airplane flying almost directly overhead.
Speaker 4: I promise we'll pick right back up where we left off.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the
Speaker 4: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast Day m
Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 4: I'm Sanders Plane and now doctor Yvonne is talking about
Speaker 4: some of the coincidences that happened with the plane crash.
Speaker 1: As the plane was thinking, the pilot stood up on
Speaker 1: the wing on his side by the pilot store, and
Speaker 1: he radioed out in may day, may day, may day,
Speaker 1: you know, plane down or whatever it is that they
Speaker 1: say when they rade out a may day. Now. Because
Speaker 1: where we crashed was in very hilly terrain, the islands
Speaker 1: at hills and they were all forested. The only way
Speaker 1: somebody really could have picked up the may day is
Speaker 1: if there was an airplane flying almost directly overhead, and
Speaker 1: there was so by coincidence, by meaningful coincidence. There was
Speaker 1: a regularly scheduled Air Canada flight from Edmonton I believe
Speaker 1: it was to Toronto that was flying very very high overhead,
Speaker 1: and they picked up the Mayday message and they knew
Speaker 1: almost exactly where we were, so they were able to
Speaker 1: radio down to the ground. So the Kenora Airport got
Speaker 1: the message that oh, approximately here there is the plane
Speaker 1: that's down. Okay, so they know where we are and
Speaker 1: that we have crashed, But how are they going to
Speaker 1: get to us? We swam to an island, right. It
Speaker 1: was not accessible by skiddoo, which is what a lot
Speaker 1: of people use in the winter, because there was open
Speaker 1: water next to the island. It was not accessible by
Speaker 1: boat because there's ice before you get to the water.
Speaker 1: It's not accessible by road because there were no roads
Speaker 1: to the island. So the only vehicle that could possibly
Speaker 1: have rescued us was helicopters. And normally there are no
Speaker 1: helicopters anywhere in this area, so how could we be rescued? Well,
Speaker 1: by meaningful coincidence, on that particular day, there was an
Speaker 1: empty helicopter being fery from Winnipeg to Baldore, Quebec, and
Speaker 1: it ran into the same snowstorm that we did, so
Speaker 1: it decided to land until the storm had passed. By coincidence,
Speaker 1: at what's called the Ministry of Natural Resources base, five
Speaker 1: miles from where we crashed and it had just landed.
Speaker 1: It had just landed, and the helicopter pilot said he
Speaker 1: was starting to, you know, like cover up the propellers
Speaker 1: and all the things he does. He went inside the
Speaker 1: base and met the pilot who was in the base
Speaker 1: we'd never met before. He still had the radio on
Speaker 1: whatever frequency they have on at the base, so they
Speaker 1: heard the message from Kenora Airport. We just got a
Speaker 1: may day that there is a plane down in such
Speaker 1: and such a location. Is there anybody nearby who could
Speaker 1: look for them? And these two fellows, their name is
Speaker 1: Bob Grant and Brian Klig. They never met each other,
Speaker 1: two pilots, they didn't even think. They both went into
Speaker 1: the helicopter and they immediately went to where the plane
Speaker 1: was reported to go down, and they started looking for us. Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't know that we crashed and sank into the
Speaker 1: only piece of open water for hundreds of miles. They
Speaker 1: were looking for wreckage. They were looking for wreckage in
Speaker 1: trees or wreckage in the ice, because everything else is
Speaker 1: frozen solid except Devil's Cap at this time of year.
Speaker 1: Their first fly by, they didn't even see us. They
Speaker 1: just kept on searching. You have to remember, this is
Speaker 1: a stom with blowing snow, and they're looking for wreckage.
Speaker 1: They didn't see any wreckage. They didn't see us huddled
Speaker 1: under the trees, and it was fully forested island or
Speaker 1: the nurse like an icicle in open water. Then, again
Speaker 1: by coincidence, if you want to call it, that some
Speaker 1: floatable item we don't know what it was was came
Speaker 1: out of the sunken plane and floated to the surface.
Speaker 1: It might have been I don't know, a seat cushion
Speaker 1: or something that floats. Anyway, was on Devil's Gap. And
Speaker 1: so when they couldn't find us, they said, well, there
Speaker 1: was something on the water in Devil's Gap. Could they
Speaker 1: possibly have gone down in the one place for this
Speaker 1: open water? So they came back and again the coincidence
Speaker 1: of whatever that was that floated to the surface, they
Speaker 1: came back closer. And when they came back for a
Speaker 1: closer look, and they came back real low because of
Speaker 1: the visibility, is when they saw the nurse frozen holding
Speaker 1: on to a piece of ice, and at first they
Speaker 1: thought she was the only survivor. They realized the plane
Speaker 1: had gone down, so they very very heroically dragged her
Speaker 1: body along the ice until they got to a place
Speaker 1: where the ice was strong enough to even support her weight.
Speaker 1: Then Bob managed to sort of wed her into the
Speaker 1: co pilot's seat, but then he couldn't get the helicopter.
Speaker 1: And so how they actually flew with her to the
Speaker 1: closest hospital, which was Canora Hospital, was that Bob was
Speaker 1: standing outside the helicopter on the strut sort of wedging
Speaker 1: the door shut to keep the nurse's body in there,
Speaker 1: while Brian flew the helicopter to Canora Hospital. So they
Speaker 1: brought her there and then the two of them said, well,
Speaker 1: let's go back and see if there's anybody else. And
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that when the pilot, whose
Speaker 1: name was Jerry Kushensky and I, who were waiting on
Speaker 1: shore freezing to death when they left, we were waving
Speaker 1: and waving and shouting and shouting, but actually the helicopter
Speaker 1: was facing away from us, and obviously the helicopter pilots
Speaker 1: were focused on trying to rescue the nurse theory pulling
Speaker 1: out of the water. It seemed they had not seen us,
Speaker 1: so we didn't know if they'd come back. And it
Speaker 1: was a really really long period of time. It was
Speaker 1: until they came back. I really didn't know if they
Speaker 1: would be coming back to look for us, but they
Speaker 1: had thought, thank goodness, well let's go back and see
Speaker 1: just in case there are any other survivors that we
Speaker 1: didn't see in the water. So first they looked in
Speaker 1: the water, but then they saw us on shore. Well,
Speaker 1: again by coincidence, a little bit up to the right
Speaker 1: of where I was, there was a small inlet in
Speaker 1: the island. They brought the helicopter over there, so they
Speaker 1: gestured us to walk over to the helicopter. I was
Speaker 1: so hypothermic and I don't know, semi conscious, relapsing in
Speaker 1: and out of consciousness. At that point, there was no
Speaker 1: way I could walk that distance to the helicopter. So
Speaker 1: Bob Grant, again, the one that could not swim, He
Speaker 1: got out of the helicopter, walked across that ice, not
Speaker 1: knowing how thick the ice on the inlet was or
Speaker 1: how deep the water was, walked over the little hill
Speaker 1: and got me and sort of like slung me and
Speaker 1: have sort of dragged me, carried me over and brought
Speaker 1: me into the helicopter. The pilot, Jerry Koshinsky, was able
Speaker 1: to get into the helicopter. So then they had both
Speaker 1: of us in the helicopter and they brought us to
Speaker 1: Kenora Hospital. Now I remember watching from above because once
Speaker 1: I was in the helicopter, I think I lost consciousness.
Speaker 1: I stopped having awareness of my body, and it was
Speaker 1: just that I was watching my body. I watched from
Speaker 1: above as they landed on the driveway at the hospital
Speaker 1: and the emergency room staff. They put us each on
Speaker 1: a stretcher and put us in the emergency department. And
Speaker 1: I remember watching from above as a nurse was trying
Speaker 1: to take my temperature. She was using a standard mercury thermometer,
Speaker 1: and I remember she was puzzled. She was looking at
Speaker 1: it like, why was she not getting a temperature reading
Speaker 1: on my body? Well, my body temperature was below the
Speaker 1: bottom reading on a standard mercury thermometer, which is why
Speaker 1: she was not getting a temperature reading. I could feel
Speaker 1: my consciousness drifting further and further away from my body.
Speaker 1: I knew I was dying. That's okay, I mean I
Speaker 1: was in the light. I knew I was dying. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I hear a voice, boy, could I
Speaker 1: use a hot bath? I remember being very surprised to
Speaker 1: discover that those words came out of my mouth, my
Speaker 1: physical body's mouth, because I'd not been thinking that, I'd
Speaker 1: not been trying to say it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: my guardian angels spoke through my mouth or what happened,
Speaker 1: but here's your meaningful coincidence. That's exactly what we needed.
Speaker 1: We needed to be submerged in hot water. We needed
Speaker 1: to be reheated. They didn't realize how hypothermic and close
Speaker 1: to death I was. But when those words came out
Speaker 1: of my mouth, the nurses said to one another, I
Speaker 1: remember watching from above. Hey, maybe that would help her.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should take her down the physiotherapy put her
Speaker 1: in the hot world pulled bath, and so they did.
Speaker 1: They wheeled me and the pilot and the nurse down
Speaker 1: to the physiotherapy department, finally took off my ice encrusted clothes,
Speaker 1: put me in the hot water. It was there, as
Speaker 1: my body rewarmed, that I felt my consciousness under my body,
Speaker 1: and it was like wsh how they depict the genie
Speaker 1: being sucked into a bottle. I felt like I'd been
Speaker 1: in this expansive, wonderful place above, and suddenly some other
Speaker 1: force sucked me into the small confines of my body
Speaker 1: and then I was back. All of stes are spiritually
Speaker 1: transformed it experiences. I coined that phrase back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four in one of my earlier books and also
Speaker 1: in an article that I wrote for the Journal of
Speaker 1: Mere Death Studies. And I coined that phrase because I
Speaker 1: felt it was really important both for medicine and for
Speaker 1: the general public to have a non pathological word to
Speaker 1: describe some of the spiritual and pureanormal experiences that were
Speaker 1: happening to people. Because back when this happened to me
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, you know, I discomp did my
Speaker 1: medical training. There was nothing in medicine that would embrace
Speaker 1: the type of experience I had as real that when
Speaker 1: I spoke with all of my medical doctor friends after
Speaker 1: it happened, I wanted to tell people and if you
Speaker 1: ever heard anything like this, and what's it called? I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a word to describe my experience.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew me, they knew I wasn't crazy, but all
Speaker 1: my medical colleagues said it was a hallucination brought on
Speaker 1: by a low blood sugar hallucination brought on by an
Speaker 1: electro life and beho hallucination brought on by the cold.
Speaker 1: I don't think so it started as the plane was
Speaker 1: going down. The other thing is I've seen many people hallucinating,
Speaker 1: they don't become changed and spiritually transformed afterwards. This experience
Speaker 1: changed me in a positive way, in a spiritual way.
Speaker 1: I lost my year of death because I knew we
Speaker 1: live on after we die. I became much more spiritual,
Speaker 1: not because I was taught in my religion of childhood
Speaker 1: to be religious or spiritual, but because I knew that
Speaker 1: we were truly spiritual beings, and that what I'd been
Speaker 1: taught in the books when I was younger, that there
Speaker 1: is a God, a higher power. Maybe the way I
Speaker 1: was taught the higher power looked was not exactly accurate,
Speaker 1: but the Higher Power is real, It exists and loves
Speaker 1: us all. I became much more tolerant with people with
Speaker 1: diverse religious viewpoints and traditions because I realized we're all
Speaker 1: trying to understand the same one truth. I had a
Speaker 1: psychic awakening shortly afterwards. A few weeks afterwards, I was
Speaker 1: driving to visit a friend and I was stopped at
Speaker 1: a red light, and all of a sudden, I got
Speaker 1: a clear visual image in my mind's eye of my
Speaker 1: friend's brain covered in puss.
Speaker 4: The more interesting words by doctor Yvonne Gayson. When we
Speaker 4: get back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on
Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio and Coast to cost Am Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and you're listening to doctor Yvonne Cason, author of Touched
Speaker 4: by the Light. Now she's talking about the after effects
Speaker 4: of her experience.
Speaker 1: I had a psychic awakening shortly afterwards. A few weeks afterwards,
Speaker 1: I was driving to visit a friend and I was
Speaker 1: stopped at a red light, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I got a clear visual image in my mind's eye
Speaker 1: of my friend's brain covered in puss. And as a
Speaker 1: medical doctor, the symbology was crystal clear. I meant meningitis,
Speaker 1: and somehow I also it was my friend's brain. And anyway,
Speaker 1: to make a long story short, yes, later on that
Speaker 1: day she was taken to the emerged and diagnosed with
Speaker 1: acute meningitis. So that was my first and many clairvoyant experiences.
Speaker 1: Then I started having clear audience experiences, clear sentient experiences
Speaker 1: and for years, when I tried to understand what happened
Speaker 1: to be in the plane crash, I was told it
Speaker 1: was not a near death experience because I'd not been dead, okay,
Speaker 1: and because I hadn't seen a tunnel okay. So I said, well,
Speaker 1: if it's not a near death experience, what is it.
Speaker 1: The best word I could find was a mystical experience.
Speaker 1: For many years, for almost ten years, I called it
Speaker 1: my mystical experience that happened in the plane crash. So
Speaker 1: here's me, a young doctor. I'd had an out of
Speaker 1: body experience. I'd had a mystical experience. Now I was
Speaker 1: having all sorts of psychic experiences prior to this end.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not crazy. I mean, I'm running a
Speaker 1: metal practice, I'm teaching at the University of Toronto. But
Speaker 1: I'm keeping all of this in the closet. It's all
Speaker 1: sort of secret that these things are happening to me.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, more and more patients started
Speaker 1: coming to see me in my practice and telling me
Speaker 1: their stories. I sensed it as someone that they felt
Speaker 1: safe to talk to, an MD they felt safe to
Speaker 1: talk to, who would not immediately judge it as a
Speaker 1: hallucination or sign of mental illness. The stories I heard
Speaker 1: from people were heartbreaking. I was really really disturbed how
Speaker 1: people were being pathologized, sometimes put in psychiatric wards, sometimes
Speaker 1: by their churches, being told it's work of the devil,
Speaker 1: being estranged by their family. Why are they obsessed with this?
Speaker 1: It really became clear to me that we needed to
Speaker 1: have a greater understanding, meaning the medical profession, society in general,
Speaker 1: of spiritual experiences because they are happening to people, and
Speaker 1: they are not a sign of mental illness, and we
Speaker 1: are actually causing harm by labeling them as mental illness.
Speaker 1: That's what propelled me to come up with this term
Speaker 1: spiritually transformative experiences as an umbrella term for the wide
Speaker 1: range of spiritual and paranormal experiences that people are having
Speaker 1: today that are not signs of mental illness. They are
Speaker 1: part of a spiritual awakening process, an expansion of consciousness
Speaker 1: that's happening on the planet. We haven't mentioned my book
Speaker 1: Touched by the Light, which I released in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: where I described many of my experiences because I've had
Speaker 1: five near death experiences. Each one is different, but each
Speaker 1: one is complementary, you know. I look at it that
Speaker 1: the nature of the universe is so vast, and when
Speaker 1: you have, you know, mystical experiences or near death experience
Speaker 1: or other sorts of stes, it's like you're getting a
Speaker 1: bigger glimpse than what we normally have in our normal worldview.
Speaker 1: Those bigger glimpses, there's still much more to be seen,
Speaker 1: so the glimpses are cumulatively additive. I was elected president
Speaker 1: of in twenty nineteen. I was invited to be on
Speaker 1: the board of directors in twenty eighteen, and then I
Speaker 1: was elected president, but I stepped down from that early
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty because my passion, as I have said,
Speaker 1: going back to the seventies, has been the whole range.
Speaker 1: And how I understand it is that near death experience
Speaker 1: is our one type of spiritually transformative experience. And what
Speaker 1: felt right for my soul was I felt the need.
Speaker 1: In fact, I had a strong calling or what we
Speaker 1: sometimes call a download, where I felt guidance from spirit
Speaker 1: that I was being called to start a new organization,
Speaker 1: and I was even given the name of the organization.
Speaker 1: This happened in July of twenty nineteen. I remember clearly
Speaker 1: I was given the name of the organization Spiritual Awakenings International.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know how I would do it or
Speaker 1: when I would do it, But all I knew is
Speaker 1: that this resonated with my soul, that this was a
Speaker 1: set for me, that just looking at near death experiences
Speaker 1: was too narrow a focus. It all came together in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty with a whole series of coincidences. But I
Speaker 1: happened to meet by coincidence, Robert Beer, and once we
Speaker 1: started talking, it was actually Robert who got the download first.
Speaker 1: He says, you know, Yvonne, I'm just getting this strong
Speaker 1: intuition that we're meant to start another organization looking at
Speaker 1: all of stes or spiritually Transformed it experiences. And I
Speaker 1: of course said, well, I'll have to meditate on that.
Speaker 1: And then when I meditated on it, bang, I got
Speaker 1: my downloads. Yep, that's right. That we'll do our best
Speaker 1: for I ins while we're president and vice president some
Speaker 1: time in the future. We both felt really strongly called
Speaker 1: that we were to found another organization. Well, as it
Speaker 1: turned out, by coincidence, again, we both were clear by
Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty not we wish to step down.
Speaker 1: We were elected as president and vice president of Illans.
Speaker 1: We stepped down very cordially wish them well, but we
Speaker 1: feel called to start this new organization, so together, in
Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty, we launched Spiritual Awakenings International as
Speaker 1: a nonprofit global network incorporated as a five oh one
Speaker 1: c three nonprofit charity in the United States, and our mission,
Speaker 1: our vision is global because we know that spiritual awakenings
Speaker 1: is a human phenomenon. It's happening to people all over
Speaker 1: the world. We're focusing on all types of spiritually transformative experiences.
Speaker 1: Our goal is to raise awareness of all these types
Speaker 1: of stes spiritually transformative experiences. Secondly, to facilitate networking, because
Speaker 1: so many people or groups are sort of isolated out
Speaker 1: there and they don't realize that by invisible fingers or
Speaker 1: meaningful coincidences, there are many groups all over the world
Speaker 1: and we actually are a network and if we can
Speaker 1: connect with each other, we can strengthen each other and
Speaker 1: form a stronger mesh that is helping to raise awareness.
Speaker 1: So for us safe place to share and also where
Speaker 1: researchers can share. We have a great website with a
Speaker 1: lot of information about all different types of spiritually transformative
Speaker 1: experiences and for a lot of people, just even getting
Speaker 1: an accurate name for your type of experience is profoundly healing.
Speaker 1: We have monthly events. We have a featured speaker event
Speaker 1: always the third Saturday of the month. We have our
Speaker 1: SAI Experiences sharing circles the first Saturday each month. This
Speaker 1: is all online and it's all free. We've also now
Speaker 1: started in Spanish. The second Saturday, we have speaker events
Speaker 1: and we have sharing circles in Spanish. We are really
Speaker 1: proud to be so international. We have subscribers. Although the
Speaker 1: United States and Canada are our top subscribers for a
Speaker 1: Spiritual Weakness International, we have subscribers from sixty five countries
Speaker 1: around the world. So go to our website, which is
Speaker 1: Spiritual Awakenings International dot org and you can find out
Speaker 1: about events. And also we have a Spiritual Awakenings International
Speaker 1: YouTube channel that you can go to and you can
Speaker 1: watch videos of some of our past speakers and last
Speaker 1: year's conference. So invite people to do that if they'd
Speaker 1: like to learn more. Also, I'm a very proud grandmother.
Speaker 1: My first and only grandson was born approximately one year ago.
Speaker 1: I love being a hands on grandmother. He is my
Speaker 1: pride and joy, but my spiritual work, my volunteer work,
Speaker 1: is my other big joy. I also have a local
Speaker 1: group here in Toronto that I lead called Toronto Awakening
Speaker 1: Sharing Group. I'm retired from medical practice. We didn't have
Speaker 1: time to say that. My last near death experience in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three was because I had a serious
Speaker 1: accident with a traumatic brain injury, and that traumatic brain
Speaker 1: injury disabled me for twelve years, and then I experienced
Speaker 1: a miracle. It might be a meaningful coincidence in that
Speaker 1: since I was disabled, I focused very much on my
Speaker 1: meditation practice, and they now realize, have discovered medical science
Speaker 1: that meditation is a very strong stimulus to brain neuroplasticity.
Speaker 1: So I was doing lots and lots of meditation and
Speaker 1: deep in meditation. February of twenty sixteen, I experienced a miracle.
Speaker 1: I had an eruption of light in the center of
Speaker 1: my brain and my brain was healed. And since that
Speaker 1: time I started writing books again. I wrote that book,
Speaker 1: Touched by the Light, was the first book I wrote
Speaker 1: after my brain healing. I've written another one. I have
Speaker 1: two more that are cooking. I started volunteering public speaking.
Speaker 1: That's all been since my brain healing in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I call myself Yvonne version two point zero. That I
Speaker 1: was offline for refurbishing it for twelve years and then
Speaker 1: the Good Lord brought me back by meaningful coincidence to
Speaker 1: continue on. And I'm really really delighted and grateful to
Speaker 1: had that profound healing experience, and I'm delighted to currently
Speaker 1: be the president of Spiritual Awakenings International.
Speaker 4: Doctor Yvonne Casen is a lady who just doesn't give up.
Speaker 4: She's passionate, she's bold, She's got a sense of humor,
Speaker 4: and keeps her eye on being of service. She mentioned
Speaker 4: miraculous healing. When you think of healing, it's all mirac
Speaker 4: that our bodies can heal. Say we have a common
Speaker 4: cut or cold and knows just what to do. Speaking
Speaker 4: of intelligence, think of the instinct of animals. How do
Speaker 4: salmon's know how to swim upstream to the exact location
Speaker 4: they were born? We have an intelligent universe. Why wouldn't
Speaker 4: it make sense that in the dying process, we're greeted
Speaker 4: by our deceased loved ones, looking young and healthy, telling
Speaker 4: us we're going on a trip to get ready as
Speaker 4: we've heard in so many deathbed visitations. And then when
Speaker 4: we pass, we're drawn to the light. We have those
Speaker 4: reunions with our loved ones. We're filled with a feeling
Speaker 4: of unconditional love, colors we've never seen, celestial music. I
Speaker 4: think these are much more than meaningful coincidences. I think
Speaker 4: this is the intelligence of life and death. I want
Speaker 4: to remind you that much. My website is we Don't
Speaker 4: Die dot com. Join my Insiders Club. That's just my
Speaker 4: email list at the bottom of the page. I've got
Speaker 4: all kinds of surprise free goodies for you, and of
Speaker 4: course come meet me on one of my free Sunday gatherings.
Speaker 4: It's an inspirational and empowering service on Zoom with a
Speaker 4: medium demonstration included atweedotdie dot com. In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for spending your time with me
Speaker 4: today listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
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