WEBVTT - TGI-Episode 105 ("Killer Bees”) 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.759 Do you remember the nineties ads that were like be 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.760 the couch. Do you remember that terrible don't? ABC had 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.560 a whole thing be the couch? You couch potatoes are 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.920 your friend. I still we had those yellow It was 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.920 like it will And I do remember the argument we 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.920 got into that year. We went to the party where 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.240 there was the ABC Beginning of the Year party where 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.040 we got those like that gear because that was the 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.519 whole campaign. It was like TV is good for you, right, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.120 and so it was like this like whole and we 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.520 got all this stuff like mugs and sweaters and T 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.760 shirts or whatever. And we were driving back from the party, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.440 were driving me. It was me and then my college 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.200 girlfriend at the time, and you and we we got 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.080 into such a huge debate, and I remember like we 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.320 were screaming at each other because you were pro TV 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.119 and I was anti TV and this campaign launched this discussion, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.720 and I remember you just being like, what so it's 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.480 better for a whole family to sit around with their 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.360 noses and books. No, we're talking to each other. And 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.959 I remember I finally just had to say, will, You're 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:25.640 gonna drop us off at home? And I don't want 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.080 to talk about this anymore. It's like one of the 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.480 few times I cut off, but it ended up being 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.600 I ended up doing a whole thing in college. I 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.720 think later on that year that was actually about the negative. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.600 I did a presentation about trying to research the negative 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.880 effects of television, and I came out on the other side. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.160 It was funny. So you did change me, you know. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.800 You talk about the times when I've changed opining, and 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.640 this was a very clear time when I got so 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.320 flustered and upset with you, you know, because in part 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:53.640 I felt defending being anti TV was important to me 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.720 because I think at the time it defended it defended 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.160 the way I had been raised, you know, which made 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.440 me feel different or special from everybody. And I think 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.040 also at that time I was very frustrated with boy's 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.760 world and the sense of the lack of control I 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.640 felt in my life, and so blaming TV or thinking 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.040 that TV is this like awful monster was somehow the 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.640 way I was processing it. And I remember, you just 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.160 like cut through all that bullground. I also had a 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:20.960 friend at the time who said to me, he was like, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.960 you know, writer, you hating television and then working in 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.360 it is sort of like people that that that uh, 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.360 you know, work at tobacco companies, but that don't smoke 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.160 themselves or or talk about and it was like, right, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.960 there is some sort of ethical problem. It was, yeah, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.040 but anyway, you totally change. I remember that that college semester, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.160 I ended up doing a whole presentation about television. I 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.160 went into the history of television um and and ended 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.280 up sort of positive about You know, of course that 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:52.320 there aren't that many negative effects to television watching the necessarily, 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.839 but there's always been a moral panic around it. Every 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.640 generation is a moral panic or right, but it is 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.560 a pretty horrible campaign. I just remember, be the couch. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.239 Be the couch I have. I still have a mug 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.320 every you know, and sometimes I'll grab it just by 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.440 accidents with all my other mugs, and it just says 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.200 ABC on one side in bright yellow, the couch is 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.280 your friend. I love it. Man. I wish I had 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.000 that mug. Welcome to Pod Meets World. 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You can get all of 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.520 the shirts at Pod meets World show dot com. And 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.400 if you get your shirt, put it on, take a picture, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:59.320 put it on Instagram, tag us. We will re quote you, picture, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.240 you will instagram you, You'll be on our story. I'm young, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:08.440 so I'm really excited about this episode. Um our. Last episode, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.400 we had a fantastic opportunity to talk to Lee Uh. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.320 It was so great to have him on. He's just 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.000 incredible and so is the character of Mincus. And this 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.719 is a fantastic Mincus episode. Now, this is the first 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.520 episode you guys filmed. You talked about that in the 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.400 episode with Lee. Uh, We're we finally arrived. Episode one 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.839 oh five, the first episode you guys all recorded together 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:36.240 Killer Bees. Nicki Cox makes her appearance finally, and uh yeah, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.360 and we have the one guy as Ellis he's back 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.520 and um yeah. This synopsis is that Corey enters a 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.560 geography b for a chance to be a bat boy 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.640 at the World Series. Eric is going to an Aerosmith 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.839 concert with his date, Nicki Cox and is embarrassed that 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.760 his mom and dad are going to the same concert. Yeah. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.520 I So. The thing I remember most about this episode 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.640 not only being as nervous as I've arguably ever been 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.640 in my life, and that's saying something when you're anxiety boy, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:13.120 but I distinctly remember the scene at the end that 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.120 we'll get to. Uh was my audition piece, Like this 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.320 was These were the lines I had to say to 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.920 get the role of Eric Matthews Cot the parents being 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.920 at the same concert, And I remember the monologue almost 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.520 verbatim still because it was so important and I worked 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.640 on it and I, you know, tried to try to 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.600 make it my own, which of course it was. I 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.560 was very stiff. Eric stilldon and it. Oh it's one 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.640 of those things. We're watching it now from a comedic standpoint. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.200 I'm somehow missing two jokes in every one line, and 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.520 I just want to go back and grab myself and 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.760 be like, dude, you just missed four jokes somehow, like 0:05:54.800 --> 0:06:00.000 you could have made all of that funny. It worked 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.520 at the time, but just where the character ended up, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.520 it was like, man, that could have been so much 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.560 funnier if you do it this way. But that's what 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.359 I remember most about this episode was being nervous meeting 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.680 Nikki um and uh and this was my audition piece, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.680 Like this was how I got Eric Matthews. So this 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.799 was a fun episode to watch. And by the way, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.240 and I've said this before, we talked about how amazingly 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:25.159 is and he's incredible in this Ben had some moments 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.200 in this episode that were laugh out loud funny. So 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.919 I can't wait. Well, it was written by Michael Jacobs, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:37.839 April Kelly, and Susan Estelle Janssen. Um. I remember Susan, 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.320 but I don't. Yeah, whatever ended up happening to her? 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.400 Where did she go? Was? She just came and wrote 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.240 an episode of Girls World. You can see her when 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.520 she came back to Grom's World. She did all seven 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:53.039 seasons A boy seven. I'm pretty sure she was she 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.520 was one of our regulars. She was on her and 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.000 she was one of the writers I talked to the 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.440 most and connected with. She recommended books to me. She's 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.440 Harvard Memory Serves, Oh my gosh. Yeah, she talked about 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.640 her professors and like she's she's the first person to 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.920 tell me to read Hemingway. She told me. She was like, 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.080 you know, because of course I hadn't heard of Hemyway. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.120 But she was the one who's like, you know what, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.120 you should read A Movable Feast And still to this day, 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.520 that's like a life changing book for me. When I 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.720 was fourteen or fifteen, she told me to read that. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.320 But she was great. She was always you know, we've 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.800 talked about several we talked. We've said this about a 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.840 couple of different adults. But she was somebody who always 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.000 talked to us as equals and like would always sit 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.480 and hang out with us, and like I said, recommend 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.880 books or movies. And yeah, she's been that all seven 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.840 but she was there for at least four or five. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.720 She was there for a while. She is one of 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.400 the people in the folklore of who named to Penga. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.480 She is one of the people who who may have 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.560 named to Penga and writer. When you said when she 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.400 came back and wrote an episode of Girl Meets World, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.120 it reminded me that I think that's maybe where I 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.760 had the conversation with her, where maybe she told me 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.280 she was the one who named to Penga. Maybe maybe 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.240 I don't know, Guys, my memory gotta find this Who 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 named to Panga is the new what's the matrix? Like 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.000 that thing? Who Named? Because I want to we got 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.640 to find that that's too big a piece of television. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.080 We're going to get conflicting results. I think we're going 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.400 to have, you know, four or five different narratives and 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.720 we're gonna have to just pick one to the listener 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.240 to decide exactly we should maybe do it as a 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.120 mock trial. Each one of us will take a case 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.000 and we'll present the true crime podcast. We'll just go 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.960 off on a hole on a whole different tangent. That 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.440 will be great funny. So to start the episode, we 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.959 are in Mr Phenie's classroom. Corey is wearing two hoods, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:44.120 hoods too much, hoods too much much. He is wearing 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.199 a hooded sweatshirt and a hooded flannel and probably a 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.640 T shirt underneath. But you can't see it, but the hood. Yeah, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.679 probably a T shirt with the hood. That's what we 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.400 gotta make. So we're in. We're in Phoinie's classroom. Minus 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.040 gets the highest test score in his class. Corey gets 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.760 a C on his geography test, even though he says 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.160 he studies or that he studied. Corey argues with Mr 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.880 Feeney about the textbook, saying that geography keeps changing. And 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.240 Sean throws a paper plane at the back of mincus head. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.760 So do you remember. I know what Will is going 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.640 to say about this, because he was there too. It 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:24.520 wasn't Mincus, right, it was Limpy? Right? Is it Lemky? 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.680 So his original name was Stuart lem Key and it 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.319 lasted throughout the entire week until right before tape night. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.079 And I remember thinking Minkus was such a worse name 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.840 than lem agreed Lemky was a great name for this character. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:45.360 But apparently there really was a Stewart limp Key in Philadelphia. Philadelphia. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.960 It's so crazy. What are the chances? So apparently you 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.320 can have a name on a television show, you know 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.600 that goes through a process called clearance, where the legal 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.800 team at a studio or network goes through and checks 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.760 all the names of characters, all the references to brands 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.520 or whatever, and clears the names legally so that it's 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.160 okay to use these things. And if there's enough, if 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.559 there's a name that's common enough, like in other words, 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.520 if there's a Corey Matthews, it's likely that there are 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.920 multiple Corey Matthews in the world, or that there's enough 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.720 Corey Matthews spread throughout the country, or that it's not 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.480 one specific place with that one specific name. But it 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.680 turned out that there actually was one person named Stuart 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.600 Lemkey in Philadelphia, and because of that, that person had 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.280 a right to sue us if we use their name 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.000 unless we like contacted Stuart Lemkin said, hey, can we 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.439 name a television character after you? So rather than deal 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.360 with that, they decided to just change it to Minka's 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:44.320 which is great, amazing story. Yeah, I still here in 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.360 my head, I hear Ben going Lemkey right, But that 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:54.440 was also I remember Michael working with Ben on that beat, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.839 the like no, draw it out, make it longer. He's 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.240 like limpy right, It's he's like no, no no, no, Lemky, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.920 Like you know, Michael kind of giving a read line 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.280 reading line reading and what are you talking about Michael 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.120 One is lumpy right? You want Lemky like make it 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.080 a bit kind of thing. And so every time I 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.840 see that, now I see kind of Michael doing that 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.520 the right that was a that was a thing. Well 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.160 you could tell it was a really big favorite of 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.040 Michael's because we see it three times in it gets 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.200 called back within minutes. Um, kept trying, kept trying to 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.280 see what was gonna stick. By the way, if you 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:33.400 are Stewart Lempy, the Stewart Lemkey from Philadelphia around, please 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.080 reach out to us. Probably told at gmail dot com 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.240 we'd love to talk to you. Just awesome, that'd be great. Um. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.240 So yeah, we get Mincus. Is it Mancus? It's Mancus? 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:49.040 And then we get our opening, the absolutely crazy song. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.200 I still can't get over it. I've now started skipping it. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.280 I was listening to it the open every time, and 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.960 he won't let me, and he won't he loves it. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.160 I guess you know what, Listen, it's gotta it's gotta. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.800 There's gotta be a reason why he likes it. A 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.960 lot of people probably do. I have had to skip it. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.560 I just bring me right back to that Hollywood Christmas bread. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.440 But I have to skip it. Yeah, so then we're 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.280 still in Phoene's cast class. Get out of tune music 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.520 box into your head, right, It's like in a horror film. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:20.360 Damn man, man Man. By the way, I think I 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.240 found a picture from the Hollywood Pick Christmas Parade. Uh, 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.320 and weren't we just in were in cars? You had 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.200 mentioned that we had floats. I don't think we had. Well, well, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.120 we did it so the year that we had the 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.360 theme song going, it was a giant float with the 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:39.160 globe on it. Everything you would do. One year where 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.400 it was like it was you guys in like Rodney 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.520 Dangerfield or something that story. Me and Ben Savage and 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.079 Rodney Dangerfield and we got his car broke down, so 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.440 he and his wife ended up on ours. It was, wow, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.400 what show are you on? I've never heard of it, honey, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.679 you have heard of this show? We're like, it's a 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.480 kids show. Mr. Danger And he didn't realize how long 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.040 the parade was, you know, it's only like I don't know, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.360 but it took like it took like an hour and 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.240 a half. And his car broke down, so we had 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:12.880 to get into our car and Ben and I were 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.160 just petrified. Staring up at Rodney Dangerfield and he's just like, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.920 who are you? Because what ended up happening was the 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.840 fans knew us because they were all kids. It's like 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.040 fanili holiday parade, so they were freaking out about us. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.920 And then only like every you know, a hundred people 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.959 or so, there'd be some dude going like Rodney. That 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.160 would all he would get. So he kept getting more 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.280 and more upset that we were getting all this attention 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.360 and he had no clue who we were. So then 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.280 he finally just said, you know what, can we stop? 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.760 How long is this thing? I want to get off? 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.920 I want to get off, and and they were like, well, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.679 we can't stop the parade unless there's a medical emergency. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.920 So like five minutes go by, and he goes, you 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.160 know what, it's a medical emergency, getting me an ambulance. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.320 I gotta get out of here. The day they stopped 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.920 the parade, Rodney Dangerfield stopped the parade to get away 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.719 from us. They took him away in an ambulances like, yeah, yeah, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.920 it's a medical emergency. I got chest pains, get me 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.120 out of here. And we're like, oh my god. So 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.040 want escorted him away in an ambulance halfway through the parade, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.360 the great story we can relax. Wow, I'm going to 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:14.960 use that if I ever need to get away from 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.160 this podcast immediately, like for for I'm just gonna be 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.240 like medical emergency, bring me an ambulance, get me away 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:25.920 from these two. No respect, no respect. Oh, that's so funny. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:36.040 That's a great story writer in Hollywood story Christmas Grade. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.720 So Mr Feenie announces that this year's Geography tournament has 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.400 a prize to be the bat boy at the upcoming 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:51.040 World Series, and we realized that Corey is suddenly very interested, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.720 even though he has never really been interested in geography before. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.840 Corey says he thinks it's a mistake that poene wants 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.760 to take Mincas to the tournament, and Feeney says he's 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:05.080 full of confidence in Mankus, and we get Phoenie doing 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.960 the call back that's actually the third time it get 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.240 The second time it gets called back, we get the 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.200 there's minkusamenus. Then Corey says Mancus isn't markus the second time, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.680 and then Phoenie at the end calls back and says, no, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.440 I have full confidence in Mankus. My confidence is in 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.320 Manus all. In the first two scenes, we have the 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.640 same joke three times, which means it was clearly a 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:30.280 favorite of at least one persons have killed at a 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.480 table read and it run through and they're like, this 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.520 is this is working, this is the one want it? Uh. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.640 So we are then in the kitchen, Eric and I 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.120 just want to talk about the When you see the 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.840 awards on the wall. You know, I love that because 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.880 I knew what was what was called. I was like, Oh, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.440 there's gonna be something else taking that place. And I 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.080 don't know if I just remember that or if it's 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.320 just a perfect setup, but you know, knowing that the 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.160 plaque is going to come or you know, not come 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.800 this year was I just love that visual. Yeah, that 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.520 was a good visual. I did not even think ahead 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:01.880 to like what was going to go in that spot 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.520 because I don't remember the episode at all, so I 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.680 didn't remember if Mangas ended up doing wasn't there, So 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.720 I didn't remember the episode at all, So I didn't 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.240 know if Mincus was gonna end up coming in and 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.920 saving the day or so it didn't even occur to 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.520 me like what's going to go in that spot. I 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.560 just it went right past me, but then obviously seeing 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.480 it called back later is even though you weren't in 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.520 this this is always how I wonder you know how 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.760 far ahead they think. So this is the first episode 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.600 we shot, they already have to have a bunch written. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.040 I wonder if Topanga is even named yet, like by 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.720 this point for the first episode, four episodes ahead or 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.440 three or four scripts from the Yeah, I wonder if 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.360 the name Topanga has even come out of anybody's mouth yet. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.440 I'm just I don't think so, I don't know. I 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.040 bet I bet to Pango was um, probably a last 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.120 minute addition to the script, like, well, I think that 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:56.040 probably what happened, um, And I don't remember if we 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.520 talked about this when we When we did the episode 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.680 for Corey's alternative of Friends, the storyline was based on 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.680 the true story that Michael Jacobs actually did try and straight. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.200 So I bet you that that pitch was already laid 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.360 out as an episode, like I'm sure that they had 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.800 by this time. But if you think about it that storyline, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.960 then you know that that's the pitch, and then it 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.159 leads to, oh, he gets stuck at this weird o 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.439 table because he's ostracized. What if there's a girl at 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.840 the weirdo table who becomes, you know, a love introduce 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.720 Storer's first kiss. So I wonder how far along in 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.520 the development of that storyline to Panga entered, you know, 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.040 But I imagine it was story first, and then who 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.200 can be the person that you know makes being weird cool, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.520 Let's make it a girl character, and then created to 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.280 Panga out of that. But yeah, I have no idea 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.399 if it was here. I'm curious. I don't think I 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.240 knew that it was a true story about Michael straightening 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.000 his hair. I don't think any Yeah. Oh yeah, I 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.280 was all based on him trying it as a kid. Yeah, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.159 he actually did straighten his hair. Apparently that's funny. Okay, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.720 So we're in the kitchen. Eric says he cannot baby 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.840 sit on Friday because he's taking Heather to the Aerosmith concert. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.720 And yeah, so Jensen asked me. We went to the 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.600 Aerosmith concert after we did this episode, because it was 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.880 the next year. It was probably two or three. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:17.639 so crazy. That was my first concert stage. I met everybody, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.520 and I have this great photo of all of us 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.359 with the band. It was great, and we're with the 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.000 whole band. It's it's awesome. It's really cool. Yeah, I 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.640 would love to see that picture. Um. Yeah, we went. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:32.119 We went in a limo together. Where was it? I 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:33.560 don't think it was in l A. It was outside 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.040 of town somewhere at a big stadium, right, was it 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:40.040 Orange County? Maybe didn't we was it the pond? Gosh? 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.320 I have no idea. I just know it was. It 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.080 was a drive and we all took a limo together. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.240 That's right, it was done. It was. It was a 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.919 whole concert, memory serves. We did not stay for the 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.560 whole show. We went backstage before the show and then 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.080 I remember they for a few songs, and then because 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.919 we were all kids, we you know, they brought us 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.720 home early. So it was kind of like they hadn't 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.879 gotten we were to the B sides yet. We hadn't 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.479 heard dream On or any of the big ones by 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.959 this point. It was kind of like, oh, there are 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.080 new stuff and then we're gone. But it was writer myself, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.639 will Ben, and we went with Angel and Vicky. Are 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:18.639 are pe quote unquote physical trainers are pe teachers. Uh, 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:20.840 you know that taught us and the home improvement kids 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.400 for that wreck period that we talked about they would 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.240 always come every was it every day they would come 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.200 to sort of help lead us in our wreck time, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:35.040 but they also became friends. How business personal edge Wasn't 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.679 that what it was called? It was like it was 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.479 personal edge training. How did they then become so involved 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.359 in our social lives too? Because questions. I also have 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.040 pictures like we went to baseball games. I have pictures 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.040 of me with Eric Carros and Rick Garcia and Angel 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.879 and Vicky at based at Dodger Games Amsterdam with Angel. Yeah, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:04.520 we used a video with Angel video. I have it. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.400 I just sent a picture of it to Danielle. I'm 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.399 looking at it right now. So we got we got 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.040 very intertwined with Angel and Vickie. And at this stage 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.960 in our connection with them, they were they were just 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.280 really good at hustling connections to stuff, like I remember 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.320 them getting you know, like backstage passes to Aerosmith. So 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.960 they would always just like you know, call us or 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.479 invite us to stuff. And they were just always like 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.000 finding a business angle or they would get us like 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.680 I remember I got a free snowboard one time, because 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.680 they just they would just they would give they would 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.920 be like, hey, this company wants, which at the time, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.960 like I didn't think in those terms. I mean, now 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.120 I think it's kind of understood that you get like 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.240 free stuff if you're on a TV show and you 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.280 just promoted or whatever. But back then they were in 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.439 that teen magazine circle somehow, I guess because they were 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.040 not ever go to the Nike store. Did you ever 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.639 do the days where they would bring you to the 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.760 Nike store and they literally it was like this store 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.119 was empty and they go pick and you kind that 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.520 maybe it was rebock, maybe it was reboking, not Nike, 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.960 might have been rebod. One of that was Angel and Vickier. 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.719 You just did that because Angel and Vickier. It had 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:10.520 something to do with boy Meats World. But it was 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.920 just like you could walk around the store and fill 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.520 up bags of shoes and clothes, and I mean it 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.200 was insane. It was not only did it once or twice, 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.199 but it was you got all this free stuff. And 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.720 then Angel and Vickie got us Oxygen's, remember that, which 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:25.719 was like the top of the line roller blade at 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.720 the time. It was like the coolest thing in the world. 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:33.919 Um got us these pairs of of they were called Oxygen's, 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.520 And I remember other like Rydan and I did an 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.159 inline skating video and we've never heard of it. And 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:43.359 we're experts in pro your pro inline skaters, aren't you. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.200 So I don't know. I don't know where you're getting 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.440 this information. Never forget, anybody knows the inline skates. It's 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.880 I want to camp roller blade. Probably there was, Yeah, 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.080 I don't know if it's still around, but they were, 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.280 and it was right in my hometown in Santa Rosa, 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.560 which is like right near where I grew up. Um 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.080 they were. They were the big push for for inline 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.680 skating as like a movement at the time. And where 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.600 in Santa Rosa there is a Snoopy ice skating rank 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.600 UM and it's Um, the daughter of Charles Schultz who 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:16.240 created Snoopy, and they have this ice skating rank and 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.760 his world famous and she was a huge supporter of 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.399 inline skating and she like started camp Rollerblade and we 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.879 would go and like do ramps and have like professional 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.520 rollerblade teachers come and like, yeah, it was a whole 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.160 week of rollerblade. It was just crazy. But it seems 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.840 like a camp with a lot of broken wrists. Oh yeah, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.120 people who got wrecked. I remember like air accidents every day. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.919 I remember watching it was either Cheach and it was 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.840 Cheach or Chong Son. It was Cheech marins Son. I 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.280 think who Um smashed his face on a ramp and 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:51.199 I watched it happened like he did some kind of 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.440 amazing amazing because they like nine foot ramps. This was 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.280 like serious weird. I wasn't that great, but yeah it was. 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:57.760 It was you know, it was like a skateboard camp, 0:22:57.760 --> 0:22:59.720 but it was before rollerblade and it was it was 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.560 like a gator culture thing and he just wrapped. I 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.000 remember watching his face bounce on the on the ramp. 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.080 It was awful. That sounds like a fun camp. Yeah, 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.200 she wants to say, any camp where you can break 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.240 some bones is a good time too. Yeah. So Amy 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.200 says that she will call a sitter and they'll all 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.960 go together because Amy and Allen are also going to 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.159 the Aerosmith concert, and Eric is furious. He doesn't want 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.000 to go to the show with his parents, as Aerosmith 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.040 is too loud for people their age. Uh. And then Corey, 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.000 Sewn and Ellis walk into the kitchen holding Mincas hostage 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.800 Um and they introduced Minkas to Amy and we get 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.520 him his adorable line call my mother and yelling his 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.639 phone number up the stairs. Can we talk about a 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.320 couple of things? First of all, can we talk about 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.800 a little bit we we we we do like to 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.440 bracket things that haven't aged well. And a little bit 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.480 of grabbing the weaker kid and surrounding him and pulling 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.560 him kind of threatening lee into somebody's house was a 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.840 little weird for me. I get they played it comedically 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:00.720 and it was, but it was a little that that 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.359 was a little weird, a little bullish for me. But 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.600 then the other thing, which I'm wondering if this was 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.920 an inside joke, one of kind of the first inside 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.800 jokes we had, because we had just gone through the 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.720 Lempy Minkus thing. When he goes up the stairs, he said, 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:20.080 it's the only Mincus in the book, which I thought 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.560 was a joke. On the fact that they couldn't clear 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.320 the Lempy name. I wouldn't be surprised, And so it 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.280 was kind of a straight up inside baseball like no 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.200 one like some people would think it was funny, but 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.199 if you knew the whole story on the set, it 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.320 was like, we could clear the name, so it's the 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.640 only Mincus in the book. That's what kind of went 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.119 through my head. I'm wondering if that's what it was. 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.479 I bet you was h Yeah, it could have been. 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.879 It's also just funny because how many mincus Is have 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.960 you ever heard of? And so it's also funny just 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.000 on its own that like, don't be surprised, but there's 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.360 only one. You know, it worked on a bunch of levels. 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:51.760 But I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons they 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:53.200 put it in because they were able to clear the 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.159 name because it was the only Mancus, like there was 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.960 no Mankas. And we get Lily sitting on the counter 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.119 throwing away groceries, which is cute. I thought it was 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:04.479 funny the way she says it's hiding the liver. And 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.159 this is the first time we've all worked together. I mean, 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.320 this is the first night we've shot. This is the 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.199 first night in front of an audience. I've never been 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:14.919 in front of an audience like this before. This is 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.480 the first time that you see the Matthews family. I 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.760 mean it might be the fifth episode, but we've never 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.639 done this before. So that was something that that was 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.399 always going through my head as I was watching this 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.280 is like, this is the first time we'd ever done this. 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.679 I can I can imagine the energy for all of 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.679 you was I was super high. Yeah, so nervous? Does 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.639 it come across that way? By the way, it feels 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.399 very much like we're in the fifth episode and not 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.800 like this is the first knowing Will though Will is 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.240 not Will's presenting, you know, he's He's definitely presenting more. 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.000 And then he is comfortable in his own skin and 0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:52.159 this just then just say the lines. Yeah, it was 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:56.520 just so nerve wracking. But again it shows how good 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.639 Like we keep talking about Lee, who could completely in 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:04.920 control of his study, his voice and the great character 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.080 and is holding for laughs already and I mean it's 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:12.560 just so natural. Yeah he is. So we go up 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.880 to Korey and Eric's room. Sean says that one out 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.439 of every four people is a nerd and if you 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.000 look around and no one else is there, it must 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.760 be you. And they want to change his image. They're 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.720 trying to convince him not to do the geography tournament, 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.439 and Minca says he'll only quit the tournament if they 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.640 promised not to throw the ball at his head during 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.919 bombardment anymore. Yeah, this is the scene that bothered me. 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.560 Well it wasn't so because you know, the grabbing him 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.919 and taking the hostage, this thing, I mean, and this 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.560 just goes back We've talked a lot about the nerd stuff. Yeah, 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.119 it's just it's it's so dated this that there's a 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.040 there's a normal way to be and then there's an 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.040 unusual nerdy way to be. And like, you know, the 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.439 obvious question is maybe just don't throw the ball at 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.840 the kid's head, you know, But like, for whatever reason, 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.479 the logic of this scene is that's going to happen 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.160 just because you're so different and nerdy, So don't you 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:06.879 You have to change, buddy, You have to have this 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.679 nerd makeover in order to be accepted by everybody else's 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.199 And thats just that blows. Man. It sucks. It sucks. 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.840 It does. It absolutely sucks as somebody as not that 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.760 kind of nerd, but as a fantasy nerd, and like 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.959 like that type of nerd growing up you always were 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.199 a bit like pushed it and you always wanted to 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.879 be part of the cooler crowd. But it also doesn't 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.000 even matter what it is, right, whatever it is, if 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.440 you're an outsider like in the nineties, if you were 0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.920 different in any way about yeah, exactly, and that that's 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:40.280 really the worst part of American culture, but especially in 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.160 the nineties, it really reached its peak, the sense that like, 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.919 you know, if you're cool, you do these certain things 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.160 where you watch these movies or these TV shows, are 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.919 listen to this music, and you have this way of 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.240 speaking and acting. And if you don't adhere to those rules, 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.800 whether because you're a nerd or you're gay or anything different, 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.400 you must be there's must be something wrong with you, 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.680 and that's your problem. And I am so glad that 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.360 that has changed, because I remember feeling that like uncomfortable, 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.040 Like I remember wrestling with it myself, and so in 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.679 a day to day just feeling like there's a mainstream 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.159 and I should adhere to it or live up to it. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.000 And then there's the you know, and so the fact 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:19.720 that we were encouraging that on our shows, it's a 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.520 real bummer and it well, I mean, I remember talking 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.240 about any when you're a kid, especially during the nineties, 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.840 eighties and the nineties, anything different was bad. Anything even 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.440 if it was something good, it was bad. So I 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.080 was an actor and I was on a show on Nickelodeon, 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.879 and I thought I was doing something positive and cool 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:42.160 and for a good year in probably seventh or eighth grade. 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.960 Every time I opened my mouth to answer a question 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.000 or do something in class, somebody would go, I'm sorry, 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.760 I was just acting like it was it was just 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.840 a thing where because that was a John Lovett's thing 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.880 on SNL and every time I opened my mouth, so 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.360 it just maybe not want to speak like I'm okay, 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.840 I'm just not going to raise my hand answer a question. 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.160 I was completely outcast in my high school. In my 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.120 junior high I was made fun of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.200 And it's like you're doing something positive and something great, 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.520 but it doesn't matter. You're different. You're just different and 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.920 different bad. And so it was yeah that we we 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:18.880 we did lay into that a little bit, especially in 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.200 this episode. It's like, well, you gotta like sports or 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.960 you're you're bad, and it's like, you know, I think 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.200 it probably still happens nowadays, even though like that idea 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.440 writer that you're talking about isn't quite the same now 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.280 where you know, if you're interested in anything outside the norm, 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.239 you have to change. Something must be wrong with you. 0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.760 That is different, thankfully, But like the Ages of eleven 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:46.320 to thirteen, maybe even fourteen are just rough. Everyone is 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:51.120 trying to blend in and fit in and please don't 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.360 let anything make me stand out. And so you know 0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.520 there's always a battle of some sorts. But whether it's 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.360 it's it's not as black and white, right, it's not 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.640 as like I or or I mean, I think hopefully, 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.000 I think that there's now just a general recognition of 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.560 plurality and and notion that the diversity that you can 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.960 be a different type of person. Uh, you know, we 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:14.240 talked about a lot more than yeah, but we just 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.520 we probably talked about this maybe too much. But it 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.760 was a monoculture. You know, everybody was watching the same 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.600 there's we had twenty four million people tuning into our 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.840 television show and we were not the biggest show on television. 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.680 That's crazy. So you think about how that, you know, 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.719 tells people or it sort of creates a model of like, 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.640 this is the way to be, this is the show 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.600 to watch, These are the movies that everybody And now 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.520 I think there's just so many different types of content. 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.080 There's so many different types of clothing styles, there's so 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.440 many different types of music and whatever it is. It 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.520 seems like there's more of a recognition of plurality. But yes, 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:51.640 I think locally within like a given classroom, this is 0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.440 always going to be a struggle, right, There's always gonna 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.880 be status games. There's always going to be a struggle 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.560 for status and who's cool popularity of some sort. Yes, 0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.800 but fully it's not based on such an easy archetype 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:07.040 or an easy stereotype like the nerd versus the non nerd. Well. 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.720 The thing that that amazed me was was as I 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.600 got older and tried to let go of a lot 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.920 of that stuff that happened to me in middle school 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.120 and things like that, and became friendly again as an 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.320 adult with those kids I grew up with. You found 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.360 out that almost to a person, whether they were popular 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.560 or not, they also hated it. They were also having 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.840 the worst time in middle school or the worst time 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.000 in high school. It wasn't like, oh man, i've met 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.840 like three people in my life that was like high 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.960 school was the best time in my life. Everybody was 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.280 struggling with it. Everybody hated it, and you thought you 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:38.680 were the only one going through it, and even the 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.840 popular kids were like, no, it was terrible on me too. 0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.440 I had a bad home life for I struggled to 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.360 stay popular, or if I did that, you know you 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.920 had an eating disorder. Everybody had something. So we get 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.840 back into the kitchen and Eric tells his parents they 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.360 cannot go to the Aerosmith concert. Eric says it's his 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.960 first concert, but his parents say, actually they went when 0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.400 Amy was pregnant with Eric, and Alan's says they have 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.960 third row seats. He jokes about how old guys get 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.720 good seats, and Amy says maybe they can get Eric 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.640 and Heather decent seats so they can at least see 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.840 the stage. But Eric says he doesn't want to be 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.320 at the same show as his parents, and he's He 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.120 leaves in a huf, saying he's going to go see 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:20.280 if he can get tickets to Eric Clapton. I also 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.200 thought there was a line from Rusty where he says, 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.400 get a clue, and it seemed like that was another 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.120 thing they were trying to make, trying to do it. Yeah, 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:29.680 they were, They were definitely trying to do it. And 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.600 I'd like to just quickly give a shout out to 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:36.560 my giant purple sweatshirt at the top. But it was very, 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:41.120 very bottom heavy, yeah, very baldos in the sleeves as well. Yes, yes, 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.160 bulbous is a good a good way to describe that sweatshirt, 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.720 you know. I think for me in this episode, one 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.160 of the things that just seeing seems like it's a 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.080 little weak. The whole premise of you being so unhappy 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.640 about them going to the concert alone just has really 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.240 no legs. It just I felt like there needed to 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.960 be something more like I'm worried you're gonna embarrass me. 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.120 I you've never met had there are something there needed 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.280 to be more there than just like so offended that 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.800 you were going to be in the same place that 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.800 Eric was. That was it, by the way, at the 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.800 same place. I could see the storyline being like, wait 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.479 a minute, we're not sitting together, are we, and then 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.719 when you find out we're sixty four rows apart, being like, 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.280 good please just pretend if you see me, pretend you 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.000 don't know. I wonder how much of this was based 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.560 on the idea that they were trying to establish. I mean, 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.360 this is if this is the first episode of filming, 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.000 this would be Rusties first episode two. And I think 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.960 that establishing that the parents were not that they had 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.640 some countercultural street cred, that they were kind of cool. 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.760 They're not regular parents. They were. I think that was 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.920 very important to attracting Rusty to the part, because that's 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.120 kind of Rusty's vibe. And I think that that was 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.240 important to establish for Michael and the team, like these 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.520 are not going to be the typical sitcom parents. They're 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.640 they're they're gonna listen to cool music. They're gonna wear 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.000 their denim jackets and we'll talk about later, and like 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.400 they're gonna be you and so I think in order 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.640 to create that tension, they had to force this situation 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.160 where Will's character is upset about it, like or overly 0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.560 upset about it, because like, really there is no conflict here, right. 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:14.000 It's such as also problem. It's also an acting choice 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:18.080 because this exact same storyline could have been taken differently 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.880 if it was handled by season six Eric as opposed 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:26.359 to season one Eric. You know, no, I'm not trying 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.319 to beat myself up. I'm saying the acting choice of 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:33.760 playing it angry. But here's the problem, and funny, here's 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.759 the real problem with it. What does what does Eric do? 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.640 Does Eric make a choice? Does he change exactly? So 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:44.600 it's a completely inactive protagonist, and that's bad. Writing like 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.319 there's no choices made. Now if Eric decided to do 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.120 something and then because of that there was a backfired situation, 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.399 he calls and cancels the parents so they can't go 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.000 does something. But instead it's just a presentation of a situation, 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.000 and you can play about it and then that situations 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.960 and then that happens again and then complain about it 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.399 in front of the kind of their for no real 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:12.200 reason and actor protagonist. Naturally it's a useless it is 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.080 absolutely yeah, and but again played angry like I'm angry 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.520 the whole You have to create conflict exactly, conflict you're 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:24.640 just creating. Hardly is an actor to create conflict, it's not. Yeah, 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.160 it was very interesting. So the next day, sweashirt, that's 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.640 what That's what stole the scene. The next day, we're 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.160 at school and Mincas tells Mr Feeney he's resigning from 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.560 the tournament. He says the tournament doesn't fit in with 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:40.520 his new image, which is Stewart Mincas regular guy. Um 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.960 Mincas says that exceptional guys get bombardment balls thrown at 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.400 their heads. Do you guys know of a game called bombardment? 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.000 Is that a real game? It is it's they've they've 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:55.640 just changed. Um. The name of bombardment is just dodgeball's compartment. 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.560 But the trade had compartment or did we call I 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.759 think I think there's They called it bombardment. I don't 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.760 know why, but it's essentially dodgeball. That's all Bombardment is. If, if, unless, 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.919 unless somebody's like no, the rules are different. It's the same. 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.359 You throw balls at people. If it hits you, you're out. 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.040 If you catch it, the person who threw it is out. 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.360 Dodgeball is trademarked or something. I could be wrong, but 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.879 I'm pretty sure it is. Um. So Mr Feenie tries 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.560 to see if his image can wait until after the tournament. 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.160 Corey stays back in the classroom. He's ready for Mr 0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:27.160 Feenie once Mincus quits, and Mr Feenie said, there won't 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:28.480 be a tournament. If it's going to have to be 0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.760 Corey in the tournament, then there will be no tournament 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.719 because Corey has never shown any interest in geography, and 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.160 Corey says he's willing to learn. Mr Feenie says that okay, 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.640 he will agree to prep Corey for the tournament, and 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.759 he hopes that the prize is actually going to lead 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.239 to him wanting to learn. And um, now we get 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.400 Foenie and Corey for the first time kind of in 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.680 on a little bit of a scheme together. Yeah, not 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.839 really quite a scheme, but yeah, it's cute that they're 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.480 all right, let's let's see a chance on each other, 0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:59.960 right Exactly, I like them. Mr Feenie is willing to 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.560 play this out as well. That's what I mean again. 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.200 You think when you look back, Foenie knows he's gonna lose. 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.640 Foenie knows he's not gonna win, but he's also seeing 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.040 if Corey is going to actually learn. And I think 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.719 that's what is don't you think that Mr Feenie by 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.879 this point he knows it's like, all right, the title's gone. 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.839 I have no chance. Corey is not going to win 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.440 this thing. But if I could get this one kid 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.560 to actually learn something that he didn't want to learn before, 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.759 then I win as a teacher anyway. Exactly, they only 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.399 lose lose. Situation here for Foenie is if he doesn't 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.840 end up learning anything and he loses the tournament. But 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.640 the hope is if I can at least get him 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.520 to learn something I will feel like a winner. Um. 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.160 And so we are back in the Matthew's backyard. Corey 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:44.680 is steadily studying geography while show. Yeah, I so indelibly 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.680 remember carpet Dum, Mr Foenie. And it's funny because I 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.040 wonder how much I remember that so so vividly, because 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.759 it was probably the first time I'd ever heard that 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.320 phrase carpet do you know what I mean? So it's 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.840 so interesting. Also takes that pause though there's the pause 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.160 between carpet d um and Mr Feenie. He doesn't go 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.439 carpet d um, Mr Feenie goes carpet d um, Mr Feenie. Yeah. 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.440 Well we said it for a while, but I just 0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.680 it's so funny because the second it came out of 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:10.719 Lee's mouth, I was like, oh my god. But yeah, 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:12.799 I wonder how much of that is because I was 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.520 backstage or at our table read hearing that and going 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.200 what is this phrase? And I probably asked somebody or 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.160 looked it up. I probably asked, you will because you 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.400 spoke Latin at the time or read Latin at the 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.200 spoke and read at the time. I did. Actually, yeah, yeah, 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.920 So anyway, I just you know, now it's one of 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.000 those things you hear all the time, but twelve or thirteen, 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.440 I probably never heard that phrase before. So anyway, that 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.440 line is like etched in my brand, and it's there 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:36.880 was a couple of teams, you know. The other one 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.560 we said all the time was Duan's line. We said, 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.000 what's the point of playing if we can't throw it 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.160 at his head? We said that for years too. We 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.799 said that for years too, because we thought that was 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.479 so funny that we just kept saying that as well, Yeah, 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.839 that's funny. All the lines that we used to repeat backstage, 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.000 you never knew what was gonna which one was gonna hit, 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.560 and all of a sudden from the first season though, 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.319 I think and I think it's because we were all 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.920 so aware of each other's lines and the you know, 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.560 we were an ensemble that we're working our way through 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.120 the script and there's lines that come and go and 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.440 jokes that hit or miss, and even something that might 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.439 not that might miss in the final tape Night could 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:13.080 have landed so hard during a rehearsal that it became 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.200 an inside joke for us exactly even if it didn't 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.920 make it to air. So in the Matthews backyard, Corey 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.239 is studying geography. Sean and Ellis try to get him 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:22.839 to the park and he and they say that he's 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:27.480 studying too much. Mincus shows up in one of the 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:33.080 greatest outfits of all time. The largest shorts I've ever 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:39.400 seen on a non clown. Just amazing, those big yellow 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:48.880 they are they're shams, but they're also they're they're also 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:53.080 just like a barrel around his waist and the shoes 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.759 his feet look I mean, of course the hood we 0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:01.000 could and suspenders to hold up those short It's just incredible. 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.560 We will put this picture on our Instagram for you 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.880 Pod Meets World show. I wonder about the outfits they rejected, 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:10.719 where they were like, Nope, that's not going to work, 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:12.799 that's not Oh there you go, got it, nailed it, 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:16.520 nailed it. That's the one. Um So, Corey says he 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.880 needs Mincas's help studying, but Minca says absolutely not. He 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.759 tells Fenny he watched MTV's House of Style, which is 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:28.040 where he put together this outfit and style it was. 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.360 It was a show about clothing, yes, and it was 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:35.000 hosted by supermodel Cindy Crawford work. But did people dress 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.560 like this back there. Yeah, I think it's I think 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.520 it wasn't very I think it was a very kid 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:45.680 and play style, you know, mode of dressing. My my 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.520 husband at the time dressed very much like this. Jensen 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.120 card I would have would have worn an outfit very 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.000 much like Thisto. Can we please find a picture of that? 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.680 Please please find a picture of that. Well, we'll find one. 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.000 I'm not sure you ever wore suspects like that, but 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.160 he definitely wore spenders. Doesn't seem no accurate. Suspenders kind 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.799 of became cool like late nineties in like, yeah, there 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.320 was a moment. I did remember wearing suspenders later in 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.759 the nineties, but yeah, suspenders cross colors was big in 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.640 the early nineties. There's Team magazine shoots of me and suspenders, Yes, 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.040 there are. We'll find that as well. Look for those 0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:32.439 for sure. I have them all in the garage. So 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.640 Mincas says he's now leaving to go watch Beavis and 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.560 butt Head, and we get our first reference. Actually that's 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.279 first laugh. That's why they put it back. That's why 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:47.279 they put it back in. Exactly got a wou so 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.879 it came back. So the people in the audience loved them. 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.839 Some Beavis and butt head popular at the time. So 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.279 then we are back home in the kitchen. Family, We're 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.560 back home in the kitchen. This is also I thought, 0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.239 isn't this the moment Ben had a great moment that 0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.560 made me laugh out? Isn't this the snort where he 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.759 kind of yes, where he goes, he goes because he's 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.480 now like the quote unquote nerds, So it's like, oh, 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.760 he's snorting. But the way he did it was actually 0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.799 very funny. Yeah, that was the first time where I 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.200 was like, okay, that was that was a good comedy 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.960 right there, Dwan as Ellis says something like he's he's morphing, right, 0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.759 is that what he says, He's morphing something like that. Yeah, 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.880 mutinating was very funny in that moment. I thought I 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:29.400 thought they could have made a bigger moment out of 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.080 it because it kind of like it was really brushed over. 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:34.080 But that's what I kind of liked about. It was 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.640 just a quick little like he's oh he snorted like 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.840 it was um. So we're at home in the kitchen. 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.680 The family is quizzing Corey on his geography. Eric calls 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.000 out artists, trying to get his parents to go to 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.799 another concert, So he's naming a bunch of people. I 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.680 liked the line Tina Turner and she says my mother's 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.240 my mother's Yeah, that's great, And then I was like, wow, 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.320 is that would that have been true? That, like Tina 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.399 Turner has been doing this since? Yeah? Well, I think 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.840 there weren't Icentina Turner. Were the early sixties their original, 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.160 you know, banned group. I think I think was the 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.440 I might have even started the late fifties and then 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.239 the early sixties, and then she obviously moved away and 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.719 became much bigger in the seventies by herself, and then 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.080 it was kind of seventies eighties. Yeah, but I'm pretty 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.600 sure they would have been the late fifties, early sixties. Argentina. 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.239 What a career. Um. They tell Eric that he should 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.400 rebel and not go to the show, and would you 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.000 want to when you're that angry about this for some reason? 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:37.480 Just angry all episode? Just other choice? Well, you had 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.399 no other choice. You had to pretend that you were 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.319 very angry. And then we find out that you're going 0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.200 to be sixty four rows behind them, which is very 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:48.080 funny to me. Um, And we're at the geography tournament. 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.080 The kids and their teachers are lined up on stage. 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.919 The teachers are all giving the kids massages. And uh, 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:59.239 that was great. Ben in his suit like it's like 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.320 so like Corey out of his elo A great suit, 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.320 by the way, I wrote down what a great suit. 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.920 It bit him perfectly. Of all the oversized clothes of 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.279 the nineties, the suits were not super big. It fit 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.399 him so well. And it's that great green color. Um. 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:15.120 But yeah, just that, just do this with your shoulders 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.800 and rolling his shoulders are feeling a little. Great moment, 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:23.319 so good, so funny. I loved it, um. And so 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.160 we cut two Corey panicking on the stage during the tournament. 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.399 Corey doesn't know how to answer the question. We see 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.600 that the kids are getting very hard questions that we 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:36.840 never saw Corey face though when they cut to him 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:44.560 was perfect. That worried, ridiculous looking around was his st 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.480 That was my actual the first time I saw that actual, loud, 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.160 laugh out loud moment that wright we talked about the 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.399 equivalent of the optical flip where it is then just 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:59.520 on his horrified face. It was hysterical. He was great 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.800 in that moment. It is It's really funny. And Jensen 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.640 pointed out to me while we were watching it. Jensen 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:05.839 was like, you know what made this show different than 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.960 other shows is that I think other sitcoms would have 0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.520 had him at least get something right, Like you would 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.600 have seen him maybe not win the tournament, but like 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:19.799 he wouldn't know nothing, and instead he just literally is 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.640 like it's it's as if they're speaking a totally different 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:26.319 language than he speaks. Um And I don't know necessarily 0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:27.920 whether or not another show would have done that, but 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.440 Jensen was really like, I think this separates the show 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:34.279 that he really knew nothing, right, Well, it takes us 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.000 on more of a journey, right because he's he's learned something, 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.279 or he's he's been studying so hard, which has made 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.640 him more nerdy, and you know, and we've already established 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.120 that as the problem, but then the real problem is 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.440 he doesn't win the content, win the be like, so 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.799 it takes it to the next level. It's good storytelling, 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.040 you know, this is like you just keep twisting the 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.520 expectations because it's like, oh, he's a nerd. Now he's 0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.920 gonna go win the contest, and you know, there's still 0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.160 another twist coming, there's still another turn to this show. Yeah, 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.560 he still doesn't know a lot, and he may he 0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:05.319 may have learned, he may have learned something, but he 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.440 still doesn't know everything he needs to know in order 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.640 to win a tournament. So Corey doesn't know how to 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.719 answer the question he's given and he has left on 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.280 stage at the very end of his loss. He's by himself, 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.040 and the girl who wins walks by with her trophy 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:21.440 and says that the bat Boy prize is stupid. I 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:25.799 love the voices of those two girls. They both had 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.920 like these deep voices that I just loved. I think 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.640 they I think they they just made them stand out, 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.839 and they were both so cute. I thought that was um, 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.320 I mean, you very easily could have had one of 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:41.160 your topanga's there. Yeah. Yeah, it could have been you, Daniel. 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:42.880 That could have been me if only I got the 0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:48.439 audition for the geography tournament. Um right, I was fish Girl. 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.680 So we're in the Matthews family living room. Eric and 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.799 Heather are back home from the concert and they are 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.279 telling Corey that they saw Amy and Allan dancing in 0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.640 the aisle. Um. This was my audition piece. That was 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:01.680 my audition scene. I so I tried to look down 0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.000 in the rose Ce scene Mom and Dad. No, mom 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.279 and dad are dancing in the aisles. That is I 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.319 had to sit there and say that in New York, 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:12.160 then on film, then in l A. How many times 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.759 did Michael tell you were doing it wrong? And to 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.000 do it? You know what? You know what I honestly 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.239 remember about about my audition process. I remember two things. 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.360 I remember that Ben was there. I'm sorry, I remember 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.720 three things. I remember that Ben was there and reading 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:28.200 with us for a different scene that wasn't that was 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.239 was a UM probably from the bedroom scene. It was 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.440 a bedroom scene in the pilot that that we we 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.400 read together. And then I remember going in and reading. 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.239 So the process was you would you would first go 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.840 to UM producers, so you would. It's a hard auditioning 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.160 for shows back in the day, and I'll do this 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:49.839 very quickly. Was just the most miserable, stressful, awful day 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.239 you could possibly imagine. It's not that I don't think 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.680 it's still the full day process that it that it was. 0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.200 If I've heard in front of theaters, is it still 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.000 the same because now everything's like on tape and they 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.719 do this and there's so many to have the backdrop 0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:06.279 you have to adjust your own lighting. You have to 0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.040 have cameras, you have to have a reader, actually a 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.239 network testing, factual network testing. Yes, it depends on the show, 0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.120 but I don't think they do. They don't bring you 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.359 in front of a room of forty to fifty people 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.640 like they used to, which is what it was. But 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.200 I think they would on a sitcom. I think they 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.480 would on a sitcom. In fact, they've done test shoots 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.040 for sitcoms these days where they actually go to a stage. 0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.520 I have, Oh, I'd much rather do that, But no, 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.920 with single camera stuff, I think nowadays they do mostly 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.040 like a cinematic sort of screen test where you go 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:38.840 to a studio with the director and reader and you 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.560 go do it alone, which is great because this one 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:43.600 you used to go and you'd sit the first thing. 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.640 So I flew in from from New York to l A. 0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:48.120 And then you started like nine o'clock in the morning, 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:49.920 and you go to producers and say there's three of 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.120 you auditioning. So you walk into a room and say 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.759 there's fifteen producers there, and you read the scenes through 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:56.880 however you're going to read them through, and then you 0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.799 come out and then they'll usually say like Okay, go 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:01.920 to lunch. That's going to take like a couple of hours. 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:03.760 They take their time. You sit there and you wait, 0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.480 You're all anxious. It's awful. And then you get a 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:08.480 call from your agent or manager saying, okay, you're going 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.600 to the next level, which is network. And then you 0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:14.320 go to the studio studio before network. Studio is next, 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.759 which is then more people in the room, and it's 0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.040 all the people from at the time we were touchdown 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.640 and all this kind of stuff. Also at this point, 0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:23.839 that's the point at which you sign a contract. Yes, 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:29.759 sign a contract before you do your people auditioning. Sign 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:33.040 a contract yes, and and so you're looking at a 0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.640 how much money you'll make be it's a thick country, 0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:38.400 and then you'll be how many years you're going to 0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:40.440 be committed to this thing because it has all your 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.480 pay lane laid out, and how much it's going to 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.120 get your going, what kind of rays you're going to 0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.719 get as the because they want to lock you in 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:50.960 because oftentimes you're you're in demand at another show or whatever, 0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.680 so they you'd be in first position or second position, 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:56.160 and when you sign that contract, you're a green to 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.160 do the show. If they've select you by the end 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.839 of that day or week or whatever the the period is. Oh, 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.440 it's so nerve wracking. It's the worst feeling because then 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:06.279 you just you start seeing your future. You're like, oh, 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:09.399 I'm gonna be working this next week or two weeks 0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.719 from an hour, this fall or whatever, and I'm gone, 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.840 it's going to change. Yeah, it's it's it's insane, it's awful. 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:18.279 And then you go if you get then you get 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.040 the call whether you've moved on or not. And usually 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.040 if you then get to network, which a lot of 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.280 times depending on what network you're going for, it's literally 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:30.360 in this theater room where there's fifty six executives sitting 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.279 there and you perform for them, um and by the 0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.080 time you get there, it's been most of the day 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:40.880 and you're exhausted, you're stressed. It's awful. Usually, if you 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.080 started with three people, now there's just two of you, 0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.560 like they've let one of you all day together too, 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.080 So you're sitting around and waiting with each other with 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:51.080 your competition, trying to be friendly. Meanwhile going like my 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:53.799 life could change tonight or your life could change, where 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.120 we just go back to normal. It's like the worst 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.040 the most terrible process in the world. So in between 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:03.200 studio and network, Michael came out and sat down next 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.719 to me and he said, I really think you're right 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.480 for this project. I just need you to calm down 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.560 and relax and really listened to Ben, and I think 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.880 you're going to be fine. And I noticed that he 0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:21.040 didn't talk to anybody else. And Jason Marsden was that guy, 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.040 my best friend again who was auditioning with me, and 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.480 he came out and I found out later he was like, 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:29.640 Ben screwed up his lines during the during the audition process, 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.600 which screwed me up. And so Ben, the joke we 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:34.879 had was Ben and he would said this to Jason 0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:36.440 as well. He's like, oh, no, I screwed that up 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.000 on purpose because I wanted Will to be Eric. Um. 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.560 He was totally kidding, of course, but that was kind 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:43.239 of the joke. And when Jason then came on the show, 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.000 he's like, you know, you you messed up on purpose, right, 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.080 and Ben like, of course I messed up on purpose, um, 0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.720 But it was that, you know, we were dependent on 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:53.160 another actor to come in, and Ben came in and 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.600 we had great chemistry. But that's what I remember about 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:57.719 not just the scene, but also that Michael is like, 0:51:57.760 --> 0:51:59.319 I really think you're right for this. I just need 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.360 you to relax and listen to Ben and that helped 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.000 um and then we got the part. But that's what 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:07.000 during this scene, that's all I see as they're I'm 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.759 standing behind the couch and everything. I just go back 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.840 to my audition because that's all it was was getting 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:15.719 Eric with these exact lines and then meeting NICKI who 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.240 you know, it was always a casting director who's reading 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:19.719 the part of the girl. And then it's like, oh, 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.880 this is Nicky Cox and it's like, yeah, it was. 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.520 It just changed the whole thing. So it's very strange too. 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:26.920 I got to sketch that whole process I got I 0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.760 didn't have. I got to that hole. You got tortured 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:33.160 in a whole different differently and tortured publicly in front 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:37.560 of your peers. Exactly. Congratulations, we all got to watch 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:46.640 your tortures. It is a horrible business and a tough process. Yeah. So, 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.560 uh yeah, you guys are back home. By the way, 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:56.120 who babysat Corey and Lily because you guys, great question. 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:58.480 No one was there with them. It was just fine. 0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.520 You're already home, so maybe Corey was old enough to 0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.440 babysit his sister. She asked Eric to stay home and 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.200 babysit them at the beginning of the episode, and then said, Okay, 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.719 I'll call a sitter. So I don't know. I don't 0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:11.719 Maybe it's maybe the sitter left when you got there, 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.400 and that's not an important part to the story that 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:21.239 when Eric arrived home. So, um, yeah, we see that 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.800 you guys that you were upset because they weren't in 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.640 their seats. They were dancing in the aisle, and you 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.080 are just mortified by that. And then Amy and Allen 0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:31.680 walk in and their concert attire. They've got cool fits on, 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:38.400 tied eye shirts, denim jackets, a prairie dress with necklaces, 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:41.600 and a vest, and it's probably embarrassing at all, but 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.920 it's not like embarrassing. It's like they're totally kind of 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.239 normally dressed for even slightly cool parents, you know, it's 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:53.840 like they're not over the top crazy where he exactly 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.320 but he thinks it. But going back to the time 0:53:56.320 --> 0:54:00.200 period and the place, maybe like I think just being 0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.040 anything slightly I mean in l A at this time, 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.279 if you were a hit parent, you would be way 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.239 more extreme, right, like you know, tattoos and like, but 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.680 in the nineties, and then if you were in Philadelphia 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.000 and you're just going to an Arrowsmith concert, mine, I 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.359 don't know, with a hippie shirt, like he's wearing tight eye. 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:22.000 I think so all my friends wore tight eye, so 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.120 it was like I didn't. I was like, oh, they're 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.200 not just that strange. But I guess maybe you're Maybe 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.280 you're right, maybe for Philly, and you know, he's supposed 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:32.560 to be a grocer, and it's like what mainstream America 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:36.479 there were still this like you know eighties hangover from 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:41.799 the sixties seventies counterculture or sorry, eighties backlash to the 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:45.120 sixties seventies counterculture, where you know, we were still coming 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.319 out of this like yuppie period where it was like 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.440 anti counter culture. For them to have any any nods 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:53.000 to that sort of rock and roll counter culture would 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:56.040 have been a little edgy at the time. Okay, okay, 0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:58.520 So this is where the premise started to feel just 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.000 a little loose for me because he asks you directly, 0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:03.279 like what I don't understand, what is so? What is 0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:05.319 so difficult? Way is this so hard for you? And 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:07.839 you have this idea that you said his parents aren't 0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.600 your parents aren't supposed to have fun. That's you're just 0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:13.600 supposed to stay home and wait for me. And I 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:17.680 was like, that's the best answer they could. That's the 0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:19.840 argument here. I feel like just the premise is a 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.799 little I don't But here's the thing though, which which 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:29.200 saved it. At least Eric didn't learn anything which the room. 0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.239 I was like, there's where's the message. He's like, some 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:34.239 I'm the father that you want to deal with it. 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.799 He walks out and it's like, Eric, wait what Like 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.960 it was just kind of that this storyline didn't didn't 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.400 wrap up in any way. It was just a strange, 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:47.279 kreind of story, a real waste of Nicki Cox. She's 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.279 like two things. She's just sitting there the whole and 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.719 that she gets up and walks to the door. It's 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.360 so bizarre. This is also for the record, this is Heather. 0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:59.120 So Eric has talked about Heather since the pilot. Yeah, 0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:02.400 you have been dating her four five episodes, and you 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.120 know what, I think, you know what, I think. I 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.440 think they probably wrote this as a sample scene to 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.640 cast the character of Eric. I g you that this 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:14.040 was a scene. First, it was a scene first and foremost, 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.279 and then they had to build a storyline around it 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.920 in two different a way. But because I bet you, 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.120 because it's such a monologue on your part, right like there, 0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:24.400 you know what you and I think it was a 0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.120 test to figure out who the older brother was. So 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.440 they probably wrote this as an audition scene cast you 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.040 and then tried to build an episode around the one 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.520 scene they had already written. And I think that's why 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.480 it's not that great, is because it's all about just 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.840 this scene, because really every other the other scenes in 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.600 the storyline are just reiterating the same point. You have 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:46.920 three scenes that do the exact same tension, and so 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:48.840 I think that you know, they probably started with the 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:51.640 scene and then just wrote backwards the two previous scenes 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.800 restating the same conflict. I'm not actually developing it because 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:57.840 it should have been the first scene and then you 0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.439 develop it into a storyline. But instead they just went 0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:02.760 to this scene, and so you have the same tensions 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:04.279 and it doesn't develop, and it doesn't time that you. 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.680 I bet you right, because you're right, nothing happens. There's 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:11.520 nothing happens. Well, did you did you start dating Nikki 0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:14.680 this week? Like this episode is this, like, did you 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:19.720 guys start dating pretty much immediately? Yes, yes, I want to. 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:23.000 That's how we met, I want to say, I want to. 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.959 I remember honestly thinking and shout out to Nicki Cox again. 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:30.000 We we reconnected four or five years ago, um over email. 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:35.680 She's such a sweetheart. Um. I remember distinctly thinking the 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.120 first time I saw her, that's the most beautiful girl 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.800 I've ever seen in my life. Um. And then we 0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:43.520 talked and she was so nice and so sweet that 0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:46.640 I instantly had a just instant crush on her. And 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.760 we hung out that whole that whole week. I just 0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:51.280 remember what was a date like like what you guys 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.280 do you We would like yeah, like you know, we 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.480 get it was I had my car, so we pick 0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.960 my car. Yeah, we'd go into Selica. Did you show 0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.840 off your sub whiffer? I'm sure I did. You know 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:06.200 you know what rider? That was awesome. It was I'm 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:10.760 not making fun of that was like, yeah, it was. 0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:13.320 We were like fifteen sixteen year olds dating, you know. 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.360 We'd help, we hold hands and and I think we did. 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:17.880 We literally like would go out and get something to 0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:19.640 eat or go to ice cream. It was like it 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:21.480 was never serious. It was like did you ever go 0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:27.560 to eds w Yes, we have to talk. No longer exists. 0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.520 But it was a diner in l a where it 0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:35.240 was all out of Lost Tis Plane characters. Was as 0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.680 the waiters and waitresses, so they would be in character 0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:43.120 sort of being like, you know, tough, funny off the table. Yeah, 0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:46.400 but it was a kid friendly diner place where it 0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.280 was it was fistner. It was amazing. So I actually 0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:51.520 have a friend who have become friends with an amazing 0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:55.360 actors named Rusty Swimmer who worked there, and when I 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.400 first met her, she was like I served you back 0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:00.680 in the night. She's an incredible director. If you look 0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:02.920 her up anybody listening, Rusty Swimmers one of one of 0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.720 the most talented, amazing actresses. You guys would know her 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.240 in a hartpage. She's been in everything, and for comedy 0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.320 and for drama. But anyway, yeah, she she always talked 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:14.080 about how she worked at Oh No, I loved. I 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:16.200 had my first birthday parted. It was one of those 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:17.760 places where the first time I went there, it was 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:21.160 like thirteen and you'd look away and then you'd look 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.520 back and one of the waiters or waitresses would be 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:27.600 sitting next to you eating your fries. They would do that. 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:31.360 It's like, what character as like Buddy Holly and like 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:33.840 Maryland were they pretending to be? Actually they were like 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:36.080 from the fifties. No, I don't think they ever went 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.360 just came up with their own character and they would 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.960 then get up and dance. They would dance to was 0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:43.200 y m c A or something on the table. It 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:46.240 was awesome, but they kind of shade some French fries 0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.320 and young It was like the fifties diner vibe. They 0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.800 did a a spoof of it on Friends where Monica 0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.240 ends up working there and has to get on the 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:55.680 table and do Y M c A. And the first 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:57.520 time I saw it, I was like, oh, that's absolutely 0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:05.360 amdibetics Ever, Joey Lawrence, we should do a Chubby Can 1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:07.200 we do a Chubbies pop up? We've talked about this, 1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:09.080 but let's do a Chubbies pop up? I guess up. 1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:10.560 If you want to do a Chubby's pop up but 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:16.360 in Philly, Yeah, yeah, we'll do a great idea. Um So, 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:19.200 Eric says his parents aren't supposed to have fun. Amy 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.760 says that they got home late because they had backstage passes. 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:25.160 They just continue to one up you with the cool factor. Um. 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.320 Eric tries to walk out, he's going to take Heather home, 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:29.840 but Alan stops them. They send Corey and Morgan to bed. 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:32.040 We think Eric is going to get yelled at, and 1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:34.920 Alan says, when he was younger, he want he had 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.560 a father like the one that Eric wants now, but 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:40.440 he really wanted a father like what Eric has, and 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:42.320 so he just has to deal with it. Basically, his 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:44.800 own father was like a stick in the mud, and 1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:47.560 he wanted a cool dad. And so Eric is not 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:51.200 um appreciating the fact that having a cool dad is 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:53.160 maybe better than having a stick in the mud dad. 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:57.200 And then he he walks out of the room and 1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.160 after kissing me on the forehead, yeah, kissing me on 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:02.120 the back of the head, and then walking out and 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:05.280 then leaves you guys alone, made you sit down even 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:11.160 for this conversation, and then walks out and you as Eric, thank, oh, 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:15.320 did my cool parents just leave me alone with my girlfriend? 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:16.960 And you guys go to kiss and then he pops 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:18.560 his head out and says, not that cool, and you 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:22.280 turn back on the light. So what was he doing? 1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:26.800 What was the point? I guess just leaving you guys 1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:30.200 alone to make out, like they just get alone time, 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:32.959 like without other parents and other kids around, without parents 1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:35.280 and other kids around. So I think it was just like, hey, 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.200 you can be alone, but you're not gonna you can 1:01:37.240 --> 1:01:40.640 continue your date without all of these embarrassing factors in 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:42.560 your life. But we're not going to think it was 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:44.920 a button joke on a scene that made no sense. 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.080 I think that's as far as they went with it was. 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.560 It's like and then they try to kiss and they can't, Like, 1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:51.560 there's because you do you look at it and it's 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:54.720 like he learns they tried to throw in the lesson 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:57.080 but it didn't really work, and then he leaves him 1:01:57.080 --> 1:01:59.640 with the girl. It's yeah, you turn the light off. 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:01.400 You're like turned the lamp off, and then you have 1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:03.600 to turn the light back on. Well, the rest of 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:05.360 the house is perfectly lit, by the way, so it's 1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:07.280 just turning off the lamp right next to them, as 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:09.439 if it plunges them into darkness. It's like, hey, we're 1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:13.920 in a slightly darker room now, Like I just might 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:18.000 be a good time for too much shirts because Indie. Interestingly, 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:20.479 Indie did not really like when I kept asking about 1:02:20.480 --> 1:02:23.440 the storyline. He kept just sort of coming up with 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:27.240 other observations, random little things, and then we kind of 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:31.320 got derailed into being recognized and acting. So but it 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:33.640 was it was interesting that I kept, you know, I 1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:36.680 I've edited these conversations down a little bit um so, 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:38.560 but there was like five minutes of me being like, 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:40.760 but what happened here? And what happened here? And he 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:43.720 you know, he remembers your storyline? Well, well let's see, 1:02:44.080 --> 1:02:46.320 give a listen. What do you think of this episode? 1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:52.680 It was what about Will's storyline? What was his storyline 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:58.320 going to a convery when his parents wound it and 1:02:58.360 --> 1:03:04.800 then then act stayed path and they had better seat? 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.520 Would you you only go to concerts with me and mom? 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:11.840 So you don't like concerts? You don't like hornble? What 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:16.360 concerts have you been to? Bad concerts? What about Corey's 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:20.040 storyline with Mincas what happened there? He loves baseball, That's 1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:23.720 why the oh in boy is a baseball to pay 1:03:24.280 --> 1:03:27.400 whatever her name is. What about her? She wasn't in this? 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:29.800 She was not in this. We filmed this episode before 1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:34.040 the episode that we watched last week. What yeah, they 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.120 aired them out of order? What did you think of 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:40.320 me throwing stuff at Mincas? I loved it really little funny. 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:43.000 Wouldn't that be mean to do to somebody? You wouldn't 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:45.000 get in so much trouble if you threw a paper 1:03:45.000 --> 1:03:48.080 airplane at somebody's head you're good at. Did you make it? 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:51.360 Probably not know the props of people. Probably we prefolded 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:54.600 it for me. Did you actually have to do it him? Yeah, 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:59.320 he saw me get hurt. I don't think so. It's 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:01.320 a paper airplane, you know that doesn't really hurt. Do 1:04:01.360 --> 1:04:04.480 you think I look like I did? Then? Now your 1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:09.000 hair kinda wait? Who are the people who are will? 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:11.560 Who is going to be? Who are listening? Yeah? Do 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:14.800 you probably people mostly my age or like slightly younger 1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:17.120 than me who grew up watching Boy Meets World, Like 1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:19.320 people who remember it from when they were younger. Do 1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:21.720 you have anything you want to say to those people? Hi? 1:04:21.960 --> 1:04:24.400 And I think you're right, because boy we threw out 1:04:24.440 --> 1:04:29.200 of the Good Show. Thanks. Yeah, I think that's nice 1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:31.600 and I hope they agree that there's too much shirts 1:04:31.640 --> 1:04:35.360 in the first episode. Too many shirts now that I 1:04:35.480 --> 1:04:40.840 think about it, but now we're calling this whole segment 1:04:40.880 --> 1:04:43.680 too much shirts. Yeah, we want to make t shirts 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:48.680 of it. T much shirt okay by people? Oh that's 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:51.320 so funny. Yeah, but it was so you know, like 1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:54.200 the the main storyline with Corey didn't really resonate beyond 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:56.480 Corey liking baseball, like that was you know what he 1:04:56.960 --> 1:04:58.880 But the Eric storyline, he's like that he's trying to 1:04:58.880 --> 1:05:01.680 get backstage passes, and felt like he picked up all 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:05.080 those subtle nuances, of which they wrote none. I'm happy 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:09.240 he had noticed. I wasn't there makes me loved totally. No, 1:05:09.400 --> 1:05:11.320 he was very concerned. You know, I was like, where's 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:15.600 she because the last episode all about her? Yeah? Yeah, 1:05:15.640 --> 1:05:19.480 where Chico? That is so cute and he now knows 1:05:19.600 --> 1:05:25.560 too many shirts about it that I think about it. Yeah, 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:27.480 he's a little embarrassed. I think that that's become the 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:30.840 catchphrase because it makes him sound young, but I think 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:42.440 it's so funny. So we're in Phoenie's classroom. Mincus is 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:44.840 back to his normal attire, saying he's more of a 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:47.880 Connie Chung kind of guy than a Cindy Crawford guy, 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:51.880 and Corey asks Mancus a geography question that that was 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:54.800 in the you know the tournament that basically the one 1:05:54.840 --> 1:06:00.160 he lost on and has the answer right away. Um. 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:03.040 Corey tells Mr Feenie he tries his he tried his hardest, 1:06:03.080 --> 1:06:06.040 but Mincus would have taken home the trophy. And Mr 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:08.840 Feenie shows Corey that he actually got an A on 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:11.840 this week's exam. It's his first ever A from Feenie, 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:16.160 and Mr Feenie has the very cute moment with Corey 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:19.480 where he walks over and he puts the A test 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:23.760 up on the board where the tournament plaque would normally 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:27.400 have gone had he won. And uh again we see 1:06:27.440 --> 1:06:30.600 this very cute moment and Ben, Ben and Bill actually 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:34.080 high five. I thought it's very cute, it was great. 1:06:35.160 --> 1:06:41.480 I welled up. I can't help. That's Superman line in 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:43.520 that one episode really got me. But I haven't. I 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:47.080 haven't quite welled up since I This was a This 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:50.160 was a moderate, like a minor well up. It wasn't 1:06:50.200 --> 1:06:52.600 on par with the super with the Superman well up, 1:06:52.680 --> 1:06:56.480 but that feeling of like, you know, I think a 1:06:56.520 --> 1:06:59.120 lot about having kids now of my own. I think 1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:02.880 a lot about what the best way is of encouraging 1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:05.560 them and of giving them compliments for when they work 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:08.360 really hard, Like I naturally have a tendency to say 1:07:08.400 --> 1:07:11.640 good job about just about everything, and then I realized, like, 1:07:12.200 --> 1:07:15.640 that isn't actually helpful. What's really helpful, yeah, is is 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:17.600 when he when I can tell that he's really worked 1:07:17.600 --> 1:07:19.959 at something, being like, wow, I can see how hard 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:22.280 you worked at that, And so I try to be 1:07:22.400 --> 1:07:24.280 very aware of that language that I use in what 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:27.800 I give him compliments on and so um, seeing it 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:32.440 happen with Poenie in this place and imagining, like knowing 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:34.479 the kind of pride you get when you've done something 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:36.680 and you've achieved something, it just made it. Yeah, it 1:07:36.680 --> 1:07:39.919 made me well up thinking that that Peoenie gave this 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:44.040 boy the truthfully is really hard on, Like, he's really 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:46.840 hard on Corey, and for valid reason. You know, Corey 1:07:46.920 --> 1:07:49.760 is you know, not necessarily the greatest student or whatever. 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:53.160 He's constantly coming up with issues. But seeing him go 1:07:53.280 --> 1:07:55.720 out of his way to do the opposite, to really 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:59.280 drive home the point that he is smart and that 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:01.680 his effort is worth something and that he's proud of 1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:03.840 him is what made me well up. Is Like, you 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:06.440 made Phoenie proud, And don't we all want that feeling 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:09.160 of making Phoenie proud. Well, there is that kind of 1:08:09.240 --> 1:08:14.120 that kind of realization with Phoenie that whether it's compliments 1:08:14.360 --> 1:08:18.240 or whatever it is, or education or learning, you have 1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:21.080 to earn it. You always have to earn it with him, 1:08:21.080 --> 1:08:23.280 and I liked that That's kind of how we felt. 1:08:23.479 --> 1:08:26.400 It sounds so strange, but people always ask like, we're 1:08:26.560 --> 1:08:29.320 William Daniels and Mr Feenie similar And I always felt 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:32.040 that way with Bill when it came to compliments with 1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:36.320 him about acting or our conduct on the set, I 1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:38.439 felt like I had to earn it, and I liked that. 1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:41.040 I liked feeling like I wanted to earn his respect, 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:43.479 and I feel like I did eventually. But that's what 1:08:43.600 --> 1:08:45.720 I felt like that that this moment with Phoenie was like, 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:48.400 look what you earned, Like you did this, you studied, 1:08:48.439 --> 1:08:50.320 you put in the time, and you earned the high five. 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:53.160 And I thought that was really cool. Yeah. So the 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:55.760 tag is in the Matthews family living room. Corey is 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:58.559 watching a baseball game. The announcer says that the bat 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:01.599 girl has run onto the field with a protest banner, 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:05.479 and then we see them have again the discussion that's 1:09:05.520 --> 1:09:10.160 in the geography tournament, and I couldn't really tell what 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:14.160 this What the joke was is the joke that even 1:09:14.200 --> 1:09:17.920 the baseball announcer knows the answer to this question, and 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:21.320 like everyone knows that, how did he not know? I 1:09:21.360 --> 1:09:23.080 think it's just that we, you know, because when we're 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:26.680 watching the be we're thinking, this is so obscure, this 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:28.960 is so the big joke is that it's not obscure. 1:09:29.000 --> 1:09:31.960 It's not And was this one of our Was this 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:35.439 our dialogue coach Christopher Kier's voice? He might have been 1:09:35.560 --> 1:09:38.120 Chris Kayer, Chris, I was trying to listen to the 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:41.240 voice everything. Certainly wasn't one of our writers, because I 1:09:41.280 --> 1:09:43.840 was like, Okay, who is this? Is this? Minnell is 1:09:43.880 --> 1:09:45.360 that I don't think it was one of our one 1:09:45.360 --> 1:09:47.719 of our writers. But I remember these lines because we 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:50.240 we said these as jokes forever. This was very much 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:52.640 an inside joke. I think it might have tend our 1:09:52.720 --> 1:09:57.280 dialogue coach Chris kay was at the time. He had retired, obviously, 1:09:57.280 --> 1:09:59.840 but at the time was the youngest ring master in 1:10:00.120 --> 1:10:03.599 history of the Ringling Barn and Bailey Circus ringmaster at 1:10:03.600 --> 1:10:05.639 like the age of twenty three years. We should get 1:10:05.680 --> 1:10:08.519 Chris Kayer on the show. He's still good friends with 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.280 Dedy I believe or somebody. He's still good friends with somebody. 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:14.240 He's also friends with Tony O'Dell, who is a dialogue 1:10:14.240 --> 1:10:17.120 coach in My Great Guy. He was always very nice 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:20.439 and very helpful, so it was great. Yeah, I think 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:22.120 we should Uh, I think we should try to get 1:10:22.160 --> 1:10:24.200 him on the show. That would be great. Um. One 1:10:24.200 --> 1:10:26.200 of my favorite lines, just to recap in this episode, 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:28.880 One of my favorite lines is when uh, we've seen 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:33.000 Mincus in the Big Yellow chants and uh, Mr Feenie says, 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:38.040 sometimes a man doesn't know another Yeah, sometimes the Sometimes 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:40.800 a man doesn't know a struggle until he's walked a 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:45.720 mile in another man's humongous pants. Humongouss I thought. It 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:47.519 just made me laugh. And his delivery, ever, it was 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.800 so great. It's one of my favorites. So uh, thank 1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:52.760 you for joining us for this episode. Next week, we 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:56.040 are going to be recapping season one episode six, Boys 1:10:56.120 --> 1:11:01.320 to Mensa, which originally aired on October and we have 1:11:01.360 --> 1:11:04.600 a very special guest. We will be talking to someone 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:09.080 who sat in the death chair. We will be talking 1:11:09.320 --> 1:11:13.879 to Marty York. We're very excited to have him. UM. 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:16.639 Looking forward to catching up with him and also known 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:19.120 for the sand Lot. Yeah, we have some sand Lot 1:11:19.120 --> 1:11:21.600 fans out there. Oh yes, how could you forget the 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:23.439 sand Lot? Yeah? So, but we have we have a 1:11:23.720 --> 1:11:25.479 someone who actually sat in the death chair. We've done 1:11:25.479 --> 1:11:27.400 so much talking about it. We'll get to hear what 1:11:27.560 --> 1:11:31.800 that experience, what that experience was like. 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