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Speaker 1: I want to camp roller blade. Probably there was, Yeah,

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00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still around, but they were,

427
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: and it was right in my hometown in Santa Rosa,

428
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: which is like right near where I grew up. Um

429
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: they were. They were the big push for for inline

430
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: skating as like a movement at the time. And where

431
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: in Santa Rosa there is a Snoopy ice skating rank

432
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: UM and it's Um, the daughter of Charles Schultz who

433
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: created Snoopy, and they have this ice skating rank and

434
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: his world famous and she was a huge supporter of

435
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: inline skating and she like started camp Rollerblade and we

436
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: would go and like do ramps and have like professional

437
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: rollerblade teachers come and like, yeah, it was a whole

438
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: week of rollerblade. It was just crazy. But it seems

439
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: like a camp with a lot of broken wrists. Oh yeah,

440
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: people who got wrecked. I remember like air accidents every day.

441
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: I remember watching it was either Cheach and it was

442
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: Cheach or Chong Son. It was Cheech marins Son. I

443
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: think who Um smashed his face on a ramp and

444
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: I watched it happened like he did some kind of

445
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: amazing amazing because they like nine foot ramps. This was

446
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: like serious weird. I wasn't that great, but yeah it was.

447
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: It was you know, it was like a skateboard camp,

448
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: but it was before rollerblade and it was it was

449
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: like a gator culture thing and he just wrapped. I

450
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: remember watching his face bounce on the on the ramp.

451
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: It was awful. That sounds like a fun camp. Yeah,

452
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: she wants to say, any camp where you can break

453
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: some bones is a good time too. Yeah. So Amy

454
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: says that she will call a sitter and they'll all

455
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: go together because Amy and Allen are also going to

456
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: the Aerosmith concert, and Eric is furious. He doesn't want

457
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: to go to the show with his parents, as Aerosmith

458
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: is too loud for people their age. Uh. And then Corey,

459
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: Sewn and Ellis walk into the kitchen holding Mincas hostage

460
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: Um and they introduced Minkas to Amy and we get

461
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: him his adorable line call my mother and yelling his

462
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: phone number up the stairs. Can we talk about a

463
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: couple of things? First of all, can we talk about

464
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: a little bit we we we we do like to

465
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: bracket things that haven't aged well. And a little bit

466
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: of grabbing the weaker kid and surrounding him and pulling

467
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: him kind of threatening lee into somebody's house was a

468
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: little weird for me. I get they played it comedically

469
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: and it was, but it was a little that that

470
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: was a little weird, a little bullish for me. But

471
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: then the other thing, which I'm wondering if this was

472
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: an inside joke, one of kind of the first inside

473
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: jokes we had, because we had just gone through the

474
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: Lempy Minkus thing. When he goes up the stairs, he said,

475
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: it's the only Mincus in the book, which I thought

476
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: was a joke. On the fact that they couldn't clear

477
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: the Lempy name. I wouldn't be surprised, And so it

478
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: was kind of a straight up inside baseball like no

479
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: one like some people would think it was funny, but

480
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: if you knew the whole story on the set, it

481
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: was like, we could clear the name, so it's the

482
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: only Mincus in the book. That's what kind of went

483
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: through my head. I'm wondering if that's what it was.

484
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: I bet you was h Yeah, it could have been.

485
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: It's also just funny because how many mincus Is have

486
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: you ever heard of? And so it's also funny just

487
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: on its own that like, don't be surprised, but there's

488
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: only one. You know, it worked on a bunch of levels.

489
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons they

490
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: put it in because they were able to clear the

491
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: name because it was the only Mancus, like there was

492
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: no Mankas. And we get Lily sitting on the counter

493
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: throwing away groceries, which is cute. I thought it was

494
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: funny the way she says it's hiding the liver. And

495
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: this is the first time we've all worked together. I mean,

496
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: this is the first night we've shot. This is the

497
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: first night in front of an audience. I've never been

498
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: in front of an audience like this before. This is

499
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: the first time that you see the Matthews family. I

500
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: mean it might be the fifth episode, but we've never

501
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: done this before. So that was something that that was

502
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: always going through my head as I was watching this

503
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: is like, this is the first time we'd ever done this.

504
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: I can I can imagine the energy for all of

505
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: you was I was super high. Yeah, so nervous? Does

506
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: it come across that way? By the way, it feels

507
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: very much like we're in the fifth episode and not

508
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: like this is the first knowing Will though Will is

509
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: not Will's presenting, you know, he's He's definitely presenting more.

510
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: And then he is comfortable in his own skin and

511
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: this just then just say the lines. Yeah, it was

512
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: just so nerve wracking. But again it shows how good

513
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: Like we keep talking about Lee, who could completely in

514
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: control of his study, his voice and the great character

515
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: and is holding for laughs already and I mean it's

516
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: just so natural. Yeah he is. So we go up

517
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: to Korey and Eric's room. Sean says that one out

518
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: of every four people is a nerd and if you

519
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: look around and no one else is there, it must

520
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: be you. And they want to change his image. They're

521
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: trying to convince him not to do the geography tournament,

522
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: and Minca says he'll only quit the tournament if they

523
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: promised not to throw the ball at his head during

524
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: bombardment anymore. Yeah, this is the scene that bothered me.

525
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't so because you know, the grabbing him

526
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: and taking the hostage, this thing, I mean, and this

527
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: just goes back We've talked a lot about the nerd stuff. Yeah,

528
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's so dated this that there's a

529
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: there's a normal way to be and then there's an

530
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: unusual nerdy way to be. And like, you know, the

531
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: obvious question is maybe just don't throw the ball at

532
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: the kid's head, you know, But like, for whatever reason,

533
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: the logic of this scene is that's going to happen

534
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: just because you're so different and nerdy, So don't you

535
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: You have to change, buddy, You have to have this

536
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: nerd makeover in order to be accepted by everybody else's

537
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: And thats just that blows. Man. It sucks. It sucks.

538
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: It does. It absolutely sucks as somebody as not that

539
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of nerd, but as a fantasy nerd, and like

540
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: like that type of nerd growing up you always were

541
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: a bit like pushed it and you always wanted to

542
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: be part of the cooler crowd. But it also doesn't

543
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: even matter what it is, right, whatever it is, if

544
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: you're an outsider like in the nineties, if you were

545
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: different in any way about yeah, exactly, and that that's

546
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: really the worst part of American culture, but especially in

547
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: the nineties, it really reached its peak, the sense that like,

548
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: you know, if you're cool, you do these certain things

549
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: where you watch these movies or these TV shows, are

550
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: listen to this music, and you have this way of

551
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: speaking and acting. And if you don't adhere to those rules,

552
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: whether because you're a nerd or you're gay or anything different,

553
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: you must be there's must be something wrong with you,

554
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: and that's your problem. And I am so glad that

555
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: that has changed, because I remember feeling that like uncomfortable,

556
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Like I remember wrestling with it myself, and so in

557
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: a day to day just feeling like there's a mainstream

558
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: and I should adhere to it or live up to it.

559
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: And then there's the you know, and so the fact

560
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: that we were encouraging that on our shows, it's a

561
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: real bummer and it well, I mean, I remember talking

562
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: about any when you're a kid, especially during the nineties,

563
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties, anything different was bad. Anything even

564
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: if it was something good, it was bad. So I

565
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: was an actor and I was on a show on Nickelodeon,

566
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: and I thought I was doing something positive and cool

567
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: and for a good year in probably seventh or eighth grade.

568
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Every time I opened my mouth to answer a question

569
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: or do something in class, somebody would go, I'm sorry,

570
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: I was just acting like it was it was just

571
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: a thing where because that was a John Lovett's thing

572
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: on SNL and every time I opened my mouth, so

573
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: it just maybe not want to speak like I'm okay,

574
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to raise my hand answer a question.

575
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I was completely outcast in my high school. In my

576
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: junior high I was made fun of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

577
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: And it's like you're doing something positive and something great,

578
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. You're different. You're just different and

579
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: different bad. And so it was yeah that we we

580
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: we did lay into that a little bit, especially in

581
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: this episode. It's like, well, you gotta like sports or

582
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: you're you're bad, and it's like, you know, I think

583
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: it probably still happens nowadays, even though like that idea

584
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: writer that you're talking about isn't quite the same now

585
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: where you know, if you're interested in anything outside the norm,

586
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: you have to change. Something must be wrong with you.

587
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: That is different, thankfully, But like the Ages of eleven

588
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: to thirteen, maybe even fourteen are just rough. Everyone is

589
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: trying to blend in and fit in and please don't

590
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: let anything make me stand out. And so you know

591
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: there's always a battle of some sorts. But whether it's

592
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: it's it's not as black and white, right, it's not

593
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: as like I or or I mean, I think hopefully,

594
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that there's now just a general recognition of

595
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: plurality and and notion that the diversity that you can

596
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: be a different type of person. Uh, you know, we

597
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: talked about a lot more than yeah, but we just

598
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: we probably talked about this maybe too much. But it

599
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: was a monoculture. You know, everybody was watching the same

600
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: there's we had twenty four million people tuning into our

601
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: television show and we were not the biggest show on television.

602
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So you think about how that, you know,

603
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: tells people or it sort of creates a model of like,

604
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: this is the way to be, this is the show

605
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: to watch, These are the movies that everybody And now

606
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: I think there's just so many different types of content.

607
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: There's so many different types of clothing styles, there's so

608
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: many different types of music and whatever it is. It

609
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: seems like there's more of a recognition of plurality. But yes,

610
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: I think locally within like a given classroom, this is

611
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: always going to be a struggle, right, There's always gonna

612
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: be status games. There's always going to be a struggle

613
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: for status and who's cool popularity of some sort. Yes,

614
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: but fully it's not based on such an easy archetype

615
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: or an easy stereotype like the nerd versus the non nerd. Well.

616
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: The thing that that amazed me was was as I

617
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: got older and tried to let go of a lot

618
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: of that stuff that happened to me in middle school

619
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: and things like that, and became friendly again as an

620
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: adult with those kids I grew up with. You found

621
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: out that almost to a person, whether they were popular

622
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: or not, they also hated it. They were also having

623
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: the worst time in middle school or the worst time

624
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: in high school. It wasn't like, oh man, i've met

625
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: like three people in my life that was like high

626
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: school was the best time in my life. Everybody was

627
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: struggling with it. Everybody hated it, and you thought you

628
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: were the only one going through it, and even the

629
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: popular kids were like, no, it was terrible on me too.

630
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I had a bad home life for I struggled to

631
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: stay popular, or if I did that, you know you

632
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: had an eating disorder. Everybody had something. So we get

633
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: back into the kitchen and Eric tells his parents they

634
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: cannot go to the Aerosmith concert. Eric says it's his

635
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: first concert, but his parents say, actually they went when

636
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: Amy was pregnant with Eric, and Alan's says they have

637
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: third row seats. He jokes about how old guys get

638
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: good seats, and Amy says maybe they can get Eric

639
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: and Heather decent seats so they can at least see

640
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: the stage. But Eric says he doesn't want to be

641
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: at the same show as his parents, and he's He

642
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: leaves in a huf, saying he's going to go see

643
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: if he can get tickets to Eric Clapton. I also

644
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: thought there was a line from Rusty where he says,

645
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: get a clue, and it seemed like that was another

646
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: thing they were trying to make, trying to do it. Yeah,

647
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: they were, They were definitely trying to do it. And

648
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to just quickly give a shout out to

649
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: my giant purple sweatshirt at the top. But it was very,

650
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: very bottom heavy, yeah, very baldos in the sleeves as well. Yes, yes,

651
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: bulbous is a good a good way to describe that sweatshirt,

652
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: you know. I think for me in this episode, one

653
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: of the things that just seeing seems like it's a

654
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: little weak. The whole premise of you being so unhappy

655
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: about them going to the concert alone just has really

656
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: no legs. It just I felt like there needed to

657
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: be something more like I'm worried you're gonna embarrass me.

658
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: I you've never met had there are something there needed

659
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: to be more there than just like so offended that

660
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: you were going to be in the same place that

661
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Eric was. That was it, by the way, at the

662
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: same place. I could see the storyline being like, wait

663
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: a minute, we're not sitting together, are we, and then

664
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: when you find out we're sixty four rows apart, being like,

665
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: good please just pretend if you see me, pretend you

666
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I wonder how much of this was based

667
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: on the idea that they were trying to establish. I mean,

668
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: this is if this is the first episode of filming,

669
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: this would be Rusties first episode two. And I think

670
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: that establishing that the parents were not that they had

671
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: some countercultural street cred, that they were kind of cool.

672
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: They're not regular parents. They were. I think that was

673
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: very important to attracting Rusty to the part, because that's

674
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: kind of Rusty's vibe. And I think that that was

675
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: important to establish for Michael and the team, like these

676
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: are not going to be the typical sitcom parents. They're

677
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna listen to cool music. They're gonna wear

678
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: their denim jackets and we'll talk about later, and like

679
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be you and so I think in order

680
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: to create that tension, they had to force this situation

681
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: where Will's character is upset about it, like or overly

682
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: upset about it, because like, really there is no conflict here, right.

683
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: It's such as also problem. It's also an acting choice

684
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: because this exact same storyline could have been taken differently

685
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: if it was handled by season six Eric as opposed

686
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: to season one Eric. You know, no, I'm not trying

687
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: to beat myself up. I'm saying the acting choice of

688
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: playing it angry. But here's the problem, and funny, here's

689
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: the real problem with it. What does what does Eric do?

690
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Does Eric make a choice? Does he change exactly? So

691
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: it's a completely inactive protagonist, and that's bad. Writing like

692
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: there's no choices made. Now if Eric decided to do

693
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: something and then because of that there was a backfired situation,

694
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: he calls and cancels the parents so they can't go

695
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: does something. But instead it's just a presentation of a situation,

696
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: and you can play about it and then that situations

697
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: and then that happens again and then complain about it

698
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: in front of the kind of their for no real

699
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: reason and actor protagonist. Naturally it's a useless it is

700
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: absolutely yeah, and but again played angry like I'm angry

701
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: the whole You have to create conflict exactly, conflict you're

702
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: just creating. Hardly is an actor to create conflict, it's not. Yeah,

703
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: it was very interesting. So the next day, sweashirt, that's

704
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: what That's what stole the scene. The next day, we're

705
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: at school and Mincas tells Mr Feeney he's resigning from

706
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: the tournament. He says the tournament doesn't fit in with

707
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: his new image, which is Stewart Mincas regular guy. Um

708
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: Mincas says that exceptional guys get bombardment balls thrown at

709
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: their heads. Do you guys know of a game called bombardment?

710
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: Is that a real game? It is it's they've they've

711
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: just changed. Um. The name of bombardment is just dodgeball's compartment.

712
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: But the trade had compartment or did we call I

713
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: think I think there's They called it bombardment. I don't

714
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: know why, but it's essentially dodgeball. That's all Bombardment is. If, if, unless,

715
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: unless somebody's like no, the rules are different. It's the same.

716
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: You throw balls at people. If it hits you, you're out.

717
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: If you catch it, the person who threw it is out.

718
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: Dodgeball is trademarked or something. I could be wrong, but

719
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it is. Um. So Mr Feenie tries

720
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: to see if his image can wait until after the tournament.

721
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Corey stays back in the classroom. He's ready for Mr

722
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Feenie once Mincus quits, and Mr Feenie said, there won't

723
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: be a tournament. If it's going to have to be

724
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: Corey in the tournament, then there will be no tournament

725
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: because Corey has never shown any interest in geography, and

726
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Corey says he's willing to learn. Mr Feenie says that okay,

727
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: he will agree to prep Corey for the tournament, and

728
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: he hopes that the prize is actually going to lead

729
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: to him wanting to learn. And um, now we get

730
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: Foenie and Corey for the first time kind of in

731
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a scheme together. Yeah, not

732
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: really quite a scheme, but yeah, it's cute that they're

733
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's see a chance on each other,

734
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: right Exactly, I like them. Mr Feenie is willing to

735
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: play this out as well. That's what I mean again.

736
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: You think when you look back, Foenie knows he's gonna lose.

737
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Foenie knows he's not gonna win, but he's also seeing

738
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: if Corey is going to actually learn. And I think

739
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: that's what is don't you think that Mr Feenie by

740
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: this point he knows it's like, all right, the title's gone.

741
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: I have no chance. Corey is not going to win

742
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: this thing. But if I could get this one kid

743
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: to actually learn something that he didn't want to learn before,

744
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: then I win as a teacher anyway. Exactly, they only

745
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: lose lose. Situation here for Foenie is if he doesn't

746
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: end up learning anything and he loses the tournament. But

747
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: the hope is if I can at least get him

748
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: to learn something I will feel like a winner. Um.

749
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: And so we are back in the Matthew's backyard. Corey

750
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: is steadily studying geography while show. Yeah, I so indelibly

751
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: remember carpet Dum, Mr Foenie. And it's funny because I

752
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: wonder how much I remember that so so vividly, because

753
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: it was probably the first time I'd ever heard that

754
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: phrase carpet do you know what I mean? So it's

755
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: so interesting. Also takes that pause though there's the pause

756
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: between carpet d um and Mr Feenie. He doesn't go

757
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: carpet d um, Mr Feenie goes carpet d um, Mr Feenie. Yeah.

758
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Well we said it for a while, but I just

759
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: it's so funny because the second it came out of

760
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: Lee's mouth, I was like, oh my god. But yeah,

761
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that is because I was

762
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: backstage or at our table read hearing that and going

763
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: what is this phrase? And I probably asked somebody or

764
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: looked it up. I probably asked, you will because you

765
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: spoke Latin at the time or read Latin at the

766
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: spoke and read at the time. I did. Actually, yeah, yeah,

767
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just you know, now it's one of

768
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: those things you hear all the time, but twelve or thirteen,

769
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: I probably never heard that phrase before. So anyway, that

770
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: line is like etched in my brand, and it's there

771
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: was a couple of teams, you know. The other one

772
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: we said all the time was Duan's line. We said,

773
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: what's the point of playing if we can't throw it

774
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: at his head? We said that for years too. We

775
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: said that for years too, because we thought that was

776
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: so funny that we just kept saying that as well, Yeah,

777
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: that's funny. All the lines that we used to repeat backstage,

778
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: you never knew what was gonna which one was gonna hit,

779
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden from the first season though,

780
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: I think and I think it's because we were all

781
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: so aware of each other's lines and the you know,

782
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: we were an ensemble that we're working our way through

783
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: the script and there's lines that come and go and

784
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: jokes that hit or miss, and even something that might

785
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: not that might miss in the final tape Night could

786
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: have landed so hard during a rehearsal that it became

787
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: an inside joke for us exactly even if it didn't

788
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: make it to air. So in the Matthews backyard, Corey

789
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: is studying geography. Sean and Ellis try to get him

790
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: to the park and he and they say that he's

791
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: studying too much. Mincus shows up in one of the

792
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: greatest outfits of all time. The largest shorts I've ever

793
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: seen on a non clown. Just amazing, those big yellow

794
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: they are they're shams, but they're also they're they're also

795
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: just like a barrel around his waist and the shoes

796
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: his feet look I mean, of course the hood we

797
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: could and suspenders to hold up those short It's just incredible.

798
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: We will put this picture on our Instagram for you

799
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: Pod Meets World show. I wonder about the outfits they rejected,

800
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: where they were like, Nope, that's not going to work,

801
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: that's not Oh there you go, got it, nailed it,

802
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: nailed it. That's the one. Um So, Corey says he

803
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: needs Mincas's help studying, but Minca says absolutely not. He

804
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: tells Fenny he watched MTV's House of Style, which is

805
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: where he put together this outfit and style it was.

806
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: It was a show about clothing, yes, and it was

807
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: hosted by supermodel Cindy Crawford work. But did people dress

808
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: like this back there. Yeah, I think it's I think

809
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't very I think it was a very kid

810
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: and play style, you know, mode of dressing. My my

811
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: husband at the time dressed very much like this. Jensen

812
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: card I would have would have worn an outfit very

813
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: much like Thisto. Can we please find a picture of that?

814
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Please please find a picture of that. Well, we'll find one.

815
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you ever wore suspects like that, but

816
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: he definitely wore spenders. Doesn't seem no accurate. Suspenders kind

817
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: of became cool like late nineties in like, yeah, there

818
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: was a moment. I did remember wearing suspenders later in

819
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: the nineties, but yeah, suspenders cross colors was big in

820
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: the early nineties. There's Team magazine shoots of me and suspenders, Yes,

821
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: there are. We'll find that as well. Look for those

822
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: for sure. I have them all in the garage. So

823
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Mincas says he's now leaving to go watch Beavis and

824
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: butt Head, and we get our first reference. Actually that's

825
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: first laugh. That's why they put it back. That's why

826
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: they put it back in. Exactly got a wou so

827
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: it came back. So the people in the audience loved them.

828
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: Some Beavis and butt head popular at the time. So

829
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: then we are back home in the kitchen. Family, We're

830
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: back home in the kitchen. This is also I thought,

831
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: isn't this the moment Ben had a great moment that

832
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: made me laugh out? Isn't this the snort where he

833
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: kind of yes, where he goes, he goes because he's

834
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: now like the quote unquote nerds, So it's like, oh,

835
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: he's snorting. But the way he did it was actually

836
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: very funny. Yeah, that was the first time where I

837
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: was like, okay, that was that was a good comedy

838
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: right there, Dwan as Ellis says something like he's he's morphing, right,

839
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: is that what he says, He's morphing something like that. Yeah,

840
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: mutinating was very funny in that moment. I thought I

841
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: thought they could have made a bigger moment out of

842
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: it because it kind of like it was really brushed over.

843
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: But that's what I kind of liked about. It was

844
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: just a quick little like he's oh he snorted like

845
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: it was um. So we're at home in the kitchen.

846
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: The family is quizzing Corey on his geography. Eric calls

847
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: out artists, trying to get his parents to go to

848
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: another concert, So he's naming a bunch of people. I

849
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: liked the line Tina Turner and she says my mother's

850
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: my mother's Yeah, that's great, And then I was like, wow,

851
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: is that would that have been true? That, like Tina

852
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: Turner has been doing this since? Yeah? Well, I think

853
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: there weren't Icentina Turner. Were the early sixties their original,

854
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, banned group. I think I think was the

855
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: I might have even started the late fifties and then

856
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: the early sixties, and then she obviously moved away and

857
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: became much bigger in the seventies by herself, and then

858
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: it was kind of seventies eighties. Yeah, but I'm pretty

859
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: sure they would have been the late fifties, early sixties. Argentina.

860
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: What a career. Um. They tell Eric that he should

861
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: rebel and not go to the show, and would you

862
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: want to when you're that angry about this for some reason?

863
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: Just angry all episode? Just other choice? Well, you had

864
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: no other choice. You had to pretend that you were

865
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: very angry. And then we find out that you're going

866
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: to be sixty four rows behind them, which is very

867
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: funny to me. Um, And we're at the geography tournament.

868
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: The kids and their teachers are lined up on stage.

869
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: The teachers are all giving the kids massages. And uh,

870
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: that was great. Ben in his suit like it's like

871
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: so like Corey out of his elo A great suit,

872
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: by the way, I wrote down what a great suit.

873
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: It bit him perfectly. Of all the oversized clothes of

874
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: the nineties, the suits were not super big. It fit

875
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: him so well. And it's that great green color. Um.

876
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, just that, just do this with your shoulders

877
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: and rolling his shoulders are feeling a little. Great moment,

878
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: so good, so funny. I loved it, um. And so

879
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: we cut two Corey panicking on the stage during the tournament.

880
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: Corey doesn't know how to answer the question. We see

881
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: that the kids are getting very hard questions that we

882
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: never saw Corey face though when they cut to him

883
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: was perfect. That worried, ridiculous looking around was his st

884
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: That was my actual the first time I saw that actual, loud,

885
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: laugh out loud moment that wright we talked about the

886
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: equivalent of the optical flip where it is then just

887
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: on his horrified face. It was hysterical. He was great

888
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: in that moment. It is It's really funny. And Jensen

889
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: pointed out to me while we were watching it. Jensen

890
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: was like, you know what made this show different than

891
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: other shows is that I think other sitcoms would have

892
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: had him at least get something right, Like you would

893
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: have seen him maybe not win the tournament, but like

894
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: he wouldn't know nothing, and instead he just literally is

895
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's as if they're speaking a totally different

896
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: language than he speaks. Um And I don't know necessarily

897
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: whether or not another show would have done that, but

898
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: Jensen was really like, I think this separates the show

899
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: that he really knew nothing, right, Well, it takes us

900
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: on more of a journey, right because he's he's learned something,

901
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: or he's he's been studying so hard, which has made

902
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: him more nerdy, and you know, and we've already established

903
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: that as the problem, but then the real problem is

904
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't win the content, win the be like, so

905
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: it takes it to the next level. It's good storytelling,

906
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is like you just keep twisting the

907
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: expectations because it's like, oh, he's a nerd. Now he's

908
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna go win the contest, and you know, there's still

909
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: another twist coming, there's still another turn to this show. Yeah,

910
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: he still doesn't know a lot, and he may he

911
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: may have learned, he may have learned something, but he

912
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: still doesn't know everything he needs to know in order

913
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: to win a tournament. So Corey doesn't know how to

914
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: answer the question he's given and he has left on

915
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: stage at the very end of his loss. He's by himself,

916
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: and the girl who wins walks by with her trophy

917
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: and says that the bat Boy prize is stupid. I

918
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: love the voices of those two girls. They both had

919
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: like these deep voices that I just loved. I think

920
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: they I think they they just made them stand out,

921
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: and they were both so cute. I thought that was um,

922
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you very easily could have had one of

923
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: your topanga's there. Yeah. Yeah, it could have been you, Daniel.

924
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: That could have been me if only I got the

925
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: audition for the geography tournament. Um right, I was fish Girl.

926
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: So we're in the Matthews family living room. Eric and

927
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: Heather are back home from the concert and they are

928
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: telling Corey that they saw Amy and Allan dancing in

929
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: the aisle. Um. This was my audition piece. That was

930
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: my audition scene. I so I tried to look down

931
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: in the rose Ce scene Mom and Dad. No, mom

932
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: and dad are dancing in the aisles. That is I

933
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: had to sit there and say that in New York,

934
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: then on film, then in l A. How many times

935
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: did Michael tell you were doing it wrong? And to

936
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: do it? You know what? You know what I honestly

937
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: remember about about my audition process. I remember two things.

938
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: I remember that Ben was there. I'm sorry, I remember

939
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: three things. I remember that Ben was there and reading

940
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: with us for a different scene that wasn't that was

941
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: was a UM probably from the bedroom scene. It was

942
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: a bedroom scene in the pilot that that we we

943
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: read together. And then I remember going in and reading.

944
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: So the process was you would you would first go

945
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: to UM producers, so you would. It's a hard auditioning

946
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: for shows back in the day, and I'll do this

947
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: very quickly. Was just the most miserable, stressful, awful day

948
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: you could possibly imagine. It's not that I don't think

949
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: it's still the full day process that it that it was.

950
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: If I've heard in front of theaters, is it still

951
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: the same because now everything's like on tape and they

952
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: do this and there's so many to have the backdrop

953
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: you have to adjust your own lighting. You have to

954
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: have cameras, you have to have a reader, actually a

955
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: network testing, factual network testing. Yes, it depends on the show,

956
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: but I don't think they do. They don't bring you

957
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: in front of a room of forty to fifty people

958
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: like they used to, which is what it was. But

959
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: I think they would on a sitcom. I think they

960
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: would on a sitcom. In fact, they've done test shoots

961
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: for sitcoms these days where they actually go to a stage.

962
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: I have, Oh, I'd much rather do that, But no,

963
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: with single camera stuff, I think nowadays they do mostly

964
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: like a cinematic sort of screen test where you go

965
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: to a studio with the director and reader and you

966
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: go do it alone, which is great because this one

967
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: you used to go and you'd sit the first thing.

968
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: So I flew in from from New York to l A.

969
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: And then you started like nine o'clock in the morning,

970
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: and you go to producers and say there's three of

971
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: you auditioning. So you walk into a room and say

972
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: there's fifteen producers there, and you read the scenes through

973
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: however you're going to read them through, and then you

974
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: come out and then they'll usually say like Okay, go

975
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: to lunch. That's going to take like a couple of hours.

976
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: They take their time. You sit there and you wait,

977
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: You're all anxious. It's awful. And then you get a

978
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: call from your agent or manager saying, okay, you're going

979
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: to the next level, which is network. And then you

980
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: go to the studio studio before network. Studio is next,

981
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: which is then more people in the room, and it's

982
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: all the people from at the time we were touchdown

983
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff. Also at this point,

984
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: that's the point at which you sign a contract. Yes,

985
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: sign a contract before you do your people auditioning. Sign

986
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: a contract yes, and and so you're looking at a

987
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: how much money you'll make be it's a thick country,

988
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: and then you'll be how many years you're going to

989
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: be committed to this thing because it has all your

990
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: pay lane laid out, and how much it's going to

991
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: get your going, what kind of rays you're going to

992
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: get as the because they want to lock you in

993
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: because oftentimes you're you're in demand at another show or whatever,

994
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: so they you'd be in first position or second position,

995
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: and when you sign that contract, you're a green to

996
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: do the show. If they've select you by the end

997
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: of that day or week or whatever the the period is. Oh,

998
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: it's so nerve wracking. It's the worst feeling because then

999
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: you just you start seeing your future. You're like, oh,

1000
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be working this next week or two weeks

1001
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: from an hour, this fall or whatever, and I'm gone,

1002
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: it's going to change. Yeah, it's it's it's insane, it's awful.

1003
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: And then you go if you get then you get

1004
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: the call whether you've moved on or not. And usually

1005
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: if you then get to network, which a lot of

1006
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: times depending on what network you're going for, it's literally

1007
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: in this theater room where there's fifty six executives sitting

1008
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: there and you perform for them, um and by the

1009
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: time you get there, it's been most of the day

1010
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: and you're exhausted, you're stressed. It's awful. Usually, if you

1011
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: started with three people, now there's just two of you,

1012
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: like they've let one of you all day together too,

1013
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: So you're sitting around and waiting with each other with

1014
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: your competition, trying to be friendly. Meanwhile going like my

1015
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: life could change tonight or your life could change, where

1016
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: we just go back to normal. It's like the worst

1017
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: the most terrible process in the world. So in between

1018
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: studio and network, Michael came out and sat down next

1019
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: to me and he said, I really think you're right

1020
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: for this project. I just need you to calm down

1021
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: and relax and really listened to Ben, and I think

1022
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: you're going to be fine. And I noticed that he

1023
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't talk to anybody else. And Jason Marsden was that guy,

1024
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: my best friend again who was auditioning with me, and

1025
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: he came out and I found out later he was like,

1026
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Ben screwed up his lines during the during the audition process,

1027
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: which screwed me up. And so Ben, the joke we

1028
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: had was Ben and he would said this to Jason

1029
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: as well. He's like, oh, no, I screwed that up

1030
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: on purpose because I wanted Will to be Eric. Um.

1031
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: He was totally kidding, of course, but that was kind

1032
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: of the joke. And when Jason then came on the show,

1033
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, you you messed up on purpose, right,

1034
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: and Ben like, of course I messed up on purpose, um,

1035
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: But it was that, you know, we were dependent on

1036
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: another actor to come in, and Ben came in and

1037
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: we had great chemistry. But that's what I remember about

1038
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: not just the scene, but also that Michael is like,

1039
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: I really think you're right for this. I just need

1040
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: you to relax and listen to Ben and that helped

1041
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: um and then we got the part. But that's what

1042
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: during this scene, that's all I see as they're I'm

1043
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: standing behind the couch and everything. I just go back

1044
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: to my audition because that's all it was was getting

1045
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: Eric with these exact lines and then meeting NICKI who

1046
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, it was always a casting director who's reading

1047
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: the part of the girl. And then it's like, oh,

1048
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: this is Nicky Cox and it's like, yeah, it was.

1049
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: It just changed the whole thing. So it's very strange too.

1050
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: I got to sketch that whole process I got I

1051
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: didn't have. I got to that hole. You got tortured

1052
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: in a whole different differently and tortured publicly in front

1053
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: of your peers. Exactly. Congratulations, we all got to watch

1054
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: your tortures. It is a horrible business and a tough process. Yeah. So,

1055
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: uh yeah, you guys are back home. By the way,

1056
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: who babysat Corey and Lily because you guys, great question.

1057
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: No one was there with them. It was just fine.

1058
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: You're already home, so maybe Corey was old enough to

1059
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: babysit his sister. She asked Eric to stay home and

1060
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: babysit them at the beginning of the episode, and then said, Okay,

1061
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: I'll call a sitter. So I don't know. I don't

1062
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe the sitter left when you got there,

1063
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: and that's not an important part to the story that

1064
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: when Eric arrived home. So, um, yeah, we see that

1065
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: you guys that you were upset because they weren't in

1066
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: their seats. They were dancing in the aisle, and you

1067
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: are just mortified by that. And then Amy and Allen

1068
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: walk in and their concert attire. They've got cool fits on,

1069
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: tied eye shirts, denim jackets, a prairie dress with necklaces,

1070
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and a vest, and it's probably embarrassing at all, but

1071
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: it's not like embarrassing. It's like they're totally kind of

1072
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: normally dressed for even slightly cool parents, you know, it's

1073
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: like they're not over the top crazy where he exactly

1074
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: but he thinks it. But going back to the time

1075
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: period and the place, maybe like I think just being

1076
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: anything slightly I mean in l A at this time,

1077
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: if you were a hit parent, you would be way

1078
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: more extreme, right, like you know, tattoos and like, but

1079
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and then if you were in Philadelphia

1080
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: and you're just going to an Arrowsmith concert, mine, I

1081
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: don't know, with a hippie shirt, like he's wearing tight eye.

1082
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: I think so all my friends wore tight eye, so

1083
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: it was like I didn't. I was like, oh, they're

1084
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: not just that strange. But I guess maybe you're Maybe

1085
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: you're right, maybe for Philly, and you know, he's supposed

1086
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: to be a grocer, and it's like what mainstream America

1087
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 1: there were still this like you know eighties hangover from

1088
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: the sixties seventies counterculture or sorry, eighties backlash to the

1089
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: sixties seventies counterculture, where you know, we were still coming

1090
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: out of this like yuppie period where it was like

1091
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: anti counter culture. For them to have any any nods

1092
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: to that sort of rock and roll counter culture would

1093
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: have been a little edgy at the time. Okay, okay,

1094
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: So this is where the premise started to feel just

1095
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: a little loose for me because he asks you directly,

1096
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: like what I don't understand, what is so? What is

1097
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: so difficult? Way is this so hard for you? And

1098
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: you have this idea that you said his parents aren't

1099
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: your parents aren't supposed to have fun. That's you're just

1100
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: supposed to stay home and wait for me. And I

1101
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: was like, that's the best answer they could. That's the

1102
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: argument here. I feel like just the premise is a

1103
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: little I don't But here's the thing though, which which

1104
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: saved it. At least Eric didn't learn anything which the room.

1105
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: I was like, there's where's the message. He's like, some

1106
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm the father that you want to deal with it.

1107
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: He walks out and it's like, Eric, wait what Like

1108
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: it was just kind of that this storyline didn't didn't

1109
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: wrap up in any way. It was just a strange,

1110
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: kreind of story, a real waste of Nicki Cox. She's

1111
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: like two things. She's just sitting there the whole and

1112
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: that she gets up and walks to the door. It's

1113
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: so bizarre. This is also for the record, this is Heather.

1114
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: So Eric has talked about Heather since the pilot. Yeah,

1115
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: you have been dating her four five episodes, and you

1116
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: know what, I think, you know what, I think. I

1117
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: think they probably wrote this as a sample scene to

1118
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: cast the character of Eric. I g you that this

1119
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: was a scene. First, it was a scene first and foremost,

1120
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: and then they had to build a storyline around it

1121
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: in two different a way. But because I bet you,

1122
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: because it's such a monologue on your part, right like there,

1123
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: you know what you and I think it was a

1124
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: test to figure out who the older brother was. So

1125
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: they probably wrote this as an audition scene cast you

1126
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: and then tried to build an episode around the one

1127
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: scene they had already written. And I think that's why

1128
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: it's not that great, is because it's all about just

1129
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: this scene, because really every other the other scenes in

1130
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: the storyline are just reiterating the same point. You have

1131
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: three scenes that do the exact same tension, and so

1132
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: I think that you know, they probably started with the

1133
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: scene and then just wrote backwards the two previous scenes

1134
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: restating the same conflict. I'm not actually developing it because

1135
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: it should have been the first scene and then you

1136
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: develop it into a storyline. But instead they just went

1137
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: to this scene, and so you have the same tensions

1138
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: and it doesn't develop, and it doesn't time that you.

1139
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: I bet you right, because you're right, nothing happens. There's

1140
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: nothing happens. Well, did you did you start dating Nikki

1141
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: this week? Like this episode is this, like, did you

1142
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: guys start dating pretty much immediately? Yes, yes, I want to.

1143
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: That's how we met, I want to say, I want to.

1144
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 1: I remember honestly thinking and shout out to Nicki Cox again.

1145
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: We we reconnected four or five years ago, um over email.

1146
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: She's such a sweetheart. Um. I remember distinctly thinking the

1147
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: first time I saw her, that's the most beautiful girl

1148
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. Um. And then we

1149
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: talked and she was so nice and so sweet that

1150
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: I instantly had a just instant crush on her. And

1151
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: we hung out that whole that whole week. I just

1152
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: remember what was a date like like what you guys

1153
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: do you We would like yeah, like you know, we

1154
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: get it was I had my car, so we pick

1155
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: my car. Yeah, we'd go into Selica. Did you show

1156
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: off your sub whiffer? I'm sure I did. You know

1157
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what rider? That was awesome. It was I'm

1158
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: not making fun of that was like, yeah, it was.

1159
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: We were like fifteen sixteen year olds dating, you know.

1160
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: We'd help, we hold hands and and I think we did.

1161
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: We literally like would go out and get something to

1162
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: eat or go to ice cream. It was like it

1163
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: was never serious. It was like did you ever go

1164
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: to eds w Yes, we have to talk. No longer exists.

1165
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: But it was a diner in l a where it

1166
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: was all out of Lost Tis Plane characters. Was as

1167
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: the waiters and waitresses, so they would be in character

1168
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: sort of being like, you know, tough, funny off the table. Yeah,

1169
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: but it was a kid friendly diner place where it

1170
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: was it was fistner. It was amazing. So I actually

1171
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: have a friend who have become friends with an amazing

1172
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: actors named Rusty Swimmer who worked there, and when I

1173
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: first met her, she was like I served you back

1174
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: in the night. She's an incredible director. If you look

1175
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: her up anybody listening, Rusty Swimmers one of one of

1176
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: the most talented, amazing actresses. You guys would know her

1177
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: in a hartpage. She's been in everything, and for comedy

1178
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: and for drama. But anyway, yeah, she she always talked

1179
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: about how she worked at Oh No, I loved. I

1180
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: had my first birthday parted. It was one of those

1181
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: places where the first time I went there, it was

1182
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: like thirteen and you'd look away and then you'd look

1183
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: back and one of the waiters or waitresses would be

1184
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: sitting next to you eating your fries. They would do that.

1185
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: It's like, what character as like Buddy Holly and like

1186
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: Maryland were they pretending to be? Actually they were like

1187
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: from the fifties. No, I don't think they ever went

1188
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: just came up with their own character and they would

1189
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: then get up and dance. They would dance to was

1190
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: y m c A or something on the table. It

1191
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: was awesome, but they kind of shade some French fries

1192
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: and young It was like the fifties diner vibe. They

1193
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: did a a spoof of it on Friends where Monica

1194
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: ends up working there and has to get on the

1195
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: table and do Y M c A. And the first

1196
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: time I saw it, I was like, oh, that's absolutely

1197
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: amdibetics Ever, Joey Lawrence, we should do a Chubby Can

1198
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: we do a Chubbies pop up? We've talked about this,

1199
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: but let's do a Chubbies pop up? I guess up.

1200
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: If you want to do a Chubby's pop up but

1201
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: in Philly, Yeah, yeah, we'll do a great idea. Um So,

1202
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: Eric says his parents aren't supposed to have fun. Amy

1203
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: says that they got home late because they had backstage passes.

1204
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: They just continue to one up you with the cool factor. Um.

1205
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: Eric tries to walk out, he's going to take Heather home,

1206
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: but Alan stops them. They send Corey and Morgan to bed.

1207
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: We think Eric is going to get yelled at, and

1208
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: Alan says, when he was younger, he want he had

1209
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: a father like the one that Eric wants now, but

1210
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: he really wanted a father like what Eric has, and

1211
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: so he just has to deal with it. Basically, his

1212
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: own father was like a stick in the mud, and

1213
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: he wanted a cool dad. And so Eric is not

1214
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: um appreciating the fact that having a cool dad is

1215
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: maybe better than having a stick in the mud dad.

1216
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: And then he he walks out of the room and

1217
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: after kissing me on the forehead, yeah, kissing me on

1218
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: the back of the head, and then walking out and

1219
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: then leaves you guys alone, made you sit down even

1220
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: for this conversation, and then walks out and you as Eric, thank, oh,

1221
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: did my cool parents just leave me alone with my girlfriend?

1222
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: And you guys go to kiss and then he pops

1223
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: his head out and says, not that cool, and you

1224
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: turn back on the light. So what was he doing?

1225
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: What was the point? I guess just leaving you guys

1226
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: alone to make out, like they just get alone time,

1227
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,959
Speaker 1: like without other parents and other kids around, without parents

1228
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: and other kids around. So I think it was just like, hey,

1229
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: you can be alone, but you're not gonna you can

1230
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: continue your date without all of these embarrassing factors in

1231
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: your life. But we're not going to think it was

1232
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: a button joke on a scene that made no sense.

1233
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: I think that's as far as they went with it was.

1234
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: It's like and then they try to kiss and they can't, Like,

1235
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: there's because you do you look at it and it's

1236
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: like he learns they tried to throw in the lesson

1237
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: but it didn't really work, and then he leaves him

1238
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: with the girl. It's yeah, you turn the light off.

1239
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: You're like turned the lamp off, and then you have

1240
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: to turn the light back on. Well, the rest of

1241
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: the house is perfectly lit, by the way, so it's

1242
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: just turning off the lamp right next to them, as

1243
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: if it plunges them into darkness. It's like, hey, we're

1244
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: in a slightly darker room now, Like I just might

1245
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: be a good time for too much shirts because Indie. Interestingly,

1246
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 1: Indie did not really like when I kept asking about

1247
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: the storyline. He kept just sort of coming up with

1248
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: other observations, random little things, and then we kind of

1249
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: got derailed into being recognized and acting. So but it

1250
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: was it was interesting that I kept, you know, I

1251
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: I've edited these conversations down a little bit um so,

1252
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: but there was like five minutes of me being like,

1253
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: but what happened here? And what happened here? And he

1254
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, he remembers your storyline? Well, well let's see,

1255
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: give a listen. What do you think of this episode?

1256
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: It was what about Will's storyline? What was his storyline

1257
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: going to a convery when his parents wound it and

1258
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: then then act stayed path and they had better seat?

1259
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: Would you you only go to concerts with me and mom?

1260
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: So you don't like concerts? You don't like hornble? What

1261
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: concerts have you been to? Bad concerts? What about Corey's

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Speaker 1: storyline with Mincas what happened there? He loves baseball, That's

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Speaker 1: why the oh in boy is a baseball to pay

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Speaker 1: whatever her name is. What about her? She wasn't in this?

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01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: She was not in this. We filmed this episode before

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Speaker 1: the episode that we watched last week. What yeah, they

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: aired them out of order? What did you think of

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: me throwing stuff at Mincas? I loved it really little funny.

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be mean to do to somebody? You wouldn't

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: get in so much trouble if you threw a paper

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Speaker 1: airplane at somebody's head you're good at. Did you make it?

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Speaker 1: Probably not know the props of people. Probably we prefolded

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: it for me. Did you actually have to do it him? Yeah,

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: he saw me get hurt. I don't think so. It's

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: a paper airplane, you know that doesn't really hurt. Do

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01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: you think I look like I did? Then? Now your

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: hair kinda wait? Who are the people who are will?

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Who is going to be? Who are listening? Yeah? Do

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01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: you probably people mostly my age or like slightly younger

1280
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: than me who grew up watching Boy Meets World, Like

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01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: people who remember it from when they were younger. Do

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: you have anything you want to say to those people? Hi?

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: And I think you're right, because boy we threw out

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01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: of the Good Show. Thanks. Yeah, I think that's nice

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: and I hope they agree that there's too much shirts

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: in the first episode. Too many shirts now that I

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: think about it, but now we're calling this whole segment

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01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: too much shirts. Yeah, we want to make t shirts

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01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: of it. T much shirt okay by people? Oh that's

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, but it was so you know, like

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01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: the the main storyline with Corey didn't really resonate beyond

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01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: Corey liking baseball, like that was you know what he

1293
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: But the Eric storyline, he's like that he's trying to

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01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: get backstage passes, and felt like he picked up all

1295
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: those subtle nuances, of which they wrote none. I'm happy

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01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: he had noticed. I wasn't there makes me loved totally. No,

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01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: he was very concerned. You know, I was like, where's

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01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: she because the last episode all about her? Yeah? Yeah,

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: where Chico? That is so cute and he now knows

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01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: too many shirts about it that I think about it. Yeah,

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: he's a little embarrassed. I think that that's become the

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: catchphrase because it makes him sound young, but I think

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01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: it's so funny. So we're in Phoenie's classroom. Mincus is

1304
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: back to his normal attire, saying he's more of a

1305
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: Connie Chung kind of guy than a Cindy Crawford guy,

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: and Corey asks Mancus a geography question that that was

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01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: in the you know the tournament that basically the one

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: he lost on and has the answer right away. Um.

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01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: Corey tells Mr Feenie he tries his he tried his hardest,

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01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: but Mincus would have taken home the trophy. And Mr

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01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: Feenie shows Corey that he actually got an A on

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Speaker 1: this week's exam. It's his first ever A from Feenie,

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Speaker 1: and Mr Feenie has the very cute moment with Corey

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: where he walks over and he puts the A test

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: up on the board where the tournament plaque would normally

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: have gone had he won. And uh again we see

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: this very cute moment and Ben, Ben and Bill actually

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Speaker 1: high five. I thought it's very cute, it was great.

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: I welled up. I can't help. That's Superman line in

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: that one episode really got me. But I haven't. I

1321
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: haven't quite welled up since I This was a This

1322
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: was a moderate, like a minor well up. It wasn't

1323
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: on par with the super with the Superman well up,

1324
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: but that feeling of like, you know, I think a

1325
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: lot about having kids now of my own. I think

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: a lot about what the best way is of encouraging

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: them and of giving them compliments for when they work

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: really hard, Like I naturally have a tendency to say

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01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: good job about just about everything, and then I realized, like,

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: that isn't actually helpful. What's really helpful, yeah, is is

1331
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: when he when I can tell that he's really worked

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01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 1: at something, being like, wow, I can see how hard

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: you worked at that, And so I try to be

1334
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: very aware of that language that I use in what

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: I give him compliments on and so um, seeing it

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Speaker 1: happen with Poenie in this place and imagining, like knowing

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 1: the kind of pride you get when you've done something

1338
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: and you've achieved something, it just made it. Yeah, it

1339
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: made me well up thinking that that Peoenie gave this

1340
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: boy the truthfully is really hard on, Like, he's really

1341
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: hard on Corey, and for valid reason. You know, Corey

1342
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: is you know, not necessarily the greatest student or whatever.

1343
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: He's constantly coming up with issues. But seeing him go

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01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: out of his way to do the opposite, to really

1345
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: drive home the point that he is smart and that

1346
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: his effort is worth something and that he's proud of

1347
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: him is what made me well up. Is Like, you

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: made Phoenie proud, And don't we all want that feeling

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: of making Phoenie proud. Well, there is that kind of

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: that kind of realization with Phoenie that whether it's compliments

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01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, or education or learning, you have

1352
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: to earn it. You always have to earn it with him,

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: and I liked that That's kind of how we felt.

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: It sounds so strange, but people always ask like, we're

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: William Daniels and Mr Feenie similar And I always felt

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: that way with Bill when it came to compliments with

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: him about acting or our conduct on the set, I

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01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: felt like I had to earn it, and I liked that.

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: I liked feeling like I wanted to earn his respect,

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: and I feel like I did eventually. But that's what

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01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: I felt like that that this moment with Phoenie was like,

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: look what you earned, Like you did this, you studied,

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: you put in the time, and you earned the high five.

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really cool. Yeah. So the

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01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: tag is in the Matthews family living room. Corey is

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: watching a baseball game. The announcer says that the bat

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: girl has run onto the field with a protest banner,

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01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: and then we see them have again the discussion that's

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: in the geography tournament, and I couldn't really tell what

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: this What the joke was is the joke that even

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Speaker 1: the baseball announcer knows the answer to this question, and

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: like everyone knows that, how did he not know? I

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: think it's just that we, you know, because when we're

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: watching the be we're thinking, this is so obscure, this

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: is so the big joke is that it's not obscure.

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: It's not And was this one of our Was this

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: our dialogue coach Christopher Kier's voice? He might have been

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: Chris Kayer, Chris, I was trying to listen to the

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: voice everything. Certainly wasn't one of our writers, because I

1380
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, who is this? Is this? Minnell is

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01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: that I don't think it was one of our one

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 1: of our writers. But I remember these lines because we

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: we said these as jokes forever. This was very much

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: an inside joke. I think it might have tend our

1385
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: dialogue coach Chris kay was at the time. He had retired, obviously,

1386
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: but at the time was the youngest ring master in

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: history of the Ringling Barn and Bailey Circus ringmaster at

1388
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: like the age of twenty three years. We should get

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: Chris Kayer on the show. He's still good friends with

1390
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: Dedy I believe or somebody. He's still good friends with somebody.

1391
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: He's also friends with Tony O'Dell, who is a dialogue

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01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: coach in My Great Guy. He was always very nice

1393
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: and very helpful, so it was great. Yeah, I think

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: we should Uh, I think we should try to get

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: him on the show. That would be great. Um. One

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Speaker 1: of my favorite lines, just to recap in this episode,

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: One of my favorite lines is when uh, we've seen

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01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: Mincus in the Big Yellow chants and uh, Mr Feenie says,

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: sometimes a man doesn't know another Yeah, sometimes the Sometimes

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: a man doesn't know a struggle until he's walked a

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: mile in another man's humongous pants. Humongouss I thought. It

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01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: just made me laugh. And his delivery, ever, it was

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: so great. It's one of my favorites. So uh, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us for this episode. Next week, we

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: are going to be recapping season one episode six, Boys

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Speaker 1: to Mensa, which originally aired on October and we have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest. We will be talking to someone

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: who sat in the death chair. We will be talking

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,879
Speaker 1: to Marty York. We're very excited to have him. UM.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to catching up with him and also known

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Speaker 1: for the sand Lot. Yeah, we have some sand Lot

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: fans out there. Oh yes, how could you forget the

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01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: sand Lot? Yeah? So, but we have we have a

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: someone who actually sat in the death chair. We've done

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01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: so much talking about it. We'll get to hear what

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: that experience, what that experience was like. Um So follow

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Speaker 1: Also check out our website, pod meets World Show dot com.

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Speaker 1: We got merch so many shirts, too much shirts, one

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Speaker 1: might too much. And yeah, I had a really good

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Speaker 1: time with you guys as always, Yeah me too. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna go hang out in my tiny little bed now,

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Speaker 1: in my tiny little room that hasn't changed since night

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Speaker 1: eighty four. That's all right. We love you all, pod dismissed.

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