WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2024 Miami Dolphins Initial 53 Man Roster 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.880 To on the move, Darlan Deep Speedless past Hellas from 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:10.360 the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:18.400 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my avans 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.360 in the playoffs. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.440 What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.160 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.919 we have an initial fifty three man roster. Will tell 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.479 you who's on that, some surprise moves, and then a 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.519 bunch of soundbites with pertinent topics that I want to 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.400 discuss with each and every single one of those topics. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.839 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:47.320 This is. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:53.600 The Draft Time Podcast, Cosy Daffy and we have the. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.520 Official Miami Dolphins fifty three man roster right here for you. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.440 It went out on social around five twenty five. So 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.240 quarterbacks to a tongue of Ba Loa and Skyler Thompson. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.880 The running backs, there are five if you include alec 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.759 Ingole the fullback. I always do most an eight Chan, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.280 Jeff Wilson and Jalen Wright. I think Jeff Wilson over 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.720 Chris Brooks was the one in that room that maybe 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.120 surprise some folks. We know that hefe had a really 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.920 good camp in preseason. He always runs hard. He had 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.360 a critical late game conversion in that Dallas game that 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.840 clinched the playoffs. The coaching staff loves him. He knows 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.400 the offense. I don't think it's that big of a surprise, 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.240 although I did think it was closer than maybe the 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:30.679 team thought. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:31.000 I don't know. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.520 I thought Chris Books was pretty good and had a 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.839 chance to stick around. The biggest surprise just four wide 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:40.399 receivers Braxon Burrio, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle and ma League Washington. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.080 I would strongly believe there's going to be another person 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.040 add to that room. I doubt you go into a 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.920 game day with just four receivers on your roster, although 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.760 I will talk about some tomorrow's podcasts as well. Do 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.640 not get it twisted. This is still a twelve and 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.080 twenty one heavy personnel team. John hus Smith and Julian 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.560 Hill's emergence in addition to the roster should say with 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:06.240 Smith's case and Hill's emergence would only empower the concept 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.119 they want to run more twenty one and twelve personnel. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.120 Two tight ends or two backs or twenty two personnel, 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.639 which I think you can do a lot of that 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.960 with a Chan as a running back and Raheem Moster 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.519 as a running back. That gives you two backs and 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.480 then the two tight ends, and then a Chan becomes 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.840 a receiver, and all of a sudden you're in quasi 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.680 eleven personnel and a Chan is one of the receivers. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.120 Like that is a dynamic weapon, a dynamic threat you 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.560 have as the option there. And of course the sobering 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.079 news on the day is that Odell Beckham Junior goes 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.600 to the physically unable to perform list, or rather stays there, 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.959 and he will then miss the first four games as 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:43.000 he Chubb Good and Isaiah Win almost forgot that last one. There, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:44.880 so a pretty good crop of players there on PUP. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.960 Of course, with OBJ going to the PUP, we kind 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.720 of were hoping otherwise. I got to take the l 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.480 on that one. Thought he'd be back for opening day. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.120 But now I assume as he starts to ramp up 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.000 and he looked like he was getting closer to me, 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:00.959 I would assume that he would be getting some reps 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.480 and spend this next month getting himself ready for the 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.000 stretch run where you can kind of start to maybe 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.519 roll out more of a traditional eleven personnel package with 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.240 Beckham and kind of get it at its peak at 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:12.919 the right time of year, if that makes sense. But 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.080 I think the Dolphins are a embarrassment of riches offensively, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.160 even with the four receivers in the room. Obviously you're 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.400 going to see a lot of hill and waddle in 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.960 that package there when it comes to those those twenty 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.920 those twelve and twenty one personnel sets. So that's kind 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:28.320 of the big shock of the day with a pup 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.280 and the short receiver list of Obviously Eric Azukama a 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.079 guy that I thought would would make it through and 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.040 make it on because of the way he performed in games, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.320 but he was a wave today, so we'll see what 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.040 happens with him going forward. Obviously, this roster is, you know, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.280 gonna change and shift a lot over the next couple 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.800 of days and weeks. At tight end, I mentioned Johnny 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.160 and Julian and then Durham, Smyth and Tanner. Connor sticks 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.160 On is the fourth further evidence of what I just 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.160 talked about with two tight ends, and obviously Connor gives 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.440 you some special teams relief as well. In terms of 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.920 how he can go cover kicks and be a big 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.080 critical part of your third phase on the offensive line. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:03:59.720 There's ten of them. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.080 I think the surprise here is Andrew Meyer, the UDFA 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.480 rookie center that I was very impressed by all preseason, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.600 all camp Long sticks with the roster after really showing 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.720 good awareness and ability to hit combo blocks inside and 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.760 be kind of a helper and pass protection, which is 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.000 usually what a center does. And then the rest of 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.880 the guys were pretty obvious to Ron Armstead, Austin Jackson, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.520 Kendall Lamb, and Patrick Paul are the tackles. And then 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.960 you have four more guys on the interior, or rather 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.279 five guys. Aaron Brewer, you're hopefully opening day starting center. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.920 I think he's training that direction. Robert Jones and leam 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.239 Meikenberger the guards, and then Lester Cotton and Jack Driscoll 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:33.320 round out that unit. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.400 Onto the defense. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.720 Your defensive lineman Kalais Campbell, DeShawn hand, Benito Jones, Brandon Peeley, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.880 and Zach Seeler. Jonathan Harris I thought would stick around. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.400 Neville Gallimore I thought would too. I think both those 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.080 guys could be in contention for post week one re 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.640 signings or reacquisitions here, as your salary becomes only twenty 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.040 five percent of the guarantee that you were guaranteed when 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.320 you were guaranteed it at that point, so that could 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.320 be an option there By the Dolphins, you go with 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.919 a couple of bigger guys in Benito and Brandon Peely. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.120 I thought that it'd be kind of one of the 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.480 other with those two guys. They both stick around and 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.400 will both play plenty of snaps on the nose. I 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.280 imagine with Campbell and Steeler kind of working hand in 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.960 hand as the primary guys otherwise, and then of course 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.760 Deshan hand being kind of the primary backup across all 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.599 those spots at linebacker. And this is with the edge 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.600 group also added in here, You've got no real surprises. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.640 I don't think you got Emmanuel Ogba and Jalen Phillips 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.840 off the edge, along with Quinton Bell and the two 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.240 rookies Chop Robinson and Mohammed Kamara, and then your off 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.719 ball linebackers David Long, Jordan Brooks, Anthony Walker, Junior, Duke 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.280 Riley and Channing tendall round out that group. I thought 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.120 Curtis Bolton was a guy that maybe had a shot 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.360 to stick around, got caught in the numbers game though, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.760 because this room was, I mean, the linebacker group was 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.280 always maybe even too deep for changing Tendall. But I 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.839 think he sneaks himself on there because of special team's value, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.240 and what I talked about previously was just go find ball, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.160 hit ball in sub package. Looks if we get to 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.240 that position at cornerback, you've got six Storm Duck the 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.600 UDFA sticks. Isaiah Johnson was a guy I thought had 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.560 a chance as well, but Duck was really good all 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.320 camp long, punctuated with us two picks in the practice 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.000 up in Tampa Bay, Ethan Bonner cater Co who kind 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.120 of round out the group with Siran Neil who has 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.680 extreme special teams value there, and obviously the top two 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.920 dogs there Jalen Ramsey and Kendall Fuller, and then five 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:28.200 safeties Javon Holland, Marcus May and Jordan Poyer with Elijah 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.320 Campbell and Patrick mc morris. After a really good preseason, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.520 gets on the opening day roster. And that's great news 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.120 because I thought maybe he would be injured for longer 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.440 than that. He is not in fact injured. He is 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.200 on the fifty three man roster as of this taping, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.680 Specialist Blake Ferguson was released from the team. I don't 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.520 know any information about that, but that was kind of 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.919 a shock as well. We have some other just factoids 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.240 here to add on before we get out of here 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.000 or move to the next segment, which, by the way, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.760 you're gonna hear a microphone change, so if you hear 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.760 a different scenartio, I do apologize for that. One was 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.160 taped in one location, one at the other location and 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.840 didn't have time to uh or didn't have the same 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.600 microphone to you, So I talked about OBJ on pup. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.320 We also get Cam Smith and River Craycraft to the 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.080 injured reserve to return doesignation to return. Those guys will 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:13.840 have to miss at least three games and they can 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.960 return after those injuries. So that is the initial roster. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.560 Let's close up this first segment here with some sound 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.200 from head coach Mike McDaniel, who was asked point blank, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.720 what are you looking for in a quarterback? 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.800 For quarterbacks that's important, uh to the to the way 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.040 we play is is their accuracy and ball placement. For sure, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.280 there's a command of a of a huddle that you know, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.880 your teammates have to believe that you're the guy that 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.000 that can facilitate the offense and orchestrate it and make 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.360 make the decisions necessary for the team to be successful. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.960 And then one one finer layer, uh that that I'm 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:57.000 looking for is mechanically is the quarterback. Is a quarterback 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.840 able to do it? There there's a specific ability to 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.200 be able to throw, you know, with a with a 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.119 base and be able to throw in a phone booth. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:12.440 That is a skill that not everybody has and you 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.200 have to be adapt to that in the National Football 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.800 League because of the pass rush as well as you know, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.560 really really hone in on quarterbacks that there's a skill 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.640 you know to throw a ball to someone there's and 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.760 then how accurate can you be? And then another level 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:37.760 is can you look at defenders and see defenders and 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.160 still throw to moving targets? So can you see do 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.280 you have to see only your offensive player to make 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:50.280 a throw or can you see the defense for reasons 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.600 of throwing into windows? Anticipation and then as well as 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.800 zone manipulation. So boom, I was fired out. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.400 Man and didn't he basically describe to a tongue of 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.240 iiloa in that answer, which totally tracks right, why would 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.280 you do anything else in that spot? But I do 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.800 think that there was some nuance in this answer if 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.040 you're looking for it. The ability to throw from a 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.480 phone booth is this natural arm pliability that I always 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.119 look for and something that I don't think is tangible 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.559 unless maybe you've done that or you know what that 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.640 looks like or feels like. And look, Tua isn't the 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.360 most talented arm in the league. I don't think even 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.240 his biggest supporter would sell you on that. But the 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.240 ability to get the ball up and down, not in 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.839 golf but in football is a unique skill that I 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:45.040 think people tend to sleep on where from whatever type 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.720 of footwork, whatever type of position your body, your hips, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.839 your shoulders, your feet are in, you can quickly get 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.600 to your motion and get through that motion and release 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.400 the ball on target accurately. Right, And to that end 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.319 about the quick release, and my goodness, I did not 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.040 realize that the comment that to A made was going 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:06.600 to go over the way it did. Maybe that's that's 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.000 on me for not understanding the social landscape for this 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.400 fan base right now, But I mean that comment was 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.439 clearly very very clearly directed towards the concept of like 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.720 this is why we don't, you know, prioritize certain positions 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.240 and oh man, I'm getting so tired of this argument. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.080 But anyway, let's let's go to this because I wanted 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:29.640 to talk about this. Did you guys see the comment 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.120 from Mike Golick Junior, What a what a weirdo right, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.720 trying to infer that Tua was like talking negatively about 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:37.600 his teammates. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.040 That is not at all what he was saying. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.120 He was exactly He was telling you exactly what I 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.520 keep telling you, and that Yeah, this system utilizes that 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.079 release and minimizes a number of true drop back sets 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.480 we have to have because every single offensive line in 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.120 the National Football League, every single week, in terms of 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:59.000 a matchup perspective, is outmatched one on one across the board, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.439 defense line versus offensive line. It's the best athletes on 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.920 the field versus probably the worst athletes in the field. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.719 You are outmatched every single time. And that's not just 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.800 me saying that's all the coaches that have operated in 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.960 the system, going back to Alex Gibbs and freaking Mike 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.839 Shanahan in the early two thousands and nineties. More on 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.360 that later on, But the Mike Goullet comment talking about 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.800 to being slanderous to his own offensive line just out 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.000 of left field. And I wanted to tell this story 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.600 because there was a tweet that Mina Kimes had sent 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.599 back in twenty twenty one about I think it was 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.280 I think it was the possession in Chicago that resulted 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.319 in a touchdown in the preseason, and she was, you know, 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.640 nagging Austin Jackson's performance, and I was like, yeah, but 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.120 what was the result of that drive? Because she was 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.360 again talking about this offensive line. This is before the 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.720 system was what it was. This was when Tua's quickness 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.360 and the quick release, I should say, was the only 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.679 thing that was protecting the offensive line. Now you have 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.200 a system that builds around it intentionally, which again, if 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:00.679 you want to know more about that, I'm happy to 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.120 tell you guys. But I had said, what was the 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.920 result of that drive? Because you're sitting here negging the 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.280 offensive line, but what happened? 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:08.920 What was the result? 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.000 Same thing as like we can't play Leah Mikeenberg, but 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.319 like you had an eleven play drive that went for 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.000 a touchdown in the game this year too, like the 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.360 results are in this instance all that should matter, right, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.800 And Golic had jumped into that thread and was like saying, like, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.440 why are you derailing her thread talking about something separate. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:27.079 I'm like, I'm not. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.079 I'm telling you that the point is invalid because the 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.880 result was the best result a drive can have. And 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.599 then his reply to that was, whatever, man, I have 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.040 better things to do than to argue with you today. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.640 I'm like, you're the one that jumped in here, so 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.240 I just thought that was a good time to tell 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.240 that story, because what a weird dude. But the larger 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.360 point here, going back to the actual quote from Coach two, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.080 has a very very unique ability to get the ball 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.920 out on target from those precarious positions. Not the sliding, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.679 diving Patrick Mahomes throws that you see that make the 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.760 Madden Engine, but the ability to get the ball off 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.839 and on target from those awkward platforms. And that's the 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.760 biggest part of building around this quarterback and the system 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.400 of what it does right. It reduces this number of 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.640 true dropbacks, and with all the motion and wide zone 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.520 running with absolute screaming speed to the perimeter, you get 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.600 lateral displacement just through your scheme alone. I mean again, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.760 I've gone over this so many times, and if social 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.679 media is any indication it's not sticking for me. But 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.640 I still digress. I have more thoughts on this, and 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.360 I'm sure it'll come up again here very very soon. 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.959 But the part about seeing the field, I thought he 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.280 really articulated that very very well. I always go back 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.719 to the Josh McCown story on the Underdog podcast he 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.520 was doing when he was breaking down to a film 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.719 and he was talking about being in the quarterback room 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.880 with Kurt Warner and Kurt was like, just make that 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.880 throw and he's like, Kurt, you got to understand, I 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.640 don't see it the way you see it. You have 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.000 a special skill set, a Hall of Fame skill set, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.439 where you can see things before they happen, and that 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.319 is the talent to play quarterback position. I have no 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.400 follow ups on that. That is describing the nuance, the 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.240 intangible of the position that I think gets totally lost 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.760 in this current landscape of big arm, throw ball, far 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.079 run around fast, which time and time again we have 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.480 seen that if you can do that without the other stuff, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.360 you go the way of JaMarcus Russell. Now some guys 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.480 have both and it's fantastic. Josh Allen is that way 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.400 in some sense. He's not great at reading out the field, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.440 but he's pretty freaking good at it, and he has 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.480 the rarest of physical traits to go along with it, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:30.600 and that's why he's gonna be in the Hall of 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:31.440 Fame one day as well. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.200 That's my spield, that's my die tribe. Again. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.520 I'm happy to do in the offensive line talk here again. 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.160 Probably gonna do it on the Dive Bar podcast later tonight, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.520 so we'll stay tuned for that. Let's go ahead and 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.040 take our first break right there. Come back on the 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.360 other side, do some more soundbites and follow ups, including 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.200 coach McDaniel on the edge rookies that really popped this preseason. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.440 That's Next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:59.600 to you by Auto Nation. On Monday, head coach Mike 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.480 mcdanie connel was asked about the edge position and what 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.640 you saw from the two rookies to give you confidence 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.720 going forward that you're going to have enough with both 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.080 Bradley Chubb and Cam Good opening the season on the 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:12.520 physically unable to perform list. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.600 Let's go back to the head ball coach. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.920 Oh where there's adversity, there's an opportunity. I think we've 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:24.480 had much much talked about much. I mean, it's been 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.040 pretty obvious the injuries that we've gone through at that 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.880 particular position. So uh, you know, really at this stage, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.240 whether it's a it's a rookie or a young player 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.320 at that position, I know a lot more than I 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.160 usually would in terms of where they're at with their game. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.760 And they've got to learn a lot of things that 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:51.000 come with, you know, playing defense in in the NFL 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.720 and all the different layers that that that comes with that, 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.440 how how to learn the playbook. And I think the 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:03.200 biggest thing is that you want to see continued progression 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:08.440 without halt because there's so much ground. Again, and I've 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:13.480 seen a ton of that. There's been days that all 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.000 of our young guys have, you know, as they would say, 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:21.840 it not a good day, and those are irrelevant to 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.280 me if and only if things are approved upon. And 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.880 I've seen that that consistent progression with the whole group, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.480 And that's super important because that's what you end up 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.200 having to do during the season. During the season, you're 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.840 gonna do stuff well week one and you're gonna do 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:44.000 stuff poorly week one and guess what week two, you'll 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.160 in this case, you'll be will happen in just a 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.320 couple of days, and then you'll have to do that. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.760 And the idea is that in the National Football League, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.800 if you don't do something well, teams will take advantage 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.480 of it, and then especially if you put it on tape. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.680 So you have to get stuff fixed. Which is what's 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.320 been so monumental for watching these guys get these reps. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.560 Is I'm not just saying I need to see progression. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.080 I need to because the second we are able to 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.159 adjust something in your game or or identify that something 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.840 is lacking and needs improvement, you better you better fix it. Otherwise, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:31.199 you know, the whole defense will will feel Listen, if 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.840 you don't, if you're not on the backside run chasing appropriately, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.520 you'll h you'll turn the page and you'll get three 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:46.240 bootlegs on you, and then you play the next week. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.600 You got to show that you'll stop the boot with 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.119 that same guy or they're going to keep running it 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.960 and they'll test you early. That's just the nature of football. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:59.880 So all those guys, I'm happy with them because that's 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.399 what I'm evaluating. I already know what's coming, good and 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:09.600 bad plays regardless. How are you able to adjust your 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:16.840 game as the scheme necessitates each day? And that's what 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.400 I'm really pumped about. That group. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.680 Very long answered there, but I thought it was very 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.639 instructive and a good reason why the preseason still offers 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.439 to me a ton of value. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.000 Do we need three games? 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.359 Probably not, But I liked watching Patrick Paul pace the 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.320 Dolphins in offensive snaps more than anybody else got in 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.760 the entire preseason. Those one hundred plus reps that he got, 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.720 to me are going to be super valuable for him 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.560 to have on tape playing in this system, for him 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.880 to critique and really break down and take his game 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.080 to the next level. But back to the larger point here, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.359 just looking at the numbers and the production, you get 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.040 the sense they're going to have to count on these 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.800 two rookies early on from day one, and you probably 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.800 expected that with Chob Robinson, even if that means a 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.000 reduction in his role to more of a complimentary rusher, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.600 which I think was kind of the long term thought 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.920 as his rookie season. As it pertains to his rookie season, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.200 long term, you hope that he is a you know, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.359 eighty five percent snap taker who is a beast against 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.960 the running pass right and if he's not that this year, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.200 hopefully there's some growth that developed over the course of 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.480 the last month plus for him to be serviceable in 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.480 that regard and then to kind of be that third 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.240 down rusher and then hopefully when Bradley Chubb gets back 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.159 in JP's full strength, he can go into that complimentary 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.080 role where he's you know, nosebacker rushes or you know, 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.359 NASCAR package off the edge when when Phillips condenses inside 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.080 and picks off his man and he just runs with 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.320 full speech rate of the quarterback. And that's a great 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.920 problem to have. But I think the ability to get 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.960 that first drive against the Bucks on tape was so 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.359 valuable for Chopp because he got washed out a lot 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.000 of those plays. His pass rushes didn't go anywhere. Now 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.920 you have some tape to look at to say, where 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.840 can I be better in an actual game setting against 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:01.280 a top right tackle in Luke Goodeki, because we also 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.760 saw how impactful that he is as a rusher in 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.840 that game like today, like he's ready, He's already there 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.600 with a clear variety of moves that compliment one another 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.600 like his speed to power move is a wicked change 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.000 up to that pure burst he has off the edge 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:17.560 and will suit him well for a long time in 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.040