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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily sp in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go live on a picture perfect Thursday, a dis

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Speaker 1: should of Cleveland Brown's Daily merely Bow and the great z. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what a lot of places we could

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Speaker 1: start here. There's a lot of places. Only one place

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Speaker 1: we can start, Yeah, I mean, like either of the

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Speaker 1: things would be you decide how about that? Well, I

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Speaker 1: know where we have to start, and I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: to start, but also acknowledging that once we start this

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Speaker 1: it's only five minutes, which I'm cool with. Same, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing The only other thing we would do is what's

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Speaker 1: on the television, right, So why you want to set

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Speaker 1: that scene for people in case they are getting that

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Speaker 1: information from If you care, you know, if you care,

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Speaker 1: you know you Um, I've probably got I've got two

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Speaker 1: really good I can think of two. There's probably two

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Speaker 1: really good friends. And you are among these two who

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Speaker 1: top Gun is a seminal part of their childhood, beyond

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Speaker 1: even just oh it's a great movie. No like collecting

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Speaker 1: of airplanes infatuation with the Naval Academy reader of books

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Speaker 1: on planes, like just to completely immersion in, completely immersed

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Speaker 1: in the in the top, to tell you just how

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Speaker 1: correct you are about me in particular. So I wore

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Speaker 1: out two VHS tapes of that. I knew the I

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Speaker 1: knew every word by heart. I could do the entire

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Speaker 1: script by heart. I built a lot of models as

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Speaker 1: a kid. I had every plane that was in top gun.

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Speaker 1: So when I mean every plane, I had it one

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Speaker 1: with Mavericks decals and things, Iceman's decals and things. I

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Speaker 1: or whatever they were at the time. Big twenty nine

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, I can't remember. Maybe there really are. That

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Speaker 1: That could be wrong, but I thought that was right. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Big twenty is what it was in the movie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so then maybe they didn't want it to be like

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Speaker 1: exactly on or I could be wrong about that too. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: I knew everything made all the models. Halloween got a

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Speaker 1: jumpsuit from the Navy. My dad knew somebody who was

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Speaker 1: bomber jacket, I had the shades. I had books to

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Speaker 1: your point of that were like coffee table books, yea

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Speaker 1: thick that were every military plane ever. So like when

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Speaker 1: our fighter in World War Two. And the kids were like,

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Speaker 1: how do you know all these different planes? It's because

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Speaker 1: that's what I was into. As soon as I said,

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Speaker 1: like so it was seminar. I am so upset with

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Speaker 1: myself that I allowed I should have been selfish. I'm

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Speaker 1: have said, you know what, like we can't coordinate all

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Speaker 1: to every possible fan fiction website and had people come

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Speaker 1: up with dream moments, and they were like, we're just

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Speaker 1: did this. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, work up, and

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Speaker 1: Would you like it? A Penny Benjamin drop in and

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Connelly just crushes it, crushes it, rushes it and

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Speaker 1: like that bar she's driving a nine, nine eleven. That's

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Speaker 1: just perfect, beautiful, the whole thing it is just you

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Speaker 1: In the first movie, she's referenced twice. She's referenced by

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Speaker 1: You're Gonna fly Rubber Dog blank at of Hong Kong

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Speaker 1: at that time when Gook says, Goose says to Mav

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Speaker 1: references Penny Benjamin. But if you aren't. It's not it's

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Speaker 1: he want somebody won an oscar for it. It It might

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Speaker 1: that was it the lady singer? No, no, no no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: art and shaking up ms kay. I'm just like this

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Speaker 1: I mean like this is oh God that it happened.

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Speaker 1: Like it's so perfect. It was so perfect, even the

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Speaker 1: little stuff like I don't know if you, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: like an endgame spoiler. Alert, like Iron Man had to die,

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Speaker 1: this guy keep being allowed to do this stuff? Like

427
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Speaker 1: he keeps breaking all of our rules because he's the

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Speaker 1: only guy that's shot down three enemy plane. If you

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Speaker 1: don't have somebody pushing back, then you've got it. You

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Speaker 1: got nothing, of course, And it's by the way, but

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Speaker 1: I like an old, crusty guy pushing back. That's more

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Speaker 1: for me. I mean it was. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: pretty good at the when he just hops on the

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Speaker 1: track when he's given the speech about now, by the way,

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Speaker 1: what a cell point that was? So now instead of

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Speaker 1: two minutes, we're gonna do this in four acknowledging that's

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Speaker 1: a dog fight a lot. Are you gonna die? That's

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Speaker 1: the way that goes. And it's like, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: into fifteen right now, and we're all gonna watch it

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Speaker 1: in class. And I love the guy in the back

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Speaker 1: who's yeah like the other the other CEO type, Ye

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Speaker 1: Warlock was yeah, boy, hondo great. I mean, here's one

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Speaker 1: thing I don't want to give too much talk to this.

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Speaker 1: Can you survive? And uh a tent mock ten crash?

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Speaker 1: So here's my guests. We need prevates on that, of course.

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Speaker 1: Not do you know how fast mock tennis? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like seven thousand miles? An hour after I watched boys,

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Speaker 1: I started to get into this seven thousand, six hundred

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Speaker 1: seventy because the boys asked me when we were done watching, like, Dad,

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Speaker 1: what's the fastest anybody's ever phone the plane? Um, And

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Speaker 1: there's a NASA plane that goes like mock nine or

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Speaker 1: something like that, but it's under man So there's one

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Speaker 1: that's like somebody did like mock five. I think they

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Speaker 1: got to something, but it was a long ways from

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Speaker 1: mock ten point three. It's math it's literally half so

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Speaker 1: like there is a theory. Do you know this theory?

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Speaker 1: Did you stumble into this? Yesterday? I was focused on

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Speaker 1: how they did it all I wasn't and it's funny.

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Speaker 1: My kids were like, what is that plane? And at

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Speaker 1: first I looked at him, like, that's an SR seventy one,

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Speaker 1: and then I was like, it's not. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: a it must be a new SR seventy one. And

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Speaker 1: it turns out it was made just for the move.

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Speaker 1: It just was not a real plane. Alright, So we've

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Speaker 1: got no does he survive that? So look all right,

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Speaker 1: so Privates saying Prevates is on it. Once you reject, though,

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Speaker 1: you're not moving back ten by the time he at

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Speaker 1: the ground, he says, it's very fast. It depends on

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Speaker 1: the design of the cockpit. But also like he was

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Speaker 1: up there for a while, so like how like would

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Speaker 1: he be in Hong Kong? Okay, So here seven thousand,

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Speaker 1: So you're zipping hold on a second for ten minutes

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Speaker 1: real quick? Okay, so you want to call it ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: It felt like he was up there for ten minutes, right,

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Speaker 1: because he went from he was slowly going from It

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Speaker 1: was mock eight. By the way, he's only gone in

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Speaker 1: ten minutes. Well that's a hike from I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: where do you where are you landing? It looked like

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Speaker 1: it appeared to me by the way, he where where

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Speaker 1: did he take off from on the East coast somewhere? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he was no there in the member then the mobbi. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he's in California. It appeared that he landed like

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Speaker 1: Montana's when it felt like could have been, but then

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Speaker 1: he was back in front of Ed Harrison, felt like

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Speaker 1: the same day. No time, that was quick. Well listen,

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Speaker 1: if you're going just my one, that would only take

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Speaker 1: you know, a hundred minutes. So the thing I'm not,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to it's just sensea hold on, you

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Speaker 1: finally saw hold on. Let me do this for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what from the from the Mojave desert o

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Speaker 1: provis Montana, I said, it looked like Montana hobby desert

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Speaker 1: directions to get to like my guess you'd get to like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Anaconda, Montana. Let's just just I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: look up buildings just as a well it's not that's

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Speaker 1: not his mountainous so you do Bozeman, Bozeman. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: it just how happens to be eleven hundred mile little

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Speaker 1: two buildings, so okay, so similar, so similar, Yeah, Monte,

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Speaker 1: that's what it looked like to me, it felt like

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Speaker 1: my homelade when I recognize the people in there, where

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Speaker 1: are you from? Bozeman's only one, so a little bit

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Speaker 1: past both flag check. It does work. We're on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you saw it. I think that once he ejects,

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Speaker 1: it's the cockpit's gotta get out of the way quickly,

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Speaker 1: is what he's saying. You're ejecting, you're gonna have obviously

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Speaker 1: some you're flying with it for a while, but then

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Speaker 1: the parachute is gonna gage and you're gonna kind of

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Speaker 1: you're gonna slow down. And I think, almost like the cockpit,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to like the cockpit would have to be enclosed,

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Speaker 1: separate from the craft, like like a separate like it was.

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Speaker 1: It was almost protected from the rest of the craft.

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Speaker 1: What you saw, the fire going around, it's incredible. It

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Speaker 1: was perfect. It was perfect. It was perfect. It was perfect,

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Speaker 1: it was everything. It was like, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: could have I had one team. I wanted Hangman to

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Speaker 1: to disobey to go out there, because I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: Hangman's character. But other than that, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: that guy was perfect, I don't know that guy, so

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Speaker 1: him and Tell should be a star and something. Him

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Speaker 1: and Teller were both up for the rooster part. He's too,

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Speaker 1: he's they picked between the two of them, but he's Iceman.

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Speaker 1: He should have somehow been Iceman's kid, like I would

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Speaker 1: have believed that. It's amazing that a lot of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that we talked about, even like dog fight football,

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Speaker 1: which was insane game sense of defense at the same time,

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Speaker 1: no no idea, if this makes sense, nobody was playing defense,

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Speaker 1: and then a touchdown was just this way touchdowns who

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Speaker 1: was tackling? And yet somehow, anytime somebody got the ball,

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00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: the whole team tackled them. And I'm like, well, what

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Speaker 1: about the ball going that way? I couldn't make any

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Speaker 1: sense of that. Here's the thing that's most remarkable to

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Speaker 1: me about it. Other than everything we've already talked about,

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Speaker 1: most of this stuff that we're talking about could have

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Speaker 1: come across very corny. None of it was none. None

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Speaker 1: of it was. And I remember coming out of it

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Speaker 1: when I saw it in the Imax of Columbus. I

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Speaker 1: almost fought a kid, A sixteen year old kid said

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Speaker 1: it was it was I've never been in a fight.

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Speaker 1: I was almost fought a kid over. He said it

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Speaker 1: to his dad that it was corny and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to throw him through a window. I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: had I heard anything when I went down in the hall,

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Speaker 1: It was like pure joys. Like we walked out and

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Speaker 1: it was it was like a party. It was like

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Speaker 1: I walked into a party in the hallway outside of

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Speaker 1: the theater. Everybody's high five and people are firing. Previce

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Speaker 1: points out that he also would have had to walk

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Speaker 1: from the crash site, so that there were been a

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Speaker 1: lot more time it took before you're getting in front

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00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: of Ed Harris on that one. Um, it is a

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Speaker 1: mail bag addition of Cleveland Brown's daily tweet us the

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Speaker 1: questions to us at Brown's Underscore Daily, Um, we did

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Speaker 1: talk I don't know where this We talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Give the the Tyler Dragon thing on on which we

554
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Speaker 1: was just an incredible thing, the Dominicansoue stuff, which you

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Speaker 1: know it was quickly rebuffed by a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: But then then what one thing that we did say

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Speaker 1: is like, well, who knows, Like if you're in camp

558
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Speaker 1: and Sue's like, hey, i'd look like to play for you,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you take the call. You know, it's just

560
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Speaker 1: it's just not something you're pursuing. Sure, we're doing you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the things we're doing, GiB A we Gotta.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about your experience with the written word,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's very exciting. You know, we have

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Speaker 1: the tight end position uh preview coming up and I

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Speaker 1: got a two minute drill on that and Poisel wrote

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Speaker 1: an article on it. But we're also doing ten questions

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Speaker 1: for training camp and the first one was what is

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Speaker 1: the biggest position battle in camp? And for me, I

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Speaker 1: said defense clist it's the only starting spots on the

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Speaker 1: defense that are not locked in solidified. We'll also do

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Speaker 1: tend most intriguing team is that series kicks off today

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Speaker 1: with a look at the Arizona Cardinals. You have that

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Speaker 1: look forward to which is very very nice to mail bag.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned, go around the league. Maybe Bakers does

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Speaker 1: Brount ESPN Clue Cleveland, Brown's Daily on e s p

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Speaker 1: N Cleveland. It is it does kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: the next levels next. It feels like shows over go Watch,

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Speaker 1: stop Gun, What are we doing here? What else you

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Speaker 1: need to do here? Cam? It's not starting for we

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Speaker 1: let's go quickly around the league. Here my friend, did

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Speaker 1: you see this this morning with the Bengals are gonna

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Speaker 1: wear the White bank? Crushed it? It's yeah, crushed it

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Speaker 1: a plus, I mean, and the video was a plus,

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Speaker 1: like it was a nature guy totally. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 1: discovered the white Bengal. I mean, it was awesome and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be sick. I've always stopped. You and I

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Speaker 1: talked about this actually, I think a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: JOEBI is great for him. They got a lot of swag.

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Speaker 1: I mean they got because Jamar and Joe are pretty

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Speaker 1: swaggy and now mixing. Yeah, they got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: They're got go on. It's a great look. I did see. Um.

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Speaker 1: You and I have talked, I think the first time

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Speaker 1: the white helmet two luminaries on this show out loud.

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Speaker 1: It has to be. It's in our it's actually historically

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Speaker 1: in our catalog, so it's got to be only a

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Speaker 1: matter of time. I saw people, you know, people are

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Speaker 1: orange helmet, and it's just just not true. Otto worth

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Speaker 1: of white one and it would look sensational. I saw

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Speaker 1: it mocked up a little bit yesterday. Someone was doing

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Speaker 1: it on social and more for you Cleveland, I think

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Speaker 1: is who did they have it? Um? But the the seventies,

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Speaker 1: the white, that's it. It's perfect, really really quite strong there.

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Speaker 1: I'd like and I think this is a great thing

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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, unlike some are gonna be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: like the Texans red. I like it better than their

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Speaker 1: blue helmet, I really do. But it's okay, it doesn't

637
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Speaker 1: change anything. You're a big you lovel a white you do.

638
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I just love white helmets. I think you do incredible.

639
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Of course they should do the Texans uniform in Oiler's

640
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: colors with the white. That would be perfect. Um. You

641
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: know some teams I don't know that they would do anything.

642
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Although I could see, for example, I could see a

643
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Raiders white over their white top with the silver pants

644
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: could be a cool looking one like an black would

645
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: look probably black helmet would be black helmet bad with

646
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: the black top. That's a lot going on. That's a

647
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: Darth Vader look. And I would even like you wouldn't

648
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: like this. I would like this because you black, you

649
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: don't like as much on nontram. I don't like black

650
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: whether you don't have it in your color scheme. So

651
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the Niners color rush is a black Uni with just red.

652
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: If they had a matte black helmet with just the red,

653
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: have a black they don't have a black helmet. They

654
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: wear the gold helmet with that ridiculous Buckeys wear the

655
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: black helmet when they wear with the black unit. But

656
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: if they had the black helmet just the red, Yeah,

657
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: it would look awesome over that black Uni black and

658
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: red Union would be a cool look for them, and

659
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: it'd be a one off that's not a traditional look

660
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, I think you're right there. I think

661
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a mix of cream sickle and then

662
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: modern age, Like there's gonna be kind of the mix

663
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: and the Broncos gotta go to the blue. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't ever take you so long, Like, why wouldn't

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00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: you be ready to launch that? As soon as this

666
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: everyone knew this rule, the two lid rule was going

667
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: to go away. How are you not ready with that?

668
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Like you have a chance. But Russell Wilson and that

669
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: in the blue with doing what are you doing? And

670
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: I believe if I might be wrong about it, but

671
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I thought the Eagles in their history had a white

672
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: you see, that would be sweet, the white lid with

673
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: the green green yeah, feather yeah. I think the reason

674
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I like white for us so much on the lid

675
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: is is that one of my I mean just looking

676
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: at how clean all the the all white is so strong.

677
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: But it's that One of my favorite uniforms in all

678
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: the sports is the Texas uniform, the white Texas uniform.

679
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: It's so chrisp. What face mask would you put on

680
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: our white because I think traditionally it had a gray.

681
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: I would do white or gray. I mean Texas wears

682
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: a white helmet with a white faces looks awesome. I

683
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: liked when the browns these are all these are all

684
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: the white. I wish I wish we had Yeah, I

685
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: like the white face Burnie had that. Ye, that's a

686
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: really really strong look. Um. So the Bengals crushed that one.

687
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Looks like Apple is going to get into the streaming

688
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 1: rights business. Look like they're gonna win this in day

689
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: ticket three billion a year. So now you gotta have it,

690
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: you gotta. I mean I've got it because that's where

691
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: the fun show. I Why am I blanking on The

692
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Great Show with Sadakis? Oh yeah, So I always thought

693
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: you had to have Apple TV to have Apple TV,

694
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: but you don't. It's just an app. Okay, Yeah, I

695
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: think I maybe pay for it, but I don't even

696
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: know if I have it. I don't know if I've

697
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: even download. It's like a thousand streaming apps now, too many?

698
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: Too many? Yeah, anytime. It's funny, like when you were

699
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: talking about that show the offer, Like there's like six

700
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: shows on right now right the offer on Paramount Plus.

701
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: I watched that show We Own the City, which was sensational,

702
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: that was on HBO Max. Um, there's a show The

703
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: Old Man, which is supposed to be amazing with Jeff

704
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: Bridges on f X. There's a show called The Bear

705
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: on FX. It's getting a lot of attention. There's too much.

706
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: There's what's the one where you go in and like

707
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: your life is different in the office when you go back. Yeah,

708
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: the that's the apple and severance or something like. That's

709
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: too much. It's too much stuff. I don't even know

710
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: where to begin. I don't know where to begin with it.

711
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: It almost feels like I have a here, I have

712
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: burry on here, I bury in the offer both on here,

713
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: um Miles Teller more reason there you go. Uh. This

714
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: this plays into our our most interesting, most interesting team conversation,

715
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: which we'll get into at two o'clock. Jeff Darlington and

716
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: ESPN reports that talks between Kyler Murray and Arizona Cardinals

717
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: are going smoothly as results are very reasonable that they

718
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: could reach an agreement on a pack before veterans support

719
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: to Cardinals camp in July. Um. How could impact Lamar

720
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Jackson and his negotiations. It'll only impact it if it's

721
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: bigger than two thirty Like if Kyler's numbers two thirty five,

722
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: then Lamar's number becomes two thirty eight. That's it. That's

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00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: how it's different. Fine, that's that's the way that that's

724
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Speaker 1: gonna go. Um on on that side of things. De

725
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Sean was he at the Browns game or the Guards

726
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: game last night? I didn't like it? Yeah us, According

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: to his Instagram, Yeah yeah, and then he had set

728
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Speaker 1: a picture from the facility I think the day before.

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: That's always he's in the mix. I was thinking about

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00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: this on my way in here today because there was

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Speaker 1: a certain vehicle that pulled out. There was a U A,

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00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: a Dodge Duley crew cab, Duly pickup truck, so like

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Speaker 1: the no, we haven't, and it reminded me. I actually

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00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: started I actually started laughing. I I almost at the

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00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: point of tears of one of my favorite days that

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Speaker 1: we ever had here when you and I played guests

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Speaker 1: the car in the parking lot and nailed like we

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: did like ten and pretty nailed like of them, just

739
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: based on personality and what the choice to drive was.

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00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: That was a fun I was dying, including including the coach.

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: Crushed it. We crushed coach, quarterback, guard, d ND corner, receiver,

742
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Speaker 1: nailed it, nailed it all right, we uh, we'll we'll

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Speaker 1: get into some tight end conversation training camp position preview

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00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: coming up next years to Cleveland Browns Daily in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Brown's training camp. Position previews continue. Were

754
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: on the tight end position. Uh, this is a position

755
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: that's been changed a little bit. Obviously the chief now

756
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: forefront of this position. Harrison Bryant behind Miller for installed

757
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: behind that, and then there's some guys who are filling

758
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: out the roster. Marcus Santos Silva is a guy who

759
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: played some basketball Texas Tech. We talked to him before

760
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: you took your holiday. Um, but this is when I

761
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: think of this Po're on the in the flats, were

762
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: in the flats? Yeah, Um, this was This is one

763
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: of those positions that when I think of um Ascent

764
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: and I think of the fortunes have changed on it

765
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: for a particular person on this team. There is no

766
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: bigger case for this than David Dajoko. No, it's it's

767
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: his time, it's his year. And you know, David Dajoco

768
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: is a guy that I fully expect to have a

769
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: a big time season this year because now the opportunity

770
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: is there. Now it is his time to be the

771
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: premier tight end for this team, the unquestioned starter, the

772
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: guy who was going to get all of the targets,

773
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: the guy who was going to be featured and play

774
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think darn near close to of the

775
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: offensive snaps. You pay him that money because that's what

776
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: you expect from him. And so if you were, for example,

777
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: Bowl to just take last year, Chief averages first best

778
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: year of his career, six percent catch right, nine yards

779
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: per targets. So let's just say, and I don't think

780
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: it's unreasonable to say that the Chief he gets a

781
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: hundred targets this year. His career highs eighty eight targets

782
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: and in that season he had six nine yards four touchdowns.

783
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's unreasonable think that he gets a

784
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: hundred targets in our offense this year at all. So

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00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: at nine yards of target sixty seven point nine, he's

786
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna catch sixty eight balls for nine hundred yards, Okay,

787
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have eight touchdowns. You get nine yards

788
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: and eight touchdowns the Chief, he's a pro bowler. You're

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00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: feeling very good about what you've got from him, and

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00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable. Now it's also I think reasonable

791
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: to think that perhaps his efficiency, if we do get

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00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Deshaun Watson this year, will even improve

793
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: because of improved quarterback play. So the Chief is I

794
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: think a special talent. I think that he is biden

795
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: his time very well. He is being paid for what

796
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: the expectation is, not past performance, but what they know

797
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: his talent is, and what the opportunity that's gonna present,

798
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: it's off And so if I'm I'm expecting big things

799
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: out of David Njoku. And here's one thing I wanted

800
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: to throw out to our to our Browns fans that

801
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting last year in the four games,

802
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: there were only four of them. So we're doing a

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00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: bunch of extrapolating here, right, I just give you a

804
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: little extrapolation off the last year's efficiency numbers, all Right,

805
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: last year four games in which he had five or

806
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: more targets. Just four games and five or more targets,

807
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: that's not a lot, by the way, set sixteen games

808
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: of five targets, we'll do seventeens. What we play now,

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00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: seventeen games is eighty five targets on the season. If

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00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: you've got five targets a game for seven games, eighty five.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna even do more than that.

812
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: But last year, four games with five or more targets,

813
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: sixteen catches, two nine yards, two touchdowns. So that's basically

814
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: four catches, sixty five yards and a half a touchdown

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Speaker 1: a game, which gets us, by the way, well over

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00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: a thousand yards receiving on the season, the same eight

817
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: touchdowns at about sixty four catches sixty eight catches, which

818
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: was the number I was on. So I think that

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00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to really become a special player

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00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: and elite tight end and a breakout performer for the

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00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. So that's that's point A, right the Chief,

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00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: this is Chiefs time, this is Chief's offense. We are

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00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: expecting the Chief to be very productive in this. So

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. Now, the other side of it is

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: how is this offense in particular relative to the tight

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00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: end position, how is it likely to evolve? And so

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00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: my answer with our new quarterback situation is as follows.

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Speaker 1: We will not as we did one year ago. Last

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Speaker 1: year we led the league in snaps with three tight

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00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: ends on the field. Okay, I don't think we're gonna

831
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: be a three tight end type of a team. So

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00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: I think that gives us an opportunity this year to

833
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: be more of a two tight end team or even

834
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: more of an eleven personnel team, which is three receivers,

835
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: one tight end, one running back. But I do think

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00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: the Chief's gonna play a lot of the snaps, a

837
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: lot of the snaps, and so I like where we're at,

838
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: and people see, do you think that the approach to

839
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: the tight end position is different Watson Brissette? Like? Is it?

840
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: It's you? You would maybe think more tight ends with Brissette.

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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Might just guessing more with Brissette than Watson in terms

842
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: of playing multiple at the same time on the field,

843
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: whereas Watson feels like sometimes there won't be any and

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00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: most times just one. Just from a formation standpoint, I

845
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: bet we will be more with Brissette I think it'll

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00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: be more similar to what we did last year in

847
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: terms of more heavy, more ground focused play action. I

848
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: think with Watson, we are going to be a lot

849
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: of shotgun try to stop us. Yeah. I think with Brissette,

850
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissetts, a guy that you feel very good about,

851
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: is not going to necessarily right. He is not going

852
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: to maybe win you a lot of games, but he

853
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: is also not going to lose you a lot of games.

854
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: So that's where I think that you will see a

855
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: similar approach what we did last year, because if we

856
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of turnovers. Frankly last year, we

857
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: probably have an opportunity to have been a better football

858
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: team than we were. You just need to put you know,

859
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: maybe twenty points on the board and we're gonna be

860
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. So that's where I as I

861
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: look at it for the Browns, That's how I kind

862
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: of see it ultimately playing out in terms of, Okay,

863
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: if Watson's out there, we're gonna go eleven personnel, we're

864
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna spread people out, we're gonna throw the football, We're

865
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna do anything and everything offensively that we can think of.

866
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: There are no limitations on what we can do with Brissette,

867
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: you probably don't want to throw the ball forty five

868
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: times a game. That's just probably that's probably not what

869
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: you want to do. So with je Kobe Brissette will

870
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: probably look a little bit more similar to what we've

871
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: done the last two seasons. Do you think that this

872
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: room is as it will be by the time we

873
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: get to camp, Well, they add anybody to it, or

874
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: we we happy with where we are here. So I

875
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: think they're happy with Chief and Harrison Bryant. I think

876
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: Millard Forestall has a chance to play his way onto

877
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: this roster as the third tight end, and if he

878
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: plays well, then then I think he is He'll be

879
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: that third tight end. And I think Johnny Stanton has

880
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: a good shot to make it as the tight end

881
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: slash fullback, special teams guy, fourth guy. So much like

882
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: I think, will we make a movement receiver depends on

883
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz's fall or I would call it late summer.

884
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I think will we need feel the need to add

885
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: anybody tight end will depend a lot on what Millard

886
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: four Stall shows as we get into training camp. Man.

887
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: We've been waiting on the Chief man. This is aning

888
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: I think he could be just an absolute beast with

889
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: with de Shaun and this offense going forward, and and

890
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: of course we have there's there's you've got videos of

891
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: these going out, so all of this corresponding. UH. If

892
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: you want more information on the with the training camp

893
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: previews as we start to get you set for camp

894
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: here just a couple of weeks. A reminder it is

895
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: a mail bag Thursday edition of the program. Treatise your

896
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,400
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898
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Speaker 1: in the program, we will kick off our ten most

899
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: intriguing teams of the season with a look at the

900
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,800
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908
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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program, kicking off our ten most

909
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: interest intriguing teams for the season, and one we agreed

910
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: upon was the Arizona Cardinals for many, many reasons and

911
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: so forth in perspective, Howard Balls joining us now on

912
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: the hotline reporter and analysts covering the Cardinals for s

913
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: I and the Fan Nation page. Howard, thank you so

914
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: much for taking the time. Let's just start with I

915
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: think the reason we all find this so intriguing and

916
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that from thirty thou

917
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: feet or in this case, all the way in Cleveland

918
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: and perhaps around the NFL world, there's this what's really

919
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: going on between Kyler and the Cardinals. It's been kind

920
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: of an awkward off season? Is that the reality in

921
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: the Valley of the Sun so a certain degree, Yes,

922
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: I think that there's always those that kind of go

923
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: off the deep end with things like this, And certainly

924
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: early in the off season when everything started mushrooming a

925
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: little bit out of control, so to speak, with just

926
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: the way his agent was handling everything. It really has

927
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: calmed down since then. And while Murray wasn't president at

928
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: all the o t A S, he was there for

929
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: one week of the O t A s. He came

930
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: to the mini camp, and everything that Cardinals have said

931
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: since day one on this is that they're going to

932
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: commit to Hiler Murray, they commit to him being the

933
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: quarterback of the future, and that this contract would probably

934
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: get done sometime in the summer. Now, now we also

935
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of summer after the started

936
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: training camp, and so that's been the biggest question. Will

937
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: he get signed in time? And guys, you know, there's

938
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: always those people say, well, if you're gonna do a contract,

939
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: why did you get it done already? This could have

940
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: been done a long time ago. Well, contracts like this,

941
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: especially especially hey, let's let's be honest right there in

942
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: your in your town. In the wake of the Deshaunt

943
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Watson contract, you know that agents are going to be

944
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: trying to use that as the model for other young quarterbacks.

945
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: And so we don't know what's going on with the negotiations.

946
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: There has been a report that they're going smoothly, and

947
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: I've always felt that, yeah, if you're gonna get him

948
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: signed in the summer, get it done before camp. So

949
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: there's not even a question of whether he's going to

950
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: be there or not now camp, of course is what

951
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: twelve days away for when the Cardinals veterans report, But

952
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: all indications are hasn't been anything negative said yet, and

953
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: so when that's the case and the agent hasn't spoken out,

954
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: then you cross your fingers and say you, I think

955
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: most expect this to get done, but there's always that

956
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: lingering suspicion of wondering, not only will it and then

957
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: what will it look like in terms of all that

958
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. And they wanted to get Kyler Murray in

959
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: the best possible spot, so they make a couple of

960
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: moves with their early picks in this draft. One goes

961
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: and and brings in his old teammate at Oklahoma Hollywood Brown.

962
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: Second round, they get Trey McBride. What do you kind

963
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: of make of what this offense can be this year?

964
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: And how does it avoid what seems to happen with

965
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in the second half of the season, where

966
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: there does seem to be a little bit of a

967
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: swoon compared to the way they start quickly, Well, it doesn't.

968
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be a little bit of a swoon.

969
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: There has been and there's been no question that that

970
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: has been an issue the last two years, especially last

971
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: season when they start off seven and oh and at

972
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: one point were ten two and then just struggled on

973
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: the stretch. And and of course everyone takes out the

974
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: tired old narrative about well, that's happened to Cliff Kingsbury

975
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: wherever he's been, when he was the head coach of

976
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: Texas Tech and now with the Cardinals. Well, it obviously

977
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: goes a lot deeper than that, especially when he considered

978
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: when he was the head coach of Texas Tech, yes

979
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: he did have Patrick Mahomes, but overall it wasn't that

980
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: good a team. And so you can you can, you know,

981
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: you can build up your record earlier in the season.

982
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Then you start playing the better teams in the conference

983
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: and you're going to lose those. But you know, they

984
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: had a lot of issues coming down the stretch last year.

985
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: Murray's injury was one of them. Injuries that that sideline

986
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: both running backs James Conner and Chase Edmonds at different

987
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: times times. Of course, J J. Watt Uh was injured

988
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: in the game where when they were undefeatd with when

989
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: they moved to seven and oh, and so the offensive

990
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: line broke. You know, it was kind of breaking down

991
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries, so there was a lot

992
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: of things that happened to them, and then DeAndre Hopkins

993
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: of course was hurt at the end of the season.

994
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: That's the biggest question right now, and what made the

995
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: deal for Hollywood Brown so important because I don't think

996
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: there'd be there's a lot of mixed feelings about this team,

997
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: not only in Arizona but nationally. I don't think there

998
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: would be very much hope at all, at least in

999
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: the first six games of the season if they hadn't

1000
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: gotten Brown and now and don't have DeAndre Hopkins for

1001
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: the for six games because of the suspension. But now

1002
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: they feel they can get they can get through that

1003
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: with Brown. With the addition as you mentioned with Ray McBride,

1004
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: that raised some eyebrows because they have Zach Ertz. But

1005
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Zach Errsus is going to be thirty two during the

1006
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: season and so McBride can certainly if he makes a

1007
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: quick adjustment, can help open things up for the rest

1008
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: of the rest of the offense. The biggest question now, guys,

1009
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: actually beyond Kyler Murray is more Rodney Hudson. The Cardinals

1010
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: traded a third round pick four in the off season.

1011
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: Last year, was a big part of that offensive line

1012
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: and although he did miss five games because of injuries

1013
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: in COVID and he hasn't been around at all in

1014
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: the offseason. Cliff Kingsbury termed it an unexcused absence when

1015
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: he wasn't at minicamp without explaining what's going on, just

1016
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: said we're working through some issues. And then the last

1017
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: couple of days there's been some weird things. I guess,

1018
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: so many weird things, guys happened on social media, but

1019
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: you know which which is which is what started the

1020
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: whole Kyler Murray deal. Two days ago, the Cardinals and

1021
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: their web on their Twitter Twitter account sent out happy

1022
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: birthday wishes to a third round pick my jis Sanders

1023
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: who they picked this year. Well, I guess what. It

1024
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: was Rodney Hudson's birthday also, and there were no birthday

1025
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: wishes to him. And and then yesterday they posted a

1026
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: photo that said sixty days till kickoff and had four

1027
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: offensive lineman pictured, including a newcomer Will Hernandez who they

1028
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: signed as a free agent who had been with the Giants,

1029
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: but Rodney Hudson wasn't in the photo, so everyone's wondering

1030
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: what's going went on here. There's been rumblings that he

1031
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: might retire, and so that would become a huge question

1032
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: if Rodn the husband, is not playing this year, what

1033
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: the Cardinals will do with that center position. It almost

1034
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: feels like their social media team is like leaning into

1035
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: all of this, like all off right, Like it kind

1036
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: of feels like they could Are they in on the joke? Well,

1037
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing you wonder. Is it a joke?

1038
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: And are they just thrown out there to just kind

1039
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: of kind of make everybody think or is there truly

1040
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: something to it? Yeah, that it could very well be,

1041
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: because you just never know these days. You'd think though,

1042
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: that if if everything was all well and good, then

1043
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: you think the team would announce it. But then again,

1044
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,959
Speaker 1: the Cardinals aren't the most forthright team when it comes

1045
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: to announcing things, so they're making everybody wait to see

1046
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: what happens when training camp starts. The only thing that

1047
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: makes you scratch your head is that if it if

1048
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: it's not a contract thing where maybe he wants more

1049
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: money or maybe the Cardinals wanting to take a little

1050
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: bit of a pay cut. So they can get a

1051
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: lot of these other deals done. If it is a

1052
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: guy contemplating retirement, then would you term that an unexcused

1053
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: absence from minicamp. Wouldn't you say that all the players

1054
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: working through some things and and so he had permission

1055
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: not to be here. You wouldn't. You wouldn't think he

1056
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: called on excused. If it was a guy contemplating the

1057
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: end of his career. He did turn thirty three the

1058
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: other day, So that that's the one thing that also

1059
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: just makes you makes you wonder and make you think.

1060
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: But like I said, nobody except Rodney Hudson and the

1061
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals right now. No, and who knows, maybe the Cardinals

1062
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: don't even know yet what he's gonna do totally. That'll

1063
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: be interesting to see, Howard. When you think about some

1064
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: young guys you drafted that I know that we both

1065
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: liked and got to see a lot of. One would

1066
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: be ron Dale Moore, who I thought had a very

1067
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: interesting rookie year, did not make the impact. I thought

1068
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: it felt like they really didn't even throw them the

1069
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: ball past the line of scrimmage ever. And then a

1070
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: guy we loved a couple of years ago, Isaiah Simmons,

1071
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: now going into his third season, Are you expecting more

1072
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: from those two guys this year? Absolutely? I think everybody is,

1073
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: and we know I know the Cardinals are, and it

1074
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: really is time for Simmons to take a big step

1075
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: and he was starting to take that step last season

1076
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: and was playing pretty good football. He kind of struggled

1077
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: a little bit down the stretch and he had his

1078
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: shoulder injury, so there was a lot of injuries this

1079
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: team had, you know, coming down the end of the season.

1080
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore is definitely a guy that really had a

1081
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: bunch of big plays and was a part of the

1082
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: offense early and then he wasn't as much of a

1083
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: part of it later. Then he got hurt and was

1084
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: banged up and and missed some games. But with with

1085
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: the loss of Christian Kirk the departure in free agency,

1086
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: they are expecting ron Dale the more Rondale Moore basically

1087
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: to take his spot in the slot and they have

1088
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: they have a lot of plans to use him a

1089
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: lot more of this season, so that that would be

1090
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: a big factor in that offense, especially earlier in the

1091
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: season when Hopkins is not available. How are the another

1092
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: big part of the intrigue around this as you look

1093
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: around the NFC and you see, okay, we got especially

1094
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: the NFC West. We have a new quarter back in

1095
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Russ is no longer in Seattle. It looks

1096
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: to us like they're kind of tanking and maybe draft

1097
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback next year at the top of the draft.

1098
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is in the a f C. You look

1099
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: around the the the NFC and you say to yourself, boys,

1100
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: it's it's open there for somebody to make a run

1101
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: at this thing. If not now for the Cardinals win.

1102
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Is there is there pressure to to get to the

1103
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: second round make a run at an NFC championship. Does

1104
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: it feel like there's that type of anticipation and pressure

1105
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: around the franchise. Well, there there are the There are

1106
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: the expectations, certainly for them to be better and and

1107
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: obviously to finish better than they did last season and

1108
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: take that step and and hope obviously as Hopkins comes

1109
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: back fine after missing that time, and and then it's

1110
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: a real jump start to the team. So yeah, there

1111
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: there are those expectations. They did give both Steve Kine,

1112
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: the general manager, and Cols Kingsbury contract extensions all the

1113
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: way Ton they announced that during the scouting combines. So

1114
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: it's it seems that I don't know if pressure is

1115
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: the right word, but expectations are certainly there. And you

1116
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: raise a great point about the NFC, because there's no

1117
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: question that the NFC doesn't have as many teams near

1118
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: in that top you know, the top let's say, first

1119
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: two tiers of the NFC that the a f C has,

1120
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: and so that it's a it's a great opportunity for them.

1121
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: But having said that, you get in the playoffs and

1122
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: those are still the best teams there, and you just

1123
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen, you know, in those games,

1124
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: because there still are you know, several really good teams

1125
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: in you know, in the in the conference. So but yeah,

1126
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: like I said, there are those expectations. You know, they're

1127
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: talking this whole well, you know, two years in a

1128
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: row now that the team, uh, you know, the team

1129
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl that was playing the one team

1130
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl was playing in its home stadium

1131
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers and the Rams the last two years,

1132
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: and so there are those people saying, well, let's make it,

1133
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: let's make it three in a row, because the super

1134
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: Bowl is here in Arizona next February. So I don't

1135
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: know that they have it takes to do that yet.

1136
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: They still have some other questions on defense depth in

1137
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: the secondary. Uh, they don't know who the pass rusher

1138
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: is going to be opposite Marcus Golden to fill a

1139
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: huge hole left by the departure of Chandler Jones. So obviously,

1140
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: like any team you know there, there's there's certain questions

1141
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: that they have, but that they definitely have the ability

1142
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: and if that offense, which has been so great for

1143
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: the first half of the last two seasons, can still

1144
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: play at that high level in the second half of

1145
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: the year and Murray stays healthy because the last two

1146
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: years he has not been healthy at the end of

1147
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: the season. Uh, that that becomes a big aspect of

1148
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: it in terms of he being able to do the

1149
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: things not only throwing the ball but running the ball

1150
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: that he does so well and makes it very difficult

1151
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: for other teams to defend. One of the best stories

1152
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year I thought was the resurgence

1153
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: of James Conner. We had seen him obviously, the Browns

1154
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: knew him well from his time with the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1155
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: and he goes and has an incredible season last year

1156
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns, if I'm not mistaken, certainly felt that

1157
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: way in fantasy football. He became a stud. Now Chase

1158
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Edmonds is gone, and I think, yeah, I'm looking the

1159
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: average a hundred eleven total yards and nearly two touchdowns

1160
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: a game in the six games without Edmunds, he's the guy.

1161
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Is that? Do you think last year was a fluke?

1162
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: Is this something that is sustainable where the touchdown numbers

1163
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: inflating things, or is this is James Conner now have

1164
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: a chance to be, you know, vault his name into

1165
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: those you know, the top twelve running backs in the league.

1166
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: I I think they have to find a guy to

1167
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: compliment him because I mentioned how there was injuries down

1168
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: the stretch and to both Edmunds and Connor at different times.

1169
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: And when you look at the numbers in the first

1170
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: ten or eleven game, maybe nine or ten games of

1171
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: the season when they were playing together, they shared snaps

1172
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: and it was a very productive sharing where they weren't

1173
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: asking too much of either guy. Then when the injuries hit,

1174
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: there were a couple of games, one where Edmunds had

1175
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: over of the snaps and one game where con had

1176
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: nine of the steps and that's just way too many,

1177
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: and that was leading to more injuries for both those guys,

1178
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: and and they were both banged up when they had

1179
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: that brutal playoff game and the loss to the Rams.

1180
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: So they need to find another guy to compliment him,

1181
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a very interesting training camp battle.

1182
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: They they have an you know, Benjamin entering his third year.

1183
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: They signed Darryl Williams in Kansas City, who has been

1184
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: a pretty productive, share the load type of running back,

1185
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: and they also drafted a guy in the sixth round,

1186
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: Kiante Ingram, who has some ability. So I think the

1187
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: key I think. I don't think it was a fluke

1188
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: what Connor did last year, but I think they've got

1189
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: to be careful in not overworking him. And and the

1190
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: touchdown and not only the touchdowns, and you're right, not

1191
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: only was a double digit, he had eighteen touchdowns, fifteen

1192
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: of them rushing. The biggest surprise to a lot of

1193
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: people was how well he did as a pass catcher,

1194
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: And of course that is big in that in that offense,

1195
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: and he showed himself very a depth there and had

1196
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: some big plays and as as a receiver, So that was.

1197
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: That was a big key in terms of what he did.

1198
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: And obviously they're gonna lean on him a lot, but

1199
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: you still don't want to overwork him. Like I said, however,

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01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: I get you out of here on a fun one

1201
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: at least for me. And I'm always curious about it.

1202
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: From from what I could tell, they are the last

1203
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: team in the league that is still using that mid

1204
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: two thousands Reebok piping template. And I'm always curious that

1205
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a new uniform out there. I've seen

1206
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: Kyler complain about it. Is there any movement to that?

1207
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: Is that something that people talk about out there? Oh? Yeah,

1208
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: fans talk about it all the time. Well maybe not

1209
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: all the time, but they talk about it frequently. Hey,

1210
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: when are they can do something about these uniforms? When

1211
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: is that going to happen? And the team doesn't comment

1212
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: on it, They haven't said, they haven't said anything about it.

1213
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: I know these things. Sometimes you have to let the

1214
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: league know, and you have to it has to be

1215
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: something like two years in advance before it can happen.

1216
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: So who knows when and if it will happen. But yeah,

1217
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean it, it's talked about and I don't know.

1218
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: You wonder if they're doing it, what they're waiting for.

1219
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: This might have been an interesting This might have been

1220
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: an interesting year to do it, with the Puper Bowl

1221
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: coming to Arizona. But I would think somewhorts down the

1222
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: line we will have that change, but who knows when

1223
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: that might be. What is your sense of what the

1224
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: people want? Do they want to go back to like

1225
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: the Neil Lomax Pat Tillman days, or they do they

1226
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: people want something completely new because there isn't I would,

1227
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: at least in my mind, there isn't a oh man,

1228
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals need to look like this the Arizona you know,

1229
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: it's a pretty basic jersey. Though that was that was

1230
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: pretty cool, and I think I think you hit on it.

1231
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: Though they might be saying, hey, we need a new look,

1232
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: but then saying, well, what will that be because you're

1233
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: always a little reticent. How will everybody take to it?

1234
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: And there's not that there's a discussion about doing something

1235
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: and changing, but there isn't that much at least consensus

1236
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: on what people think it should be. And so I

1237
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: think that's that's that's truly you know the big question

1238
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: about it, And you know they move slow on on things,

1239
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, certain times, and this is one that they

1240
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: obviously are and you know who knows behind the scenes

1241
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: what they're doing, because when you ask them about that,

1242
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: they just say, well, we're not talking about that, So

1243
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: you really can't get much information if they're even considering it. Howard,

1244
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. Really enjoyed the conversation.

1245
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: My pleasure. Guys, Take care. All right. That's Howard Balls,

1246
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: a reporter and analysts covering the Arizona Cardinals for s

1247
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: I Um, I mean, I think there's a couple of

1248
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: ways you could do it, but I think the notion

1249
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: that like, well, we'll just stay with this because this

1250
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: is not always they're dreadful. It's absurd that they would

1251
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: still do that. And they unlike some where it's like,

1252
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: well they have a Cadillac option, they don't. The flag

1253
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: Ones probably the best in their history, Yeah, you know,

1254
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're not even I don't know, are

1255
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: their cardinals in Arizona like they were the St. Louis Cardinals.

1256
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: So you're going for now you're talking complete rebrand. Now.

1257
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying do any of that. I'm just saying

1258
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: it's always been one of the more awkward brands, Like

1259
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: they went from air from St. Louis to Arizona and

1260
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: just kept it all the same without ever thinking, like

1261
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: what makes sense for for Phoenix. I also think it's

1262
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: always it's kind of crazy see that they always go

1263
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: with Arizona, Like why wouldn't they be Phoenix. I think

1264
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: it's a major city, So here's crazy that there was

1265
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: there was, I guess the debate. Normally they end up

1266
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: a lot of unique places ranked them or so in

1267
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. Also there was one that ranked them six,

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Speaker 1: which nobody quite understood. But I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: best I really don't know what the best Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: uniform is. I think it's the tilm and Jake the

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Speaker 1: Snake is probably the best one. Like they haven't all white.

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Speaker 1: That's probably the cleanest. Yeah, there's not much you can do,

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Speaker 1: like you're named after like a it's like a cute bird,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like there's not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot you can do here. Yeah, Like this is probably

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Speaker 1: the best of it, but it's really really basic. It

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Speaker 1: looks like a creative uniform. I mean it just looks

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Speaker 1: like it looks like something you'd see in the in

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Speaker 1: the era that it was played in. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just a very very basic uniform, you know, but it's

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Speaker 1: probably the best. There was a white one that had,

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Speaker 1: you know, had a bigger Arizona flag like on the sleeve,

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Speaker 1: but like, I don't know they got, but to have

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Speaker 1: Kyler and not take advantage of it as just silly.

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Speaker 1: Like you have one of the coolest young players in

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Speaker 1: the league, you are in one of the coolest cities

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Speaker 1: that anybody would want to live in, and you have

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Speaker 1: stuck with this this odd piping uniform for fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: way past the cell date on it. Um. All right,

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Speaker 1: there is still time to get your questions into gibby

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Speaker 1: hashtag as CBD Brown's Underscore Daily and we will answer

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Speaker 1: those coming up here in about ten e eleven minutes

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Speaker 1: from now. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily ones in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily on fifesp N Cleveland. M All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back into the program. Remember to get your mail

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Speaker 1: big questions in hashtag asked cb D. Tuesday, we did

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Speaker 1: the All NFL Under twenty five offensive team. The defensive

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Speaker 1: team dropped today. According to gibb, A Grant Newsom and

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Speaker 1: j ok are both second teamers. So it's not actually

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Speaker 1: all twenty five and under. It's actually it's not it's

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Speaker 1: under twenty five, which you should have said twenty four

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Speaker 1: and under gone, because that's that's gonna stand. It's just

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Speaker 1: so we know, and it's it's just silly. So he's

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Speaker 1: got he's got Newsom and j okay a second teamers.

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Speaker 1: What Gibbe goes No love for Delpot. I just think

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Speaker 1: we know more what delpot is the second half of

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Speaker 1: last season than everybody else. Grant Delpin. Yeah, we did

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Speaker 1: this yesterday from week twelve on last year. Number eight

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Speaker 1: graded safety overall at Pro Football Focus, Number three in coverage. Guys,

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Speaker 1: gonna be a start. He's gonna be on this list, Boom.

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Speaker 1: He's only twenty Three's in his third year in the

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Speaker 1: league and he's only twenty. Listen, don't tell anybody that

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Speaker 1: he's in this don't let's not talk about in a

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Speaker 1: third year because and one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: had to do for my new boss, APD your boss.

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Speaker 1: And well, do you say anybody if I ever write

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Speaker 1: an article whoever? You have a lot of bosses. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people around here right a line.

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Speaker 1: Uh that One of the questions was which second year

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Speaker 1: player do you think is gonna, like, you know, have

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Speaker 1: a breakout season, And obviously the easy answers are j

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Speaker 1: ok and Greg Newsom. I went with Delpa because in

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Speaker 1: my morationale, I know it's a third year, but it's

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Speaker 1: only second year playing, so he's a second year player

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Speaker 1: to me. Take some of that, but I went with that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be an absolute stud. I can't.

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Speaker 1: We loved him so much in the draft and his versatility.

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Speaker 1: He's a missile on the blitz, like you've seen pieces

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Speaker 1: of it all come together and it feels like it's

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Speaker 1: in play. We are so dynamic defensively in the back

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Speaker 1: seven with with Newsome and Denzel and j Okay and

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Speaker 1: Delpott and Johnson and even Ronnie in the mix. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is it's a they're gonna love the m Jamison kid.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna love this kid like there's a it

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Speaker 1: is fast. It is you get there with purpose, with

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Speaker 1: an attitude that the back seven is. And then if

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Speaker 1: the front is what it is with the back seven,

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Speaker 1: what what Andrew Burry has done here in short order

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Speaker 1: to the back seven of this defense is pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree anymore. And by the way, I already

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Speaker 1: have huge, huge, huge issue with this with this list

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Speaker 1: already just a massive issue already ahead. So as we

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Speaker 1: go through it, one of the things that where you

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Speaker 1: go and by the way, it's a pretty good team.

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Speaker 1: It's a team. It's pretty darn stout um. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that's pretty shocking to me, though, is when

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Speaker 1: you go into the linebacker position. And obviously do I

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Speaker 1: have any issues with Michael Parsons. Of course, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got Brian Burns. Here's what you're looking at. You

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Speaker 1: got Nick Bosa, Brian Burns. Again, where are the people

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Speaker 1: that just missed? They should be there, Jeffrey Simmons, Quinnin

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Speaker 1: Williams inside. By the way, we I remember talking about

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Speaker 1: how Jeffrey Simons is gonna be a total steel in

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Speaker 1: the draft, something that took the gamble. We were nailed

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Speaker 1: that one. Yep, ball won't spike itself. They go to linebackers.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons of course, Devin White, yep, knew that, YE

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Speaker 1: nailed it. These are all guys we talked about all

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Speaker 1: the time. Patrick Queen, No, he's been wildly disappointing. To

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Speaker 1: my shock, I thought he would be a nemesis of ours,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen. He was not considered by a lot of

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Speaker 1: people to be one of the worst linebackers in the league.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, if you were to go to Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus right now and you were to look at

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Speaker 1: the it looks like there are I'm gonna see if

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Speaker 1: I can get the final number. There are sixty linebackers

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Speaker 1: who played fifty percent of their team snaps last year.

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Speaker 1: He ranks forty nine out of sixty, and this guy

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Speaker 1: calls him, no, no, this guy has him on this list.

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Speaker 1: By the way, guess who ranked sixth overall, Jeremiah Wsu Corremoa.

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Speaker 1: So do not have Jeremiah Wsu Corromoa on this list

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Speaker 1: and they have this Patrick Queen on the list is insane.

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Speaker 1: What makes it even more insane. What makes it more

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Speaker 1: insane is that he says he had another solid season

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Speaker 1: in one where he played all seventeen games at a

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Speaker 1: team high ninety tackles career high ten tackles for loss.

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Speaker 1: And then Queen received a sixty five point nine pass

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Speaker 1: rushing grade from Pro Football Focus in a seventeen point

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Speaker 1: two pass rush win rate, which both ranked thirteenth THEMNG linebackers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna quote Pro Football Focus, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: ignore the fact that they think just taking every part

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Speaker 1: of linebacking play into consideration. This guy was fiftieth out

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Speaker 1: of the sixty linebackers who played snaps. A Woosu Cormoa

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Speaker 1: was six. By the way, Oh here's another one for you.

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Speaker 1: Osta Corbel has got a higher pass rush grade as well.

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Speaker 1: So the one stat that you tried to try to

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Speaker 1: cherry pick is that Queen had two sacks. It's he

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Speaker 1: goes rushing the quarterback on the rag. He's a mic linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Guess what. Jeremiah's core he had three sacks. This is

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Speaker 1: so right now to me, I see this, I bawl

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Speaker 1: it up. I said on fire and I throw it

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Speaker 1: in there. It's garbage. Do better this is. And it's

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Speaker 1: not even because he could have had any number of linebackers,

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Speaker 1: because it's not j okay, but picking Patrick Queen and

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: then involving profoball focus but ignoring everything else they say

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: about him is to me absolutely bonkers. That's it. Well said,

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Speaker 1: good job to you. As CBD. Coming up next, she

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Speaker 1: was to Clean the Browns Daily, Cleveland Brown's Daily, ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in Clearing the Browns Daily. Here. Hello,

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Speaker 1: gibe go boys. How are we doing? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man, I'm good. A little news as we

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Speaker 1: come out of the break here. Uh. Mitchell Schwartz, four

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Speaker 1: time All Pro pick, started his career here with the Browns. Uh,

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01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: ended it with the Chiefs. Announces his retirement from the

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: NFL nine year run. Yeah, and he has he had

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Speaker 1: back issues that have cost him kind of the last

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Speaker 1: two years. Mitchell Schwartz was phenomenal player. Uh, great guy

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Speaker 1: as well. And uh one art and I remember one

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Speaker 1: art and did the junior reporter low those many years

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: ago she got to interview Mitchell Schwartzen was very kind

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01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: to her and so great player, former Cal Berkeley Man's,

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Speaker 1: former second round pick of the Browns. And uh wish

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Speaker 1: him well. I think he'll do. And if he wants

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Speaker 1: to get into me like his brother and then he'll

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Speaker 1: do just fine with that. But a great career is

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Speaker 1: great player. Four time. You said four time All Pro.

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Speaker 1: That's legit. That's not a joke. It is it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Like you could argue twice in the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: We had the best offensive line in football two different

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Speaker 1: times with two almost entirely different units. Yes, correct, a

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Speaker 1: little open championship update. Not great for our boy Tiger.

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: It started off dreadful by the letter. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if you drive the ball into your own fairway, you

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: should not have to hit the ball out of a

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Speaker 1: divot ever, just in general, the Commissioner of Golf, that's

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Speaker 1: when we drive it into the only into the fairway,

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Speaker 1: like you don't want people lifting and placing it on

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Speaker 1: the rough fay. That's part of the penalty. Sorry, But

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Speaker 1: in the fairways if somebody hasn't well, the players don't

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Speaker 1: like they sand it, and they don't like that either

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Speaker 1: because then it's an inconsistent you can get. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to get a consistent strike. It can fluff a little

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Speaker 1: bit and you hit a little bit short, as we

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Speaker 1: saw with Tiger there. But if you drive the ball

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Speaker 1: into your own fairway, you should not ever have to

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Speaker 1: hit the ball out of a divot. You should be

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Speaker 1: able to take it around vot, put around the fairway

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Speaker 1: right next to the divot, right, and you should be

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Speaker 1: able to place it. It's in the fairway. You don't

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Speaker 1: need to drop it. Just notice like the incredible inconsistency,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I just see it at the places that

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: I've played with how to handle divot replacement in the

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01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: people want you to send it. Some people wanted to

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01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: pick it up and stomp it back in. Other people

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: want you to put it back in and then stand

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: around it like what is Some people want you to

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01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: do nothing, let it, let it go. I don't know

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01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: what is the what do you want? Pick up? Pick up?

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: Way to handle grass man? I don't know. One thing.

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: You got to repair your ball marks on the greens,

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: be a good steward of the course noticeable problem. Nobody

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01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: does it. I usually that's I do mine and another

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01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: always and honestly, if I'm playing with the boys, I

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01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: will do the entire green while there. I usually ended

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01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: monkeying around three or four a green. Yeah, like this

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: isn't hard to when I like get my pocket ready

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: to play, I got my tease, I got a ball marker,

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01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: and I've got my divot tool. Always yeah, and it's

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01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: such an easy thing. And by the way, so many

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: people don't know how to do it. How many people

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: you see stick that thing in and just pop all

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: the grass out, which is essentially killing it like it's

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01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: come on, man, this is It's easy. Everybody knows how push,

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01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: push it in, down, in and down solved. It takes

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: tap at ten seconds. Well, Tiger is plus six. The

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: appropriate winner is Rory. He is, he is has He's

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01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: been a golfing prodigy forever. He's he's reached the heights

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Speaker 1: of the game. It's been a while. It's open. He's

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Speaker 1: standing up for the virtues of the PGA Tour, in

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: golf in general, in the seventy two whole tournaments, the

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Speaker 1: no cut stuff. If there's ever a time for him

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Speaker 1: to win it, it is right now. I'd like him.

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Speaker 1: I would like him to win it. Of the other

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Speaker 1: guys near the lead, I always have had a soft

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: spot for Lee Westwood, always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

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01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: It was second last time I think that. It was

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: at St. Andrew's. Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing Lee Westwood

1477
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: because he's ever, he's he's in the greatest to never

1478
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: win a major conversation. It would be cool to see

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: him one one. Yeah, he's like a nicer better uh,

1480
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: Column Montgomery, much nicer, much nicer. In the battle between

1481
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: good and evil. It would be interesting on the final

1482
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: day of the Open to have Dustin Johnson who's four

1483
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: under and Roy McElroy who's six under currently shocked, although

1484
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: you can just what's cool about it though, is like

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01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: when you watch this, like a lot of them are

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01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: driving either driving the green or driving within sixty yards

1487
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: of the green. But then it's all of the shots

1488
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: that you've never seen him ever play that is interesting

1489
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: to me. Laurik how it chipped from twenty hit a

1490
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: chip instead of a put on the green on the green? Yeah, yeah, alright,

1491
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: time to get down to it. Mail Bag Thursday, tweet

1492
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: your questions to at Brown's Underscore daily using the hashtag

1493
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: ask c B d uh at usc Fred tweets at

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: the show keeping with the top gun mav mode today.

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: What would be the call sign you would give to

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: each other? And Gibby pilots do not name themselves. They

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: come from your squad mates, I mean yours, I don't

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: know give a I mean you would be bana banana? Fine? Amen?

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it'll only be one word, right, I

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: feel like you can't have like banana banana think of

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: it across the helmet. What that would look like? Banana

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01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: banana with a perfect banana yellow. Yeah, yellow helmet would

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01:16:54,520 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: be great. Is something about Gibby walking around in that

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: helmet that I can picture immediately That would be just amazing.

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: You would maybe be like an amazing big horn. You

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: can't have to It's one word is that. I don't know.

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01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: I would get it. Montana would work. Something Montana could

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: do that. I was thinking Montana for him, I mean,

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: going off of the totally breaking what I just yelled

1510
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: at you for. I would just call you prime rib

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: I like that. I feel like I do feel like

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01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: that when your middle name is dragging me, or like

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01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: I think it would be hard hard to not be dragon.

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01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah something and something like yeah, that would be

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01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: a good one. Uh. David Kurd tweets at the show.

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: So Paul Brown is the Cleveland Brown, Cincinnati Bengals, and

1517
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: Masslin Tigers. My question is with the Browns look good

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01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: with the white lid, orange jerseys and white pants. Look

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01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: somebody did this? Didn't somebody do this? Are you listening

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01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: to show as we think it would? We want? What

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: we want is the all white is the orange jerseys

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: that saying orange jersey? Look, this is this is what

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: I think this is where I am with us. I

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: think certain certain outfits, like the Cleveland Browns, there's a

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01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: way they ought to look right. You gotta look. There's

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01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: a way that if you're the Cleveland you gotta look

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01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: a certain way. You can't look like even an orange jersey.

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: To me, are we the Cleveland Oranges? Now? Where the

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01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns you wear a brown jersey, you wear a

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01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: white jersey, you wear an orange chat mostly but there's

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: a time and by the way, it's an incredibly rich

1532
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: a lot of winning in the time where they wore

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01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: the white helmet and a lot of iconic players wore

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01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: that helmet. That that would make a lot of sense.

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: So I think the all white would be strong. I

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: don't need an orange jersey. Uh casey k tweets at

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01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: the show'd be like old Oklahoma State lid orange positional

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: group battle. Do you think will be the most intriguing

1539
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,839
Speaker 1: during training camp? I believe you can find that on Cleland.

1540
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, give a get him right to

1541
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: Clean Browns dot com. I think it's the top story

1542
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: on there right now, so give it. You're on the

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01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: written word as well. I can't wait. I want to

1544
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: I can't wait to read this. I love that you're

1545
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: and it's unbelievable. Less is more with me. Let's see

1546
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: how okay? I see? Can't just like one sense? No,

1547
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: they said a hundred fifty words up over a hundred

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01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: fifty words, don't change. I liked it. We both did

1549
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: the same position, and I'm curious to see what yours

1550
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: is all questions. I love here's this, So here's here's

1551
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: my answer. I'll read. I'm gonna read both verbatim for

1552
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: the people. Don't read all of yours, yours like it's fine,

1553
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: we're doing radio great. We have other people with questions,

1554
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: all right, fine, get to them. But here's I'll read

1555
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: Gibbey's out loud. Then you can read mine if you

1556
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: want to take the time. Here's Gibbs. The position battle

1557
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching is a defensive tackle. It's a crowded room

1558
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,879
Speaker 1: with a lot of potential, and it's a very important

1559
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: room on what is a very talented defense. Can Jordan

1560
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: Elliott take the next step in year three and lead

1561
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: the room? Taven Bryan gets a new chance with the

1562
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: new team. What leapal Tommy Toky I make from year

1563
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: one to year two where does Sheldon Day fall into

1564
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: all of this? And maybe the biggest question, what kind

1565
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: of impact ken Ricky Perry on Winfrey have. Oh and

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01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: one other item to watch, could one of the edge

1567
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: rushers on this team move inside similar to what Tech

1568
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: McKinley did last season. A lot of questions and not

1569
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of answers as we get ready for camp.

1570
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: I love that that is the last line is a

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01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: walk off right there. I like that you would base it.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like what you did there, all questions,

1573
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: no analysis, just I'm this is I am curious about it.

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: What will happen? The only questions If I could nitpick

1575
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: one thing, it would you allow me so Tach would

1576
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: play on the outside and they would move either Miles

1577
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: or Clowney. I thought that might be the case, but

1578
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I do remember I thought Tech was inside

1579
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: too at some point, maybe a handful, but typically. But

1580
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: the point you're making here is incredibly valid that in

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: pass rushing situations we will in fact have three defensive

1582
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: ends on the field and one will be inside. That's

1583
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: very good. The only thing I would say is like,

1584
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,839
Speaker 1: we've kind of proven that this actually isn't that important

1585
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: of a position that's right, but the only if you

1586
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: were to look at this roster right now, like from

1587
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: our front officers perspective, what's the least important position on

1588
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: the football field. I think you'd say defensive defensive tackle. So,

1589
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: but if you're looking at our team right now, it

1590
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: is only it's the only starting position that's up for grabs.

1591
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: You can say, maybe Jacob Philips Anthony Walker Jr. At

1592
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: the mic linebacker is potentially up for grabs. Your corners

1593
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: are set, your safeties are set, your ends are set.

1594
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: So on defense, the only thing that is truly up

1595
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: for grab your will linebackers set. Your same linebacker set

1596
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: is are the defensive tackles. Offensively, here's five. Offensive linement

1597
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: are set. Your tight ends as set. Your wide receivers

1598
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: I think are set. I think it's gonna be Cooper

1599
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: down with people's Jones, and then Bell and Schwartz are

1600
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna mix into their packages. Your running backs are set.

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01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really the only one where you can't say,

1602
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: only definitively, here are the two guys that will line

1603
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: up for the first nap of the season. It's almost

1604
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: like we all need to just kind of because I

1605
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: think like sometimes we don't know how to deal with

1606
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 1: the team that's really good and loaded, which is awesome,

1607
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: but it's almost like, all right, what are the position battles? Well,

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01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: six years ago there were probably eight. You know there

1609
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: are battles. There aren't any. It's it's known, it used

1610
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: to be. You knew like Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, Mitchell Schwartz.

1611
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: We're starting Joe Hayden when we get that guy, he

1612
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: could start for us. That's over. Let's get Williams. That's done.

1613
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: It's not the receiver position battles. There's one Grickster tweets

1614
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: at the show outside of Mavericktop Gun. What's the best

1615
01:22:52,560 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: military movie you've seen? Pocalypse now? I mean the best

1616
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: military piece of entertainment I've ever seen. His Band of

1617
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: Brothers Saving Private Ryan? Saving Private Ryan was pretty good,

1618
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: but I always looked back more finally on Band of

1619
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: Brothers than saving Private Ryan. Trying to think it's an oldie,

1620
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: but my father one of my father's platoon. So if

1621
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: you're call, I'll go crazy. I'll get you one of

1622
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: my fall get Zulu was one of my favorite movies.

1623
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: I have great Michael Caine. It's about the Great Battle

1624
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: of the British against the Zulu warriors, John Wayne in

1625
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 1: that I don't think. I think Michael Caine was the

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: big he was the big get in that I have

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01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: seen this. I have my father with Michael Caine. Richard

1628
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: Burton Zulu nineteen sixty four British epic war film during

1629
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: the Battle of Rourke's Drift between the British Army and

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01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: the Zulus of January eighteen seventy nine. It shows how

1631
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty British shoulders, thirty of whom were

1632
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,959
Speaker 1: sick and wounded patients in a few old hospital, successfully

1633
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: held off a force of four thousand Zulu warriors. I

1634
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: watched that movie a lot as a child. Zero Dark

1635
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: thirty was awesome. Yeah, saving Private Ryan, I'm sorry. Black

1636
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: Hawkdown was also both very good film. David tweets at

1637
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: the show Sunday's National Ice Cream Day, Well, Nathan's a

1638
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: girl buy ice cream from an ice cream for a blizzard.

1639
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: I do enjoy the banana cream pie blizzard at DQ.

1640
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: It's so great. It's a fantastic. Back in the day

1641
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: when we would watch, when we would watch every wrestling

1642
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: paper view together, a big group of US and S

1643
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: was a part of that on for Sunday's. S would

1644
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: bring me over a banana cream pie dq blizzard. They

1645
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: travel incredibly well. It can be like a fifteen minute

1646
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: and you're fine. Well, he brought it from the Mayfield

1647
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: Road economy, as he would say, So it came more

1648
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: than fifteen. It was just fine that it was a delight.

1649
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: They are undefeated, the Blizzards undefeated. No one's ever had

1650
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: a bad blizzard. Yes, you have to be an idiot

1651
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: to screw up the blizzard. Alright, two questions about ninety

1652
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: seconds Ethan Twee. He took the show just one. Back

1653
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: to back super Bowls with the Browns and the thirty

1654
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: two man Man League and mad and twenty two? How

1655
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: do I how do you recommend I Saunter into the

1656
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: draft for men twenty three next year? Should I wear

1657
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: a cape? A crown? What jersey? Do I work? I

1658
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: think you need to find yourself a Rick Flair robe.

1659
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: He's retiring, You get that if not a macho man

1660
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: Randy Savage robe will do. And you strut in there

1661
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 1: and and frankly, the grace entrance I've ever made. I

1662
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: had George Mazzan and them as his father carrying the

1663
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: George above his head in front of us while I

1664
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: walked in in the macho man robe and and soon

1665
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: was in a fur coat. And when we get a

1666
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: tweet like this, I'm always reminded how different my life

1667
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: is than other people's. Like the idea that this guy

1668
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: could play a third with three or two other humans

1669
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: and play an entire league of Madden over the cloth

1670
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: sounds I just I don't know. There's zero chance. There's

1671
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: no chance that that's uh. Mark Wosnik one final one

1672
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:56,879
Speaker 1: just scored an orange Puma. Kevin Johnson D five jersey

1673
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: well done. If you got to pick one Browns game

1674
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: big jersey from the Years of Pain sixteen, what are

1675
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: you going with? Jersey color player haf in White whitef

1676
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: What I'd like is a custom one of one half

1677
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: in the seventy fifth anniversary. Has that been made No,

1678
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: I've asked for it. I asked Brad to do it

1679
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: because that's that's what I well, the haff should have that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they've given the hoff one. It's

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Speaker 1: one thing for you and I not to get hoodies,

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Speaker 1: it's another thing for the half. Well, he's gonna be

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01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: in town. We'll we'll make sure that happens, because that's

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Speaker 1: what I want. I want that one sign in front.

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Speaker 1: That's I want that. That would be amazing. I would

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01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: love Yeah, that's the great that would be. That's appropriate.

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01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: So much more to come. You listen to Clean the Browns,

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Speaker 1: Dailey and fifty Yes in Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily SPN Cleveland.

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01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: I was clear, completely unaware of that. I did not.

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Speaker 1: I did not. I saw none of that yesterday. So

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, quite all right, you're off. Yeah, first Friday

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01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: into a Friday for you. Yeah, beautiful, first Friday into

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01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: a Friday eve into a Friday. Beautiful. I had Maverick

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01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: on a first Friday. By the way, Patter, that's what

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like somebody was talking about how it was

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01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna run out, like they were gonna go to they're not.

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's three screens there, but you can't book.

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01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just the way that the theaters are.

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01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: You couldn't book beyond next Friday. I wonder if he'll

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01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: get a second run in IMAX. Please please, you need

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Speaker 1: to do it all right, let me write now, have

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01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: a great weekend, brother. Next level is next We're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily fifty, ESPN P you've been listening to

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