1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: This is the Jaguars Broadcast Week Interview Podcasts presented by 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: TIAA Bank, and it's Monday, March sixth. This is a 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: special NFL Scouting Combine edition. I'm JP Shadrick with the 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: best of the week from Indianapolis last week on Jags Radio, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, and our social channels Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and YouTube. Thanks for listening on Jaguars dot Com through 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: the podcast link at the top of the homepage, or 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: on the official Jaguars podcast network that's on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: or wherever you download pods. And of course we love feedback, 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: so leave us a comment and a five star rating. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: Big news from Monday. Wide receiver Calvin Ridley has been 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: reinstated by the NFL, and tight end Evan Ingraham reportedly 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: has been franchise sagged. More on both players and their 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: impact for the Jaguars moving ahead, coming up, Let's begin 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars brass at the combine last week. GM 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Trent Balky and head coach Doug Peterson spoke with the 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: met You Tuesday and then visited our set on Radio row. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Bulky shared his thoughts about the combine as a GM 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: and the moving of money to create salary cap space. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: What does the combine mean? Do you use a GM? 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of GM's aren't crazy about it 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: because it sort of sends guys up and down boards 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: that don't really exist, if you will. But how do 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: you assess the combine? What do you try to get 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: out of it? Well, you try to get as much 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: as you can, obviously, and you know, I think everybody 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: places a different importance on different things. You know, it 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: is what it is. You take the information and you 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: compile it with all the other information you got. And 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: we're a big film based evaluation evaluating systems, so you know, 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna take the film and look at the film 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: and then take all the other parts and kind of 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: piece it together with the film. But at the end 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: of the day, the film's what matters to us. You 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: guys really rise and fall here or not? Oh? I 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: think they do. Okay, let's be honest. I think that 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: through history, guys have come here moved up the ladder 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: quite a bit. And there's guys that have come here 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: and not done well and felling off a little bit. 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: But you know, you take it for what it's worth. 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've never put too much into it and 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: just try to use it as a tool, Trent. This 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: is also the time of year where business, you know, 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: there's plenty of business to attend to for the Jaguars 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: and going into the start of the league year salary 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: cap considerations. There's reports earlier this week that there's been 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: money moved around a few different contracts some of the 48 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: big names to create some space and they're still pending 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: free agents out there. So let's start with that part, 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: the last part of that equation. Everybody's worried, worried and 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: wondering about Evan Ingram and the right tackle Juwan Taylor. 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: What's the latest with those two, and I know there's 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks left to get something done. Well, 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: we just really begun the negotiating phase with both of them. 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: We've got with their agents, meeting with their agents today, 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: met with Juan's agent this morning, and we're just talking 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: through things. We got a window here before free agency 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: actually opens to try to close these deals. You know, 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: Doug and I have talked ownership, Shot and the three 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: of us have talked. Very important for us to keep 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: our core players together. But it's got to make sense 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: for both sides. It's got to be a win win, 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: and we've told that to the players. But we strongly 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: believe in keeping this group together and I think the 65 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: actions that we've taken over the last week, week and 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: a half are going to allow us to do that 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: or at least put our best foot forward. Do you 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: feel good about those actions? You've always got to balance 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: the now versus the future as a gym. You feel 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: good about where you've gotten the cap as you go 71 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: or as you approach to mark fifteenth. Yeah, we're in 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: good shape from a cap standpoint. You know, we met 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: with ownership, We reviewed the plan that we put out, 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff and the personnel staff have met 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks to really hammer out 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: what's best for us today and as we move into 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: the future. And really it's that collaboration, the willingness of 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: our ownership to step up and do what we needed 79 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: to do financially to make this this all come to fruition. 80 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: We still got a lot of work through. We got 81 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: to finish the race, if you will. So that's where 82 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: we're at right now. That's where it comes when you're 83 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: moving money back into the future. Ownership's got to be involved, right, 84 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: They've got to pull the trigger on that. Well, they 85 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: do they You know, this organization has never really pushed 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: money into the future. One of two teams that haven't 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: done that, and we're moving that direction. But you still 88 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: got to do it with respect to the dollar, right, 89 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: It's it's got to make sense. You don't want to 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: just go out there and make bad deals. And again, 91 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: I go back to win win. There's there's a there's 92 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: a win in it for both sides. You just got 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: to find out what that number is and what the 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: length of that contract is going to be. For head 95 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson, getting back in the office and reviewing 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: how the Jags made the playoff ron was key. When 97 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you get back in the office, how much do you 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: look back at what happened, especially in the second half 99 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: of the season, your self evaluation, self scout what stood 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: out in a good and maybe not so good way 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: about your team last season. You know, I think it's 102 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: it's definitely my job to look at kind of the 103 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: whole big picture, right from from as I say, soup 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: to nuts, right, I mean, it's it's it's everything, and uh, 105 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 1: how we started, how we finished right, and you always 106 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: want to be finishing faster and stronger at the end 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: of the year than and when you started. So for 108 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: me as the head coach, I think that's what I 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: have to I have to focus on and look at 110 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: as we're breaking down our schemes again right in the 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: off season, so all three phases, all the coordinators, coaches 112 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: are looking at schemes. How can we be better? How 113 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: can we be more efficient? Um? And and then you know, 114 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: for me personally, just how this young football team embraced 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the things that I was teaching them, you know what 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: I was kind of preaching in the team settings and 117 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: the team meetings. How we overcame some adversity. Um, we 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: had a bad, bad mid part of our season there 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: where we didn't win a game for five or six weeks. 120 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: And you know, but the guy has never wavered. And 121 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: and so that's the that's the part that that you know, 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: I think as we look ahead to twenty three that 123 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: we can really kind of hang our hats on, we 124 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: kind of focus on and um, you know, build upon 125 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: those even though we have to get better as a 126 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: football team, and we understand that. But a lot of 127 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot of positives. I know you didn't love October, 128 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: but yeah, but uh but in retrospect, could that be 129 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: a good thing for this team moving forward that it 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: it learned from that and learned how to withstand that 131 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: and showed that he could. I think I think it's great. 132 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: I do think that's something we can learn from it, 133 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: you know it. Other than the Detroit game, which was 134 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: a little bit later, we didn't get blown out of 135 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: those games. Those were like one score games. So there's 136 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: a lot of encouragement there. There's a lot of things 137 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: that if we just that is what I kept telling 138 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: our football teams. We just take care of these little 139 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: details and hang on to the football. You know, Let's 140 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: not make these types of mistakes. We've got to finish better. 141 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Whatever it was for that particular week, Let's clean that up, 142 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: and we're going to be fine as we moved down, 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: moved down to the schedule, you know, and and so 144 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: that that was a positive, and it's going to be 145 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a positive as we continue to build. The last time 146 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: we were sitting at this table, we were talking about 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: culture a lot this time last year, and it was 148 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: so important to build that even beyond the playoff run. 149 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I would think you've got to be thrilled with how 150 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: that sits right now and what you're able to get 151 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: down in that direction. I am thrilled. I'm happy of 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: where the where the team is, you know, not only 153 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: how we finished, but you know, we we've built that foundation, 154 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: that that culture foundation, you know, And I think I 155 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: think the past is behind us and and there's a 156 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: lot of exciting times and in front of us. And 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: and uh, we've got the right pieces. We got the 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: right leadership, you know, coaches, players, you know, front office 159 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: staff Trent Balky and his guys, um and and in 160 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: great ownership and shod that you know, being able to 161 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: give us the resources we need to continue the success 162 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: that we started this season. And um, you know, nothing 163 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: is I learned this a long long time ago. Nothing's 164 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna ever gonna be handed to us. We gotta go 165 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: out and earn it. You got to earn respect in 166 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: this league. And I think we're still trying to earn 167 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: that respect just a little bit. Moving on to Jags 168 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Drivetime Wednesday on Radio Row, NFL media columnist Judy Batista 169 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: discussed the Competition Committee conversation about some possible rule changes 170 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: earlier this week. You've been following the competition committee conversation. 171 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: The big votes come up from the owners at the 172 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: annual meeting later in March. Of course, that's down the 173 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: line in Arizona, John, I think you'll be there for 174 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: that for Jaguars dot Com. But you know, it's a 175 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: lot of quarterback centric things, as is the case the NFL. 176 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Let's start with this push play on the sneak. I 177 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: mean I saw this in a Penn State game this 178 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: year Perdue Penn State up the road here at West Lafayette, 179 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: and they wind up in the T formation and three 180 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: guys pushed them into the end zone touchdown. And we 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: started seeing that more and more in the NFL. The 182 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Eagles especially were well known for that. There's a little 183 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: bit of uneasiness with that because how do you defend it? 184 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: And that's got to be part of the conversation. Well, 185 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: I think there's an uneasiness just on an aesthetic level, 186 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: like this doesn't look very like. This looks like a 187 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: rugby player, right, like, this doesn't really look like the NFL. 188 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: And then there is an uneasiness, first of all, on 189 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: the injury front, like this can't be good. You know 190 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: that defenses are going to go to school this offseason 191 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: on how to stop it, and I mean, let's face it, 192 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: the way to stop it is going to be like 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: you put your defensive tackles in there tight and you 194 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: have your linebackers push against yikes. So you're going to 195 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: have the most important member of the franchise sandwiched between 196 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: light you know, getting pushed on both sides. I don't 197 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to outlaw it, though, 198 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: because I think there is a feeling of like, well, 199 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: stop it. As soon as a defense stops it, it 200 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: all out right, and then they will come up with 201 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: other things to do. I know, offensive coaches don't want 202 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: to lose the play because they think you can do 203 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: other stuff out of that formation. You sort of show 204 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: that and then pitch it maybe whatever you're gonna do 205 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: the playoff, right. I don't know if they will, but 206 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean there's certainly a lot of conversation around. I 207 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: didn't cover this, but back in the early nineteen hundreds, 208 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: heavy rows of outlawed the flying wedge, if you remember. 209 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I pretend to remember, but it 210 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: strikes me there was a time twenty twenty five years 211 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: ago where you couldn't push the runner, and it sort 212 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: of came back and the Eagles, to their credit, has 213 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: sort of taken advantage of the thing that was allowed. 214 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: But I don't remember when it was outlaw I mean 215 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: when it was brought back in. But now, when I 216 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: was a kid covering games or a kid watching games, 217 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: you could not push the runner from behind. So I 218 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: don't think it would be very hard for them to 219 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: outlaw the play, and I think they will mainly because 220 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: of the aesthetics and as you say, Judy, the safety 221 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: with eventually creating a situation where you have eleven on eleven. 222 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: That's why they outlawed the onside kick or not outlawed, 223 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: but change the onside kick rule was because of that 224 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: point of contact in the danger. I think actually this 225 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: play will go in some capacity by the way that 226 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: either limiting how many people can push or something. It 227 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like they'll allow it. I don't love 228 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: legislation that outlaws plays. I think you get into a 229 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: gray area there, but I think they will outlaw this 230 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: win in some capacity. Yeah, I'm curious to see. They've 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: said after the first day of meetings that that was 232 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: like one of the primary topics of conversation. Like they 233 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time going back and forth on that, 234 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: and they want to keep looking at it, and I 235 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: think going into the March meeting is when they'll have 236 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: a long conversation with the other owners because it also 237 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: just doesn't look very good, and like that's important that 238 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: matters in a league that scores forty points a game. 239 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're lining up. I would also add this, 240 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: even if they don't outlaw it, the first time a 241 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: quarterback gets injured doing it will be the last time 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: we see a called. Well that leads into our next conversation, 243 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: and it's the possible return of the emergency quarterback rule, right, 244 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: I mean, up until twenty ten, league require teams that 245 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: desigly had an emergency quarterback. Clear you could always have 246 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, you could have five quarterbacks, six, you can 247 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: do whatever you want, use your roster the way you want. 248 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: But after we saw what happened in the playoff game 249 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: with the Niners, which was obviously very unfortunate, where they 250 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: literally did not have a quarterback one team though one team, 251 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they're going to go back to that. 252 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean there was a reason that they you know, 253 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: lots of teams only want to carry, only want to 254 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: have two active and as the risk you right, and 255 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: that's the risky one. I mean, that's the calculation. You 256 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: you make the decision, head coach. Yeah, you want to 257 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: use your roster. I don't think they should mandate how 258 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: teams a lot their roster. I think you've got to 259 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: at some point the team's responsible for, yeah, putting their 260 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: players on the field. There's fifty three. You guys figure 261 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: it out right out the consequence if you think you're 262 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: so smart and can carry two and you guys, teams 263 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: do right. Most teams have gone that way to get 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: an extra player in there. But I mean after you know, 265 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: that was sort of the cautionary tail, after we saw 266 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: what happened. There maybe a change. One more to discuss here, 267 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: and it's the post ability of making roughing the pass 268 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: a reviewable. This to me, parkins back to the pattern 269 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: reference reviewable. It lasted one year because it's a judgment call, 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: and you know you can't regulate all that as well, 271 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: do you think, Julie, Yeah, that's exactly how the competition 272 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: committee feels too. They do not want to go down 273 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: that path that year was not pleasant for them. That 274 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: was I mean, they remember they sort of I don't 275 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: want to use the word bullying, but they sort of 276 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: got bullied into making it reviewable. The Competition Committee had 277 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: real concerns about making pass interference reviewable. The coaches wanted it. 278 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: They sort of talked them into it at the league meeting, 279 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: big meeting, and they said, oh, we can do this. 280 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: And it was a mess. It was a year long 281 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: headache for them, and it disappeared right afterwards. And I 282 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: think the competition Committee feels like you're going down the 283 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: same path. It's a judgment call. What they really want 284 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: is things to be called, and this doesn't is not 285 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: just roughing the pastor. This is all calls. They want 286 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: more consistency across all of the officiating crews, so that 287 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: what one crew calls roughing the pastor is the same 288 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: as what this crew call and this crew over here. 289 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: That's what they really want, is just consistency. Later in 290 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: the show, NFL media analytics experts Cynthia Freeland joined us 291 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: with the possible next wave of analytics with player and 292 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: scheme development. I hope we stop hearing things on broadcasts 293 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: that are like man analytics say it to go for 294 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: it like it drives me nuts, because that's actually not true. Okay, 295 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: that's like that's what I want to do. I want 296 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: to be the person to be like, Okay, if you 297 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: do this in past games that's worked three cours of 298 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: the time, doesn't mean it's the right decision now because 299 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: was your right tackle beat up? Was your quarterback just 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: sack three times? Like what's going like? But you know 301 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: you can, so let's just talk about it in like 302 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: this is why then maybe thinking this now putting into 303 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: play different like install So during the week that the 304 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: week has changed, they're trying to optimize for things like load, which, 305 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: by the way, sports performance analytics have probably the furthest 306 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: place that they still could go, but they've come really 307 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: far too, which is great. Keep me healthier, keep me 308 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, more able to do my job, and also 309 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: like keep me good for the rest of my life. 310 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Life awesome. These are all great things that have come 311 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: from analytics, right big data. So the reality is is 312 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: you know you're going to change your week, and so 313 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: now we're practicing more fourth down situations and so it's 314 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: not just like haphazard go for it like, that's not 315 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: what it is. Do you have the fourth down play 316 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: when you've seen you know, cover three six times in 317 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: a row. I don't have the answer to that, but 318 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: your coach does, right, So the so the reality is 319 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's a way of staying organized 320 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: and trying to use your assets aka your players to 321 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: beat my assets in the best way possible get the 322 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: biggest return on investment. Has a coach ever blamed you 323 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: for everything? Yes, for going for something and he really 324 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to. I'm sure that happens. Luckily. I've never 325 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: been in that situation, but I will say that I did. 326 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: There was one coach who I called out for not that. 327 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: He's like, don't you let I go for it on 328 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: fourth and mind you are going for it in ridiculous situations. 329 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: You just want to be knows of the fourth down 330 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: coach And he's like, well, isn't that analytics? I'm like, no, 331 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: it's all about context. Right. So if then right, like, 332 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: you're not gonna build more trucks if everybody's not buying them, right, right, 333 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: So make the decisions to you know, figure out what 334 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: you have and make the right It's decision making, right, 335 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: if you can get ten percent better at your there's 336 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: seventy snaps in a football it seventy plays in a 337 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: football game. That's seven places. How many games have coming 338 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: down to seven places? The answer is a lot, most right, 339 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: So if you can get ten percent better, if you 340 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: can make the quality of those seven, that's a huge improvement. 341 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Synths and a coach who knows that very well. Schug Peterson. 342 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean the guy was he was the fourth down 343 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: all these other four towns. He's not the one who 344 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: yelled at me because he actually a guy who works 345 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: on your staff now, who I think is one of 346 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: if not like, his name's Ryan Paganetti, and I have 347 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: to say I'm Italians, but Paganetti, you can't say it 348 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: the other right. But anyway, so he does a really 349 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: good job of explaining how the fourth down should work. 350 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Because Doug was not the one who got mad at 351 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: me for that. He was not. It was another one. 352 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: He's out in California and you may have beaten him 353 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: in a most epic comeback. Okay, anyway, so it wasn't. 354 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: It was hot Jack's Drivetime airs Tuesday mornings in the 355 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: off season on Jaguars dot com. The twenty twenty three 356 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: season is on the horizon and you won't want to 357 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: miss it. 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I learned years and years ago from 386 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Dick Vermeil, and he said that when you draft a 387 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: quarterback number one, the entire organization, and he's talking about 388 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: the janitors, he's talking about everybody in the organization, the 389 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: objective has to be to make that guy a great player. 390 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: And clearly that was the approach they took this year. Unfortunately, 391 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, people talked about him as a generational 392 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: talent when he came out, and that put an unfair 393 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: burden on him because he's not really there's very few 394 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: generational talents, as you know. And then they saw what 395 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: he was and they worked with him, and they did 396 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: some really good things with him that help he needed 397 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: to be sped up. He was very deliberate and everything 398 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: he did. He's a big kid who's a long strider, 399 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: so you need to shorten his strides, you need to 400 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: quicken his drop, quicken his set, quick in his delivery, 401 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: and when you combine that with the nature of the offense, 402 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: which is more quick rhythm throws, that had to all 403 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: work together, and they did a masterful job with that. 404 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: And Lawrence was obviously a very willing student. And you 405 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: know the thing about Trevor Lawrence that also works with 406 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: all this is Lauren is very good at picking up concepts, 407 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: and that's really important. He's the kind of kid that 408 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you can go through concepts with him and he picks 409 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: it up quickly and then he understands it and then 410 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: you can build off those concepts. Because the past game 411 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: is about concepts. You get to the concepts in different ways, 412 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: different personnel packages, different formations, but it's about the concepts, 413 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: and he's very good, very smart at picking that up 414 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: and then taking it to the field. So it was 415 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: a really good mix of coaching staff and quarterback. And 416 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: obviously we know that if your quarterback plays at a 417 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: high level and you have a good one, your chance 418 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: of winning games improves dramatically. And that's basically what happened 419 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville on that side of the ball clearly. Last 420 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: week we also caught up with CBS Sports, NFL Network 421 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: and Serious XM analyst Charles Davis discussing the quarterback and 422 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: the offensive weapons available. All Right, you mentioned at twenty 423 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: seven nothing down the playoffs. First off, they rallied to 424 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, which was remarkable enough. Anyway, the 425 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: quarterback started playing better, turn it over defense, took the 426 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: ball away, they beat the Titans, they won the division, 427 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: and then they're down twenty seven. There's no way, there's 428 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: no chance. But the quarterback had the mindset to work 429 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: himself out of that. That's special. That does that doesn't 430 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: grow on trees. It's special. Obviously, his makeup is incredible, 431 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: but don't forget his head coach. At halftime, Yeah, okay, 432 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: he goes to the obligatory halftime interview, and he could 433 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: have been slumped, He could have been a little despondent, 434 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: he could have been, well, the heck of a year 435 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: and you know, just for us to get here and 436 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: let's see if we can just play, you know, hard 437 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: to second half. He had support for that quarterback and 438 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: still believed in him. And while he saw it all happen, 439 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: he didn't let it affect and like, Okay, I'm going 440 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: to change everything we do. We just have to play better. 441 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: This kids are it's amazing when you put all that together. 442 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: But Jacksonville did in one season's time. But Doug Peterson 443 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: and his staff did and assessing what they were getting 444 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: coming in in terms of how to relate to players 445 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: and what players needed from them. To start it all off, 446 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: You and I saw each other in the summer and 447 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: we had a conversation about that, and you told me 448 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: that process had started already. This staff knew what they 449 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: were doing in terms of you can't just come in there. 450 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: That's not what that team needed. That team needed, they 451 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: needed some hey, they needed a chance to trust this 452 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: teams and they did all of that. Now you put 453 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: all together and they've been accumulating talent. It wasn't just 454 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: last year's draft. They've been accumulating talent for a while 455 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: and it's all paid off. Charles Davis with us soul. 456 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: All right, here comes Calvin Ridley, Evan Ingram. They've they've 457 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: been talking still. We'll see what that happens in the 458 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. You bring Ridley in on top 459 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: of Kirk and Zay Jones and Evan Ingram, and if 460 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: they draft another tight end. I mean, this is an 461 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: offense all of a sudden, you're adding different pieces. What 462 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: would Ridley do for this offense? And what would it 463 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: open up for all the rest of those drafts? Yeah, 464 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: I think you just neda would well it opened up? 465 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: You know Ridley if he come back the way you 466 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: would expect him to come back. If we see the 467 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: Riddley that we saw before he had to take his 468 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: sabbatical from football, he'll see the speed. You'll also see 469 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: it ability to make plays. He's not just a speech 470 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: or runs downfield. Hey look at me, look over here. 471 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: So these guys can run routes. If you don't go 472 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: cover him, he's gonna beat you, right, He's gonna make 473 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: plays and He's not simply a goball guy. He can 474 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: do other things as well. So now you open up 475 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: things now if you're having Ingram. Obviously, as you pointed out, 476 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: professional football money makes a difference at all, But my goodness, 477 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: all things being equal, why would you want to be 478 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: anywhere else? Just had the best cheer of your career. 479 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: You have a young quarterback there, you got a coach 480 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: in the staff that believes in you. If you don't 481 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: think this is the place to be, well, if someone 482 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: comes from crazy offer, I get all that. I'm not. 483 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't deal with people's money. That's their issue. I said. 484 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, all things being equal, this is 485 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: the spot for him where he could continue to blossom. 486 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: That was the Evan Ingram. Everyone with the Giants draft 487 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: the first round guy. That's the guy that they drafted, 488 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: and he will continue to get better because everyone else 489 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: will get better on offense around him. And it's nice 490 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: to see Etn be a running back. Yeah I left 491 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: him off the list, But that slot receiver thing, what 492 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: were they thinking? What was going on? I mean, come on, 493 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: past regime, that was all coming I know, But what 494 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: were you thinking? Did you watch his tape at Clemson. 495 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: Wasn't that guy. By the way, slot receivers grow on trees. 496 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: There are a lot of out there. Great running backs 497 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: don't grow on trees. So I'll stop there. There you 498 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: have it, both the Cosella and Davis pods on the 499 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: official Jaguars podcast network. Let's rap with three guests from 500 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our Radio Thursday. We start with heading team 501 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: position for the Jaguars, Kevin Kaplan from Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, 502 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: explaining the medical evaluation process at the combine. The most 503 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: important part of the combine experience for these players is 504 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: the medical evaluation, and certainly for the teams that want 505 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: to get exposed to these players and see what's really 506 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: going on. That's where you and your alf come in. 507 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: So take us through the process. Is there a room? 508 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Are there multiple rooms? Do the players roll through? Do 509 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: you get to just cherry pick guys? I mean, how 510 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: does that work for the position? Yeah? I mean, I'm 511 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: sure you know this. The way this whole NFL Combine 512 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: really started was medical, right. Doctors are saying, Hey, we're 513 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: bringing guys in, we don't know anything about them, you know, 514 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: and so can you tell us what their medical risk? Is, 515 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: and that's how this whole thing started, and then the running, 516 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: the jumping, all that kind of followed suit. So the 517 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: way it works is there are rooms of physicians. It's 518 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: our room has been the same at least ever since 519 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: I've been around. It's the same group of guys. So 520 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: it's us, the Titans, the Jets, the Chargers, and the Bengals. 521 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: So you're very familiar with the guys that are in 522 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: your room. And every single player that's here, you know, 523 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: the combine comes to that room, and so they'll bring 524 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: them in one by one. There's a kind of a 525 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: pre combined screen where they talk to the players, getting 526 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: an idea of their medical history, and so they gather 527 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: information from the time they were in high school playing 528 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: football through I mean even before that. Guys have had 529 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: injuries when they are five and six years old that 530 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: are on their injury. Really at every piece of information 531 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: you can gather is there. So a lot of scans, 532 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: X rays, MRI, CT scans are done before you can 533 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: get here. So they bring a player in one by one. 534 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: They'll be a presentation. The player will be there on 535 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: the exam table and they'll present the player to us 536 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: and say this is what you know, who the player is, 537 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: these are the injuries he's had, and then they'll go 538 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: through the examination and say, you know that in his 539 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: shoulders stable, his knees got a little swelling to it, 540 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: He's incisions are healed, etc. Etc. And then we're free 541 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: to get up and feel and get a look. There's 542 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: certain guys that we're looking at specifically, but you want 543 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: to have an overall look because you know how it 544 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: is through the year, they're always working the back into 545 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: that roster. So they may not the Jaguars may not 546 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: be interested in a player today, but that guy may 547 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: come to you as a free agent, you know, three 548 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: months from now. So you get a good idea of 549 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: that player. So you take notes on everybody, or at 550 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: least I do, and then you know when it comes 551 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: time to grading the player. Have a grading scale because 552 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: I want to be able to easily relay the information 553 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: to Trent and to Dug and to Fir and say 554 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: this guy is is this level of risk? You know? 555 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: And there's it's a Every team has a different scale. 556 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Vers there's one to five. You know, the ones we're 557 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: the healthiest guys typically are the punters and kickers that 558 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: come in. It's just the way it works, and fives 559 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: is a fail and it's very rare to fail someone orthopedically. 560 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: Those are typically the medical to heart stuff. So then 561 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: I go back home, make sure I've reviewed all the MRIs, 562 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: and then we have a medical meeting where we go 563 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: through every guy that they're interested on their board as 564 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: is there a medical risk there and what is the 565 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: medical risk. Also on the show, Kirk Morrison, former Jags 566 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: linebacker and now host on Sirius XM NFL radio and 567 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: an ESPN college football analyst. Everyone kind of gets the 568 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: state of the Union address for each franchise, you know, 569 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: general manager, head coach. They come out and talk and 570 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: you're sort of recapping last season because now we have 571 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: time for everyone to trying to evaluate what happened and 572 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: now what do we need to look forward to. And 573 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: everybody says, hey, well, this is what you guys need 574 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: to improve on. You guys got to go get sever 575 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: you gotta go get a you know, running back, a linebacker, 576 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: defensive vent and so it's always fun to come to 577 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Indy and get the sort of the state of the 578 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: union of where the team is at. They won't tell 579 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: you who they're going to pick. But obviously, how do 580 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: you feel about certain players on your roster as we 581 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: also get ready to hit free agency. Yeah, there's a 582 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: little bit too obviously that it's the first time most 583 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: media has talked to most of these guys since they've 584 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: been in the bunker and really looked back on what 585 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: they really did. You know, they look at tape week 586 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: to week, but they started to do a deep dive 587 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: or what they need and then they come out, Kirk, 588 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: and they tell you nothing. Yeah, I mean the stories 589 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: I write from here are always yeah, there's a pretty 590 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: good lead, and then they'll say, yeah, we need to 591 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: get better at X. But then they really never go 592 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: into very much, which you don't expect. A story of 593 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: the Dog and Pony Show if you will, Kirk, not 594 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: every player who's been with the Jaguars in the last 595 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: twenty years has great memories. But I know you're two 596 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: thousan ten seasons you spent with him. Tell me just 597 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: the best memory you have it that season. Because there 598 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: was an underrated season, I think a lot of fans 599 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: have forgotten how good that team was or almost was. 600 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: That team was the best team that I've actually played 601 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: on the National Football League. I played eight years in 602 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: the league, and that twenty ten team was uh was one. 603 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I still have lifelong friendships for playing one year in Jacksonville, 604 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: and I was so upset. I wanted to play a lot, 605 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot longer because not only did I 606 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: even being able to embrace the Jacksonville community, the people, 607 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: the fan base. It was so fun. And David Garrard 608 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: was an exceptional quarterback. He played outstanding that year. Uh, 609 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: Josh Scobee, Scobe Scobie Bryant, you know, because he was 610 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: just automatic that year. He had I think he kicks 611 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: Homedy in a row. He was outstanding. But Maurice Jones 612 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: drew a guy who you know, we grew up in 613 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: the same area in northern California. Yeah kid, Yeah, And 614 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: so to be able to be on the team with him, 615 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: and to think that Marcedes Lewis in the career that 616 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: he had a career still playing, he had a career year, 617 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, a career year Pro Bowl year for him 618 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: in twenty ten. And the coaches, obviously Jack del Rio, 619 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: but you see some of the other coaches and what 620 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: they've been able to do that were on that staff. 621 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: Corey Unland has been an outstanding coach. You look at 622 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: some of the offensive mine Todd Monkin, who was now 623 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator in Baltimore, and he was the receiver's coacher, 624 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: and so you had all of these I mean, head 625 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: coach of Michigan State, right was Tucker that was our decourd. 626 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: So I had all of these offensive minds and people 627 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: who are around us, and I'm saying, wow, this is unbelievable. 628 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: But it was such a good season. I wish we 629 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: could have finished it off. We went eight and eight. 630 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: We had an opportunity but still paid Manning was paid Manning, 631 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: and we had a game that allowed us if we 632 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: beat you know, the Indianapolis Colts in a week I 633 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: believe it was thirteen at the time, we win the division. 634 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: And we lose that matchup, and we didn't finish the 635 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: job down the stretch, and so we lost. But man 636 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: and you mentioned that one of the great seasons that 637 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: I know I've had a chance to play in my career. 638 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: And finally, CBS Sports senior writer Pete Priscoe, tight end 639 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: Evin Ingram and right tackle Juan Taylor are the priorities 640 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: as the new league year approaches. Well, Evan Ingram wasn't 641 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: going anywhere no matter what they were trying there. They 642 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: probably still are trying to get a deal done with 643 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: him if they can't get the deal right, if they 644 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: don't get the deal done with him, but if they 645 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: don't get the deal done with him before they even 646 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: put the because they haven't officially put the tag on 647 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: them yet there, they're going to do it one way other. 648 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: He will be in Jacksville next year no matter what. 649 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: But if they get him tagged, then maybe what do 650 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: you do with with You know, Juan Taylor personally, And 651 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I said that to them. I would not let Juan 652 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: Taylor out the door. He's too valuable. This is an 653 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: offensive team. You have a franchise quarterback. Make sure the 654 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: offense is every bit as good as it can be. 655 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: And by keeping Juwan Taylor there, I think, and Evan 656 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: Ingram there, and you add Ridley to the equation. And 657 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: by the way, I hear nothing but good things about 658 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: his ability to work out. He's supposedly flying around in 659 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: his workouts. Then all of a sudden, your offense is 660 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: pretty much set. You need a big banger back, But 661 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: aside from that, you're pretty much set there. Well, they 662 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: were tenth in the league in offense last year and 663 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: really spent the first seven or eight games trying to 664 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: figure out where they were, and then they got you know, 665 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: so I anticipated what you're talking about them being. I 666 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: think there ought to be a top three or four 667 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: offense next year based on that, and I agree. I 668 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: don't think they want to let Joan Taylor out the door. 669 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I think there will be a point, you know, as 670 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: with any number, that it might get too big for him. 671 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you can necessarily say we can't about 672 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: the door at any price. And that's a matter of 673 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: how Drew wants to come in. And if Drew really 674 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: wants to get into free agency, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, 675 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: it will be tough, and particularly you know, some teams 676 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: look at it. There's a desperation for offensive lineman, which 677 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: might drive up this price. I mean, I did the 678 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: top one hundred ranking of the lineman and I think 679 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: he was seventh. Amount of the players. I think I 680 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: am seventh. That's how much I feel about all players. Yeah, okay, 681 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: that's how much I feel about his growth this year. 682 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he was that good. I'd find a way 683 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: to keep them, because if you don't keep them, then 684 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: what are your options or you're moving one of those 685 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: guys to right tackle. Walker Little proof he couldn't play 686 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: right tackle, at least it didn't look like he could. 687 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: So I think that's a problem. So keep this offense. 688 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: This is an offensive team. Don't weaken it. And if 689 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: you weak, if you go in, let's just say you 690 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: keep all those guys. Yeah, you got three tackles. Guys 691 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: go down in this league too, We've seen that before. 692 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: And if you don't, one of them maybe can play 693 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: left guard, and you know, probably would be Walker Little 694 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: would play left Guardaniel of a sudden, you have a 695 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: giant offensive line, big offensive line around that quarterback. So 696 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. And and I think they're smart, 697 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: they realize what they're gonna do, and I think they'd 698 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: love to keep them. They keep it intact and build 699 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: it around Trevor Lawrence. But we'll see it's hard to 700 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: do when you have cap problem. And of course, since 701 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: that conversation, Ingram has been franchise tagged as of Monday, 702 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: March sixth, then we'll see what happens with Taylor before 703 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: the March fifteenth started the league year, if anything that 704 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: will do it. Coming up this week, the Ozone Podcast 705 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: from In with Peter King of NBC Sports and Maurice 706 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: Jonestrew of NFL Media. Enjoy the week and thanks for listening. 707 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll catch you next week on 708 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Broadcast. Weekend Review Podcasts presented by TIAA Bank