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Speaker 1: Welcome to America's Mr garbutsch Off. Tear down this wall.

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Speaker 1: eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton, Team Buck,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hut. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: being here today. A lot to talk to you about.

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot going on in the news cycle

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Speaker 1: around the world and here at home. Of course, of

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Speaker 1: those two things are blending together a bit. It with

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Speaker 1: President Trump's first planned foreign visit about to be underway.

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Speaker 1: Here's the itinerary that Trump has. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: in Ri odd Saudi Arabia tomorrow, and then Jerusalem and

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Speaker 1: Bethlehem and then Rome. So Trump will be visiting the

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Speaker 1: countries that are the homelands of the three great Monotheisms.

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Speaker 1: The three abrahammock religions. On the case of Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 1: He's not visiting a sacred or holy city. He's visiting,

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Speaker 1: UH the capital city. UM. But I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: to you a bit about expectations for what will be

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Speaker 1: going on while he is in Saudi Arabia. But but first,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's all this criticism about how Trump hasn't

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Speaker 1: traveled abroad in his first hundred days, how he likes

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Speaker 1: on the campaign trail, he would choose to go home.

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Speaker 1: No matter where he is in the country, he would

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Speaker 1: or not not abroad internationally, but even away from home,

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Speaker 1: which I totally respect. I understand. I'm a homebody. I

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Speaker 1: sleeping in random places. And the days where I used

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Speaker 1: some kind of uh civil strife, a coup, or getting kidnapped,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with all that. I have no interest, at

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Speaker 1: least for the purposes of leisure. I would never go

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Speaker 1: to those places anymore. I've done enough. And also even

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Speaker 1: for work, well, for work, i'd probably do it, but

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Speaker 1: these days my work involves me being in the freedom

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Speaker 1: hunt first and foremost. But so Trump is traveling abroad,

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Speaker 1: and this might give a nice rest bit for the

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Speaker 1: administration from the recent news cycle, which has been rough.

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Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about it. It has been a

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Speaker 1: a tough few days for the Trump administration. You had

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Speaker 1: the allegations of oversharing with the president and his uh Russians,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Russian buddies, without makes the second part

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Speaker 1: of the Trump conspiracy, but a couple of Russians that

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Speaker 1: of course, the Comy the alleged comy memo saying that

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Speaker 1: into Trump Russia collusion. And and then the media has

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Speaker 1: for the Trump administration. The media was like, they've scored

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Speaker 1: a lot of points. So while this isn't necessarily the

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Speaker 1: dream vacation that I would put together, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: I'd be heading to Saudi Arabia for fun. Um, they

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Speaker 1: public executions, no displays of any any non Muslim religious

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Speaker 1: this country. That is also buying many, many billions of

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Speaker 1: In fact, that reports out that that's a major aspect

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Speaker 1: of what Donald Trump will be talking to the Saudi's about,

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Speaker 1: it's a complicated relationship. And to understand how we got

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Speaker 1: talking to them about enormous arms deals with US arms makers,

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Speaker 1: and so they are you could say, our national security

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Speaker 1: front of me. They're helpful in some ways, they're very

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Speaker 1: destructive in others. Trump's meeting with them will be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Will do a after action report on that for you all, um,

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, give me college, you know, let

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Speaker 1: me know what you think about Trump's first trip abroad

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Speaker 1: or anything else. And in fact, we could even do

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Speaker 1: action movie quote Fridays team will be right back. I know,

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Speaker 1: we just did a deep dive on Saudi Arabia because

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Speaker 1: Trump is gonna be hanging out there tomorrow. Um, no

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Speaker 1: boozing and Saudi Arabia. But Trunk doesn't drink and drink,

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Speaker 1: so that's pretty easy. Actually, you know, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors certain hotels. I'm sure there's all kinds

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Speaker 1: of Johnny Walker that is consumed in other things. But nonetheless, um,

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Speaker 1: we have oh it's actually movie quote Friday action we

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Speaker 1: you left quote freeze your mine Fridays action movie quote

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Speaker 1: Friday's Adam in Virginia's got one for me? What do

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Speaker 1: you got, sir? Hey? Shields shields high? All right? Uh

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a softball, but it's an awesome movie.

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Speaker 1: I know you like it. I'll take it. Uh. When's

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Speaker 1: some wild eyed eight foot monster foot maniac grabs your

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Speaker 1: You just stare that big sucker right back in the eye.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Jack and Big Trouble Little China. I that

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Speaker 1: I cannot pretend that that is a great movie. But

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Speaker 1: I love that movie anyway. I mean, it is an

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Speaker 1: absurd it is an absurd piece of cinema, but I

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Speaker 1: love it anyway. I don't. I don't care. I don't

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Speaker 1: care anybody says. In fact, I watch it back sometimes

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Speaker 1: love it, absolutely awesome man, rock and roll shield, Hie.

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Speaker 1: I don't thank you very much for calling in Carling, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Next on the line, here, what's up Fields High? All right?

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Speaker 1: You ready for this one? Yes, sir, listen and understand

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Speaker 1: he's out there. He can't be bargained with. You can't

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Speaker 1: be reason with. It doesn't feel pity or morrise or

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Speaker 1: fear and it absolutely will not stop ever until you

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Speaker 1: are dead. Kyle Reese to Sarah Connor and Terminator one,

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Speaker 1: think it is eight D model? I forget, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, there we go. Man, anything else, Carl uh buck?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask your opinion on, hypothetically, if

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Speaker 1: worse comes to worse and impeachment proceedings go through, what

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Speaker 1: kind of pressure can the rest of us put on

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Speaker 1: our elected officials to let them know if they go

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Speaker 1: through with this, they're gonna pay. I think the obvious ways,

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Speaker 1: or the the clear ways would be to call in

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Speaker 1: to email, you know, you write them. People think that

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. It actually does, especially for a congressman.

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Speaker 1: You know, Congressional elections are determined by pretty thin margins

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Speaker 1: in a lot of places, and they want to keep

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Speaker 1: their jobs. So if you get a switchboard lit up

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Speaker 1: to a congressman's office and uh and enough emails, you know,

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Speaker 1: and also just like with me, right when people write

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Speaker 1: me an email and it's thoughtful and and you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to agree with me or even be

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Speaker 1: neice necessarily, but as long as they're respectful and insane,

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Speaker 1: I'm likely to read through it and try to respond,

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Speaker 1: uh in good faith saying things true to congs. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you're right, you're like, you're a gonna criminal, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're probably not gonna get the

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Speaker 1: intended results. So yeah, I mean, I think you reach

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Speaker 1: out to them, put pressure on them, light at the

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Speaker 1: switchboard of your congressman, and you know. Yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't impeachment, it's not it's not gonna happen. People

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Speaker 1: are acting I'm gonna talk about this in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: The media is acting like Trump's gonna get back and

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Speaker 1: they'll have, you know, changed out the locks to the

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Speaker 1: White House. That's not the way this is gonna go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I just feel like the Republican Party Party

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Speaker 1: is getting a little weak need right now, and I

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Speaker 1: want to see more resolved. I want to see some grit.

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Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see some loyalties.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just I'm disheartened right now. To be honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I hear you, man, You're not You're not alone.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the Republicans in Congress

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Speaker 1: are doing. I know you got you got Paul Ryan

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Speaker 1: yesterday saying like, don't worry, We're still doing lots of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know about that, Paul. I'm not not

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Speaker 1: sure I'm buying I'm not sure I'm buying that car

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Speaker 1: on the lot. You know what I mean. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I need to kick the tires, taking for a test drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. So, Carl, thank you for calling

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Speaker 1: in from Indiana. Going to talk to you, Sir Joe

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Speaker 1: in California. What's up? My friend? Shield high Shields? Hi, Rock, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is there a little is there a It sounds like

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Speaker 1: But thank you very much. Who who's the who's the

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Speaker 1: little one? That's my daughter? Um, We've actually all got

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Speaker 1: Shields T shirts here, so phenomenal. Thank you. We are

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Speaker 1: People have been asking me Buck Sexing dot Com is

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Speaker 1: going to have gear. It's just taken a little while

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Speaker 1: to get the proper manufacturer. We're doing it, though, can

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Speaker 1: wait to make the announcement. I'm gonna be wearing shieldside

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Speaker 1: T shirts all the time and also bucking freedom hunting

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Speaker 1: all the other stuff we're gonna have. But it's taken

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time, but I'm glad you've got

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Speaker 1: some of the uh that stuff is now. Those are

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Speaker 1: collector's items, my friend, because there's gonna be a whole

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Speaker 1: new line coming out, But those are collector's items. The

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Speaker 1: Shield's high T shirt. Yeah, well, I I sport mine

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Speaker 1: all the time out here, and honestly me too. They're

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Speaker 1: very comfortable, very good material. Yeah yeah, so um, anyway,

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Speaker 1: I haven't called in since your last day on the Blaze,

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Speaker 1: but the timing isn't great for me anymore. But good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you again after quite a while. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're a podcaster if you can't catch me a

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Speaker 1: live Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm downloading it every day.

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Speaker 1: The action movie quote there is another softball for you

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Speaker 1: see you at the potty Rickta. That's after after he

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Speaker 1: removes the arms of the bad guy in total recall

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Speaker 1: via the elevator. Yeah, he throws the arms down, and

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty you know that that movie. There's a

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Speaker 1: that's a very even for a short Zenegger movie. Total

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Speaker 1: recall is quite violent. But you know they made that

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Speaker 1: remake with with Jessica Bielle who's now oh married to

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Speaker 1: Justin timber Lake. Yeah, good luck with that, um. But

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Speaker 1: they made the remake and it's It's remakes are very

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Speaker 1: interesting to me sometimes because especially with with you know,

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Speaker 1: it's newer, with better technology, you'd figure the production value

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Speaker 1: be much higher. The remake makes the original total recall,

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Speaker 1: you know, look like a seven time Oscar winner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not closed. The remake is terrible. Yeah, that is terrible.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go see a movie this weekend? You take

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Speaker 1: the young lady with you. No, no, we won't go

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Speaker 1: to a movie. We've got other fish to fry. All right,

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Speaker 1: good man, We'll do whatever you do. There's always Netflix.

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Speaker 1: That's what I like to say, There's always Netflix. Joe.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, man, Shields h. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it and thank you for staying with me in the

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Speaker 1: transition from the old Freedom Hunt to the new. UM,

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Speaker 1: we have time for one more call. Okay, we'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Bear in Mississippi, what's up, Barry yep Black? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday? Happy Friday to you, sir, Quick questions got

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Speaker 1: short amount of time. I've been waiting for the right

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Speaker 1: so we we we got about a minute and change.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to rush, They'll go and take take

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Speaker 1: your time with the question. I've been waiting for the

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Speaker 1: right time to ask it. You opened the door UH.

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Speaker 1: Without Islam, and considering what you just said recently, without Arabia,

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Speaker 1: would there even be a T s A. Well, without

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Speaker 1: And without Gee Hottest, there wouldn't be a nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: and so um without you would you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to see this is where you get into UH

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Speaker 1: treacherous intellectual waters, right because it's it's a tiny it's

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Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny fraction of UH, the Islamic world, very

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Speaker 1: very very small percentage of of Muslims. And when I

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Speaker 1: say very very small, I mean you know you're and

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Speaker 1: I'm not somebody that tries to hide the numbers or

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Speaker 1: play games, right, I mean I tell you the truth,

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Speaker 1: which is that ji Hot is the biggest terror threat

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Speaker 1: in America around the world, that the greatest threat of UH,

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Speaker 1: the most regressive and dangerous ideology to Western civilization is

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Speaker 1: Islamism and jihadism that there's no So I try to

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Speaker 1: play it straight on all that stuff. But you're still

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Speaker 1: thinking when you're talking about the Muslim population in the

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Speaker 1: world that's actually involved in terrorist activity. I mean I

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Speaker 1: don't I can't do the math right off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head. But I mean you're talking about point

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Speaker 1: zero zero zero zero one or so. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: very small. But all the people who uh Islam, you know,

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Speaker 1: the karans is, you're gonna have to perform jihad or

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Speaker 1: you have to pay for gihad. So don't all these

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Speaker 1: people contribute to their church weekly And isn't that all funding?

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Speaker 1: Well that they can they can contribute to to their

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Speaker 1: mosque and they can do something. One of the pillars

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Speaker 1: of Islam is to pay something called there's a cop

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Speaker 1: which is a charitable charitable tax um. But for the

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Speaker 1: most look, uh and now that's Verry. I thank you

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Speaker 1: for calling in. I don't have as much time on

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Speaker 1: this is I think I would need give a more

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Speaker 1: falsome answer because we're about to go into a break here.

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Speaker 1: But um, there is a tremendous spectrum of belief with

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Speaker 1: within pardon me, stumbling radio host, get your act together.

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Speaker 1: Tremendous spectrum of belief within Islam from people who are fantastic, moral,

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Speaker 1: wonderful human beings that you know I have and would

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Speaker 1: continue to and trust my life too, and the worst

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Speaker 1: gehattest scum on the planet. He spreads freedom because freedom

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Speaker 1: is not gonna spread itself, buck sext in his back.

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Speaker 1: There was this theory that I think has collapsed already,

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Speaker 1: theory that Trump would be over there as commander in

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Speaker 1: chief in some places overseas doing his thing. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in ri odd I hear it's lovely this time

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Speaker 1: of year in read like a hundred and twenty degrees. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then he's going to be in Israel and Jerusalem and Bethlehem,

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Speaker 1: and then he will stopping in I think it's yeah, Roman,

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Speaker 1: then Belgium. So this might be a time for the

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Speaker 1: media to run some stories about, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a new wonder drug that's on the horizon, or of

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Speaker 1: a a social media campaign that's raising money for uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: abandoned chew hours somewhere whatever, right, like some nice stories

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Speaker 1: or some just educational informational stories, and they would hold

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Speaker 1: the Trump stuff until he came back. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I heard some pundits, and look, it's tough. I've been

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Speaker 1: in this pundit position where they put you on TV

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Speaker 1: and they're like, say something interesting about this not interesting event.

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Speaker 1: You're like, well, um, you know it could go either way,

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Speaker 1: and you start to fall into esp and commentator mode

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Speaker 1: where and I don't mean the current version, which is

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Speaker 1: like so social justice warriors talking about guns and racism

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. No, no, no no, I mean uh,

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Speaker 1: old school where they're just like, you know, the guy,

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Speaker 1: the guy who has more points on the board at

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Speaker 1: the end, is gonna win this thing. You know, it's

637
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Speaker 1: a pre game. Mean, I know there's a lot more

638
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Speaker 1: to it than that. But sometimes when you can tell

639
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Speaker 1: when they're running thin on content, right, and when you're

640
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: on TV the same thing had happened. Let's say, you know, Buck,

641
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Speaker 1: the president's going on his first on his first foreign trip.

642
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Speaker 1: You know what will this mean for foreign policy? I

643
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: talked to you about Saudi Arabia, so because I think

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. But you know, he's gonna go to some meetings,

645
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Speaker 1: he's gonna talk to some people, and not nothing enormous

646
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: or life altering is going to come out of this,

647
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Speaker 1: certainly not for any of us. And yeah, this is

648
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Speaker 1: what presidents do, right, But back to the initial premise,

649
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna try to stay on track here and

650
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Speaker 1: not bounce around too much on Friday. Uh you there

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Speaker 1: there were those I've seen them going on TV people

652
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Speaker 1: last day or two. Oh, it's great that Trump is

653
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Speaker 1: gonna be away because it will take some of the

654
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: heat off of this administration, given what I think is

655
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: the worst week the administration has had would be this week.

656
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Speaker 1: I believe that as a fair statement to make it

657
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: at this point in time. Um, but nope, me, he

658
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: didn't stop at all. Here's what we got now from

659
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Speaker 1: the Washington and I'm sorry the New York Times. Trump

660
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: told Russians that firing nut job Comey eased pressure from investigation.

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Speaker 1: That is the headline, the main headline on the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. Right now, I have to read some of

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Speaker 1: this to you and then we will just then we

664
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Speaker 1: will discuss amongst ourselves. We'll we will discuss this one.

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Speaker 1: Here's what it said. Press firstly called call me a

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Speaker 1: nut job? Is um, yeah, not that. If if somebody

667
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: asked me, if they said buck Trump said something mean

668
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: about Comey. Uh, we'll give you We'll give you three guesses.

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Speaker 1: I think I mean nut and no profanity allowed. I

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Speaker 1: think nut job would have been in there. I think

671
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Speaker 1: I probably could have gotten that one. But al right,

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Speaker 1: here's what this piece says. In the New York Times,

673
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Speaker 1: President Trump told trolled Russian officials that would actually be

674
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Speaker 1: that that maybe there's that too. President Trump told Russian

675
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Speaker 1: officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the

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Speaker 1: FBI director James Comey had relieved quote great pressure on him,

677
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Speaker 1: according to a document summarizing the meeting, quote I just

678
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a

679
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: real nut job, Mr Trump said, according to the document,

680
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Speaker 1: which was read to The New York Times by an

681
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Speaker 1: American official, I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's

682
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: taken off. Um. Mr Trump added, I'm not under investigation. Now.

683
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Speaker 1: This is back to that May tenth meeting, which was

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Speaker 1: came the day after he fired Comy. And you can

685
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: you can imagine now where they're going with this, right, Okay,

686
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: all of us who were saying that, not us, but

687
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. This is now I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: from the media perspective. US Harry saying the champions of

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Speaker 1: Russian stude and Pepper clearly he is. Uh, They're they're

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Speaker 1: taking this now as definitive proof. Right he called he

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Harry, that did you come a nut job?

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Speaker 1: That is very unprofessional? Yeah he did. He I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: he may have. I don't know if he did, although

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Speaker 1: I kind of believe it, but I don't know if

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00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: he did. Um. Look, I mean what we we have

696
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: been the wool has been pulled over a lot of

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00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: eyes here, folks. We've been brainwashed as a country when

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Speaker 1: we think that the FBI director standing up in front

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Speaker 1: of the American people and just deciding because that he's

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Speaker 1: going to take the role of the Attorney General who

701
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Speaker 1: should be announcing the end of the investigation into Hillary Server,

702
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: the FBI director doing it because he knows it looks

703
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: so bad, because the Attorney general is such a partisan

704
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: hack um that we're supposed to just think that that

705
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: was okay, that was normal. Um and calling me also

706
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Speaker 1: threatened to I think what he with with Muller threatened

707
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Speaker 1: to resign in the Bush administration, Like the guy is

708
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Speaker 1: a grand standard. I can't I don't know him, but

709
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a sense that I know the type.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, the person who was in your class,

711
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Speaker 1: maybe in high school, who was, um just always a

712
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: little little too much of a goody good a little officious,

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Speaker 1: you know, a little you know, Oh, like the person

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Speaker 1: who when the teacher maybe forgot on a Friday before

715
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Speaker 1: a long weekend to tell everybody what the homework assignment is,

716
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, teacher, what will our homework assignment

717
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Speaker 1: to be for this weekend? You know? Is that the

718
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: proper thing to do? Sure? Is it a little annoying? Yes?

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Speaker 1: It is. Could that be a fair analogy to the

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Speaker 1: way some people maybe deal with or view James Comey. Possibly.

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00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: I don't know the man, he could be great. I'm

722
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: also assuming he can dunk because he's like six eight

723
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Speaker 1: and when you see him, there's been that video on

724
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Speaker 1: Sienna where he's walking as like, oh my gosh, that

725
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: guy is really tall, um, and he's like, O'Reilly tall?

726
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's really tall. So uh yeah. He may

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Speaker 1: have called Comey a nut job, and this now adds

728
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Speaker 1: fuel to the fire of oh he fired Comey because

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Speaker 1: of the Russia investigation. He fired Comy because it does

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Speaker 1: once again break this down into its components and analyze

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Speaker 1: each one of them separately, as I've done with you

732
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: over Russia. Collusion. Does collusion make any Forget about the morality,

733
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Speaker 1: forget about any evidence that exists or doesn't exist. Does

734
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Speaker 1: it make sense? Right? Does it make sense? Um? I

735
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Speaker 1: don't know. If if I was going to, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I was planning to help somebody rob a bank somewhere, right,

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Speaker 1: and I decided that I was going to put on

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Speaker 1: a a chicken suit to do that, that wouldn't make

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00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: any sense, right that that that is not a sensible

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Speaker 1: thing to do. It would draw a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: to me, and that would be dumb. So even if

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Speaker 1: I was willing to be the getaway driver for somebody

743
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Speaker 1: who was robbing a bank, if I'm wearing a chicken suit,

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00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 1: that's very dumb, right That, that wouldn't make any sense.

745
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: There's no reason for me to do that. So we

746
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: can And that's an imperfect analogy. But I'm just saying,

747
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: at some level something is too stupid and risky to

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Speaker 1: believe that a criminal would even do it. If somebody

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Speaker 1: was a criminal. And again, I don't even think Trump

750
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Speaker 1: vitty this up. What I'm saying, collusion with RuSHA collusion

751
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: is not even a charge. Um, there's no Affirmative Act,

752
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: so what are we even and there's no evidence of anything.

753
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you just keep going down this rabbit hole.

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00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: It is a level of insanity here. I'm not the

755
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: only one who thinks. So You've got Bob Woodward, who's

756
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: like a like a journalist, you know, demi god on

757
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: the left because the Woodward and Bernstein and Nixon. Oh my,

758
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: here's what Woodward had to say to the reporting, to

759
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: the reporting. And I think it's time to dial back

760
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: a little bit about because there are people around, certainly

761
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: not you, certainly not the reporters at the most. We're

762
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: kind of binge drinking the anti Trump kool aid, and

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: that is not gonna work in journalism. Let the politicians

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Speaker 1: have that, uh binge drinking. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: good Um. I think it's a good analogy, binge drinking

766
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: the anti Trump kool aid. I am. I am now

767
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: picturing various members of the media with like those big

768
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: things that usually hold gatorade on the sidelines of games,

769
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: but full of cooler that they're just lifting up and

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00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: pouring all over themselves, yelling I hate Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on. They're embarrassing themselves. They are embarrassed

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Speaker 1: to those of us who watch closely and have the

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Speaker 1: time to pay attention to them. They're embarrassing themselves. And

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Speaker 1: some of them occasionally reach out to me in back

775
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: channels like do you do you really not? Do you

776
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: really not believe that? You know there's something going on

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00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: here with Trump and Russia? And I was gonna say them, yeah,

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00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: I really don't believe it, because look, there's gonna be

779
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: a reckoning here at some point if Trump and I

780
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: know there's Now there's a story, I don't even worry

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Speaker 1: it's in the Guardian or something that says, oh, they're

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Speaker 1: looking more closely at current White House official, and people

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00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: are saying that they might be looking more closely at

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Speaker 1: Jared Kushner. And it's just like, you know, if any

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that the media believes is true has

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00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: ever proven or comes true, those of us who have

787
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: been defending this administration up to this point, we'll we'll

788
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: have something to answer for those of us who are

789
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: pushing for Trump from day one in the primaries, and

790
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: no matter what, advancing him uh at all costs beyond

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00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: all other Republicans and they'll have a lot to answer for.

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00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't see that.

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Speaker 1: I should also note that the uh, the converse is

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Speaker 1: not true. Um, it is not true that. Um, when

795
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: this has proven to be nothing, When this is not

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Speaker 1: something that is uh you know it is real anymore. Um,

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00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: then I'm sorry the obverse that I say, they converse

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Speaker 1: the obverse buck, get your words right. Supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a words a words smith in real time, although you

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Speaker 1: know sometimes you're sometimes you're there a hammering at a

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00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: word and you know it looks it's supposed to be

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00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: a horseshoe, and uh, it's just not gonna get it done.

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00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't work, um, words smithing. So I don't believe any

804
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: of this nonsense about how Trump you know all that.

805
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: But now they're saying back to the I gotta I

806
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: gotta pull this back on the rails. Here they're saying

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Speaker 1: that he called called me a nut job and that

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Speaker 1: he felt really relieved after he fired him. Um. I

809
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: believe Trump probably thought that I said originally. I hope

810
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: I said it here on the show. I definitely responded

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Speaker 1: to some emails that I got about this one. They're like,

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Speaker 1: why would he fire Comey in this one? I was like,

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00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: because that's Trump and he doesn't like him. It's not

814
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: gonna shut down the investigation. In fact, it now has

815
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Speaker 1: led to if the strategic move here was Trump is

816
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna fire Comey so that it will uh derail the

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00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: look into the Trump Russia collusion stuff. At least you've

818
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Speaker 1: got away from calling it the election hack because no

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Speaker 1: election was hacked, So that's nonsense. But I guess the

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00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion stuff is also nonsense. But we're still

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00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: talking about that. But um, where was I on all this? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Point here being it's just not gonna it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be what they think it's gonna be. And oh what

824
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: about the obverse? By the way, um about the obverse?

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00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: Like to use the word again or the obverse? Reality here,

826
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: um is that when they're wrong, they'll never be wrong.

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00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: They'll never concede that Trump is is uh is free

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00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: of this. In fact, I completely disagree with Representative Kinzinger here.

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Speaker 1: This is what he's he's a he's a Republican. Here's

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00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: what he had to say. I think it's the right

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00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: thing to do. I called for this yesterday morning, I said, look,

832
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: this has gotten to partisan, and basically any new piece

833
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: of information people now put through their partisan strifes instead

834
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Speaker 1: of you know what really happened. So I think you're

835
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna see more people follow in terms of saying, hey,

836
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Speaker 1: this is the right thing to do, let's move forward.

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Speaker 1: When the President says that the appointment of a special

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Speaker 1: council hurts our country herb and labels it a witch hunt,

839
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Speaker 1: it seems just wrong. I mean, are those statements appropriate?

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Speaker 1: I think he is wrong. I don't think it's a

841
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: witch hunt. Look, if if the President thinks there's nothing

842
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: to hide in this, uh, this will exonerate him. This

843
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: show is a complete either ignorance or dishonesty on the

844
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Speaker 1: part of those who keep saying, you know, if you

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00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: have nothing to hide, you know, what's the big deal? Really?

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Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about an I R s

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Speaker 1: on it. Anyone who knows anything about a federal investigation

848
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Speaker 1: of any kind knows that it is an immensely stressful

849
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Speaker 1: situation for innocent people who get pulled into it. It

850
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: is a a in some cases, life destroying situation for

851
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: those who are charged but acquitted. You know, you get

852
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: acquitted after the federal government's decided they need to make

853
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: an example out of somebody for some reason. And your

854
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: life savings are gone, and your reputations ruined, and you

855
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: have no job, and maybe you know your wife your

856
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: husband left you because it couldn't handle the stress. You

857
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: know what the government does after all that nothing, you're

858
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: just left out there. Sorry, it's our system, you know,

859
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: it's just doing all the justice system. Here's what's really

860
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: coming out of a lot of this. And I think

861
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: that astute, astute observers of this entire situation with Trump

862
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: and collusion of the d o J and Loretta Lynch

863
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: and Hillary's emails and how all this goes down. Um,

864
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: the justice system is really just a machine for politics.

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00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, if you're like trafficking narcotics, I mean,

866
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: if you do some very basic, straightforward criminal stuff, they're

867
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna get you and they're gonna throw you in prison.

868
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: But the moment that a crime has a political angle,

869
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: the justice department is a politically driven machine. It just is.

870
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: It just is. We can sit around and trying to

871
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: make ourselves feel safe and warm at night by saying

872
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: that's not the case, but we be wrong because it

873
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: is and that's very upsetting, but we should all know

874
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: it and live with that and understand it going forward.

875
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: All right, eight four buck, we'll be right back. Last

876
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: time we spoke, senitor, I asked you if you had

877
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: actually seen evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and

878
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: the Russians, and you said to me, and I'm quoting

879
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: you now, you said, not at this time. Has anything

880
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: changed since we spoke last Well not, you know, it hasn't.

881
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: So I would depend on this investigation that we're talking

882
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: about that would bring forward any criminal activity. But I

883
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: just want to be a precise, Senator. And all the

884
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: you've had access as from the Intelligence Committee, from the

885
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee, all the access you've had very sensitive information

886
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: so far, you've not seen any evidence of collusion. Is

887
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: that right? Well, evidence that would establish that there's collusion.

888
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: There are all kinds of words around their newspaper stories,

889
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily evidence, No, Diane Feinstein, it is

890
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: not evidence. That is correct. No rumors based on nothing

891
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: or that that is not evidence. If the rumors are

892
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: based on something, there's the something which you should have

893
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: access to, um as you are a senator with access

894
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: to classified information. So you'd think you'd know. I love.

895
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's it's pretty mind blowing that we

896
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: all have to just go along with this pretense, this

897
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: little play along game of you know that they're gonna

898
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: find something any day. Now, why would they? Why would

899
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: they find something? They haven't found anything yet, but they're

900
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna there. Oh yeah, not now they're gonna find something

901
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: really really Uh. We we've had how many months of

902
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: this going on? How many leaks? Think about this for

903
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: a moment, everybody to my one of my other theories

904
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: about how if there was evidence, we would know because

905
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: it would have leaked. We have a leak now of

906
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: what Trump said to the Russians involving Comey as a

907
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: nut job. I mean, the president can't have a private

908
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: meeting in the Oval Office without specific words allegedly being

909
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: leaked to the media within days. But but we we

910
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a leak if there was smoking gun evidence

911
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: of or any of the forgets smoking gun, any evidence

912
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: of collusion, which is not even a crime. So don't

913
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: remember we're talking about um anyway. It's just this. It

914
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: is madness. This is a madness, This is a mass hysteria,

915
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: This is a a a broad delusion j J and

916
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Speaker 1: Mississippi on w BUV. What's up, sir, brother, justice is

917
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: something that doesn't really exist anymore unless you have enough

918
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: money to buy justice. That is unfortunately true. It is

919
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: unfortunately true. I'm gonna ask you. You're a young man,

920
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: and I know you're smart, but I want to ask

921
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: this question for the younger listeners that you have. Could

922
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: you tell us what the three branches of government on

923
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean the judiciary, the legislative, and the executive? Yes, sir,

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00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean I appreciate the softball, but yeah, thanks. Oh

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: uh Well. The other resert reason I do that is

926
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I have asked young people what they know about the

927
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: three branches of government, and they don't know. They are

928
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: not being taught that there are three Bani governments. They

929
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: don't they're not being taught to how their government works.

930
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: They don't know what to get these addresses about. They

931
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know what to considerate considerate flag battle is about.

932
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: They don't know what what started slavery, what continued, what

933
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: slavery continues in the world. They're fighting on issues that

934
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: have been going on for literally centuries, and they don't

935
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: know why. They don't understand they're not being taught. They're

936
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: not being taught. They're watching these you know, vloggers or

937
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: video video blogs and Kim Kardashian and reality TV. And

938
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Speaker 1: now I sound like I'm drumpy with the younger generation,

939
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: but it's true. J. J. Shields high Man, thank you

940
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: for calling in. Uh. We've got the amazing Kim Strasso

941
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: from the Wall Street Journal joining stay with me. The

942
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out with

943
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: teen Buck any time. Plus Kim Buck's latest news and analysis.

944
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Speaker 1: Go to buck Sexton dot com. That's buck Sexton dot com.

945
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Speaker 1: The Buck is back. Welcome back everyone. We have Kim

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Speaker 1: Strasso on the line. She is a Wall Street Journal

947
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Speaker 1: editorial columnist, author of The Intimidation Game, How the Left

948
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Speaker 1: Is Silencing Free Speech, and her latest on Wall Street

949
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Speaker 1: Journal dot com w s J dot com is the

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Speaker 1: Mueller caveat Kim, great to have you. It's so great

951
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: to be here back all right, what is the by

952
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: the way, do you go with Mueller? I hear it

953
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: so many different ways. I'm told it is in fact Mueller.

954
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Speaker 1: But if it's Mueller, I'll take that too. I think.

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00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: In the last couple of media appearances, I've used it

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00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: every which way in the Aime sentence, So we'll just

957
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: go with whatever. Okay, So the former FBI director who's

958
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Speaker 1: now Special Council, go ahead. The Mullard caveat. No one

959
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: doubts that Robert Mueller is a man of great honor

960
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: and integrity. He's a decorated Marine, He's had many years

961
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Speaker 1: as an ACE prosecutor, FBI director, worked for Republicans and Democrats.

962
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: But the caveat here is in part exactly that he

963
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: spent decades, most of his professional life working within that

964
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Speaker 1: elite brotherhood of prosecutors and within that exclusive fraternity that

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00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: is known as the FBI. And the problem with that

966
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: is that we now have a Russia investigation that spreads

967
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: well beyond the question of Russia's interference in US elections,

968
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: to the questions of why Jim Comey was fired, or

969
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: the question of whether or not the FBI inappropriately monitored

970
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: citizens are inappropriately unmasked them, and whether or not the

971
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: FBI or anyone at the Department of Justice is behind

972
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: the leaks of classified information. And the question is does

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Speaker 1: Mueller have the objectivity, just given that background, to do

974
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: an investigation and potentially call out people that followed him

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01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: or worked for him over the years, and the investigation,

976
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: you think it's going to go into all these different areas.

977
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: I've been wondering about this. I mean, I know nobody

978
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,479
Speaker 1: knows because it hasn't happened yet, but it would seem

979
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: to me that there are those out there who were saying,

980
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: maybe this will even take us into Hillary email server territory.

981
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Speaker 1: That I think is a stretch, but I suppose it's feasible.

982
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: It is. That part is a stretch, I think, But

983
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: it is notable. Rob Rosenstein's letter that was sent to

984
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: Mueller asking him to take this position outline that he

985
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: was supposed to look into specifically Russia's interference in the election,

986
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: whether or not there were Trump campaign ties to Russia

987
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: with regards that also any other issues that arise from that.

988
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: And look, I think in my mind at this point,

989
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: for instance, look at the Komy firing. Okay, there are

990
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: people within the White House who claimed that Comey was

991
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: fired because of an aptitude or because of the mishandling

992
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: of the Clinton probe, But there are many many critics

993
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: of President Trump who claimed he was fired in order

994
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Speaker 1: to impede an ongoing Russia investigation. I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 1: how Muller can't look at that and make a judgment

996
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: on that if he wants to get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of everything that's been going on. It seems to me

998
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: like there's a very low likelihood though, that there would

999
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: be any criminal activity with regard to Trump and getting

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01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: rid of the former FBI director comy Um. And if

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: this special council comes across information that is not pertinent

1002
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: to charges, my understanding is that ethically he's not supposed

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Speaker 1: to just let that all fly out there. That could

1004
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: be true, and in theory, we don't want special councils

1005
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: that spend a decade looking into things and end up

1006
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: allah Scooter Liberty Libby getting someone that wasn't even responsible

1007
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: for the supposed crime at hand. If there is an

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: even is one, there was no crime in that one.

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Speaker 1: By the way, which is always left out of this,

1010
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: nobody was charged with a crime other than Scooter Libby.

1011
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: No crime. Scooter Libbies crime is lying to the FBI

1012
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: and obstruction, exactly right. And that's one of the problems

1013
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: with special counsels is if there isn't anything to turn up,

1014
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: they often feel as though they can't stop until they

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: do get someone for something. Now, I think that if

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01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about all of this, one thing that has

1017
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: been a very related to the Russia investigation. Directly related

1018
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: has been the question of the leaking of highly classified information,

1019
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: in particular about Michael Flynn. That was the unmasking of

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Speaker 1: a private citizen. There were nine different current and former

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01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: employees of the federal government who confirmed that to the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post. They're not supposed to be talking about things

1023
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Speaker 1: like this, and I would hope that that would be

1024
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: part of the investigation because but this is again one

1025
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: of the worries. Look, there's a very high likelihood that

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Speaker 1: some of those leaks came within from within the FBI,

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Speaker 1: came with from within the Department of Justice. Is Mller

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01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: going to want adapt to go after people that he

1029
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: used to work with. I think that's a very very

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01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: important question that everyone should keep in mind, especially as

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: the Democrats will turn on Comey if he are sorry,

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: on Mueller if he does not play the game they

1033
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: were the way they want him to, which means there

1034
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: must be criminal charges filed against people at the end

1035
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Speaker 1: of all this. But Kim overall, as a as a

1036
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Speaker 1: matter of politics. Do you think that this is a

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Speaker 1: mistake for the Trump administration. Well, let's be clear, this

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: apparently was a Rosenstein decision the dep a G. Of

1039
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Speaker 1: the Justice Department, and according to all reports, he did

1040
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: not consult with the White House about this, nor did

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: he in formed them before it was happening. So I

1042
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily know if it's their mythic. I do think

1043
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Speaker 1: it is a problem for them, just because, yes, if

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Speaker 1: anyone we're going to do this, and if we can

1045
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: have hope that there is a nonpartisan professional who is

1046
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: going to be serious about trying to clear this up,

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Speaker 1: I think Bob Mueller is as good a pick as

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01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: you get. But again, the history of special counsels is

1049
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: very discouraging in terms of how long they take and

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Speaker 1: where they go and how they end up. We've had

1051
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Speaker 1: maybe one or two okay experiences. The rest of them

1052
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: have been very discouraging. Yeah, and and nothing really comes

1053
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Speaker 1: of it at the end in a lot of cases, right,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't didn't they didn't they do a special counsel

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Speaker 1: for for Waco, And at the end they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: federal government, no problem there, really, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: let's hope that Bob Muller understands that the central question,

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Speaker 1: the central problem here is that we are gripped almost

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Speaker 1: by a paralysis in the capital over these questions of

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Speaker 1: whether or not there was collusion, and and there needs

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Speaker 1: to be very quick and utter transparency on that question

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Speaker 1: because you know, here's the thing that I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people keep forgetting as well too. And you

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Speaker 1: now have a number of prosecutors who have been raising this.

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Speaker 1: The only investigation that we know is actually happening is

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Speaker 1: a counter intelligence probe into Russia's activities. And counter intelligence probes,

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Speaker 1: by definition, are not about prosecutions. They're fact finding missions.

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Speaker 1: So the question is if there's a crime that comes

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Speaker 1: out of this in the end, it's gonna be something

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Speaker 1: to the side of that. You know, it isn't even clear.

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Speaker 1: People don't like to hear this, but even if the

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Speaker 1: Trump associates were working with Russia, Alan Dershowitz was on

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Speaker 1: the radio this week and he said, what's the crime

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Speaker 1: in that name? The statute for me that makes that

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Speaker 1: a crime and have it? So I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about who you could actually string up

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Speaker 1: for anything in the end, even if you you know,

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Speaker 1: found some information. Kim, I'm hoping you'll help me, and

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Speaker 1: we're speaking to Kim Strasso everybody from the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: and she's also the author of the X Silent book

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Speaker 1: The Intimidation Game, How the Left of silencing free speech? Kim, I,

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Speaker 1: I hope if you agree with this premise, you will

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Speaker 1: help me popularize it. The notion that they would have

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Speaker 1: taken any active steps in Russia's active measures here to

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Speaker 1: try and collude with them in even assuming the hacking

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Speaker 1: was Russian, assuming the hacking matter, all of that, there's

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Speaker 1: no reason for the Trump campaign to do anything to

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Speaker 1: help them or work with them on it. It's crazy,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. The Russians don't need the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign to help them hack. The Trump campaign has

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Speaker 1: no They have no part to play in the illegality

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Speaker 1: of the hacking, even if they're willing to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they also had no reason to inspire nor encourage

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Speaker 1: the Russians to do it. The Russians long ago knew

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Speaker 1: that they had an issue, probably with Hillary Clinton. Uh

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Speaker 1: and probably within the moment that the Republican primary was

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Speaker 1: decided and Trump was there, had probably decided which person

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Speaker 1: would play a more helpful and of you, or a

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Speaker 1: more easy to talk to negotiating role with. And so

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Speaker 1: they didn't need Donald Trump to tell them that or

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Speaker 1: say anything or signal to them. And as we know,

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Speaker 1: and this is important for the context, Russia has been

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Speaker 1: engaged in elections for decades, maybe not to the degree

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Speaker 1: that they are with hacking, that they've been able to perform,

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Speaker 1: but for a long time. This is not news that

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Speaker 1: the Russian government chooses someone and then tries to swing

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Speaker 1: an election the way they'd like it. Real quick, can

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Speaker 1: before we let you go? H firing east pressure, Trump

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Speaker 1: told Roger That's the New York Times headline here. They

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Speaker 1: also say that the President called Comey a quote nut

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Speaker 1: job in the Oval Office meeting. Two things, how are

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Speaker 1: they getting this information? And if true, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about this information? This is to me one of

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Speaker 1: the most alarming aspects of the last month. And you

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Speaker 1: know this given your background. We classify information for for

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Speaker 1: good reason, and we keep a lot of it out

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: of eyes for good reason. And we have developed a

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: culture in this city, in Washington where nobody no longer

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Speaker 1: thinks that there are any consequences for leaking. So every

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Speaker 1: day there's a new story that it comes from private

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Speaker 1: settings or it comes from classified settings. Now, I think

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01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that what we've got here is some

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Speaker 1: people immediately around Trump are friendly with perhaps former OBOMBA officials,

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Speaker 1: are their career staff or aids that are in some

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Speaker 1: of these meetings. They're passing things along and it's getting

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Speaker 1: sent to the press. It could be Look, there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a power struggle if you believe it,

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Speaker 1: within the White House too. There could be people trying

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Speaker 1: to jockey for positions. Maybe they feel like leaking. But

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration needs to figure out where some of

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: this is coming from and make a move to make

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Speaker 1: it stop, because the headlines they're getting out of it

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Speaker 1: every day are incredibly damaging for the Republican ability to

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Speaker 1: talk about the issues that they care about. And if

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Speaker 1: the President did call Comey a nut job, well I

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Speaker 1: have to ask him, I have to ask No. I mean,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise anyone like a Donald Trump phrase? Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, And that's why it rings true to me,

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Speaker 1: to be honestly, I'm like, yeah, I could see Trump

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Speaker 1: saying that. Oh yeah, No, I mean I could see

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: him saying a lot more things too. This is not

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Speaker 1: a guy known for filtering himself, so probably wouldn't surprise me,

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: but also doesn't really matter. Clearly, he must have thought

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Speaker 1: that there was something that he didn't like about Comey

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: because he fired him, so finding out belatedly that he

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Speaker 1: thought he was a nut job probably shouldn't surprise anybody.

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Speaker 1: Kim Strassel, author of The Intimidation Game, How They Left

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Speaker 1: is Silencing Free Speech. Also check out her columns every

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Speaker 1: week at the Wall Street Journal, where she's on the

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Speaker 1: editorial board. Kim, thank you so much and have a

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01:09:48,920 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: great weekend. Thank you. Jonathan in where are you from? Jonathan?

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: I can't read it on the screen. I'm sorry, Jonathan.

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 1: Is that Nebraska? Yeah? That's there. We go, Jonathan, Nebraska.

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: What's up my friend? Uh? Well, I wanted to start off.

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Speaker 1: I have an action movie quote, and and there's something

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: else that I wanted to throw your away first. Okay,

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: I suppose we'll do action movie quote first. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what you got. Okay, here we go. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the guy is a used car salesman. This just keeps

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: getting better and better. This is from True Lies. When

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Speaker 1: they figure out that Bill Paxton is not in fact

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Speaker 1: and undercover agent. Yep, that's correct. What else is on

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Speaker 1: your mind? I want to ask you in an action

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Speaker 1: movie fictional history? What is significant about August twenty um

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01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: is that when the huge war starts and Terminator. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's when SKYNT becomes self away. All right, that's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: All Right. People are gonna think that I'm planting these

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Speaker 1: questions at this point, but I just pulled that one

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Speaker 1: out of thin air. Yeah that's that's got that one.

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Speaker 1: But what what I really wanted to bring up was

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Speaker 1: have I earned my black belt in in action in

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Speaker 1: action movie? Uh karate today? I hope so. I would

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Speaker 1: think so, But I honestly don't know if I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: softballs or if this was kind of a tough Hey man,

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Speaker 1: it's Friday, softball. Softballs are welcome on Friday. What else

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01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: is on your mind? Well? I was twenty miles away

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Speaker 1: when Abu Musa balzer COWI was crushed by a thousand

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Speaker 1: pounds of high explosive Curtisity of the US Air Force

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Speaker 1: And are you an army guy? Yes, thank you for service.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But one of the interesting parts when

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: you're over there, if you're watching any kind of news

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: and there's a report about what's going on, it's they

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: almost always missed the mark. And what I wanted to

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: say was, I appreciate your particular perspective on things both

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01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: domestic and internationally. Ah, you cover politics, but you also

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: get into some of the strategic and tactical parts of

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01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: of what we're all trying to do as far as

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Speaker 1: the United States goes, and and that's kind of rare,

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Speaker 1: and so I just appreciate you being able to deliver that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. That's very Connye all right. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the support. Shields high, Jonathan, thank you veryman. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service. Sir. Yeah, Look, I I sit around.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is self serving, but I'm always like, We've

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:13:03,480
Speaker 1: had so many uh, incredible brave Americans with amazing experiences,

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: uh fighting in the War on Terror, fighting for their country,

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: and yet I turn on the TV and like most

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Speaker 1: of the people that I see that are representing you know,

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Speaker 1: that that are representing the the opinions of the country

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Speaker 1: on television, and I'm like, this person's clown doesn't know

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Speaker 1: anything about anything, has no training and anything other than

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: getting makeup powdered on his or her face and lots

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: of hair spray and reading off of a prompter really, which,

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01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: by the way, our skills. But I mean at least

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01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: the prompter part of it. Uh. And you know they're

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01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: developing a persona and I understand all that, but shocking

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: how many, how few hosts I see on various channels

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Speaker 1: that have a background in something other than trying to

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: be a host. I just I don't know. I watched

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: some of these people, like, unless they're just there to

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01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: entertain me, if I'm supposed to be learning from them,

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 1: I like to learn from people who actually know something

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01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: and and have some experience in something. Now. I know

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01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: some people are on TV uh in the host roles,

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:12,440
Speaker 1: have you know, uh, legal profession experience, some have administration experience,

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 1: you know, the government. I get that, but a lot

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: a lot in the news business, It's like, so, are

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01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: you just kind of an actor who's pretending to be,

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, a smart guy who reads stuff, but we

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: all know you don't really Is that? Is that what's

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Speaker 1: going on here? I'm just asking questions, everybody. I'm just

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Speaker 1: asking questions. Interesting note I saw here in the New

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Speaker 1: York Posts we don't have enough time for I've got

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Speaker 1: quite a segment in mind for you. I want to

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01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: talk to you about why all of the criticisms about

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's personal life and behavior that it doesn't upset

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01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: conservatives more um is in part well, I'm gonna say

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: it's the left fault because of what they put forward

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: and and who they elect and who they that to

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01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: look at what Trump has done and to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's he's unthinkable. We turned around and look at the

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: people they hold up, you know. And I'm gonna get

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: into who we're talking about here and something you can

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: probably guess, but who are the elected officials are on

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01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and and they're scandals and and their

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: lack of morality. It's like I just don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear it from them. Ever, I don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: from them about how they think Trump is, you know,

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Speaker 1: odious or whatever. But I a side note. This is

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Speaker 1: a is a quick quick food for thought. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: get into this more another time. I'd love to get

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01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: some really good uh E con finance folks in the guests, right,

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: I've got great political and national security people, uh and

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: some great reporters, but I'd like to get some really

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 1: solid econ people. Something I'm thinking out loud here because

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: I look, I take suggestions from all of you all

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01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: the time. And those of you who want you just

1247
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: write me Facebook dot com, slash buck sex and send

1248
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: a message. The whole team here is on the Facebook page.

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: Everyone can see everything, and you know, sometimes other people respond,

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01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: but I'll see it too. And if you have and

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: I respond when I can, if you have an idea

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: for somebody, would be a great econ guest. I don't

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: mean like, you know, wow, lots lots break out. Now,

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01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Laugher curve. I mean no, I'm

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's get somebody on who's gonna tell us

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: what's going on. Why it feels like we're not getting ahead,

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01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: Why why there's this economic anxiety in this country that

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: seems to be getting worse, not better. And um, but

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Speaker 1: this is just this just came to me through my

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Speaker 1: own circles. In the post. It's a New York Post piece.

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Speaker 1: It says that basically Americans don't really know how to

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Speaker 1: manage money, and this is a really widespread problem. Um,

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Speaker 1: we don't save any money, We hide money from our

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Speaker 1: spouses and partners. We prioritize paying the wrong bills first.

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Speaker 1: We've wrapped up a trillion dollars in credit card debt,

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Speaker 1: and we think more about paying for our next vacation

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Speaker 1: than we do about saving for retirement. I know that's

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Speaker 1: a real quick overview, but that doesn't sound good anyway.

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Speaker 1: We'll hit that another time. But coming up here, I've

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Speaker 1: got something part you stay with me. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut on an island of liberty, where you're

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Speaker 1: the party and it's full of fellow patriots. Bucks Sexton

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Speaker 1: kicks it off. Team. The lines are open eight four Buck,

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Speaker 1: eight four four, nine hundred to eight to five. If

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Speaker 1: you would like to give a ring, great to hear

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: from you. Anthony Weiner pleads guilty to sexting with minor

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: and Whoma Abbot, and his wife has filed for divorce.

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Speaker 1: This has been an ongoing, disgusting, depressing, shocking saga for years.

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Speaker 1: Some of you may recall um well, before I get

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Speaker 1: to the origins of this, let me just talk about

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Speaker 1: what happened today. Weener is facing uh anywhere. I think

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Speaker 1: he'll he won't appeal any sentence. Between twenty and twenty

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Speaker 1: seven months in prison. So he's looking at about two

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Speaker 1: years in prison. It looks like you'll probably serve two years.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll get out early and he will ready s

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Speaker 1: as a sex offender. Ah, his life as he knew

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Speaker 1: it before is is over. Um. He clearly is uh

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Speaker 1: a sick and grotesque maniac um. And I don't there's

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Speaker 1: nothing that I can say about that that you don't

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Speaker 1: already know. I mean, there's no there's no there's no

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Speaker 1: value added for me to sit here and just talk

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Speaker 1: about what a gross weirdo he is. We all know

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Speaker 1: he's now going to federal prison, and uh, he's a

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Speaker 1: he's a registered sex offender. What I do think is

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Speaker 1: interesting though, or what I think is worthy of more

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Speaker 1: of our time, um than just talking about what what

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Speaker 1: it's it's hard to even grasp. I mean, this guy

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Speaker 1: he lost his congressional seat over this, and then try

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Speaker 1: to run for mayor and we're still doing it, and

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Speaker 1: then did it with minor, I mean with a minor.

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Speaker 1: It's just the guy is clearly, Um, I know what

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: he says, it's a sickness. I don't know if he

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Speaker 1: has a diagnosable mental illness or if he's just you know,

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: a guy who's bad. I don't know. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: I did find it fascinating some years ago, many years ago,

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Speaker 1: I remember reading a piece pardon the digression here, I'll

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Speaker 1: get back to Wiener and then what I want to

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 1: talk to you about is the politics of the depraved

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01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: politics of the left, and how if you're on the

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Speaker 1: right side of things, they'll they'll defend you and and

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Speaker 1: do everything they can for you until the very last moment,

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Speaker 1: right as long as you have utility for the left,

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01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what a sick oh you are, how many

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Speaker 1: people you hurt, and how depraved you are. If you're

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Speaker 1: useful politically to the left, they will defend you and

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Speaker 1: until they can anymore, right until you're finally locked up

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Speaker 1: and and gone. Um. But as a as a digression,

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Speaker 1: if you'll allow me, UM, I remember reading years ago,

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Speaker 1: I forget which newspaper was, about how these psychiatrists who

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Speaker 1: sit down with people who are the worst of the worst,

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Speaker 1: I mean, serial killer, serial rapists, people that have no

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Speaker 1: ability to to um and empathize with other human beings

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Speaker 1: who are not just sociopathic, but psychopathic. Sociopathic means you

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Speaker 1: don't feel a pain of you don't have any emotional

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Speaker 1: connection for the pain of others, right, um ah. And

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Speaker 1: they said that they tried to find medical explanations for

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Speaker 1: why anybody would be well psychopathic derive joy from inflicting

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Speaker 1: pain on on other people. Um And they sometimes were

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Speaker 1: left with, through long conversations and analyzes of these individuals

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Speaker 1: that were serving obviously life life sentences in prison, that

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01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: they were evil, that they that they actually were evil,

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Speaker 1: that that that was a possible on the spectrum of

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Speaker 1: what a human being, that a human can choose evil.

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Speaker 1: And we don't often talk about that because it then

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Speaker 1: start to feel biblical and Christian and or you know,

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Speaker 1: at least religious. Um and the media gets very very

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable with that, even though as a Christian we have

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Speaker 1: a choice right good and evil. We're making choices all

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Speaker 1: the time, and it is possible for a person to

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Speaker 1: have been to be overcome with that choice of evil. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: That that I always thought was interesting that that you

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Speaker 1: have these psychiatrists. By the way, psychiatrists as a profession,

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: as a part of the medical profession, are more leftist

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01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: than any other segment of medicine. Right if you want,

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, Bernie Sanders, voters, shrinks, psychiatrists, they're they're they're

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01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly gonna be left of center or far left and

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01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: if you want, you know, red blooded all American types.

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: Surgeons tend to go. Certain surgeons tend to askew conservative

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01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: awes something surgeons. There's no nonsense, and they try to

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to fix things, and they're really trying

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Speaker 1: to fix things. And that just appeals to a conservative mindset.

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Speaker 1: But I know, trive a lot of different doctors. But anyway, um,

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Speaker 1: back to the So Anthony Weiner, it's blood guilty today,

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01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: pleaded guilty, um and is going to go to prison

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: for a while and as a registered sex offender. His wife,

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Speaker 1: Huma abbod In, the closest confidante of Hillary Clinton. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is an incredible story. The closest advisor and many

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Speaker 1: would say closest friend of Hillary Clinton, who was so

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Speaker 1: close to being President of the United States. I know

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Speaker 1: she lost an election night, but you know New York

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Speaker 1: Times day of chance that Hillary is gonna be it

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Speaker 1: and she wasn't. But had she won, Whoma Aboden would

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Speaker 1: have been a special advisor to the President in the

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Speaker 1: in the White House, and her husband is not is

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Speaker 1: having these illegal never mind saying inappropriate, of course inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: but illegal exchanges with some of that he knows to

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Speaker 1: be uh underage. I mean, and it's not the first

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01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: time he's been in trouble for this stuff. You know. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is where I want to go back and you

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Speaker 1: look at the culture of leftism, because it's it's not

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Speaker 1: just Anthony Weiner and yeah, finally Weener Winner went too far.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, there there is an extent you know

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Speaker 1: what once you're in the in the category of pedophilia

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Speaker 1: or you know, uh, predator predating, predatory behavior with miners. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, no one can defend you there, right, no

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01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: no one on the Democrat Party evenings like well you know,

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Speaker 1: but with certainly with like rampant infidelity and even uh

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Speaker 1: sexual assault and um, you know, along with other stuff

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Speaker 1: going on the line. Teddy Kennedy, Bill Clinton, John Edwards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at what the left has produced, as

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Speaker 1: I'm not picking in like some you know, chief dog

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Speaker 1: catcher for the for the you know, the the city

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01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 1: of who cares. These are the these are the biggest

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Speaker 1: names in the Democratic Party. Kennedy, Clinton, and there bad

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01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: guys and they're perverts. In case of Clinton, I mean,

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01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, you can you can believe that there's a

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Speaker 1: massive conspiracy where women just get together who are otherwise

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01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: completely credible in all of their dealings in life, and

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Speaker 1: just lie about how Bill Clinton, uh, growth them sexually

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Speaker 1: assault them, you know, bite them, attack them, um use

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Speaker 1: this position of influence, you know. You know that's why.

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Speaker 1: By the way, all the stuff that we're seeing play

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Speaker 1: out right now about how oh and the jokes and

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Speaker 1: the nastiness I'm seeing from CNN about Fox News, I

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01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: think some of these other news organizations they might want

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01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: to watch out because the whole male female dynamic that

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01:24:54,240 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: can play out in sexual harassment ways is not limited

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Speaker 1: to Fox News. That I can say, and I know

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Speaker 1: because I've been told stories about other places, because I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of the younger folks in this business.

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01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Because of my age, you know, if you're a TV pundit,

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01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: especially if you're a concern well, if you're a conservative, certainly,

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: but in general, because of my time at CNN, if

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Speaker 1: you're a TV pundit under forty, it's a good chance

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01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: I know either I know you directly or I know

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01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: someone who knows you and those I know directly tell

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01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: me things, and I hear things. And there's more than

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Speaker 1: just Fox News that's got that's got these problems that

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01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name any specific places, but it's

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Speaker 1: just not it's not just a problem with Fox News,

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Speaker 1: all right, But back to the culture the Democratic Party here.

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Speaker 1: You know, Anthony Weiner was a congressman. Okay, because they

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: buck there's a lot of congressman Fine, but I think

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Speaker 1: Weener was married to one of the most you could argue,

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01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: I think, without much of a stretch, one of the

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Speaker 1: most powerful women in the Democratic Party. I mean whom

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Speaker 1: a Abbott and closest, closest confidenza you know, whom Abodin

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Speaker 1: was to Hillary Clinton? What Karl Rove you know, or

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: would have been to Hillary Clinton? Mcarl Rove was there,

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01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: George Bush, you can tell me this isn't somebody who

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01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 1: has tremendous influence and would have had tremendous influence and administration.

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01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: So and so he's right there at the seat of

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Speaker 1: power in the Democratic Party. And you go back to

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01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: the beginning. By the way, and Andrew Breitbart may rest

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01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: in peace. One of the people who was um I

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01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: never knew him either. I never got a chance to

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: meet him much too much to my regret, um, but

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01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: one of the people that inspired me to get involved

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01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: in conservative media. Actually I saw the stuff he's doing.

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01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy, this guy is fearless and

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01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: he's having fun while he's making the arguments. I love it. Uh.

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01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: But he was one of the ones originally that made

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Speaker 1: the case about Anthony Weiner and the left when after

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01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 1: bright Bart, of course, you know, oh it's all a lie.

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01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, bright Bart's approven liar, he's lied, He's all

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01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: this bad stuff. Uh. And it's amazing when you go

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Speaker 1: back it was back in. You go back and you

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01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: will read uh, you know, here's CNN Jeffrey Tuban who

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Speaker 1: also recently. I mean, the fact this guy's a legal

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: anist at CNN is a joke. But anyway, in Wieners,

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Speaker 1: this is a quote back in twenty eleven on Anderson

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Speaker 1: Cooper Show. In Wiener's defense, I think we do need

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01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,440
Speaker 1: to point out that the person behind this was Andrew Breitbart,

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01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: who has a practice of targeting Democrats Shirley Sharad most

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01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: notoriously of all, and his stories tend to fall apart

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01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: on close inspection story in fall Apart, and I now

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: I by the way I've I'm I'm gonna watch it.

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: If not this weekends, I gotta watch this Weener documentary

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01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: because I've heard it's excellent. I know the story, but

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: I want to watch this documentary because this guy is

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01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:51,480
Speaker 1: sending photos of his male area to strangers as a congressman,

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01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 1: loses his congressional seat at first, didn't want to reside,

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01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: and then comes back and thinks he's gonna be mayor

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01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 1: of New York, which, yeah, you're only the mayor, but

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01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: you're the mayor a city of eight million people, the

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01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: most important city in the country and arguing the most

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Speaker 1: important city in the world. It's actually a big job.

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Speaker 1: And thought he was a serious candidate for it, and

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01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: had some real Democrats that were going to back him

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Speaker 1: in this, and they all were defending him initially, even

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Speaker 1: when this first stuff came out. Oh no, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a smear job, you know, bride

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01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: bart and everything else. And you know, then we went

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Speaker 1: through the whole Carlos Danger era where this guy had

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Speaker 1: a pseudonym and he was doing this stuff, and then

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Speaker 1: finally he you know if he hadn't will I will

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01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 1: make this prediction. If he had not made the egregious

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Speaker 1: and unforgivable error of um illegal conduct with a minor,

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Speaker 1: I think I think the Democrats he he would have made,

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Speaker 1: he would have been able to make some kind of

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Speaker 1: a comeback. Look at Elliot Spitzer on CNN. Elliot Spitzer

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01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: was the state Attorney General for New York and then

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01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: becomes a governor of New York, well known and for

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01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: prosecuting people by the way, for uh, paying money to prostitutes,

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01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: and himself is seeing prostitutes and is just just grotesque

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01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: human being from everything that I can see, and was

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01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: terrible on TV. I should note as well, horrible and

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: then gave him a TV show. Yeah, I'm telling if

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Wiener isn't convicted of of, you know, sending obscenity

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01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,799
Speaker 1: and he's obscene an exchange with a minor, he's probably

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01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: gonna he probably would have gotten a show on MSNBC

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01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: at some point. I don't think that's I don't think

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01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: that's an overstatement. Because the Left is comfortable with depravity

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01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: as long as it serves a political purpose. That's the

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01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: that's the overarching theme I'm trying to get out here.

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01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Look at John Edwards. John Edwards, Now we all forget all,

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01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: you know whatever, He's just some guy. John Edwards was

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01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: a VP candidate. John Edwards was a serious Democrat candidate

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01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 1: for the presidency. At one point he was like number

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01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,480
Speaker 1: two in the polls. And you know, here's a guy

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01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: who when caught, he's a he's a lawyer. And when

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01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: he's caught, he's going on TV and making it much worse.

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01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I will never forget. I was in the gym,

1494
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I was watching the TV and he goes on. He

1495
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: says that he cheated on his he cheated on his

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01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: wife while she had cancer. Granted, you know his wife

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01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: and his children. He cheating his wife, but but she

1498
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 1: was in remission when he when he cheated on her. Well,

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01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: in that case, John Edwards, we should clearly you know,

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01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: you're your commander in chief material. I mean, but by

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01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: the way, you go back and you learn about his cases,

1502
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 1: and you learn about how this guy built his career

1503
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: and the kinds of emotional and psychological manipulation and just

1504
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: the sliminess of John Edwards, and and it's none of

1505
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 1: its surprising, but Democrats were holding this guy, but he

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01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: should be the president United States. That a lot of

1507
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: them wanted him to be the president. He was vice

1508
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: presidential candidate for Carrie So. And then you get Teddy Kennedy,

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01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: who you know, I don't know. This is my my parents, generation,

1510
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: my my I wish my I could make my parents

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01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: appear here and they would just start talking about Teddy

1512
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Kennedy and they know his stuff much better than I do.

1513
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I know that he was having

1514
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 1: an affair with the woman and drove off a bridge

1515
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: at chap Aquittic and she drowned. How how do you

1516
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: how do you get up out of bed after that?

1517
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: As a man, You're you're you're intimately involved with someone great.

1518
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: You know it's an affair, but you're intimately involved with

1519
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: someone and you drive off a bridge and she slowly

1520
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: drowns in the car, and you you're worried about going

1521
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: to establish an alibi somewhere else. And then the Democrats

1522
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: call you the lion of the Senate and you're part

1523
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: of this political dynasty and we're all supposed to bow

1524
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: and genuflect to the Kennedy's. I mean, it makes me

1525
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: want to want to spit on the street and start cursing.

1526
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 1: You've gotta be kidding me, Clinton, Kennedy, Edwards and now

1527
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: Carlos danger A k Anthony Weiner. You see, this is

1528
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: systemic on the left because it really is a political ideology.

1529
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: It's it's a political grouping whereby the achievement of power

1530
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: is everything and if you are us full to that purpose,

1531
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: whatever you are as a human being, and whatever you do,

1532
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: whatever kind of depravity and immorality, unless you're gonna get

1533
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: convicted of a felony, then they got to back off

1534
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: and anything up to that. And look at Teddy Kennedy,

1535
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,719
Speaker 1: he didn't ge conicted of anything somehow. But it's different,

1536
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, between Democrats and Republicans. It is just different.

1537
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: It's a different way of thinking. It's different between the parties.

1538
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: And people talk about Trump and they're like, oh, he's

1539
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's explicit when he talks about women off camera.

1540
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, Trump hasn't done anything the same stratosphere as

1541
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: these Democrats, not in the same universe. We'll be right back.

1542
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: Oh m G. Turn on the duncan cheek throwing a

1543
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: VHS of friends and put on that oversized flannel shirt,

1544
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: my friends, Zema which I mentioned yesterday just randomly, Zima

1545
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: the alcoholic beverage, beverage that tastes kind of like like

1546
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: sprite that's got a little sour uh is making a comeback. Um.

1547
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this online now. This is on Delici dot com,

1548
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: which I hope is a real side. I don't know, um,

1549
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: but it's saying that zeema is going to come back.

1550
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Is that even really possible? Yeah, that they're saying, they're

1551
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: saying that there will be zema again. I know some

1552
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: people like, why are you Why are you talking about

1553
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: a spritzer that's from the nineties that none of us

1554
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 1: drank anyway? Really some of us remember, okay some of

1555
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 1: us maybe we were just kind of figuring out, you know,

1556
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 1: the drinking situation. Maybe we'd have a little wine cler

1557
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'd have a zema, you know, just just

1558
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: because why not dependents? Maybe go to home depot. I

1559
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: don't know if we had enough time. Scott and Florida

1560
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: w FLF. What's up, Scott, hi Buck, We love we

1561
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: love your show down here man, thank you. So hey,

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01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: we're heating the media, man, I'll pay an attention not

1563
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: watching it anymore. We used to watch it for kicks

1564
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: and laughs, you know, but it became uncomical. It's not funny.

1565
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: And what's to Yeah you can, I can. I I

1566
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: want to hear what you have to say. And I

1567
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: want you to stay with me for a second. Just

1568
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: just as as an aside, you see this Harvard a

1569
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: study from Harvard came out saying that of media, eighty

1570
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: percent of media coverage of Donald Trump has been negative.

1571
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: It's from Harvard. Yeah, we quit it, man, We're just clear.

1572
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: All you have watching that are rock hard progressive liberals.

1573
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: We're not. Yeah, we can't watch it. Man. You equip

1574
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 1: me and funny they really did. Yeah, I hear you.

1575
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we're hating media. Anthony Winner turning himself this

1576
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: morning in it was great. Uh, it was great hard

1577
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: on the radio, you know, and he was really he

1578
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: was an attack dog on the left, Scott. I mean,

1579
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: he was the guy who really made his name going

1580
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: on TV and being nasty to people, you know, really

1581
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: being snyde and undermining to people. So there's a lot

1582
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: of schadenfreuder right now, the little the little iron of

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01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: the Senate. Yeah, well there we go, Scott, Thanks for

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01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: calling him and shield shields. I appreciate it. Um uh. Anyway, Yeah,

1585
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: Teddy Kennedy the line of the Senate, it's horrible, It's terrible. Um.

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01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 1: We got Tommy in Ohio on the line. What's up, Tommy? Hey,

1587
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,719
Speaker 1: Tommy there? Yes, I am Buck. How are you doing?

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01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? We got about a minute,

1589
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: but I want to get you in Okay, Hey first off,

1590
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: shield tie, Hey Buck, you have reignited my passion for

1591
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: learning history. I love reading about history. I love dudes

1592
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 1: that I'm and I love holding an actual book in

1593
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: my hand. A couple of shows. Yeah, I think that

1594
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: was from your show on Tuesday. I talked about actual Yes.

1595
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 1: And I also want to say that I completely agree

1596
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: with Shaun Smith. I think that was from the Federalist.

1597
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: Is that his name? Sean Davis? Oh, Sean Davis. Okay,

1598
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting my bed on this at all. I

1599
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 1: think this is a waste of time. I think it's

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01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: a waste of taxpayer of money. And I'm ready to

1601
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: move forward. Yeah, man, me me too. Media is definitely

1602
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: not the Trump has gone and they're they're they're still

1603
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: in the frenzy. Um, Tommy, we're at time man, but

1604
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: shields h I have a great weekend, and thank you

1605
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: very much for calling in. Guys. Let's talk about North

1606
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Korea hack in the world, possibly the allegations about that,

1607
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: the news reports about that, and then some closing thoughts

1608
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: for the show. Stay with me. I'll you're right back.

1609
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: The Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out

1610
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: with Team Buck any time. Plus can plus the latest

1611
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: news and analysis stow to Buck Sexton dot com. That's

1612
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton dot com. The Buck is back. It was

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01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: just days ago that the news broke of a massive

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01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: hack around the globe. Reportedly three hundred thousand comp shooters

1615
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: in a hundred and fifty countries held for ransom, and

1616
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:08,440
Speaker 1: it crippled several European companies and hospitals in the United Kingdom.

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01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: People were immediately wondering who could be behind such a

1618
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: massive cyber attack. Well, according to Fox News, here might

1619
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: want to look at North Korea's hacker army UH to

1620
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: help us look at this. Now, we've got Gordon Chang.

1621
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: He's author of the Coming Collapse of China and Nuclear

1622
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: Showdown North Korea takes on the World. Gordon, great to

1623
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: have you. Thank you so much. Buck so Gordon in

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01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: American pop culture right now, when people think of North Korea,

1625
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 1: they often make jokes about how, you know, they've just

1626
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: discovered their new military technology of VHS tapes, or you know,

1627
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: there are only four people who have the Internet, or

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01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: so it seems counterintuitive that North Korea could conceivably be

1629
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: behind such a massive global hacking operation. But in fact,

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01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the North does have some very serious cyber capabilities. What

1631
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: can you tell us about them? Yeah, the most important thing,

1632
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: but is that, of course North Korea is isolated, has

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01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: very few Internet links, which means that it's hackers are

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01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: based elsewhere, many of them of course in China. And

1635
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 1: so what we have to do is look not only

1636
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: at North Korea, which seems to be implicated in these

1637
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: want to Cry attacks, but also the countries where North

1638
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: Korea has based its hackers. And when we do that,

1639
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: of course we've got to look at at China. Um.

1640
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: We have a real suspicion that the attacks on Sony

1641
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: Pitchers Entertainment in two thousand fourteen were in fact launched

1642
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: by North Korean hackers in China. And probably when we

1643
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 1: look at these want to Cry um attacks, um, probably

1644
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: the Chinese were implicated in some way as well. And

1645
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about this group, if anything

1646
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:53,879
Speaker 1: that is mentioned here in this Fox piece that experts

1647
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: have previously attributed some North some of North Korea's alled

1648
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: cyber exploits to a group of highly trained cybers buys

1649
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 1: known as Bureau one to one, a group that Reuters

1650
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: has previously described as a handpick, pampered elite. What's going

1651
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 1: on here, Well, North Korea takes as smartest kids, trains

1652
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: them in cyber attacks, and then UM sends them to

1653
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: both China and Russia to get refinements to get learned more.

1654
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: And then these folks are based in a number of

1655
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: different countries UM, including Russia and China, and from where

1656
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 1: they do launch attacks on the rest of the world China.

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01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: North Korea needs to do this because its Internet links

1658
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: just are not big enough and robust enough and are

1659
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: too easily traceable, and so therefore the North Koreans need

1660
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: to put their hackers elsewhere, and the Chinese and the

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01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: Russians are too happy to are too big, They're they're

1662
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 1: just willing to let this happen. Yeah, I was good.

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01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: That was the next question we're asking Gordon, why, why

1664
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: would Russia and China take the possible risk of of

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01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: housing or even just turning a blonde and I to

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01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: these hacking groups that are getting international headlines. Well, the

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01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: Chinese support North Korea. They support them across the board.

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01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, we see this not only from a trade

1669
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: supplying oil on concessionary terms, supporting them diplomatically. UM, Beijing

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01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: get some very important short term advantages from the North Koreans,

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01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: and so UM, it shouldn't be a surprise that China

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01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: they allows the North Koreans to launch cyber attacks against

1673
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: the world, especially the United States, from Chinese soil. You know,

1674
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 1: Chinese President sie Jimping, like Hujin Tao, the leader before him,

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01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: have identified the United States as North as China's primary

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Speaker 1: strategic adversary. So you know, they're going to help the

1677
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: North Koreans attack US. And we've got to understand that. UM.

1678
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: In the Sony Pictures attacks, we said, look, they come

1679
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: from North Korea, but the Chinese are not involved. That

1680
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: was really wrong for our government to do that, to

1681
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: make that pronouncement. And we're not going to stop North

1682
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: Korean attacks on the United States and elsewhere until we

1683
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: have some realistic conversations with both the Chinese and the Russians.

1684
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: So yes, the North Koreans are villains, the Chinese are villains,

1685
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: the Russians are villains. But our leadership has permitted this

1686
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: to occur, and the American people should be angry and

1687
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: upset at this. Speaking of Gordon Chang, author of the

1688
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: Coming Collapse of China and nuclear Showdown North Korea takes

1689
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: on the world, Gordon, what do you think would be

1690
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: appropriate countermeasures? What are the kinds of policies that would

1691
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: be worth at least considering, if not openly pursuing, or

1692
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: maybe not openly but but pursuing for the United States

1693
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 1: government in order to deal with this hacking that can

1694
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: come from a number of places, you say, a number

1695
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: of different adversaries on behalf of North Korea. Well, the

1696
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: United States needs to consider UM imposing costs on on

1697
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Beijing and on Moscow for this UM the Commission on

1698
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: Intellectual Property in May two thousand thirteen, the Blair Huntsman

1699
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 1: Commission UM actually talked about imposing tara of sound on

1700
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 1: Chinese and Chinese goods UM because of China's cyber attacks

1701
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 1: on the United States, and we should consider cyber attacks

1702
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: that are launched on Chinese soil, even if they come

1703
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 1: from North Korean's as are launched by China. You know,

1704
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: China has the Great Firewall, the most sophisticated set of

1705
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Internet controls. The Chinese can see everything that goes across

1706
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: that Great Firewall, both going out and coming back in.

1707
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: And when the North Korean's exfil trade hundreds of terrabytes

1708
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: of data, you know they can see that in Beijing.

1709
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: So they're complicit, and we should consider imposing those costs

1710
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: on China. Where it hurts, you gonna hurt us. It's

1711
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna hurt us. But but nonetheless, we cannot allow the

1712
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: Chinese to continue attacking American institutions and institutions of our

1713
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 1: friends and allies and not impose costs on China for

1714
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: doing so. Gordon, do you see any change in the

1715
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: any any actual change yet in the posture of this

1716
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: administration visa of each China and North Korea. There was

1717
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 1: a lot of headlines about North Korea last month or so. Uh.

1718
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 1: People were really concerned about the missile program, the nuclear

1719
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: capability of North Korea. We know that there was discussion

1720
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 1: about Trump trying to get China to be more helpful

1721
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: in that process, has anything that we can point to

1722
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: change or is it maybe just a tonal shift? So far, well,

1723
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 1: President Trump has said that he's relying on China to

1724
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: disarm North Korea, and and Trump has been very explicit

1725
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: about his strategy. He said he's not going to declare

1726
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: China a currency manipulator, something that he promised to do

1727
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: during the campaign. He said that he's going to give

1728
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: China an easier trade deal. And by the way, the

1729
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: trade deal that was announced by the Commerce Department last Thursday,

1730
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: which was supposed to reduce America's trade deficit with China,

1731
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 1: might actually increase that trade deficit. So clearly the Trump

1732
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 1: administration is giving China a lot of free passes. Also,

1733
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: we see this in the South China seat where there's

1734
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: been no Freedom of Navigation UM operations since the Trump

1735
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: since Trump took office. So you know, what we have

1736
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: seen is less resolute policies on China across the board

1737
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: UM and the hope that Beijing will help on North Korea.

1738
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: One can argue with this strategy, I don't think it's

1739
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: a good one. If it works, that's great, but if

1740
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 1: it doesn't, this could turn out to be a debacle

1741
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,719
Speaker 1: for the United States unless the President pivots and start

1742
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: imposing costs on China for behavior which is intended to

1743
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: undermine the United States. We're speaking to author and policy

1744
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: expert Gordon Chang. You can read his latest at Gordon

1745
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: Chang dot com. Gordon, great to have you, sir. Have

1746
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend. Thank you, Buck team. We are going

1747
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: to go into a break here. You're gonna switch up

1748
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:44,719
Speaker 1: topics eight four to eight to five eight four four Buck,

1749
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 1: Welcome back team. So this week is is you know

1750
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: Roger Rails passed away And I guess we we shouldn't

1751
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: be surprised at all when this stuff happens, because our

1752
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 1: discourse has become so course that people now feel like

1753
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: they can just say anything, and that there's there's no

1754
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 1: sense of decorum or decency to be observed at all. Um,

1755
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 1: this notion of look, I understand, don't speak ill of

1756
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: the dead. I mean, how long is that the case for? To?

1757
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: But do you think that a normal, uh, functional and

1758
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 1: emotionally intact human being might not feel the urge to

1759
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: immediately say the most And when I say say, I'm

1760
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 1: talking about to you know, your family in the kitchen

1761
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: or you know, to to your friends over a beer.

1762
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean to blast out to to try and put

1763
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: out a a widespread narrative of destruction, about a person

1764
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: right to really engage in character assassination of somebody who's

1765
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 1: already dead. As I said to you yesterday, I don't

1766
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: know Roger, and I did not know Roger Ales at all,

1767
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 1: met him once for a thirty seconds. Um. But to

1768
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: see what's out there. I can't even repeat a lot

1769
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: of it to you because it's so it's so graphic,

1770
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: and you know this is a family friendly show. I

1771
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 1: am amazed at how distasteful and how reprehensible. And I'm

1772
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: not talking about you know, I don't spend time focusing

1773
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: on random Internet rolls the commentary about that. That doesn't matter.

1774
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: You'll always find somebody who has, uh, you know, a

1775
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: sock puppet account somewhere, or who's you know, got just

1776
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 1: a photo of some strange object, who's gonna say the

1777
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: most vicious, hateful stuff. I think that for people of

1778
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: of a certain uh, of a really sad and pathetic existence, Uh,

1779
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: it's a form of it's a catharsis, it's it's a

1780
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: form of working out their problems by just unleashing the

1781
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 1: most nash, stee and vile stuff they can possibly conjure. Uh,

1782
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 1: it makes them feel a little better about themselves. There's

1783
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: that fascinating Uh social study that or sociology? Was it sociology?

1784
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: No psychology? Pardon me, sociology, sociology, Come on, sociology. I

1785
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: took a sociology class in college. I was like, I

1786
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: can't believe this is a class. But psychology, which sometimes

1787
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: is not much better than sociology, not gonna lie, it

1788
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:31,480
Speaker 1: can be, but not always. Uh, there's a psychology psychological

1789
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 1: studies showing that bullies do benefit from bullying. We're always

1790
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: told that a bully is insecure and if you, uh,

1791
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: you know that that that if you reach out to

1792
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: them and you know that there's a way to to

1793
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: get around. No, bullying is a form of predatory behavior

1794
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: that makes the predator feel better about himself for herself, right,

1795
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: But bullying does boost the self esteem of the bully. Um.

1796
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I also do think that in a lot of cases, uh,

1797
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: talking back to the bully, maybe even throwing throwing a

1798
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: shot at the bullies nose might not be a bad idea.

1799
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want to even get any

1800
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: trouble over that. So uh, you know, when your kid

1801
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: growing up on the schoolyard, you you got to make

1802
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: your own decisions about this stuff. But you know, occasionally, um,

1803
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: I remember some guy tried to bully me once a

1804
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: long time ago, and uh, I got on with a

1805
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,759
Speaker 1: It was one of the great things about my grammar

1806
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: schools we had was required to have wrestling, and I

1807
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: did a program growing up as well, which wrestling is

1808
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: essentially grappling. A lot of people are so into mm

1809
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 1: A now. In fact, some of the greats in mixed

1810
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: martial arts have a background in in wrestling. I don't

1811
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 1: mean w E wrestling. I mean, you know, competitive Olympic wrestling,

1812
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: but wrestling is is a very good basis for grappling.

1813
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: But I also did a program that was boxing and

1814
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 1: judo growing up. It was once a week every week

1815
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: for for for years, which it's a good thing. I

1816
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,040
Speaker 1: think every kid should be. Every kid should be. I

1817
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,680
Speaker 1: was gonna say every young guy, but you know, I

1818
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 1: don't want to be part of the patriarchy. So if

1819
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: girls want to learn how to punch people, that's that's

1820
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 1: cool too, um, but everyone should learn. Everyone should learn

1821
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: how to throw a punch, and everybody should learn how

1822
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: to handle themselves in a grappling situation, because most uh scraps,

1823
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: most fights turn into some form of grappling, at least

1824
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: all the ones that I've seen, and I'm not talking

1825
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 1: about an octagon, I mean out on the street in

1826
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 1: a bar. I've seen my fair share of of nasty scuffles.

1827
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: And it's never a it's never a spinning fly kick

1828
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: to the temple, and you know, it's never a Vandam

1829
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: movie that I do know. Uh. In fact, the only

1830
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: thing that reminds me of two humans who are actually

1831
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: fighting is when you've if you've ever seen, which is

1832
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: also very disquieting and upsetting, two dogs who go after

1833
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: each other. There's something you immediately know when they're not

1834
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: playing with each other. You immediately can tell that no,

1835
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: this is they're trying to hurt each other, and there's

1836
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: just a different ferocity in the movement and the energy.

1837
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: And any of you who have a dog know exactly

1838
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, because you know you can see it.

1839
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: You know, I know people they're like, yeah, you know,

1840
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: my my bees on freeze, which is like one of

1841
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: the most get a little fruit fruit dogs imaginable. Uh yeah,

1842
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: that's right. That's up there with a Halvenise, I'll say it.

1843
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: I'll say that's right, Havenise owners. Your dog is nice.

1844
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I love all dogs, but it's a little froufruf. But

1845
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: either they'll it'll be playing with a Rottweiler and even

1846
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: though there would be a little ober and you know

1847
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 1: they'll be they can tell that the dogs are. I mean,

1848
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: it can go bad quickly, but generally you can tell

1849
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 1: when the dogs are playing or even rough housing versus

1850
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: when it's like trying to hurt each other. And when

1851
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: you see dogs do that and you see actually people

1852
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: doing that, I find that there's a similar energy and

1853
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: a similar uh intensity, a similar frenzy in the movement.

1854
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: And just you know, right, how am I talking about

1855
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: fighting instead of Oh? Also with with my brothers last

1856
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: week had a um a really interesting discussion based on

1857
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: some viral video that went around about martial arts. And

1858
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 1: you have a guy who's a tai chi master. I

1859
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: don't need this video might be ten years old for

1860
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 1: all I know, but you know, my others I saw it.

1861
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 1: You have a Thai chie master who's going up against

1862
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: a mixed martial artist, and the mixed martial artist takes

1863
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: takes him out very quickly, and it's kind of sad.

1864
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Thai chee guy. Um, But

1865
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 1: that's on this on the spectrum I've always found, and

1866
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: this is as an observer and as an analyst, not

1867
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 1: somebody who pretends to be a martial artist or a

1868
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: trained fighter, because I'm neither of those things. I've done

1869
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 1: some martial arts, but in a in a very in

1870
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: a dilettante fashion, right, I mean I I can throw

1871
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: a punch and I'd really rather not take a punch.

1872
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: That's kind of where I put myself. Um. But in

1873
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: the spectrum, someone who's training in martial arts, not m

1874
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: m A, but general martial arts will beat people. This

1875
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: is what I was talking to my brothers about. This

1876
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 1: was my my sense of it. Will beat somebody in

1877
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: a confrontation, all other things being equal, because you never

1878
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in a fight. But we'll

1879
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: beat somebody who is all completely untrained. So you know,

1880
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 1: if you've been doing tae kwondo for five or six

1881
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 1: years and you know I have some sense of of that,

1882
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: you're going to be better off again, strength and speed.

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Speaker 1: You have to equalize these things, right, You have to

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Speaker 1: take these things into account. Physics matters in a fight.

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Speaker 1: But training helps against the untrained, even in a martial

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Speaker 1: art that's not necessarily uh always applicable. Um, but people

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Speaker 1: who trained to fight, meaning boxers, mixed martial artists, people

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Speaker 1: who actually trained for combat, are generally going to be

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Speaker 1: able to in my in my estimation and and in

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Speaker 1: my experience from watching these things play out, take take

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Speaker 1: down somebody who uh you know has been studying like

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Speaker 1: capawara or savat or uh Pencock's pen Pencock's a lot,

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Speaker 1: or you know any number of other martial arts that

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Speaker 1: are are out there. Um. So I think that's the

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Speaker 1: Filipino stick fighting. I think I might. I might have

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Speaker 1: gotten that one wrong. See, like I said, I don't

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Speaker 1: know this stuff that well. Um oh yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how we got to do martial arts talk here.

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Speaker 1: It's late in the show, folks, So things just kind

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Speaker 1: of happen. You If you have any thoughts on this

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Speaker 1: Facebook cam slash Buck Sexton on the untrained versus martial

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Speaker 1: arts train versus combat fighting trained, Uh, if you think

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Speaker 1: that spectrum is is generally fair. Look, somebody who you

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Speaker 1: know bench presses three fifty pounds runs a five six

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Speaker 1: forty yard dash, and you know, and and and eats

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Speaker 1: his eats his wheatie, so to speak. It's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: I don't care, you know, whether you have a brown

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Speaker 1: belt or it doesn't matter, right, but all other things

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Speaker 1: being equal, I think that's how I would I would

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Speaker 1: break a lot of stuff down. Um, I got into bullies.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. This is one of the rare

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Speaker 1: occasions where I'm just you know, it's Friday and I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy to be hanging out and about to be

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Speaker 1: heading off for my weekend that I've I've lost my

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Speaker 1: train of thought. Oh yeah, people being mean about Roger

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Speaker 1: Ailes um and and internet bullies. Uh, it's distressing. It

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Speaker 1: makes me want to pull away from from the internet.

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Speaker 1: And I don't just mean as somebody who does this professionally, right,

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Speaker 1: I have to engage in social media as a as

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Speaker 1: a function on my job. Um. But it's it's a

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Speaker 1: real momentary on where we are now as a culture.

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Speaker 1: That a man can pass away unexpectedly and the pylon

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Speaker 1: and he hasn't done anything to these people else. These

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Speaker 1: aren't his personal enemies. He's just people that don't like

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Speaker 1: Fox News saying horrible stuff about him. And he's got

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Speaker 1: a wife and a young kid horrible things about him.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I don't like to just go on

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Speaker 1: radio and sound like I'm the I'm the you know,

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Speaker 1: the happy Camp councilor just tells everybody that we all

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Speaker 1: need to be friends. But you know, decency is important

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Speaker 1: and kindness is our first obligation. And some of these

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Speaker 1: people in media, I just wish there were I do

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Speaker 1: wish their economic consequences for them. I wish that there.

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Speaker 1: I wish that real nastiness and meanness would be punished

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Speaker 1: in the marketplace and the people who are huge jerks

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Speaker 1: would lose out financially, because that's what should happen anyway, Team,

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