Speaker 1: Hi, guys, it's Sammy Jay. For today's episode, we have
Speaker 1: Liza Cachy as a guest on my podcast, and I
Speaker 1: am so honored because I've been a fan of hers
Speaker 1: for so long. We spoke on the day her YouTube
Speaker 1: show Lies on Demand got picked up for season three.
Speaker 1: Our conversation covered everything from the importance of the election,
Speaker 1: the biggest misconceptions about her breaking up in the public eye,
Speaker 1: crossing over into mainstream media, our love over Zacha Evron,
Speaker 1: and so much more. I cannot wait for you to
Speaker 1: listen to this episode. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to hear your feedback. Liza. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited that you're on my podcast and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to be on here. Dude. Congratulations, Thank you. The life
Speaker 1: you're living you've barely lived in and you've done so much,
Speaker 1: So that's congrats to you. Well, I've been watching you
Speaker 1: for years. Um. Yeah, Actually, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: a lot of things with you. I'm talking about Lies
Speaker 1: on Demand season two. First, it is hysterical. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I think it is. Thank you. It's even better than
Speaker 1: season one. Thank you. Okay, See, that's all we want
Speaker 1: is just room for improvement. It's improving that room and
Speaker 1: we've improved. So thank you. What are you most proud
Speaker 1: of that? I'm telling I'm really honestly most proud of
Speaker 1: the fact that I got season three today. So yeah, today,
Speaker 1: literally they just announced it on my panel that there's
Speaker 1: the season three and that. Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm
Speaker 1: so like, I can I'm glowing. You can't see me
Speaker 1: because it's a podcast. Oh wait, there's a little visual,
Speaker 1: a little visual, there's just dress um. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: came out today season three. Season two was amazing and
Speaker 1: so you saw that improvement. Season three is going to
Speaker 1: get even better. And that's a guarantee and a promise
Speaker 1: I will keep and a threat. Alright, any ideas what
Speaker 1: you want to happen for season three? Directing again? I
Speaker 1: directed in season two, and directing again would be amazing.
Speaker 1: It was tough, but it was really fun challenge I
Speaker 1: was willing to accept. Again, Well, I find it really
Speaker 1: interesting because you created all your own content independently and
Speaker 1: then you're creating a show. What was that process like
Speaker 1: from doing something so isolating and then with a group
Speaker 1: of people, right, thank you for acknowledging that was very ling.
Speaker 1: I was on my own four years, like directing myself,
Speaker 1: which I didn't realize that's what I was doing. So
Speaker 1: I was directing, editing obviously it was very aware of that.
Speaker 1: That took hours and days, but like filming myself, you know,
Speaker 1: creating these characters, scripting those characters, giving them personality trades,
Speaker 1: and then bringing them to life like that's I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that I was acting until I got onto a
Speaker 1: set and was told action and did something that felt
Speaker 1: very familiar with, like I've been doing this. As weird
Speaker 1: as that is, like you would think, okay, girl, you
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. You're being intentional about it. But
Speaker 1: it was odd enough that I didn't really realize until
Speaker 1: I got into a whole new environment with a lot
Speaker 1: of people looking that I wasn't used to them looking,
Speaker 1: and I was able to do it. Still, how did
Speaker 1: you develop those characters? How did you come up with
Speaker 1: the idea for you know, Jet and Hell? That right?
Speaker 1: Those are the classics. Classics. Man, oh thanks, so I
Speaker 1: told you I've been watching what you have. They say, hello,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just made my day. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I missed them too. Um they are on vacation I've
Speaker 1: been on vacation for a while. Um, but yeah, we've
Speaker 1: made Liza on Demand without them, and maybe they'll show
Speaker 1: up in season three. I don't know, I think they should. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well you could be in season three too.
Speaker 1: We'll talk down parents after this. Um, just to move
Speaker 1: to California that anyways, we're gonna make this happen. Liza
Speaker 1: is on my side and this they're laughing. You can't
Speaker 1: hear them because they're not miked, but we got them.
Speaker 1: Oh and now she has a butter knife to her chest.
Speaker 1: We're we're a Tables fan. Um. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: it was wild to step into the role of Liza,
Speaker 1: a different version of Liza on Liza on Demand, and
Speaker 1: be this version of myself that isn't me but is me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's yeah, it's weird, it's it's She's okay.
Speaker 1: So Liza Man is basically she's employed by her phone, right,
Speaker 1: which is what not too dissimilar to how I started
Speaker 1: was being employed. But good old Vine, good old baby.
Speaker 1: We got TikTok now do youse TikTok? I do? I
Speaker 1: use it to upload like my old videos that went
Speaker 1: on my Instagram stories and was only there for like
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and then I was like, that is smart.
Speaker 1: We need to put it up there permanently. And yeah,
Speaker 1: a place to go Oh wow, that is smart. I
Speaker 1: haven't I haven't gone down the TikTok hole of making them,
Speaker 1: but I've gone down watch. It's dangerous. It's very dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's a huge time sucker. It's good though, that's good fun.
Speaker 1: And they have tutorials too, so you can want to
Speaker 1: them how to do things. Yeah. I just love for TikTok.
Speaker 1: I just like the funny ones, like you know how
Speaker 1: like the skits because it reminds me of Vine mine,
Speaker 1: but it's longer. It's like what sconds I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I just enjoy it. We did We talk about TikTok
Speaker 1: for thirty seconds enough for them to consider this a plug,
Speaker 1: maybe a future sponsor. Question mark Smart, Well, since your
Speaker 1: YouTube channel has been what really skyrocket? Did you besides Vine?
Speaker 1: What was that like when you realize, oh wait, I
Speaker 1: want to cross over into mainstream? Into mainstream? Good question.
Speaker 1: A lot of people ask about the transition this kid.
Speaker 1: People ask about the transition from Vine into YouTube or
Speaker 1: like longer form content from sure to long form um
Speaker 1: mainstream though, because that's the challenge in itself to go
Speaker 1: to have like you're very unique in that you have
Speaker 1: that you can do that six second content, but then
Speaker 1: you can also do hosting the met Galla Red Carpet
Speaker 1: like black Out every time. I literally don't remember doing that,
Speaker 1: so thank you for reminding me of UM. But it
Speaker 1: is a wild experience to like all of a sudden
Speaker 1: be um, you know, on a platform and talking to
Speaker 1: all these people that have admired for years and years
Speaker 1: and years, which is what what you do. And you
Speaker 1: have the utmost bravery and utmost unapologetic attitude about all things.
Speaker 1: So thanks for hosting the met Galla Red Carpet. You know,
Speaker 1: after I get lart um, I'll say something and annimal
Speaker 1: let me go, but cancel culture as opposing UM. But
Speaker 1: but essentially, like I don't know, it's just a very
Speaker 1: similar feeling was induced for me personally of being able
Speaker 1: to perform in my own living room but then also
Speaker 1: on a set, but then also on a podium while
Speaker 1: narrating Lady Gaga removing eight dresses for the gala UM
Speaker 1: and it's just I love I love doing it all
Speaker 1: and it's really fun and I love challenging myself in
Speaker 1: different ways that keep it new, fresh and exciting. Um.
Speaker 1: That's really why I kind of like transitioned over into mainstream,
Speaker 1: just to try it and kind of prove it experiment.
Speaker 1: You're in your twenties, I'm young, I'm fun, broken a hip,
Speaker 1: yet you're roaring. I was going to start a podcast
Speaker 1: and call it in my in the twine. You would
Speaker 1: be a great podcast. Thank you? Is it my voice?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't have a very soothing, very soothing boys
Speaker 1: thank you? I think so it just gets lower as
Speaker 1: sweet talk. Yeah, I think that's what's so great about
Speaker 1: you know, lies on demand and all of that. And
Speaker 1: I just say, I do miss your YouTube videos. I
Speaker 1: miss them too, I love, I mean, and I'm getting
Speaker 1: more into there's a getting more into creating more of
Speaker 1: my own personal content on my channel again. So that
Speaker 1: will be have any more dollar Store videos? I there
Speaker 1: has to be. I'm still just as passionate. So I
Speaker 1: love that's what I tried. I kind of try to
Speaker 1: like night write wrap a nice little bow on dollar
Speaker 1: store by creating a dollar store music video. It's not over,
Speaker 1: It's not over. No. Now there's too many good deals
Speaker 1: to not. I've never been to the dollar store fat, yeah,
Speaker 1: really never been? Are you okay? You're not living a
Speaker 1: full life? I guess not what dude? Okay, everything's a
Speaker 1: dollar like you go? I know, have you seen my video?
Speaker 1: I live for you? I live, I live vicariously through
Speaker 1: you in your videos. Okay, I'm glad, but get out more.
Speaker 1: I know. But like it's it's ridiculous you walk into
Speaker 1: this store and you just don't understand. This is a
Speaker 1: plug for the dollar store. Two. I need to invoice them,
Speaker 1: but it sounds good. You don't understand, like lysol is
Speaker 1: the same? Do you actually shop there in your real life? Yes,
Speaker 1: on a day to day I mean when I okay,
Speaker 1: when I'm not on a day to day to day.
Speaker 1: I'm not pulling an Ellen, And I don't like I've
Speaker 1: never stepped footing a target like in years. Not like that.
Speaker 1: But got it. I haven't been to a dollar shore
Speaker 1: maybe no? Wait five months? Five months? Okay, you remember
Speaker 1: when I went to one in Canada because it was
Speaker 1: even cheaper than a dollar do how much was it
Speaker 1: like seventy eight cents? I don't know the conversion, but
Speaker 1: it was cheaper. That is crazy. Well, since you took
Speaker 1: your break off YouTube, I know it was for your
Speaker 1: mental health because because we all have that, because we
Speaker 1: all have that thing, um, we all that was there
Speaker 1: a certain moment when you realize You're like, I need
Speaker 1: to take this break or was it like an overall
Speaker 1: arching just like there was a little bit of a build,
Speaker 1: A little bit of a build, A bit of a build.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's And to go back to what
Speaker 1: you were saying, isolating, it was very isolating what I
Speaker 1: was doing. So I was doing everything on my own,
Speaker 1: creating these characters on my own. I didn't really have
Speaker 1: anybody to creatively brainstorm with, um and and that was
Speaker 1: my own doing, right because I was like, I have
Speaker 1: to do this by myself. I've only done it by myself.
Speaker 1: It's all people want to see. It's just me by myself.
Speaker 1: And you did all I did for a long time.
Speaker 1: And then I slowly started like eventually once I took
Speaker 1: that break and took some time to breathe and and
Speaker 1: and regroup with myself, ourselves in the different version of
Speaker 1: myself that I had been that people loved and was
Speaker 1: trying to like, Okay, I can be me now and
Speaker 1: be be be loved for that too. I don't have
Speaker 1: to be just yet or jess Alga. There's a whole
Speaker 1: like unfolding of my brain. Um, but it was nice
Speaker 1: to like regroup with myself, give myself that time that
Speaker 1: I deserved and understand that, Okay, cool, I have other
Speaker 1: priorities and other things that I really want to like try,
Speaker 1: and I want to be unafraid and unapologetic about that.
Speaker 1: So I gave myself that space and created that space
Speaker 1: in my heart so that I could like give it
Speaker 1: to others and to other projects and bring them to life.
Speaker 1: So Lies on Demand season three would not have happened
Speaker 1: had it not been for the breather that I gave myself.
Speaker 1: And I'm just happy that I made that choice I
Speaker 1: made then to be where I am now. Well, what
Speaker 1: advice do you have to do that? Because that's right,
Speaker 1: it's a scary thing. It's so hard. It's so hard,
Speaker 1: especially to to be comfortable with the uncomfortable. If we're
Speaker 1: gonna get deep here, they're getting deep with Sammy. Um,
Speaker 1: I couldn't rename the podcast honestly. Yeah, it was getting
Speaker 1: getting comfortable with uncomfortable with something that I've always like
Speaker 1: strived to do. Then a job that I do kind
Speaker 1: of thing is just like testing my limits and wondering like, wow,
Speaker 1: how can I do this or do it differently than
Speaker 1: it's been done before. So that's exciting for me. But UM,
Speaker 1: it was more so just like understanding that it's okay
Speaker 1: to branch off and try new things and be all
Speaker 1: right with evolving and not sticking to script that I
Speaker 1: wrote for myself. UM or being you know, like I say,
Speaker 1: like YouTube, you kind of create this box for yourself,
Speaker 1: like what you can you can expect as a creator,
Speaker 1: like what what characters I'm gonna do or what sketches
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, or if I only do sketches or
Speaker 1: only do your characters or only do myself vlogging, And
Speaker 1: then to experiment outside of that. Um, sometimes your audience
Speaker 1: isn't the most receptive, but does that really matter? Because
Speaker 1: you also want to be so love, like show love
Speaker 1: to yourself and appreciate yourself and and and understand that
Speaker 1: you get to do what you want to do and
Speaker 1: hopefully others will appreciate you for doing that. UM. And
Speaker 1: that's how it originally all started with me coming from
Speaker 1: a place of like being passionate and excited about what
Speaker 1: was what I was doing, and when I lost that,
Speaker 1: people could tell, like you can see that through a video, um,
Speaker 1: when someone kind of like loses that initial excitement that
Speaker 1: they had. And so I felt that a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to force it anymore. I wanted
Speaker 1: to just be very candid about, Hey, I'm going through stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't feel they need to blog it, but here
Speaker 1: I am, and I'm gonna keep drying new things and
Speaker 1: now in a much better place where I'm drying those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's when it's very I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've been through that too, Like I remember when you
Speaker 1: post I remember when you posted that video talking about
Speaker 1: your break. I was like, in the thick of it,
Speaker 1: just like high school is just like stressful in itself,
Speaker 1: and I haven't now with all the social media's Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's not easy. I have to shut my phone off
Speaker 1: at some point, right, Good for you for doing that though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're similar in the sense that social media
Speaker 1: both really intensified. Is that a word? That is a word?
Speaker 1: I didn't know it at seventeen, but yes, yeah, it
Speaker 1: really increased it. Um, But yeah, I think it's so
Speaker 1: cool that you took the break and you're talking about it.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're very insightful and have a
Speaker 1: lot of wisdom, just like just like when you talk
Speaker 1: thank you so much a girl, if you only knew
Speaker 1: what was going on? Is that my because I think
Speaker 1: everybody has that little self doubt of like thinking like
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. The words that are
Speaker 1: coming out of my mouth are la la la la,
Speaker 1: like I'm not making sense, and that's that's that tends
Speaker 1: to be like the like little downward spile of like
Speaker 1: social anxiety or anxiety in general. But like, thank you
Speaker 1: for crushing that, I'm healed well, Like especially when you
Speaker 1: have like such a big following and then people are
Speaker 1: putting in their own opinions and that that we must
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how much of that did not help, right, right,
Speaker 1: And a lot of people just you know, placing their
Speaker 1: own or kind of hurt people. Hurt people. So like
Speaker 1: a lot of people going through their own thing tend
Speaker 1: to project, um, you know, something that they see somebody
Speaker 1: else doing that they wish they could do kind of thing,
Speaker 1: And that's that's a tough thing. And I just empathized
Speaker 1: for those people, and like I would see hate comments,
Speaker 1: um and just like took it really personally at one
Speaker 1: point and then understood that maybe they're taking everything personally
Speaker 1: and that kind of sucks. That would have been in
Speaker 1: that place. That was me in the beginning of high
Speaker 1: school because like a bunch of people talk about like everybody,
Speaker 1: and so I would take it so personally and it's
Speaker 1: kind of just distinguishing. Yeah, um, my brother is very
Speaker 1: has a lot of wisdom, So so I'll talk to him.
Speaker 1: He'll be like to like, don't even like he's nineteen,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of wisdom. Two years, those two years,
Speaker 1: those two years a lot of good advice they do, right,
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine, Like, you've been in the public
Speaker 1: eye for the past. What when did you start? Run
Speaker 1: started une. I just had this realization it's been seven years.
Speaker 1: How weird is that? So we moved out to l A.
Speaker 1: You were in high school. I was a junior in
Speaker 1: high school. I was your age. I posted my very
Speaker 1: first mine. Do you remember what that was? I was
Speaker 1: climbing on top of a car. There's nothing, nothing inspiring
Speaker 1: at all. Did you ever expect it would lead to
Speaker 1: this no idea, no idea that would lead to this beautiful,
Speaker 1: insightful conversation with a young seventeen year old who's going
Speaker 1: to flourish when she moved to California. We're gonna make
Speaker 1: it happen, just like trying to really get you to
Speaker 1: kill what's going to happen? But um, it's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: You never know where it's gonna end up. I mean,
Speaker 1: how old were you when you started everything? Uh? Fourteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Three years? Man? That's did you expect to be where
Speaker 1: you are now? Not even not even six months ago?
Speaker 1: No idea? And how do you did you have there
Speaker 1: your future in mind? Like did you intend to like
Speaker 1: like have all this turn out for you? Did you
Speaker 1: kind of just go day by day? You just kept working, working,
Speaker 1: organ it went day by day. But also I had
Speaker 1: to put my energy into something else besides school because
Speaker 1: that just gave me anxiety within itself because because of
Speaker 1: my learning disability, So like when I was at like
Speaker 1: a mainstream school and they didn't know how to teach me,
Speaker 1: I would just it would really increase that. And so
Speaker 1: I put my energy into this stuff and when I
Speaker 1: was anxious, I so really weird coping mechanism. But I
Speaker 1: taught myself keynote and how to like a dream, podcasts
Speaker 1: that idea and here we are, Here we are man.
Speaker 1: What like society, I guess would have seen as like
Speaker 1: a weakness you turn into your superpower. That's cool that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do this. Yeah, that's okay, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Let's be real. It's nice, plug. I was waiting for
Speaker 1: the moment. I appreciate it. Is it ever hard when
Speaker 1: everybody has I can only imagine is there ever hard
Speaker 1: when everybody is just speculating everything about your life? Because
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that I just as
Speaker 1: a watcher of YouTube for years, you know, people have
Speaker 1: a perception of you. What is a misconception that you
Speaker 1: want to clear up? God, thank you, that's a beautiful question.
Speaker 1: Do you see That's okay? Hold on, here's an inside
Speaker 1: of the world. My publicist is in the corner of
Speaker 1: the room clutching her soul because no one has ever
Speaker 1: just been so human with me and asked me that
Speaker 1: question before in an interview. So thank you for seeing
Speaker 1: that I'm made out of skin and flesh and bounce.
Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, that's really cool. I wow, um, that's
Speaker 1: that's deep. But I think a huge misconception is that
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not human. And I think that's a big
Speaker 1: misconception that, like a lot of people in the industry
Speaker 1: or in the media, people forget it. People forget it,
Speaker 1: and that at some point you kind of just become
Speaker 1: an accessory of sorts to people's lives. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's tough. I feel like so much has to
Speaker 1: do with those myths, like so much of of you know,
Speaker 1: people's mental health and the reason why they have to,
Speaker 1: you know, take care of themselves, meaning like people in
Speaker 1: the industry have to take care of themselves. So so
Speaker 1: intense about you know, self care is that there's everything
Speaker 1: feels so heightened because everybody's watching them and and you know,
Speaker 1: just assuming these things about them. If you're not telling
Speaker 1: your story, then people are assuming that story, and they're
Speaker 1: feeling in the words for when you don't speak and
Speaker 1: when you're silent, they expect you to be. Actually literally
Speaker 1: had someone comment the other day like, you you can't
Speaker 1: be silent anymore. You need to tell the world. You're
Speaker 1: tell the world you're a bad bitch, otherwise you're not one.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's so so aggressive, So a
Speaker 1: guys girl, I was like, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: are you referring to? What am I? Silent? Twenty three?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Your expectations are so high, right, Like you're
Speaker 1: expected to be Like there's we have like knowledges on
Speaker 1: our fingertips, right, like we're living in a day and
Speaker 1: age that everything we're expected to know absolutely everything. If
Speaker 1: you're not well spoken about everything, or no facts are
Speaker 1: evidence about everything you speak of and are able to
Speaker 1: back yourself up, that you are just a failure. Like
Speaker 1: there's either for failure, there's no gray matter in between,
Speaker 1: or you just living life, just living life and you're
Speaker 1: just not Yeah, you're just living life and learning right right.
Speaker 1: So I think this conception is that where there's this
Speaker 1: idea of a celebrity and what we hold them to
Speaker 1: and expect from them, and those expectations can either you
Speaker 1: can either they can crush someone and and feel like
Speaker 1: they're not like living up to that and that they're
Speaker 1: not enough forever feel like failing and fueling that story
Speaker 1: that everybody has going through their heads that they're not
Speaker 1: enough and not this funny enough for smart enough for
Speaker 1: people just because you have followers and does not change that. No,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a number. And as as grateful as
Speaker 1: I am to the to the audience that you know,
Speaker 1: gave me the platform to try whatever, it's still it
Speaker 1: still doesn't mean that, like you're it doesn't reflect your
Speaker 1: self worth, their self love that you have for yourself
Speaker 1: that is truly like at your core what you're able
Speaker 1: to spread to everybody else. So it's just it's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that there's this whole fantasy behind celebrities when
Speaker 1: they are just human and they feel so like like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm so curious about because I felt like
Speaker 1: when you so publicly went through a breakup so publicly
Speaker 1: that video was sixty million views? Is that heart? Is?
Speaker 1: How difficult is that when you're already going through something
Speaker 1: personally and then everyone's putting in their opinions and you
Speaker 1: maybe can't date someone publicly because they're like they're not
Speaker 1: as good. It's so and so now that's why in
Speaker 1: texting back earlier ago, but that's that's right, You're you're
Speaker 1: so right. That was something. There was a decision that
Speaker 1: both David and I made what two years ago now,
Speaker 1: I think two years ago, two years like that's what
Speaker 1: I was saying, yeah, and and and put that out
Speaker 1: there just for our community, right like people knew us
Speaker 1: to make videos together, they knew us to you know,
Speaker 1: always be with each other. Obviously we were dating, and
Speaker 1: once we put that video out, it was just simply
Speaker 1: just to let everybody know, yeah, we're not together at
Speaker 1: the moment, and when this is, you know, what our
Speaker 1: life update is. And then it just took off and
Speaker 1: it was like this new age of being in relationship
Speaker 1: and the expectations you have to have and release your
Speaker 1: relationship up dates. So that was something I've never been
Speaker 1: like a vlogger of sorts, right Like that was kind
Speaker 1: of like a world that I lived through. David and
Speaker 1: mine was more so on like script side and me
Speaker 1: always like creating videos of my own characters of my right.
Speaker 1: Um so that was a very like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm me and being vulnerable and open about who I
Speaker 1: am and what I'm going through as a human. Everyone
Speaker 1: just went like that, being like the one time I
Speaker 1: opened up and then having that much attention, I was like,
Speaker 1: is that was would you ever have another public relationship
Speaker 1: or is it just private from now on because you
Speaker 1: know about Okay, you don't know about him private. It's
Speaker 1: always chat. It's always a chat. He's always at a
Speaker 1: friend or something. Probably no, but I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see where life takes me. But at
Speaker 1: the moment, no, I'm not dating anybody. If anybody wants
Speaker 1: to do something about that, same here and never been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never been in a relationship. Was David your first relationship? No? Really,
Speaker 1: Like I had other relationships online and was online at
Speaker 1: the time, but nobody really like knew, and like I
Speaker 1: hadn't really started YouTube and the whole snowball of social
Speaker 1: media really yet. Um. But yeah, how about you? Would
Speaker 1: you be public about a relationship you had online? I mean, like,
Speaker 1: it depends dependents. I don't know. I haven't I'll talk
Speaker 1: after this, but yeah, it depends what what what would
Speaker 1: it depend on? Uh, the kind of person and the reasons,
Speaker 1: like the kind of person like future husband or like
Speaker 1: you know, just like someone that um I respect and
Speaker 1: respects to me and then we have like if yeah,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I haven't thought about it because
Speaker 1: it's never happened, right, because I think even now more
Speaker 1: than ever, you see what happens exactly if you are
Speaker 1: in a relationship in your public about and how enjoyable
Speaker 1: that can be. Because it was. It was amazing to
Speaker 1: like share all those experiences online with David and create.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when it did unfold, it
Speaker 1: was a lot. It was a lot of attention at
Speaker 1: a place that I felt very vulnerable and felt like
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I'm being so open and everybody's
Speaker 1: seeing me as they did and lies on demand, Yeah,
Speaker 1: as they didn't lives on the man. That was kind
Speaker 1: of like a metaphor of me being like, fun want
Speaker 1: me to bear at all you actually get in that episode, Well,
Speaker 1: I had on head on pasties. Oh my god, a
Speaker 1: little mercan, which if you don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: it's like a little thing like a loan cloud of
Speaker 1: can either be covered in for or not. It was not,
Speaker 1: And I, yeah, I beared it all on the city
Speaker 1: streets of downtown. Man, thank you. Interesting interesting day, interesting
Speaker 1: day for a lot of people looking outside of their
Speaker 1: apartment windows. Yeah. Yes, well I'm really interested in like
Speaker 1: the business side of things in a creative aspect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the process of creating your own show, and
Speaker 1: just like the business side, like pitching it, coming up
Speaker 1: with it, because I think that's not talked about people
Speaker 1: to see a show, it's not talked about. I just
Speaker 1: like to acknowledge the fact that you did such a
Speaker 1: beautiful transition of conversation right there. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: You're brilliant producer, beautiful mind. But the business side of
Speaker 1: all that creating that teach me. Um. So God. I
Speaker 1: wish I could give you like a cram jam session,
Speaker 1: but it is so much better from experience. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to ask you to make a show okay,
Speaker 1: and you're going to enjoy it because I can just
Speaker 1: tell you, but to have let me know when casting
Speaker 1: call is so I can become an audition presa. But
Speaker 1: basically it goes from like concept and like understanding, like
Speaker 1: what exactly it is that we want to the message
Speaker 1: we want to convey and the story we want to tell,
Speaker 1: and like what hasn't been told before and what needs
Speaker 1: a platform to uplift that story? Um. And that's that's
Speaker 1: where we kind of like dove into the world of
Speaker 1: like gay economy and social media and and not social
Speaker 1: media so much, but gig economy of employing yourself and
Speaker 1: being your own self made, self employed, independent of worker.
Speaker 1: But that's tough to like build your own schedule and
Speaker 1: be this. But that's that's kind of the story that
Speaker 1: we started with, and it was a very broad and
Speaker 1: then what would be the adventures of the girl that
Speaker 1: is employed by her phone? That? Did you come up
Speaker 1: with the idea? And like did you how did you
Speaker 1: pitch it? Like what was the I'm the executive, what
Speaker 1: did you say for the show? Um? The meeting that
Speaker 1: we had actually a creative brainstorm with my two cro
Speaker 1: co creators of So Fun. They're So Fun. Deborah Kaplan
Speaker 1: and Harry Elfon are brilliant minds and it's too um
Speaker 1: that made can't hardly wait And you have no idea
Speaker 1: what that is because you're seventeen And I have no
Speaker 1: idea what that is because I'm funny the right But
Speaker 1: your parents knew it. Yep, they're nodding, they're nodding. Everybody's
Speaker 1: adding off camera, um, but yeah, they they did josing
Speaker 1: the pussycat dolls or pussycats um um, And like they're
Speaker 1: they're just brilliant. They've they've known how to make you know,
Speaker 1: an emotional through line and the show the some amazing
Speaker 1: like broadening of a character. So they helped me defind
Speaker 1: who lies that was going to be in the show,
Speaker 1: and basically the concept came from their minds of the
Speaker 1: whole gig economy. Mine was my original concept was, Oh,
Speaker 1: I would love to see like a girl enter a
Speaker 1: workplace and understand the logistics of her entering it as
Speaker 1: a man and as a woman, and I wanted to know,
Speaker 1: like what would the difference be, and that that kind
Speaker 1: of being like a right And that was like a
Speaker 1: pitch for one episode that was like I was like,
Speaker 1: this is I just really want to talk about this, um,
Speaker 1: Like I want to know what it's like if if
Speaker 1: a girl were to end at the workplace and how
Speaker 1: she would be treated differently. And that's actual, Like there's
Speaker 1: an actual article that came out and said a woman
Speaker 1: changed her email to a man's name, and we included
Speaker 1: that fact in the show, but changed it to a
Speaker 1: man's name. Um, and she received a ton more work
Speaker 1: and was taken a lot more seriously and actually received
Speaker 1: responses to her emails. And it was I forget I
Speaker 1: can't give like proper details, but it was so interesting
Speaker 1: and that was like a wake up call for me
Speaker 1: to like, I want to tell that story, but how
Speaker 1: And they kind of helped me maneuver, Like what we
Speaker 1: could do is like maybe this girl could be working
Speaker 1: in the gig economy and maybe she could change her
Speaker 1: profile photo and maybe that could be one episode of
Speaker 1: this huge arc of like this girl working from her
Speaker 1: phone and what adventures that takes her on. And so
Speaker 1: season three, who knows if that she's still going to
Speaker 1: be employed on her phone. I don't know who write
Speaker 1: it tonight because I just found out we had a season.
Speaker 1: Would you ever create another show or a movie? Yes?
Speaker 1: You would? Okay, I would love to do a movie.
Speaker 1: I think that'd be so fun. I would love to
Speaker 1: direct the movie. I'm not in. I think that'd be
Speaker 1: crazy cool. And dreamcast dream casts aray. Al Right, it's
Speaker 1: brilliant and I think it's just really cool what she
Speaker 1: did with Awkward Black Girl on YouTube. Its cool how
Speaker 1: she just expanded that into Insecure on HBO plug Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's very amazing. I who else?
Speaker 1: God's good? You fine? All right? I haven't acted, but sure,
Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot. I think he should, all right,
Speaker 1: I think you should. All right, um, especially if we're
Speaker 1: gonna move to California. Yes, let's make a tally of
Speaker 1: how many times Liza says, Okay, that was the third
Speaker 1: time doing six. Okay, keep keep you on six. Feeling
Speaker 1: not um, but yeah, I think you say. It's a
Speaker 1: raising great company, man, this is tough Zach Effron. Why
Speaker 1: not him? I saw you, I saw you do that
Speaker 1: gym time with him, and I'm just like, I'm jealous.
Speaker 1: You got to work out with Zach Efron so many
Speaker 1: like high school musical references that I made, and um
Speaker 1: also Charlie sat cloud offferences in every movie, every movie
Speaker 1: ever that he's been in. But is he just like
Speaker 1: such a sweet human, like as much as you want
Speaker 1: to be like like, you're like, oh, he's so sweet
Speaker 1: and kind and genuine like present, like, it's so nice
Speaker 1: to see the human behind the facade that you. High
Speaker 1: school musical is my childhood. I had the Tea Troy necklace.
Speaker 1: I did, I probably did. I got I dressed up
Speaker 1: as Gabrielle to the premiere of the third one, No
Speaker 1: Way have You? I mean Vanessa Hudgents never met her.
Speaker 1: I would love for her to be on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy Vanessa. Let me if you want to
Speaker 1: come on and as like, come on in zac Efron, Hi,
Speaker 1: I got you. I put in a good word. Okay,
Speaker 1: but they say hi, and but I think they would
Speaker 1: also be in my show too. Oh with them, that
Speaker 1: would be yes. I think that would be great. I
Speaker 1: think that'd be pretty great. And I worked with some
Speaker 1: pretty amazing people already, like uh Kamico, Glenn Travis Goals,
Speaker 1: my roommates in the show and my roommates in real life.
Speaker 1: They're brilliant. Also, I am so excited for the movie
Speaker 1: work it to come out. I know you filmed it
Speaker 1: with Jordan and Sabrina. First of all, Jordan Jordan was
Speaker 1: my first interview and he's actually came out an episode
Speaker 1: right because he's a Disney boet, right. He was my
Speaker 1: first interview when I was thirteen, and he introduced me
Speaker 1: to Radio Disney Go. Jordan's something good dude. He's just
Speaker 1: a good dude. It's good dude. He's just yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a good dud. He's so supportive on set too, because
Speaker 1: he knew it was like my first movie movie. His
Speaker 1: voice is like, I know more than money, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be on Broadway? As do you have an heaven? I
Speaker 1: am like friends and friends? We have friends and Sabrina
Speaker 1: She's what was that like? Working with these two completely
Speaker 1: creative people as well as yourself and then doing dancing,
Speaker 1: which if you've seen your Instagram, you got it, you
Speaker 1: got a movie because if you're just dancing, are is that?
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, put yourself out there when I'm
Speaker 1: when a kid is like, yeah, I want to do
Speaker 1: this too, I'm like, wow, do you if you're eighteen seventeen? Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Well you were thirteen or fourteen, but either way,
Speaker 1: I thought you did it well. Like I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that putting myself out there and like dancing on my stories,
Speaker 1: Like was my audition tape for that movie? Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Did you teach? Do you ever take dance classes? You're
Speaker 1: really good? No? No, I took dances dance classes as
Speaker 1: a kid growing up. So like I was like four
Speaker 1: when my mom enrolled me in the classic Piano or like,
Speaker 1: so I went for l A when I was a
Speaker 1: kid and then did hip hop when I was in
Speaker 1: high school and it was like very Texas I was
Speaker 1: on the drill team, so I did like the halftime
Speaker 1: dances and the kicks with the way too sparkling. The
Speaker 1: splits a classic do that do that at the end
Speaker 1: of everything I do. But I feel, yeah, just stretch
Speaker 1: boom crander. Is your body just so used to it off?
Speaker 1: Care I'm gonna pull away from Mike, pull my hip
Speaker 1: out the place? No way? Yeah, so I now have
Speaker 1: to go take care of that. Oh No, we're fine.
Speaker 1: We did the movie. The movie is done. But there
Speaker 1: is a scene the movie we're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's where she tore it. So yeah, I do have
Speaker 1: a little tear in my hip right now, but we're fine.
Speaker 1: We can do work at two. That's so oh my god.
Speaker 1: That makes me sad. We're good. Physical therapy great. Physical
Speaker 1: therapy is great. Right, I think you're just so you're badass.
Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say because I
Speaker 1: think it's so cool how much you do and the
Speaker 1: diversity in which you do it. You're working with Michelle Mama. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we create change. And tell me about how that
Speaker 1: came about. When Michelle Obama text you you have Michelle
Speaker 1: Bama's number, No, I don't. At all know God and
Speaker 1: her teams after me right now because I said that
Speaker 1: she just changed your number right now because it sounds no, no,
Speaker 1: she did not get my fantasy that I'm living, telling
Speaker 1: it before I tell the truth. Okay, the truth is Um,
Speaker 1: it's not as fun as it sounds. But my my
Speaker 1: team sent me an email fun story. But but essentially
Speaker 1: it was like my my I'd worked with creators for
Speaker 1: Changement before. I did a whole video about mental health
Speaker 1: and talked about my anxiety and being open about that,
Speaker 1: and that was another turning point for me of being
Speaker 1: open and candid online. You interviewed Obama and then interview
Speaker 1: our President Barack Obama wild um, and that was so
Speaker 1: that was like the audition to me. This is Michelle Obama,
Speaker 1: which is very exciting, especially if you listened to Becoming
Speaker 1: on the audiobook. This is also a plug because it's amazing.
Speaker 1: She just I just have to ask, is she just
Speaker 1: the most amazing she is? Is she everything I would
Speaker 1: imagine she and more? Like she exceeds all expectations. You
Speaker 1: guys can't see me, but I'm blushing just hearing that
Speaker 1: makes me so happy. Not the cosmetics, Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to get into that. That was so good by Liza
Speaker 1: gave me a box of her freaking beauty sessimy, but
Speaker 1: it's I appreciate. Oay, I want to open this. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is same. Oh. I know you can't see a visual,
Speaker 1: but you can just listen to her vanilla vibes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the name smells as good as it sounds.
Speaker 1: Body butter and it's so smooth and rich. So what
Speaker 1: made you want to become ambassador? I don't know, because
Speaker 1: like you're doing everything, it's so great. I thank you.
Speaker 1: I love trying different things and this has been such
Speaker 1: a step in a different direction or industry for myself
Speaker 1: that I've always kind of wanted to enter because growing
Speaker 1: up I had of some crazy skin and this is
Speaker 1: this was I hope it can be a solution for
Speaker 1: a lot of young girls that can skip all the
Speaker 1: steps and dermatology appointments that I went to, dermatologist appointments
Speaker 1: that I went to. My mouth is open papie and
Speaker 1: strawberry seeds, scrub facial masks, scrub your face and then
Speaker 1: you leave that on and it like hydrates it so
Speaker 1: it's exfolientating and then it hydrates it right afterwards. And
Speaker 1: I know it's for sensitive skin, which I have, don't
Speaker 1: we all we all sensitive nowadays? Um, It's it's fantastic
Speaker 1: and it is like a it's a cruel degree love
Speaker 1: that there we go, come on, never tested on animals,
Speaker 1: it looks better on humans, and it's it's it's just amazing.
Speaker 1: It's all around wholesome line. And I get to know
Speaker 1: the humans behind it, and like I'll tell you, the
Speaker 1: humans behind it exceed expectations to They're good people and
Speaker 1: they just like, that's what we need more in the world.
Speaker 1: We need the world. What I'm saying, like please, And
Speaker 1: then they're they're all so good and they're all like
Speaker 1: brilliant minds who are just striving to lessen the amount
Speaker 1: of packaging and their products. There you have to lessen
Speaker 1: the amount of plastic there. You know. They takes steps, right,
Speaker 1: because there's there's only so much that we can do,
Speaker 1: but we're working on doing it and that's three steps
Speaker 1: and gentle care. But god, yeah, this is so exciting.
Speaker 1: I'm trying this body butter now hit it, hit it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get me a seal on top, because
Speaker 1: that's how we do I like it. Clean. We love
Speaker 1: it clean, and it's all clean. It's entirely clean. A
Speaker 1: lot of the I think I can claim this vegan,
Speaker 1: so hey, people care so much about going vegan on
Speaker 1: the inside. Can you guys hear that smr there? That's
Speaker 1: her dipping her fingers. How much do I use? Just?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's good time right wait, yeah, it's thick.
Speaker 1: But like people have this misconception that like clean beauty
Speaker 1: isn't always good or pigmented or you know, thick or
Speaker 1: sparkling or whatever they want it to be. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you're doing yourself. Oh my goodness, glowing. Yeah, it's good
Speaker 1: on the hands. I put this on my face. You can,
Speaker 1: I mean, well it's body butter, but you can literally
Speaker 1: use anything like your body like skin true is a
Speaker 1: body gun. You do what you want. It's all clean.
Speaker 1: So like I've tested all of their products because they're
Speaker 1: not own animals, but but I've done it all the
Speaker 1: products everywhere, and they're multi use. Like it's multi purpose.
Speaker 1: You can use their like I crayons on your cheeks
Speaker 1: and create designs, or you can use the body butter
Speaker 1: on your face. It's fine. Sugar scrab I think it's
Speaker 1: in there. Wait is it? If not, I will send
Speaker 1: it over to you. Is that it? Okay? I have
Speaker 1: more to send you that move more. There's a sugar
Speaker 1: scrub in the shower, and my elbows have been crusty
Speaker 1: my entire life and now they're not. That is incredible,
Speaker 1: removed like three layers of skin that needed to go
Speaker 1: years ago. I just want to say, like, all I've
Speaker 1: been using is like I take coconut oil and then
Speaker 1: like brown sugar and it's like its own scrub. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited to use this. Okay, that's cool, and I
Speaker 1: like that's that's brilliantly like d I when I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be using this, but say what does that? And if
Speaker 1: you're ever feeling amazing same, what can do that for you?
Speaker 1: So it's all natural products really, cocon oil and sugar
Speaker 1: brown sugar are in the ingredient. Smells so good. And
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this because you're in front of me.
Speaker 1: There's fregran so that's not added any fregrance. Sometimes fragrance
Speaker 1: can be an irritant to your skin, So a lot
Speaker 1: of added fregnancys fragrances when you're like bumping out your
Speaker 1: face washing yeah about it now, Like it's exciting to
Speaker 1: like move forward to be more eco conscious just in general. Um,
Speaker 1: but like to be about it about your face too,
Speaker 1: that's the thing people see and that was a real
Speaker 1: big insecurity for me growing up. So I want to
Speaker 1: help any girls now, um, just like feel more confident
Speaker 1: in the skin that they're in because they're in it
Speaker 1: for life. Well, you're very passionate about a lot of
Speaker 1: things and that you're going to appreciate this transition. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about your passion for activism. Yes, I am active,
Speaker 1: you're active? Yeah, correct, Yeah, no, I'm I'm excited to
Speaker 1: also align with Michelle Obama again, that's my friend, um
Speaker 1: for when we all vote. Campaign, I'm about to vote
Speaker 1: for the first time. I'm so. I'm so. I've been
Speaker 1: taking you as government class and US history both, so
Speaker 1: I am educating myself. I know we talked all but
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of voting, the taxes. I'm all educated
Speaker 1: on this now. Dude. I'm so proud of you because
Speaker 1: I was learning that and did not absorb it properly.
Speaker 1: But I'm so excited to vote, Like, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: What made you so excited? So many countries are not
Speaker 1: you're not able to share your voice, and I think
Speaker 1: it's so cool, especially at eighteen, and I think if
Speaker 1: we don't use that, that's just right. I'm so proud.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. We just man, I'm so proud of you, girl,
Speaker 1: Like that's I'm just so empowering yourself. Did you feel soft?
Speaker 1: My hands were my God, thank you for that full
Speaker 1: plug of course you. Um. I'm proud of you for
Speaker 1: just being so excited and empowering yourself to like learn
Speaker 1: so cool, especially now we are living I think in
Speaker 1: such a scary but incredible time in history that I
Speaker 1: can't wait to look back and say, I voted for this,
Speaker 1: I did what was right, because like what we're going
Speaker 1: through it's like a movie right right right, And you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell your grandkids in future, like, yeah, I voted. Girl.
Speaker 1: If I don't pop out a child that has the
Speaker 1: same mind as you, girl, just dryin. You are so brilliant.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad though that this is the future of
Speaker 1: the future is bright and you are voting and you're
Speaker 1: making sure your boys is heard and you recognize all
Speaker 1: that that's all you can do that you can have
Speaker 1: to do your part and so many getting your friends
Speaker 1: together and like having a voting party because I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that, honestly, that would be fun. Okay, make it Wait?
Speaker 1: What if you like didn't event, someone to tell you
Speaker 1: something real quick called the prom challenge right now and
Speaker 1: it's going on. It's MTV is partnering with when we
Speaker 1: all vote, and as a coach when we all vote,
Speaker 1: I can tell you all the details if you you
Speaker 1: get your school together to like get crazy, get like
Speaker 1: partied up about voter registration and like do it so creatively,
Speaker 1: which I know you can do. Um, they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to cover your prom and like have talent
Speaker 1: at your prom, And that would be so dope to
Speaker 1: have you get rewarded for being excited about something that
Speaker 1: you're already going to do. So why not even why
Speaker 1: not do it? Why not do it? Emailing my principle
Speaker 1: after this, do it up to five dollars per prom
Speaker 1: or excited for problem I've been looking forward to for
Speaker 1: some It's a good mixture. It's a good mixture. Eighteen
Speaker 1: What do you trying? Eighteen? Always the eleventh, What if
Speaker 1: I just did a dress a little like ballots? Because
Speaker 1: that also so sometimes, so like if that would be
Speaker 1: kind of fun and you'd make it so easy on
Speaker 1: me to choose the winner of that challenge, because I'm
Speaker 1: going to help with that. All right, Um, if you
Speaker 1: do a problem word, I'll put it a good word.
Speaker 1: Awesome text, Michelle, all right, so you just change it
Speaker 1: number again. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on my podcast. I'm so excited. I'm so excited for
Speaker 1: you and just the immense amount of growth that you've
Speaker 1: already experienced at the stage, but also just to see
Speaker 1: where you go and I will catch up with you
Speaker 1: a year from now. How about that. That'd be really cool.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. I want to follow up see where
Speaker 1: we've both done, right right. Oh, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: talk that whole time. We're gonna do so much. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for you, so thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm so honored that year because I've been watching for
Speaker 1: literally five years. Okay, mutual stocking NATO. Yeah perfect, Thanks dude.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's
Speaker 1: episode with the podcast. I hope you liked it. Thank
Speaker 1: you Lisa so much for coming on. Make sure you
Speaker 1: watch listen stay tuned to all of her projects. She
Speaker 1: has a lot of them coming up. Make sure you
Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram that's at It's Sammy j I
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Speaker 1: would say bye,