1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, it's Sammy Jay. For today's episode, we have 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Liza Cachy as a guest on my podcast, and I 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: am so honored because I've been a fan of hers 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: for so long. We spoke on the day her YouTube 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: show Lies on Demand got picked up for season three. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Our conversation covered everything from the importance of the election, 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the biggest misconceptions about her breaking up in the public eye, 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: crossing over into mainstream media, our love over Zacha Evron, 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: and so much more. I cannot wait for you to 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: listen to this episode. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast, 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to hear your feedback. Liza. I'm 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: so excited that you're on my podcast and I'm excited 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: to be on here. Dude. Congratulations, Thank you. The life 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: you're living you've barely lived in and you've done so much, 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: So that's congrats to you. Well, I've been watching you 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: for years. Um. Yeah, Actually, I want to talk about 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things with you. I'm talking about Lies 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: on Demand season two. First, it is hysterical. Thank you. 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: I think it is. Thank you. It's even better than 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: season one. Thank you. Okay, See, that's all we want 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: is just room for improvement. It's improving that room and 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: we've improved. So thank you. What are you most proud 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: of that? I'm telling I'm really honestly most proud of 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: the fact that I got season three today. So yeah, today, 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: literally they just announced it on my panel that there's 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: the season three and that. Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: so like, I can I'm glowing. You can't see me 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: because it's a podcast. Oh wait, there's a little visual, 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: a little visual, there's just dress um. But but yeah, 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: came out today season three. Season two was amazing and 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: so you saw that improvement. Season three is going to 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: get even better. And that's a guarantee and a promise 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I will keep and a threat. Alright, any ideas what 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: you want to happen for season three? Directing again? I 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: directed in season two, and directing again would be amazing. 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: It was tough, but it was really fun challenge I 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: was willing to accept. Again, Well, I find it really 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: interesting because you created all your own content independently and 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: then you're creating a show. What was that process like 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: from doing something so isolating and then with a group 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: of people, right, thank you for acknowledging that was very ling. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: I was on my own four years, like directing myself, 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: which I didn't realize that's what I was doing. So 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I was directing, editing obviously it was very aware of that. 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: That took hours and days, but like filming myself, you know, 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: creating these characters, scripting those characters, giving them personality trades, 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: and then bringing them to life like that's I didn't 48 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: realize that I was acting until I got onto a 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: set and was told action and did something that felt 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: very familiar with, like I've been doing this. As weird 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: as that is, like you would think, okay, girl, you 52 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. You're being intentional about it. But 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: it was odd enough that I didn't really realize until 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I got into a whole new environment with a lot 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: of people looking that I wasn't used to them looking, 56 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: and I was able to do it. Still, how did 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: you develop those characters? How did you come up with 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: the idea for you know, Jet and Hell? That right? 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Those are the classics. Classics. Man, oh thanks, so I 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: told you I've been watching what you have. They say, hello, 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, I just made my day. Oh my god, 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: I missed them too. Um they are on vacation I've 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: been on vacation for a while. Um, but yeah, we've 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: made Liza on Demand without them, and maybe they'll show 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: up in season three. I don't know, I think they should. Okay, 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: all right, well you could be in season three too. 67 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk down parents after this. Um, just to move 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: to California that anyways, we're gonna make this happen. Liza 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: is on my side and this they're laughing. You can't 70 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: hear them because they're not miked, but we got them. 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh and now she has a butter knife to her chest. 72 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: We're we're a Tables fan. Um. But yeah, no, I 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: it was wild to step into the role of Liza, 74 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: a different version of Liza on Liza on Demand, and 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: be this version of myself that isn't me but is me. 76 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's yeah, it's weird, it's it's She's okay. 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: So Liza Man is basically she's employed by her phone, right, 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: which is what not too dissimilar to how I started 79 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: was being employed. But good old Vine, good old baby. 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: We got TikTok now do youse TikTok? I do? I 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: use it to upload like my old videos that went 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: on my Instagram stories and was only there for like 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and then I was like, that is smart. 84 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: We need to put it up there permanently. And yeah, 85 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: a place to go Oh wow, that is smart. I 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: haven't I haven't gone down the TikTok hole of making them, 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: but I've gone down watch. It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: It's a huge time sucker. It's good though, that's good fun. 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: And they have tutorials too, so you can want to 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: them how to do things. Yeah. I just love for TikTok. 91 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I just like the funny ones, like you know how 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: like the skits because it reminds me of Vine mine, 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: but it's longer. It's like what sconds I don't even know. 94 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: I just enjoy it. We did We talk about TikTok 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: for thirty seconds enough for them to consider this a plug, 96 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: maybe a future sponsor. Question mark Smart, Well, since your 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: YouTube channel has been what really skyrocket? Did you besides Vine? 98 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: What was that like when you realize, oh wait, I 99 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: want to cross over into mainstream? Into mainstream? Good question. 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people ask about the transition this kid. 101 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: People ask about the transition from Vine into YouTube or 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: like longer form content from sure to long form um 103 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: mainstream though, because that's the challenge in itself to go 104 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: to have like you're very unique in that you have 105 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: that you can do that six second content, but then 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: you can also do hosting the met Galla Red Carpet 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: like black Out every time. I literally don't remember doing that, 108 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: so thank you for reminding me of UM. But it 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: is a wild experience to like all of a sudden 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: be um, you know, on a platform and talking to 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: all these people that have admired for years and years 112 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: and years, which is what what you do. And you 113 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: have the utmost bravery and utmost unapologetic attitude about all things. 114 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: So thanks for hosting the met Galla Red Carpet. You know, 115 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: after I get lart um, I'll say something and annimal 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: let me go, but cancel culture as opposing UM. But 117 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: but essentially, like I don't know, it's just a very 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: similar feeling was induced for me personally of being able 119 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: to perform in my own living room but then also 120 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: on a set, but then also on a podium while 121 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: narrating Lady Gaga removing eight dresses for the gala UM 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: and it's just I love I love doing it all 123 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: and it's really fun and I love challenging myself in 124 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: different ways that keep it new, fresh and exciting. Um. 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: That's really why I kind of like transitioned over into mainstream, 126 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: just to try it and kind of prove it experiment. 127 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: You're in your twenties, I'm young, I'm fun, broken a hip, 128 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: yet you're roaring. I was going to start a podcast 129 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: and call it in my in the twine. You would 130 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: be a great podcast. Thank you? Is it my voice? 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: Because I didn't have a very soothing, very soothing boys 132 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: thank you? I think so it just gets lower as 133 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: sweet talk. Yeah, I think that's what's so great about 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, lies on demand and all of that. And 135 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: I just say, I do miss your YouTube videos. I 136 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: miss them too, I love, I mean, and I'm getting 137 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: more into there's a getting more into creating more of 138 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: my own personal content on my channel again. So that 139 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: will be have any more dollar Store videos? I there 140 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: has to be. I'm still just as passionate. So I 141 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: love that's what I tried. I kind of try to 142 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: like night write wrap a nice little bow on dollar 143 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: store by creating a dollar store music video. It's not over, 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: It's not over. No. Now there's too many good deals 145 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to not. I've never been to the dollar store fat, yeah, 146 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: really never been? Are you okay? You're not living a 147 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: full life? I guess not what dude? Okay, everything's a 148 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: dollar like you go? I know, have you seen my video? 149 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I live for you? I live, I live vicariously through 150 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: you in your videos. Okay, I'm glad, but get out more. 151 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: I know. But like it's it's ridiculous you walk into 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: this store and you just don't understand. This is a 153 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: plug for the dollar store. Two. I need to invoice them, 154 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: but it sounds good. You don't understand, like lysol is 155 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the same? Do you actually shop there in your real life? Yes, 156 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: on a day to day I mean when I okay, 157 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: when I'm not on a day to day to day. 158 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm not pulling an Ellen, And I don't like I've 159 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: never stepped footing a target like in years. Not like that. 160 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: But got it. I haven't been to a dollar shore 161 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: maybe no? Wait five months? Five months? Okay, you remember 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: when I went to one in Canada because it was 163 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: even cheaper than a dollar do how much was it 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: like seventy eight cents? I don't know the conversion, but 165 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: it was cheaper. That is crazy. Well, since you took 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: your break off YouTube, I know it was for your 167 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: mental health because because we all have that, because we 168 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: all have that thing, um, we all that was there 169 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: a certain moment when you realize You're like, I need 170 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: to take this break or was it like an overall 171 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: arching just like there was a little bit of a build, 172 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: A little bit of a build, A bit of a build. 173 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: I think that's that's And to go back to what 174 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: you were saying, isolating, it was very isolating what I 175 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: was doing. So I was doing everything on my own, 176 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: creating these characters on my own. I didn't really have 177 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: anybody to creatively brainstorm with, um and and that was 178 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: my own doing, right because I was like, I have 179 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: to do this by myself. I've only done it by myself. 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: It's all people want to see. It's just me by myself. 181 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: And you did all I did for a long time. 182 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: And then I slowly started like eventually once I took 183 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: that break and took some time to breathe and and 184 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: and regroup with myself, ourselves in the different version of 185 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: myself that I had been that people loved and was 186 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: trying to like, Okay, I can be me now and 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: be be be loved for that too. I don't have 188 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: to be just yet or jess Alga. There's a whole 189 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: like unfolding of my brain. Um, but it was nice 190 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: to like regroup with myself, give myself that time that 191 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: I deserved and understand that, Okay, cool, I have other 192 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: priorities and other things that I really want to like try, 193 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: and I want to be unafraid and unapologetic about that. 194 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: So I gave myself that space and created that space 195 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: in my heart so that I could like give it 196 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: to others and to other projects and bring them to life. 197 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: So Lies on Demand season three would not have happened 198 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: had it not been for the breather that I gave myself. 199 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: And I'm just happy that I made that choice I 200 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: made then to be where I am now. Well, what 201 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: advice do you have to do that? Because that's right, 202 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a scary thing. It's so hard. It's so hard, 203 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: especially to to be comfortable with the uncomfortable. If we're 204 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: gonna get deep here, they're getting deep with Sammy. Um, 205 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't rename the podcast honestly. Yeah, it was getting 206 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: getting comfortable with uncomfortable with something that I've always like 207 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: strived to do. Then a job that I do kind 208 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: of thing is just like testing my limits and wondering like, wow, 209 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: how can I do this or do it differently than 210 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: it's been done before. So that's exciting for me. But UM, 211 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: it was more so just like understanding that it's okay 212 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: to branch off and try new things and be all 213 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: right with evolving and not sticking to script that I 214 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: wrote for myself. UM or being you know, like I say, 215 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: like YouTube, you kind of create this box for yourself, 216 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: like what you can you can expect as a creator, 217 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: like what what characters I'm gonna do or what sketches 218 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, or if I only do sketches or 219 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: only do your characters or only do myself vlogging, And 220 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: then to experiment outside of that. Um, sometimes your audience 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: isn't the most receptive, but does that really matter? Because 222 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: you also want to be so love, like show love 223 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: to yourself and appreciate yourself and and and understand that 224 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: you get to do what you want to do and 225 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: hopefully others will appreciate you for doing that. UM. And 226 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: that's how it originally all started with me coming from 227 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: a place of like being passionate and excited about what 228 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: was what I was doing, and when I lost that, 229 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: people could tell, like you can see that through a video, um, 230 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: when someone kind of like loses that initial excitement that 231 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: they had. And so I felt that a little bit, 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to force it anymore. I wanted 233 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: to just be very candid about, Hey, I'm going through stuff. 234 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't feel they need to blog it, but here 235 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: I am, and I'm gonna keep drying new things and 236 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: now in a much better place where I'm drying those things. 237 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's when it's very I'm like, 238 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: I've been through that too, Like I remember when you 239 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: post I remember when you posted that video talking about 240 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: your break. I was like, in the thick of it, 241 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,119 Speaker 1: just like high school is just like stressful in itself, 242 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: and I haven't now with all the social media's Honestly, 243 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not easy. I have to shut my phone off 244 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: at some point, right, Good for you for doing that though. Yeah, 245 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: I think we're similar in the sense that social media 246 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: both really intensified. Is that a word? That is a word? 247 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know it at seventeen, but yes, yeah, it 248 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: really increased it. Um, But yeah, I think it's so 249 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: cool that you took the break and you're talking about it. 250 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: I think I think you're very insightful and have a 251 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: lot of wisdom, just like just like when you talk 252 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much a girl, if you only knew 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: what was going on? Is that my because I think 254 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: everybody has that little self doubt of like thinking like 255 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. The words that are 256 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: coming out of my mouth are la la la la, 257 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: like I'm not making sense, and that's that's that tends 258 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: to be like the like little downward spile of like 259 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: social anxiety or anxiety in general. But like, thank you 260 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: for crushing that, I'm healed well, Like especially when you 261 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: have like such a big following and then people are 262 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: putting in their own opinions and that that we must 263 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how much of that did not help, right, right, 264 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: And a lot of people just you know, placing their 265 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: own or kind of hurt people. Hurt people. So like 266 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people going through their own thing tend 267 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: to project, um, you know, something that they see somebody 268 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: else doing that they wish they could do kind of thing, 269 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's a tough thing. And I just empathized 270 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: for those people, and like I would see hate comments, 271 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: um and just like took it really personally at one 272 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: point and then understood that maybe they're taking everything personally 273 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: and that kind of sucks. That would have been in 274 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: that place. That was me in the beginning of high 275 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: school because like a bunch of people talk about like everybody, 276 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: and so I would take it so personally and it's 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of just distinguishing. Yeah, um, my brother is very 278 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: has a lot of wisdom, So so I'll talk to him. 279 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: He'll be like to like, don't even like he's nineteen, 280 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of wisdom. Two years, those two years, 281 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: those two years a lot of good advice they do, right, 282 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine, Like, you've been in the public 283 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: eye for the past. What when did you start? Run 284 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: started une. I just had this realization it's been seven years. 285 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: How weird is that? So we moved out to l A. 286 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: You were in high school. I was a junior in 287 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: high school. I was your age. I posted my very 288 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: first mine. Do you remember what that was? I was 289 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: climbing on top of a car. There's nothing, nothing inspiring 290 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: at all. Did you ever expect it would lead to 291 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: this no idea, no idea that would lead to this beautiful, 292 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: insightful conversation with a young seventeen year old who's going 293 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: to flourish when she moved to California. We're gonna make 294 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: it happen, just like trying to really get you to 295 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: kill what's going to happen? But um, it's that's that's crazy. 296 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: You never know where it's gonna end up. I mean, 297 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: how old were you when you started everything? Uh? Fourteen? Yeah? 298 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Three years? Man? That's did you expect to be where 299 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: you are now? Not even not even six months ago? 300 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: No idea? And how do you did you have there 301 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: your future in mind? Like did you intend to like 302 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: like have all this turn out for you? Did you 303 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: kind of just go day by day? You just kept working, working, 304 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: organ it went day by day. But also I had 305 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: to put my energy into something else besides school because 306 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: that just gave me anxiety within itself because because of 307 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: my learning disability, So like when I was at like 308 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: a mainstream school and they didn't know how to teach me, 309 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I would just it would really increase that. And so 310 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I put my energy into this stuff and when I 311 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: was anxious, I so really weird coping mechanism. But I 312 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: taught myself keynote and how to like a dream, podcasts 313 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: that idea and here we are, Here we are man. 314 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: What like society, I guess would have seen as like 315 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: a weakness you turn into your superpower. That's cool that 316 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do this. Yeah, that's okay, that's beautiful. 317 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: Let's be real. It's nice, plug. I was waiting for 318 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: the moment. I appreciate it. Is it ever hard when 319 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: everybody has I can only imagine is there ever hard 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: when everybody is just speculating everything about your life? Because 321 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that I just as 322 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: a watcher of YouTube for years, you know, people have 323 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: a perception of you. What is a misconception that you 324 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: want to clear up? God, thank you, that's a beautiful question. 325 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Do you see That's okay? Hold on, here's an inside 326 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: of the world. My publicist is in the corner of 327 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: the room clutching her soul because no one has ever 328 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: just been so human with me and asked me that 329 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: question before in an interview. So thank you for seeing 330 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: that I'm made out of skin and flesh and bounce. 331 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, that's really cool. I wow, um, that's 332 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: that's deep. But I think a huge misconception is that 333 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: maybe I'm not human. And I think that's a big 334 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: misconception that, like a lot of people in the industry 335 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: or in the media, people forget it. People forget it, 336 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: and that at some point you kind of just become 337 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: an accessory of sorts to people's lives. I don't know, 338 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: it's it's tough. I feel like so much has to 339 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: do with those myths, like so much of of you know, 340 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: people's mental health and the reason why they have to, 341 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, take care of themselves, meaning like people in 342 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: the industry have to take care of themselves. So so 343 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: intense about you know, self care is that there's everything 344 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: feels so heightened because everybody's watching them and and you know, 345 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: just assuming these things about them. If you're not telling 346 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: your story, then people are assuming that story, and they're 347 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: feeling in the words for when you don't speak and 348 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: when you're silent, they expect you to be. Actually literally 349 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: had someone comment the other day like, you you can't 350 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: be silent anymore. You need to tell the world. You're 351 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: tell the world you're a bad bitch, otherwise you're not one. 352 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's so so aggressive, So a 353 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: guys girl, I was like, I don't even know what 354 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: are you referring to? What am I? Silent? Twenty three? 355 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Your expectations are so high, right, Like you're 356 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: expected to be Like there's we have like knowledges on 357 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: our fingertips, right, like we're living in a day and 358 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: age that everything we're expected to know absolutely everything. If 359 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: you're not well spoken about everything, or no facts are 360 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: evidence about everything you speak of and are able to 361 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: back yourself up, that you are just a failure. Like 362 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: there's either for failure, there's no gray matter in between, 363 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: or you just living life, just living life and you're 364 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: just not Yeah, you're just living life and learning right right. 365 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: So I think this conception is that where there's this 366 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: idea of a celebrity and what we hold them to 367 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: and expect from them, and those expectations can either you 368 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: can either they can crush someone and and feel like 369 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: they're not like living up to that and that they're 370 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: not enough forever feel like failing and fueling that story 371 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: that everybody has going through their heads that they're not 372 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: enough and not this funny enough for smart enough for 373 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: people just because you have followers and does not change that. No, 374 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: that's a that's a number. And as as grateful as 375 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: I am to the to the audience that you know, 376 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: gave me the platform to try whatever, it's still it 377 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: still doesn't mean that, like you're it doesn't reflect your 378 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: self worth, their self love that you have for yourself 379 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: that is truly like at your core what you're able 380 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: to spread to everybody else. So it's just it's interesting. 381 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: It's interesting that there's this whole fantasy behind celebrities when 382 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: they are just human and they feel so like like, 383 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: that's what I'm so curious about because I felt like 384 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: when you so publicly went through a breakup so publicly 385 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: that video was sixty million views? Is that heart? Is? 386 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: How difficult is that when you're already going through something 387 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: personally and then everyone's putting in their opinions and you 388 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: maybe can't date someone publicly because they're like they're not 389 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: as good. It's so and so now that's why in 390 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: texting back earlier ago, but that's that's right, You're you're 391 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: so right. That was something. There was a decision that 392 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: both David and I made what two years ago now, 393 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: I think two years ago, two years like that's what 394 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: I was saying, yeah, and and and put that out 395 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: there just for our community, right like people knew us 396 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: to make videos together, they knew us to you know, 397 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: always be with each other. Obviously we were dating, and 398 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: once we put that video out, it was just simply 399 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: just to let everybody know, yeah, we're not together at 400 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the moment, and when this is, you know, what our 401 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: life update is. And then it just took off and 402 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: it was like this new age of being in relationship 403 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: and the expectations you have to have and release your 404 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: relationship up dates. So that was something I've never been 405 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: like a vlogger of sorts, right Like that was kind 406 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: of like a world that I lived through. David and 407 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: mine was more so on like script side and me 408 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: always like creating videos of my own characters of my right. 409 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: Um so that was a very like all of a sudden, 410 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm me and being vulnerable and open about who I 411 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: am and what I'm going through as a human. Everyone 412 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: just went like that, being like the one time I 413 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: opened up and then having that much attention, I was like, 414 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: is that was would you ever have another public relationship 415 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: or is it just private from now on because you 416 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: know about Okay, you don't know about him private. It's 417 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: always chat. It's always a chat. He's always at a 418 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: friend or something. Probably no, but I mean I don't know. 419 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see where life takes me. But at 420 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: the moment, no, I'm not dating anybody. If anybody wants 421 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: to do something about that, same here and never been. Yeah, 422 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I've never been in a relationship. Was David your first relationship? No? Really, 423 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: Like I had other relationships online and was online at 424 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: the time, but nobody really like knew, and like I 425 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: hadn't really started YouTube and the whole snowball of social 426 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: media really yet. Um. But yeah, how about you? Would 427 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: you be public about a relationship you had online? I mean, like, 428 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: it depends dependents. I don't know. I haven't I'll talk 429 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: after this, but yeah, it depends what what what would 430 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: it depend on? Uh, the kind of person and the reasons, 431 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: like the kind of person like future husband or like 432 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, just like someone that um I respect and 433 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: respects to me and then we have like if yeah, 434 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I haven't thought about it because 435 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: it's never happened, right, because I think even now more 436 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: than ever, you see what happens exactly if you are 437 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: in a relationship in your public about and how enjoyable 438 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: that can be. Because it was. It was amazing to 439 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: like share all those experiences online with David and create. 440 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, when it did unfold, it 441 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: was a lot. It was a lot of attention at 442 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: a place that I felt very vulnerable and felt like 443 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I'm being so open and everybody's 444 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: seeing me as they did and lies on demand, Yeah, 445 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: as they didn't lives on the man. That was kind 446 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: of like a metaphor of me being like, fun want 447 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: me to bear at all you actually get in that episode, Well, 448 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: I had on head on pasties. Oh my god, a 449 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: little mercan, which if you don't know what that is, 450 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: it's like a little thing like a loan cloud of 451 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: can either be covered in for or not. It was not, 452 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: And I, yeah, I beared it all on the city 453 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: streets of downtown. Man, thank you. Interesting interesting day, interesting 454 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: day for a lot of people looking outside of their 455 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: apartment windows. Yeah. Yes, well I'm really interested in like 456 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: the business side of things in a creative aspect. Yeah, 457 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: what was the process of creating your own show, and 458 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: just like the business side, like pitching it, coming up 459 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: with it, because I think that's not talked about people 460 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: to see a show, it's not talked about. I just 461 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: like to acknowledge the fact that you did such a 462 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: beautiful transition of conversation right there. Thank you for that. 463 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: You're brilliant producer, beautiful mind. But the business side of 464 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: all that creating that teach me. Um. So God. I 465 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: wish I could give you like a cram jam session, 466 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: but it is so much better from experience. So I'm 467 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: going to have to ask you to make a show okay, 468 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: and you're going to enjoy it because I can just 469 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: tell you, but to have let me know when casting 470 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: call is so I can become an audition presa. But 471 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: basically it goes from like concept and like understanding, like 472 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: what exactly it is that we want to the message 473 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: we want to convey and the story we want to tell, 474 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: and like what hasn't been told before and what needs 475 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: a platform to uplift that story? Um. And that's that's 476 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: where we kind of like dove into the world of 477 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: like gay economy and social media and and not social 478 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: media so much, but gig economy of employing yourself and 479 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: being your own self made, self employed, independent of worker. 480 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: But that's tough to like build your own schedule and 481 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: be this. But that's that's kind of the story that 482 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: we started with, and it was a very broad and 483 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: then what would be the adventures of the girl that 484 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: is employed by her phone? That? Did you come up 485 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: with the idea? And like did you how did you 486 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: pitch it? Like what was the I'm the executive, what 487 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: did you say for the show? Um? The meeting that 488 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: we had actually a creative brainstorm with my two cro 489 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: co creators of So Fun. They're So Fun. Deborah Kaplan 490 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: and Harry Elfon are brilliant minds and it's too um 491 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: that made can't hardly wait And you have no idea 492 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: what that is because you're seventeen And I have no 493 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: idea what that is because I'm funny the right But 494 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: your parents knew it. Yep, they're nodding, they're nodding. Everybody's 495 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: adding off camera, um, but yeah, they they did josing 496 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the pussycat dolls or pussycats um um, And like they're 497 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: they're just brilliant. They've they've known how to make you know, 498 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: an emotional through line and the show the some amazing 499 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: like broadening of a character. So they helped me defind 500 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: who lies that was going to be in the show, 501 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: and basically the concept came from their minds of the 502 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: whole gig economy. Mine was my original concept was, Oh, 503 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: I would love to see like a girl enter a 504 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: workplace and understand the logistics of her entering it as 505 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: a man and as a woman, and I wanted to know, 506 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: like what would the difference be, and that that kind 507 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: of being like a right And that was like a 508 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: pitch for one episode that was like I was like, 509 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: this is I just really want to talk about this, um, 510 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: Like I want to know what it's like if if 511 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: a girl were to end at the workplace and how 512 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: she would be treated differently. And that's actual, Like there's 513 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: an actual article that came out and said a woman 514 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: changed her email to a man's name, and we included 515 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: that fact in the show, but changed it to a 516 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: man's name. Um, and she received a ton more work 517 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: and was taken a lot more seriously and actually received 518 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: responses to her emails. And it was I forget I 519 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: can't give like proper details, but it was so interesting 520 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: and that was like a wake up call for me 521 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: to like, I want to tell that story, but how 522 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: And they kind of helped me maneuver, Like what we 523 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: could do is like maybe this girl could be working 524 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: in the gig economy and maybe she could change her 525 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: profile photo and maybe that could be one episode of 526 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: this huge arc of like this girl working from her 527 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: phone and what adventures that takes her on. And so 528 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: season three, who knows if that she's still going to 529 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: be employed on her phone. I don't know who write 530 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: it tonight because I just found out we had a season. 531 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: Would you ever create another show or a movie? Yes? 532 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: You would? Okay, I would love to do a movie. 533 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: I think that'd be so fun. I would love to 534 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: direct the movie. I'm not in. I think that'd be 535 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: crazy cool. And dreamcast dream casts aray. Al Right, it's 536 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: brilliant and I think it's just really cool what she 537 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: did with Awkward Black Girl on YouTube. Its cool how 538 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: she just expanded that into Insecure on HBO plug Um. 539 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's very amazing. I who else? 540 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: God's good? You fine? All right? I haven't acted, but sure, 541 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot. I think he should, all right, 542 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: I think you should. All right, um, especially if we're 543 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna move to California. Yes, let's make a tally of 544 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: how many times Liza says, Okay, that was the third 545 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: time doing six. Okay, keep keep you on six. Feeling 546 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: not um, but yeah, I think you say. It's a 547 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: raising great company, man, this is tough Zach Effron. Why 548 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: not him? I saw you, I saw you do that 549 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: gym time with him, and I'm just like, I'm jealous. 550 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: You got to work out with Zach Efron so many 551 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: like high school musical references that I made, and um 552 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: also Charlie sat cloud offferences in every movie, every movie 553 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: ever that he's been in. But is he just like 554 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: such a sweet human, like as much as you want 555 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: to be like like, you're like, oh, he's so sweet 556 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: and kind and genuine like present, like, it's so nice 557 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: to see the human behind the facade that you. High 558 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: school musical is my childhood. I had the Tea Troy necklace. 559 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: I did, I probably did. I got I dressed up 560 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: as Gabrielle to the premiere of the third one, No 561 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Way have You? I mean Vanessa Hudgents never met her. 562 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: I would love for her to be on this podcast. 563 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoy Vanessa. Let me if you want to 564 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: come on and as like, come on in zac Efron, Hi, 565 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: I got you. I put in a good word. Okay, 566 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: but they say hi, and but I think they would 567 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: also be in my show too. Oh with them, that 568 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: would be yes. I think that would be great. I 569 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: think that'd be pretty great. And I worked with some 570 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: pretty amazing people already, like uh Kamico, Glenn Travis Goals, 571 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: my roommates in the show and my roommates in real life. 572 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: They're brilliant. Also, I am so excited for the movie 573 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: work it to come out. I know you filmed it 574 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: with Jordan and Sabrina. First of all, Jordan Jordan was 575 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: my first interview and he's actually came out an episode 576 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: right because he's a Disney boet, right. He was my 577 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: first interview when I was thirteen, and he introduced me 578 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: to Radio Disney Go. Jordan's something good dude. He's just 579 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: a good dude. It's good dude. He's just yeah, he's 580 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: a good dud. He's so supportive on set too, because 581 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: he knew it was like my first movie movie. His 582 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: voice is like, I know more than money, he's gonna 583 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: be on Broadway? As do you have an heaven? I 584 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: am like friends and friends? We have friends and Sabrina 585 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: She's what was that like? Working with these two completely 586 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: creative people as well as yourself and then doing dancing, 587 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: which if you've seen your Instagram, you got it, you 588 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: got a movie because if you're just dancing, are is that? 589 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, put yourself out there when I'm 590 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: when a kid is like, yeah, I want to do 591 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: this too, I'm like, wow, do you if you're eighteen seventeen? Okay, 592 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: go ahead, Well you were thirteen or fourteen, but either way, 593 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: I thought you did it well. Like I didn't realize 594 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: that putting myself out there and like dancing on my stories, 595 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Like was my audition tape for that movie? Pretty much? 596 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: Did you teach? Do you ever take dance classes? You're 597 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: really good? No? No, I took dances dance classes as 598 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: a kid growing up. So like I was like four 599 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: when my mom enrolled me in the classic Piano or like, 600 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: so I went for l A when I was a 601 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: kid and then did hip hop when I was in 602 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: high school and it was like very Texas I was 603 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: on the drill team, so I did like the halftime 604 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: dances and the kicks with the way too sparkling. The 605 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: splits a classic do that do that at the end 606 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: of everything I do. But I feel, yeah, just stretch 607 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: boom crander. Is your body just so used to it off? 608 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: Care I'm gonna pull away from Mike, pull my hip 609 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: out the place? No way? Yeah, so I now have 610 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: to go take care of that. Oh No, we're fine. 611 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: We did the movie. The movie is done. But there 612 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: is a scene the movie we're gonna be like, oh, 613 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: that's where she tore it. So yeah, I do have 614 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: a little tear in my hip right now, but we're fine. 615 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: We can do work at two. That's so oh my god. 616 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: That makes me sad. We're good. Physical therapy great. Physical 617 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: therapy is great. Right, I think you're just so you're badass. 618 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say because I 619 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: think it's so cool how much you do and the 620 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: diversity in which you do it. You're working with Michelle Mama. Yeah, 621 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: and we create change. And tell me about how that 622 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: came about. When Michelle Obama text you you have Michelle 623 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Bama's number, No, I don't. At all know God and 624 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: her teams after me right now because I said that 625 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: she just changed your number right now because it sounds no, no, 626 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: she did not get my fantasy that I'm living, telling 627 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: it before I tell the truth. Okay, the truth is Um, 628 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: it's not as fun as it sounds. But my my 629 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: team sent me an email fun story. But but essentially 630 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: it was like my my I'd worked with creators for 631 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: Changement before. I did a whole video about mental health 632 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: and talked about my anxiety and being open about that, 633 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: and that was another turning point for me of being 634 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: open and candid online. You interviewed Obama and then interview 635 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: our President Barack Obama wild um, and that was so 636 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: that was like the audition to me. This is Michelle Obama, 637 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: which is very exciting, especially if you listened to Becoming 638 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: on the audiobook. This is also a plug because it's amazing. 639 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: She just I just have to ask, is she just 640 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: the most amazing she is? Is she everything I would 641 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: imagine she and more? Like she exceeds all expectations. You 642 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: guys can't see me, but I'm blushing just hearing that 643 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: makes me so happy. Not the cosmetics, Okay, I want 644 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: to get into that. That was so good by Liza 645 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: gave me a box of her freaking beauty sessimy, but 646 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: it's I appreciate. Oay, I want to open this. Okay, 647 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: this is same. Oh. I know you can't see a visual, 648 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: but you can just listen to her vanilla vibes. Yeah. 649 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I like the name smells as good as it sounds. 650 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: Body butter and it's so smooth and rich. So what 651 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: made you want to become ambassador? I don't know, because 652 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: like you're doing everything, it's so great. I thank you. 653 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: I love trying different things and this has been such 654 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: a step in a different direction or industry for myself 655 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: that I've always kind of wanted to enter because growing 656 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: up I had of some crazy skin and this is 657 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: this was I hope it can be a solution for 658 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of young girls that can skip all the 659 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: steps and dermatology appointments that I went to, dermatologist appointments 660 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: that I went to. My mouth is open papie and 661 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: strawberry seeds, scrub facial masks, scrub your face and then 662 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: you leave that on and it like hydrates it so 663 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: it's exfolientating and then it hydrates it right afterwards. And 664 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: I know it's for sensitive skin, which I have, don't 665 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: we all we all sensitive nowadays? Um, It's it's fantastic 666 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: and it is like a it's a cruel degree love 667 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: that there we go, come on, never tested on animals, 668 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: it looks better on humans, and it's it's it's just amazing. 669 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: It's all around wholesome line. And I get to know 670 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: the humans behind it, and like I'll tell you, the 671 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: humans behind it exceed expectations to They're good people and 672 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: they just like, that's what we need more in the world. 673 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: We need the world. What I'm saying, like please, And 674 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: then they're they're all so good and they're all like 675 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: brilliant minds who are just striving to lessen the amount 676 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: of packaging and their products. There you have to lessen 677 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: the amount of plastic there. You know. They takes steps, right, 678 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: because there's there's only so much that we can do, 679 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: but we're working on doing it and that's three steps 680 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: and gentle care. But god, yeah, this is so exciting. 681 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying this body butter now hit it, hit it. 682 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to get me a seal on top, because 683 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: that's how we do I like it. Clean. We love 684 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: it clean, and it's all clean. It's entirely clean. A 685 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: lot of the I think I can claim this vegan, 686 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: so hey, people care so much about going vegan on 687 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: the inside. Can you guys hear that smr there? That's 688 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: her dipping her fingers. How much do I use? Just? 689 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's good time right wait, yeah, it's thick. 690 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: But like people have this misconception that like clean beauty 691 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: isn't always good or pigmented or you know, thick or 692 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: sparkling or whatever they want it to be. But yeah, 693 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: you're doing yourself. Oh my goodness, glowing. Yeah, it's good 694 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: on the hands. I put this on my face. You can, 695 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, well it's body butter, but you can literally 696 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: use anything like your body like skin true is a 697 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: body gun. You do what you want. It's all clean. 698 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: So like I've tested all of their products because they're 699 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: not own animals, but but I've done it all the 700 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: products everywhere, and they're multi use. Like it's multi purpose. 701 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: You can use their like I crayons on your cheeks 702 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: and create designs, or you can use the body butter 703 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: on your face. It's fine. Sugar scrab I think it's 704 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: in there. Wait is it? If not, I will send 705 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: it over to you. Is that it? Okay? I have 706 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: more to send you that move more. There's a sugar 707 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: scrub in the shower, and my elbows have been crusty 708 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: my entire life and now they're not. That is incredible, 709 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: removed like three layers of skin that needed to go 710 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: years ago. I just want to say, like, all I've 711 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: been using is like I take coconut oil and then 712 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: like brown sugar and it's like its own scrub. So 713 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited to use this. Okay, that's cool, and I 714 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: like that's that's brilliantly like d I when I'm gonna 715 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: be using this, but say what does that? And if 716 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: you're ever feeling amazing same, what can do that for you? 717 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: So it's all natural products really, cocon oil and sugar 718 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: brown sugar are in the ingredient. Smells so good. And 719 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this because you're in front of me. 720 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: There's fregran so that's not added any fregrance. Sometimes fragrance 721 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: can be an irritant to your skin, So a lot 722 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: of added fregnancys fragrances when you're like bumping out your 723 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: face washing yeah about it now, Like it's exciting to 724 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: like move forward to be more eco conscious just in general. Um, 725 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: but like to be about it about your face too, 726 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: that's the thing people see and that was a real 727 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: big insecurity for me growing up. So I want to 728 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: help any girls now, um, just like feel more confident 729 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: in the skin that they're in because they're in it 730 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: for life. Well, you're very passionate about a lot of 731 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: things and that you're going to appreciate this transition. Let's 732 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: talk about your passion for activism. Yes, I am active, 733 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: you're active? Yeah, correct, Yeah, no, I'm I'm excited to 734 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: also align with Michelle Obama again, that's my friend, um 735 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: for when we all vote. Campaign, I'm about to vote 736 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: for the first time. I'm so. I'm so. I've been 737 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: taking you as government class and US history both, so 738 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: I am educating myself. I know we talked all but 739 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of voting, the taxes. I'm all educated 740 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: on this now. Dude. I'm so proud of you because 741 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: I was learning that and did not absorb it properly. 742 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: But I'm so excited to vote, Like, I'm so excited. 743 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: What made you so excited? So many countries are not 744 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: you're not able to share your voice, and I think 745 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: it's so cool, especially at eighteen, and I think if 746 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: we don't use that, that's just right. I'm so proud. 747 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. We just man, I'm so proud of you, girl, 748 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: Like that's I'm just so empowering yourself. Did you feel soft? 749 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: My hands were my God, thank you for that full 750 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: plug of course you. Um. I'm proud of you for 751 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: just being so excited and empowering yourself to like learn 752 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: so cool, especially now we are living I think in 753 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: such a scary but incredible time in history that I 754 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: can't wait to look back and say, I voted for this, 755 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: I did what was right, because like what we're going 756 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: through it's like a movie right right right, And you're 757 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna tell your grandkids in future, like, yeah, I voted. Girl. 758 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: If I don't pop out a child that has the 759 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: same mind as you, girl, just dryin. You are so brilliant. 760 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm so glad though that this is the future of 761 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: the future is bright and you are voting and you're 762 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: making sure your boys is heard and you recognize all 763 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: that that's all you can do that you can have 764 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: to do your part and so many getting your friends 765 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: together and like having a voting party because I really 766 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: appreciate that, honestly, that would be fun. Okay, make it Wait? 767 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: What if you like didn't event, someone to tell you 768 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: something real quick called the prom challenge right now and 769 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: it's going on. It's MTV is partnering with when we 770 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: all vote, and as a coach when we all vote, 771 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: I can tell you all the details if you you 772 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: get your school together to like get crazy, get like 773 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: partied up about voter registration and like do it so creatively, 774 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: which I know you can do. Um, they're going to 775 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: be able to cover your prom and like have talent 776 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: at your prom, And that would be so dope to 777 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: have you get rewarded for being excited about something that 778 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: you're already going to do. So why not even why 779 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: not do it? Why not do it? Emailing my principle 780 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: after this, do it up to five dollars per prom 781 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: or excited for problem I've been looking forward to for 782 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: some It's a good mixture. It's a good mixture. Eighteen 783 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: What do you trying? Eighteen? Always the eleventh, What if 784 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: I just did a dress a little like ballots? Because 785 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: that also so sometimes, so like if that would be 786 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: kind of fun and you'd make it so easy on 787 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: me to choose the winner of that challenge, because I'm 788 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: going to help with that. All right, Um, if you 789 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: do a problem word, I'll put it a good word. 790 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: Awesome text, Michelle, all right, so you just change it 791 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: number again. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming 792 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: on my podcast. I'm so excited. I'm so excited for 793 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: you and just the immense amount of growth that you've 794 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: already experienced at the stage, but also just to see 795 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: where you go and I will catch up with you 796 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: a year from now. How about that. That'd be really cool. 797 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: Let's do it. I want to follow up see where 798 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: we've both done, right right. Oh, you're gonna you're gonna 799 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: talk that whole time. We're gonna do so much. I'm 800 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: so excited for you, so thank you for having me. 801 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: I'm so honored that year because I've been watching for 802 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: literally five years. Okay, mutual stocking NATO. Yeah perfect, Thanks dude. 803 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's 804 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: episode with the podcast. I hope you liked it. Thank 805 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: you Lisa so much for coming on. Make sure you 806 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: watch listen stay tuned to all of her projects. She 807 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: has a lot of them coming up. 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