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Speaker 3: Oh, rob G, that's right, Rob Wow.

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Speaker 1: Forget that other side of the glass, Alex. He's jumping

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Speaker 1: over here. Matter of fact, rob G, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if you're jumping over here, jumping over there?

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Speaker 4: Are you doing two? Three jobs? What are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: Are you just am I just getting this version of you,

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Speaker 1: the on air version of you.

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Speaker 5: You know what, You get a little bit of everything

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Speaker 5: because we got the dream Team in the back now,

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Speaker 5: the big a Alex tyshirt in between podcast posts and

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Speaker 5: Ian up hopping to Bruce the show.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Ian came in and already you know, Ian was feeling

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Speaker 1: himself on a Friday. Ian told you what he might

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Speaker 1: or might not do. He said he I might come

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Speaker 1: in there, I might do this, I might not. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's Friday. We'll see how I feel it is the

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Speaker 1: couple kelvin Washington. That's right, Rob G in the building

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Speaker 1: in for Rob Parker, who, of course Rob is on

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Speaker 1: vacation joining baseball ball parks all around this country. He'll

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Speaker 1: be back soon enough, so hopefully he's enjoying himself. It's

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Speaker 1: been a good week, Rob G. We've had a handful

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Speaker 1: of different people in so and a lot of course

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Speaker 4: And we got a lot to get you, by the way,

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Speaker 4: Rob G.

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Speaker 1: The producer RG for him on Social ID couple FSR

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Speaker 1: and k dub live for myself like to welcome in

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Speaker 1: the odd couple crew. We can't do this amazing show

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Speaker 1: without them, I guess Ian oupidated Rob G. I don't

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Speaker 1: know I was talking to you today as a producer.

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Speaker 1: I don't know half half and half producers today getting

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Speaker 1: you ready for the show. Then we got dj Ali

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Speaker 1: Alex our engine there extraordin there who.

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Speaker 5: Guilted you and to buy pizza for everybody.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at Alex. I wasn't gonna bring that up. Guilted.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. Hold on, let me let me

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Speaker 4: get in a college.

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Speaker 1: Let me I walk in today and there's a couple

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Speaker 1: way he's just gonna get pizzas without me. You or

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Speaker 1: So we'll be ordering pizzas today, Alex. He's gonna cost you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to show me a workout regiment. So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to give me like a ten minute

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, all right, We got, of

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Speaker 1: course Steven Sega gonna keep you updated on what's happening

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Speaker 1: around the sports world as well, so a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to. We got Andy Larson gonna join us cover

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Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large for the

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake Tribune.

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Speaker 4: I don't know has A's Bailey showed up yet be here,

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Speaker 4: y'all draft me, but we'll find out about that.

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Speaker 4: Twenty plus years. Some we'll say, some.

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Speaker 1: Rearranging, house cleft North, some house cleaning happening up north.

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Speaker 1: So a lot to get you. So buckle up for

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Speaker 1: the next few hours. We're gonna have a great one.

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Speaker 1: So Happy Friday to you and thank you for rocking

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Speaker 4: Rob G. We've been talking about Cooper Flagg over the last.

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Speaker 1: School several weeks obviously, but this week especially, And you

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Speaker 1: Again after last night, one more time, congratulations to all

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Speaker 4: Amazing moment for them.

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Speaker 1: Again, I say they they've worked their entire lives to

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, big fact. I mean just a couple of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how much of those guys play in the NBA?

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Speaker 1: Just think about it's crazy, right, and to be there

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Speaker 1: They just drafted this kid in the forty ninth round

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Speaker 1: it's just an amazing accomplishment. So I don't ever want

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Speaker 1: With that being said though Cooper flag now is the

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Speaker 1: Harrison is the luckiest man on earth, the most well

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Speaker 1: We'll take care, but you get the number one pick.

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Speaker 4: You know how we do.

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Speaker 1: You saw what happened with Zion. You saw what happen

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's well informed or the luckiest man,

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Speaker 1: And the thing that he said Nico Harrison, which was

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Speaker 4: This is almost like movie was that Looper? You ever

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Speaker 4: I never seen Looper? I and you saw Looper? Right, Alex, No,

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Speaker 4: you ain't see yet. You saw Looper? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Bruce Willis And what's the other guy, the young kid

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Speaker 1: who played him?

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Speaker 4: Love it? Love it?

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Speaker 1: Hewitt, Joseph Gordon, love it yeah him. So it's like

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Speaker 1: in the future but in the past, but in the

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Speaker 1: see the past with him, and it's confusing. And that's

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Speaker 1: what Nico Harrison is opera around. He is playing Looper

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Speaker 1: where he says, we're gonna be good. Now, we're gonna win, now,

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Speaker 1: I don't I buy what he's trying to sell me

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Speaker 1: here's a video of this kid who's been playing his

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Speaker 1: And I said, ad first ballot Hall of Famer. You

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Speaker 1: you go, oh, nice, Kyrie Irving, first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: You know what he does? You said, ooh.

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Speaker 1: Then I go on to some young guys Lively in

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Speaker 1: Washington, Really nice player. You like what you see on paper?

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Speaker 1: My thing is number one. Kyrie Irving isn't playing right now.

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Speaker 4: So I don't buy.

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Speaker 1: But he has to sell something to the fan base.

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Speaker 4: But I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm just we would be worried about the way they're constructed,

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Speaker 1: been my concern. But there's other points that you can

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Speaker 5: And the most recent example we've seen of this is

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Speaker 5: If you watch that team, they fell ass backwards into it.

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Speaker 5: They tried so hard to say James Wiseman, Jonathan kaminga

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Speaker 5: in contention with Steph clay Andre when that run took off.

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Speaker 5: None of those three guys were important, the young guys.

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Speaker 5: It was the old Wiley vets. Jordan Poole was a revelation.

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Speaker 5: lay in the first round, heavy on the Wolves, and yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 5: and Andrew Wiggins finally realized his full potential. He only

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Speaker 5: you could argue he was their second best player during

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Speaker 5: that playoff run. And the problem that you run into

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Speaker 5: and this HiT's going to be Anthony Davis, who has

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Speaker 5: a ring, so he knows that he wants one more

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Speaker 5: than our lady. You guys want to set the first one.

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Speaker 5: Klay Thompson, who has held bent on proving that Golden

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Speaker 5: State made a mistake by low balling him in a

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Speaker 5: contract offer. Kyrie Irving reportedly is gonna try to rush

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Speaker 5: back as soon as possible. Whether that's you know, smart

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Speaker 5: And if you were in what was it the New

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Speaker 5: Jersey area, he was speaking of you high school commencement today? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Did he over under no I'm not gonna do do it?

436
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Speaker 4: Do it?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Rob, when I was at this school without the

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Speaker 5: Hall of Famer, if my name's over there, my name's over.

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Speaker 1: There, and look what I said, Look what I did,

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Speaker 1: And then you know when I was used to sit

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Speaker 1: right there, and it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, So are you gonna tell us something about

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Speaker 4: the journey? Oh god? And it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I've happened to brow this print out picture of me

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 9: By the way, mlbbro dot com. If you want more information,

447
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Speaker 9: that's the hat I'm wearing right now with this convincement.

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Speaker 9: Oh if you talk it though, and some of you

449
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Speaker 9: in about five years, I'll see you.

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Speaker 4: What's the line, Alex with the ID. If it's a

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Speaker 4: sideway ID, it's not for me.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we missed your all right, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna get to we we don't have we don't have

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Speaker 1: time to get to now. But Cooper Flag was saying

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Speaker 1: Rob Gi that he feels blessed to not have to

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Speaker 1: be the centerpiece. And it's interesting because so many draft picks.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's any more prevalent than two positions,

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Speaker 1: whether you're the star pick a Cooper flag, a zion.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA, or a star quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Because if you're Bryce young and it's like everybody know that,

461
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Speaker 1: the whole city is excited. You know, if you're Caleb Williams,

462
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Speaker 1: the whole city is excited. Everybody you're getting ready to

463
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Speaker 1: come be this thing. And it's so hard. You know,

464
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Speaker 1: it's so hard to change a franchise. It's so hard

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Speaker 1: to be that.

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Speaker 4: Mind.

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Speaker 1: You in Cooper's case, you're eighteen, or maybe some other

468
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Speaker 1: guys are nineteen or you're twenty, and an entire city

469
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Speaker 1: is like, hey, come change everything that this organization is

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Speaker 1: general manager of this president of basketball. Everybody's been not

471
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Speaker 1: being able to do, not these veterans, but all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you have to come do this. And I

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Speaker 1: just think it's it's such a difficult position. So of

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Speaker 1: him understanding that he's privileged, I think I think he

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Speaker 1: I like the position he's in where he gets to

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Speaker 1: go in learn they have you mentioned the roster.

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Speaker 4: They have a good team.

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Speaker 1: They should be good, maybe not great, maybe not a

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Speaker 1: top five, seeds sixty, but a good team, good coach.

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Speaker 1: And he gets to walk into that. Right, you don't

481
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Speaker 1: have to go save the Wizards.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what his outlook on this thing. It's

483
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Speaker 5: all very mature, to be honest with you, but in

484
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Speaker 5: many ways you could argue it's like the anti Ace Bailey,

485
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Speaker 5: where he's like, Hey, I want to come in and

486
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Speaker 5: be part of a team. I want to win. I

487
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Speaker 5: want to do whatever it takes for this franchise, for

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Speaker 5: this group. Based on what we're hearing in the reporting

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Speaker 5: around ast Bailey is I want all the buckets, I

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Speaker 5: want all the shots. I want the least amount of competition.

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure I can get mine so

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Speaker 5: I can get this second contract and get paid. It's

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Speaker 5: incredible that you see the Well basically become the two

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Speaker 5: hallmark marquee names of this NBA draft, and they seem

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Speaker 5: to have completely opposite viewpoints the league and their career.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what, man, We're gonna have an

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Speaker 1: extended conversation about what's happening with A's Bailey a little

498
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Speaker 1: bit later in hour three, So looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Steve right now, because Andy

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Speaker 1: Larson on the other side of what's trending.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Steve, Hello, there, Angels manager Ron Washington will remain

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Speaker 10: on medical leave for the rest of the season. Washington

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Speaker 10: is seventy three in his second year there. The Angels

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Speaker 10: have one of the late games, hosting Washington. The Mets

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Speaker 10: are at Pittsburgh in the bottom of the second and scoreless.

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Speaker 10: The New York Mets are first in the NL East

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Speaker 10: half game over the Phillies. By the way, Philadelphia is

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Speaker 10: at Atlanta tonight. News from the Mets not good today. Predictably,

509
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Speaker 10: they pitcher Griffin Canning had surgery for a torn achilles

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Speaker 10: Rain delay at the start for Minnesota at Detroit rays

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Speaker 10: her out to a two to nothing lead. At Baltimore,

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Speaker 10: Yankee scoreless in the second against the A's Yanks first

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Speaker 10: in the AL East half game over Tampa Bay. Toronto

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Speaker 10: is three back. Blue Jays are leading one nothing at

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Speaker 10: Boston in the bottom of the first. Boston Red Sox

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Speaker 10: have lost five games in a row. Five WNBA contests tonight,

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Speaker 10: including Minnesota at twelve and two about to start at

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Speaker 10: Atlanta and Indiana playing at Dallas. Caitlin Clark out again

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Speaker 10: with a groin injury. US Men's soccer plays its Gold

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Speaker 10: Cup quarterfinal on Sunday against Costa Rica. That'll be on

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Speaker 10: Fox TV from Minnesota. The FIFA Club World Cup quarterfinals

522
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Speaker 10: start on Saturday. The Florida Panthers playoff MVP Sam Bennett

523
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Speaker 10: signed an eight year extension. The NHL and its players

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Speaker 10: Union agreed to an extension of the CBA through twenty thirty.

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Speaker 10: The NHL regular season will increase to eighty four games

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Speaker 10: per team in a year. The Utah Jazz say first

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Speaker 10: round er Ace Bailey will report on Saturday, with a

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Speaker 10: news conference on Sunday. Practice on Monday. The team's rookies

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Speaker 10: will then fly to Summer League from Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, all right, Steve, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I couple covin Washings. He Rob g In for Rob

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Speaker 1: on his funky Flashback Friday. We're joined now by Andy Larson,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Utah Jazz and the NBA at large

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Speaker 1: for The Lake Tribune.

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Speaker 4: Andy B.

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Speaker 1: Larson on X give him a follow Andy. What's up man?

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday?

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Speaker 4: How you doing hey man?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 1: Man? We've just had a little quick conversation about Ace Bailey.

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Speaker 1: We'll have an extended one a little bit later on,

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Speaker 1: but we'll start there. Just what do you make of

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Frace Bailey obviously very talented, is not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue just about his talent as

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag. Some people think more talented than Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 1: But here we are where the story is and just

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Speaker 1: how good he is and how good he can be.

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Speaker 4: It's well, he didn't take any visits.

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Speaker 1: Well now he might not even be showing up to

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Speaker 1: Utah and he didn't want to get drafted by Utah,

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Speaker 1: but yet they still drafted him. What's been up with

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Speaker 1: this journey? And that landed him there with the fifth Pig.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Look, I think it's about the people you put around

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Speaker 7: you a little bit, and it's hard to do that

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Speaker 7: when you're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and now Ace is still

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Speaker 7: only eighteen. But like you know, he's worked with Omar.

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Speaker 7: Cooper is his manager and kind of has been the

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Speaker 7: guy representing him, so representing Ace NBA teams throughout the process,

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Speaker 7: and I you know, I think as someone who's kind

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Speaker 7: of seen himself as a future star for a long time,

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Speaker 7: Omar kind of fought into that and then said, hey,

564
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Speaker 7: we should dictate where you go and ultimately wasn't successful

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Speaker 7: in doing that. You know, I hope that Ace to

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Speaker 7: be drafted by Washington, New Orleans or Brooklyn, and and

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Speaker 7: that wasn't the case. The Jazz, you know, picked him

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Speaker 7: at number five, which I still think is probably a

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Speaker 7: pretty good basketball situation for him. But it seems like, look,

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Speaker 7: you know, the Jazz do hold the cards in this

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Speaker 7: a little bit. And as a result, kind of everyone

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Speaker 7: fell in line over the last twenty four hours say hey, yes,

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Speaker 7: you know Aces coming into Salt Lake City, is going

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Speaker 7: to be working out with the Jazz, you know, in

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Speaker 7: the next two days, doing a press conference on Sunday,

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Speaker 7: right like, this is all happening, and so, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think for Ace, he said all the right things.

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Speaker 7: You know, I talked to Ace at the combine, talked

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Speaker 7: to him on draft Day. I think he's excited just

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Speaker 7: to kind of get to work on the basketball side.

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Speaker 7: It was just for those around him didn't see that

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Speaker 7: Utah was the best place for him. And you know,

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Speaker 7: that's the tough thing about drafts is you don't always

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Speaker 7: get to go where you want to go. It is

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Speaker 7: your career is determined by kind of this random order

586
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Speaker 7: that that makes it so that you go to whatever

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Speaker 7: team picks you.

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Speaker 5: Andy. So one of the big talking points coming into

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Speaker 5: the draft, especially about Utah, was you know, they tried tanking,

590
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Speaker 5: and obviously the lottery balls and I bounced their way.

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Speaker 5: But one thing that they've been trying to do with

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Speaker 5: their new head coach Lori Market and John Collins a

593
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Speaker 5: lot of the guys out there is build a culture

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Speaker 5: that we want to get out from this seller do

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Speaker 5: all the situation we want to build. Forwarding it back

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Speaker 5: to Jazz basketball that was very successful for a very

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Speaker 5: long time, were you say, yeah, So, were you surprised

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Speaker 5: with that? In mind that the guy they ended up shooting,

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Speaker 5: taking at number five was Ace Bailey, who, by all indications,

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Speaker 5: is more about his own career, in his own advancement

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Speaker 5: than he is about building any kind of culture. That

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Speaker 5: part of the reason why he went to Rutgers that

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Speaker 5: is somewhere else, is because he wanted to get his

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Speaker 5: So are you surprised that that was the big? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Two things that I want. I mean, I think the Jazz,

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Speaker 7: as desperately as they want to create a culture, also

607
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Speaker 7: want to create a winning basketball team and just frankly,

608
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Speaker 7: just need more talent, right, neither kind of star level

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Speaker 7: talent that kind of unlocks the rest of the roster

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Speaker 7: to some degree. So I think that was, you know,

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Speaker 7: the primary concern. But look, I've talked to Awesome Angs

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Speaker 7: about this, and he's been pretty clear that the they

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Speaker 7: believe in a failure as a person as well, Like

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Speaker 7: they think he is a gym rat. You know, everyone

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Speaker 7: around as talked about how hard he works and that's

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Speaker 7: how he got to be the shooter and athlete that

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Speaker 7: he has become. So they're not that worried about Ace's personality.

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Speaker 7: They think that like, hey, you know he's Yes he's young,

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Speaker 7: and yes he has some people around him kind of

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Speaker 7: giving bad advice. But ultimately, this is a kid who

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Speaker 7: will work hard and will kind of create and actually

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Speaker 7: even help the culture. So I don't think they see

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Speaker 7: him as like a worry from a culture point of

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Speaker 7: view or a bad fit from creating the culture they

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Speaker 7: want to be. It's just that he young and has

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Speaker 7: you know, agents and managers kind of giving him the

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Speaker 7: wrong advice at this point in his career.

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Speaker 1: Andy Larson, our guest covers of Utah Jazz and NBA

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Speaker 1: for the Salt Lake Tribute. Let me tell you something

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Speaker 1: what I think, guys, I think Danny Ainge if you watched,

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Speaker 1: you know, any Steady documentary or anything about the Celtics

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Speaker 1: when he was there as a player and then obviously

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Speaker 1: when he was running the basketball operations. One thing he

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Speaker 1: learned from you know, and he was even saying he

635
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Speaker 1: was a little bit more cutthroat than red Eyurbuck in

636
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Speaker 1: that he's such a business mind, meaning like, hey, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Like he even knew it was Tinny Go we had

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Speaker 1: on the burden and Mchaelen Parrison, those guys too long, right,

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Speaker 1: he's like I thought they asked me. I told Ray,

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Speaker 1: we need to get rid of him, like he's just

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Speaker 1: that kind of guy. Paul Pierce, rid of Paul Pierce KG.

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Speaker 1: The reason I say, which is the opposite of the Lakers, Andy,

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Speaker 1: as you know, the Lakers will hold on. It's a

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Speaker 1: family run. They just historically not anymore, but they would

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Speaker 1: hold on. The reason I bring that up is I

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Speaker 1: think Danny Ainge is savvy enough to say, there's no

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Speaker 1: way I'm gonna let it. Could have been a number

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Speaker 1: one draft pick and another in another draft, that's how

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Speaker 1: talented he is. Just go to another team and if

650
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: we'll give it a shot for a year to it,

651
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: if I don't like him.

652
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: He can go.

653
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: If he starts pouding on like you, then you can

654
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: go and I'll go get some nice pieces for you.

655
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: I just think that's the way his mind works. He

656
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: he's not overly loyal to a player. I think he

657
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: can like a player and I love him, and he

658
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: can you know, I'm not fully committed to you as

659
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: much as I am winning.

660
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: So am I wrong for that?

661
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's all I literally heard it out his

662
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: own mouth and documentaries and stuff, his approach to this.

663
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he doesn't like the person that he's,

664
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, the the the human being that some of

665
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: these guys are, but he's all about what makes sense

666
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: for the team and the organization.

667
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so, which is you know, kind of

668
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 7: rare to see from a former player. But you're right,

669
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 7: he's as cutthroat as an EGM in the business, and

670
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 7: I think that's what's made him a good GM. You know,

671
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 7: Kevin Garnett pulls Pears trade worked out terrifically for Boston

672
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 7: and then they win for the guys that you know,

673
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 7: Jason Tatum may to get him with when they have

674
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 7: the number one pick to trade back get more picks,

675
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 7: get Jalen Brown, a guy you know not a lot

676
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 7: of people had at that spot in the draft at

677
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 7: that time. Is incredibly good jamming, you know. And yes,

678
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 7: it meant that they traded you know, Isaiah and and

679
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 7: just Isaiah Thomas and some beloved franchise figures, but they

680
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 7: made the move that they thought was best for the team.

681
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 7: And so yeah, you know, I think we see that

682
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 7: a little bit where and as names of the new

683
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 7: president of Basketball Operations in Utah, Danny Ainge is the

684
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 7: CEO of basketball to this kind of goofy title, but

685
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 7: like they are pretty clear that that's kind of what

686
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 7: is what it takes to win in the NBA, is

687
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 7: that cut throw mentality, is going for the younger guys,

688
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 7: is going for players who you think have the chances

689
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 7: to be stars moving forward rather than the stars of yesterday.

690
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 7: So I do think we're seeing that to some extent

691
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 7: with the Jazz with you know, certainly he traded Donovan

692
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: and Mitchell, Donovan, Mitchell and Rudy Gobert away, and you know,

693
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 7: it started this rebuild which has been pretty slow so far,

694
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 7: but maybe ramps up a little bit in the next

695
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 7: couple of years.

696
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 5: Last one for me, Andy Realkld. You mentioned at the

697
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: beginning of the interview that as much as they want

698
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: to build a culture in Utah, they want to get

699
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: back to winning basketball. There's only one problem with that.

700
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 5: As good as this class was in twenty twenty five,

701
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 5: they're talking about the twenty twenty six draft class as

702
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 5: being historically great, especially you know the get from byu

703
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: aj Depantza is supposed to be, you know, one of

704
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: the next feenof right, he's the guy. So I know

705
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 5: that you mentioned that that that Utah doesn't want a

706
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 5: tank because it hasn't really worked out from in the past.

707
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: But they do have about sixty million dollars in expiring

708
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: contracts with John Collins, Collin Sexton, and Jordan Clarks, all

709
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: those guys who have a lot of value I think

710
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 5: to a lot of teams. Could you see a situation

711
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: where the Ages kind of go back on their word

712
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 5: And I know we said we want to win right now,

713
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 5: but have you seen the draft class in twenty twenty six.

714
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 9: Yeah.

715
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 7: Look, I mean they said they don't want to tank

716
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 7: next year. I don't think that necessarily means they want

717
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 7: to win next year, right, I think that means that

718
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 7: they want to trade those guys away that they had

719
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 7: to frankly just sit out when they were healthy last

720
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 7: year in order to lose this minime. Is possible to

721
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 7: try to get Cooper Flagg. That didn't work, but it's

722
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 7: you know, Ryan Smith, owner is the owner of the

723
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 7: Jazz is byu Alum, Danny hbyu Alum, like these guys

724
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 7: know a j deponsa and what he brings from what

725
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 7: you can bring to the Jazz. Then you have Cameron Boozer,

726
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 7: who Carlos Boozer is now a Jazz scout. And then

727
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 7: you have the fact that the Jazz have a top

728
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 7: eight protected tick, which say owe Oklahoma City if they

729
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 7: are ninth or below in the draft next year. So

730
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 7: you know, I don't think that the Jazz have real,

731
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 7: really any intention to be competitive good next year, you know,

732
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 7: and it's they the West is so good that I

733
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 7: think they can be in that bottom four of the

734
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 7: West pretty easily. So you know, I think they can

735
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 7: kind of accomplish both gools where hey, you trade away

736
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 7: those veteran guys, you allow the young players on your

737
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 7: roster to play, you're still probably not all that good

738
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 7: in the scheme of things, and you have a pretty

739
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 7: good lottery chance that one of the top three guys

740
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty six ass that, yeah, do make

741
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 7: a difference, and you pair them with a Bailey, and

742
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, maybe you've got something cooking.

743
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a long time before somebody's in that

744
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: kitchen cooking.

745
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: Andy. I don't know. I don't know.

746
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner ain't happening. You know, the big Sunday cookout,

747
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: It and happened anytime soon.

748
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: Up there.

749
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: I think it says a lot that they gave Will

750
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 7: Hardy a six year extension, right like, yep, it's gonna

751
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 7: be a hang.

752
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: Around for a little what din't he winning too much?

753
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: Like two years ago? And hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

754
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: You better relax. We were the two seed for too long.

755
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the ten where we need to be.

756
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, you're exactly right.

757
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: All right, Andy Man, appreciate your time, Enjoy the rest

758
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: of your Friday and your weekend.

759
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: Brother, Thank you so much.

760
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate you guys.

761
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: All right, So on the way too, so Friday, I'll

762
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: telling you we feel good Friday, Funky Flashback Friday. But

763
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: sometimes life throws your limons and you try to make lemonade,

764
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: but it comes out like apple juice. It ain't really

765
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: working out. Rob G's had one of those days. We're

766
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: gonna be there for our brother robb G. On the

767
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: other side. It is the couple. Robb G is in

768
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: for Rob. Stick with your boys. It's Fox Sports Radio.

769
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: We just got all deep man Fox Sports Radio. It

770
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,400
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771
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Speaker 1: Parker on this funky flash Back Friday, and thank you

772
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780
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781
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: up with the top of your screen. We're kind of

782
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: up against it, Robi, so I do want to get

783
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: to this quickly. Austin reeves as basically declined a mac

784
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: extension for the Lakers that would have paid him eighty

785
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: nine million dollars over the next four years. So you're

786
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: talking a little. Twenty twenty two is twenty three twenty

787
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: two bucks, twenty two million dollars a year, which is

788
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: obviously good money. But there's a lot of guys. I'm

789
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: sure he his agent probably look at and say, well,

790
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: he's getting that kind of money. Yep, I know we

791
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: can get that much.

792
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 5: Josh Gitty's about to get thirty million dollars.

793
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: Year, right, Josh Kitty.

794
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Josh Giddy is a very versatile Player's nice, but here's

795
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: no massive separation between he and Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves

796
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: putting up his career numbers and assists, he gave you

797
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: twenty a game, gave you six assists, five boards as well,

798
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: so and gave you almost three threes a game played

799
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: very well. Can control the ball, can get other people

800
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: with the shots. I'm gonna get straight to my thing

801
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: on this. And they say he has all intentions of

802
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: being a Laker, He's come out plenty of times. I

803
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: love LA don't want to leave it. I love the team,

804
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: I love the city. I love the golf here. If

805
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: you know him, he loves the golf. I got a

806
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: chance to ask him, I said, while he slice, and

807
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: he was like, stay on top of it, man, And

808
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: I said all that to say, well, with the new

809
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: ownership rob Gi, Mark Walters and the crew and the

810
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: way the aprons are going, I said, the NBA is

811
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: turning into the Hell's kitchen talking about aprons and cooking

812
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: and all that with the second apron and whatnot. To me,

813
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: I look at this as now you're gonna have to

814
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: put the money where your mouth is, meaning all right,

815
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: do you want to remain a Laker? And also do

816
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: you want to have a chance to compete, because part

817
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: of that may be like I just did today, like

818
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: you do all the time for yourself. I just got

819
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: a haircut. You might have to take a haircut now.

820
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: The Lakers will love you At twenty two million dollars, right,

821
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: makes sense. But forty million dollars forty two million dollars,

822
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of his game, bro, I can't

823
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: pay you all that, especially with the aprons of the

824
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: way thing is, especially knowing I'm gonna have to just

825
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: resign Luca here soon, and especially knowing it's still not

826
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: enough this team comprised. I need more. I gotta get more, guys.

827
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I can't pay you that kind of money. So if

828
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: you love LA, we can work out a deal. I

829
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: love you, and I love you with a three thirty

830
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: million thirty one million, okay, cool, I love you with

831
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: a three Austin Reeves, but I can't love you more

832
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: than that. And to me, if you're really saying what

833
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: you want, you want to stick around here, you want

834
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: to have a chance could beat for championships, then that's

835
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: what it's gonna have to be.

836
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the offer that they made on the table,

837
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 5: which is the most, it's not like they wanted to

838
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 5: only offer them this manch This is the most they

839
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: could offer him right now because the weird contract was

840
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 5: twenty two million a year next offseason when he outside

841
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: of his contract. So this time next summer he's gonna

842
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: be eligible for five years to forty six Nah, broh, Yeah,

843
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a no for me, doc. So to

844
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 5: your point, I love Austin Reeves at fourteen million dollars.

845
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: I love Austin Reeves at twenty four million dollars. I

846
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 5: think I like him at thirty. I don't know how

847
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 5: I feel at thirty four to thirty five, like, And

848
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 5: that's gonna be an interesting situation for the Lakers and

849
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 5: for a lot of teams moving forward. Is the way

850
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 5: this second April thing is. And we saw that with

851
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: Boston right now, Uh huh. Drew Holliday is absolutely worth

852
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 5: the contract that he's getting, you know, right now, the

853
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: problem is he's not worth it to me in Boston.

854
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: And when I got to pay Jason Tatum fifty five,

855
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 5: I gotta pay Kaylem Brown fifty five.

856
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: Like.

857
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 5: There's not enough money to go around to give you

858
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 5: what you think that you're worth. And that's gonna be

859
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: fascinating to see because Austin Reeves is very quickly gonna

860
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: go from one of the great bargains in the NBA

861
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: to either appropriately paid or even overpaid in about a month.

862
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: That it's interesting to see how Laker fans and NBA

863
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 5: fans are going to respond to.

864
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 4: That and be careful.

865
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Speaker 1: And I think he wants to be or I truly

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Speaker 1: believe him because I think he is wise enough to know,

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Speaker 1: especially because he didn't. He never thought this was gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: So this is all gravy. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: the success. I'm a Laker and this is all just

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Speaker 1: a gravy for him. But don't go to the Wizards

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Speaker 1: putting up twenty five and nobody know you