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Speaker 4: Let's dive into it. I believe so you're an enthusiast
Speaker 4: of Cardano.
Speaker 5: Yes, I am, Actually I've been. I've actually been invested
Speaker 5: since twenty seventeen, and like initially I was like all
Speaker 5: minute for the money, but then when I actually looked
Speaker 5: more into the project, I appreciate it, and I've kind
Speaker 5: of always appreciated so I went through the whole thing,
Speaker 5: through the whole bear market. Even my husband and I
Speaker 5: even were investing while it was down as well. So
Speaker 5: definitely grateful that it's gone on such a nice run
Speaker 5: right now. And I think mainly, like I don't know,
Speaker 5: one of the main things I like about seeing this
Speaker 5: company is more it's more along the lines that I'm
Speaker 5: watching it grow right like it's birthing, is going through
Speaker 5: its growing pains, people are slinging its name through the mud,
Speaker 5: and it's laid on its projects, but now like things
Speaker 5: are rolling out, including the Mary Hart work that just
Speaker 5: happened today. So yeah, there's I don't know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot to say. So if you guys have any questions,
Speaker 5: I'm definitely open to answer everything you have.
Speaker 2: So for the average beginner who has no idea what
Speaker 2: Cardna is, because we were invested in it too until yeah,
Speaker 2: we're still invested in it in since twenty seventeen. So
Speaker 2: it's funny that you said you are what is the
Speaker 2: functionality of it? Because that's one of the things we
Speaker 2: spoke about on Wednesday in our crypto classes, Like, every
Speaker 2: coin has a functionality, So what does the white paper
Speaker 2: say about card Dona what's his functionality?
Speaker 5: Okay, so as of right now, the goal that Charles
Speaker 5: has it pretty much takes on the world. Right, it's
Speaker 5: going to be its own ecosystem. I'm not sure if
Speaker 5: you're aware of the things that he has gone on
Speaker 5: in Africa, but he did sign an agreement with Ethiopia.
Speaker 5: Actually I have a written down where is that? So yeah,
Speaker 5: he's signed an you which is just a memorandum of
Speaker 5: understanding with the Ethiopian Ministry of Science and Technology. So
Speaker 5: and that's going to be on an agricultural front, and
Speaker 5: he's they've already been doing that with with beef hair
Speaker 5: in America as well as New Balance, the shoe company.
Speaker 5: And it's really a lot of on chain things, so
Speaker 5: you know you're getting unique and genuine products. You know
Speaker 5: exactly where it comes from because it's on the blockchain.
Speaker 5: And as of today, there's going to be native token,
Speaker 5: so it's literally its own ecosystem. And they're also going
Speaker 5: to have an er C twenty converter. So if there's
Speaker 5: any projects that are on Ethereum or anything like that,
Speaker 5: and they want to move over to Cardinal, they will
Speaker 5: be able to do so. So now it's getting to
Speaker 5: the point where you can actually have your own token
Speaker 5: on the blockchain.
Speaker 2: So originally it was it was built on ethereum, but
Speaker 2: now they're having you know, it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't built on ethereum. It's its own, its own.
Speaker 3: Thing, Yes, gotcha.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting A da cardnost I invested in uh
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, maybe twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. I have forty
Speaker 4: eight hundred coins of Cardno, so I'm enthusiastic about it,
Speaker 4: and it's good because it wasn't really doing too much
Speaker 4: for a long period of time. Sleep my coins that
Speaker 4: actually I actually spoke about this on the podcast. My
Speaker 4: coins are actually stuck on Binance. That's a different story.
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta.
Speaker 3: Get them out.
Speaker 4: But so for anybody that may not be familiar with
Speaker 4: what we're talking about right now, you see you hear
Speaker 4: us talk about cryptocurrency a lot, and you hear us
Speaker 4: talking about obviously bigcoin and Ethereum, but there's other cryptos
Speaker 4: out there. It's called all coins. So the all coins,
Speaker 4: so Bitcoin is like the big dog. I think it's
Speaker 4: six sixty percent dominant in the space, right, So that
Speaker 4: means that the whole market, Bitcoin takes up sixty percent,
Speaker 4: but there's thousands of other coins that make up that
Speaker 4: that forty percent.
Speaker 3: So you have Ethereum, you have you have.
Speaker 4: Tether, which is the stable coin, you have Bitcoin cash,
Speaker 4: you have XRP, you have light coin, a bunch of
Speaker 4: different things and they all have different functionalities. And at
Speaker 4: the time, in twenty seventeen, Cardonald was getting a lot
Speaker 4: of publicity and it was it was supposed to be
Speaker 4: like the next one. It was like Cardonal to the moon,
Speaker 4: and it never really reached its full potential. But you still,
Speaker 4: you still are holding out hope that it can still
Speaker 4: be the leader, one of the leaders in the space.
Speaker 5: Huh oh, it's definitely gonna be one of the leaders.
Speaker 5: And like I said, I've been watching their journey a lot,
Speaker 5: so I've I've seen a lot of the hardships and
Speaker 5: things that they're going through as a company. And one
Speaker 5: of their hugest accomplishments that I took part of initially,
Speaker 5: and their test net was their Dadalus wallet for staking.
Speaker 5: So if you're not staking your ADA, I think you
Speaker 5: should you get about You get an average of five
Speaker 5: point five percent a year on those and the return
Speaker 5: is always on ATA, so you'll get that. And obviously
Speaker 5: the price of ADA is growing. So even if you
Speaker 5: end up with a few tokens here and there, because
Speaker 5: it is you get rewarded every five days. Your tokens
Speaker 5: are not locked. You are free to do whatever you
Speaker 5: want with your tokens, Like you can decide to steak
Speaker 5: and unstake the very same day, and like there's no
Speaker 5: penalty or anything like that. It's really really easy. And
Speaker 5: once you have that going, you just you pick out
Speaker 5: a stakpool. I will suggest going for something that's unsaturated,
Speaker 5: meaning they're not at their full level and they're looking
Speaker 5: for more delegators, mainly because if you go with a
Speaker 5: smaller pool, there's a better chance you will get better rewards,
Speaker 5: because if something's already saturated, then the rewards who are
Speaker 5: going to be split between all the people that are
Speaker 5: in there. So staking is what you do instead of
Speaker 5: mining bitcoin is mining on their well that's how you
Speaker 5: get bitcoin. You get it from mining and with the
Speaker 5: Orebors protocol, which is actually it is from a cardonald
Speaker 5: they are the creators and from my understanding, Polka Dot
Speaker 5: is also using the ORB protocol. It is open source,
Speaker 5: so they are definitely for you to do that. Charles
Speaker 5: has it out there for everyone to do and Charles
Speaker 5: Hoskinson is the creator and he was also the co
Speaker 5: founder of Ethereum as well. So you will put your
Speaker 5: wallet in or you will put your ada into the
Speaker 5: wallet and you will stake it. And staking just means
Speaker 5: that they're going to be holding your tokens. And since
Speaker 5: they're holding your tokens, you're going they're going to be
Speaker 5: using those tokens to get more tokens, and from those,
Speaker 5: they're going to pay you for holding those tokens. It's
Speaker 5: kind of like when you go to a bank and
Speaker 5: you put your money in the bank and are like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, we'll give you if you keep your money
Speaker 5: in the bank, we'll give you two percent a year
Speaker 5: or something similar as that, only they're giving you and
Speaker 5: half person of the year.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Quick question.
Speaker 2: So a lot of the adoption piece for the cryptocurrency
Speaker 2: space comes when large corporations step in.
Speaker 5: Yea.
Speaker 2: So we saw a square do that with bitcoin. We
Speaker 2: even heard Stellar when we saw IBM get involved. Is
Speaker 2: there anybody that you know of now that is getting
Speaker 2: involved with cardinal or has been involved.
Speaker 5: Well, there are several countries in Africa, and I mentioned
Speaker 5: the Ethiopian Ministry and their agricultural segment, and there are
Speaker 5: a few more. I kind of wish I had more
Speaker 5: of Africa. However, they are teaching students how to program
Speaker 5: using their computing language tschool and it's built into Plutus,
Speaker 5: so they're actually creating and they have been creating over
Speaker 5: these past years students and educators that are familiar with
Speaker 5: their programming languages. So when everything is actually signed and
Speaker 5: agreed with the government, which is actually he's stating, is
Speaker 5: moving along quite nicely, and he's expecting some more information
Speaker 5: this month, he said March. So we should be expecting
Speaker 5: some more movement with Africa soon enough. And I'm excited
Speaker 5: about it. So the fact that we have our the
Speaker 5: devs are now able to start writing code, and now
Speaker 5: we're having more people that are able that are known
Speaker 5: this particular language to actually write on Coredono, it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 5: And that's just one school of the civil out there.
Speaker 5: So as much too as much to look forward to,
Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure what they have in store, but
Speaker 5: now they have the ability to create whatever they want
Speaker 5: to create, and I'm pretty excited. And they with Marlowe
Speaker 5: is another program that they have you can actually drag
Speaker 5: and drop your script which is very simple. Like there's
Speaker 5: several different commuting computing languages. I wish like everyone just
Speaker 5: explored it. I don't know, it's really hard. Well, I
Speaker 5: think bitcoin is nice. It has high fees, it's slow,
Speaker 5: the scaling, it can get expensive. I don't think it's horrible.
Speaker 5: I think it's still really good to hold. But do
Speaker 5: I think it's the absolute future. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: don't know. Why I choose ATA over Bitcoin is all
Speaker 5: of those reasons that they're actually able to accomplish this
Speaker 5: and there's no one in bitcoin, there's no one over
Speaker 5: in bitcoin and saying hey, let's go to this country
Speaker 5: and let's develop and help this country and let him
Speaker 5: learn tech in this different language, and let's give them
Speaker 5: the ability to create whateverything.
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Speaker 5: in bitcoin does that. Bitcoin is just there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. Like I said, I hope. I'm hoping
Speaker 4: for the best. I personally have over four thousand coins
Speaker 4: so if I can ever get my actual coins out
Speaker 4: and if it does go, yeah, I got like five
Speaker 4: thousand dollars just sitting there. Now, it's not the password.
Speaker 4: Is Finance stopped. They for American citizens. They stopped letting
Speaker 4: people like do anything.
Speaker 3: So I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4: It's there. It's not like frozen anything. But I can't
Speaker 4: actually transfer the money out. I can't trade, I can't
Speaker 4: sell it. I can't do anything. It's just like there.
Speaker 5: So I recently transferred some out of finance because I
Speaker 5: was in a similar situation, and I was flag saying
Speaker 5: that I can't use it again because I'm a US citizen.
Speaker 5: But right before I got that warning, I was able
Speaker 5: to move things is around. They didn't stop or anything
Speaker 5: like that. I wonder, I wonder if you can send
Speaker 5: them an email. I'm sure you have.
Speaker 3: I got it. I got it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a VPN.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I should have said that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, we went over that. Yeah, we went
Speaker 4: over to you. I just gotta have enough time. But
Speaker 4: it's all good. I'm not I'm not too concerned about it.
Speaker 3: But well, it's problems. It's just money.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I appreciated anything else that you want to say before you,
Speaker 4: before you head out, any other cryptos that you like
Speaker 4: or you just uh, I have other ones.
Speaker 5: They're not all performing as well. Unfortunately, I did. I
Speaker 5: hold some z r X. They came in, they came
Speaker 5: in decently. I was expecting to get at least like
Speaker 5: a four or five dollars push out of it, and
Speaker 5: it's just kind of hanging out at a dollar twenty
Speaker 5: and I have try. I'm really hoping that it could
Speaker 5: get up to like, I don't know, forty fifty cents.
Speaker 5: I mean, at least break your all time high. Like
Speaker 5: I'm really like, he can do it.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that we had We had Tron
Speaker 3: when it hit this all time high.
Speaker 2: I was telling everybody I could about it. I was
Speaker 2: watching this guy on periscope.
Speaker 3: I was reading his tweets. I'm like, we gotta get this.
Speaker 2: And we had it at I think it was a
Speaker 2: fourth of a penny, didn't even reached one cent, and
Speaker 2: then one night it ran up to twenty eight cent
Speaker 2: and my phone was blowing up.
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, oh, what.
Speaker 2: Is in those days haven't come?
Speaker 5: It was exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I knew.
Speaker 4: I knew Tron was in trouble when I saw Justin's
Speaker 4: son blow is his nose with it?
Speaker 3: He did something that was extremely weird.
Speaker 4: He blew his nose with like a something right like
Speaker 4: McDonald's bag or something like that on an interview, and
Speaker 4: I said, Troy, we're in trouble with this.
Speaker 3: And then ever since, that's not a good look the founder.
Speaker 3: But but that's that's that's that's a key point.
Speaker 4: If anybody doesn't know Justin, Justin's son is the guy
Speaker 4: that start that founded TRON. He's like one of these
Speaker 4: like billionaire young young kids out of China. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I think he paid like Warren Buffett. Yeah, head lunch
Speaker 4: with He paid Warren buff for four million to have
Speaker 4: lunch with him. He's like crazy. But when I long
Speaker 4: story short, researched the founder and a lot, a lot.
Speaker 4: This is the same with the stock market. Troy was
Speaker 4: really enthusiastic about TRON and I just started having reservations
Speaker 4: when I started to research this guy, and he seemed
Speaker 4: like he gave me con artists vibes.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't want to call him a scam artist, but
Speaker 4: he just gave me that type of energy. And it's
Speaker 4: been downhill ever since, so I still have troying too.
Speaker 4: I has another coin I can't get off of buying it.
Speaker 4: So hopefully, hopefully one of these days, these cryptos though
Speaker 4: all my crypto. You have so many cryptos that I
Speaker 4: have more cryptos than I have stocked.
Speaker 2: It was a top twenty it's still a top twenty
Speaker 2: five coin, and it actually moved off etherym as his
Speaker 2: own network. So yeah, the reason I was so enthusiastic
Speaker 2: about it was because it had the gaming space, and
Speaker 2: so one of the things that it allows you to
Speaker 2: do is get tokens as a reward. Same the same
Speaker 2: thing we kind of saw in the space now where
Speaker 2: kids are on roadblocks and they have to pay to
Speaker 2: get better at the game. He was using his token
Speaker 2: to get better in the gaming sentence, and so once
Speaker 2: I realized that was happening, I'm like, gaming is the
Speaker 2: way they have their own platform. We gotta go trun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was for like three weeks that was as
Speaker 3: it was a good idea. It was a good idea.
Speaker 4: It's still a good idea in theory because it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, these coins have all usages, so the gaming
Speaker 4: we talk about, like Hero, it's all related that's why
Speaker 4: you gotta learn like and like so market Mondays is
Speaker 4: not a one trick pony. We talk about so many
Speaker 4: different stuff, but it's all investing in cryptocurrency. I mean,
Speaker 4: you blind if you can't see what's going on with
Speaker 4: crypto right now, and you would be a fool if
Speaker 4: you didn't at the very least educate yourself on the space.
Speaker 4: That's why we did the open enrollment last week on crypto.
Speaker 4: That's how we're talking about this for a little bit
Speaker 4: today because it's not going anywhere and it's only going
Speaker 4: to get bigger. So when you see people investing in
Speaker 4: Bigcoin and ethereum, it's not the only two, you would
Speaker 4: be you would you would be an idiot if you
Speaker 4: think that just two coins are gonna be the only
Speaker 4: coins that's ever going to survive one hundred years for now.
Speaker 4: So the idea with Tron is that you know, originally
Speaker 4: they were going to be the token for video games.
Speaker 4: And that's what really made a lot of sense to
Speaker 4: me because it's like, the video game industry is so huge.
Speaker 4: So we talk about like Hero, which is a video
Speaker 4: game etf So I'm like, all right, if millions of
Speaker 4: people are playing video games and they have a token
Speaker 4: that's dedicated towards the video game industry, and that that
Speaker 4: makes sense. That's something that I understand and I can
Speaker 4: see how this makes sense. If it's like one common
Speaker 4: currency for video gamers all across the world, whether you're
Speaker 4: in South Africa, whether in Japan, or whether you're in America,
Speaker 4: and you just have one common currency that you can
Speaker 4: use for video gaming. I mean, that makes a lot
Speaker 4: of sense. And these are this is why crypto still
Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense to me as far as
Speaker 4: the different usage. And it's like even like casino. Imagine
Speaker 4: if you're in a casino, you know when you like
Speaker 4: most of the big whales and casino come from Japan.
Speaker 4: They come from overseas from Asia, so they go to Vegas,
Speaker 4: they got to, you know, change their money over stuff
Speaker 4: like that. But what if there was the currency just
Speaker 4: for casinos, so now when you're coming from Japan, you
Speaker 4: don't have to change your money over. You can just
Speaker 4: use the you know, whatever coin, the gambling coin whatever,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that just makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: So it's one of the things we said, if we
Speaker 2: compare it to the dot com Era.
Speaker 3: We just have to.
Speaker 2: Figure out who the Google, who the Yahoo, who the
Speaker 2: uh I mean, any of these big sites. Who's the
Speaker 2: next Amazon in this space?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: We don't want to have the excite dot com. And
Speaker 2: that's what we could have if we get the wrong coins.
Speaker 2: So again, read the white papers, right.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer of doing the research. So that's
Speaker 2: part of it. Due to the research. Like you said, when
Speaker 2: we invested, I started reading everything I could about this guy.
Speaker 2: If he was doing a lot of periscope, if he's
Speaker 2: on telegram, I was watching, so I wanted to know
Speaker 2: who this person was. And yeah, I think when he blew.
Speaker 2: I think he blew his nose into his hand and
Speaker 2: wiped it. And you were like, that's it. I'm doing this, dude.
Speaker 3: It gave me get in car.
Speaker 5: Oh come on, this is gonna be a hard one, Okay.
Speaker 5: So I have like this theory behind it, right. So
Speaker 5: when I was investing, I just noticed like these situations
Speaker 5: where it was just extremely different. I eventually read about
Speaker 5: it later, but at one point, when I was like
Speaker 5: hoping more people would get into it, I noticed like
Speaker 5: these square price fluctuations around like thirty three cents and
Speaker 5: then it felt like in two three days we were
Speaker 5: like eighty eight or ninety cents, and I come to
Speaker 5: find out someone actually, over a matter of days they
Speaker 5: invested about a half a billion dollars into ETA, and
Speaker 5: it's kind of like, man, I just hope everyone get
Speaker 5: in a four dollar And then there was that drop
Speaker 5: to like that eighty eight cent mark. Again it was
Speaker 5: it's kind of like it went there and like it
Speaker 5: just rejected immediately, like as soon as it touched eighty eight.
Speaker 5: So I almost feel like if you made it under
Speaker 5: that thirty cent area, you kind of cemented into like
Speaker 5: this bottom a bottom part of it. However, there is
Speaker 5: a fun picking up Ata right now, and they are
Speaker 5: they're actually selling their bitcoin for Ada and Polka Dot,
Speaker 5: and they're going to be buying Ata and Polka Dot
Speaker 5: up until mid March. So whatever this price is right now,
Speaker 5: they're probably keeping it right around a dollar. So I
Speaker 5: kind of don't think it's going to go under a
Speaker 5: dollar anytime soon.
Speaker 7: With me every day, are you using crypto like your
Speaker 7: long term hedge or like replacement for stocks because the
Speaker 7: returns are high features, but your passion for crypto is there,
Speaker 7: So tell me the strategy behind that.
Speaker 5: So I kind of do both. I do my my
Speaker 5: long term investing in stocks, and I do have my
Speaker 5: long term investing crypto. One of them is Ada, and
Speaker 5: then I have coins where I say that like once
Speaker 5: they get to like the coins that I'm just going
Speaker 5: to sell right like I have, I have my long
Speaker 5: term investment, and then I have something were once it
Speaker 5: reached reach a certain area, I'm just gonna relinquish whatever
Speaker 5: I'm holding. And with Ada, I'm just kind of right
Speaker 5: now is going into discovery mode and I'm not even
Speaker 5: sure if I should put a cap on it. Like
Speaker 5: a part of me is saying, I really don't think
Speaker 5: it's gonna go past five dollars on like this next
Speaker 5: side run. Maybe it'll go to maybe four and a
Speaker 5: half dollars, maybe come back and retrace to a dollar
Speaker 5: twenty possibly before another push up and the next push
Speaker 5: up maybe around ten to fifteen. But these are guestimations.
Speaker 5: This is what my assumpshus are that's gonna happen at
Speaker 5: some point. I feel like it's just not.
Speaker 3: We got some millionaires, and I greatly appreciate it. Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you for coming on. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm sure what, we'll see more of you in the future.
Speaker 4: But I'm glad we had the pleasure take a break
Speaker 4: from stocks for a minute and talk about crypto because
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