Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I'm Gammy and this is positively gam
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've heard, but I finally enjoyed
Speaker 1: TikTok and my handle on TikTok is at Gammy nrs.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about it and still trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out, so I wanted to learn from one
Speaker 1: of the experts. So let's get right into the episode.
Speaker 1: Drea okayk a k A Drea knows Best. It's a
Speaker 1: popular Nigerian American content creator with over five point four
Speaker 1: million followers on TikTok alone. She posts funny comedy videos
Speaker 1: and has worked with major brands such as Netflix, Google,
Speaker 1: and Chipotle. Today, I'm hoping she can share more about
Speaker 1: why everyone seems obsessed with TikTok, including me, also give
Speaker 1: advice to help us, especially me, level up our own TikTok's.
Speaker 1: You know I need help? Yeah, Hey, Dreane, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Gammy, how are you doing today? I
Speaker 1: am so good? So on absolutely listen. I'm desperate. I'm
Speaker 1: desperate for your health. I hear, I got you so.
Speaker 1: I saw your first um TikTok was back in I
Speaker 1: didn't even know about TikTok until last year, really like,
Speaker 1: how did you hear about it so early on and
Speaker 1: what did you think of it? Of course, my friend
Speaker 1: Alie Fits she was on the app before before TikTok
Speaker 1: was called musically so just the lip singing app, and
Speaker 1: she was telling me, Okay, this app just came out.
Speaker 1: You need to get on it to post a lot
Speaker 1: of videos. The engagement is crazy, a lot of people
Speaker 1: on it, and I'm like, I love posting short form
Speaker 1: videos like my mind just works, been like six seconds,
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds or less. So I was like, okay, let
Speaker 1: me post and I started posting on there and immediately,
Speaker 1: like video started going viral, and I'm like, I started
Speaker 1: doing a community. I'm like people to I'm funny, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: let me keep up. I'll stay. And I just started
Speaker 1: going to growing an audience, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: millions of followers started growing in and down. You know,
Speaker 1: there we are. Do you remember how many videos or
Speaker 1: challenges you had to do before one went viral. I
Speaker 1: think when I was posting, I wasn't really thinking about
Speaker 1: going viral. I was just thinking about having fun with it,
Speaker 1: because if I saw one video did well, I would
Speaker 1: go back and make a part two of it. So
Speaker 1: I did a lot of like comedy skits. Have this
Speaker 1: character called Mama D where she basically like if my
Speaker 1: Nigerian mom my first nation with Nigerian mom, where she
Speaker 1: just like the salts because African parents are very very
Speaker 1: rude and it's it's salts you like you look stupid,
Speaker 1: but I love you. So I'm just doing like one
Speaker 1: video like that with viral and I'll make another one
Speaker 1: part two, Part three, part four. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: exact amount of time, Like I remember one time when
Speaker 1: I was doing accent challenges, I'll read words with my
Speaker 1: Nigerian accents because I can switch back to my Nageran
Speaker 1: accents and then I'll find someone from like put a
Speaker 1: recom and tell them to read the same words and
Speaker 1: we'll show how different but also similar are accents are.
Speaker 1: And those were super global globally viral. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that, you know, the first
Speaker 1: TikTok that I did was the Chosen Challenge. Listen, I
Speaker 1: cannot tell you how long, the hours, the hours, and
Speaker 1: it took me to get that thing done. I was
Speaker 1: doing it by myself. I had to like set up
Speaker 1: the computer, look at the computer while I had the
Speaker 1: camera set up trying to cap it was I was
Speaker 1: like I didn't know what I was doing, and it
Speaker 1: just took forever. I mean people people liked it, but
Speaker 1: it just it just took so long to do it.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it's just hard memorizing the dances, like setting
Speaker 1: up the tripod, and then it takes me just hours.
Speaker 1: Do you have to edit the video like all of that.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot, it really is. So I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that you can help us out with that day. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's let's go back a little bit,
Speaker 1: because you got your bachelor's degree in engineering, So what
Speaker 1: made you start creating content for social media in the
Speaker 1: first place. My mind is like has ideas and I
Speaker 1: love bringing that vision to life. So I got my
Speaker 1: bachelor's degree, that I moved to California and I was
Speaker 1: working as the engineer full time. I started creating videos
Speaker 1: just as a stress reliever because you know, engineering it's
Speaker 1: not easy. So I just needed a way to just escape,
Speaker 1: get out of the normal. And that's how I just
Speaker 1: got started and to really know that I could stick
Speaker 1: to it full time. First of all, I always believe
Speaker 1: that people can do things whatever so on else to do,
Speaker 1: and you can do it if you put your mind
Speaker 1: to right. So I've seen people in my space back then,
Speaker 1: this was in twenty seventeen sixteen. I saw people with
Speaker 1: the social media space taken off, you know, being able
Speaker 1: to host TV shows, getting roles and movies, making so
Speaker 1: much money, buying these houses. And I'm like, they don't
Speaker 1: have two heads. They're not betting on me. If I
Speaker 1: put my mind to it, I got on my side,
Speaker 1: I can do it, you know. So I realized that
Speaker 1: there's definitely potential for me to do this full time.
Speaker 1: And when I went in I went to grad school
Speaker 1: at USC and I studied entrepreneurship because my I forgot
Speaker 1: parents told me, almost get my starts degree, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to get a master's degree in something that like
Speaker 1: I can use to elevate my social media career. And
Speaker 1: that's what I an entrepreneurship classes. That started realizing that
Speaker 1: when you're pitching yourself, it's kind of the same as
Speaker 1: social media. My platform is my business, right, and I
Speaker 1: gotta treat it like it is my business. And when
Speaker 1: I want to work with these brands like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: I work with Netflix, seven eleven, Google, The list goes on.
Speaker 1: I reach out to these brands and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is dread knows best as a brand. This is what
Speaker 1: you can benefit from. Here's my pitch. Work with me.
Speaker 1: So that's when I started like okay full time and
Speaker 1: then took the ricks and now that we're here, So
Speaker 1: what's your take on senior influencers coming into the space
Speaker 1: see your influence? You know, first of all gave me
Speaker 1: I love that word. I love a senior influencers. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's do you all your hashtags? See your influence?
Speaker 1: I think there's space for everyone, I really, especially even
Speaker 1: directly on TikTok. That's even the space where senior influencers
Speaker 1: should start out because you just need to find something
Speaker 1: you're interested in and post about it. Like if you
Speaker 1: think about on TikTok, there's so many different demographics. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes you put a lot of pressure on ourselves
Speaker 1: thinking we need to make sure we do the trending
Speaker 1: dances or do the trending challenges. And if you depending
Speaker 1: on what you like, your explore page, which is called
Speaker 1: the for you paid on TikTok, will show you what
Speaker 1: you like. So for me, I love hearing stories about
Speaker 1: relationships like how people met, how someone met their husband's,
Speaker 1: how some one met their wife. And my for you
Speaker 1: page is just videos of people telling stories. So I
Speaker 1: think senior influencers has come on and share your story
Speaker 1: about you know, what you've experienced in life, what your
Speaker 1: hobbies are, and post about it. Because when we start
Speaker 1: overthinking how to post, that's when it becomes a challenge
Speaker 1: for this space for everyone. So how would you say
Speaker 1: that for someone like me? I do have people now
Speaker 1: that can help me with that, but if I didn't
Speaker 1: have that, one of the suggestions that you would make
Speaker 1: on how to learn how to do a TikTok you've
Speaker 1: already given us ideas about what we should try posting about,
Speaker 1: but just the process. What what is that like? How
Speaker 1: do you how do you do it? What? What what
Speaker 1: is the must do when creating content for TikTok Okay?
Speaker 1: First of all, I need to buy five thousand dollar phone.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna joke. No, I think it's really simple.
Speaker 1: So the first thing you should do is just clear
Speaker 1: around with the app, right learn as you play, So
Speaker 1: open your app and nearly just record yourself. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing for breakfast. This is a
Speaker 1: question that I have because I've never done it that way,
Speaker 1: because I'm afraid that I'll it'll get posted. It'll get posted.
Speaker 1: Something that i've I've done will get posted and I
Speaker 1: didn't really want to post it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's no side by It's like a side by
Speaker 1: side picture or something. If I record that, how do
Speaker 1: you can you record it and save it and go
Speaker 1: back and look at it. Or I'm just so afraid
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna do something and it's gonna go get
Speaker 1: posted live and I'll be like, oh no. You know
Speaker 1: what's funny, Those videos that you don't plan too much
Speaker 1: are the videos that does better than most. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you from my experience because when I shoot my comedy sketches,
Speaker 1: I live in Los Angeles, so I have access to
Speaker 1: like studio sets from talking to my friends. We rent
Speaker 1: out like an airplane set. We shoot an airplane, We
Speaker 1: shoot at like hospitals. Becauld we love, you know, we
Speaker 1: love to go above beyond. I'm a creative color. You know,
Speaker 1: we gotta stand out. Um. But I'm talking those videos
Speaker 1: flopped it's the one where I'm saying, y'all, I just
Speaker 1: got a new wig. What's you think about these banks?
Speaker 1: Is the commons roll in because people The biggest thing
Speaker 1: on TikTok is it's just it's a community, right, And
Speaker 1: that's why I think age is not really a factor
Speaker 1: because there's so many different niches. There's people posting about
Speaker 1: like having chickens as pets, and people posting about cooking
Speaker 1: recipes poople. I see you, Gammy. You're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of fashion on TikTok to there. So when you have
Speaker 1: that community, it's ageless, right, because it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you're giving me fashion tips and you're sixty something or
Speaker 1: if you give me fashion tips and you're twenty regardless,
Speaker 1: it's about the message you're trying to give people. So
Speaker 1: I think once you play around with the app a
Speaker 1: little bit, you slowly start learning how to edit, how
Speaker 1: to use the timer, how to trim your video down
Speaker 1: to be shorter. The trimming of a video is like,
Speaker 1: I just like, I'm always like trimming the wrong part.
Speaker 1: It's just really challenging. It really is. I feel you
Speaker 1: and you know something. There's there's also TikTok accounts who
Speaker 1: are strictly about teaching you how to use TikTok. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of tutorial accounts right who teach you how
Speaker 1: to like here's this trend, Here's how to do it,
Speaker 1: trim this like they teach you step by step. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like TikTok so social media in general,
Speaker 1: there's so many different categories. So if you wanted exactly
Speaker 1: like you can just follow an account that gives you
Speaker 1: tips for beginners, and then you'll be thriving out here. Well,
Speaker 1: I have to say though, it can be very time consuming, Drea,
Speaker 1: very time consuming to do all that. So you have
Speaker 1: to really be in a space where I ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do today, so I was on TikTok and
Speaker 1: figure it all out. And I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how many people have that kind of time or
Speaker 1: because it really can turn into almost like an obsession.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes my husband is like, get off the phone,
Speaker 1: put the phone down, I said, but I'm trying to
Speaker 1: fake it TikTok out, I'm trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: You get into a rabbit hole watching a bunch of content.
Speaker 1: I get hooked because the thing about TikTok. Before you page,
Speaker 1: it feeds you videos that you want to see, like
Speaker 1: it knows like I told you, Like, I get a
Speaker 1: lot of relationship gold videos. So whenever I get on there,
Speaker 1: I'm just like growing, like, oh my gosh, I can't
Speaker 1: stop watching. But yeah, So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: can you give me like three things that you think
Speaker 1: people should know when they're getting started on TikTok. The
Speaker 1: first step one is when you get the account, just okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, overall, don't overcomplicated, because I feel like
Speaker 1: we all as humans, we tend to overcomplicate things when
Speaker 1: things are actually simpler than it actually is. Going with
Speaker 1: attention of having fun. So when you get the app,
Speaker 1: watch a bunch of videos. Watch a bunch of videos
Speaker 1: of people within your niche. For example, if you want
Speaker 1: to do a lot of fitness videos, look at all
Speaker 1: these fitness creators to see, Okay, how are they posting,
Speaker 1: what is their strategy, what is their type of content
Speaker 1: you posting? And you know, start saving a couple of
Speaker 1: the videos to get yourself inspiration. The thing about TikTok
Speaker 1: is a lot of people are doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, when a trend have like you study the
Speaker 1: chosen I saw recently you did the you posted the
Speaker 1: videos today when you like you dropped the clothes on
Speaker 1: the floor. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like,
Speaker 1: but you did yours with a twist, and I love
Speaker 1: that yours was different. You know, So you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of trends. Well, it did. It's not something
Speaker 1: that I created, though somebody else did it before me,
Speaker 1: but you've added your own gammy flavor to it. I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that you know I'm giving
Speaker 1: credit where credit is due because that's not something that
Speaker 1: that I created. I feel you, I feel you. I
Speaker 1: respect you for that too, because that's the problem that's
Speaker 1: going on into creative space, like people come up with
Speaker 1: trends but don't get credit for that trend. I want
Speaker 1: to go back to your first statement to about people
Speaker 1: make it more complicated than it really needs to be.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm kind of falling in that space too,
Speaker 1: because I see people are doing something really really cool
Speaker 1: things and I want to be able to do that,
Speaker 1: but I can't. I don't know how to do all
Speaker 1: of that. So I think that you're right, I probably
Speaker 1: need to step back and just go simple. I think
Speaker 1: so too, and gave me I think for you like
Speaker 1: and this is the consultant in me. One of the
Speaker 1: consult you on your page. Just your lifestyle in general.
Speaker 1: You're over sixty and you're you're the way you live
Speaker 1: your life is so inspiring because you're fit, you're having fun,
Speaker 1: you love to dance, You're very free with yourself, and
Speaker 1: people want to see that. And I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is when you know who your target audience is,
Speaker 1: who's watching your content, you can more easily create content
Speaker 1: for them at the same time loving your content. For me,
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to see what are some
Speaker 1: lessons you've learned, you know in your sixties over sixty years?
Speaker 1: What are some you know? What is in your wardrobe? Like?
Speaker 1: What do you? What do you? How do you get
Speaker 1: inspiration for your clothes? I love you say you notes
Speaker 1: you know I am Videos like who said people over
Speaker 1: sixty can't do it? A trend that for me will
Speaker 1: make me stop to watching video, especially if you put
Speaker 1: that text on the screen like who said ladies over
Speaker 1: sixty can't wear these outfits? You don't have to say that,
Speaker 1: you can just put that text on the steam as
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling, I'll stop me. Hold up, she's over sixty.
Speaker 1: She looks this good? You know what? And I would
Speaker 1: like start watching more of your video. So it's all
Speaker 1: about hooking them in those first three seconds. That's a
Speaker 1: big part about TikTok, Instagram reals, any short form video,
Speaker 1: hooking them in those first three seconds, Like, um, it's
Speaker 1: so important because before you don't want you want them
Speaker 1: to stop scrolling and watch your videos. So I see
Speaker 1: you just being a lifestyle top of creator. Just showing
Speaker 1: life over sixty can be fun and that that literally
Speaker 1: is just like showing them showing us your life. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be You don't have to I
Speaker 1: mean every now and then get creative. You have a team,
Speaker 1: You're lucky, your blessed, you have a team that can
Speaker 1: help you out videos. But don't we complicated? I think
Speaker 1: I would more. I'll be more inclined to see you
Speaker 1: posted video. Y'all. Here's me about to do this crunches.
Speaker 1: I bet you under sixty or under the pointies can
Speaker 1: do this. And then you're doing five punches like and
Speaker 1: then you're having fun with it too. You're challenging your audience.
Speaker 1: You're bringing us into your life and overall is to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is good if advice, that is good advice. So
Speaker 1: the first point was to be looking at the videos
Speaker 1: that are already on the app. So you you're finding
Speaker 1: things that you like, right, yes, correct, Yeah, look at
Speaker 1: the videos on the app, find things that you like
Speaker 1: and you would like to recreate, right, Because I think
Speaker 1: on TikTok, a lot of the videos are either trans
Speaker 1: or challenges and there's nothing really new. People have seen
Speaker 1: it before. But what makes it new is when you
Speaker 1: add your own flavor to it. You get inspiration from
Speaker 1: other videos that are posted. And then I think the
Speaker 1: second tip will be joining on the trends, joining on
Speaker 1: the challenges, but add your own twist to it, making
Speaker 1: something different and make it apply to your niche. For example,
Speaker 1: if there's a challenge that has to do with I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever, maybe I try to give a challenge
Speaker 1: right now, maybe like the drop challenger recently just came
Speaker 1: out right, the drop challenge where people with the Beyonce
Speaker 1: song you dropped down lower every time to be dropped,
Speaker 1: and I can't go that low. I thought about doing that.
Speaker 1: I can't go that loud. I can't do it. I
Speaker 1: can't do it, and that would be a challenge for you.
Speaker 1: That would be how you can do the drop challenge differently?
Speaker 1: Right because you're over you want to appeal to the
Speaker 1: over sixties squality, be like, um, let's see over sixty
Speaker 1: year old can do the challenge, you know, and that
Speaker 1: would want people tune in because so let's see if
Speaker 1: she's gonna actually do it and gave me I know
Speaker 1: you for straate you to do it. You can do
Speaker 1: you might. I don't know how many times you can
Speaker 1: go down and go back up because my knees are
Speaker 1: I'm twenty something, but my knees are already cracking, locking
Speaker 1: my knees, but I can go. I can get damn there,
Speaker 1: I ain't get back up? Yeah, okay, what's the third one?
Speaker 1: All right? Um? But sorry, I just want to make
Speaker 1: one more point about the trends, because that's that's something
Speaker 1: like when you're doing the trends, make it apply to
Speaker 1: what your community or niche is. So that's also as
Speaker 1: like you can add so I've seen people do the
Speaker 1: trend but also add words on the screen like three
Speaker 1: tips for this, so as they're doing the video, they
Speaker 1: have words on the screen that giving them tips on
Speaker 1: certain things. Like if I was a dentist, I'd be
Speaker 1: like few ways to keep your teeth wipe. But as
Speaker 1: I'm still dropping, those tips are popping over. So people
Speaker 1: are reading, you know, they're reading and watching, They're gonna
Speaker 1: save it, share it because they need those tips. Um,
Speaker 1: And that's my third. My third tip will be look,
Speaker 1: try to have content. I think it's for ease education.
Speaker 1: Either your content should be educational, right because people love
Speaker 1: things with that adds value to them. Right. Educational content
Speaker 1: is huge right now on Instagram, is huge on TikTok
Speaker 1: educational or maybe is it? Is your video going to
Speaker 1: be entertaining? Right? So like for me, my video is
Speaker 1: a lot of comedy or maybe me telling you know,
Speaker 1: experiences and it's entertaining. Is your video gonna be engaging
Speaker 1: slash relatable? Can I relate to your video and not
Speaker 1: I like everyone? You're not trying to pil to everyone.
Speaker 1: You're trying to pel to your community, right, who you're commune,
Speaker 1: who you're trying to target. Is your video gonna be
Speaker 1: relatable to them? And what type of emotion you're gonna
Speaker 1: give them? Like for me, I see you giving people,
Speaker 1: you know, emotion of like, oh, I want to be aspiration,
Speaker 1: like I want to be like this and when I
Speaker 1: get older kind of thing, you know. So when you
Speaker 1: think about those things, and I do have one more
Speaker 1: tip too, because there's a lot of tips. As you
Speaker 1: say three, I'm gonna get four. Make sure you have
Speaker 1: some type of call to action on your video. Calls
Speaker 1: to action means, you know, either in the middle of
Speaker 1: your video and at the end of your video telling
Speaker 1: them like and follow for more tips, either you're verbally
Speaker 1: saying it or putting that on the screen. Because people
Speaker 1: we forget, like we forget we just watch this grows,
Speaker 1: watch this grow culture. We forget to double tap, we
Speaker 1: forget to follow. So telling them to follow for more tips,
Speaker 1: or follow for more inspiration on food recipes, follow for
Speaker 1: this call to add on. A call to action would
Speaker 1: be in the beginning of your video. Like I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: those hooks is like, um, you've been TikTok does not
Speaker 1: want you to know this. That's like an example, or
Speaker 1: like the bank does not want you to know this,
Speaker 1: And then you give your tips about finance. You know, um,
Speaker 1: anything that's gonna make them stop. You've been doing crunch
Speaker 1: is the wrong way. I'm gonna stop people like what
Speaker 1: should have no crunches the wrong way. Let me watch
Speaker 1: this video what you're talking about? You know? Um story
Speaker 1: three ways to save to save your relationship, I'll stopping
Speaker 1: watch that, you know. Like, so a call to action
Speaker 1: that's gonna make a hook and call to action gonna
Speaker 1: make people stop to watch your video is so important.
Speaker 1: And another bonus tip is the reply to video feature. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a big one for engaging your community. So let's
Speaker 1: just say someone comments something under your video. You instead
Speaker 1: of replying back to that comment with a text, you
Speaker 1: can imply back with a whole video. This is a
Speaker 1: really big tip for TikTok because I'll give you an
Speaker 1: example for me. A year ago, when I went to Nigeria,
Speaker 1: I was lazy, I was out of content ideas and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm on vacation. What do y'all want to
Speaker 1: see what I'm in Nigeria? I posted that video. I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you guys want to see why
Speaker 1: I'm in Nigeria? And lots of comments rolled in. I
Speaker 1: want to see the houses y'all got in Nigeria, So
Speaker 1: I said, I want to see a mansion tour. I
Speaker 1: reply back with a video and I showed them a
Speaker 1: video of me touring different showing them how Africa looks
Speaker 1: like different mansions. Another comments said, I want to see
Speaker 1: the food y'all got in Nigeria. I reply back with
Speaker 1: video with food. So my audience. This is doing two things.
Speaker 1: Want to show my audience that I see y'all. Y'all
Speaker 1: my friends, you're my family. I'm gonna I'm gonna reply
Speaker 1: back with you all. I'm gonna gavee it to you
Speaker 1: and to make you do less work. It's content ideas.
Speaker 1: So wow that you know what, this has been really
Speaker 1: really helpful, Drea. Now, right now, compared to your five
Speaker 1: point one or what is it five point four? How
Speaker 1: many viewers do you have? Five point four million viewers?
Speaker 1: I think I have thirty three thousand. But I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna beat myself up because I'm just starting out. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to take your information and see if i
Speaker 1: can get my numbers up a little bit with my
Speaker 1: tick tock. Yeah, I think I think you definitely can.
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing to me, I don't look at numbers.
Speaker 1: I look at your community. So if you can make
Speaker 1: that relationship with your TikTok community like this, like you
Speaker 1: actually the people feel like they can they're feeling seen
Speaker 1: by you. You can post and every time thirty thousand
Speaker 1: people are gonna like that post because you're engaged in
Speaker 1: with your community. Feel make them feel seen. That's what
Speaker 1: it's all about. I think with the content creating space
Speaker 1: and social media world gone on the days when people
Speaker 1: are looking at you have so many followers, like you
Speaker 1: can easily say five million followers. I can say that,
Speaker 1: but it's like, are those five million people actually know
Speaker 1: you are, that they care about you, or they engage
Speaker 1: in your daily life? Like what are you doing with
Speaker 1: those probably followers? If you if you drop a business,
Speaker 1: will five whnion people buy that products? Maybe yes, because
Speaker 1: I'm actually engaged with my followers. So when you post
Speaker 1: and it doesn't do well, don't delete it. Just keep
Speaker 1: it up there because again sometimes on TikTok, five months later,
Speaker 1: one of your videos can end up on the explot page,
Speaker 1: which is called for you page on TikTok, and then
Speaker 1: it starts racking up likes and followers and then boomed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just have fun with their gammy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's my biggest takeaway. I think
Speaker 1: that's my biggest say or one of my biggest takeaways raight,
Speaker 1: is that I need to be worrying about I just
Speaker 1: need to be having fun with it. Yeah. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. This was a fun conversation. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Before you go, though, it's time for our segment. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: you like to know where I have some rapid fire questions?
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask you, all right, what book are
Speaker 1: you currently reading? I'm currently reading two books, Get Right
Speaker 1: with Money, by the Budget is Stuff yep. So it's
Speaker 1: about financial literacy. Yea, I have that. I have that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's so good, so good, because I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me, Like now I'm starting to
Speaker 1: make more money, I need to know how to make
Speaker 1: my money work for me. Absolutely. I just got that
Speaker 1: one myself. So I totally get it. I totally get it.
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad to hear that you are taking
Speaker 1: your finances serious, Lee, so that your money will work
Speaker 1: for you. Financial literacy is so important. What is one
Speaker 1: positive thing that you want to get off your chest.
Speaker 1: I feel like, man, don't think came to my mind
Speaker 1: is like God is good in my life. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a walking testimonial of like, if you really
Speaker 1: put your mind or hard work into things, it's really possible,
Speaker 1: like to achieve it. So like, I did not know
Speaker 1: that I would get so much success off this app
Speaker 1: because I've been I started off on Vine and that
Speaker 1: was another app that was like a thing, and I
Speaker 1: lost over seven hundred followers. Had to start from scratch,
Speaker 1: you know, taking a leap of faith, quitting my engineering
Speaker 1: job to do social media full time, and all this
Speaker 1: could have flopped. You know, all this could have flopped.
Speaker 1: I'm not where I am supposed to be, but my
Speaker 1: I'm on my way there, and I'm really just like
Speaker 1: every day I wake up a gratitude, like God, You're good.
Speaker 1: So I feel you. I feel you. So do you
Speaker 1: feel like that's that you're the model that you live
Speaker 1: by as well, that God is good? Yeah? It is.
Speaker 1: But there I have another one I go by. If
Speaker 1: not this, then something better, And I love that a lot,
Speaker 1: especially when certain opportunities come my way and maybe I
Speaker 1: get pitched for a brand deal and I don't get picked.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like okay, Drea, if not this, then
Speaker 1: something better, and I apply that to my my whole life,
Speaker 1: my relationship and rest I talk it's a guy and
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, It's like, if not, this definitely
Speaker 1: something better. I love that. I actually love that. I
Speaker 1: actually love that. This was such a fun conversation. Well,
Speaker 1: tell people where we can find you on social media. Um,
Speaker 1: you can find your social media. Drea underscore and knows
Speaker 1: best on Instagram and Drea knows best elsewhere, and then
Speaker 1: if you want, you can just go straight to my website.
Speaker 1: I have my TikTok course on there's level up with
Speaker 1: TikTok if you're trying to, you know, level up literally
Speaker 1: on TikTok as so many people are making a lot
Speaker 1: of money growing their businesses, their brands on TikTok and
Speaker 1: have a whole course from A to Z on how
Speaker 1: to succeed. So that's level up that Drea knows best
Speaker 1: dot com. That's awesome. I'm gonna take a look at that.
Speaker 1: I've definitely learned a lot. So thank you so much
Speaker 1: Drea for stopping by positively gam and giving us all
Speaker 1: the TikTok info. At one point we'll have to try
Speaker 1: to create a TikTok together. Oh yeah, I would love
Speaker 1: that and it will be phenomenal. It'll break the out
Speaker 1: and it will be so good. All right, we'll stay
Speaker 1: in contact. Thank you so much, Dreya, for sure you
Speaker 1: have a great one too. Now onto Gams Corner, where
Speaker 1: I answer fan questions that were submitted. Okay, what is
Speaker 1: your favorite thing about Baltimore? The seafood? Quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: was born and raised in Baltimore, but that is one
Speaker 1: thing that you know I missed tremendously living out here
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Now be Hardshaw Crabs. I cannot get
Speaker 1: Hardshaw Crabs here. And every time I go back to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: whether it's the best season for them or not, I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to get somebody to take me. Let's go
Speaker 1: get some crabs. What movie can you watch over and
Speaker 1: over again? Oh? God, so many. The list goes on
Speaker 1: and on, because that's what I tend to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I watch any movie starring guests who Jada Pinkett Smith.
Speaker 1: My favorite one is Low Down, Dirty Shame, Above and
Speaker 1: beyond that. As my husband, if you ask my husband,
Speaker 1: he'll say Love Jones because it's just the truth. I
Speaker 1: probably can mouth the words to every single character in
Speaker 1: the movie. I just know the movie backwards and forwards.
Speaker 1: It's like one of my favorite love Jones also like
Speaker 1: The Godfather particularly, well, actually all three of them, but
Speaker 1: Godfather Part one is my favorite. I get kind of
Speaker 1: obsessive with movies. I'm a movie fan and a movie lover,
Speaker 1: so an he take your pick. Okay, So that's it
Speaker 1: for today. You can submit your questions to positively gam
Speaker 1: at red table talk dot com for a chance to
Speaker 1: hear me answer them on a future episode, and that
Speaker 1: wraps it up for us on positivity gam. You can
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