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Speaker 1: and Tye welcome back to the Soburbo boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over

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Speaker 1: there in beautiful NYC. The one, the only, the anti

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I've made it clear that ninety eight percent of the

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Speaker 1: Listen, you take your anti playoff propaganda. Listen, and you

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Speaker 1: leave it at the door when you log into Twitter

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Speaker 1: dot com. You hear me, No, absolutely not, Ty, did

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Speaker 1: you see the hashtag engagement? I will change that password. Dog,

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Speaker 2: Away from thy Heart's Teeth sixty nine is we're going

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Speaker 1: Stop beautiful password. Stop it. This is an open internet

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Speaker 2: I stand by everything I've said. It is a beautiful

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Speaker 2: day in New York. By the way, had a nice

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Speaker 2: day outside with the wee little solid baby. I had

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Speaker 2: I've seen the world from a different set of eyes,

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Speaker 2: and I'm ready to put that onto my Week nine picks.

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Speaker 1: Week nine, It is week nine. I did catch a

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Speaker 1: niner in there. Hello, welcome all, Thank you for downloading

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Speaker 1: So in addition to our full on committing to the

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Speaker 1: we also have this window of opportunity. Window of opportunity

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Speaker 1: week nine. Damn the week now. As Dan said, there

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Speaker 1: are some interesting games on the slate here. All you

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Speaker 1: What happened? That has almost nothing to do with football.

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Speaker 2: So I'm calling this matchup now the Carpet Killer Classic.

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Speaker 2: Carpet Killer. Yeah, the carpet Killer Classic. Because we have

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Speaker 1: How many people would tune out if we named every game?

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Speaker 2: We might increase our listenership. At this point, people just

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Speaker 1: This is also a matchup of the top two defenses

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really want to take Wisconsin to cover because

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Speaker 2: Okay, Why does your body? Why are you feeling the

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Speaker 1: I don't know explain that. Why are we doing this

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Speaker 1: slash pick them and pick this, yeah, along with nine others. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: three point thirty CBS. It's the Auburn Tigers, the LSU Tigers,

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Speaker 1: Happily we disagree once more again. Three thirty ABC, Penn

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you can't even say like shootout anymore. You

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Speaker 2: can't say the like the war on I four, no war.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they're getting to seventeen points. How

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Speaker 1: Can they get to twenty four points here? Dan?

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Speaker 2: I'm sticking by the Dan Rubinstein theory. That probably only

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Speaker 2: State won an East Lansing tie. It's been a long time, yeah,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, it's been a decade.

431
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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: November twenty first, two thousand and nine. The number one

433
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Speaker 2: movie in America the Twilight Saga New Moon whoa number two?

434
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Speaker 2: The blind Side number three twenty twelve, which is very confusing.

435
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Speaker 2: Remember that movie Roland Emerick? That was John Cusack.

436
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the number one song in America tie hit

437
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Speaker 1: your soundboard. Yeah, that's right. He has brought it full

438
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Speaker 1: circle via the Land Grant Trophy. Wow, now you tell

439
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: me it's not Owl City Saturday. Talk about waiting for

440
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Speaker 1: the payoff? Yeah he did. We're twenty minutes into this show.

441
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Speaker 2: So how can I not go? And by the way,

442
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Speaker 2: kJ Hammler is from Michigan, right, Yes, he's from Michigan.

443
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Speaker 2: Are you an Orchard Lake guy or a Pine Lake guy?

444
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Speaker 1: I'm more of a Pine Lake guy. Personally, he's Orchard

445
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Speaker 1: Lake and that doesn't spell good things for Penn State.

446
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I do think. For as crazy

447
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Speaker 1: as you are and your theories tend to be, sometimes

448
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Speaker 1: I do think there may be something to your good

449
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Speaker 1: defense at home theory, especially when you tack on as

450
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Speaker 1: home dogs. Yeah, as home dogs, all the stuff that

451
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Speaker 1: you mentioned. I'm not going to go back through it all,

452
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Speaker 1: but the potential for twelve Orchard Lake. Right now, I'm

453
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Speaker 1: talking about Penn State, the potential for a letdown, and

454
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Speaker 1: like I said earlier, the confidence that I know Michigan

455
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Speaker 1: State has from winning the last two games in this series.

456
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Speaker 1: Still a young Penn State team, how they do in

457
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Speaker 1: this spot is going to inform how we judge them

458
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Speaker 1: the rest of the way, mainly in a huge spot

459
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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks at Ohio State. I think

460
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm making Michigan State my home

461
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Speaker 1: doog home dog of the week. I do not think

462
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Speaker 1: they win this game, but I do think six is

463
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Speaker 1: too many. I'm gonna call it twenty one to sixteen

464
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Speaker 1: Penn State in just a slog of a defensive game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the over under is I didn't

466
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Speaker 1: see it. I would look twice at it if that's

467
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Speaker 1: something that interests you, and I would be inclined to

468
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Speaker 1: go on the on the shorter end of that stick

469
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Speaker 1: just because feels like a game or both teams tighten up.

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Speaker 1: Michigan State that is sort of their default offensive position.

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Speaker 1: Penn State a week after Michigan. I don't know what

472
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Speaker 1: to expect here.

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Speaker 2: Penn State absolutely shellacked Michigan State. By the way, in

474
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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, I'd be an Andrew Corlis oh

475
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Speaker 2: boy pass from Darryl Clark, open up the game, open

476
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Speaker 2: up the scoring.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Clark was a frequent answer of our Twitter proposal

478
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. That was a was a

479
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Speaker 1: question Kirk Cousins game on the other side, all right,

480
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Speaker 1: seven point thirty ABC, Notre Dame at Michigan. Let's stay

481
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Speaker 1: in the Great state of Michigan. M The Wolverines opened

482
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Speaker 1: as a four point favorite. Yeah over Notre Dame. This

483
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Speaker 1: is it did, Actually, okay, it did. It's down to

484
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Speaker 1: one now, basically a pick them in favor of Michigan.

485
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Speaker 1: So look, you you know my deal with picking Notre

486
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Speaker 1: Dame games, and that I got a weird superstition and

487
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Speaker 1: all that. Let me just say this from a really

488
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Speaker 1: high level, and I can't pick the game because I'm

489
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Speaker 1: calling it. It is tough for me to square up

490
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Speaker 1: a really mistake prone Michigan team with a Notre Dame

491
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: team that's been very careful with the football. Sure does

492
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Speaker 1: that make sense? It does absolutely make sense. Are you

493
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Speaker 1: reading the subtext there?

494
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Speaker 2: Your confident lock of the week Notre Dame For Michigan

495
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Speaker 2: to win, Dan, Yeah, I think they need to run

496
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Speaker 2: Zach Schaubinet mm hmm.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can run on this Notre Dame team.

498
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: And the problem is Michigan's not a great running team.

499
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: And no, they ran a little bit better. They ran

500
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Speaker 1: a little bit better they did against Penn State last week.

501
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: They have a good back in Sharponey. I think he's good.

502
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be good for a couple

503
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Speaker 1: of years. I'll be watching to see how they use him.

504
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if Notre Dame can open up

505
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Speaker 1: the playbook at all and really go at Michigan early.

506
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: That's been something we've kicked around here on the show.

507
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes they have that conservative streak like the one we

508
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: saw on the road against Georgia. That that doesn't leave

509
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Speaker 1: many a Notre Dame fan very impressed. Right, So again,

510
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Speaker 1: I hope people are smart enough to hear what I'm

511
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Speaker 1: saying without saying say it, Ty, I will go ahead

512
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Speaker 1: and pick Michigan twenty four to twenty one. Okay.

513
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Speaker 2: I'm going to lean into this line as well, because

514
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Speaker 2: it also sort of confounded me when I saw it

515
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Speaker 2: at first. I think Michigan wins this one as well. Ty,

516
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Speaker 2: I want to make myself believe that Planet Earth turns

517
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Speaker 2: slowly or the Michigan Wolf. I'm sorry, I'm really committing

518
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Speaker 2: to it. No, I can't do it half, ay, Tie,

519
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: Michigan has to win one of these games. They just

520
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: have to. It's a good situation. Even Notre Dame is

521
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: coming off of bye right, yes, and Notre Dame has

522
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Speaker 2: not been on the road in a month reading that

523
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Speaker 2: correctly since the Georgia game correct so not exactly road tested,

524
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: and I it just Michigan has to do everything one week.

525
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: They just have to put it all together. They have

526
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Speaker 2: to stop dropping the ball. The defense still looks to

527
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: be very good, even if it isn't exactly on the

528
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Speaker 2: level of previous Michigan defenses. So it's it's a tough

529
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Speaker 2: place to play, it's you know, they're almost a home dog.

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Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going a mazing blue hair.

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Speaker 1: We sort of agree on this one, then correct, all right?

532
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Speaker 1: Ten thirty ESPN Wazoo against your defending red box Ball champions.

533
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: The organ Ducks opened up at fifteen and a half

534
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Speaker 1: in favor of the Ducks, down to fourteen in favor

535
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Speaker 1: of the Ducks. Let me ask you, as the Oregon officionado,

536
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: is is there any letdown potential here? A week after

537
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Speaker 1: that big Washington wins sort of a come from behind

538
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: element to it. Sure, it would definitely come from behind.

539
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: They were not fourteen in the second half where they

540
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: played in the second half. Is there any letdown potential here? Sure?

541
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's letown potential. I think I'm gonna take the points.

542
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: I think Oregon wins this game. I think they're about

543
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Speaker 2: seven to ten points better than Washington State because of

544
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Speaker 2: a defense that the Koug's put out there that is

545
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: at times pretty abominable, and we saw Tracy clays Is

546
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: pushed out, resigns. Whatever happens in Pullman so an interim

547
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and if Oregon were smart, I was gonna say,

548
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: just run the ball straight at Washington State. Well, you

549
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: can do whatever you kind of want against Washington State.

550
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: The problem is for Oregon, a team with aspirations of

551
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: big New Year's daysh Gamesazu probably is the best offense

552
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve. Anthony Gordon a little sloppy with

553
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: the ball. Max Borgie is a terrific all purpose player.

554
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: I like des Patman. I just it was ASoP Winston's

555
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: the other really good receiver. It's terrifying. Organ's lost four

556
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: straight to Wazoo. Now it's but it's in Eugene. I yeah,

557
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Oregon here. I'm gonna take those

558
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: points though, in a bit of a shootout. I have it,

559
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: you know, something like forty to thirty.

560
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: One, forty to thirty one, huh yeah, yeah, high scoring.

561
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: I think I agree Dan.

562
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: The Wazu man. Wazoo's played a really good Pac twelve team.

563
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: They've played a couple of very bad ones, and they've

564
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: played a medium one, and they've all other than Colorado

565
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: really just taken it to the koogs. My thing about

566
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: forty My thing.

567
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: With Wazoo every year, every year I either totally peg

568
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: them the full year through or I'm always way off right,

569
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: and this year feels like one of those years where

570
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm really off I just don't know what to expect.

571
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Last year just felt better about picking week in and

572
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: week out with the Kougs. But I'm I don't know.

573
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I think they're good enough on offense to keep this

574
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: one close, and I could definitely see some let down

575
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: potential here after Washington went on the road last week

576
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: for Oregon.

577
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, they Oregon got lucky with I think Diamodor

578
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: lenore is going to play in this game. He's okay, Washington,

579
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: it appears that his shoulder is fine. Okay, good, I'll

580
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: go with you. I'll take the points here. But I

581
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: do think I do think Oregon wins the game. Okay,

582
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: bit of a shootout, Dan, let's talk about Roeback. Huh,

583
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh. Yes, So can I tell a quick story.

584
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Speaker 1: I'm here, yeah, As you know, I'm the proud owner

585
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Speaker 1: of a new puppy, as solid puppy as it were,

586
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Speaker 1: and we wake up very early in the mornings and

587
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Speaker 1: sometimes to take her out at five AM or so.

588
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I let her out of her create and out of

589
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: her designated area of the house without properly configuring the

590
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: gates elsewhere, so it gives her a little bit more

591
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: free reign than I would like normally. Okay, our puppy

592
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Speaker 1: made a mad dash for the box of rowback gear

593
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: that is still on one of my end tables, and

594
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: I dove pretty much full extension to stop her from

595
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: getting into the box and tearing it. Oh precious cargo

596
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: thread from thread. That's how I feel about my rowback.

597
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Okay, I'm guessing you didn't have a similar

598
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Speaker 1: experience with the solid baby, but I'm guessing you also

599
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: would have done near full extension if you were in

600
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: a similar spot. Yeah. Probably.

601
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Speaker 2: All I can tell you is rowback is shot to

602
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Speaker 2: the top of my polo rotation, and that I don't

603
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: know if I have to say anything else. It's just

604
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: that comfortable fits that well. The collar is that it's

605
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: because of the collar, right, It's that nice medium point

606
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: between soft and stiff. You don't want it to be flimsy,

607
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: but you don't want it to be rigid. It's right there,

608
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: it's staying in its lane. It's doing its job.

609
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it took them twenty iterations to find this

610
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: collar for the polos. I'm not kidding. The collar is

611
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Speaker 1: the truth here. Go out to Rowback today our ho back.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited about our Rowback. Yeah, they have the

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Speaker 1: subtle dog logo on it, which folks are gonna be

616
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Speaker 1: asking about. They have a great lineup of game day

617
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Speaker 1: polos in your school's favorite colors. They got q zips,

618
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Speaker 1: they got stuff for the dog, they got hats, you

619
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Speaker 1: name it. Also a little bit of backer Bayfield did them.

620
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's the other way around, but he wears it.

621
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Speaker 1: A bunch of other athletes have been seen wearing it too.

622
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Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Roback's a big time supporter of the

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Speaker 1: verbal Please do go on out there and check them out.

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Speaker 1: Rowback dot com, rhoback dot com. Your promo code is

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Speaker 1: solid twenty. I think you're more sure of how you

626
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Speaker 1: feel about Rowback than you are about any of these

627
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: games today. All right, let's move on to some other

628
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: games here that we got on our lengthy, surprisingly lengthy Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Slayton Yeah, no.

630
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Speaker 2: Yes, ty, do you see how I didn't even make

631
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: a joke when you said that, when you said surprisingly lengthy.

632
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm growing up, Ty, I'm maturing, and I just want

633
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Speaker 2: people to know.

634
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Let's go back in time if we could. But seven

635
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: thirty on Thursday. Gosh, a lot of people are listening

636
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: to this on a Thursday. Yeah, if you don't listen

637
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: to this till Friday, we could sound really dumb. But

638
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: SMU at Houston SMU is a thirteen point road favorite. Ah,

639
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go smooth here.

640
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Ty, because people are gonna be listening after the fact

641
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Friday Saturday morning, on the way to games and stuff.

642
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: I want you to speak in the most absolute language, Okay.

643
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't want you to sit anywhere near a fence.

644
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: I want you to take all extremes possible in picking

645
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: this game, and I will do the same so we

646
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: can sound especially brilliant or especially stupid.

647
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Shaggy. Shane Mischelle completes sixty eight percent of his passes

648
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and throws two touchdowns. Xavier Jones, star running back, adds

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: two more to his growing tally of touchdowns already. I

650
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: think SMU wins going away here pretty easily. All Right,

651
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: we have a short road week.

652
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: Favorite right an SMU correct at the same time as

653
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: a letdown look Ahead Sandwich. SMU beats Temple comfortably.

654
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Last week.

655
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: They're on the road once again at Memphis next week,

656
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: a very short road week. I'm gonna take those points

657
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna plant my flag pick on a week

658
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: the Houston Cougars.

659
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Are you locking this up? Yeah? Lock of the week?

660
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Whoa bluck of the week? Okay, I didn't say outright

661
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: when I'm taking those point nine PM on Friday, ESPN two,

662
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: We've got the USC Trojans on the road at Colorado. Uh, Colorado,

663
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: ten points was the opening line. A lot of money

664
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: came in on USC. It's up to twelve and a half.

665
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: I maintain that USC's pretty good. Okay, I think this

666
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: is a bad Colorado defense. I like USC's chances a

667
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: lot here, even on the road. I think they bomb

668
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Colorado by twenty eight. And let's make them my lock

669
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: of the week Luck of the week. Double locks here

670
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: in consecutive picks.

671
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: So USC is down a lot of dudes. Air down

672
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Marquis Stepp. I don't know what the status of Stephen

673
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: Carr is. Their starter of Ave Malapai at running back.

674
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: He's out for the year, Drake Jackson, Christian Rector Pollya

675
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: not Tyote like. There are a lot of big names,

676
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: Elijah Griffin. There's a lot of big names that are

677
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: either out or severely up in the air for the

678
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: time being. And I still feel good about us. It's

679
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: a short week on the road. It is a short

680
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: week on the road, but Colorado had the disadvantage. I

681
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: think they were on the road playing a night game

682
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: last week, so they it's a weird week for them

683
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: as well. They're beat up on defense. They just don't

684
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: have dudes on that side of the ball. It seems

685
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: like the offense is checking out a little bit. Do

686
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: you know anybody that went to USC?

687
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I know people through you that went to USC and

688
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: otherwise otherwise I know USC fans, right, So what I'm

689
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: saying USC fans, people that went to you know, Marcelo, Yeah, listener,

690
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: longtime listener.

691
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all hurt. Everybody they know is hurt. Everybody

692
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: associated with USC, anybody that has ever worn cardinal or

693
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: gold in Southern California, they're hurt. So I am selling

694
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: a little bit on SC long term this season because

695
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: of just how beat up they are everywhere, but Colorado

696
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: should be the cure for down health. So yeah, I

697
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: think USC is at least a couple touchdowns better.

698
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: Twelve pm on Saturday, ol City Saturday. Oh, now you're

699
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: in on the SEC network. Mississippi State at A and M.

700
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: A and M's a ten point home favorite, Dan, I'm

701
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: going A and M. I think this is actually somewhat

702
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: evenly matched. Okay, when Mississippi State is playing their best.

703
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't know when that will happen or if that

704
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: will happen again. Yeah, what is Mississippi State's best though?

705
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think they're good enough to

706
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with A and M here because

707
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I think A and m' is very one dimensional and

708
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: they're centered around Kellen Mont as I've been saying all year.

709
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: But at least with A and M, it's more of

710
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: a standard deviation situation where we sort of know what

711
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: we're going to get from week to week and I'm

712
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: just going to take the home team at Kyle Field.

713
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Mississippi State was a one man team on

714
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: offense in this game last year, a game that they

715
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: won because of Nick Fitzgerald. I think so too, Mississippi

716
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: State on the road this year has been yuck. It's

717
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: been a rough watch.

718
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: It's been yuck.

719
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: And it hasn't been many of those games. I think

720
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: it's just Auburn and Tennessee, which they looked poor in

721
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: each of them. So another game on the road. They

722
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: looked a little feisty early against LSU. But yeah, I

723
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: think a and I'm sure that win this by eleven

724
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: or twelve. Well's nine or ten?

725
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: Is the spread? Ten? Yeah? Yeah, eleven or twelve? You know.

726
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: The best case right now for an early window of

727
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: opportunity is on ESPN and high noon. Iowa at Northwestern. Yeah,

728
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: ESPN two. You could not pay me to watch this

729
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: game live. Man, this is tough. Ten and a half points.

730
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Iowa is a road favorite at Northwestern. I'm telling you,

731
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: don't lay the ten points. Do not force yourself to

732
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: watch this game. I expect it's all defense. I can't

733
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: possibly imagine taking Iowa here, not because I don't think

734
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: they're better. Northwestern's been mud, but I would not want

735
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: to lay ten and a half points here at all.

736
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was what a five to six point game,

737
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: pretty late again perdue last week for Iowa. They scored

738
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: two touchdowns in one game. The Iowa offense still feels

739
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: like they're in a bit of free fall. Northwestern's defense

740
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: is still pretty good.

741
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

742
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: I would just take this point and forget it's ever

743
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: about to happen, going to happen, ever happened. I want

744
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the existence of this game.

745
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, let's go to another twelve pm game,

746
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: this one on ESPM. We got Miami at Pitt. Pitt

747
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: opened as a two. They're up two and a four

748
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite.

749
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: Now, Dan, Yeah, this was the coming out party for

750
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett two years ago.

751
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Yep.

752
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: And then Miami totally trounced Pitt right before Pitt went

753
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: to the ACC Championship game last season. Niicosy Perry separated

754
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: his shoulder last week, and as of three or four

755
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: hours ago, many Diez was not ready to name a

756
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: starting quarterback for this game. Well, that to me tells

757
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: everything you need to know. I'm just going to give

758
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: these points. I think Pitt's a touchdown better. Miami's been

759
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: I think, at home basically all year. Have you seen

760
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: their schedule? Yeah, I want to say this is their

761
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: second road game of the season. It's crazy they haven't.

762
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: They haven't played a road game. I'm looking at their

763
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: schedule right now since the North Carolina game on September seventh,

764
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: it was a neutral site against Florida, but a true

765
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: road game since September seventh, Bethune, Cookman, Central, Michigan, Virginia Tech, Virginia,

766
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech all at Miami, which means they're finishing on

767
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: the road four out of five weeks. So the stretch

768
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: is not going to be all that exciting. So if

769
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: they're beat up at quarterback with the issues they have

770
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: on the line, yeah, I'm just going to take Pit

771
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: in the pit defense to do enough damage.

772
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I feel very confident about Pitt here. You know, we've

773
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: talked at nauseum about secretly decent pit mm hmm. But

774
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: as you look at the schedule and as you consider.

775
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: The itit's offense is bad, not secretly anything.

776
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: It is. It is, But as you consider the state

777
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: of play elsewhere in the ACC h and also the

778
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: strong Germanic influences of Pennsylvania. Yeah, work with me here, Okay,

779
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: ten and two Pit Sane on SPI, pitt I can't

780
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: do it. Sane on SPI.

781
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, no, I can't go that far all right. Also,

782
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: just the language of German makes me uncomfortable sane on SPI, yeah,

783
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm going pit as well. Give the four and a

784
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: half Oklahoma at k State?

785
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Did you take German in high school? I took German

786
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: in high school and college. WHOA, yeah? Really? Yeah? By choice?

787
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm a Hilton brand. What do you expect? Well?

788
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Hold on what languages were offered at Northampton High.

789
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: I had my choice of Spanish, German and French.

790
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: Is that pretty normal where you grew up? Probably not

791
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: to have a German language offering.

792
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've only ever gone to one Spry

793
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: But like, do you have friends that are like, oh, yeah,

794
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: I took ap German? What most of my friends? I'd

795
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: say it's a fifty to fifty split. I don't know

796
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: any one that took French, but most of my friends

797
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: took either either Spanish or German.

798
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: What a useless language? What a totally useless language unless

799
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: you plan on I don't know, selling German food somewhere

800
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania or living in Austria, Switzerland or Germany.

801
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I took Spanish.

802
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: I just figured everybody took Spanish and you took it

803
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: in college.

804
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: I did two years ago. You take ap German? No,

805
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: let's not get crazy. Was it offered? I don't think so.

806
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, what an intense class. That would have been

807
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: so many German tents. I'm not bad at I'm not

808
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: bad at the German language. It's been a while, but

809
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: I'm not bad.

810
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: If you woke up in Vienna, yeah, could you get around? Probably? Yes,

811
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: you could say, okay, where where is a bakery? I'm lost?

812
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: What where's this street? That's where my hotel is? I

813
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: think I could do it. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I'd have

814
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: to use some brain power to remember the words, but

815
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I could do it fair enough. I disagree, I mean

816
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't all right, ABC twelve pm. Oklahoma at k State.

817
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma a twenty four point road favorite. Here, Dan, give

818
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: me a reason to pick k State.

819
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: That's a lot of points. It's a home dog, it's

820
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: a lot of points. Oklahoma's bound to have a week

821
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: where they just look okay, I suppose.

822
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

823
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: When I thought, I try to think about what I

824
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: don't look at the spread as I'm thinking about how

825
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: I think the game will go. And it felt to

826
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: me like a forty two to seventeen game, and my

827
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: mass says that's twenty five points. Yes, so I'm I

828
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna lay those points.

829
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: Laying the points go into the Chris Climb in Fantasy Factory.

830
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: Are because they don't Oklahoma didn't have a huge game

831
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: last week, right, They just demolished West Virginia and they

832
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: have a bye week, so it's an open face look

833
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: ahead is the only reason to think, like, let's just

834
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: get out of this healthy. But I think even still

835
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: Kansas State has given up some points to the better

836
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 2: teams they face.

837
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: I agree, lay the points, all right, three point thirty

838
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: on Fox. This game is my worst nightmare. Texas at TCU.

839
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: To illustrate this point, TCU opened as a two and

840
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: a half point favorite at home. Yeah, and the line

841
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: has been bet three and a half points in the

842
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: other directions, So Texas is now one point favorite on

843
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: the road. Dan, I don't want to pick this game.

844
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: Do not make me pick this game here. All I'll

845
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: say is that the Texas defense is real bad right now?

846
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: It is real bad right now? Is it as bad? Is?

847
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Are they the cure for the common offense? Bad? They're

848
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: getting to that point. So Kansas after last week is

849
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: now the eighty second best passing sp plus team Kansas

850
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: after last week they're eighty second and they torched the

851
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: Texas defense. I know.

852
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: I think TCU's offense is good enough to take advantage.

853
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: I do it. You know you want to know I'm

854
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: going Texas here? You want? Did you see the uniforms?

855
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Tc is busting out? Baby, they're so good.

856
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I posted the picture of the Jeff Daniels character from

857
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: Dumb and Dumber clapping his hands with hisigar in his

858
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: mouth after watching the makeover from Dumb and Dumber because

859
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: he's applouding of something that looks so ridiculous and stupid.

860
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: You should look up the TCU uniforms and then forget

861
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: you ever did.

862
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm going Texas here outright? I can't do it. TC's

863
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: agree they're dead to me. All right, Let's rifle through

864
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: a bunch of other games here. Oklahoma State at Iowa

865
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: State three thirty on FS one. Iowa State a wow,

866
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: ten and a half point favorite.

867
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, shut up, I'm gonna go with the clones here.

868
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: I feel really good about.

869
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Them, do you. Yeah?

870
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: They're more complete on offense defensively against you know what

871
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: what Oklahoma State is going to win with, if they're

872
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: able to win is Chewba Hubbard and Iowa State defends

873
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 2: the run well enough. They're especially good at preventing big

874
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: plays on the ground, So I think it's a favorable

875
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: matchup at home Oklahoma State. I think they really were

876
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: counting on beating Baylor. I think they liked their shot

877
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: coming off of bye week. They were coming off of

878
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: by week. Yeah, coming off of bye week at home,

879
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: and I think it's just sort of disappointment right now

880
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: in Stillwater. So I think this one could get ugly.

881
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I do agree that there is disappointment after that. Who

882
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: many turnovers? Tied? Too many? But it seems notable to

883
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: me that this line moved as much as it did,

884
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: and seven felt better than ten and a half. So

885
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna take that ten and a half.

886
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I think I will stay wins at home, but it

887
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: might only be by seven. I think this is your

888
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: window of slo opportunity. Okay, yeah, seven pm ESPN Arkansas

889
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: at Alabama. Actually we got two games here back to back.

890
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: We've got Arkansas at Bama, which is a thirty three

891
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: point line, and Boston College at Klebson over in the

892
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: ACC at seven thirty. That's a thirty four point line here.

893
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: Any reason to take the points in either of these games?

894
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alabama's starting quarterbacks not playing. Yeah, he's full on

895
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: not playing. Ty, I thought Alabama was going to be

896
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: about forty points better. I had it in my head

897
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: about fifty two to thirteen, and so I think two

898
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: was worth eight to ten points. So I'm actually going

899
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: to take the points here.

900
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: I am laying the points in both. In both, I

901
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: think it's forty five to three over Boston College, and

902
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I think it's something like fifty two to ten over Arkansas.

903
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, that's fine.

904
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: I think I'd probably take the points in both, all right,

905
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: even though Boston College's defense is direct.

906
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the evening, we've got Arizona State at UCLA.

907
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: They are a four point road favorite and staying in

908
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. This is a late late game on

909
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: FS one col at Utah Utah nineteen point favorite. There, Dan,

910
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: how do you feel about those two? So? Man, I

911
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: would this is a This is a per firefly game

912
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Utah cal Ah. There it is.

913
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a firefly game because of Cal's injury

914
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: at quarterback, Utah should only be a you know, eight

915
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: nine point favorite, but it's up to eighteen or nineteen

916
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: because Cal without Chase Garber's is very very bad on offense.

917
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna even with Tyler Huntley's injury and I

918
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 2: don't know what his exact status will become game time.

919
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: You know what, No, this is too many points. I

920
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: think it's too many points. I think it's too many points.

921
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: I think Cal's probably gonna lose this game by double digits.

922
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: But that's that's too many. Yeah, I'm great, still a

923
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: great Evan Weaver Cal secondary it's too many.

924
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: And on the ASU Ucla side, this UCLA team's another

925
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: one that sort of confounds me. They've been really bad

926
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: and they've had a few flashes. I still don't understand

927
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: how they beat Stanford. I don't get it. Sanford has

928
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: nobody left I know, but they started their third string quarterback.

929
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: UCLA has been so bad this year. They've been so

930
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: bad this year.

931
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: Just so, UCLA's record in the Pac twelve is two

932
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: and two. ASU's record is two and two. This is

933
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: where the rubber meets the road on who's the best

934
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: fourth tier I don't know ASU has a good defense.

935
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: A SU is not a fourth tier pack twelve team.

936
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: I yeah, I think AC's gonna win this game by

937
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: a touchdown. I don't think they have to take advantage

938
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: of ASU's weakness.

939
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to ASU, al right. What other games quickly

940
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: do you have on your on your dock?

941
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: So Western Kentucky is traveling to Marshall. We're talking Conference

942
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: USA East implications. Hilltoppers have had a really nice defense

943
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: this year with Tyson Helton taking over. Virginia Louisville really

944
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: nice offense defense. We'll see how healthy Louisville is on offense,

945
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: and Virginia obviously has been very good on defense. Two

946
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: lane and Navy, it's a very nautical game.

947
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: Tie Okay, we've got a green wave and the midshipman. Sure.

948
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: We got an email from an Army fan saying that

949
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: Navy was fools gold and I just I love that salt.

950
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 2: I love it so much. Army is not as bad,

951
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: Navy's not as good. That's a good one. Indiana Nebraska

952
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: battle for the Big Ten's third tier. Who's that team? U?

953
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: C F.

954
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 2: Temple should be Honestly, it should be a headliner because

955
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: that's just a full on, really good American game, like

956
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: American Athletic Conference. I think I like Temple there, Yeah,

957
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: I like. I like good defenses at home.

958
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: I just do. And that's a night game. Also Utah State. Yeah,

959
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: also big Owl implications.

960
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: Don't forget owl city. Yes, Philadelphia is Owl City this weekend.

961
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: That's right, Utah stated Air Force, Big Mountain West Mountain implications.

962
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, no, yes, sure.

963
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: And then I just I do have a request, HiPE,

964
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: if we have time to squeeze something in you drop

965
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: that big, stinky, stroking, succulent, squirming drummond five.

966
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh right, Dan, Yes, sir, who you got? We got

967
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: Georgetown traveling to the campus on which you got married. Yes,

968
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: that's right. I'm going. Hoy is here class the conference.

969
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: The hoy is away from the hornet's nest. It is

970
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: multi sport field. Yes, not necessarily the best situation for them.

971
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Lee High. They are two and

972
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: ozer in conference this year. That's just tops, so we'll

973
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: go with them.

974
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: Colgate, I'm gonna go with George John Agan Colgate at

975
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: Holy Cross. Colgate gets off the schneid. Yeah, on the

976
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: Cross Saders that's right.

977
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: Give me Holy Crossaders. Yeah, I got to go Cross

978
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: Saders here.

979
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: Bucknell traveling to the class with the Patriot League. Just

980
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: in terms of alumni and status in the.

981
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: World, Lafayette gotta go yetis here? I go? Big John

982
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: Burke all the time? You know that? Yeah, that's true,

983
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: Big John Burke six four three twenty, Big dude. Did

984
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: you have a lock of the week? Yeah? I gave

985
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: my lock of the week. Ready it was your lock?

986
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: One more time? By the way, is that our last

987
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: Patriot League game? Only three? That's what you have down

988
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: here on this document. Okay, only three? There could be others.

989
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: If there are, We're with you in sport. What was

990
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: your What was your lock? My lock was usc Oh

991
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: your luck was as Friday Walk Yeah, and mine was Houston.

992
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: I believe.

993
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to regret that a lot, but you

994
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: know what, I like taking a stance and I like

995
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: sticking to it.

996
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: It appears there were only three Patriot legs. Wow, okay,

997
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: none of which appear to be televised nationally twelve thirty

998
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: one and three thirty pm, respectively. Oh you know what,

999
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: and let me amend a previous statement. Oh, Lehigh has

1000
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: worn three in a row. They started zero three, but

1001
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: they won three in a row. They're now three and three,

1002
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: so that's respectable and there, and they're tops in the

1003
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: Patriot League standings. So is that city Saturday? Then? Can

1004
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: you make a ruling? I don't have any better suggestions?

1005
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: Which is a probably single better one? No, No, it's

1006
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: so stupid that it fits should mention that.

1007
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: God, oh they're off this week. Okay, we have a

1008
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: Baylor sound. Are we just going to debut it the

1009
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: next time? We have to do it next?

1010
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: Next bailor time? Bailor time, next bailor game, will do it? Yeah, okay,

1011
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: fair enough preview All right, well, thank you to one

1012
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Speaker 1: same with her. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I would encourage

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1061
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Speaker 1: Daniel do me a favor. Please do wash that eleven

1062
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Speaker 1: percent poopy smell out. Thank you, Oh my gosh. At

1063
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Speaker 1: some point now and Sunday, yep, I promise I will

1064
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Speaker 1: rest of the week, all of their Saturday, all of

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Speaker 1: their Sunday. We'll talk to you at some point the

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Speaker 1: very in your future. In the meantime. For that guy

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Speaker 1: over there, friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty hilden Brand,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Catch you off soon. In meantime, stay

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Speaker 1: solid peace. Can you say stay solid in German? I

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Speaker 1: have to look it up. Ah yeah, stay solid German

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Speaker 1: translation bleep solida. All right, leave all of that in there.