WEBVTT - The Logistician

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we do comedy, as we say in the biz,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do comedy, all right, ready, Tony Michael. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any idea what it took just for me to

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<v Speaker 2>be here in the studio with you today?

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<v Speaker 3>You know I do not. I have a feeling you're

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<v Speaker 3>about to tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna tell you. Okay, Okay. I got up,

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<v Speaker 2>I put on my shoes, I took the sea train,

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped at the cafe on the corner here, great

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<v Speaker 2>coffee by the way, I took the elevator, and here

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing. It's anything but straightforward.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about the amount of logistics happening in the background

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<v Speaker 2>to get me here today. I'm talking train conductors, policemen, barristas,

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<v Speaker 2>coffee farmers, dorman, elevator technicians. When you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a logistical miracle that I'm here with you today.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I surely feel blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>For my heart pots one on one studios and Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Illustrated studios.

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<v Speaker 3>This is choosing sides, yes, one wow wow. Someone once

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<v Speaker 3>told me there's no plan B when it comes to logistics.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we joke about Ferrari's plan A, B, C, D, E,

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<v Speaker 3>F G, And they'll say, well, what's interesting is in

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<v Speaker 3>logistics there's no plan B. Plan A has to work,

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<v Speaker 3>those freights have to make it to the destination on time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think it would be wrong to say

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<v Speaker 4>there is no plan B because in a way, there

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<v Speaker 4>never is a plan. It's constantly evolving. So we start

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<v Speaker 4>with Plan A at the beginning of the season and

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<v Speaker 4>we end up with Plan Z in a few months,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's just everything happens. I mean, we had COVID,

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<v Speaker 4>we had strikes, we have wars, we have weather, we

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<v Speaker 4>have pandemics, we had I mean we saw that literally

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<v Speaker 4>the moment we said, okay, what next, what else can happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Something else was happening, happening, So we thought COVID and

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<v Speaker 4>the pandemic was the worst moment of our life. Now

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<v Speaker 4>even worse. Yeah, So I think we become expert of

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with issues, of finding solution to a problem, and

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<v Speaker 4>we always get to a plan in the end and

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<v Speaker 4>we make it happen. But to get to that make

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<v Speaker 4>it happen, we change multiple times. So I mean I

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<v Speaker 4>would say, yes, we always make it happen. But to

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<v Speaker 4>get there, there are a lot of plan ABCD.

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<v Speaker 3>There's lots of pivots happening. Yeah, this is Georgia Tierra Bassi,

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<v Speaker 3>DHL Motorsports track side manager.

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<v Speaker 4>If I had to list what I do, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we would be here for hours.

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<v Speaker 3>She's going to help us understand all of the logistics

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<v Speaker 3>that goes into the Formula one race we can.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're expecting me to be skeptical about this

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<v Speaker 2>week's topic, but I'm actually I'm all in great.

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<v Speaker 3>I admit I didn't peg you as a logistics man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it was US General Omar Bradley

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<v Speaker 2>who once said amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hold that to be inherently true.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely love that there we go. So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of focus on Formula one that goes into drivers,

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<v Speaker 3>the speed, the money, the glitz, the glamor, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that is true and all good and well. But

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<v Speaker 3>to me, truly, one of the things that astounds me

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<v Speaker 3>with this sport is the logistical component of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you've described it, but I've also heard

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<v Speaker 2>other people describe it as a traveling circus. Help me

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<v Speaker 2>understand why that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>There's nothing else like it. Really, there is nothing else

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<v Speaker 5>like Formula one logistically because of all the different components

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<v Speaker 5>that go into it. I mean we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 5>car is alone weigh two thousand pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Joe Pompiono.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe's a banker turns sport expert. He loves everything that

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<v Speaker 3>has to do with the underbelly of the sports machine,

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<v Speaker 3>so finances the in this model, but also the logistical

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<v Speaker 3>efforts underlining it all.

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<v Speaker 5>They're racing at top speeds of two hundred miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 5>The drivers are like movie stars relative to what's come

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<v Speaker 5>out over Netflix over the last few years and their popularity,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just unlike anything else that we have in

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<v Speaker 5>sports today. And I think it's really challenging specifically because

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<v Speaker 5>it's really one of the only global sports that we have.

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<v Speaker 5>There are sports leagues that play in other places. There's

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<v Speaker 5>you know, European football teams that play friendlies in the US,

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<v Speaker 5>and even the NFL goes international. But Formula one is

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<v Speaker 5>global in its blood. It's everywhere. They travel every single

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<v Speaker 5>year to the same places all over the world, and

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<v Speaker 5>it makes it really challenging because it's not an asset

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<v Speaker 5>like business where you can just kind of pick yourself up,

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<v Speaker 5>fly over there and then do the event. You need

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<v Speaker 5>the cars, you need grand stands put up, you need

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<v Speaker 5>premium hospitality. You obviously need to bring hundreds of employees.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to have the motor homes set up and

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<v Speaker 5>the hospitality areas for the teams themselves, and that's really

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<v Speaker 5>challenging logistically because there's so many different moving parts.

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<v Speaker 3>So remember when we talked about sponsorship a few episodes back,

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<v Speaker 3>and we talked about F one having official sponsors and

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<v Speaker 3>teams and drivers have their sponsorships and promoters have their sponsors. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>DHL has been one of the longest standing sponsors for

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<v Speaker 3>Formula one for over forty years, and DHL is one

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<v Speaker 3>of those sponsors that helps F one make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>they can put on this traveling circus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, DHL are the longest official partner of F one.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a Formula one fun I mean I like

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<v Speaker 4>the logistics behind it, but anything to do with Fromula one,

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<v Speaker 4>like drivers, teams and everything else, I kind of know

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<v Speaker 4>it because I'm working in it, so I have to

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<v Speaker 4>have a basic knowledge. Yeah, but I wouldn't define myself

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<v Speaker 4>as a Formula one fun if they ask me who

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<v Speaker 4>won after the race nine times after ten, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>no clue. I need to go on the internet and

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<v Speaker 4>check because I don't have the time to actually watch

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<v Speaker 4>the outcome. I need to focus on Okay, did they crash? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>then I have to ship more frame.

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<v Speaker 3>You are my dream expert who's just like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Formula one, that's all good. Let's talk logistics.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. The race is the only time we have where

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<v Speaker 4>it's quiet because everyone, of course is busy watching it,

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<v Speaker 4>so we don't get customer in the office. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>only two hours we have to catch up on emails

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<v Speaker 4>to relax a little bit, so we actually we use

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<v Speaker 4>that time to relax and catch up on anything we

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been able to do. I focus on air freight mainly,

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<v Speaker 4>but in our job, there is I mean, there is

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<v Speaker 4>nothing really you can focus on because we are track

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<v Speaker 4>side and we are the face of the company in

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<v Speaker 4>a way, so we need to know a bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>We have an office at the circuit in every single event,

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<v Speaker 4>so if there is an issue with any kind of

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<v Speaker 4>shipment air fhrase, see freight customs, anything, we have to

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<v Speaker 4>have the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>The HL the shipping company, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Shipping company, that same company that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>complain about that loses their package.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. I don't even know what DHL stands for, but

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully there's internet connection here.

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<v Speaker 3>No Google it for us or bring it for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bring it for you guys. Let's guess

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<v Speaker 2>drove it here myself. I like that DHL acronym meaning.

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<v Speaker 6>Gilblm put up a portion of his student loans to

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<v Speaker 6>start the company, bringing in his two friends, Adrian Dalcy

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<v Speaker 6>and Robert Lynn as partners. They shared a Plymouth duster

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<v Speaker 6>that they drove around San Francisco to pick up the

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<v Speaker 6>documents and suitcases. Then they would rush to the airport

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<v Speaker 6>where they booked flights using a relatively new invention, the

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<v Speaker 6>corporate credit card.

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<v Speaker 2>Dalzy, Hillblom and Lynn as expected, an American founded German

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<v Speaker 2>logistic company providing courier, package delivery and express mail service,

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<v Speaker 2>delivering over one point eight billion parcels per year. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what American founded German logistics. I'll tell you what when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to logistics, the Germans, I'm I'm pro German.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, when you say DHL sponsors. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean, like who's paying who here?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a bit of a mixture. And again the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers and the finances in F one always a bit opaque,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think on this one they probably look some

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<v Speaker 3>sponsors paying kind and what I mean by d is

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<v Speaker 3>they pay with the technology we mentioned Oracle, Aws, et cetera. Google,

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<v Speaker 3>they offer the tablets and all of that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>with this one there's a fair amount that DHL puts

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<v Speaker 3>up front. But also it's not because we're flying DHL

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<v Speaker 3>planes that Formula one doesn't actually pay for this, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're chartered planes and we'll get we'll get into the

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<v Speaker 3>n antiquity of that because the teams then have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay Formula one for spaces on that plane as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a couple of layers to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeez.

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<v Speaker 5>They've been working with DHL, their their logistics and chipping

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<v Speaker 5>partner for forty years now, and DHL actually sends thirty

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<v Speaker 5>five dedicated specialist Formula one to every single race to

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<v Speaker 5>oversee it.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, in total, we always have up to fifty

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<v Speaker 4>people on site at teach events.

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<v Speaker 5>It's one of those things where they're obviously presenting sponsor

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<v Speaker 5>of the series. They get paid a lot of money

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<v Speaker 5>and they get a lot of value out of the

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<v Speaker 5>partnership that they have with Formula One. And this is

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<v Speaker 5>their gig right, this is their job, this is what

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<v Speaker 5>the company does, so they've obviously put a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>resources towards it to make sure that everything runs smoothly.

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<v Speaker 4>We have got our air freight team, We've got C Freight,

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<v Speaker 4>We've got PADO Club, we have got our TV guys

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<v Speaker 4>who focus on the TV broadcasters. So everyone is a

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<v Speaker 4>specialist in something, but as well as they know how

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<v Speaker 4>to do everything, So we tend to have one team

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<v Speaker 4>that has got one specialist on each side, but overall

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<v Speaker 4>they can all cover each other's job. We all know

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<v Speaker 4>each other. We're all like a little village dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>the same people. You're just in a different country. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's like we were all a big team. Just move

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<v Speaker 4>in from A to B and BB to C. So

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<v Speaker 4>it does feel like a big family.

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<v Speaker 3>So we used to have a much lighter calendar. And

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<v Speaker 3>actually that's another hot topic in this sport of people

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<v Speaker 3>saying we don't need I'm a big believer in that

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<v Speaker 3>that we don't actually need more races It used to

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<v Speaker 3>be that we had maybe twelve, sixteen, eighteen races in

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<v Speaker 3>the season, which meant that more or less between each

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<v Speaker 3>race weekend there was a week or two or three.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're adding more and more races, the calendars getting

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<v Speaker 3>bigger and bigger, which means that we now have to

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<v Speaker 3>squish a lot of these races together, which means we

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<v Speaker 3>end up with double headers and sometimes triple headers.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the nature of the business model, which is race

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<v Speaker 5>promoters paying extravagant fees for the traveling circus to come

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<v Speaker 5>to town, and they're really giving a lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>annual revenue to Formula One. It's the basis of their business.

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<v Speaker 5>And in other sports, if we want to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>American specifically, if you think about the NFL or the NBA,

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<v Speaker 5>or any of the major sports leagues here in the US,

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<v Speaker 5>that position of power is really with the media companies,

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<v Speaker 5>right It's with the ESPNS, the Fox, the CBS, those companies,

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<v Speaker 5>because they're the ones that are providing the most revenue

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<v Speaker 5>to the sports leagues. It's no secret if you look

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<v Speaker 5>at the NFL, they make about twenty billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 5>year in annual revenue, but about ten or eleven billion

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<v Speaker 5>of that is coming specifically from their media partners. So

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<v Speaker 5>there's this constant tug of war going on of like,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to give you better games if you do this,

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<v Speaker 5>and vice versa. And I think that's the relationship in

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<v Speaker 5>Formula one that belongs with the race promoters because they're

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<v Speaker 5>the ones that are essentially I mean, if you look

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<v Speaker 5>at some of these races, they're paying upwards of fifty

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<v Speaker 5>million dollars every year for Formula one to come to

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<v Speaker 5>town for like three days, right, And that's obviously a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of money, especially when you break it down on

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<v Speaker 5>an annual basis per event. And I think that's the

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<v Speaker 5>reason why these race promoters have so much power. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's not to say that Liberty Media and Formula One

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<v Speaker 5>don't have power. I think that they just have to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of work together to figure out the best schedule,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's not always easy when you're moving twenty to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five different partners around.

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<v Speaker 4>In Unison, I think we are hitting the limit because

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<v Speaker 4>we keep adding and adding and adding, and you don't

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<v Speaker 4>realize that we have got one team of people that

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<v Speaker 4>are doing this race. So at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>to ask a person that has got a life, that

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<v Speaker 4>wants to have a life to do even more races.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it means a lot of days away from home.

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<v Speaker 4>From what I have seen, people are starting to complaining

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<v Speaker 4>now because it's I mean, you don't get any work

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<v Speaker 4>life balance. It's just work. It just never stops. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean sometimes it feels like we're shipping organs or I

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<v Speaker 4>mean we are saving lives, like your doctors saving lives.

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<v Speaker 4>The stress that you feel is enormous.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, we're going to do Vegas and then we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go and fly in Abu Dhabi, which is insane

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, because it's a twenty five hour trip

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<v Speaker 3>from Vegas to Abu Dhabi and then there's eleven hour

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<v Speaker 3>time difference between the two, and then we're expecting these

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<v Speaker 3>drivers to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not safe.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually tweeted something out last year when the NFL

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<v Speaker 5>traveled to Germany for their game, and there was a

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<v Speaker 5>huge debate about when the team should get there. I

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<v Speaker 5>forget who was. It was either the Dolphins or the

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<v Speaker 5>Chiefs that got there like three to four days before

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<v Speaker 5>the other team, And the argument was that if you're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to go a week early, you're better off

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<v Speaker 5>just going like two days early, because then your internal

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<v Speaker 5>clock is not going to be as messed up, and

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<v Speaker 5>by the time it reverts to that, you're moving back.

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<v Speaker 5>And I made a comment just kind of like a

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<v Speaker 5>throw away comment, essentially saying that it's really hard on

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<v Speaker 5>the body, and Formula one drivers have to do with this,

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<v Speaker 5>but the fact that you're getting hit, you know, makes

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<v Speaker 5>it that much harder. And I did that, and obviously

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<v Speaker 5>people got upset form of the one fan saying this

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<v Speaker 5>is a really physical sport. And I went back and

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<v Speaker 5>I hated that I did that because I'm not one

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<v Speaker 5>of those people that say Formula one isn't physical. It's

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<v Speaker 5>extremely physical, right. The g forces that you have in

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<v Speaker 5>certain corners and the toll that it takes on your body,

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<v Speaker 5>not only physically but mentally is really challenging. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's where jet lag comes in is I read

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<v Speaker 5>this quote. It was in the New York Times a

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<v Speaker 5>few years ago, and as a physio for one of

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<v Speaker 5>the teams, and they were essentially saying that what they

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<v Speaker 5>want to do is they want to get to a

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<v Speaker 5>location that they're going to race. If it's one hour

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<v Speaker 5>time difference, they want to get their one day ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's three, they want to get their three days ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you're racing in a time zone like Las

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<v Speaker 5>Vegas to Abu Dhabi, that's I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 5>ahead that is. It's probably like eight to ten hours

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<v Speaker 5>or something like that. That is extremely challenging, and it's impossible

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<v Speaker 5>because the race is actually only seven days beforehand. They

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<v Speaker 5>have families, they want to hang out at home, they

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<v Speaker 5>want these other things, so to do that. You've seen this.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean in Singapore, a lot of the drivers they're

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<v Speaker 5>completely inverting their schedule. Las Vegas was the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>They're staying up until the early morning hours because quality

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<v Speaker 5>isn't taking place in some instances, or practiced till one

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<v Speaker 5>or two in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>We were having breakfast at four pm, lunch at midnight,

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<v Speaker 3>and dinner at like two am when we would get

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<v Speaker 3>back into the Hope. And you think, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to get in a car and race and experience

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<v Speaker 3>the g forces and I'm already messed up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I mean, the half of the drivers and the

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<v Speaker 5>team members probably don't even know what time it is

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<v Speaker 5>when they go to certain places, right, because it's just

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<v Speaker 5>it's like a blur and you're doing it for several

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<v Speaker 5>months at a time, and that's obviously difficult on the drivers.

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<v Speaker 5>They're the athletes that are performing, but I think one

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<v Speaker 5>of the most underrated parts is really how hard it

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<v Speaker 5>is on the team members too.

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<v Speaker 4>In Las Vegas, we were starting at a three pm

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<v Speaker 4>and finishing at six am in the morning, so you

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<v Speaker 4>adapt to the actual schedule of the race. That is

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<v Speaker 4>another interesting part of the job. You just have to

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<v Speaker 4>work when you have to work, and it's like your

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<v Speaker 4>body adapts to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, these little boys can raise their little cars around

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<v Speaker 2>the track yep, yep today, heart's content.

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<v Speaker 4>You get used to sleep when you can sleep, so

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<v Speaker 4>like like you have eight hours off, okay sleep, that's

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just something that your body understand when

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<v Speaker 4>you have time to sleep, sleep, because any other time

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<v Speaker 4>you just have to do something, so you just you

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<v Speaker 4>learn to use the time you're given.

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<v Speaker 5>In some instances, they're also away from their family for

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<v Speaker 5>months at a time. Right when the European schedule comes out,

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<v Speaker 5>it could be two months at in a row that

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<v Speaker 5>you're away from your family most of the week. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's really difficult. Not only them, but their families too,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have kids and other things like that. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think part of it's the driver's, part of it's

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<v Speaker 5>the teams, and it adds up to this just extremely

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<v Speaker 5>complicated scenario logistically that's almost impossible to solve. But they're

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<v Speaker 5>getting better at it each year.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we all want to grow whatever sport we're talking about, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but they all get sucked into this idea football, baseball

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<v Speaker 2>of more and more and more, and it dilutes the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of the sport and it puts the athletes at risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it, and it's interesting. That's not what this

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<v Speaker 2>episode's about.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but it's a fair point because one of the

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<v Speaker 3>arguments that I make all the time is not we're

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<v Speaker 3>diluting the championship. The less races there are, the more

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<v Speaker 3>important each race is towards the championship and the championship points.

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<v Speaker 3>The more races you add. The fact that we have

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<v Speaker 3>this year Maxwistappan who's won the championship and there was

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<v Speaker 3>what four or five races still to go, is an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting problem that we are in now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a long flight to Abu Dhabi.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a long flight, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about those special gloves with the monitors on them

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<v Speaker 2>at heart rate? What if that gets lost in the flight.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you just get a left glove.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is part of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you'll only know what the athletes left hand heart rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the left. Yes, we're digressing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a short logistical break here so we can

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<v Speaker 2>listen to some ads. So back from the ads. So

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask maybe a silly question, maybe a brilliant question.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure it's a brilliant question.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be so sure, honest alpine races they come in,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they usually coming? Fifteen sixteen? It depends. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter what midfield. Okay, midfield for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of this question has no bearing on the question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they pull into the paddock at the end. Where does

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<v Speaker 2>the actual physical car go?

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<v Speaker 4>You will never see a full car. It's always in pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>The only time you see a car, it means it's

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<v Speaker 4>a show car. So it's not an actual car. It's

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<v Speaker 4>too sensitive to send it completely built, so it is

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<v Speaker 4>completely put in parts and sent as each individual item.

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<v Speaker 4>You will never see a car. You will only see

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<v Speaker 4>a box containing parts of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>How much equipment are we talking here?

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of trucks, four or five trucks, Is it

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<v Speaker 2>just like the Formula one cars and they put a

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<v Speaker 2>little good track on top.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they can get there faster because they can go

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<v Speaker 2>so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>The visual to that is pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>Would effect win track?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, Okay, if you want numbers, I have numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they want numbers, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifteen hundred tons of equipment throughout the entire year and

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<v Speaker 5>they're traveling seventy five thousand miles.

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<v Speaker 3>The DHL cargo travels in six or seven Boeing seven

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<v Speaker 3>four seven cargo planes.

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<v Speaker 4>In Europe it is up to nearly four hundred trucks

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<v Speaker 4>for every race.

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<v Speaker 3>If you had too much time on your hands and

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<v Speaker 3>you wanted to put each of these trucks one in

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<v Speaker 3>front of the other, they would make a convoy longer

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<v Speaker 3>than five kilometers.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not all the HL trucks. The teams have got

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<v Speaker 4>their own hospitality trucks and garages which are all rended.

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<v Speaker 3>Each team ships the equivalent weight of eight elephants per race.

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<v Speaker 2>How many kangaroos is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Michael assuming Tony is referring to an average African male

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<v Speaker 6>elephant and Michael has in mind the male red kangaroo.

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<v Speaker 6>The answer would be one thousand and three hundred kangaroos

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<v Speaker 6>worth of freight per team per race.

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<v Speaker 3>Over a season, the teams will ship six hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty tons of air freight and five hundred tons of

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<v Speaker 3>sea freight.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's that on elephants?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny that you as I have the

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<v Speaker 3>number in elephants. That's the equivalent of one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty five elephants. I think that's all the stats that

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<v Speaker 3>I have for you related to logistics.

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<v Speaker 2>I weigh roughly point zero one five of an elephant.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not too bad.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the more interesting parts is actually the kits

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<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of the season. So again everything's loaded

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<v Speaker 5>up on maybe two, three or four cars that are

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<v Speaker 5>going to European races and driving to each other. Most

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<v Speaker 5>of the equipment feels fits on there, excluding the motor homes,

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<v Speaker 5>which are obviously a little bit bigger need to be

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<v Speaker 5>on bigger trucks. But when we talk about flyaway races,

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<v Speaker 5>all of that equipment is mostly transported. That isn't the

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<v Speaker 5>cars and other things on these kits that are sent

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<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>They have got between five to sik set and they

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<v Speaker 4>can rotate them in between races and they can cover

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<v Speaker 4>the whole year.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that logistically is one of the more

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.639
<v Speaker 5>challenging parts because those are happening in elite frog positions. Right,

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 5>They're not only going to Zanvor and then going back

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.439
<v Speaker 5>to the factory. They're going to Miami. But instead of

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<v Speaker 5>going back to the factory, they're staying on the road

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<v Speaker 5>for another three months, and they're being transported to Austin,

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<v Speaker 5>to Las Vegas, to Canada, to Mexico and other places

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<v Speaker 5>in the same area.

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<v Speaker 3>What part of this job do you sit back and go,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe we pull this off.

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<v Speaker 4>This makes nose, I would say, what is chocking me

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<v Speaker 4>every week is how quickly everything is part done and

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<v Speaker 4>moved because you wouldn't even imagine it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any idea when they start packing up,

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<v Speaker 3>for example after race? Yeah, like right after the race,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think there's like a day to.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, let me tell let me tell you how the

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<v Speaker 2>Daily Show does it? Okay, Okay, So we go to

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta last year for four shows and Thursday the show

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<v Speaker 2>ends at eight thirty one pm and they start packing

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<v Speaker 2>up at eight thirty two pm, Like before you're even

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<v Speaker 2>done finishing, they're taking the lights down. I would assume

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<v Speaker 2>that F one is that time's a bit bazillion.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very close to that. They actually the moment the

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<v Speaker 3>cars hit the track, they already are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're already doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>While the race is happening, everyone is focused on the

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.639
<v Speaker 4>race itself. Everything else is moving and you don't see

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 4>what's happening because you're focusing on the race. But in

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<v Speaker 4>the meantime, everything else is being parked because a few

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<v Speaker 4>hours afterwards everything has to leave. So it is just

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<v Speaker 4>crazy how it takes maybe three four days to set

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<v Speaker 4>it up and a few hours to pack it crazy

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<v Speaker 4>and unless you are on site, you just don't realize

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<v Speaker 4>how quickly that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not uncommon for the entire F one presence to

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<v Speaker 3>be completely gone eight hours after the Grand Prix is finished,

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.680
<v Speaker 3>like everyone's just disappeared, which is kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a one night stand right.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, and then you're not and.

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Then you're gone, just longing, just.

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Just gone on the bedside table.

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<v Speaker 5>Miss me and I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 2>When do we go by boat? When do we go

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<v Speaker 2>by plane. Okay, when do we drive? When is it horseback?

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>What what mode of transport are we using? And why

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 2>you can't go Vegas Abu Dhabi on a truck?

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<v Speaker 5>No you can't, Right, So it depends on how much

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 5>time you have in between certain events. Right. So the

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<v Speaker 5>kits that I talk about, those will move on boats

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 5>because you have several months before you need them, and

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<v Speaker 5>then once they get to Miami or Brazil or wherever

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.439
<v Speaker 5>they're going, then they'll be transported on cars to the

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 5>next races from there. But things that would go on

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 5>a plane would be the cars themselves or things that

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 5>you need to get there immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>The air freight is normally the most valuable items, which

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<v Speaker 4>is normally like what is extremely sensitive? Yeah, it cannot

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 4>be replicated. It's one set only, and that goes air freight.

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.919
<v Speaker 5>A lot of like the general equipment we'll call it carjacks, tables, chairs,

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 5>things like that will already be there because it'll be

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.360
<v Speaker 5>on one of the kits. But obviously the cars need

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 5>to get there, so that will go on a plane

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 5>and other like immediate things that could be necessary that

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 5>you don't necessarily want to put on a kit several

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 5>months before that you're going to use at the actual

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 5>race that are either expensive like the cars or extra

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 5>engines or things like that will be transported via plane.

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 5>And the trucks are really just used for the European races,

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 5>so those are things that will transport everything from the

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 5>cars to the engines, to the tables and the chairs

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 5>and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, an influence is also the costs. Of course,

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 4>air freight is more expensive than sea fraight. So what

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to do because of the cost cup is

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.880
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to send as much as they can sea

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 4>freight because it's cheaper to send it sea freight than

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<v Speaker 4>air freight.

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<v Speaker 3>So at any given time, there are ships and planes

0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 3>with f one cargo going around the world. Only imagine

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 3>plopping all of this up on a map is pretty insane.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 3>They but for the flyaway races, they divide the cargo

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 3>into really important crucial equipment and then the stuff that

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 3>can go slow that we also have four five different

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 3>packs the same version of the same stuff.

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Then it's going to land in a port and run

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>through customs.

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Customs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've like in my little comedy world, I

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>get hung up performing in Canada because I got to

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 2>go through their like tax department, you know, and then

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like now I'm in the States. And then they

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 2>go to Australia and it's like this is just me

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and I can only imagine it's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's a single story where a race

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 3>couldn't start because the cargo didn't arrive. But there are

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 3>many stories of just like riots have broken out in

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 3>a country, or there's a canal that's been blocked because

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.160
<v Speaker 3>lots of and so all the ships are being waited,

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 3>and at that point they will take a snap decision

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 3>and go, well, the cargo that we were sending to

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 3>another location, let's dock it, let's put it on a

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 3>plane and get it back here fast. And so you

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 3>have these insane decisions that come up those moments because

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 3>the world is what it is and certain things that

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 3>we can't control.

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think this year a race was canceled because

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>of a flood, Right.

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>There's not a flood. Tire amphibious vehicles, those things are sweet.

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>There's your kids ever do those?

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 7>It's gonna turn on the propellor.

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna hold lord and we're gonna quaggle.

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<v Speaker 5>Lot it roll. I think one of the craziest things

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 5>to me is the motor homes at.

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 3>The European races, which makes sense if you've ever gone

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 3>camping versus taking a plane trip, you can take a

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 3>lot more with you. So those motor homes that you're

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 3>talking about, they aren't much bigger and is more to

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 3>build because they bring more at the European races.

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 5>And specifically Red Bulls. Red Bull is famous that they

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 5>bring their motor home to Monaco and they've stood it

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 5>in the bay, right, And what they do is they

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 5>literally bring it to the bay and they construct it.

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 5>It takes twenty five crew members thirty six hours to

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 5>assemble it and one day to take it down. They

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 5>put it on a barge and they bring it to Monaco, right,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 5>they float it down the Italian Riviera, which I think

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 5>is just absolutely amazing, and it speaks to the lengths

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 5>that these teams will go to to make sure that

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 5>everything's set up. Because part of what we have to

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 5>remember here is that most of Formula one revolves around sponsorships, right,

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 5>certainly at the lower level teams, the majority of their

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 5>income is coming through sponsorships, and maybe a little bit

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 5>less called forty percent of their income is coming through

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 5>sponsorships at the high level teams, but these teams are

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 5>making you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in some

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 5>cases from sponsorships each year. So entertaining those sponsors in

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 5>places like the paddock club or in the motor homes

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 5>themselves is especially important to the income and the business

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 5>of these teams. So Red Bull certainly takes it seriously.

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Mercedes Ferraris and a bunch of these teams take it

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 5>really seriously because they know that if people come to

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 5>the races, they have fun, in some cases, they're going

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 5>to spend more money with the team next year, or

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 5>it could sell a sponsorship in the future. And that's

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 5>a huge reason why Formula one kind of gets this

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 5>reputation for just being this luxurious, you know, sporting event

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 5>where there's champagne and there's caviare and there's lobster and

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 5>there's all these things. And I think part of the

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 5>reason why that's true in some cases is because they're

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 5>entertaining corporate partners that are paying tens of millions of

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 5>dollars annually to make sure that everything runs smoothly.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Yo, Hi, this is when you would play my stand

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>up my stand up comedy joke on my special about

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>packing for driving versus packing for flying.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 7>When you fly somewhere, you really think about packing. You know,

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 7>you talk it out with each other. We stuff things

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 7>in the shoes. That's a good spot. But if you're

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 7>driving somewhere, Brillian, bring it. We're driving, brigand.

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Honey. Should I bring the blender?

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 7>I may want to make fresh tomato soup this weekend.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>What about the treadmill? It's already packed. We're driving.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 7>We're driving, person your see fill twelve of you ride?

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Does there happen to be I don't know a fun fact.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Mary Poppins going in my bag. Now,

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 3>give me a fun fact.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Give me a fun fact.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>There's a rule now that states that when the team

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 3>crates are placed on the pit lane of any venue,

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 3>that's when they all arrives. Teams are not allowed to

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 3>access their team crates until every single team has received

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 3>all of their cargo.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Exactly exactly.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Love this, like fence. Love this.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I think why every team is on

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 3>board with this is you just never know what could

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 3>happen to you, and if it could be you so

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that's pretty cool. It's both but it's also

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>a safety and security thing as well, that you can't

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>have one team upfloading stuff well and other team's not

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 3>doing anything, because then those people are probably hanging around

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>on the pit lane and all the pitwalk and they

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be there.

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>And I also love that F one with all of

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>its data and game strategy and logistics, they all just

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>agree like sometimes they fuck up your luggage, so we're

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>all just gonna wait, like even like they're there's so

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>in control of everything, and but they're still just like,

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>look as if at a fairness. I thinks I love

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>this rule.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 3>And it's even if there's like two or three shipments,

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>like you wait until everyone, which I think is a

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>nice role. I do that now with my husband when

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>we both order something and we're both waiting for it,

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>we will open up our packages when we've both seen.

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>That, oh that's not what I did.

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Won't be doing that.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>We're at a point in my family where if your

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>food's ready, you eat it. You you know, but I'm

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I'm hoping we also change that eventually. But

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 2>with we have kids, two little kids, it's just like

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you eat when you can eat.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 3>We're hoping that everyone in F one is adults at

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 3>this point.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I would love it if we could hire an F

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>one logistician at our house, like one, because that would

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>help me manage my life tire as well to its

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>full capacity. Let's keep moving moving. One of the attributes

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>that I'm really enjoying this season, okay, of learning about

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>F one is this cooperative competitiveness. Tennis has this a lot,

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Like you end up having to practice oftentimes with someone

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>who might be your opponent because you have to and

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>both parties are like, we're both in this town or

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>country together, we need to practice. Or you split a

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 2>hotel room with someone that's in the draw. You might

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>play that person. But I'm really enjoying learning how F

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>one has some of that cooperation.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I must be the same, and I imagine answer

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 3>this for me. They're practicing amongst themselves because there's no

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>one else that's better than the coming.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, you can only practice with so many people. I

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>like that, all right, So what's being moved? The cars?

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Everything?

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>The wheels, does PERELLI take the wheels, the gloves.

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely everything you see and that is used during a

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 3>race weekend is most likely being transported.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Apart from the circuited cell. Yeah, that's the only thing

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 4>that that.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Sense because the circuit doesn't actually belong to Formula one.

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 3>It actually belongs to the promoters. So that's not going anywhere.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Even think about even like we talked about all the data,

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>there's data storage systems and data servers that are being

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 3>moved as well. There's cable that's being moved like that list.

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>There's a guy with a handcuff on a briefcase that's

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>got the hard drives.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Never met him. Oh you want a fun fact? Yeah,

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 3>so want of fun fact doesn't involve a guy with

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 3>a briefcase and handcuffs, but it does involve a guy

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 3>called the f one tailor with a backpack. There is

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>one guy that walks up and down the paddock who

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 3>is sole job and only responsibility is to tailor anything

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>that any of the drivers need, whether it's their gloves,

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the suit anything. There's a fantastic story that I was

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 3>told by one of the team's last see about Fernando Alonso.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 3>The way they they work with very specific manufacturers and

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>very specific teams. The people who do the under garments,

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>the people who do the race suits and everything is

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 3>tailored to absolutely an inch of their lives. And the

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>person who had been doing Alonzo's gloves for many, many

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>years changed and apparently Alonzo when he tried on his gloves,

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 3>he was like, this doesn't feel right. What's happened? And

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 3>they said, oh, we've got to do it, and He's like,

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I can feel it, and so I'm going to need

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 3>a few jass the changes. So there is there isn't

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>a guy with a briefcase, but there's a guy with

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>a backpack who's called the tailor, who gets called into

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 3>whenever any of the drivers need a bit of tailoring.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>That's call job.

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>There's an a called tailor for these drivers.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Correct.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>You know there's a guy in New York. Yeah that

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>you probably know this. YOHI Endzoltan. There's a guy in

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>New York who twenty four hour emergency phone will saw

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>your couch in half? Wait what then move it because

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>it won't fit in your apartment. In New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>people have a huge problem of their couches won't You

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<v Speaker 2>can get in the apartment, but you can't get in

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<v Speaker 2>the building or in the elevator. Called the couch doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll saw your couch in half and then move it

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<v Speaker 2>upstairs for you and then reassemble it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I just had a situation with a puppy.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll saw the puppy and half.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly give us the rest of that story.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean the point. I'm just gonna go right

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<v Speaker 1>to the point here. But if you guys need to

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<v Speaker 1>have a really good and I think you know, not cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, you get your money's worth couch

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<v Speaker 1>cleaner yea, if anybody needs so, yeah, yeah it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about my favorite part of logistics when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to anything which involves large groups and travel. Carrots food, yes, close,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, carrots. Like if you're if if Lance Stroll

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<v Speaker 2>loves his carrot and he's in Las Vegas and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to Abu Dhabi, Like, is someone going grocery shopping

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<v Speaker 2>in Abu Dhabi? Is they bring it's just caviar? Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>but bad example, but catering food? Like, how is all

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<v Speaker 2>this happening? Someone's in charge of this, Someone is in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of the food.

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<v Speaker 3>You've actually absolutely there's someone in charge of the food.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've probably just named one of the few things

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't really travel with the flyaway races, so catering

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<v Speaker 3>is mostly organized on site. Also, things like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>like the amount of people moving, like things like booking

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<v Speaker 3>hotel rooms, cars, even internet connectivities, all stuff that's generally

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<v Speaker 3>done on site. You know, they're not creating motor homes

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<v Speaker 3>for all of these people. They are maybe for the

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<v Speaker 3>drivers and the direct teams in European races, but in

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<v Speaker 3>flyaway races, this is all stuff that's left to what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when we land out.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about the like data cables.

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<v Speaker 3>Data cables I think is a mixture. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>teams have the cables and the connectivity that they need

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<v Speaker 3>for their own screens. But then, as with there anythinking

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<v Speaker 3>F one, there's the stuff that the f I needs

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<v Speaker 3>to govern that race. There's the stuff that Formula one

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<v Speaker 3>needs to put on the race and run f on

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<v Speaker 3>TV and all of that, and then it's all of

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff that every team needs.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be perfect, it has to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Mix CHAMPI slow like oh you know Vegas, their internet's

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<v Speaker 2>a little slow, Like what's the password? Like, it's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be perfect, it's got to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>There are days where you just can't keep up. You

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<v Speaker 4>just hate it because the stress is a lot, the

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<v Speaker 4>deadlines are just unbelievable. But when you see that it's

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<v Speaker 4>a team efforts. So when we all work together as

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<v Speaker 4>a team, which we just learn to understand each other well,

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<v Speaker 4>learn when is the right moment to ask something, to

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<v Speaker 4>do something, well, learn when it's the right moment. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>just avoid any additional stress. So it becomes in a way,

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<v Speaker 4>a little family where you all know how to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with each other and you know how to make it work. So,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you can actually see that by working as

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<v Speaker 4>a team, we make it happen. And regardless of how

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<v Speaker 4>much we may argue and fight in between, at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, we have made it happen together.

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<v Speaker 4>So every single individual has done something to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what makes it rewarding at the end, because

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<v Speaker 4>on Sunday night, after every race, you can see that

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<v Speaker 4>your effort have made it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's boats, Yeah, there's planes.

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<v Speaker 3>Explains six to seven planes.

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<v Speaker 2>There's trucks. None of this sounds good for the climate

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<v Speaker 2>or environment.

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<v Speaker 5>It's probably not. I think it's not up to me

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<v Speaker 5>to decide. Probably where Formula one is on their net

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<v Speaker 5>carbon neutral promise, but they've obviously made that and it's

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<v Speaker 5>something that I know that they're serious about. So we'll

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<v Speaker 5>leave it up to Liberty Media and Formula one to

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<v Speaker 5>give us some numbers in the near future about what

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<v Speaker 5>progress they've made on that, and hopefully we're at least

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<v Speaker 5>trending in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to come across as snooty because this

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<v Speaker 2>is a competitive sport. It's all gratuitous and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to have ye so there is an

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<v Speaker 2>acceptability of like the stuff costs money and costs resources,

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<v Speaker 2>but f one it seems a little bit over the top,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe we could do a better job.

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<v Speaker 3>These other times where I really miss Sebastian Vettel because

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 3>he was so good at talking about I absolutely realized

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<v Speaker 3>that I race in the sport that guzzles fuel as

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<v Speaker 3>we travel around the world, and at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>I'm campaigning to save the bees because we need to

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<v Speaker 3>save the environment. And he has such an.

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<v Speaker 2>Edgy campaign to save the bees.

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<v Speaker 3>He bought bees this year to Japan and built opponent's helmets.

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<v Speaker 1>They were on the track, they had.

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<v Speaker 3>These like little bee hives on the track. That they

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 3>were like painting. I don't know if the bees were

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<v Speaker 3>actually on track, but the beehives one track, but maybe

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 3>the bees were there too be meet up. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>so eloquent at talking about both things can be true,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 3>like this is a sport that's constantly you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Better, because that could also be seen as like rich

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>pro athlete is so out of touch so with reality.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're saying he did it in the right way.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it and I these are not my words,

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<v Speaker 3>but one of the people who used to work very

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>closely with him explained it this way, like he is

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<v Speaker 3>middle class, white sis married man, and yet he always

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 3>campaigned for all of the right things. He always found time.

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 3>He's the last person who needed to campaign for LGTBQ rights,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 3>He's the last person who needed to campaign for eco friendliness.

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 3>He's the last person who needed to campaign for you know,

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 3>equality and diversity, and yet he was always there and

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<v Speaker 3>he still is. I only say that as he's no

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 3>longer in the sport and left last year, But he

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 3>had such a good way of saying, I have to

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<v Speaker 3>be comfortable driving and being in this sport and also

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<v Speaker 3>doing good in the world. One doesn't take away from

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 3>the other as long as you're conscious and willing to

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<v Speaker 3>have And look, here's the amazing thing about him is

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<v Speaker 3>he had those conversations under the Aramcobana and got very

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 3>comfortable at doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world of Sebastian Vettel, the B and LGBTQ

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<v Speaker 2>was b's.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Michael, final thoughts. Are you a logistics fan?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a logistics fan. I'm impressed and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's going to make me turn on a

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<v Speaker 2>race to know that all this school logistics is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But to even just watch Su Paulo, Vegas Abu Dhabi,

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<v Speaker 2>it just blows your mind that it's the same teams

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and the same drivers in such a different part of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. It blows my mind. And you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a wife that's like, how's Abu Dhabi this week?

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, it's actually I'm in Vegas. You know,

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, well, whatever, I don't give a.

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Shit, you're not here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly what you've helped me appreciate is when I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>the race, there was just so many factors that made

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<v Speaker 2>this race happen, much like me getting here today, with you,

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<v Speaker 2>blessing you. You said you were blessed?

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 3>What was the existence?

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you say it was? We as we all feel blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>We all feel blessed watching F one race, knowing all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that needed to happen to make that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless you.

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<v Speaker 3>So next week, I'm Choosing sides f one, the gossip.

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<v Speaker 3>What is Formula one without the literati? The gossip, the scandal,

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<v Speaker 3>the drama. It's going to be salacious watching and Hi inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get down there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We will have the awkward celebrity moments, we will propagate

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<v Speaker 3>unsubstantiated rumors, and we will have a pandemic of luxury.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch feels cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait? Talk about that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go, oh dear,