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Speaker 2: Should we do comedy, as we say in the biz,

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Speaker 2: let's do comedy, all right, ready, Tony Michael. Do you

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Speaker 3: You know I do not. I have a feeling you're

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you. Okay, Okay. I got up,

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Speaker 2: I put on my shoes, I took the sea train,

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Speaker 2: coffee by the way, I took the elevator, and here

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: That seems pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. It's anything but straightforward.

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Speaker 2: Think about the amount of logistics happening in the background

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Speaker 2: it's a logistical miracle that I'm here with you today.

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Speaker 3: Well, I surely feel blessed.

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Speaker 2: For my heart pots one on one studios and Sports

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Speaker 2: Illustrated studios.

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Speaker 3: This is choosing sides, yes, one wow wow. Someone once

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Speaker 3: told me there's no plan B when it comes to logistics.

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Speaker 3: You know, we joke about Ferrari's plan A, B, C, D, E,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it would be wrong to say

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Speaker 4: because it's just everything happens. I mean, we had COVID,

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Speaker 3: There's lots of pivots happening. Yeah, this is Georgia Tierra Bassi,

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Speaker 4: If I had to list what I do, I think

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Speaker 3: She's going to help us understand all of the logistics

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Speaker 3: I admit I didn't peg you as a logistics man.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing else like it. Really, there is nothing else

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Speaker 3: This is Joe Pompiono.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Joe's a banker turns sport expert. He loves everything that

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Speaker 5: They're racing at top speeds of two hundred miles per hour.

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Speaker 2: The HL the shipping company, the.

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Speaker 6: Gilblm put up a portion of his student loans to

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Speaker 2: Dalzy, Hillblom and Lynn as expected, an American founded German

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Speaker 2: delivering over one point eight billion parcels per year. That's

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Speaker 5: They've been working with DHL, their their logistics and chipping

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Speaker 5: It's the nature of the business model, which is race

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Speaker 2: Also, these little boys can raise their little cars around

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Speaker 3: No, but it's a fair point because one of the

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Speaker 2: So it's a long flight to Abu Dhabi.

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Speaker 2: Then you'll only know what the athletes left hand heart rate.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a short logistical break here so we can

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Speaker 3: Sure it's a brilliant question.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be so sure, honest alpine races they come in,

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Speaker 4: You will never see a full car. It's always in pieces.

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Speaker 4: You will never see a car. You will only see

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Speaker 2: How much equipment are we talking here?

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Speaker 2: And they can get there faster because they can go

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, Okay, if you want numbers, I have numbers.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen hundred tons of equipment throughout the entire year and

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Speaker 3: The DHL cargo travels in six or seven Boeing seven

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Speaker 4: In Europe it is up to nearly four hundred trucks

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Speaker 3: If you had too much time on your hands and

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Speaker 4: They're not all the HL trucks. The teams have got

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Speaker 3: Each team ships the equivalent weight of eight elephants per race.

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Speaker 2: How many kangaroos is that?

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Speaker 6: The answer would be one thousand and three hundred kangaroos

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Speaker 3: Over a season, the teams will ship six hundred and

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Speaker 2: But what's that on elephants?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny that you as I have the

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Speaker 3: sixty five elephants. I think that's all the stats that

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Speaker 2: I weigh roughly point zero one five of an elephant.

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Speaker 3: That's not too bad.

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Speaker 4: They have got between five to sik set and they

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Speaker 5: And I think that logistically is one of the more

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Speaker 5: They're not only going to Zanvor and then going back

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Speaker 3: What part of this job do you sit back and go,

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Speaker 4: This makes nose, I would say, what is chocking me

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Speaker 4: moved because you wouldn't even imagine it.

441
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea when they start packing up,

442
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: for example after race? Yeah, like right after the race,

443
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 3: do you think there's like a day to.

444
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: Like, let me tell let me tell you how the

445
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: Daily Show does it? Okay, Okay, So we go to

446
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta last year for four shows and Thursday the show

447
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: ends at eight thirty one pm and they start packing

448
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: up at eight thirty two pm, Like before you're even

449
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: done finishing, they're taking the lights down. I would assume

450
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 2: that F one is that time's a bit bazillion.

451
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 3: It's very close to that. They actually the moment the

452
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 3: cars hit the track, they already are.

453
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: They're already doing it.

454
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 4: While the race is happening, everyone is focused on the

455
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 4: race itself. Everything else is moving and you don't see

456
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 4: what's happening because you're focusing on the race. But in

457
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 4: the meantime, everything else is being parked because a few

458
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 4: hours afterwards everything has to leave. So it is just

459
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 4: crazy how it takes maybe three four days to set

460
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: it up and a few hours to pack it crazy

461
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: and unless you are on site, you just don't realize

462
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 4: how quickly that happens.

463
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon for the entire F one presence to

464
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: be completely gone eight hours after the Grand Prix is finished,

465
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: like everyone's just disappeared, which is kind of crazy.

466
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: It's like a one night stand right.

467
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: Here, and then you're not and.

468
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: Then you're gone, just longing, just.

469
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 3: Just gone on the bedside table.

470
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 5: Miss me and I'm gone.

471
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: When do we go by boat? When do we go

472
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: by plane. Okay, when do we drive? When is it horseback?

473
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 5: No?

474
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 2: What what mode of transport are we using? And why

475
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: you can't go Vegas Abu Dhabi on a truck?

476
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 5: No you can't, Right, So it depends on how much

477
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 5: time you have in between certain events. Right. So the

478
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 5: kits that I talk about, those will move on boats

479
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 5: because you have several months before you need them, and

480
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 5: then once they get to Miami or Brazil or wherever

481
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 5: they're going, then they'll be transported on cars to the

482
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 5: next races from there. But things that would go on

483
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 5: a plane would be the cars themselves or things that

484
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 5: you need to get there immediately.

485
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: The air freight is normally the most valuable items, which

486
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: is normally like what is extremely sensitive? Yeah, it cannot

487
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 4: be replicated. It's one set only, and that goes air freight.

488
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 5: A lot of like the general equipment we'll call it carjacks, tables, chairs,

489
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 5: things like that will already be there because it'll be

490
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 5: on one of the kits. But obviously the cars need

491
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: to get there, so that will go on a plane

492
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 5: and other like immediate things that could be necessary that

493
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 5: you don't necessarily want to put on a kit several

494
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 5: months before that you're going to use at the actual

495
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 5: race that are either expensive like the cars or extra

496
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 5: engines or things like that will be transported via plane.

497
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 5: And the trucks are really just used for the European races,

498
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 5: so those are things that will transport everything from the

499
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 5: cars to the engines, to the tables and the chairs

500
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 5: and everything in between.

501
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: Right.

502
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 4: Of course, an influence is also the costs. Of course,

503
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: air freight is more expensive than sea fraight. So what

504
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: they're trying to do because of the cost cup is

505
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 4: they're trying to send as much as they can sea

506
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: freight because it's cheaper to send it sea freight than

507
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: air freight.

508
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: So at any given time, there are ships and planes

509
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 3: with f one cargo going around the world. Only imagine

510
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: plopping all of this up on a map is pretty insane.

511
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: They but for the flyaway races, they divide the cargo

512
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: into really important crucial equipment and then the stuff that

513
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: can go slow that we also have four five different

514
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: packs the same version of the same stuff.

515
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: Then it's going to land in a port and run

516
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: through customs.

517
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: Customs.

518
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I've like in my little comedy world, I

519
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: get hung up performing in Canada because I got to

520
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 2: go through their like tax department, you know, and then

521
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: it's like now I'm in the States. And then they

522
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: go to Australia and it's like this is just me

523
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: and I can only imagine it's insane.

524
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a single story where a race

525
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: couldn't start because the cargo didn't arrive. But there are

526
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: many stories of just like riots have broken out in

527
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: a country, or there's a canal that's been blocked because

528
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: lots of and so all the ships are being waited,

529
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: and at that point they will take a snap decision

530
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 3: and go, well, the cargo that we were sending to

531
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 3: another location, let's dock it, let's put it on a

532
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: plane and get it back here fast. And so you

533
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: have these insane decisions that come up those moments because

534
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: the world is what it is and certain things that

535
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: we can't control.

536
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this year a race was canceled because

537
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: of a flood, Right.

538
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: There's not a flood. Tire amphibious vehicles, those things are sweet.

539
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: There's your kids ever do those?

540
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 7: It's gonna turn on the propellor.

541
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna hold lord and we're gonna quaggle.

542
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 5: Lot it roll. I think one of the craziest things

543
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 5: to me is the motor homes at.

544
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: The European races, which makes sense if you've ever gone

545
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: camping versus taking a plane trip, you can take a

546
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: lot more with you. So those motor homes that you're

547
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: talking about, they aren't much bigger and is more to

548
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: build because they bring more at the European races.

549
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 5: And specifically Red Bulls. Red Bull is famous that they

550
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 5: bring their motor home to Monaco and they've stood it

551
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 5: in the bay, right, And what they do is they

552
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 5: literally bring it to the bay and they construct it.

553
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 5: It takes twenty five crew members thirty six hours to

554
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: assemble it and one day to take it down. They

555
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 5: put it on a barge and they bring it to Monaco, right,

556
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 5: they float it down the Italian Riviera, which I think

557
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 5: is just absolutely amazing, and it speaks to the lengths

558
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 5: that these teams will go to to make sure that

559
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: everything's set up. Because part of what we have to

560
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 5: remember here is that most of Formula one revolves around sponsorships, right,

561
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 5: certainly at the lower level teams, the majority of their

562
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 5: income is coming through sponsorships, and maybe a little bit

563
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: less called forty percent of their income is coming through

564
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: sponsorships at the high level teams, but these teams are

565
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: making you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in some

566
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 5: cases from sponsorships each year. So entertaining those sponsors in

567
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: places like the paddock club or in the motor homes

568
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: themselves is especially important to the income and the business

569
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: of these teams. So Red Bull certainly takes it seriously.

570
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 5: Mercedes Ferraris and a bunch of these teams take it

571
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: really seriously because they know that if people come to

572
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 5: the races, they have fun, in some cases, they're going

573
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 5: to spend more money with the team next year, or

574
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 5: it could sell a sponsorship in the future. And that's

575
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 5: a huge reason why Formula one kind of gets this

576
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: reputation for just being this luxurious, you know, sporting event

577
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: where there's champagne and there's caviare and there's lobster and

578
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: there's all these things. And I think part of the

579
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 5: reason why that's true in some cases is because they're

580
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 5: entertaining corporate partners that are paying tens of millions of

581
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 5: dollars annually to make sure that everything runs smoothly.

582
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: Yo, Hi, this is when you would play my stand

583
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: up my stand up comedy joke on my special about

584
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: packing for driving versus packing for flying.

585
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 7: When you fly somewhere, you really think about packing. You know,

586
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 7: you talk it out with each other. We stuff things

587
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 7: in the shoes. That's a good spot. But if you're

588
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 7: driving somewhere, Brillian, bring it. We're driving, brigand.

589
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: Honey. Should I bring the blender?

590
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: Yes?

591
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 7: I may want to make fresh tomato soup this weekend.

592
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: What about the treadmill? It's already packed. We're driving.

593
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 7: We're driving, person your see fill twelve of you ride?

594
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Does there happen to be I don't know a fun fact.

595
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: I feel like Mary Poppins going in my bag. Now,

596
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: give me a fun fact.

597
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: Give me a fun fact.

598
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: There's a rule now that states that when the team

599
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: crates are placed on the pit lane of any venue,

600
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: that's when they all arrives. Teams are not allowed to

601
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: access their team crates until every single team has received

602
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: all of their cargo.

603
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly.

604
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: Love this, like fence. Love this.

605
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: And the reason I think why every team is on

606
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: board with this is you just never know what could

607
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: happen to you, and if it could be you so

608
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty cool. It's both but it's also

609
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: a safety and security thing as well, that you can't

610
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: have one team upfloading stuff well and other team's not

611
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: doing anything, because then those people are probably hanging around

612
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: on the pit lane and all the pitwalk and they

613
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: shouldn't be there.

614
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: And I also love that F one with all of

615
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: its data and game strategy and logistics, they all just

616
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: agree like sometimes they fuck up your luggage, so we're

617
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: all just gonna wait, like even like they're there's so

618
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: in control of everything, and but they're still just like,

619
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: look as if at a fairness. I thinks I love

620
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: this rule.

621
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: And it's even if there's like two or three shipments,

622
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: like you wait until everyone, which I think is a

623
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: nice role. I do that now with my husband when

624
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: we both order something and we're both waiting for it,

625
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: we will open up our packages when we've both seen.

626
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: That, oh that's not what I did.

627
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: Won't be doing that.

628
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: We're at a point in my family where if your

629
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: food's ready, you eat it. You you know, but I'm

630
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm hoping we also change that eventually. But

631
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: with we have kids, two little kids, it's just like

632
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: you eat when you can eat.

633
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: We're hoping that everyone in F one is adults at

634
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: this point.

635
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: I would love it if we could hire an F

636
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: one logistician at our house, like one, because that would

637
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: help me manage my life tire as well to its

638
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: full capacity. Let's keep moving moving. One of the attributes

639
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: that I'm really enjoying this season, okay, of learning about

640
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: F one is this cooperative competitiveness. Tennis has this a lot,

641
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Like you end up having to practice oftentimes with someone

642
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: who might be your opponent because you have to and

643
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: both parties are like, we're both in this town or

644
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: country together, we need to practice. Or you split a

645
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 2: hotel room with someone that's in the draw. You might

646
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: play that person. But I'm really enjoying learning how F

647
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: one has some of that cooperation.

648
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I must be the same, and I imagine answer

649
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: this for me. They're practicing amongst themselves because there's no

650
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: one else that's better than the coming.

651
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: Right, you can only practice with so many people. I

652
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: like that, all right, So what's being moved? The cars?

653
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: Everything?

654
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: The wheels, does PERELLI take the wheels, the gloves.

655
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely everything you see and that is used during a

656
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: race weekend is most likely being transported.

657
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: Apart from the circuited cell. Yeah, that's the only thing

658
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: that that.

659
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: Sense because the circuit doesn't actually belong to Formula one.

660
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: It actually belongs to the promoters. So that's not going anywhere.

661
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Speaker 3: Even think about even like we talked about all the data,

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Speaker 3: there's data storage systems and data servers that are being

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Speaker 3: moved as well. There's cable that's being moved like that list.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy with a handcuff on a briefcase that's

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Speaker 2: got the hard drives.

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Speaker 3: Never met him. Oh you want a fun fact? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so want of fun fact doesn't involve a guy with

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Speaker 3: a briefcase and handcuffs, but it does involve a guy

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Speaker 3: called the f one tailor with a backpack. There is

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Speaker 3: one guy that walks up and down the paddock who

671
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Speaker 3: is sole job and only responsibility is to tailor anything

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Speaker 3: that any of the drivers need, whether it's their gloves,

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Speaker 3: the suit anything. There's a fantastic story that I was

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Speaker 3: told by one of the team's last see about Fernando Alonso.

675
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Speaker 3: The way they they work with very specific manufacturers and

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Speaker 3: very specific teams. The people who do the under garments,

677
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Speaker 3: the people who do the race suits and everything is

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Speaker 3: tailored to absolutely an inch of their lives. And the

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Speaker 3: person who had been doing Alonzo's gloves for many, many

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Speaker 3: years changed and apparently Alonzo when he tried on his gloves,

681
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Speaker 3: he was like, this doesn't feel right. What's happened? And

682
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Speaker 3: they said, oh, we've got to do it, and He's like,

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Speaker 3: I can feel it, and so I'm going to need

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Speaker 3: a few jass the changes. So there is there isn't

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Speaker 3: a guy with a briefcase, but there's a guy with

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Speaker 3: a backpack who's called the tailor, who gets called into

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Speaker 3: whenever any of the drivers need a bit of tailoring.

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Speaker 3: That's call job.

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Speaker 2: There's an a called tailor for these drivers.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: You know there's a guy in New York. Yeah that

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Speaker 2: you probably know this. YOHI Endzoltan. There's a guy in

693
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Speaker 2: New York who twenty four hour emergency phone will saw

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Speaker 2: your couch in half? Wait what then move it because

695
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Speaker 2: it won't fit in your apartment. In New York City,

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Speaker 2: people have a huge problem of their couches won't You

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Speaker 2: can get in the apartment, but you can't get in

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Speaker 2: the building or in the elevator. Called the couch doctor.

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Speaker 2: He'll saw your couch in half and then move it

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Speaker 2: upstairs for you and then reassemble it for you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I just had a situation with a puppy.

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Speaker 2: You'll saw the puppy and half.

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Speaker 3: Quickly give us the rest of that story.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean the point. I'm just gonna go right

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Speaker 1: to the point here. But if you guys need to

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Speaker 1: have a really good and I think you know, not cheap,

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Speaker 1: but like you know, you get your money's worth couch

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Speaker 1: cleaner yea, if anybody needs so, yeah, yeah it's not.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about my favorite part of logistics when it

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Speaker 2: comes to anything which involves large groups and travel. Carrots food, yes, close,

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Speaker 2: but yes, carrots. Like if you're if if Lance Stroll

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Speaker 2: loves his carrot and he's in Las Vegas and they're

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Speaker 2: going to Abu Dhabi, Like, is someone going grocery shopping

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Speaker 2: in Abu Dhabi? Is they bring it's just caviar? Sorry

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: but bad example, but catering food? Like, how is all

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Speaker 2: this happening? Someone's in charge of this, Someone is in

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Speaker 2: charge of the food.

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Speaker 3: You've actually absolutely there's someone in charge of the food.

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Speaker 3: And you've probably just named one of the few things

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Speaker 3: that doesn't really travel with the flyaway races, so catering

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Speaker 3: is mostly organized on site. Also, things like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: like the amount of people moving, like things like booking

723
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Speaker 3: hotel rooms, cars, even internet connectivities, all stuff that's generally

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Speaker 3: done on site. You know, they're not creating motor homes

725
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Speaker 3: for all of these people. They are maybe for the

726
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Speaker 3: drivers and the direct teams in European races, but in

727
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Speaker 3: flyaway races, this is all stuff that's left to what

728
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Speaker 3: happens when we land out.

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Speaker 2: But what about the like data cables.

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Speaker 3: Data cables I think is a mixture. I think the

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Speaker 3: teams have the cables and the connectivity that they need

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Speaker 3: for their own screens. But then, as with there anythinking

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Speaker 3: F one, there's the stuff that the f I needs

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Speaker 3: to govern that race. There's the stuff that Formula one

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Speaker 3: needs to put on the race and run f on

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Speaker 3: TV and all of that, and then it's all of

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Speaker 3: the stuff that every team needs.

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Speaker 2: It has to be perfect, it has to be perfect.

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Speaker 2: Mix CHAMPI slow like oh you know Vegas, their internet's

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Speaker 2: a little slow, Like what's the password? Like, it's got

741
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Speaker 2: to be perfect, it's got to be perfect.

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Speaker 4: There are days where you just can't keep up. You

743
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Speaker 4: just hate it because the stress is a lot, the

744
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: deadlines are just unbelievable. But when you see that it's

745
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Speaker 4: a team efforts. So when we all work together as

746
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Speaker 4: a team, which we just learn to understand each other well,

747
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Speaker 4: learn when is the right moment to ask something, to

748
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Speaker 4: do something, well, learn when it's the right moment. Maybe

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Speaker 4: just avoid any additional stress. So it becomes in a way,

750
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Speaker 4: a little family where you all know how to deal

751
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 4: with each other and you know how to make it work. So,

752
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: I mean you can actually see that by working as

753
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Speaker 4: a team, we make it happen. And regardless of how

754
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Speaker 4: much we may argue and fight in between, at the

755
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Speaker 4: end of the day, we have made it happen together.

756
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Speaker 4: So every single individual has done something to make it happen.

757
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Speaker 4: And that's what makes it rewarding at the end, because

758
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Speaker 4: on Sunday night, after every race, you can see that

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Speaker 4: your effort have made it happen.

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Speaker 2: So there's boats, Yeah, there's planes.

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Speaker 3: Explains six to seven planes.

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Speaker 2: There's trucks. None of this sounds good for the climate

763
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Speaker 2: or environment.

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Speaker 5: It's probably not. I think it's not up to me

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Speaker 5: to decide. Probably where Formula one is on their net

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Speaker 5: carbon neutral promise, but they've obviously made that and it's

767
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Speaker 5: something that I know that they're serious about. So we'll

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Speaker 5: leave it up to Liberty Media and Formula one to

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Speaker 5: give us some numbers in the near future about what

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Speaker 5: progress they've made on that, and hopefully we're at least

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Speaker 5: trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to come across as snooty because this

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Speaker 2: is a competitive sport. It's all gratuitous and you know,

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Speaker 2: we don't need to have ye so there is an

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Speaker 2: acceptability of like the stuff costs money and costs resources,

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Speaker 2: but f one it seems a little bit over the top,

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Speaker 2: like maybe we could do a better job.

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Speaker 3: These other times where I really miss Sebastian Vettel because

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Speaker 3: he was so good at talking about I absolutely realized

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Speaker 3: that I race in the sport that guzzles fuel as

781
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Speaker 3: we travel around the world, and at the same time

782
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Speaker 3: I'm campaigning to save the bees because we need to

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Speaker 3: save the environment. And he has such an.

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Speaker 2: Edgy campaign to save the bees.

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Speaker 3: He bought bees this year to Japan and built opponent's helmets.

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Speaker 1: They were on the track, they had.

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Speaker 3: These like little bee hives on the track. That they

788
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: were like painting. I don't know if the bees were

789
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Speaker 3: actually on track, but the beehives one track, but maybe

790
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: the bees were there too be meet up. But he's

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00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: so eloquent at talking about both things can be true,

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Speaker 3: like this is a sport that's constantly you know, we

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Speaker 3: have to do.

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Speaker 2: Better, because that could also be seen as like rich

795
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: pro athlete is so out of touch so with reality.

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Speaker 2: But you're saying he did it in the right way.

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Speaker 3: He did it and I these are not my words,

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00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: but one of the people who used to work very

799
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Speaker 3: closely with him explained it this way, like he is

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Speaker 3: middle class, white sis married man, and yet he always

801
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: campaigned for all of the right things. He always found time.

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Speaker 3: He's the last person who needed to campaign for LGTBQ rights,

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Speaker 3: He's the last person who needed to campaign for eco friendliness.

804
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: He's the last person who needed to campaign for you know,

805
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Speaker 3: equality and diversity, and yet he was always there and

806
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Speaker 3: he still is. I only say that as he's no

807
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: longer in the sport and left last year, But he

808
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: had such a good way of saying, I have to

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Speaker 3: be comfortable driving and being in this sport and also

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00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: doing good in the world. One doesn't take away from

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Speaker 3: the other as long as you're conscious and willing to

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Speaker 3: have And look, here's the amazing thing about him is

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Speaker 3: he had those conversations under the Aramcobana and got very

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Speaker 3: comfortable at doing that.

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Speaker 2: In the world of Sebastian Vettel, the B and LGBTQ

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Speaker 2: was b's.

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Speaker 3: So, Michael, final thoughts. Are you a logistics fan?

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Speaker 2: I am a logistics fan. I'm impressed and I don't

819
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: know if it's going to make me turn on a

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Speaker 2: race to know that all this school logistics is happening.

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Speaker 2: But to even just watch Su Paulo, Vegas Abu Dhabi,

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Speaker 2: it just blows your mind that it's the same teams

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Speaker 2: and the same drivers in such a different part of

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Speaker 2: the world. It blows my mind. And you know, there's

825
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Speaker 2: like a wife that's like, how's Abu Dhabi this week?

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Speaker 2: And he's like, it's actually I'm in Vegas. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, well, whatever, I don't give a.

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Speaker 3: Shit, you're not here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what you've helped me appreciate is when I'm watching

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Speaker 2: the race, there was just so many factors that made

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Speaker 2: this race happen, much like me getting here today, with you,

833
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Speaker 2: blessing you. You said you were blessed?

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Speaker 3: What was the existence?

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Speaker 2: What'd you say it was? We as we all feel blessed.

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Speaker 2: We all feel blessed watching F one race, knowing all

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Speaker 2: the things that needed to happen to make that happens.

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Speaker 2: Bless you.

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Speaker 1: This has been Choosing Sides F one, a production of

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Speaker 1: This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by Senior

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Speaker 1: Development and production manager at One on one Studios. At

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Speaker 3: So next week, I'm Choosing sides f one, the gossip.

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Speaker 3: What is Formula one without the literati? The gossip, the scandal,

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Speaker 3: the drama. It's going to be salacious watching and Hi inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: Let's get down there we go.

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Speaker 3: We will have the awkward celebrity moments, we will propagate

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Speaker 3: unsubstantiated rumors, and we will have a pandemic of luxury.

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Speaker 3: Watch feels cool.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait? Talk about that shit.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, oh dear,