WEBVTT - Conversations While Sober

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<v Speaker 1>What's up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck That with your

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<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got two Latto winners in close proximity to

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<v Speaker 2>each other, trying to simultaneously hunt the other one down.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think they won the same numbers? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they both have. They're from the same area,

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<v Speaker 2>same interests, same traditions, same shit. I think they walked

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<v Speaker 2>in and said, I want my lucky numbers. Here at

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<v Speaker 2>the six lucky numbers, and they both got the same

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<v Speaker 2>six numbers. I think it's more likely that than they

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<v Speaker 2>just randomly spun the same ones.

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<v Speaker 1>My thought is somebody told somebody to get their lottery numbers. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>play my numbers, and they went to play the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they felt they didn't go play the numbers, so

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<v Speaker 1>they went to plan themselves. So I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the winner of the both winners are out the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact household.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very likely. That makes it even more chaos. That's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a domestic grudge death match.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading this crazy story today and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lady who got a tip. She was in the

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<v Speaker 1>South and somebody tipped her ten million dollars. No, they

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<v Speaker 1>tipped her a lottery ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't tike a movie out of that with Nicholas Cage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. But she won the lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>She they tipped her a lottery ticket and the ticket

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<v Speaker 1>hit for ten million. Yeah, and she took the ten million.

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<v Speaker 1>And then first her co workers, her co people, was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we split the tips, we split the tips, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to see her and didn't work. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the person who actually gave her the ticket. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they was joking. She like, well, if I hit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll buy you a truck or either. He said to

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<v Speaker 1>her when he tipped her the ticket. If you hit,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta buy me a truck, and she was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So he tried to sue her. Wow. He tried to

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<v Speaker 1>sue her and it didn't work. And then the husband

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped her, who had just got a fresh divorce, kidnapped

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<v Speaker 1>her to try to get it, and she ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting a gun and shooting a husband. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an that's one too. That's that's a more interesting

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<v Speaker 2>movie because something like that happened in the movie, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was in like New York at a diner and

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<v Speaker 2>some lady won off of a tipped ticket or some nonsense,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, it was just kind of like rom come,

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<v Speaker 2>but that that that hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>No rom com. No, this is the real deal. Read.

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<v Speaker 1>Between reading that and living today, I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, like, I don't know how I do this

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<v Speaker 1>life sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I find it a little unsettling.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to think to myself, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how everybody else is drinking and smoking weed and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to think everybody else is crazy. But as

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<v Speaker 1>I get older, I'm starting to believe I'm the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker for doing this life sober.

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<v Speaker 2>What's in the red cup?

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<v Speaker 1>Then water?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, yeah, No, I think that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that you're sober for being or you're crazy for being

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<v Speaker 2>the sober one. I think crazy lends itself to you

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<v Speaker 2>being the sober one.

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<v Speaker 1>Elaborate, elaborate, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to be crazy to want to

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<v Speaker 2>soak it all in and make sure you don't miss anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you feel everything, you see everything, to always be

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<v Speaker 1>aware and conscious. It's crazy, like everything and I think

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<v Speaker 1>things that other people use to get by, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the things that other people use to get by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, with weed or alcohol or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I get it now, I really fucking get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was talking ahead about it earlier and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, here's it's like what it got to be arrogant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why would you think it's arrogance that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't drink or smoke like that. He's like, well, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we believe we could deal with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I don't think I ever thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. I just thought about it in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that, you know, he referencedeeing people throwing up on

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<v Speaker 1>a curve. I was like, well, I've seen people be

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<v Speaker 1>buzz and I wouldn't go to the exaggeration. I'm worried

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<v Speaker 1>about throwing up as much as as much as ah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>just poisoning myself, throwing off my equilibrium at all for

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<v Speaker 1>any reason. I get that. So that that became the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing, Like I just never thought about it, like

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<v Speaker 1>and then every time it costs no benefit proposition, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get the benefit. Like to me, these are normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like most people talk about normal functions, achieving normal

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<v Speaker 1>functions through assistance, right, They'll be like, or I want

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<v Speaker 1>to relax. I'm like relax or you know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you meet a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll meet a girl and she's not trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>some pussy, but she's at the board drinking, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, why are you lowering your

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<v Speaker 1>inhibitions if your goal is not to have lowered inhibitions?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it gets crazier and crazier every time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. I don't know personally, I mean, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess like through time, people who drink like the cope

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<v Speaker 2>and shit like that. Seems like I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of more people who smoke weed to cope.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've always equated it, like I don't drink that

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<v Speaker 2>much anymore, like in frequency or volume. But there's people

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<v Speaker 2>I know that like through their day, they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>got to hit the when they get up before work,

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<v Speaker 2>on a break at work, lunch, after work, before they

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<v Speaker 2>go to bed. It's like five times. Like if I

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<v Speaker 2>had a cocktail five times a day, every single fucking day,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd walk into an intervention at some point, like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's kind of like my my weed curses,

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<v Speaker 2>like like that's a lot, you know, like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>make it three four hours. You just go to work

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<v Speaker 2>and send in a cubicle.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you start drinking?

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<v Speaker 2>My best friend growing up was the youngest of like

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<v Speaker 2>four so and by by a margin, he was what

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<v Speaker 2>some might call a change of life baby, others might

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<v Speaker 2>call an accident. So his older brothers that he looked

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<v Speaker 2>up to a lot, like when he was younger, they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, like we were in grade school, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like in college doing the fraternity thing or whatever else.

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<v Speaker 2>Some the time we were in high school, they were

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<v Speaker 2>in there like I don't know, fucking mid late twenties whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>They're out and going to bars when I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of junk whatever. So I started drinking with him one

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<v Speaker 2>time on a vacation. I went on a vacation with

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<v Speaker 2>his family once, and I didn't think a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point in time in high school, around in

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<v Speaker 2>eleventh grade. I was from about the eleventh grade through

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<v Speaker 2>at the time I was like twenty to twenty, I

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<v Speaker 2>drank a lot. Like seventeen to twenty, I drank a

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<v Speaker 2>lot twenty one to twenty three, I drank less, but

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<v Speaker 2>there were still some frequent, like gargantuan consumption moments, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, I really you know, if I get drunk drunk,

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<v Speaker 2>it might be once a year maybe, And it just

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<v Speaker 2>happened randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>So so your partner turn you on, hold up, no seilings,

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<v Speaker 1>g L my man Peter in the house. So your

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<v Speaker 1>partner introduce you to drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. It wasn't like I hadn't heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but I'm saying, but the first time I drank,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It was a beer, just a beer. Remember what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of beer? But uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So, what did you start drinking after that?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever we had after that? I didn't start really discerning

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of alcohol until I had to become responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for getting it myself. Then I it just it went

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<v Speaker 2>from whatever got handed to me to well, now since

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<v Speaker 2>I have to make the decision, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, So, how the fuck did you start drinking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot between seventeen and twenty and nobody noticed?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if nobody noticed, but like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean, like.

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<v Speaker 1>How was you going home drinking a lot? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>was you going home your your mom and dad, sister,

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<v Speaker 1>how you going home if you're drinking a lot? Younger

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<v Speaker 1>people can handle liquor better.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they bounced back faster. Hangover is not a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal when you're younger, handle it better. No, But I've

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<v Speaker 2>I only got caught coming home drunk once, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was so stupid because I think my parents didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to drink and drive, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the time I didn't, but a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>time I did too, So it depended.

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<v Speaker 1>On I quite a lot of the times you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, yeah, meaning it was a mixed bag. But the

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<v Speaker 2>nights when I didn't, I would still drive and leave

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<v Speaker 2>the house, but I would drive around the corner and

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<v Speaker 2>get my friend's car. So the time that I got

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<v Speaker 2>caught coming home driving drunk, I had driven one hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I just came around a corner like this, stopped for

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<v Speaker 2>like the other side of the neighbor's house.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that point, why the fuck was you even

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<v Speaker 1>driving to move.

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<v Speaker 2>The car back so it looked like I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed to go out and drink like that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was.

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<v Speaker 1>That Imagine you seventeen to twenty You for sure wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be old of to go out and drink like that, folks. No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>So Also they had a house with two stories, so

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<v Speaker 2>like my bedroom had like a balcony thing, so I

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<v Speaker 2>could get out and come back in through there. That

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<v Speaker 2>happened a lot too.

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<v Speaker 1>The fuck you get out through the balcony, fucking spider

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<v Speaker 1>man up the dam? You ever climbed up drunk?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, yeah, you're a fail. No close, but no, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck was you climbing to climb up to the balcony?

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<v Speaker 1>You got a ladder out there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's funny. They had a little retaining wall kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing by like the pool filter shit, So I

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<v Speaker 2>could hop up onto that and jump from that and

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<v Speaker 2>catch that and pull myself up onto the next thing

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<v Speaker 2>and then just go over the rail and walk in

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<v Speaker 2>the door.

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<v Speaker 1>White life is just white life is fucking hella, like

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<v Speaker 1>how most met like general pot people feel about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in the ghetto. That's how I feel about

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you hear about white life, I mean not

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<v Speaker 1>white life like ghetto, because I get how trailer trash

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<v Speaker 1>white life can go, but regular and yeah, like saved

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<v Speaker 1>by the bell, white life, Kelly Zach and Slater white life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like that's not real to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of bilateral disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the first time I started hanging out in

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<v Speaker 1>Lakewood and you start meaning like go to people house.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one of my child friends, he became a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer. He was a little older than us. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I went to our teaching my freshman year in Lakewood,

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<v Speaker 1>and they used to have a park across the street

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<v Speaker 1>called Palm's Park, and it was cool. I was super

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<v Speaker 1>good at karams because obviously from the ghetto, they got carams.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember I used to have so many like

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<v Speaker 1>white friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to Teacher High School for year. One year, my

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<v Speaker 2>friends older sister they moved. They were from South Central

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<v Speaker 2>and that his mom moved them down to our school district.

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<v Speaker 2>But his older sister went to ar Teaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the ABC school district. I had got a's and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had thirty six tarties. So they pulled my permit,

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<v Speaker 1>send my eyes right back to Compton, like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going this ain't happening, And my mom ended up giving

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<v Speaker 1>me a pair of my high school because they still had,

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't let me go to Compton Lock Jeordan, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go to the schools that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we grew up because it's all your friends go there.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't have ap class the school.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends on if you are your mom's

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<v Speaker 2>your dad's, Like what school would have been your school?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at my mom, I was Conter High that was

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<v Speaker 1>Leterly like four minutes away. At my dad house, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have probably been to ten, which that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been weird. Yeah, it would have been ten to ten

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<v Speaker 1>or Locked or maybe lynn Will because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their older homies went to lynd Wood too, that was close.

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<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, because don't understand like how that school district

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<v Speaker 2>iSport was because obviously Compton unified its own thing. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on the LA side, you know. So you got a

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<v Speaker 2>USD address.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, right, because you so in wats right, you got

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan right by the Jordan Downs. You got Locked. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Centennial because Centennial's is in Los Angeles too. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it seemed like it's in Comptant, but it

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<v Speaker 1>gets freaking when you get over Well, I think no,

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<v Speaker 1>Centennial is in Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>Still yeah, I swear that it is, But.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been one of those schools. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go to those schools because that's where everybody

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<v Speaker 1>you know went to school. Yeah, yeah, Centennia was at Compton,

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<v Speaker 1>so soon as you cross over, that was a good though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would have been one of those schools, the Mingas.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe my mom wasn't going for that. They had no

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<v Speaker 1>AP classes. She was like that ship out the Mingas.

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<v Speaker 1>She none of those schools had AP classes. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no chance she was letting me go to school without

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<v Speaker 1>being in an advanced placement. That just wasn't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I used to notice that, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to hang around that kind of environment

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<v Speaker 1>for about a good months and just really chilling, just

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<v Speaker 1>tripping off of it. And that's how I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was real because before that, you know Compton and watching

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<v Speaker 1>you think Comptonent watches the whole world like everywhere is

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Some people don't have money, some people on drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to Lakewood, ain't nobody pushing no damn baskets?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? When you and watching content,

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<v Speaker 1>people pushing baskets, assembling all kinds of things that they

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<v Speaker 1>could sell to try to buy some rocks like that

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<v Speaker 1>was normal. I think about a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that was normal at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to ask, sure, because the the language choice

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<v Speaker 2>was so particular. Sure, you said assembling all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of product would a person purchased for money

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<v Speaker 2>that had been assembled by a crackhead? What would be

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<v Speaker 2>something that they might assemble.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm saying as symble, I mean gathering, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>some people would be taking like people would be pushing grows.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to still the grocery baskets, sure, right from

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store and be pushing them around as simp

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<v Speaker 1>like gathering things to sell. You got it. So it

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<v Speaker 1>could be something like cans, bottles. Some people would get TVs.

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<v Speaker 1>People would do that time. They was the only flockers.

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<v Speaker 1>Crackheads was the only flockers. It was only people breaking

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<v Speaker 1>in people houses. Sometimes you see people with TVs radios,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times that shit to be working,

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<v Speaker 1>like they knew the difference between junk and things that

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<v Speaker 1>people bought. Sure, Sure, so I used to look at

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<v Speaker 1>them people crazy, But I'm starting to really think that

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<v Speaker 1>I must be crazy. Because I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this world sober, Like Chuck Game is posting

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<v Speaker 1>all these pictures of uh, what's going on and over

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<v Speaker 1>there in Israel?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's people posting babies being blown up and

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<v Speaker 1>women dead, And I was just thinking to myself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how am I sober looking at all this shit?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of scope, I suppose. I mean, it's tragic,

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<v Speaker 2>is a hell, but I've never I don't know as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like the world me personally, I never blinked.

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<v Speaker 1>M I don't think I blink. I think I see

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<v Speaker 1>it all. But it's also why like I'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>my Donnie Hathaway where I'd be like, eah, living ain't

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<v Speaker 1>what it cracked up to be, Like, like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>huge faith in humanity, but that's probably a big problem too.

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe in humanity, and that probably is like a

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<v Speaker 1>flaw maybe.

0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean humanity cuts both ways. Humanity makes creates enormous problems,

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<v Speaker 2>and humanity solves enormous problems.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's the biggest problem they ever solve? You

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<v Speaker 1>feel humanity?

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<v Speaker 2>Humanity? Well, I mean the almost obvious one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like they created a humanity created a clusterfuck of World

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<v Speaker 2>War two. It also solved the same problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what's the what do you mean you solve

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<v Speaker 1>which problem? I think humanity don't do shit but cause problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think humanity has done one good thing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. I would disagree with that, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? I think humanity just creates problems and then

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<v Speaker 1>solve the problems that they create, and then the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that they solve creates even more problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the default setting is a problem. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to go back and back and back

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<v Speaker 2>and back in time, whether the human life expectancy probably

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five thirty years, you will die in all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of different ways we were supposed to. That's probably true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's it's like every innovation that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's helped human beings. Human beings probably worse for the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. I think there's the person.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is fine. The Earth's equilibrium is pretty fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But like.

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<v Speaker 2>The abundant, like abundance breeds abundance, and abundance breeds time.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same ecosystem of the human mind that was

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<v Speaker 2>able to use spare time to invent a light bulb,

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<v Speaker 2>was able to use spare time to devise eugenics, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>time to think. It's all in the mind of the thinker.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day I'll be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Because, yeah, that disappointing types, but I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>ever wasn't a disappointing time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also true, you know what I mean, Like, how

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<v Speaker 1>could a place like Watts in a place like Newport

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<v Speaker 1>Beach exists at the same time. That gotta be like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking flaw in a place like bell Layer in

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<v Speaker 1>a place like Compton can exist at the same time. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>think about that bell Layer and Compton, then motherfuckers is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles from each other. I think. Let me look

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<v Speaker 1>it up, gul Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how far is Central Park West or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the hell from Harlem? I mean, it'sn't like Park Avenue

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<v Speaker 2>on one side of Central Park West or I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>one side of Central Park and then like Harlem is

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<v Speaker 2>like basically the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Compton to bell Layer is nineteen miles.

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<v Speaker 2>A little more. Number of guests had about fourteen, But.

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<v Speaker 1>How the fuck can somebody have entirely too much and

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<v Speaker 1>then these people have entirely not enough. That gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>like the greatest, Like that's just crap. It's nineteen miles

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<v Speaker 1>peat it is how could you? How could you have

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<v Speaker 1>that much? And then somebody this close could not have

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<v Speaker 1>nearly enough and you exist peacefully.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the last part is kind of the uh, the kicker,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but you know resources come buy an awful lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like think about that. There's a house in bell Layer

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<v Speaker 1>for sale right now. Let me look at this. Was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a house in bell Layer for sale right

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<v Speaker 1>It came up in my email and there's a house

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<v Speaker 1>in bell Layer. Oh thin.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw something about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like some kind of crazy means like a

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<v Speaker 1>nine figure Yeah, it was like one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine million dollars a twelve bedroom, seventeen bath, two acre

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<v Speaker 1>house and bell Layer. The address is twelve hundred Bell Layer, rolled,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, Sky nine zero zero seven seven. The house

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<v Speaker 1>cousin is one hundred and forty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I really don't understand about that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of surplus bathrooms in that home.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they don't want to share the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I never got that evil.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand Okay, we're gonna have twelve bedrooms and then

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<v Speaker 2>twelve bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Five teams. Yeah, I get thirteen guess bathroom? You want

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<v Speaker 1>people in Yo bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got five or six extra bathrooms. It's as if

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<v Speaker 2>they're serving laxative in there. And you better have a

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>bathroom close enough to in case, you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go down to the hall too far to

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<v Speaker 2>the next bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what that was about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what's going on there?

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking and this is right here, and they

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>be talking shit about these people who running in these

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<v Speaker 1>stores taking shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Five one hundred thousand is about what it's about the

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<v Speaker 2>price of a house in Compton.

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<v Speaker 1>Three to five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so if we if we called it five, that's

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eighty houses in Compton for that guy's house.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be pretty cool. If I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>roll up, roll up a buck forty on a property acquisition,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be down to buy two hundred and eighty house.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't Compton? They were all, if they were all attached,

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<v Speaker 2>they all.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like the down payment because it's twenty eight

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>MILLI you know, the dawn payment is twenty eight minutes

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<v Speaker 1>for yeah, twenty eight million, twenty percent, and the monthly

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<v Speaker 1>payment is one million dollars nine hundred and eighteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>a month. Yeah, I mean I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 1>even findance that for thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know at this interest rates like this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably could.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you even want to finance that at that point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six was at one hundred, was at twelve million

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<v Speaker 1>a year, one twenty three six, God damn three g

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you've been in the house four hundred million dollars. Yeah. Yeah,

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 1>that type of shit make me want to drink. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that much house is fifteen miles away from

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto. It depends on which ghetto because it probably

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<v Speaker 1>could be like if you want the Hoovers, I'm probably at.

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<v Speaker 2>It from the Jays about eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Jay's is almost like a science project.

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<v Speaker 2>How far has it been from the Harlems? About nine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's close. The Jazz is different because the Jays is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a like a when I sold those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know that's it's gonna be over.

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to tell Malcolm. I was like, what

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 2>you need to do, because he was all like, I

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:25.959
<v Speaker 2>gotta turn in the jungles. I was like you can

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>complaining about they suck for thirty years. He should be happy.

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>But like I was, like, go get Potomac made a

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<v Speaker 2>historical landmark site. I mean it was the culmination scene

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>of what was that? Then? That the first oscar to

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>a black actor in a non supporting role. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>just go over the city hall and get it the

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 2>cleared the historical monument. They'll do it in two seconds.

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And then what does that do?

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't knock it down. The rest of it they

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>probably knocked down, but you can at least hold down

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the cold set.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. Somebody asked me that I think gentrification

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>was bad. They was like, oh, Gusins, you don't think

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>it's better. I'm thinking to myself, like I get it right, Like,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's what's been That's what's happening right, These places

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>are being gentrified. But it's like if you're not, how

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is it somebody could have enough fucking money to come

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>over here and buy shit, but the people who live

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>here don't have enough money to buy shit. You know

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, how do you have that much

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>money to where all these stray people can come and

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>move into community? And they got enough money to afford it,

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>but the people right there can't afford it. And what

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>people would like me to believe is that, like a

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>drunk mind would like me to believe that, oh, they

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just didn't do anything with their life. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the majority of the population bro as sheit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's easy to lead sheep any direction you want

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>them to go.

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<v Speaker 2>The American perspective on wealth disparity is perceived upside down.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like looking at a forest right from eye level

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>to the top I leveled to the top of what

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<v Speaker 2>of the of the trees in the forest? Soy feet

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>up in the ear? Yeah, like you.

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<v Speaker 1>If the trees are fifty feet, if the.

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Tree is fifty feet the average three fifty feet, you're

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<v Speaker 2>like forty sixty feet. You can see the tops of them, sure,

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>but you see that they're not the same tops. I

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>think people will look at it like who came around

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<v Speaker 2>and knocked the tops off of all those trees that

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<v Speaker 2>aren't as tall as that one? And the perception really

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>is more accurately, what caused that tree to grow taller

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>than that one?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think that's the perception from who?

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the current. Like that's the times perception

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>of in America of wealthy spirity, Like like the culture

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>now looks at it as though all the trees were

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>sixty feet and then someone came and hacked the tops

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<v Speaker 2>off of like ninety percent of them down to forty

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>five feet. Reality is the other ones grew taller.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know they might even start it taller.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Trees don't start taller, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends, like even coming into America, it's a different

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>set of trees. Like right, it's like slavery is not

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>even two hundred years old, right, Like it's not that old. Right,

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>this is not that old. And you like, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think, I don't even want to have a conversation.

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I hate about Like I get the concept of the

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>wealth disparity, wealth gap, That's not what I'm talking about.

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about simple things like the American dreams that

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we sold, I mean American dream that we sold out right,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>which was like a place like Compton. Well, I know,

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like the people crazy and they so a place

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<v Speaker 1>like Compton or a place like let's say like Herssey,

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania where John his name is John Hershey. They made

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<v Speaker 1>Hershey company. I think it's name is John Hershey. Hershey.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:34.479
<v Speaker 2>So, just out of curiosity, I had noticed at at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of one of the famous Zapp and Roger songs,

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about chocolate cities, and he didn't mention

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Hershey Pennsylvania. Why is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no fucking idea. I don't think they're talking

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>about the same chocolate.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Milton Hershey, you might be right, Milton Hershey. Right.

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>So Milton Hershey created the town that we know. It's Hershey, Pennsylvania, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And this was kind of the traditional American idea. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a great idea that he built factory and then

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>he wanted people to come work, and he had people

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>come work, and instead of having him drive miles away,

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he built the town to support you know, he built

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the town to master the economy right where people could

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>move into these houses and shot play and work there.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>That's Compton. Was the same thing. Like if you look

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>down Alameda on Compton and Compton right, all these factories

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>right now, I was talking to a politician. Hey, what

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>she was telling me that it was grandfathered in that

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I think forty to fifty percent of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>worked at these factories were supposed to live in these houses.

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was the simplistic idea of America.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>And it was a brilliant idea. Right you people used

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to walk to work, you know what I mean? And

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>what I think happened specifically in canter right as black

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>people started to move to Compton out. It's probably a

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>really crazy idea that they started moving there. It's something

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that we don't know about because they moved there and grow,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, and then white folks start moving out, right,

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner families in the world start moving out.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, they had to move out for the black people

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>to move in because the vacancies had to be created.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but I think they were also building at that time.

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't know.

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I think so well, And this is the thing it

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>because like I only said it because like we've talked

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>about a hundred times. Sure, my grandparents lived in all

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>those same houses. They ain't built nothing new.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But then what is older than Compton?

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like not by a lot.

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And really what.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Late sixties, early late fifties, early sixties was when black

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>people start to come to South California.

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they had been around so remember they couldn't

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't remember, they couldn't really be around, right, because

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they did have a little pockets right the place in Venice.

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>What's that dog down?

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those old big apartments.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Like one of the oldest places black people moved. So

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>black people came to southern California before that, but I

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think they could get in the the aries like

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>they was in Dogtown.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>They were in it was the fifties. That's when the fifties.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>When in the fifties, And that's why like the difference between.

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Well the projects was wasn't first for remember that was

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>for the war people. No Jordan Downzelea.

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Most of the expansions of products was for black people,

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and black people were good a paper. This is a

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>little story people. I don't think know about La Sure

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>below the pueblos is that's black projects is below all

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the ones what do they call it? The I thought

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>they called it also like dog Town or something like that.

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>The projects by Chinatown and and then like Big Hazard

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and the Strata courts and all those ones th was

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>are on Mexican Yeah, as I looked, I mean I

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>at least for what I read the they built all

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>those ones up there and didn't allow black people to

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>apply because apparently black people were very good at paperwork

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 2>compared to Mexicans.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>So the Jordan Downs first open in May nineteen forty four.

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>The complex was originally developed as a semi permanent housing

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for war workers during World War Two. In the early

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties, Hacla Damn that still around converted it to

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>public housing. It was among the last of the public

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>housing projects and was to be open for that purpose.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>It opened in nineteen fifty five, shortly after new Mayor

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Norris Pulsen ended all new public housing in the city. Development,

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>like others in the area, became partially integrated. However, its

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>tendency its Tennessee rapidly became majority black, approaching one hundred

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>percent by the mid nineteen sixties. This rapid change occurred

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>for a number of reasons. Many of the veterans who

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>still lived in the projects in the early nineteen fifties

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>moved out as they were able to purchase homes. Blacks

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>still migrating west after the war ended gravitated excuse me,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Blacks still migrating west after the war gravitated towards areas

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>like Watts that already had sizeable back populations. In addition,

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>at least in the first decade of the post war period,

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>restrictive covenants helped channel recent migrants into Watts and away

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>from nearby suburban cities such as Compton.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure yeah so no, No, what I think a lot

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 2>of the real initial challenges for black people in LA

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>was the fact that they, bluntly speaking, they just got

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>there later.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Yea.

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Like the economic explosion that happened on the West coast,

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>like from like nineteen forty three or four, whenever the

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 2>Pacific theater machine really really ramped up, they weren't there yet. Sure,

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>So by the time that wave crested and crashed, then

0:35:59.320 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>they got there.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's there's a big difference. And that's a huge

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>difference in twenty years.

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Sure, especially around that time. But the Mexicans were

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>here then before then, yea, because the first was crazy

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is the first street gang in LA that's credited Obviously

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>that's not white people would be white fence Okay, Yeah,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>they've been around.

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Since like the thirties, and it was fun. I had

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>to look it up too, because I was such a square.

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>But when you get off of the one on one

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>at Normandy because to me, fourteen means up north. Sure,

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.479
<v Speaker 2>I kept seeing C fourteen, C fourteen all over the place.

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Is this I'm like, because you can go to the

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.919
<v Speaker 2>north and see thirteens. You don't come to the south

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 2>fourteen that's.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Not happening now once you pass Fresh No, that ain't.

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was like, I know that is not

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>what I am seeing. So I google what's CE fourteen

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>as a KYA fourteen and you know under like you

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 2>know where the blue line turns? Sure above Washington. Apparently

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 2>that fourteenth Street was one of the was all like

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 2>one of the very also original gangs like zoot Suit

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 2>during gang and they the city was so vexed by

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the Fourteenth Street Gang that they cleared them out and

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>rezoned their neighborhood industrial so that they couldn't live there.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 2>So KAYE fourteen became a nomadic gang, but they retained

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 2>the name.

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. I know a couple of those most

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>gangs is gonna be like that in twenty years, I mean,

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>if they're still gangs. But I guess the point I

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>was making is I mean, even the whole concept of

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the wealth gap is it's just different. Man, if you

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>you have to really just believe that they're still a

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>letble of you know what I mean, Like you niggas

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>ain't finna get no money. It's just kind of how

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>to go and even certain things because I agree, like

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>as Americans started selling the country out as a whole,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>oh right, to you know, they didn't want to build

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 1>everything no more they want to People got greedier. I mean,

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's the correct way to put it,

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but to me, that's what it's about. People got greedier

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 1>right where they started building everything overseas for cheaper.

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>They didn't get greater. They got lazier. And I don't

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>mean the workers, I mean the leaders. Sure you got

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>to a point where you had a generation of innovators

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that created an explosion of growth in the US and constum.

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Those were not people who got MBA's at Ivy League schools,

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>That's true, they were really they were replaced not by

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>innovators but by managers. What do managers know how to do?

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Very little? They know how to do one thing, cut cost.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to come up with a new idea.

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to streamline this better. What can

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>we do cut cost We gotta our projections for next

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>year got to be better than they were for last year.

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>We can't make any more profit unless we cut costs,

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>because we can't put out a product that is innovative

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>enough to justify raising the price. We got to hold

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 2>the price, compete against that guy and cut costs. What's

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 2>that guy doing the same old dumb ass shit we're doing.

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>He's cutting costs. So we got to cut cost so

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>we can have our margin and not get priced out

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>of the marketplace by that guy and have no new ideas.

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 2>There's no innovation, no growth, no nothing. All they can

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>do is figure out a way to get it done

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 2>cheap or elsewhere. That's a huge problem in the US economy.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>So Ray crockm Ray Kroc. Who's Ray Krock, guy who

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 1>took over mcdonnald's from Ray mac Ray and Mac when

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Ray is Richard and Maurice makes.

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>That would have been the guy who has played in

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that movie by Michael Keaton. Yes, no, he was an innovator.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck did he innovate? He wasn't no fucking innovator.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>He was a fucking manager. He literally cut all the

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>costs He's reason why all the burgers tastes like shit.

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>He's the reason why the fucking drink is made out

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of powdered milkshake. He's the reason that quality goes down

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the drain.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, the quality went down the drain, but the business

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>growth didn't grow down the drain. He streamlined the system,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and he system to the streamlined. He didn't out, he

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't say, he didn't walk into a bunch of He

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.479
<v Speaker 2>didn't find a mature entity, a mature thing and start

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 2>taking people out of it.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course it did. He took the owners who understood

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>quality and what made the business thrive. Right, he understood

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the quality of the business was so high that he

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>could shrink it down further and further to allow it

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to spread.

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Like, but but it did though, So what like what

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>how many people did McDonald's employ when he got there

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 2>versus when he left?

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it also depends on like like right, it's like.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 2>Like in comparison to Ford during the time when McDonald's

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 2>employed one hundred x in a growth curve. Oh sure

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm saying, I'm saying I'm sorry a hundreds

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>said hundred times. I'minking I'm talking about the first time,

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>so I'm saying go ahead. I'm saying it wasn't as many,

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, he took it ahead.

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so more locations, more employees, more.

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Or whatever at the expensive quality.

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Though sure Ford also with the expensive quality reduce their

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 2>employment in America.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, but I think it's it's kind of the

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>same thing. I understand the concept of employment in America,

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what we're talking about, right, somebody

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>like Ford, So you feel like that's the responsible. Some

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>asshole just came in like this is how we're gonna

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>maximize profit.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. I mean it's rampant throughout all sorts

0:41:58.880 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>of verticals of commerce.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And you think this is because uh the Ford, Henry

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Ford was like he was pretty much done and this

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is somebody taking over. Yeah, because like what happened to

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>make because what's happening with in and Out could be

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>happening with McDonald's. But because again they went after kind

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of the global look at the expense of having something

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that benefit human beings to it. I don't want to

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>be You're right, I can't be too hasty because it

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>does employ American people and people around the world. But

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the problem. I think when we keep

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>exchanging quality right for the sake of growth, and I

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>think that's still triggered by greed.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it depends on the kind of growth.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think what you know, because by the saying standard,

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like the person who made the move for four could

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>be considered a global hero, right because they created more

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>opportunities in China, created more opportunities in Mexico and everywhere

0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>else except America.

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>We brought more people out of poverty in China than

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>our breathing air in America.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 2>That happened, for sure, you know. So, yeah, it all

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 2>does depend to scale, you know. And I was talking

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>about the other day with somebody, like, if you were

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 2>to say the square this average square footage of an

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 2>average house and an average town and an average income,

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the triangulate all the averages you can find on that

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>house in nineteen fifty eight, you know, the arrow and everything.

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Everybody had everything. Whatever the fuck there was family of

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>four or five, you know, whatever it was with one

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>small house and one car and one TV. Now that

0:43:55.560 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>experience is three cars, fives, four cell phones, internet cable,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>all this sudden shit TV was freeze the radio. I

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>mean there's like, I don't know what, what's what's the

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>note on on whatever the fuck house on a three

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred fifty thousand dollars house in Indianapolis.

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Shit, that's probably a mansion in Indianapolis. I mean the

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>note is probably I don't know, twenty eight six twenty six.

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>We did right there about twenty six twenty seven.

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Something like that. I mean, if you start adding in

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>more cars and cell phones and internet and cable and

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever the fuck else, that those numbers almost match.

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, what are you saying?

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, there's two things happening simultaneously.

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>You have.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:57.479
<v Speaker 2>An increase in the standard expectation that has.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 1>A standard of existent living.

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 2>The standard of living expectation has outpaced like on you

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 2>in the median side has has outpaced median income by

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot, Like the price I just saw a price

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>breakdown by an economist of like the time price to

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 2>buy a house now, I mean the amount of hours

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>of work that you could buy at a again median

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>income for median house. The house has grown, So you're

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 2>getting a better, bigger house for less hours work today

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>than was required to do so in like nineteen sixty

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.320
<v Speaker 2>right from a price per square foot standpoint.

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, even though it's a piece of shit house.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only one, the new one is, the old

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 2>one is. But the piece of shit built in twenty

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty one is better than a piece of shit built

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty one.

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm I'm an handle that one. But that's yeah.

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean you go look because the house built nineteen

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>sixty one's on Pyruin Central. Those houses knocked down, you

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:00.879
<v Speaker 2>tip mo if you hit them hard enough.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, there's some pretty ship The moths are some

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>ship ones right there. They built them upfuers out of brick.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh they didn't bring Those houses are built out of

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 2>dry wall. And as best us, you die a living

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>in one of those houses.

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a push. Go ahead.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, the difference is also everything I said before.

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>The regular costs to do everything else are three hundred

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 2>a month for your family's cell phone bills, even seven

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 2>eight USand dollars for a month.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a push though, because you're saying without the electives

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of life, the extra then it said, would be livable.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Fuck no, let me ask this, okay, because okay, let's

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to that same house. Let's let's go

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to a house in Indianapolis right now, where would there

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>even be a mass place to work to earn twenty

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred dollars a month.

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>A month is nothing, that's thirty thousand dollars a year.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That's something like where the fuck are you gonna get

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand? McDonald's barely pay thirty thousand dollars a year.

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Do it even pay thirty thousand dollars a year? What

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>is McDonald's minum wage? Fifteen dollars an hour?

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen times forty.

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Six hundred, six hundred, twelve hundred. What you bringing on

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a fifty Everybody in the house got to work to

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>pay that bill. That's shit crazy, Like okay, right, if

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>it's fifteen dollars times forty, that's six hundred times two

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to twenty.

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's but you're mismatching. Now, that's like a median

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 2>house in the area versus the most the one percentile income.

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Your median income is like fifty.

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, median income is fifty. Average income is.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Fifty to a median house to match the meeting, but.

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Where is the median income fifty thousand dollars at who

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.959
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is making fit. And this is what I'm saying,

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 1>back to the original point that I'm saying, like there

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is nowhere to work in it. Okay, think about how

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>few jobs is in the community, right, Like, I know

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you've been around a little bit, you know what's up.

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.959
<v Speaker 1>The jobs to me that make that kind of money

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 1>are the jobs that are not there anymore. I mean, right, So,

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't go to school, you didn't go to college, right,

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Lord knows if you could afford college. But if you

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to college, how the fuck do you make

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:27.839
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars a year? Sixty thousand dollars a year.

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Trained jobs make more than that what trained.

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Jobs is available.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 2>If you pull up, this is what we're saying.

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:37.760
<v Speaker 1>This is Ford left the country.

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>This is well, I mean, like right now there is

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 2>a massive drought for a lot of basic skilled labor electricians, plumbers,

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of shit, mechanics, all that kind of stuff.

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>It said, that's that's it. That's it's a shortage for.

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Sure, major shortage, nationally rich, regional so like. And the

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>thing I think with Watts almost give credit WATS is

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>transiend in nineteen seventy WATS was like seventy five percent

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>black and twenty five percent Mexican. Now it's the other

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 2>way around. So less black people were fucking the Mexicans

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>came out.

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>People left, Nah, they got priced out. They didn't just leave.

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>The prices really start slipping up, probably in the in

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the late two thousands. I remember that, Like I remember

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 1>growing up right, hustling, selling drugs and shit. You buy

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a house in Watch for fifty thousand.

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 2>What what year would you say Watts stopped being seventy

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:33.479
<v Speaker 2>percent black?

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Probably too well, that changed, But I'm gonna tell you

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>why that changed.

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm only using the race thing because to identify.

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You, not even race, because Mexicans wouldn't be a race,

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>that'd just be white people.

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying because if it was all black people,

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't keep track of who's moving in and out.

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Uh, probably became fifty to fifty in two thousand

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and four.

0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Like nineteen ninety.

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know tistically.

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the census numbers.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true. I don't even think

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that's true because the projects wasn't fifty to fifty. Projects

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't fifty fifty in nineteen ninety for sure.

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 2>No, but but I do.

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, when I saw it was fifty five,

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>well I looked and I was on the seven and

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent of the people in the house at this

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>point was Mexican. Now this is probably twenty nineteen, nine nine,

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two thousand. I'm looking like, Okay, every

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>other house is somebody from Mexico or somebody else that

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>speaks Spanish.

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure, that's that's about a generation. Yeah, you know.

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 1>But but what happened is, right, is as the houses

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.240
<v Speaker 1>started to change pricing. It wasn't like people just left

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and then people moved in, right, Like some people left

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 1>because they felt like there was no opportunity. Sure, right,

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>so there's like, let me go get some opportunity, and

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:55.320
<v Speaker 1>then I do agree. Right, you may have had somebody

0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that you know from you know, Mexico and below, you know,

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>South America moving in multiple families.

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was just kids from Mexican parents in

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Long Beach shouldn't have shit else going on, or had

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 2>a shittier job, and they moved to watch because they

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 2>just could afford it to watch.

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Nah, nah, nah. It was people who didn't even speak English. Yeah,

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely people you know, coming across and ship

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and getting those properties. But see, it didn't used to

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 1>be like now when I'm in the sixties, it's fifty percent. Yeah, See,

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>wats has always been hell of multicultural, Like even if

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was seventy five to twenty five, it probably was

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than that because I could always

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>remember when I'm at my dad house, Mexican people being there.

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I think my older homies may remember a time

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 1>or Watch was like one hundred percent, but I ain't

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>never in my life. So the East Side has always

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>been my grandma friends of black family in the thirties

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and they wasn't even a black family the people for

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a long time.

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 2>And Watch is right next to the South gates, so

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 2>that's natural exactly.

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>So something else is happening, Pete, Like, I don't think

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.879
<v Speaker 1>it's as simple as people are moving out and other

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 1>people are moving in. I think there is a target.

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a reason people move here, right, And

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like with gentrification, right, there's a there's a mass

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>movement of people. Like it's not as simple as like,

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>oh you know what people like. Like even when I

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 1>was in Content the other day, I went to a

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.120
<v Speaker 1>cook's corner. I think that's the name of the barbecue spot.

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Got the name of the barbecue spot, but that's not

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the barbecue.

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Remember I brought a bunch of barbecue comptent up here

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:34.799
<v Speaker 2>at one time.

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know was it was. It was. It was

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>it at a Dolley truck.

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>There was a little a small, little restaurant. It was

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>almost I think it was near a churches.

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Like this place is fire. Oh hold on, we call

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker Mannica. Oh up, we.

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Can't call in a barbecue address. In the middle of

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, everybody to stop us.

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna fucking stop us?

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:05.959
<v Speaker 2>This is the most important thing we're gonna talk about,

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>exact opinion, quite frankly, exactly.

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I need to know about this je Manny Manny from

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:18.320
<v Speaker 1>as Boys fucking worldwide. What's the name of that barbecue

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>spot in Compton you sent me to That was really good?

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 1>That got the big dinosaur ribs in Compton. Oh, kitchen corner,

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>kitchen corner a dry back. So I I was in

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 1>k I was. I went to kitchen Corner the other

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:37.839
<v Speaker 1>day and I look and really now, like you're right,

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Compton is probably like you know, Compton for sure would

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>be like eighty percent. But I think that's the problem, right.

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I think what's happening is is there's a gentrification, right,

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a thing happening. These These are conversations that's happening, even

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>if we're not a part of them, Like even if

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not mainstream conversations, if everybody don't know about the conversations,

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 1>these conversations, Pete, is happening and these places are being

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 1>targeted specifically for certain moves of economic growth, like even

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a gentrification plan that's not an accident.

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about that's on the buyer side. You're not

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna want to hear it.

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll preface it with a quote from Jamaica Andrea usually

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<v Speaker 2>because he came from Jamaica in the in the country

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<v Speaker 2>and was in the Bronx, and he's very critical, as

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people from the islands are when they

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 2>come to the States. He would say, you know, I

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 2>can always tell what houses the Jamaican's wearing in the Bronx.

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 2>How's that because the lawn was cut and they had

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.759
<v Speaker 2>flowers in the front yard. That's his words, not mine.

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.919
<v Speaker 1>But the I get it, I get it right. Because

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 1>even even though that's a bit ridiculous, but I get

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>what he's says. Yeah, it's sure, Sure, it's a loose

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's a loose idea. It's a loose concept because

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>there's black people who manicure their nons. But I know

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.040
<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about. Yeah, But also it's different. You

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>come from a fucking third world country, right, and then

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you come to Compton or you come to the Bronx,

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like it's like when people say, oh, well,

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Mexican people come to Los Angeles, and it's like they like,

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 1>they go, do nigga. They come from somewhere. Nigga's no

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>roofs on the property. They come from somewhere. It's like

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:23.919
<v Speaker 1>a different level of poverty. So even at that starting point,

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.839
<v Speaker 1>it's still better than where they started at. It ain't

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 1>like we're getting the It ain't like the Wildens people

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>from Jamaica's coming here. But that's not that matters point.

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, at the same time, you also if

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you came from nineteen fifties rural Mississippi or rural Louisiana,

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that's like modern day Jamaica poor.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but those people come and that's why if you

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>look at certain houses in one eleven, one eleven is

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 1>uh or how would I reference that to you? Imperial?

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Imperial and van is those houses uh Compton. If you

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>go to those older people houses that came from the south,

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 1>look at their fucking house. They have those manicure lines,

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the grass they are, but them ain't. That ain't the

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>same house that Jamaican Andre and their family had in Jamaica.

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>They ain't had no fucking lines manicured and no motherfucking

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 1>flowers over there, just like the people in Mexico that

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>come here, right, the homies and shit different people I

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 1>fuck with, They didn't have fucking manicured lines and flowers

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in fucking Mexico.

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 2>In Vaness, it's not that far different people from like

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Danker and one hundred and third.

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Danker and one hundred and third, dank one hundred third,

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>like one of the hood.

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Streets and the hundreds. That's pretty damn.

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Close a one hundred and third. But it is different,

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:50.439
<v Speaker 1>right because if you okay, I agree, right, because okay,

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I see you're talking about Yeah, so some of those people,

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 1>all of those people aren't the people that came here

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.839
<v Speaker 1>originally and bought those houses, right, some of those people

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>if you look at certain houses on those blocks, right,

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Like if you go in the sixties, if you go

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>on the hundreds and dinker in one hundred and third,

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is who is it?

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's like Hoover, that's hundreds, that danker between

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Western and Normandy.

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, none is that fot? Yeah? Okay, so yeah,

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the hundreds. Wait a minute, man, that's wes Okay,

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 1>one eleven. If you go to those houses, right, you

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>go to any of those houses, it's going to be

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>people that own that property since the fifties and sixties.

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>That's why it looks like that. It's not the children,

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not the people who ended up on crack. It's

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>not none of those people. Because remember these neighborhoods were

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>all nice at a time unless somebody parents was going

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>through it. But it's a hard competition to compete with

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody who comes from a third world country and then

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>has opportunity at this. Even how they look at it

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is completely different. How they see it is completely different,

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Like like what's going on in watch right now? Ever

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>since they sold the projects, you started to see white people.

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You in comp you started to see Asian people. I

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>remember the only Asian people in the Compton. Dog was

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the projects they saw. I know, right, it's

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:17.919
<v Speaker 1>some crazy shit.

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh with like the little mall over there.

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>No, they sold the projects.

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>To who it's the new Jordan Down developments.

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>No, it's you gotta look it up. It's some crazy shit, right.

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying even when you're on crensyall right, like

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>where where the low riders park at on the boulevard,

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Like with a woman situation, I've seen a man, a

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 1>white man, running his dog with little shorts.

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah.

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So again it's these are not like, oh you know what,

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 1>let me find somewhere to move. I'm gonna go down here.

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's ten times worse than like the north

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 2>side avenues that like twenty five years.

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.919
<v Speaker 1>Ago were like the side nees. What's the north side

0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like Mount Washington.

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 2>If you go up the one ten north of downtown,

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you get like at like North Avenue forty three.

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're talking about like neor Pasadena. That that part

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of La. Yeah, that's not passing, but that part LA

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah.

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's like it was hood as fuck up there.

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that been gentrified for a good twenty years now.

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. It's like, it's like that, it's

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, saying from a time span standpoint, it's like.

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, but I think all generation has sure. But

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I digress. I think the point I'm saying is it

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>makes it when we don't take care of each other

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 1>as a society, right, Like Americans don't take care of

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Americans as a society. Right. This is where you have

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 1>those problems. The fact that bel Air is right there

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and this is right here, right, that's what fucks it up.

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what makes people even more crazy than everything.

0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>How could somebody be ten miles and a half into

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<v Speaker 1>hardly too much somebody ten miles have entirely not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just fucking crazy, Pete. Now, I think it was

1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 1>even the concept of the wealth gap, right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Ford was an innovator. I do think, you know,

1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Milton Herstey was an innovator. But they cared about other

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:20.680
<v Speaker 1>human beings to some degree, even when it came in

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<v Speaker 1>America to see their dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the builder is that guy like that's that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of my top criticisms of I'm not saying one of

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<v Speaker 2>my top this is gonna sound wrong, but from an

1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>economic in the economic conversation, sure, the problem in the

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<v Speaker 2>economic conversation, just so we're clear with slavery was most

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:52.560
<v Speaker 2>innovation and growth comes from hands on workers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's fair. The way you could take more cotton,

1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you pick more cotton you have to get or you're

1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:02.720
<v Speaker 1>working on the machine, had plantation, no shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you have the freedom to implement an idea

1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:09.240
<v Speaker 2>to make something happen more efficiently, that's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>from the person who's doing it all day long. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to happen from another guy, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Ninety nine percent of the time, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why you see, like the South was sparse

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<v Speaker 2>concentrations of ultra wealth and then mass poverty, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the aggregate, the South was way more poor than the

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<v Speaker 2>North because there had wealthy people. Yeah, because their whole

1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:36.120
<v Speaker 2>working class of people that was slaves were not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to implement human thought. So they're just doing work frozen

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<v Speaker 2>like cryogenically frozen in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, if they how they started, how they had to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had, however, many million people working on a

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<v Speaker 2>task in an industry commercial vertical for fifty years in

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<v Speaker 2>year fifty year one, that industry wouldn't even resemble itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, normally, but usually you would have took the you

1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 1>have took how to make it happen faster when there's people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some guy would work at a place, he'd go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're slow at this. I can do it better.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go across the street, start a small shop,

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<v Speaker 2>do it faster, build and compete against them. Or they

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<v Speaker 2>would just implement the thing, get a raise, whatever the fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>and shit just happens. I mean, there's no there's not

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<v Speaker 2>an example in which that's not really true, even agriculture now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm saying, what's the point of even doing

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<v Speaker 1>it with slavery. I'm sure some of the slaves came

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<v Speaker 1>up with better ideas, but I guess like you might

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<v Speaker 1>be getting too many ideas, nigg You might think you

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<v Speaker 1>can be free nicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you know how many of them are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, oh, hey, uncle Bill, this is a faster

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<v Speaker 2>way to do this. Yeah. Well, I'm saying, yeah, Bill

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<v Speaker 2>runs the place. You're Bill's nephew, Uncle Bill. I got

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<v Speaker 2>an idea, what if you do this? Where'd you come

1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:05.160
<v Speaker 2>with that idea? Oh? That slave guy over there top

1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that he's smarter than you. Probably not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>M So it has to be something as simple as greed.

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<v Speaker 1>It cannot just be.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's a problem. There is an inherent just one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an inherent issue with the arc of like wealth

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<v Speaker 2>growth when.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes from you know what happened, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>to cut you off. Wealth went from just wealth used

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<v Speaker 1>to be more than just money. It used to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a connection to community, a connection to humanity, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like back in the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>was wealth meant more than just I have in time

1:04:00.120 --> 1:04:03.200
<v Speaker 1>too much money. It also meant I had the affection

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<v Speaker 1>of human beings.

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<v Speaker 2>It was tied to productivity. You know what the largest

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<v Speaker 2>do you is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford really not still producing or is it just productivity

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<v Speaker 1>based off between them Ford Motor.

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<v Speaker 2>Co Company, Inc. And for the guy, sure, guy running

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<v Speaker 2>for a CEO. Now I'm not named for it. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to even even have to look at it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but like talk about like you know what the biggest

1:04:32.520 --> 1:04:37.880
<v Speaker 2>industry in the world is currency exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Currency exchange make the most money with the money is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know if they make the most money, but it's seven

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<v Speaker 2>trillion dollars plus per day in global currency exchange. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not production. Hiring somebody to come in and be hiring

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<v Speaker 2>a room of five hundred analysts to scrutinize where you

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<v Speaker 2>can save a nickel. That's not production. Paying somebody half

1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:05.040
<v Speaker 2>a million dollars a year to be in house counsel

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<v Speaker 2>to stave off some sort of stupid whatever the fuck

1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>slip and fall lawsuit that you're gonna face. For Christ

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<v Speaker 2>knows what is not production. Being in some sort of

1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:21.000
<v Speaker 2>private equity subsidized bizarre matrix where you're just running free

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<v Speaker 2>money around because interest rates were one percent for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>or because we've now subsidized big banks as being too

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<v Speaker 2>big to fail so that they don't even understand risk

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<v Speaker 2>components in the economy. There's no growth because there's no failure.

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<v Speaker 2>You've subsidized failure out of existence. You have an enormous

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<v Speaker 2>class of wealthy Americans that get money and produce nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>How are these people getting more wealthy without producing anything? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>Market manipulation, you don't think and hyperregulation. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do now, Like you're ex company and you're

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<v Speaker 2>now the biggest company in your field in America or

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<v Speaker 2>the world. What's your top priority. It's lobbying barriers of

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<v Speaker 2>entry and barriers of competition from anybody else to knock

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<v Speaker 2>you off the top. It's not trying to create a

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<v Speaker 2>better product anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You pivot. Why do you pivot?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have new rooms of leaders who run out

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<v Speaker 2>of ideas, but they don't want to lose their seat

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<v Speaker 2>on the top of the mountain. So instead of you

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<v Speaker 2>can't climb up any further, all you can do is

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<v Speaker 2>prevent anybody else like that. That's the story. Like California

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<v Speaker 2>right now makes sense. California matured into the fifth largest

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<v Speaker 2>economy in the world by itself. You can't build sit here.

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<v Speaker 2>Like how many people are billionaires in California from real

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<v Speaker 2>estate development? That's like most other than the tech people

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<v Speaker 2>who are also completely invested in an anti competitive environment.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no competition for Apple, there's no competition for Google.

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<v Speaker 2>And then take Donald Brinn of the Irvine Company out

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<v Speaker 2>of Orange County or Caruso, the developer in La what

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<v Speaker 2>do they do? They just lobby. They lobby for anything good. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they lobby for exemptions and carve outs out of massive

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<v Speaker 2>blanket regulations that prevent anybody from building anything except for them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Caruso is always running for some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>fucking office. That's why it is always in politics. Why

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<v Speaker 2>you're always in politics. All you do is build shopping malls. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't build a shopping mall if you aren't in politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck part of the economy? Is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good? Looking out for tuning in to the Note Sellers podcast,

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