Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck That with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone.
Speaker 2: So you got two Latto winners in close proximity to
Speaker 2: each other, trying to simultaneously hunt the other one down.
Speaker 1: How do you think they won the same numbers? Again?
Speaker 2: I think they both have. They're from the same area,
Speaker 2: same interests, same traditions, same shit. I think they walked
Speaker 2: in and said, I want my lucky numbers. Here at
Speaker 2: the six lucky numbers, and they both got the same
Speaker 2: six numbers. I think it's more likely that than they
Speaker 2: just randomly spun the same ones.
Speaker 1: My thought is somebody told somebody to get their lottery numbers. Here,
Speaker 1: play my numbers, and they went to play the numbers,
Speaker 1: and they felt they didn't go play the numbers, so
Speaker 1: they went to plan themselves. So I think it's probably
Speaker 1: the winner of the both winners are out the same
Speaker 1: exact household.
Speaker 2: It's very likely. That makes it even more chaos. That's
Speaker 2: almost like a domestic grudge death match.
Speaker 1: I was reading this crazy story today and there was
Speaker 1: a lady who got a tip. She was in the
Speaker 1: South and somebody tipped her ten million dollars. No, they
Speaker 1: tipped her a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2: Isn't tike a movie out of that with Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. But she won the lottery.
Speaker 1: She they tipped her a lottery ticket and the ticket
Speaker 1: hit for ten million. Yeah, and she took the ten million.
Speaker 1: And then first her co workers, her co people, was like, well,
Speaker 1: we split the tips, we split the tips, and so
Speaker 1: they tried to see her and didn't work. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then the person who actually gave her the ticket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess they was joking. She like, well, if I hit,
Speaker 1: I'll buy you a truck or either. He said to
Speaker 1: her when he tipped her the ticket. If you hit,
Speaker 1: you gotta buy me a truck, and she was like okay.
Speaker 1: So he tried to sue her. Wow. He tried to
Speaker 1: sue her and it didn't work. And then the husband
Speaker 1: kidnapped her, who had just got a fresh divorce, kidnapped
Speaker 1: her to try to get it, and she ended up
Speaker 1: getting a gun and shooting a husband. Wow.
Speaker 2: That's an that's one too. That's that's a more interesting
Speaker 2: movie because something like that happened in the movie, but
Speaker 2: it was in like New York at a diner and
Speaker 2: some lady won off of a tipped ticket or some nonsense,
Speaker 2: and uh, it was just kind of like rom come,
Speaker 2: but that that that hadn't.
Speaker 1: No rom com. No, this is the real deal. Read.
Speaker 1: Between reading that and living today, I was just thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, like, I don't know how I do this
Speaker 1: life sober.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it a little unsettling.
Speaker 1: And I used to think to myself, I don't know
Speaker 1: how everybody else is drinking and smoking weed and shit.
Speaker 1: I used to think everybody else is crazy. But as
Speaker 1: I get older, I'm starting to believe I'm the crazy
Speaker 1: motherfucker for doing this life sober.
Speaker 2: What's in the red cup?
Speaker 1: Then water?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, No, I think that. I don't think
Speaker 2: that you're sober for being or you're crazy for being
Speaker 2: the sober one. I think crazy lends itself to you
Speaker 2: being the sober one.
Speaker 1: Elaborate, elaborate, Like.
Speaker 2: I think you have to be crazy to want to
Speaker 2: soak it all in and make sure you don't miss anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you feel everything, you see everything, to always be
Speaker 1: aware and conscious. It's crazy, like everything and I think
Speaker 1: things that other people use to get by, because I
Speaker 1: think the things that other people use to get by,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with weed or alcohol or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I get it now, I really fucking get it.
Speaker 1: Because I was talking ahead about it earlier and I
Speaker 1: was like, here's it's like what it got to be arrogant.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you think it's arrogance that we
Speaker 1: don't drink or smoke like that. He's like, well, because
Speaker 1: it's like we believe we could deal with it. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't think I ever thought about
Speaker 1: it like that. I just thought about it in the
Speaker 1: sense that, you know, he referencedeeing people throwing up on
Speaker 1: a curve. I was like, well, I've seen people be
Speaker 1: buzz and I wouldn't go to the exaggeration. I'm worried
Speaker 1: about throwing up as much as as much as ah, like,
Speaker 1: just poisoning myself, throwing off my equilibrium at all for
Speaker 1: any reason. I get that. So that that became the
Speaker 1: main thing, Like I just never thought about it, like
Speaker 1: and then every time it costs no benefit proposition, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't get the benefit. Like to me, these are normal.
Speaker 1: It's like most people talk about normal functions, achieving normal
Speaker 1: functions through assistance, right, They'll be like, or I want
Speaker 1: to relax. I'm like relax or you know, like if
Speaker 1: you meet a girl.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: You'll meet a girl and she's not trying to use
Speaker 1: some pussy, but she's at the board drinking, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, why are you lowering your
Speaker 1: inhibitions if your goal is not to have lowered inhibitions?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: It just it gets crazier and crazier every time.
Speaker 2: That's true. I don't know personally, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess like through time, people who drink like the cope
Speaker 2: and shit like that. Seems like I know a lot
Speaker 2: of more people who smoke weed to cope.
Speaker 1: You know, like.
Speaker 2: Because I've always equated it, like I don't drink that
Speaker 2: much anymore, like in frequency or volume. But there's people
Speaker 2: I know that like through their day, they you know,
Speaker 2: got to hit the when they get up before work,
Speaker 2: on a break at work, lunch, after work, before they
Speaker 2: go to bed. It's like five times. Like if I
Speaker 2: had a cocktail five times a day, every single fucking day,
Speaker 2: I'd walk into an intervention at some point, like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's kind of like my my weed curses,
Speaker 2: like like that's a lot, you know, like you can't
Speaker 2: make it three four hours. You just go to work
Speaker 2: and send in a cubicle.
Speaker 1: How did you start drinking?
Speaker 2: My best friend growing up was the youngest of like
Speaker 2: four so and by by a margin, he was what
Speaker 2: some might call a change of life baby, others might
Speaker 2: call an accident. So his older brothers that he looked
Speaker 2: up to a lot, like when he was younger, they
Speaker 2: were like, like we were in grade school, they were
Speaker 2: like in college doing the fraternity thing or whatever else.
Speaker 2: Some the time we were in high school, they were
Speaker 2: in there like I don't know, fucking mid late twenties whatever,
Speaker 2: They're out and going to bars when I was kind
Speaker 2: of junk whatever. So I started drinking with him one
Speaker 2: time on a vacation. I went on a vacation with
Speaker 2: his family once, and I didn't think a lot of it.
Speaker 2: At some point in time in high school, around in
Speaker 2: eleventh grade. I was from about the eleventh grade through
Speaker 2: at the time I was like twenty to twenty, I
Speaker 2: drank a lot. Like seventeen to twenty, I drank a
Speaker 2: lot twenty one to twenty three, I drank less, but
Speaker 2: there were still some frequent, like gargantuan consumption moments, you know.
Speaker 2: After that, I really you know, if I get drunk drunk,
Speaker 2: it might be once a year maybe, And it just
Speaker 2: happened randomly.
Speaker 1: So so your partner turn you on, hold up, no seilings,
Speaker 1: g L my man Peter in the house. So your
Speaker 1: partner introduce you to drinking.
Speaker 2: That's correct. It wasn't like I hadn't heard of it.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I'm saying, but the first time I drank,
Speaker 1: do you remember what it was?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was a beer, just a beer. Remember what
Speaker 2: kind of beer? But uh.
Speaker 1: So, what did you start drinking after that?
Speaker 2: Whatever we had after that? I didn't start really discerning
Speaker 2: any kind of alcohol until I had to become responsible
Speaker 2: for getting it myself. Then I it just it went
Speaker 2: from whatever got handed to me to well, now since
Speaker 2: I have to make the decision, you.
Speaker 1: Know, So, how the fuck did you start drinking a
Speaker 1: lot between seventeen and twenty and nobody noticed?
Speaker 2: I don't know if nobody noticed, but like, how do
Speaker 2: you mean, like.
Speaker 1: How was you going home drinking a lot? Like how
Speaker 1: was you going home your your mom and dad, sister,
Speaker 1: how you going home if you're drinking a lot? Younger
Speaker 1: people can handle liquor better.
Speaker 2: Oh, they bounced back faster. Hangover is not a big
Speaker 2: deal when you're younger, handle it better. No, But I've
Speaker 2: I only got caught coming home drunk once, and it
Speaker 2: was so stupid because I think my parents didn't think
Speaker 2: I was going to drink and drive, and a lot
Speaker 2: of the time I didn't, but a lot of the
Speaker 2: time I did too, So it depended.
Speaker 1: On I quite a lot of the times you didn't.
Speaker 1: A lot of times you.
Speaker 2: Did, yeah, meaning it was a mixed bag. But the
Speaker 2: nights when I didn't, I would still drive and leave
Speaker 2: the house, but I would drive around the corner and
Speaker 2: get my friend's car. So the time that I got
Speaker 2: caught coming home driving drunk, I had driven one hundred feet.
Speaker 2: I just came around a corner like this, stopped for
Speaker 2: like the other side of the neighbor's house.
Speaker 1: So at that point, why the fuck was you even
Speaker 1: driving to move.
Speaker 2: The car back so it looked like I didn't. I
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to go out and drink like that. Oh,
Speaker 2: so there was.
Speaker 1: That Imagine you seventeen to twenty You for sure wouldn't
Speaker 1: be old of to go out and drink like that, folks. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: So Also they had a house with two stories, so
Speaker 2: like my bedroom had like a balcony thing, so I
Speaker 2: could get out and come back in through there. That
Speaker 2: happened a lot too.
Speaker 1: The fuck you get out through the balcony, fucking spider
Speaker 1: man up the dam? You ever climbed up drunk?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, you're a fail. No close, but no, what
Speaker 1: the fuck was you climbing to climb up to the balcony?
Speaker 1: You got a ladder out there?
Speaker 2: No, it's funny. They had a little retaining wall kind
Speaker 2: of thing by like the pool filter shit, So I
Speaker 2: could hop up onto that and jump from that and
Speaker 2: catch that and pull myself up onto the next thing
Speaker 2: and then just go over the rail and walk in
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 1: White life is just white life is fucking hella, like
Speaker 1: how most met like general pot people feel about, you know,
Speaker 1: growing up in the ghetto. That's how I feel about
Speaker 1: Like when you hear about white life, I mean not
Speaker 1: white life like ghetto, because I get how trailer trash
Speaker 1: white life can go, but regular and yeah, like saved
Speaker 1: by the bell, white life, Kelly Zach and Slater white life,
Speaker 1: it's almost like that's not real to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of bilateral disconnect.
Speaker 1: It's like the first time I started hanging out in
Speaker 1: Lakewood and you start meaning like go to people house.
Speaker 1: I remember one of my child friends, he became a
Speaker 1: police officer. He was a little older than us. I
Speaker 1: think I went to our teaching my freshman year in Lakewood,
Speaker 1: and they used to have a park across the street
Speaker 1: called Palm's Park, and it was cool. I was super
Speaker 1: good at karams because obviously from the ghetto, they got carams.
Speaker 1: But I remember I used to have so many like
Speaker 1: white friends.
Speaker 2: Went to Teacher High School for year. One year, my
Speaker 2: friends older sister they moved. They were from South Central
Speaker 2: and that his mom moved them down to our school district.
Speaker 2: But his older sister went to ar Teaser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ABC school district. I had got a's and shit,
Speaker 1: and I had thirty six tarties. So they pulled my permit,
Speaker 1: send my eyes right back to Compton, like you're not
Speaker 1: going this ain't happening, And my mom ended up giving
Speaker 1: me a pair of my high school because they still had,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't let me go to Compton Lock Jeordan, Like
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the schools that you know,
Speaker 1: we grew up because it's all your friends go there.
Speaker 1: But they didn't have ap class the school.
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on if you are your mom's
Speaker 2: your dad's, Like what school would have been your school?
Speaker 1: Well, at my mom, I was Conter High that was
Speaker 1: Leterly like four minutes away. At my dad house, it
Speaker 1: would have probably been to ten, which that would have
Speaker 1: been weird. Yeah, it would have been ten to ten
Speaker 1: or Locked or maybe lynn Will because a lot of
Speaker 1: their older homies went to lynd Wood too, that was close.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, because don't understand like how that school district
Speaker 2: iSport was because obviously Compton unified its own thing. You're
Speaker 2: on the LA side, you know. So you got a
Speaker 2: USD address.
Speaker 1: Yep, right, because you so in wats right, you got
Speaker 1: Jordan right by the Jordan Downs. You got Locked. You
Speaker 1: got Centennial because Centennial's is in Los Angeles too. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know it seemed like it's in Comptant, but it
Speaker 1: gets freaking when you get over Well, I think no,
Speaker 1: Centennial is in Compton.
Speaker 2: Still yeah, I swear that it is, But.
Speaker 1: It would have been one of those schools. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to those schools because that's where everybody
Speaker 1: you know went to school. Yeah, yeah, Centennia was at Compton,
Speaker 1: so soon as you cross over, that was a good though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it would have been one of those schools, the Mingas.
Speaker 1: Maybe my mom wasn't going for that. They had no
Speaker 1: AP classes. She was like that ship out the Mingas.
Speaker 1: She none of those schools had AP classes. There was
Speaker 1: no chance she was letting me go to school without
Speaker 1: being in an advanced placement. That just wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I used to notice that, and so I
Speaker 1: got a chance to hang around that kind of environment
Speaker 1: for about a good months and just really chilling, just
Speaker 1: tripping off of it. And that's how I knew it
Speaker 1: was real because before that, you know Compton and watching
Speaker 1: you think Comptonent watches the whole world like everywhere is
Speaker 1: like this. Some people don't have money, some people on drugs.
Speaker 1: You go to Lakewood, ain't nobody pushing no damn baskets?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? When you and watching content,
Speaker 1: people pushing baskets, assembling all kinds of things that they
Speaker 1: could sell to try to buy some rocks like that
Speaker 1: was normal. I think about a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: that was normal at that time.
Speaker 2: I have to ask, sure, because the the language choice
Speaker 2: was so particular. Sure, you said assembling all kinds of things.
Speaker 2: What kind of product would a person purchased for money
Speaker 2: that had been assembled by a crackhead? What would be
Speaker 2: something that they might assemble.
Speaker 1: When I'm saying as symble, I mean gathering, right, So
Speaker 1: some people would be taking like people would be pushing grows.
Speaker 1: They used to still the grocery baskets, sure, right from
Speaker 1: the grocery store and be pushing them around as simp
Speaker 1: like gathering things to sell. You got it. So it
Speaker 1: could be something like cans, bottles. Some people would get TVs.
Speaker 1: People would do that time. They was the only flockers.
Speaker 1: Crackheads was the only flockers. It was only people breaking
Speaker 1: in people houses. Sometimes you see people with TVs radios,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times that shit to be working,
Speaker 1: like they knew the difference between junk and things that
Speaker 1: people bought. Sure, Sure, so I used to look at
Speaker 1: them people crazy, But I'm starting to really think that
Speaker 1: I must be crazy. Because I don't know how I
Speaker 1: deal with this world sober, Like Chuck Game is posting
Speaker 1: all these pictures of uh, what's going on and over
Speaker 1: there in Israel?
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: You know it's people posting babies being blown up and
Speaker 1: women dead, And I was just thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 1: how am I sober looking at all this shit?
Speaker 2: It's a matter of scope, I suppose. I mean, it's tragic,
Speaker 2: is a hell, but I've never I don't know as
Speaker 2: far as like the world me personally, I never blinked.
Speaker 1: M I don't think I blink. I think I see
Speaker 1: it all. But it's also why like I'll be on
Speaker 1: my Donnie Hathaway where I'd be like, eah, living ain't
Speaker 1: what it cracked up to be, Like, like, I have
Speaker 1: huge faith in humanity, but that's probably a big problem too.
Speaker 1: I believe in humanity, and that probably is like a
Speaker 1: flaw maybe.
Speaker 2: I mean humanity cuts both ways. Humanity makes creates enormous problems,
Speaker 2: and humanity solves enormous problems.
Speaker 1: You know what's the biggest problem they ever solve? You
Speaker 1: feel humanity?
Speaker 2: Humanity? Well, I mean the almost obvious one. I mean,
Speaker 2: like they created a humanity created a clusterfuck of World
Speaker 2: War two. It also solved the same problem.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the what do you mean you solve
Speaker 1: which problem? I think humanity don't do shit but cause problems.
Speaker 1: I don't think humanity has done one good thing for
Speaker 1: the Earth. I would disagree with that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I think humanity just creates problems and then
Speaker 1: solve the problems that they create, and then the problems
Speaker 1: that they solve creates even more problems.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the default setting is a problem. You know,
Speaker 2: if you were to go back and back and back
Speaker 2: and back in time, whether the human life expectancy probably
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty years, you will die in all kinds
Speaker 2: of different ways we were supposed to. That's probably true.
Speaker 2: I think that there's it's like every innovation that's that's
Speaker 2: that's helped human beings. Human beings probably worse for the Earth.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I think there's the person.
Speaker 2: I think there is fine. The Earth's equilibrium is pretty fine.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 2: The abundant, like abundance breeds abundance, and abundance breeds time.
Speaker 2: So the same ecosystem of the human mind that was
Speaker 2: able to use spare time to invent a light bulb,
Speaker 2: was able to use spare time to devise eugenics, you know,
Speaker 2: time to think. It's all in the mind of the thinker.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Every day I'll be disappointed.
Speaker 2: Because, yeah, that disappointing types, but I don't think it
Speaker 2: ever wasn't a disappointing time.
Speaker 1: It's also true, you know what I mean, Like, how
Speaker 1: could a place like Watts in a place like Newport
Speaker 1: Beach exists at the same time. That gotta be like
Speaker 1: a fucking flaw in a place like bell Layer in
Speaker 1: a place like Compton can exist at the same time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: think about that bell Layer and Compton, then motherfuckers is
Speaker 1: twenty miles from each other. I think. Let me look
Speaker 1: it up, gul Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, how far is Central Park West or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell from Harlem? I mean, it'sn't like Park Avenue
Speaker 2: on one side of Central Park West or I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: one side of Central Park and then like Harlem is
Speaker 2: like basically the other side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Compton to bell Layer is nineteen miles.
Speaker 2: A little more. Number of guests had about fourteen, But.
Speaker 1: How the fuck can somebody have entirely too much and
Speaker 1: then these people have entirely not enough. That gotta be
Speaker 1: like the greatest, Like that's just crap. It's nineteen miles
Speaker 1: peat it is how could you? How could you have
Speaker 1: that much? And then somebody this close could not have
Speaker 1: nearly enough and you exist peacefully.
Speaker 2: That's the last part is kind of the uh, the kicker,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know resources come buy an awful lot.
Speaker 1: Like think about that. There's a house in bell Layer
Speaker 1: for sale right now. Let me look at this. Was
Speaker 1: looking at a house in bell Layer for sale right
Speaker 1: It came up in my email and there's a house
Speaker 1: in bell Layer. Oh thin.
Speaker 2: I saw something about that.
Speaker 1: It was like some kind of crazy means like a
Speaker 1: nine figure Yeah, it was like one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: nine million dollars a twelve bedroom, seventeen bath, two acre
Speaker 1: house and bell Layer. The address is twelve hundred Bell Layer, rolled,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Sky nine zero zero seven seven. The house
Speaker 1: cousin is one hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2: You know what I really don't understand about that. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of surplus bathrooms in that home.
Speaker 1: It's almost like they don't want to share the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I never got that evil.
Speaker 2: I understand Okay, we're gonna have twelve bedrooms and then
Speaker 2: twelve bathrooms.
Speaker 1: Five teams. Yeah, I get thirteen guess bathroom? You want
Speaker 1: people in Yo bad.
Speaker 2: They've got five or six extra bathrooms. It's as if
Speaker 2: they're serving laxative in there. And you better have a
Speaker 2: bathroom close enough to in case, you know, you don't
Speaker 2: have to go down to the hall too far to
Speaker 2: the next bathroom.
Speaker 1: You never know what that was about.
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on there?
Speaker 1: But I'm looking and this is right here, and they
Speaker 1: be talking shit about these people who running in these
Speaker 1: stores taking shit.
Speaker 2: Five one hundred thousand is about what it's about the
Speaker 2: price of a house in Compton.
Speaker 1: Three to five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if we if we called it five, that's
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty houses in Compton for that guy's house.
Speaker 2: That would be pretty cool. If I was going to
Speaker 2: roll up, roll up a buck forty on a property acquisition,
Speaker 2: I'd be down to buy two hundred and eighty house.
Speaker 2: Isn't Compton? They were all, if they were all attached,
Speaker 2: they all.
Speaker 1: But it's like the down payment because it's twenty eight
Speaker 1: MILLI you know, the dawn payment is twenty eight minutes
Speaker 1: for yeah, twenty eight million, twenty percent, and the monthly
Speaker 1: payment is one million dollars nine hundred and eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: a month. Yeah, I mean I don't think you can
Speaker 1: even findance that for thirty years.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know at this interest rates like this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably could.
Speaker 1: Would you even want to finance that at that point
Speaker 1: thirty six was at one hundred, was at twelve million
Speaker 1: a year, one twenty three six, God damn three g
Speaker 1: you've been in the house four hundred million dollars. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that type of shit make me want to drink. The
Speaker 1: fact that that much house is fifteen miles away from
Speaker 1: the ghetto. It depends on which ghetto because it probably
Speaker 1: could be like if you want the Hoovers, I'm probably at.
Speaker 2: It from the Jays about eighty.
Speaker 1: But the Jay's is almost like a science project.
Speaker 2: How far has it been from the Harlems? About nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's close. The Jazz is different because the Jays is.
Speaker 2: Like a like a when I sold those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's it's gonna be over.
Speaker 2: I was trying to tell Malcolm. I was like, what
Speaker 2: you need to do, because he was all like, I
Speaker 2: gotta turn in the jungles. I was like you can
Speaker 2: complaining about they suck for thirty years. He should be happy.
Speaker 2: But like I was, like, go get Potomac made a
Speaker 2: historical landmark site. I mean it was the culmination scene
Speaker 2: of what was that? Then? That the first oscar to
Speaker 2: a black actor in a non supporting role. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: just go over the city hall and get it the
Speaker 2: cleared the historical monument. They'll do it in two seconds.
Speaker 1: And then what does that do?
Speaker 2: I can't knock it down. The rest of it they
Speaker 2: probably knocked down, but you can at least hold down
Speaker 2: the cold set.
Speaker 1: You know what. Somebody asked me that I think gentrification
Speaker 1: was bad. They was like, oh, Gusins, you don't think
Speaker 1: it's better. I'm thinking to myself, like I get it right, Like,
Speaker 1: because that's what's been That's what's happening right, These places
Speaker 1: are being gentrified. But it's like if you're not, how
Speaker 1: is it somebody could have enough fucking money to come
Speaker 1: over here and buy shit, but the people who live
Speaker 1: here don't have enough money to buy shit. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, how do you have that much
Speaker 1: money to where all these stray people can come and
Speaker 1: move into community? And they got enough money to afford it,
Speaker 1: but the people right there can't afford it. And what
Speaker 1: people would like me to believe is that, like a
Speaker 1: drunk mind would like me to believe that, oh, they
Speaker 1: just didn't do anything with their life. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, the majority of the population bro as sheit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's easy to lead sheep any direction you want
Speaker 1: them to go.
Speaker 2: The American perspective on wealth disparity is perceived upside down.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like looking at a forest right from eye level
Speaker 2: to the top I leveled to the top of what
Speaker 2: of the of the trees in the forest? Soy feet
Speaker 2: up in the ear? Yeah, like you.
Speaker 1: If the trees are fifty feet, if the.
Speaker 2: Tree is fifty feet the average three fifty feet, you're
Speaker 2: like forty sixty feet. You can see the tops of them, sure,
Speaker 2: but you see that they're not the same tops. I
Speaker 2: think people will look at it like who came around
Speaker 2: and knocked the tops off of all those trees that
Speaker 2: aren't as tall as that one? And the perception really
Speaker 2: is more accurately, what caused that tree to grow taller
Speaker 2: than that one?
Speaker 1: You know, you think that's the perception from who?
Speaker 2: I think that's the current. Like that's the times perception
Speaker 2: of in America of wealthy spirity, Like like the culture
Speaker 2: now looks at it as though all the trees were
Speaker 2: sixty feet and then someone came and hacked the tops
Speaker 2: off of like ninety percent of them down to forty
Speaker 2: five feet. Reality is the other ones grew taller.
Speaker 1: I don't know they might even start it taller.
Speaker 2: Trees don't start taller, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It depends, like even coming into America, it's a different
Speaker 1: set of trees. Like right, it's like slavery is not
Speaker 1: even two hundred years old, right, Like it's not that old. Right,
Speaker 1: this is not that old. And you like, because I
Speaker 1: don't think, I don't even want to have a conversation.
Speaker 1: I hate about Like I get the concept of the
Speaker 1: wealth disparity, wealth gap, That's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about simple things like the American dreams that
Speaker 1: we sold, I mean American dream that we sold out right,
Speaker 1: which was like a place like Compton. Well, I know,
Speaker 1: it's like the people crazy and they so a place
Speaker 1: like Compton or a place like let's say like Herssey,
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania where John his name is John Hershey. They made
Speaker 1: Hershey company. I think it's name is John Hershey. Hershey.
Speaker 2: So, just out of curiosity, I had noticed at at
Speaker 2: the end of one of the famous Zapp and Roger songs,
Speaker 2: he was talking about chocolate cities, and he didn't mention
Speaker 2: Hershey Pennsylvania. Why is that.
Speaker 1: I have no fucking idea. I don't think they're talking
Speaker 1: about the same chocolate.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: So, Milton Hershey, you might be right, Milton Hershey. Right.
Speaker 1: So Milton Hershey created the town that we know. It's Hershey, Pennsylvania, right,
Speaker 1: And this was kind of the traditional American idea. He
Speaker 1: had a great idea that he built factory and then
Speaker 1: he wanted people to come work, and he had people
Speaker 1: come work, and instead of having him drive miles away,
Speaker 1: he built the town to support you know, he built
Speaker 1: the town to master the economy right where people could
Speaker 1: move into these houses and shot play and work there.
Speaker 1: That's Compton. Was the same thing. Like if you look
Speaker 1: down Alameda on Compton and Compton right, all these factories
Speaker 1: right now, I was talking to a politician. Hey, what
Speaker 1: she was telling me that it was grandfathered in that
Speaker 1: I think forty to fifty percent of the people who
Speaker 1: worked at these factories were supposed to live in these houses.
Speaker 1: And I think that was the simplistic idea of America.
Speaker 1: And it was a brilliant idea. Right you people used
Speaker 1: to walk to work, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: what I think happened specifically in canter right as black
Speaker 1: people started to move to Compton out. It's probably a
Speaker 1: really crazy idea that they started moving there. It's something
Speaker 1: that we don't know about because they moved there and grow,
Speaker 1: but you know, and then white folks start moving out, right,
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner families in the world start moving out.
Speaker 2: Well, they had to move out for the black people
Speaker 2: to move in because the vacancies had to be created.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I think they were also building at that time.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think so well, And this is the thing it
Speaker 2: because like I only said it because like we've talked
Speaker 2: about a hundred times. Sure, my grandparents lived in all
Speaker 2: those same houses. They ain't built nothing new.
Speaker 1: But then what is older than Compton?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like not by a lot.
Speaker 1: And really what.
Speaker 2: Late sixties, early late fifties, early sixties was when black
Speaker 2: people start to come to South California.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had been around so remember they couldn't
Speaker 1: they couldn't remember, they couldn't really be around, right, because
Speaker 1: they did have a little pockets right the place in Venice.
Speaker 1: What's that dog down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, those old big apartments.
Speaker 1: Like one of the oldest places black people moved. So
Speaker 1: black people came to southern California before that, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they could get in the the aries like
Speaker 1: they was in Dogtown.
Speaker 2: They were in it was the fifties. That's when the fifties.
Speaker 2: When in the fifties, And that's why like the difference between.
Speaker 1: Well the projects was wasn't first for remember that was
Speaker 1: for the war people. No Jordan Downzelea.
Speaker 2: Most of the expansions of products was for black people,
Speaker 2: and black people were good a paper. This is a
Speaker 2: little story people. I don't think know about La Sure
Speaker 2: below the pueblos is that's black projects is below all
Speaker 2: the ones what do they call it? The I thought
Speaker 2: they called it also like dog Town or something like that.
Speaker 2: The projects by Chinatown and and then like Big Hazard
Speaker 2: and the Strata courts and all those ones th was
Speaker 2: are on Mexican Yeah, as I looked, I mean I
Speaker 2: at least for what I read the they built all
Speaker 2: those ones up there and didn't allow black people to
Speaker 2: apply because apparently black people were very good at paperwork
Speaker 2: compared to Mexicans.
Speaker 1: So the Jordan Downs first open in May nineteen forty four.
Speaker 1: The complex was originally developed as a semi permanent housing
Speaker 1: for war workers during World War Two. In the early
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, Hacla Damn that still around converted it to
Speaker 1: public housing. It was among the last of the public
Speaker 1: housing projects and was to be open for that purpose.
Speaker 1: It opened in nineteen fifty five, shortly after new Mayor
Speaker 1: Norris Pulsen ended all new public housing in the city. Development,
Speaker 1: like others in the area, became partially integrated. However, its
Speaker 1: tendency its Tennessee rapidly became majority black, approaching one hundred
Speaker 1: percent by the mid nineteen sixties. This rapid change occurred
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. Many of the veterans who
Speaker 1: still lived in the projects in the early nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: moved out as they were able to purchase homes. Blacks
Speaker 1: still migrating west after the war ended gravitated excuse me,
Speaker 1: Blacks still migrating west after the war gravitated towards areas
Speaker 1: like Watts that already had sizeable back populations. In addition,
Speaker 1: at least in the first decade of the post war period,
Speaker 1: restrictive covenants helped channel recent migrants into Watts and away
Speaker 1: from nearby suburban cities such as Compton.
Speaker 2: Sure yeah so no, No, what I think a lot
Speaker 2: of the real initial challenges for black people in LA
Speaker 2: was the fact that they, bluntly speaking, they just got
Speaker 2: there later.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 2: Like the economic explosion that happened on the West coast,
Speaker 2: like from like nineteen forty three or four, whenever the
Speaker 2: Pacific theater machine really really ramped up, they weren't there yet. Sure,
Speaker 2: So by the time that wave crested and crashed, then
Speaker 2: they got there.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: So that's there's a big difference. And that's a huge
Speaker 2: difference in twenty years.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, especially around that time. But the Mexicans were
Speaker 1: here then before then, yea, because the first was crazy
Speaker 1: is the first street gang in LA that's credited Obviously
Speaker 1: that's not white people would be white fence Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been around.
Speaker 2: Since like the thirties, and it was fun. I had
Speaker 2: to look it up too, because I was such a square.
Speaker 2: But when you get off of the one on one
Speaker 2: at Normandy because to me, fourteen means up north. Sure,
Speaker 2: I kept seeing C fourteen, C fourteen all over the place.
Speaker 2: Is this I'm like, because you can go to the
Speaker 2: north and see thirteens. You don't come to the south
Speaker 2: fourteen that's.
Speaker 1: Not happening now once you pass Fresh No, that ain't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, I know that is not
Speaker 2: what I am seeing. So I google what's CE fourteen
Speaker 2: as a KYA fourteen and you know under like you
Speaker 2: know where the blue line turns? Sure above Washington. Apparently
Speaker 2: that fourteenth Street was one of the was all like
Speaker 2: one of the very also original gangs like zoot Suit
Speaker 2: during gang and they the city was so vexed by
Speaker 2: the Fourteenth Street Gang that they cleared them out and
Speaker 2: rezoned their neighborhood industrial so that they couldn't live there.
Speaker 2: So KAYE fourteen became a nomadic gang, but they retained
Speaker 2: the name.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I know a couple of those most
Speaker 1: gangs is gonna be like that in twenty years, I mean,
Speaker 1: if they're still gangs. But I guess the point I
Speaker 1: was making is I mean, even the whole concept of
Speaker 1: the wealth gap is it's just different. Man, if you
Speaker 1: you have to really just believe that they're still a
Speaker 1: letble of you know what I mean, Like you niggas
Speaker 1: ain't finna get no money. It's just kind of how
Speaker 1: to go and even certain things because I agree, like
Speaker 1: as Americans started selling the country out as a whole,
Speaker 1: oh right, to you know, they didn't want to build
Speaker 1: everything no more they want to People got greedier. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the correct way to put it,
Speaker 1: but to me, that's what it's about. People got greedier
Speaker 1: right where they started building everything overseas for cheaper.
Speaker 2: They didn't get greater. They got lazier. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean the workers, I mean the leaders. Sure you got
Speaker 2: to a point where you had a generation of innovators
Speaker 2: that created an explosion of growth in the US and constum.
Speaker 2: Those were not people who got MBA's at Ivy League schools,
Speaker 2: That's true, they were really they were replaced not by
Speaker 2: innovators but by managers. What do managers know how to do?
Speaker 2: Very little? They know how to do one thing, cut cost.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to come up with a new idea.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to streamline this better. What can
Speaker 2: we do cut cost We gotta our projections for next
Speaker 2: year got to be better than they were for last year.
Speaker 2: We can't make any more profit unless we cut costs,
Speaker 2: because we can't put out a product that is innovative
Speaker 2: enough to justify raising the price. We got to hold
Speaker 2: the price, compete against that guy and cut costs. What's
Speaker 2: that guy doing the same old dumb ass shit we're doing.
Speaker 2: He's cutting costs. So we got to cut cost so
Speaker 2: we can have our margin and not get priced out
Speaker 2: of the marketplace by that guy and have no new ideas.
Speaker 2: There's no innovation, no growth, no nothing. All they can
Speaker 2: do is figure out a way to get it done
Speaker 2: cheap or elsewhere. That's a huge problem in the US economy.
Speaker 1: So Ray crockm Ray Kroc. Who's Ray Krock, guy who
Speaker 1: took over mcdonnald's from Ray mac Ray and Mac when
Speaker 1: Ray is Richard and Maurice makes.
Speaker 2: That would have been the guy who has played in
Speaker 2: that movie by Michael Keaton. Yes, no, he was an innovator.
Speaker 1: What the fuck did he innovate? He wasn't no fucking innovator.
Speaker 1: He was a fucking manager. He literally cut all the
Speaker 1: costs He's reason why all the burgers tastes like shit.
Speaker 1: He's the reason why the fucking drink is made out
Speaker 1: of powdered milkshake. He's the reason that quality goes down
Speaker 1: the drain.
Speaker 2: Sure, the quality went down the drain, but the business
Speaker 2: growth didn't grow down the drain. He streamlined the system,
Speaker 2: and he system to the streamlined. He didn't out, he
Speaker 2: didn't say, he didn't walk into a bunch of He
Speaker 2: didn't find a mature entity, a mature thing and start
Speaker 2: taking people out of it.
Speaker 1: Of course it did. He took the owners who understood
Speaker 1: quality and what made the business thrive. Right, he understood
Speaker 1: the quality of the business was so high that he
Speaker 1: could shrink it down further and further to allow it
Speaker 1: to spread.
Speaker 2: Like, but but it did though, So what like what
Speaker 2: how many people did McDonald's employ when he got there
Speaker 2: versus when he left?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also depends on like like right, it's like.
Speaker 2: Like in comparison to Ford during the time when McDonald's
Speaker 2: employed one hundred x in a growth curve. Oh sure
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, I'm saying I'm sorry a hundreds
Speaker 1: said hundred times. I'minking I'm talking about the first time,
Speaker 1: so I'm saying go ahead. I'm saying it wasn't as many,
Speaker 1: so yeah, he took it ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so more locations, more employees, more.
Speaker 1: Or whatever at the expensive quality.
Speaker 2: Though sure Ford also with the expensive quality reduce their
Speaker 2: employment in America.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but I think it's it's kind of the
Speaker 1: same thing. I understand the concept of employment in America,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what we're talking about, right, somebody
Speaker 1: like Ford, So you feel like that's the responsible. Some
Speaker 1: asshole just came in like this is how we're gonna
Speaker 1: maximize profit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. I mean it's rampant throughout all sorts
Speaker 2: of verticals of commerce.
Speaker 1: And you think this is because uh the Ford, Henry
Speaker 1: Ford was like he was pretty much done and this
Speaker 1: is somebody taking over. Yeah, because like what happened to
Speaker 1: make because what's happening with in and Out could be
Speaker 1: happening with McDonald's. But because again they went after kind
Speaker 1: of the global look at the expense of having something
Speaker 1: that benefit human beings to it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be You're right, I can't be too hasty because it
Speaker 1: does employ American people and people around the world. But
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. I think when we keep
Speaker 1: exchanging quality right for the sake of growth, and I
Speaker 1: think that's still triggered by greed.
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the kind of growth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what you know, because by the saying standard,
Speaker 1: like the person who made the move for four could
Speaker 1: be considered a global hero, right because they created more
Speaker 1: opportunities in China, created more opportunities in Mexico and everywhere
Speaker 1: else except America.
Speaker 2: We brought more people out of poverty in China than
Speaker 2: our breathing air in America.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: That happened, for sure, you know. So, yeah, it all
Speaker 2: does depend to scale, you know. And I was talking
Speaker 2: about the other day with somebody, like, if you were
Speaker 2: to say the square this average square footage of an
Speaker 2: average house and an average town and an average income,
Speaker 2: the triangulate all the averages you can find on that
Speaker 2: house in nineteen fifty eight, you know, the arrow and everything.
Speaker 2: Everybody had everything. Whatever the fuck there was family of
Speaker 2: four or five, you know, whatever it was with one
Speaker 2: small house and one car and one TV. Now that
Speaker 2: experience is three cars, fives, four cell phones, internet cable,
Speaker 2: all this sudden shit TV was freeze the radio. I
Speaker 2: mean there's like, I don't know what, what's what's the
Speaker 2: note on on whatever the fuck house on a three
Speaker 2: hundred fifty thousand dollars house in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's probably a mansion in Indianapolis. I mean the
Speaker 1: note is probably I don't know, twenty eight six twenty six.
Speaker 1: We did right there about twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Something like that. I mean, if you start adding in
Speaker 2: more cars and cell phones and internet and cable and
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck else, that those numbers almost match.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, what are you saying?
Speaker 2: I'm saying, there's two things happening simultaneously.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 2: An increase in the standard expectation that has.
Speaker 1: A standard of existent living.
Speaker 2: The standard of living expectation has outpaced like on you
Speaker 2: in the median side has has outpaced median income by
Speaker 2: a lot, Like the price I just saw a price
Speaker 2: breakdown by an economist of like the time price to
Speaker 2: buy a house now, I mean the amount of hours
Speaker 2: of work that you could buy at a again median
Speaker 2: income for median house. The house has grown, So you're
Speaker 2: getting a better, bigger house for less hours work today
Speaker 2: than was required to do so in like nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: right from a price per square foot standpoint.
Speaker 1: Sure, even though it's a piece of shit house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only one, the new one is, the old
Speaker 2: one is. But the piece of shit built in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one is better than a piece of shit built
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm an handle that one. But that's yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you go look because the house built nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty one's on Pyruin Central. Those houses knocked down, you
Speaker 2: tip mo if you hit them hard enough.
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's some pretty ship The moths are some
Speaker 1: ship ones right there. They built them upfuers out of brick.
Speaker 2: Oh they didn't bring Those houses are built out of
Speaker 2: dry wall. And as best us, you die a living
Speaker 2: in one of those houses.
Speaker 1: That's a push. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: But anyhow, the difference is also everything I said before.
Speaker 2: The regular costs to do everything else are three hundred
Speaker 2: a month for your family's cell phone bills, even seven
Speaker 2: eight USand dollars for a month.
Speaker 1: That's a push though, because you're saying without the electives
Speaker 1: of life, the extra then it said, would be livable.
Speaker 1: Fuck no, let me ask this, okay, because okay, let's
Speaker 1: let's go back to that same house. Let's let's go
Speaker 1: to a house in Indianapolis right now, where would there
Speaker 1: even be a mass place to work to earn twenty
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2: A month is nothing, that's thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: That's something like where the fuck are you gonna get
Speaker 1: thirty thousand? McDonald's barely pay thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Do it even pay thirty thousand dollars a year? What
Speaker 1: is McDonald's minum wage? Fifteen dollars an hour?
Speaker 2: Fifteen times forty.
Speaker 1: Six hundred, six hundred, twelve hundred. What you bringing on
Speaker 1: a fifty Everybody in the house got to work to
Speaker 1: pay that bill. That's shit crazy, Like okay, right, if
Speaker 1: it's fifteen dollars times forty, that's six hundred times two
Speaker 1: to twenty.
Speaker 2: But that's but you're mismatching. Now, that's like a median
Speaker 2: house in the area versus the most the one percentile income.
Speaker 2: Your median income is like fifty.
Speaker 1: Right, median income is fifty. Average income is.
Speaker 2: Fifty to a median house to match the meeting, but.
Speaker 1: Where is the median income fifty thousand dollars at who
Speaker 1: the fuck is making fit. And this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: back to the original point that I'm saying, like there
Speaker 1: is nowhere to work in it. Okay, think about how
Speaker 1: few jobs is in the community, right, Like, I know
Speaker 1: you've been around a little bit, you know what's up.
Speaker 1: The jobs to me that make that kind of money
Speaker 1: are the jobs that are not there anymore. I mean, right, So,
Speaker 1: if you didn't go to school, you didn't go to college, right,
Speaker 1: Lord knows if you could afford college. But if you
Speaker 1: didn't go to college, how the fuck do you make
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year? Sixty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Trained jobs make more than that what trained.
Speaker 1: Jobs is available.
Speaker 2: If you pull up, this is what we're saying.
Speaker 1: This is Ford left the country.
Speaker 2: This is well, I mean, like right now there is
Speaker 2: a massive drought for a lot of basic skilled labor electricians, plumbers,
Speaker 2: all that kind of shit, mechanics, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It said, that's that's it. That's it's a shortage for.
Speaker 2: Sure, major shortage, nationally rich, regional so like. And the
Speaker 2: thing I think with Watts almost give credit WATS is
Speaker 2: transiend in nineteen seventy WATS was like seventy five percent
Speaker 2: black and twenty five percent Mexican. Now it's the other
Speaker 2: way around. So less black people were fucking the Mexicans
Speaker 2: came out.
Speaker 1: People left, Nah, they got priced out. They didn't just leave.
Speaker 1: The prices really start slipping up, probably in the in
Speaker 1: the late two thousands. I remember that, Like I remember
Speaker 1: growing up right, hustling, selling drugs and shit. You buy
Speaker 1: a house in Watch for fifty thousand.
Speaker 2: What what year would you say Watts stopped being seventy
Speaker 2: percent black?
Speaker 1: Probably too well, that changed, But I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why that changed.
Speaker 2: I'm only using the race thing because to identify.
Speaker 1: You, not even race, because Mexicans wouldn't be a race,
Speaker 1: that'd just be white people.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying because if it was all black people,
Speaker 2: I couldn't keep track of who's moving in and out.
Speaker 1: Sure, Uh, probably became fifty to fifty in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four.
Speaker 2: Like nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: I don't know tistically.
Speaker 2: I don't think the census numbers.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I don't even think
Speaker 1: that's true because the projects wasn't fifty to fifty. Projects
Speaker 1: wasn't fifty fifty in nineteen ninety for sure.
Speaker 2: No, but but I do.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when I saw it was fifty five,
Speaker 1: well I looked and I was on the seven and
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the people in the house at this
Speaker 1: point was Mexican. Now this is probably twenty nineteen, nine nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand. I'm looking like, Okay, every
Speaker 1: other house is somebody from Mexico or somebody else that
Speaker 1: speaks Spanish.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's that's about a generation. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: But but what happened is, right, is as the houses
Speaker 1: started to change pricing. It wasn't like people just left
Speaker 1: and then people moved in, right, Like some people left
Speaker 1: because they felt like there was no opportunity. Sure, right,
Speaker 1: so there's like, let me go get some opportunity, and
Speaker 1: then I do agree. Right, you may have had somebody
Speaker 1: that you know from you know, Mexico and below, you know,
Speaker 1: South America moving in multiple families.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just kids from Mexican parents in
Speaker 2: Long Beach shouldn't have shit else going on, or had
Speaker 2: a shittier job, and they moved to watch because they
Speaker 2: just could afford it to watch.
Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah. It was people who didn't even speak English. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was definitely people you know, coming across and ship
Speaker 1: and getting those properties. But see, it didn't used to
Speaker 1: be like now when I'm in the sixties, it's fifty percent. Yeah, See,
Speaker 1: wats has always been hell of multicultural, Like even if
Speaker 1: it was seventy five to twenty five, it probably was
Speaker 1: a little bit more than that because I could always
Speaker 1: remember when I'm at my dad house, Mexican people being there.
Speaker 1: Like I think my older homies may remember a time
Speaker 1: or Watch was like one hundred percent, but I ain't
Speaker 1: never in my life. So the East Side has always
Speaker 1: been my grandma friends of black family in the thirties
Speaker 1: and they wasn't even a black family the people for
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 2: And Watch is right next to the South gates, so
Speaker 2: that's natural exactly.
Speaker 1: So something else is happening, Pete, Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's as simple as people are moving out and other
Speaker 1: people are moving in. I think there is a target.
Speaker 1: I think there's a reason people move here, right, And
Speaker 1: it's like with gentrification, right, there's a there's a mass
Speaker 1: movement of people. Like it's not as simple as like,
Speaker 1: oh you know what people like. Like even when I
Speaker 1: was in Content the other day, I went to a
Speaker 1: cook's corner. I think that's the name of the barbecue spot.
Speaker 1: Got the name of the barbecue spot, but that's not
Speaker 1: the barbecue.
Speaker 2: Remember I brought a bunch of barbecue comptent up here
Speaker 2: at one time.
Speaker 1: I don't know was it was. It was. It was
Speaker 1: it at a Dolley truck.
Speaker 2: There was a little a small, little restaurant. It was
Speaker 2: almost I think it was near a churches.
Speaker 1: Like this place is fire. Oh hold on, we call
Speaker 1: this motherfucker Mannica. Oh up, we.
Speaker 2: Can't call in a barbecue address. In the middle of
Speaker 2: the podcast, everybody to stop us.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna fucking stop us?
Speaker 2: This is the most important thing we're gonna talk about,
Speaker 2: exact opinion, quite frankly, exactly.
Speaker 1: I need to know about this je Manny Manny from
Speaker 1: as Boys fucking worldwide. What's the name of that barbecue
Speaker 1: spot in Compton you sent me to That was really good?
Speaker 1: That got the big dinosaur ribs in Compton. Oh, kitchen corner,
Speaker 1: kitchen corner a dry back. So I I was in
Speaker 1: k I was. I went to kitchen Corner the other
Speaker 1: day and I look and really now, like you're right,
Speaker 1: Compton is probably like you know, Compton for sure would
Speaker 1: be like eighty percent. But I think that's the problem, right.
Speaker 1: I think what's happening is is there's a gentrification, right,
Speaker 1: a thing happening. These These are conversations that's happening, even
Speaker 1: if we're not a part of them, Like even if
Speaker 1: they're not mainstream conversations, if everybody don't know about the conversations,
Speaker 1: these conversations, Pete, is happening and these places are being
Speaker 1: targeted specifically for certain moves of economic growth, like even
Speaker 1: a gentrification plan that's not an accident.
Speaker 2: I'll talk about that's on the buyer side. You're not
Speaker 2: gonna want to hear it.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I'll preface it with a quote from Jamaica Andrea usually
Speaker 2: because he came from Jamaica in the in the country
Speaker 2: and was in the Bronx, and he's very critical, as
Speaker 2: a lot of people from the islands are when they
Speaker 2: come to the States. He would say, you know, I
Speaker 2: can always tell what houses the Jamaican's wearing in the Bronx.
Speaker 2: How's that because the lawn was cut and they had
Speaker 2: flowers in the front yard. That's his words, not mine.
Speaker 1: But the I get it, I get it right. Because
Speaker 1: even even though that's a bit ridiculous, but I get
Speaker 1: what he's says. Yeah, it's sure, Sure, it's a loose
Speaker 1: and it's a loose idea. It's a loose concept because
Speaker 1: there's black people who manicure their nons. But I know
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Yeah, But also it's different. You
Speaker 1: come from a fucking third world country, right, and then
Speaker 1: you come to Compton or you come to the Bronx,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like when people say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Mexican people come to Los Angeles, and it's like they like,
Speaker 1: they go, do nigga. They come from somewhere. Nigga's no
Speaker 1: roofs on the property. They come from somewhere. It's like
Speaker 1: a different level of poverty. So even at that starting point,
Speaker 1: it's still better than where they started at. It ain't
Speaker 1: like we're getting the It ain't like the Wildens people
Speaker 1: from Jamaica's coming here. But that's not that matters point.
Speaker 2: But I mean, at the same time, you also if
Speaker 2: you came from nineteen fifties rural Mississippi or rural Louisiana,
Speaker 2: that's like modern day Jamaica poor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those people come and that's why if you
Speaker 1: look at certain houses in one eleven, one eleven is
Speaker 1: uh or how would I reference that to you? Imperial?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Imperial and van is those houses uh Compton. If you
Speaker 1: go to those older people houses that came from the south,
Speaker 1: look at their fucking house. They have those manicure lines,
Speaker 1: the grass they are, but them ain't. That ain't the
Speaker 1: same house that Jamaican Andre and their family had in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: They ain't had no fucking lines manicured and no motherfucking
Speaker 1: flowers over there, just like the people in Mexico that
Speaker 1: come here, right, the homies and shit different people I
Speaker 1: fuck with, They didn't have fucking manicured lines and flowers
Speaker 1: in fucking Mexico.
Speaker 2: In Vaness, it's not that far different people from like
Speaker 2: Danker and one hundred and third.
Speaker 1: Danker and one hundred and third, dank one hundred third,
Speaker 1: like one of the hood.
Speaker 2: Streets and the hundreds. That's pretty damn.
Speaker 1: Close a one hundred and third. But it is different,
Speaker 1: right because if you okay, I agree, right, because okay,
Speaker 1: I see you're talking about Yeah, so some of those people,
Speaker 1: all of those people aren't the people that came here
Speaker 1: originally and bought those houses, right, some of those people
Speaker 1: if you look at certain houses on those blocks, right,
Speaker 1: Like if you go in the sixties, if you go
Speaker 1: on the hundreds and dinker in one hundred and third,
Speaker 1: is who is it?
Speaker 2: I think that's like Hoover, that's hundreds, that danker between
Speaker 2: Western and Normandy.
Speaker 1: I said, none is that fot? Yeah? Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the hundreds. Wait a minute, man, that's wes Okay,
Speaker 1: one eleven. If you go to those houses, right, you
Speaker 1: go to any of those houses, it's going to be
Speaker 1: people that own that property since the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 1: That's why it looks like that. It's not the children,
Speaker 1: it's not the people who ended up on crack. It's
Speaker 1: not none of those people. Because remember these neighborhoods were
Speaker 1: all nice at a time unless somebody parents was going
Speaker 1: through it. But it's a hard competition to compete with
Speaker 1: somebody who comes from a third world country and then
Speaker 1: has opportunity at this. Even how they look at it
Speaker 1: is completely different. How they see it is completely different,
Speaker 1: Like like what's going on in watch right now? Ever
Speaker 1: since they sold the projects, you started to see white people.
Speaker 1: You in comp you started to see Asian people. I
Speaker 1: remember the only Asian people in the Compton. Dog was
Speaker 1: one of the projects they saw. I know, right, it's
Speaker 1: some crazy shit.
Speaker 2: Oh with like the little mall over there.
Speaker 1: No, they sold the projects.
Speaker 2: To who it's the new Jordan Down developments.
Speaker 1: No, it's you gotta look it up. It's some crazy shit, right.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying even when you're on crensyall right, like
Speaker 1: where where the low riders park at on the boulevard,
Speaker 1: Like with a woman situation, I've seen a man, a
Speaker 1: white man, running his dog with little shorts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So again it's these are not like, oh you know what,
Speaker 1: let me find somewhere to move. I'm gonna go down here.
Speaker 2: I mean it's ten times worse than like the north
Speaker 2: side avenues that like twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Ago were like the side nees. What's the north side
Speaker 1: like you know, like Mount Washington.
Speaker 2: If you go up the one ten north of downtown,
Speaker 2: you get like at like North Avenue forty three.
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about like neor Pasadena. That that part
Speaker 1: of La. Yeah, that's not passing, but that part LA
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's like it was hood as fuck up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that been gentrified for a good twenty years now.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's like, it's like that, it's
Speaker 2: you know, saying from a time span standpoint, it's like.
Speaker 1: You know, but I think all generation has sure. But
Speaker 1: I digress. I think the point I'm saying is it
Speaker 1: makes it when we don't take care of each other
Speaker 1: as a society, right, Like Americans don't take care of
Speaker 1: Americans as a society. Right. This is where you have
Speaker 1: those problems. The fact that bel Air is right there
Speaker 1: and this is right here, right, that's what fucks it up.
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes people even more crazy than everything.
Speaker 1: How could somebody be ten miles and a half into
Speaker 1: hardly too much somebody ten miles have entirely not enough.
Speaker 1: That's just fucking crazy, Pete. Now, I think it was
Speaker 1: even the concept of the wealth gap, right. I think
Speaker 1: Henry Ford was an innovator. I do think, you know,
Speaker 1: Milton Herstey was an innovator. But they cared about other
Speaker 1: human beings to some degree, even when it came in
Speaker 1: America to see their dreams.
Speaker 2: Because the builder is that guy like that's that's one
Speaker 2: of my top criticisms of I'm not saying one of
Speaker 2: my top this is gonna sound wrong, but from an
Speaker 2: economic in the economic conversation, sure, the problem in the
Speaker 2: economic conversation, just so we're clear with slavery was most
Speaker 2: innovation and growth comes from hands on workers.
Speaker 1: Right, that's fair. The way you could take more cotton,
Speaker 1: you pick more cotton you have to get or you're
Speaker 1: working on the machine, had plantation, no shit.
Speaker 2: But if you have the freedom to implement an idea
Speaker 2: to make something happen more efficiently, that's going to happen
Speaker 2: from the person who's doing it all day long. It's
Speaker 2: not going to happen from another guy, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Ninety nine percent of the time, I agree.
Speaker 2: So that's why you see, like the South was sparse
Speaker 2: concentrations of ultra wealth and then mass poverty, and in
Speaker 2: the aggregate, the South was way more poor than the
Speaker 2: North because there had wealthy people. Yeah, because their whole
Speaker 2: working class of people that was slaves were not allowed
Speaker 2: to implement human thought. So they're just doing work frozen
Speaker 2: like cryogenically frozen in time.
Speaker 1: Sure, if they how they started, how they had to finish.
Speaker 2: If you had, however, many million people working on a
Speaker 2: task in an industry commercial vertical for fifty years in
Speaker 2: year fifty year one, that industry wouldn't even resemble itself.
Speaker 1: Sure, normally, but usually you would have took the you
Speaker 1: have took how to make it happen faster when there's people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some guy would work at a place, he'd go,
Speaker 2: you know, they're slow at this. I can do it better.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go across the street, start a small shop,
Speaker 2: do it faster, build and compete against them. Or they
Speaker 2: would just implement the thing, get a raise, whatever the fuck,
Speaker 2: and shit just happens. I mean, there's no there's not
Speaker 2: an example in which that's not really true, even agriculture now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying, what's the point of even doing
Speaker 1: it with slavery. I'm sure some of the slaves came
Speaker 1: up with better ideas, but I guess like you might
Speaker 1: be getting too many ideas, nigg You might think you
Speaker 1: can be free nicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know how many of them are
Speaker 2: gonna say, oh, hey, uncle Bill, this is a faster
Speaker 2: way to do this. Yeah. Well, I'm saying, yeah, Bill
Speaker 2: runs the place. You're Bill's nephew, Uncle Bill. I got
Speaker 2: an idea, what if you do this? Where'd you come
Speaker 2: with that idea? Oh? That slave guy over there top
Speaker 2: that he's smarter than you. Probably not going to have
Speaker 2: that conversation.
Speaker 1: M So it has to be something as simple as greed.
Speaker 1: It cannot just be.
Speaker 2: There's there's a problem. There is an inherent just one thing.
Speaker 2: There's an inherent issue with the arc of like wealth
Speaker 2: growth when.
Speaker 1: It goes from you know what happened, and I'm not
Speaker 1: to cut you off. Wealth went from just wealth used
Speaker 1: to be more than just money. It used to be
Speaker 1: like a connection to community, a connection to humanity, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like back in the day, it
Speaker 1: was wealth meant more than just I have in time
Speaker 1: too much money. It also meant I had the affection
Speaker 1: of human beings.
Speaker 2: It was tied to productivity. You know what the largest
Speaker 2: do you is.
Speaker 1: Ford really not still producing or is it just productivity
Speaker 1: based off between them Ford Motor.
Speaker 2: Co Company, Inc. And for the guy, sure, guy running
Speaker 2: for a CEO. Now I'm not named for it. Sure
Speaker 2: I don't have to even even have to look at it. No,
Speaker 2: but like talk about like you know what the biggest
Speaker 2: industry in the world is currency exchange.
Speaker 1: Currency exchange make the most money with the money is
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if they make the most money, but it's seven
Speaker 2: trillion dollars plus per day in global currency exchange. That's
Speaker 2: not production. Hiring somebody to come in and be hiring
Speaker 2: a room of five hundred analysts to scrutinize where you
Speaker 2: can save a nickel. That's not production. Paying somebody half
Speaker 2: a million dollars a year to be in house counsel
Speaker 2: to stave off some sort of stupid whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: slip and fall lawsuit that you're gonna face. For Christ
Speaker 2: knows what is not production. Being in some sort of
Speaker 2: private equity subsidized bizarre matrix where you're just running free
Speaker 2: money around because interest rates were one percent for twenty years,
Speaker 2: or because we've now subsidized big banks as being too
Speaker 2: big to fail so that they don't even understand risk
Speaker 2: components in the economy. There's no growth because there's no failure.
Speaker 2: You've subsidized failure out of existence. You have an enormous
Speaker 2: class of wealthy Americans that get money and produce nothing.
Speaker 2: That's the disconnect.
Speaker 1: How are these people getting more wealthy without producing anything? Today?
Speaker 2: Market manipulation, you don't think and hyperregulation. I mean, what
Speaker 2: do you do now, Like you're ex company and you're
Speaker 2: now the biggest company in your field in America or
Speaker 2: the world. What's your top priority. It's lobbying barriers of
Speaker 2: entry and barriers of competition from anybody else to knock
Speaker 2: you off the top. It's not trying to create a
Speaker 2: better product anymore.
Speaker 1: You pivot. Why do you pivot?
Speaker 2: Because you have new rooms of leaders who run out
Speaker 2: of ideas, but they don't want to lose their seat
Speaker 2: on the top of the mountain. So instead of you
Speaker 2: can't climb up any further, all you can do is
Speaker 2: prevent anybody else like that. That's the story. Like California
Speaker 2: right now makes sense. California matured into the fifth largest
Speaker 2: economy in the world by itself. You can't build sit here.
Speaker 2: Like how many people are billionaires in California from real
Speaker 2: estate development? That's like most other than the tech people
Speaker 2: who are also completely invested in an anti competitive environment.
Speaker 2: There's no competition for Apple, there's no competition for Google.
Speaker 2: And then take Donald Brinn of the Irvine Company out
Speaker 2: of Orange County or Caruso, the developer in La what
Speaker 2: do they do? They just lobby. They lobby for anything good. No,
Speaker 2: they lobby for exemptions and carve outs out of massive
Speaker 2: blanket regulations that prevent anybody from building anything except for them.
Speaker 2: That's why Caruso is always running for some sort of
Speaker 2: fucking office. That's why it is always in politics. Why
Speaker 2: you're always in politics. All you do is build shopping malls. Well,
Speaker 2: you can't build a shopping mall if you aren't in politics.
Speaker 2: Fuck part of the economy? Is that.
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