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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a

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Speaker 2: very special episode for you today with a guest we

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Speaker 2: talk about frequently but you may not formally have met yet,

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Speaker 2: my mom, Beth Qualtieri, also known as momm on this program.

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Speaker 2: This episode is going to be a little light because

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Speaker 2: you guys know that my mom cries over everything, so

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Speaker 2: we can't talk about anything too upsetting. So we're going

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Speaker 2: to get into starting We're going to start talking about

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Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson peeing her pants. I'm sure my mom can

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Speaker 2: relate to that, and then we'll talk about the dreaded

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Speaker 2: cruise she made us go on in some incidents that

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Speaker 2: happen on cruise ships this week. Then we'll get into

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Speaker 2: one of her favorite topics, which is butt sniffing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why I have a bad reputation.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. And then we'll discuss a rather morbid, unexpected finding

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Speaker 2: someone came across by looking for a new home, and

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Speaker 2: what happens when bodies and body parts get misplaced after

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Speaker 2: someone dies. All that and more on today's episode. Let's

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Speaker 2: get started with Jessica Simpson.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: So, Jessica Simpson performed on The Today Show last week,

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Speaker 3: and I guess during the performance at some point she.

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Speaker 2: Peed her pants. And this article is.

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Speaker 3: Acting like this is just totally normal behavior for performers.

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Speaker 3: I guess it makes sense for people who are on

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Speaker 3: I really thought about it.

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Speaker 1: I totally could see that happening because they have to

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Speaker 1: keep hydrated with all their activity on stage, and then

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's just got to come out.

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Speaker 2: This is what confuses me. I guess I saw some

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Speaker 2: of the video of her recording and I didn't see

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Speaker 2: any pee on her clothes. She was wearing a light

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Speaker 2: color dress, so are they wearing.

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Speaker 1: Well, the light color probably hid it, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's say if I was if I was a performer

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Speaker 3: Well, Hugh Jackman said this actually happened to him, and

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Speaker 3: he was saying, the muscles you need to release in

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Speaker 3: order to sing are the ones you do not want

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Speaker 3: to release. If you have to go. So I guess

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Speaker 3: if you really have to pee and you're in the middle,

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Speaker 3: it's just like if it we're doing, so we.

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Speaker 2: Know you have a problem with the opposite end of

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Speaker 2: coming out when you don't want it to. Have you

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Speaker 2: ever had a problem pee your pants accidentally?

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Speaker 1: No, I would say I to go through a period

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Speaker 1: like in my forties where if I sneezed or coughed

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Speaker 1: or you know, like that kind of thing, I would

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Speaker 1: get a little squirt here and there. But that has

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, did that get better after you had your hysterectomy.

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Speaker 1: Possibly it would fit the timeline. Yeah, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think it was thirty eight thirty nine when I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just curious because Jessica Simpson has three kids,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know if she had natural childbirth, but

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Speaker 2: she did go through three pregnancies, which can stress out

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Speaker 2: have urinary incontinence. I definitely think that I have this

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Speaker 2: for sure, because did I ever tell you, like, sometimes

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Speaker 2: we take the kids to go to the trampoline place,

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Speaker 2: and one time, I wouldn't get I like peed my

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. I probably still would today with a

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Speaker 2: It's so it's like a gross feeling, like this weird

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Speaker 2: you know, that ride like a water breaking. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: It's like really bizarre, right.

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Speaker 1: So, well, I drink a ton of water all say long,

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Speaker 2: Well, my kind of coologist told me once a couple

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Speaker 2: many times during the night, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: your father, we're I'm like a I'm like a cactus.

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Speaker 2: I always say this. I'm just like some plants need

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Speaker 2: But like a cactus, you might ignore for three months

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Speaker 2: and they're both living things, and I'm just in cactus.

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Speaker 1: Wait, well, I remember we used to call Deana Cammell

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Speaker 3: Wait, while we're on the subject of pop off, do

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Speaker 3: you have any funny stories really quick? Because on our

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Speaker 3: YouTube live on Friday, we started getting into some bluisms

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Speaker 3: and people really enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: The Oh my gosh, well did you tell him about

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Speaker 1: like his love his love notes to me? Where he'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look really young, but that's just to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if other people would think that or not,

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Speaker 2: I did tell them about the the him referring to beautiful,

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Speaker 1: It was his niece. He said she was the most

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, Jimmy, listen to this. It's your mother, Lyndy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, our cousin, Yeah, exactly, it's our cousin, Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: and it's his mom. Lenane is who she's talking about,

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Speaker 2: which is, well, we're going to see them next. We're

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Speaker 2: going to see them this weekend, right coming off? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so we could we could talk about this over the

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, we were.

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Speaker 2: We were also we were What else did he say?

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Speaker 2: That was just oh, the most the most beautiful green

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Speaker 1: Uncle, Yes, had the most beautiful green eyes he ever saw,

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Speaker 1: not yours. He also didn't know what color my eyes were,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that reminds me of an Elton John song.

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Speaker 2: Or actually, like he means, he means well, he.

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Speaker 1: Just I recently had lost some weight and he said, oh, you,

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Speaker 2: He's such a jert. I guess the funny part is

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Speaker 2: is that he he's like the sweetest guy ever, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: absolutely is not intending to hurt your feelings. He just

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Speaker 2: I feel like he han't see this thing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: can confirm you one hundred percent of the loop qualtery button.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get on to this next story and

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Speaker 2: we get start off because these next two stories actually

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Speaker 2: have to do with incidents that happen on a cruise.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you've been listening to our show,

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Speaker 2: how bad we've been hating on you for making us

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Speaker 2: go on.

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Speaker 1: That cruise, the Dreading Cruise.

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Speaker 3: I like months explain to everybody why you made us

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Speaker 3: go on that booth.

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Speaker 1: Well Wall, Neither Daddy or I are really like party people,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't really want to have a fiftieth anniversary,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me mentioned this as well, So we

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Speaker 2: So these next two stories involve a ship called Icon

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Speaker 1: It was we had to go, and it was to

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Speaker 3: Got she's such a complainer, she is.

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Speaker 2: And five days was a lot. Although I have I

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Speaker 1: So that was actually going home was the best part

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Speaker 2: Well, just there were a lot of parts that, like

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Speaker 3: Okay, so both these incidents happened on the Icon of

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Speaker 1: No I was on the Symphony of the Seas.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is on the Icon of the Seas.

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Speaker 3: So first, I saw this video last night, and I

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Speaker 3: it was a woman, but the reports you're saying it

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Speaker 3: Witnesses were saying he was doing a handstand in the

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Speaker 3: It looked like he fell overboard, but apparently he fell

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. You know, I thought that was a

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Speaker 3: Especially because they're dancing a goddam style and that song

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you know this or not, Maria,

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Speaker 3: They are always hooking up. They're always doing weird stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, I don't I guess the major

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where the hell he stabbed

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Speaker 1: Maybe they were just superficial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole I saw. I saw something about cruise ships.

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Speaker 1: It was a Columbo show and they did it all

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Speaker 2: Well do you know crime con does a crime cruise?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm kind of interested in it, I think because

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Speaker 3: Dizzy when we got home for two days because I

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Speaker 3: to the butt sniffer.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, this is a subject you're well versed in.

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Speaker 3: So a man who's been deemed a serial butt sniffer

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Speaker 3: later until he was.

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Speaker 1: You know, out of that whole story. That's what caught

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Speaker 2: Really weird fetish. I guess this guy has because he's

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think that's why he's a sex offender,

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Speaker 3: like who's doing this?

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Speaker 2: But a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Ago, this woman, I don't know if she was recording

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Speaker 1: Yeah news and that that's like a precursor for worse things.

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Speaker 3: Usually you know, well sniffing a discussion we could have too,

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Speaker 3: Like this person keeps getting arrested for doing these weird things,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's like lots of crazy stuff going

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Speaker 1: Too many people are out on the street that shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: don't know, Like I feel like if you're in the

439
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Speaker 2: store and someone was near me like that, Like I

440
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: won't even think that someone was trying to sniff my butt.

441
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Speaker 2: It's just like I wouldn't be like right, It is

442
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Speaker 2: very bizarre.

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Speaker 3: I also want to point out that the wife of

444
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Speaker 3: former Los Angeles Laker Robert Horri also he was this

445
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: guy over a decade ago of stalking their daughter. So

446
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: like he's been around for a while and people recognize him.

447
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: And when the TikTok went viral, a bunch of other

448
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: women said that they had definitely seen him doing weird

449
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: stuff out in public. Also, can we talk about his ears?

450
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Speaker 2: He he literally looks like Shrek. I was gonna say Shrek.

451
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Speaker 1: I didn't really look at his picture, you didn't notice

452
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: he's toy story.

453
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. He's a cross between Shrek or the alien

454
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: toy and toy stories like he looks like the prototype

455
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: they made a figure out of him.

456
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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm gonna have to pull this up to show

457
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Speaker 3: you to have your reaction, because this is like I

458
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Speaker 3: can't even.

459
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: Believe you didn't notice this. This is like the first

460
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Speaker 2: thing I noticed. I don't know if I'm more shocked

461
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Speaker 2: by the butt sniffing or this man's ears. I mean,

462
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: all I'm saying is I'm not pretty.

463
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Speaker 1: Mean snips with them.

464
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Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, maybe that if you red special power.

465
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not see that picture.

466
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Speaker 2: What happened?

467
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Speaker 1: It went here?

468
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Speaker 2: Clearly you weren't looking good enough because his ears are

469
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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe my mom's right, maybe he was

470
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Speaker 2: able to like smell out of them or something.

471
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Speaker 3: Also, he's really tall, Like that would scare the ship

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Speaker 3: out of me if I was in public and a

473
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Speaker 3: man was getting that close to me, just being that

474
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Speaker 3: much larger than me.

475
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Speaker 1: Trying to sniff your butt. He's not going to be

476
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Speaker 1: towering over.

477
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Speaker 2: The clear solution is to just fart and make him

478
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Speaker 2: go away, or he might get off on it.

479
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Speaker 3: More I would think he'd get off on the fart

480
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Speaker 3: because how are you sniffing butts and that he's actually

481
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Speaker 3: aroused by the smell.

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Speaker 2: I don't far if.

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Speaker 1: I saw the video on an airplane yesterday, people were

484
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: checking in and putting their suitcase up at all and

485
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Speaker 1: the guy farted and the guy next to him like

486
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Speaker 1: threw a holy fit having because the guy forwarded and

487
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Speaker 1: then the guy.

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Speaker 2: That's triggering it pisses you off and you're like, you're

489
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: an asshole. Like, obviously people slip by accident sometimes, but

490
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: to do that in a confined space like that, it's

491
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Speaker 2: just rude. It's it's rude.

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Speaker 3: Well, we had that story about that old man who

493
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Speaker 3: farted by accident in a line and he got punched

494
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Speaker 3: in the face, but we were justifying as saying he

495
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Speaker 3: was old. But if a regular person does it, you should.

496
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Speaker 2: Punch them in the face. You should encourage violence for

497
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Speaker 2: a far. But it does trigger it does that pisses

498
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Speaker 2: you off.

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Speaker 3: The far is equal violence and it requires retaliation. This

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Speaker 3: episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room guys.

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Speaker 2: This week in the Grosser Room, we had our first

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Speaker 2: for the members so they could really guide the way

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Speaker 2: a different format than our typical episodes. So I thought

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Speaker 2: it was fun. Didn't you think it was fun?

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Speaker 1: Ray?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 3: We talked about some other news stories that happened after

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Speaker 3: we recorded for the week, so it was nice to

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Speaker 3: get that information out asap. We got into some luisms.

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Speaker 3: We revealed our special guests for today's episodes, so you

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Speaker 3: guys get to hear kind of a different viewpoint of

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Speaker 3: what's going on behind the scenes and what's to come

522
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Speaker 3: in the following episodes. All right, So in North Carolina,

523
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: this person thought that this house was abandoned and they

524
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Speaker 3: wanted to buy it. So one day they're looking around

525
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Speaker 3: the property, it came across skeletal remains in the backyard.

526
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Speaker 3: I guess the question I have is if you think

527
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Speaker 3: a house is abandoned, could you just roam around freely?

528
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Speaker 2: Is that okay? Or I don't know.

529
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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure it's not. It's private property.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but like come on, I would do if

531
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that house looks really good. It

532
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Speaker 2: doesn't look like anyone's there, Like, let me go walk

533
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Speaker 2: around and see what's going on, Like I mean, people

534
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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: It's well, there's people that just do explorations of abandoned

536
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Speaker 1: mansions and schools and hospitals. I've seen videos.

537
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Speaker 2: All that all the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it ended up to be the

539
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Speaker 3: remains of this fifty year old man, which this makes

540
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Speaker 3: me really sad that he was dead for that long

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Speaker 3: and nobody reported him or anything. But they're thinking he

542
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: died from natural clauses. How did they know for sure

543
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Speaker 3: if he was mostly skeletonized, that he died from national clauses?

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Speaker 2: So first I want to say, they found this skeleton.

545
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: So when you find a dead body on a property

546
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Speaker 2: that had a name of a homeowner, it's easier to

547
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Speaker 2: identify them because even though they're skeletonized and you can't

548
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Speaker 2: do it by photo ID or even by something like

549
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Speaker 2: tattoos that might be present on the skin. You know

550
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Speaker 2: that the person that was living there, so that would

551
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Speaker 2: be the first thing that you look for. So you

552
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: could easily try to get the guy's dental records and

553
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 2: figure out who that is. And I'm assuming that's what

554
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: they did because they were able to identify them in

555
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Speaker 2: only two days, and if they had to take DNA

556
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Speaker 2: it would have taken much longer. Okay, So in that case,

557
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Speaker 2: they'll send the bones to the medical examiner's office and

558
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Speaker 2: they'll look at it to see if there's any kind

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Speaker 2: of reason to believe that there was like a suicide

560
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: by like a self inflicted gunshot wound. So you would

561
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: see evidence of trauma if someone beat them up, you

562
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: would see evidence of that on the bones, if there

563
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Speaker 2: were broken bones or anything like that. And so based

564
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Speaker 2: upon that and then them contacting that guy's family doctor,

565
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Speaker 2: they might have found out that he had like a

566
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Speaker 2: pre existing heart condition. That's how they come up with

567
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Speaker 2: like it probably was, but they'll do more of an investigation.

568
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Speaker 2: But it just wasn't obvious looking at his bones that

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Speaker 2: anything traumatic happened to him. He didn't fall, he didn't

570
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Speaker 2: get beat up, he didn't kill himself with a gun

571
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Speaker 2: stuff like that. You didn't see any stab wounds, so

572
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Speaker 2: that's that's how they would determine that. I think the

573
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Speaker 2: story is written a little weird because it's like potential

574
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Speaker 2: home buyer and you're thinking, like, okay, it was this

575
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Speaker 2: house for Salemi realiter dot com and this person just

576
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Speaker 2: like found a skeleton. But yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like this person was just trespassing on

578
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Speaker 3: a property.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, just like I'll take this house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happened at Louis's property up in the mountains.

581
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Speaker 1: The guy died in the art and the mailman found

582
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Speaker 1: him eventually.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and that happens. Yeah, I mean,

584
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Speaker 2: it happens, and it is sad that, but there's plenty

585
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Speaker 2: of people that live alone. I mean, think about the

586
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Speaker 2: same thing with the house in the mountains, Like nobody

587
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Speaker 2: reported that guy missing or dead, and he was pretty dead, right,

588
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Speaker 2: like he was in the snow or something. Was he

589
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Speaker 2: was dead, Yeah exactly. So I don't know. I just

590
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Speaker 2: I thought it was like a cool story because nobody's

591
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Speaker 2: really ever expecting to stumble upon something like that, and

592
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Speaker 2: it has to for you out a little bit.

593
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Speaker 1: Definitely scouting in the closet would have been a lot

594
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Speaker 1: more fun, though.

595
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been a better story.

596
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Speaker 3: That's definitely happened a couple of times, though, I feel

597
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Speaker 3: like we've even had stories like that on here.

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Speaker 2: We had I feel like we had a story fairly

599
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Speaker 2: recently that someone didn't someone find something in like a

600
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Speaker 2: wall or I don't really remember.

601
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Speaker 3: We had a horrible story about a girl that was found,

602
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Speaker 3: like a little girl found mummified in a closet.

603
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Speaker 2: H but I think the apartment was like abandoned. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay.

604
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Speaker 3: So a plane was headed from Istanbul to San Francisco,

605
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Speaker 3: but during the flight a person died, causing the flight

606
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Speaker 3: to divert to Chicago, and now the person's body is missing.

607
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Speaker 2: So I don't really know exactly what the procedure is,

608
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Speaker 2: but I know that there has to be some kind

609
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: of procedure. Apparently the person died in the air, but

610
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: wherever the plane lands would be the jurisdiction that would

611
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Speaker 2: take over the body. So in this case, they were

612
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Speaker 2: supposed to land in San Francisco, but they decided to

613
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Speaker 2: land a little bit closer in Chicago just to get

614
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Speaker 2: rid of the dead body and it was supposed to

615
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Speaker 2: go into the custody of the Cook County Medical Examiner.

616
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Speaker 2: And when they called the Cook County Medical Examiner to say, hey,

617
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Speaker 2: what's the deal with this body we sent you, they

618
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: say they have no record of ever receiving it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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Speaker 3: I also want to point out this weirdness because they

621
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Speaker 3: said the person was having a severe medical emergency, so

622
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: they were initially preparing to land in Iceland, but it

623
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Speaker 3: escalated and then that person died, So then they ended

624
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Speaker 3: up deciding to go to Chicago, which they called quote

625
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Speaker 3: a major international hub capable of handling emergency landings with

626
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Speaker 3: adequate medical support and facilities. Why wouldn't they land in Boston,

627
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: New York, Like there's so many more major airports, so

628
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: much closer.

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Speaker 2: Well, it has to do with wherever they thought it

630
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: would be quicker or more efficient to go to to

631
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Speaker 2: handle it. Like I understand, because you have to think

632
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: about that. You have a whole entire plane full of people,

633
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Speaker 2: and if you're going from Istanbul to San Francisco, the

634
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: last place you want to be is Iceland, right, So

635
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: if a person's dying in their life could be saved,

636
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: that's one thing. But if they weren't able to they

637
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: knew that the guy was going to die, they were like,

638
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: all right, well, let's at least get these people to America.

639
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Speaker 2: I mean honestly, like the difference between a flight to

640
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: Chicago to San Francisco might be another two hours additional

641
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Speaker 2: flight time or if not three, So I mean.

642
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Speaker 1: Yeah, wonder why they wouldn't just go in.

643
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because a dead body that's not in refrigeration

644
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: is decomposing, and like you can't you can't leave it

645
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: there like that, and it could have died three hours

646
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: before that, and like, you just can't have a body

647
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: not refrigerated like that because then you have other complications

648
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: with like you know, the person's decomposed, they can't have

649
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: a funeral, they can't do this whatever. It's even if

650
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: they're start decomposing and then they embalm them, they're still

651
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: going to be having a certain appearance that would not

652
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: be for a funeral, Yeah, like an open casket at least. Plus,

653
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: you don't want the people on the plane to be

654
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: further traumatized by the appearance of somebody that's decomposing. Because

655
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: on an airplane, like you could have the air conditioner on,

656
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: but it's room temperature. It's not a refrigerator, you know

657
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it's not it's not stopping that

658
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: decomposition for sure. I this my personal opinion is that

659
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: the body's not missing. There's just some kind of a

660
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: paperwork error somewhere, because like where would the body be.

661
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, because my understanding is if a person

662
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: dies on board, they are like moved to a separate

663
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: area away from the guests. Sometimes they're saying if the

664
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: flight is full, they just have to stay in their seat,

665
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: and I guess they put a sheet over the person

666
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: and then when the flight lands, that's when the me

667
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: is supposed to then come pick them up.

668
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: So like what happened, Yeah, I just believe that the

669
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: em probably did pick them up, and there's a paperwork error.

670
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's not just a case that has a

671
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: simpler description.

672
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's just a body in the fridge

673
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: that was like mislabeled or something.

674
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that it's in the luggage lost in

675
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: fans exactly.

676
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: You know, That's That's what I'm saying, Like, if there

677
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 2: was a body in a body bag on a stretcher

678
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: somewhere like that would have already shown its face like

679
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: it's it's somewhere. It's just this actually reminds me of

680
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: a story I had at a hospital that I used

681
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: to work at that we had a patient that died

682
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: at the hospital and the mom wanted to have an

683
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: autopsy to see why her son died. And a couple

684
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: months later, we get a call from the mother that's like,

685
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: how I wanted the autopsy report on my son, And

686
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: we look through our PaperWorks and we're like, we don't

687
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: have any record of doing an autopsy on him. And

688
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: what happened was like in pathology, we were never alerted

689
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: that they wanted an autopsy, so we released the body

690
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: to the funeral home not knowing that they requested an autopsy.

691
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: So it's it's just like a like something got screwed

692
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: up in the normal person. So I mean, it's not

693
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: like we lost the guy or we didn't have the

694
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: guy in our in our morgue at some time. We did.

695
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: It just was like it got crossed. That happens sometimes

696
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: there's just paperwork issues, and I'm just assuming that there

697
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: is a procedure for this because people die on airplanes.

698
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: It's not common, but it happens. We hear about it

699
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: from time to time, and you know, it's usually due

700
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: to like a cardiac event or something that causes somebody

701
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: to drop dead, a pulmonary embolism or something like that.

702
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: It's not like someone sick with cancer that just ends

703
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: up dying, right, It's like something is like they were

704
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: healthy and they dropped dead. So I'm sure that's the.

705
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: Case, yeah, because like otherwise it would have to be

706
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: something really nefarious, like a person took them and is

707
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: like harvesting their organs or something horrible.

708
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: But that's way less likely. I don't even have to

709
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: stand here like if if you are taking and I

710
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: never worked on an airplane. I've released bodies at the

711
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: hospital all the time. But just thinking like the person

712
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: that took the body off of the airplane was probably

713
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: like like an EMS type of person that would carry

714
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 2: him away on a stretcher, because you're not just gonna

715
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: like throw the guy over your shoulder and bring him

716
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: out right like this is happening like you would take

717
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: someone out of a house. They're yeah, exactly, like they're

718
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: handing the body over to someone and I know that

719
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: it sounds crazy, but like someone like the Cook County

720
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: Medical Examiner's office is a huge office. They probably have

721
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: a whole just like Philadelphia, they have a whole, entire

722
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: separate room of bodies that are like unknown or mislior

723
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: or not not mislabeled, but just unclaimed. And it probably

724
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: is like a screw up with like that person just

725
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: getting put in there and not accounted for, like I

726
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: would put money on it, but like, but like anything's possible.

727
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I don't.

728
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: I remember, well, as a family member, it's completely unacceptable.

729
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, it absolutely is. And it's it's scary too,

730
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: because then you start to worry, like what what's going on? Yeah,

731
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, exactly. And I guess, see the guy

732
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: was already if the guy was already pronounced dead, because

733
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 2: I was saying like, if the guy was in cardiac

734
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: arrest or something, they possibly would bring him to a

735
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: hospital and then he would be pronounced dead and then

736
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: the medical examiner should pick him up. I guess there's

737
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: that possibility that he was brought to a hospital and

738
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: he's at a hospital somewhere in the fridge too. But again, like, well.

739
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm wondering that too, because I don't think the airplane

740
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: officials have the authority to officially pronounce somebody did so,

741
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: like were.

742
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: But if they called, if they called, uh, like EMS

743
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: in in Chicago, they can when they show up to

744
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: the airport, I mean, if they if they determined, like

745
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: I don't really under I don't really know. But all

746
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I know is at the hospital, if we had a

747
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: body that was there longer than even as short as

748
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: five days, that no family was like, we're sending the

749
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: funeral home to come pick them up, we would call

750
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: the Medical Examiner's office and be like, we have an

751
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: unclean body. Take it.

752
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but is it I'm just saying, like, is there

753
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: a possibility they thought he was dead? They brought him

754
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 3: to a hospital and he's like laying on life support

755
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: in some hospital's mostly dead. He's mostly dead like Princess

756
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 3: Bride style. But because I saw, for example, I saw

757
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Lauren shared some something less that I don't know the

758
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: details of the story.

759
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh the woman, the woman in New York that's been

760
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: in the hospital for one hundred days and nobody knows

761
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: who she is.

762
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: It didn't we cover that? Actually, No, that was some

763
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: insurance fraud thing. Anyway, there's a woman in a hospital

764
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: for I think two hundred days. Nobody knows who she is,

765
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 3: so like, is it possible that he was just barely

766
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: hanging on Princess Bride style mostly dead, laying in a

767
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: hospital somewhere.

768
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: It is, It is possible, but but again that would

769
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: still be like a miss a miss labeling situation. Like

770
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: the guys the guy is somewhere, right, I don't. I

771
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: don't think that, like like somebody get rid of a body.

772
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a situation. So if they like are like, Okay,

773
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: who did you? Who called who to come get it?

774
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 3: I feel like it's gonna be easy to trace.

775
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, steps exactly. I just I'm telling you that's all

776
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: it is. I I honestly feel like the Coke County

777
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: Medical Examiner maybe shouldn't even have said anything until they

778
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: but maybe they did further investigate it. I would just

779
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: be like, let me just check everything to make sure

780
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: that this body's not here.

781
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you ever have any weird airplane stories?

782
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: Well, we we just went to Florida, uh like ten

783
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: days ago, and we had a little incident.

784
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: So here about this, Oh you didn't so d it's

785
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 3: making an elephant noise.

786
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Making a what the elephant?

787
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: Wait, did you Dedi's latest She was at the Union

788
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: soccer game and the mascot snuck behind her, pulled her

789
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: head back and gave her a big kiss, like right

790
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: on her face. They were dying. It was like, Kisterpy, this.

791
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Is my niece that they're talking about right now, but

792
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: front row of the show.

793
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: And they were like, you need to do an elephant noise,

794
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: and he did.

795
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: It on film. Dedi does it. She does wear it.

796
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: She said, we'll use it for nefarious purposes.

797
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: All what happened on the plane?

798
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh so on the plane, so Dede had an aisle seat,

799
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: I had the middle seat. The window seat was open.

800
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: So they bring this little old lady that is going

801
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: to go in that seat. So we get up and

802
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: we're like and she's trying to she could barely even

803
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: straighten herself up. She was like, so dd says, just

804
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: we'll move in and you could sit on the end.

805
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: It'll be easier for you. Her daughter was helping her.

806
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: So here goes her daughter like to somewhere else on

807
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the plane and leaves this lady with us. And she

808
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: was like, you know, she was like, yeah, al miss

809
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: doubled over and then she was sleep and she was

810
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: falling on dd and we were like rolling our you know,

811
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: rolling her eyes like where's her daughter? And Dde's like,

812
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: I would never leave you like this, mom. I'm like,

813
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: thank you, but.

814
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: I would have got up and tapped on her and

815
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: been like you could switch sheets with me, because I'm

816
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: not watching your mom.

817
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: This entire flight, we didn't even know where she went

818
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: because she like, wow, you know, it wasn't like she

819
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: was right behind us or anything like that. She was gone.

820
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: She was just like, so this is your pro Indy,

821
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: And I are like.

822
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what if she passes away while she's here,

823
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: because she was bent over.

824
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Like you know, and that would happen for you.

825
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Own, I know, right, And I would have been stuck

826
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: in there next to the window, all right.

827
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: So back in twenty twenty three, we had reported on

828
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: a man who died and after his cremation, his family

829
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: got personal items back, which included a cardboard box which

830
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: started smelling and it ended up containing his brain. So

831
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: this new article comes about this week and a couple

832
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: people had to emailed it to us, and I was

833
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: blowing it off At first, I was like, oh, we

834
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: already covered this story. Oh no, it's happened again.

835
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: This is actually yes, it's a different person. It happened.

836
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: It happened after. It happened after the one that we

837
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: talked about a couple of years ago, and it's a

838
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 2: little bit of a different circumstance. But basically, the guy

839
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: died in Georgia and the family had his remains sent

840
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia, which is which is to totally normal. This

841
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: happens all the time. So before they would send the

842
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: remains to Philadelphia, they would embalm the body and then

843
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: they because the guy died in Georgia, we always had

844
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: this too, like we would have a bag along with

845
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: all of our patients that had like the clothes they

846
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: came in the hospital, with their wedding ring, just whatever

847
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: they had across around their neck, like any of their

848
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: personal belongings. We always put that either not really in

849
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: the body bag because we didn't want it to get contaminated,

850
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: but we would tie it onto the body bag and

851
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: it went to the funeral home. So what happened in

852
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: this case is they didn't say anything about the guy

853
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: having an autopsy, but he had to have an autopsy,

854
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: because at some point they took the guy's brain out

855
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: and they sent So when you do an autopsy, you

856
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: send all of the organs back with the body. We

857
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: usually just kind of throw them all in the abdominal

858
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: cavity and loosely sew a person up and they go

859
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: to the funeral home. And then the funeral home takes

860
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: that bag out and puts chemicals on it so it

861
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: doesn't decompose, and then they put it back in the

862
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: body and bomb the body, sow them up, put the makeup,

863
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: whatever they do. But usually they'll probably just send the

864
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: a bombed body to Philadelphia. So sometimes when we do

865
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: an autopsy, the brain is treated a little bit separately

866
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: because we do the autopsy and look at the organs

867
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: and stuff. But the brain is like very gelatinous. It's

868
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: it's literally like a jello mold. It's so soft, and

869
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: to cut it's not even as firm as a jello mold,

870
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: I would say, so to cut it sometimes makes it

871
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: kind of squishy. So sometimes we put it in formaldehyde

872
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: for like a week in order for it to really

873
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: get firmed up. So when we cut it, it's nice

874
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: slices and I'm thinking in this case, something like that

875
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: happened where they got the body back with the organs,

876
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: and then maybe the hospital or the medical examiner that

877
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: did the autopsy sent the brain back like later in

878
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: a container. I don't know why the brain would have

879
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: been separated from the other organs, but whatever happened, and

880
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: this brain was in a container that somehow got mixed

881
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: up with the guy's clothes and jewelry and stuff and

882
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: was given to the family as this is his personal belongings.

883
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: And the mom said she couldn't open the one box

884
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: at first, and they just left it in the trunk.

885
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: And obviously, so this this actually makes me think that

886
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't put in formaldehyde because it was it started decomposing,

887
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: and when the dad picked up the box, it was

888
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: like leaking brain juice, like decomp brain juice on his hands.

889
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know.

890
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like if you had a brain that was

891
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: in formalde hyde for a week, it would be like

892
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: a rubber ball, like it's not it's not decomposing like that.

893
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: So it had to be. For whatever reason the brain was,

894
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: it was fresh and separate from the other organs. I

895
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: can't explain to you why that would happen.

896
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: But what if they used the brain for a study

897
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: or something like that, would that explain it, like maybe

898
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: why it was separate.

899
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: No, Because usually if you're gonna do it for a study,

900
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: it's the same thing I'm telling you, Like, you're gonna

901
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: look at it, You're you're gonna put it in for maldehyde.

902
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: Like for example, if you're looking for you're doing a

903
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: study for like MS or any kind of brain condition,

904
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna really want to get good. You're gonna want

905
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: it to be preserved really well in formaldehyde, and you're

906
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna want to get really great sections under the microscope

907
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: so you could see the pathology really crisp under the microscope.

908
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: And the fresh brain tissue is just that if you

909
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: look at a brain fresh, it's usually like either you

910
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: know the person died from another reason or when you

911
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: look at it, it's something clear like the person hit

912
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: their head and they have this brain bleed that you

913
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: could see when you cut it open. You're not looking

914
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: for like Parkinson's or Louis body dementia or CTE or

915
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: anything that's like something that you really want to have

916
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: really good microscopic sections of. So like in a case

917
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: where we examine the brain on sight, Like I would

918
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: just throw all of the organs, including the brain, in

919
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: the same visceral bag in the body and send it back.

920
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't know why they were separate. It's kind of

921
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 2: weird to me, but I guess different places do different things.

922
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 2: You know, what else is possible? I guess. I guess

923
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: sometimes people put the brain back into the skull, and

924
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: I guess maybe when they were embombing the guy, they

925
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: took the brain out of the skull and maybe put

926
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 2: it in a separate box. I just don't. I don't

927
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: know like what they're doing in a funeral home because

928
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: I've never worked right on. But regardless, like whatever happened,

929
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: so the family, the family got the belongings from the

930
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: Philadelphia funeral home. Who's just like, hey, like where he

931
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: just gave you what they told us was his belongings,

932
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: Like this isn't our problem, which it's not, because why

933
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: would you why would you go through the guy's belongings

934
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: if it just said it was his personal belongings, you

935
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't think that they were giving him them a fresh

936
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: brain in a box.

937
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like all the faults going on the

938
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: Georgia funeral home that prepared this happened. So this happened

939
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, the death. So they're filing a

940
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: lawsuit now, which is also why I thought it was

941
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: the other case we had covered, but that.

942
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: One was in twenty twenty two.

943
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe it happened twice. I mean when

944
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: we first reported on it, we couldn't even believe it happened.

945
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: Then. Yeah, and this is one hundred percent, Like I'm

946
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: not a lawsuit person, but this is lawsuit worthy. Traumatizing

947
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: like the dad. I mean, think about this, like, you

948
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: don't ever want to bury your own kid, even though

949
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: these people are older and their child's a little older.

950
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: But he's not that old. He was only in his fifties.

951
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: And they didn't say why he died. But that's terrible

952
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: to have to bury a child, and then to smell

953
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: that smell. It's human decomposition is one of the most

954
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: It's a disturbing smell, especially to know what it is,

955
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: and then to have your child's brain tissue with that

956
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: smell on your hands. It is traumatizing in your trunk,

957
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: in your car. So he said he had to sell

958
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: the car which I don't blame, no like, and just

959
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: think about just how like the PTSD that comes along

960
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: with that deserves a suit and on top of that,

961
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: an investigation to see why this happened, to make sure

962
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: that this doesn't happen to anyone else, because no one

963
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: should ever have to experience that.

964
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, that's a sad story. Jeez.

965
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: All right, guys, Well, because of our special guests, we

966
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: are not going to do questions this week, But do

967
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: you have any added thoughts?

968
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: Beth? Actually maybe we could tell them though that next

969
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: next time you put up the questions thing on the

970
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: mother Knows Death page if they do have any questions

971
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 2: for momm for next time she's on if she ever

972
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 2: gets invited back.

973
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: Because you guys won't hear this, but she gave us

974
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: a spiel after I said, please make sure your biggers off.

975
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: And she said, what am I stupid?

976
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: And then shocker seconds later, Yeah, I think you definitely

977
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: need to post some outtakes just for I think I've.

978
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: Been very well behaved today.

979
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: Actually, I want to give a shout out to my

980
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: kids for being so well behaved because they're staying at

981
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: your house yes week because they're going to a camp

982
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: up there, and and I can't believe that they are

983
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: being so quiet. I don't hear Lucia doing any of

984
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: her ballet moves above you.

985
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh well, I know she's been all over with them.

986
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: She she wanted to jump off the steps into Lilian's

987
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: hands with the ballet.

988
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: Don't. I don't. I was like, no, I don't want

989
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: to know.

990
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: This cannot happen.

991
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 2: You're like, just calm down, you just you just got

992
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: these things and oh my.

993
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: God, they don't come instant ballerine issues.

994
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

995
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: That's why they love going to your house, because you

996
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 3: let them do whatever anything goes.

997
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 2: You know, it's probably like what time is it now,

998
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 2: like eleven o'clock in the morning. They've probably already had

999
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: two cans of coke and ice cream for breakfast, so.

1000
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: They probably did because that's all that's over here at

1001
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: Low's house and next door at my house is real food.

1002
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother, even though my brother is approaching how old.

1003
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: Is he now, thirty thirty eight?

1004
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: He's thirty eight, so he's approaching forty years old. He

1005
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: still eats like a child, like a teenage boy. So

1006
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 2: his house is stacked and he has like a really

1007
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: awesome house, but it's just stacked with like things that

1008
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: you would expect a teenage boy to have, like a

1009
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: whole fridge of Coca cola.

1010
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: And just so, he was telling me the other day

1011
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna murder us for talking about but I think he

1012
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: doesn't listen to our show. He was telling me the

1013
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: other day that he was on the doxy cyclean when

1014
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: we thought he had lives. Oh, I was so sick.

1015
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: I was just like home drinking, Like I drink like

1016
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: two gallons of milk that week, and I was like

1017
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: a who drinks two gallons of milk as an adult?

1018
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: And be you're not really supposed to have dairy on

1019
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: that medication. Doesn't it make it worse on your stomach?

1020
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. That medication makes me terribly sick. I

1021
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: had to taken after my surgery, and it was I

1022
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: just hate that feeling that it gives me.

1023
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh really, that never bothered me. I took it before

1024
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: for my skin.

1025
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: I think you know what else we should mention on

1026
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: here that my brother is single. He really killed me, He.

1027
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: Really kill you. But single handsome owns a house, It

1028
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: owns a business.

1029
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he owns two houses.

1030
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: And he owns a good house and he's a contractor.

1031
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said it.

1032
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Is like he's also just like extremely creative and and

1033
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: just smart with doing things. He likes to figure things

1034
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: out ever since he was a little kid, and now

1035
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: that he's older, he just you know, anything I want

1036
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: in my house, I'll just be like, can you install

1037
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: this for me? And he just is really creative with

1038
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: all different kinds of ideas. And he's I remember him,

1039
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: he's very shy.

1040
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Twelve years old, he was installing a ceiling fan and

1041
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, like the wires and all that. Yeah, And

1042
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: I was like, how like how do you know this?

1043
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: How do you know what to do? And it's just

1044
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: it's so natural to him.

1045
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: He just importantly as a mother, why weren't you like

1046
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: maybe you shouldn't be playing with live wires.

1047
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing.

1048
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: Because she was remodeling her house.

1049
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: She just wanted the cheap free labor child leader. O.

1050
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: God, he was supervising, not that I don't know that

1051
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: that was much better.

1052
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: I know, right, like Louis probably would have been better.

1053
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Supervisor was like, Dad, no, you can't do it that way.

1054
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna kill me.

1055
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: Because I want to ask him, when you give me

1056
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: that Murphy bed from your basement, I want to ask

1057
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: him to build like a custom bookshelf around it in

1058
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: my guest room. So he's gonna really hate me when

1059
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: I ask him for that. I haven't asked him for

1060
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: anything in a while.

1061
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: Well, I slept last night with the al picture you

1062
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: gave him looking over us.

1063
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good picture. Yeah, it is painting.

1064
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, reminded me of the one that popad he was

1065
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: staring at you. All right, guys, Well, thank you so

1066
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 3: much to mo mom. She will probably make an appearance

1067
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: again unless we post all the outtakes of us yelling

1068
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: at her.

1069
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: We can't granny about tell them the elder abuse.

1070
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: But you started this culture, all right, guys. We will

1071
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: be at crime Con September fifth and September seventh, And

1072
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,319
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1073
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: to Apple or Spotify and leave it there. We would

1074
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,480
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1075
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,400
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1076
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: it to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com.

1077
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 2: Bye bye. Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.

1078
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant.

1079
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

1080
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

1081
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

1082
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

1083
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

1084
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

1085
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

1086
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: Always remember that science is changing every day and the

1087
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge

1088
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,759
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