1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to a Monday edition of Texans. All 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: acts as, Oh, it's so good to be back on 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the air. I'm your host, John Harris Football, anal's sideline reporter, 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and here we go. Check the calendar. It'sa April fourth. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't care too much with the fourth part. I 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: care about the April part because it is draft month. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: We're going hot and heavy towards the draft. And of 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: course to kick off the show with me, my man 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Mark van Meer Mark, how do you feel about being 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: in draft month? Finally, I feel really good. I feel 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: really good. It's three weeks from Thursday, people. I heard 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: a national show and the draft is in less than 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: four weeks. Oh, I'll do you one better. That still 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: sounds like it's a long time for now. It's three 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: weeks from Thursday. That sounds like it's coming up in 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: ten minutes tomorrow, which it basically is. Get ready, folks. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny going into this draft. People always 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: ask me about you know, what are you just cramming 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: film right now? I actually feel pretty good about where 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I have things in the Harris one hundred. I do 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: have some I do have some updates and changes that 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: I need to make, and I think one, not that 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: I think it's going to impact too much, but I 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: think a very key moment in this NFL draft is 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: coming up on Wednesday, and it is the pro day 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: of one Derek Stingley. Oh, because he out at LSU, 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: all right, so he's a corner from LSU and a 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: lot of people think, well, Sauce Gardner thinks he's the 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: number one player in this draft, Johnny, he tweeted that 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: and he said that, Yes, and I'm wondering if Stingley 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: is considered better by some Yes, Okay, I mean it's 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: because Stingley has been out of sight, out of mind. 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: This pro day is as is as important as any 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: pro day potentially of any guy on the in the 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: draft class Stingley. In twenty nineteen, everybody talked about Justin 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Jefferson and our Chase and Joey Burrow. On that LSU 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: National championship team, it had a great offensive line. Clyde 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: Ward Zulare was a running back that Patrick Queen was 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: a first rounder at linebacker. Stingley was arguably one of 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: the top three talents on a team. You could go Burrow, Jamar, Chase, 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley and anybody who watch that team would say, yeah, 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: you're right. And he was a true freshman, so okay, good, 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: he's got two more years. This dude, he's gonna be 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey plus. Well, then we get to the COVID 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: year and he kind of half plays, half sits out, 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and then he comes back from twenty twenty one ready 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: to prove thanks, and he plays like three games and 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: he gets hurt and he's injured, and now he hasn't 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: played it. So now he's kind of the biggest enigma 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: in this draft. Like what is Derek Stingley? What was sauce? 51 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: We know what sauce is. Sauces long, physical, Detroit kid. 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna knock your block off. He is gonna make 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: life really miserable for receivers. I think there's there are 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: some man to man and techniques that he needs to 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: learn and get better at. I think he runs really well, 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: but man, he plays with the edge. He is everything 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: you want. I think in a perfect world, Derek Stingley 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: is smooth. He is Jalen Ramsey without the Jalen Braggados show. 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Stingly he's very confident himself. But 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: he's not like Jalen. I mean, you've seen it. He's 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: not like. He's not like Sauce. He's not gonna tweet 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: that he's the best player in the draft. Right. So 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: his pro day is Wednesday, and that's gonna be the 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: first time really that key decision makers are gonna see 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: him live and up close. Didn't get a chance to 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: see him the Combine because he didn't work out. I mean, 67 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: they had interviews and such. This is it on Wednesday, 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting to see if teams are 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: locked into Sauce or they're open to You know, what 70 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: we saw from twenty nineteen, albeit two seasons ago, three 71 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: seasons ago. We liked what we saw and that was 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: a young player. We get him in our program and 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: he stays healthy. Boy, we got something big time right here. 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way, Eileen, because when I 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: saw him in twenty nineteen, I saw a dude that 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: is a polished corner who can absolutely play. But that 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: pro day, I think is gonna be important because he's 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: finally doing something for a guy who's been out that long. 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: A pro day is like a proof of life. Yes, 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: professionalism to almost in the media, everybody's forgotten about him. 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Everybody's like sauce this, and Trent McDuffie, and you know, 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Andrew Booth, unfortunately is now hurt, and so he's gonna 83 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: be another one that's gonna kind of fall into those 84 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: auspices because what do you have and Andrew Booth Andrew Booth. 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: But at least Booth played on the field. Stingley hasn't, 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: and so his pro day could end up shaping mark 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: what turns out to be my first version of the 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: mock draft for twenty twenty two. Okay, you're doing a 89 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: mock draft, a full first round mock draft now when 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: you knew vander Mock. Yeah, you do the Texans selections, 91 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: which is tough because you get to rounds four or 92 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: five to six, seven, you you got a lot of pay. 93 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: But those are the ones I nailed. Johnny Lopez last year, Savage, 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: once upon a time, you crushed her. A couple of others, Yeah, 95 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: there are a few others that were in there a 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: long way, but I was really happy. You got the 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez one from last year. That's pretty good, not bad, 98 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and you got Grenard from two years ago 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: actually called draft crushing it here. So going through the 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: smock draft, and I've thought through the first two picks 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: are just baffling to me. They're baffling because I could 102 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: see the Jags going Aidan Hutchinson. Yeah, see the Jags 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: going Trayvon Walker. They could talk themselves into one of 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: the best athletes in the draft. But then you look 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: over at the offensive line and like Coffins, the line 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: wasn't that good last year. Brandon Linder retired at center. Right, 107 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson's just the franchise. He's on a franchise tag. 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: We have aj Cann, we have aj Cann, he came here. 109 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor has been up and down and he's on 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: the last year rookie deal. And I just thought they've 111 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: got to have an offensive lineman. If they're going to 112 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: invest in Trevor Lawrence, you better invest in people to 113 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: put around him. And I don't know that Cam Robinson 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Juan Taylor are gonna be your tackle duo for all 115 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: that long. So I gave them Evan Neal at number 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: one to the Jaguars. Why is Aiden Hutchinson being mocked 117 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville in the last two or three Weeks. I 118 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: guess since the combine, Johnny, because prior to the combine, 119 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: nobody thought that Jacksonville was going to go in that direction, 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: and everyone assumed Dan Campbell there's no way he's gonna 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: let Hutchinson slip through his fingers in Michigan. The kind 122 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: of guy he is, all of that. But why is 123 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: Jacksonville getting Aiden Hutchinson delivered to them by the media. 124 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Because Hutchinson is probably the safest of all picks. I 125 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: mean he's a sub seventh second three cone guy. I 126 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: mean his twitch, strength, length, its ability to get to 127 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I mean he's everything that you really wanted 128 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: in a pass rusher. I don't think he's quite the 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: athlete a guy like Joey and Bosa is Nick Bosa 130 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: or Von Miller. I don't think he's that class. He's 131 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: not the athlete Miles Garrett is. But man, he's a 132 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: really technical, sound athlete with strength and length that you 133 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: want at that particular position. You put him opposite Josh 134 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Allen and it makes sense. I just feel like their 135 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: offensive line with two Bonafid Top three Top four talents 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: in Evan Neil and Ikey Aquanu, I feel like that's 137 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: the way that they should go in and Doug Peterson, 138 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: I know they need to help the opposite side. But 139 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: they drafted Kaylaman Chase on a little you know two 140 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: years ago, right, they drafted Josh Allen to here before that, 141 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: so they put a lot of draft capital over there. 142 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: How they haven't put as much in the offensive line. 143 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that should be the excuse, but 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: you drafted Trevor Lawrence, and if you don't protect them 145 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: this year, better even if you have to put Evanny 146 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: a guard. And Trevor Lawrence is running for his life again, 147 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you a year three, he's seeing ghosts. He's 148 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna turn to Sam Darnold. I'm seeing ghosts. That's what 149 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna do. So I got Evan Neo going one, 150 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: number two, and this will gut me on draft night 151 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: because I really would like Aiden Hutchinson here, But you 152 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: don't see Dan Campbell and company passing this opportunity. I've 153 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: got Troy Lions taken Aiden Hutchinson at number two. So 154 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Evann off the board, Aidan Hutchinson off the board, and 155 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: we get to number three. Historically, you've never made a 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Texans picking a mock draft. No, I well, for the 157 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Washington Post, I didn't. I didn't do it for them. 158 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I would let somebody else do it. I've done a 159 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: few mocks for us. Okay, I've done a few mocks 160 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: for us, and I've made that pick. But I wrote 161 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: this sentence at number three. Let me be very clear. 162 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: I have no in This is all caps. I have 163 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: no inside information at all. But this is what i'd 164 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: like to do. You. Oh, no, here it comes. You're 165 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: not going to do it, are you? I want to 166 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: trade down? Oh and I found a trade partner you did, okay, 167 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: in the Peachtree State. See, this is a good peach 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Tree city, all right, So we're gonna make a trade 169 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: with Atlanta after all. But it's not the one everyone 170 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: was talking about a couple of weeks ago, right, And 171 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: I think that plays into it. And just in the 172 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: fact that Terry Fonto GM and Arthur Smith probably had 173 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: conversations with Nick Casserio. They probably talked about certain things, 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: who knows, not saying that, they said, look, if we 175 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: don't if we don't get to Sean, you know, maybe 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: we can make a deal three for eight whatever. So 177 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: that's what I came up with because I think the 178 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: key and this is Carolina, because I yes the Falcons 179 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: when I got Marcus Mariota. He can't be the answer. No, 180 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: he can't be the answer. He hasn't shown, he hasn't 181 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: shown anywhere that he is the answer. No, he's a 182 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: veteran who can be there while you develop a younger player. 183 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: That's there's no way they think he's the answer. If 184 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: he turns into the answer, good for them. But you 185 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: can't expect them to be thinking that way. And Sam 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Donald is certainly not the answer in Carolina, although the 187 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Panthers do have some trade equity into Sam but for 188 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: the deal that they made last year. But I can't 189 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: think that's. I can't believe that Sam Donald, especially with 190 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: David Tepper as the owner, that they feel like Sam 191 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Donald is the answer. And with Carolina at six in 192 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: Houston eight, I've initially made a move with Carolina, and 193 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: I realized Carolina doesn't have a second third on pick 194 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: this year, so what are they gonna give now? If 195 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: they go, hey, we'll move three spots and we'll give 196 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: you our first next year, which would be dumb. I 197 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: would be like, yes, but I don't think that can happen. 198 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: So I don't think Carolina could package a deal that's 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: gonna make any sense to move three spots. And so 200 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: then I brought in Atlanta. I thought Atlanta's got I 201 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: think two seconds in a third, so in two thirds, 202 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: I think, so they've got some ammunition in this thing. 203 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, let's do it. Atlanta's got two seconds, 204 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: they got forty three and fifty eight, and then they've 205 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: got seventy four and eighty two. So I'm taking the 206 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: top second round pick forty three. I'm taking the second 207 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: third round pick number eighty two, and I need a 208 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: little bit more, so I'm gonna ask for next year's third. 209 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: So from three to eight, I'm taking Atlanta's top second 210 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: round pick, number forty three. I'm taking their third round 211 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: pick number eighty two, and then I'm getting a third 212 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: next year to drift five spots. So with that deal, 213 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: the Texans would have three thirds in this year's draft. 214 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: They would have sixty eight, eighty and eighty two two seconds. 215 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: They would have thirty seven and forty three. Wow, And 216 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: then you get their falcons eighth and then you drop 217 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: you dropped five spots in number eight. All right, So 218 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: and they're gonna move up to pick Blik Willis. Leake. 219 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Willis is from the Atlanta area. It makes sense they 220 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: did the Matt Ryan thing. I think Atlanta when Michael 221 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Vick was in Atlanta, I think that's when the Falcons 222 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: in the city of Atlanta was the most just supercharged 223 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: behind It was unbelievable. And I think, albeit Matt Ryan, 224 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: a very very very good quarterback going into the Hall 225 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: of the very Good, Atlanta had some good had a 226 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: good run with him, but I think a local homeboy. 227 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: And Malik Willis and the way that he plays, I think, 228 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: not to say he's a right handed version of Michael Vick, 229 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: but I've seen him doing things on the football field. 230 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, WHOA. So I think Atlanta makes the move 231 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: up to get Milik Willis. Mariota plays until he proves 232 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: he can't. Willis gets thrown in the mix, and away 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: you go. Atlanta goes up to three to get Malik Willis. 234 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: The next four picks won Okay, I gotta react to that. Okay, 235 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you gotta react. I need to process this. So what's 236 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: your thought about moving from three to eight? Well, I 237 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: let's take the Texans perspective. A moment from now. Yes, 238 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: the Atlanta perspective of moving up to take Willis. I 239 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: find this really interesting because coming into this draft, and 240 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: by coming into it, I mean a few weeks ago, right, 241 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: all the buzz was about these quarterbacks aren't that good? 242 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: They're not lottery pick type quarterbacks. And then I think 243 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: back to the twenty seventeen draft where Mahomes went, Watson went. 244 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: Obviously Trubisky was the first one to go there. Think 245 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: about Patrick Mahomes dropping when you think about it now 246 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: now going into that draft, Johnny Mahomes, I think I 247 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: asked you this before, but I want to ask you this, 248 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: What is the opinion. What was the opinion of all 249 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: the pundits, the collective opinion of the pundits on Mahomes 250 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: heading into that draft versus the collective opinion on Willis 251 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: heading into this draft. I think they're very similar. Okay, 252 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I think they're very similar, with the exception that because 253 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes came into the league, it has changed what we're 254 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: looking for in quarterbacks, what NFL teams are looking for 255 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: in quarterbacks. I think Mahomes and if you remember twenty seventeen, 256 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: I did my first mock draft that February and I 257 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: had the Shawn going to to San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan, 258 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and I had at number three the Chicago Bears taking 259 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and it was such a thing. I remember 260 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: driving the car and John Lopez brings up the Washington 261 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Post saying Mahomes is going three, and I texted him 262 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: I said, look at the author and he wrote back 263 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: and went, oh, I didn't know that was you. I 264 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's me, he goes, because I'm about 265 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: to agree with you. So anyways, that was kind of 266 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: the I mean, I was, I was throwing stuff against 267 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: the wall in some sense. But I liked both the 268 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Shawan and Patrick Mahomes. But the league really hadn't seen 269 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the way they play. And I think that's changed things. 270 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I really do, because after Mahomes came into the league 271 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: and people saw it, they were more apt to take 272 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: a risk on Josh Allen with Buffalo Josh Allen. Yes, 273 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Jackson not as much as the number thirty two, 274 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: But then you see the MVP season Lamar has and 275 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: you're like, WHOA, We've got to find somebody that lights 276 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: his place on fire and all of a sudden. You see, 277 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say that, Hey, a 278 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: guy who can just stay in a pocket like Matt 279 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Ryan and sling it isn't isn't gonna be? Is it 280 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a quarterback that people want to see? I 281 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: mean people want to see wins. And if Matt Ryan 282 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: throws three hundred fifty and indies, so be it. But 283 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: I think I think teams look at it and say, man, 284 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: how can we find a guy like Malik Willis with 285 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: all that arm strength and we can rein it in 286 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: and the excitement level he brings our guys will follow him. 287 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: And you go to that Mahomes and Josh Allen game 288 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: in January, and Mark, I'm telling you that game we're 289 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna look back, I think five to seven years from 290 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: now and NFL teams are gonna look at that game 291 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: saying that's the kind of guy we've got to have. 292 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: We have to have that kind of guy. Why did 293 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen go so high with a low completion percentage 294 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: in college because he had every asset you wanted a quarterback. 295 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen him. He's six to five, he's 296 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: two forty. He could throw it through a brick wall. 297 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: And he had never had any issues off the field. 298 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: He was one of the hardest workers at Wyoming. He 299 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: was everything he wanted a quarterback. It just was he 300 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: color color outside the lines. And it's like, if we 301 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: saw it in the playoff game, if he can eliminate 302 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Wyoming Josh like he did in the first half, Yeah, 303 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: if he can eliminate Wyoming Josh, like tell Wyoming Josh 304 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: to just stay over there in the closet, then he 305 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be a great quarterback. And he's starting to 306 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: do that, if not already done that, Yeah, you're seeing it. 307 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: That's why I think teams are more apt to take 308 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: a risk on a guy like Malik Willis. Okay, So 309 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta takes the risk, makes the deal. This is John 310 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: Harris's mock draft. Makes the deal with the Texans at 311 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: the third pick overall, Texans get number eight overall, They 312 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: get a two in this year's draft, a three in 313 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: this year's draft, and a three next year. Yes, all right, 314 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: so at a pretty good deal. It's a well, it 315 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: sounds like a good deal. And I'm eager to hear 316 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: who the Texans have eventually taken at number eight in 317 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: this year's draft, all right, So number four not to uh. 318 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Number four is the Jets Derek Stingley. Going back to 319 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: our previous conversation, I think Stingley is a good pro 320 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: day and I astintly ahead of Sauce Garden. You're gonna 321 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: be interested to see what happens is Sauce in this thing. 322 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: Number five is Ikey Kwantu to the New York Giants 323 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: David Andrew Thomas. And then there's nothing. Yea, the Carolina 324 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: Panthers take Kenny Pickett. They need a quarterback desperately, they 325 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: go ahead and grab him. Here see if Pickett and 326 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: will is going in the top six, I mean listen, 327 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean no, it's the It's what the quarterbacks do. 328 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: The cream blows to the top. This is what they do. 329 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: This is what happens. We devalue the quarterbacks coming in 330 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: unless they are like total studs coming out of college. 331 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: And there's no doubt about it in people's minds anyway, 332 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: because clearly, clearly hindsight proves otherwise. But whatever, you get 333 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: to the draft, and yeah, next year, as you say, 334 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I'm still waiting, but it's only one year 335 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: in anyway, go ahead, Carolina takes picket. Carolina takes picket. Now. 336 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: One thing to note, and I'm not maybe Peter Kinger 337 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: said this and point out, can you pick it had 338 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: committed to Tempo when Matt rules head coach there that 339 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: Matt Rule came to Baylor and pick it decide. He 340 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: was staying in the relatively northeast and Pittsburgh, which, by 341 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: the way, we were watching my son and I Jack, 342 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: We're watching the movie, remember the movie Striking Distance with 343 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: Bruce Willis. Oh, yeah, they're on the water. Yeah, he 344 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: loved He's like, Dad, Pittsburgh looks cool. I'm like, Pittsburgh 345 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: is one of the most underrated cities out there, and 346 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: they make it look good. They're on the water a lot, 347 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: obviously because they're a boat patrol or something. He's a 348 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: boat cop or something like that, and they live on 349 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: the Three Rivers. Yeah. No, Pittsburgh's beautiful at night. It's 350 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: beautiful in the day when you come out of that 351 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Fourth Pit tunnel and you see the city emerging right there. 352 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Um that the giant ski lift thing whatever it is 353 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: that goes up to the mountain. Yeah, it's okay. New 354 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: York Giants. I had actually put in a different name. 355 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: But then I looked at the defensive coordinator, so wink Martin, 356 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: and I thought, former Raven d C what player feels 357 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: most like a Raven? And that was Trayvon Walker right 358 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: there in Georgia. Yeah, it just it felt right. So 359 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: that brings us to the Texans at number eight. Oh well, 360 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: the number one player in the Harris one hundred is 361 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: still available. And who did I take? Kyle Hamilton? Thank you? 362 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Halton had to you did it. I had to, and 363 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: that's it. I just look, I don't think he's gonna 364 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: get outside the top ten out of some people will 365 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: ding him on the forty yard dash. I'm not gonna 366 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: get I'm not gonna get too wound up about that, 367 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I went Charles Cross number nine, nine, 368 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: and I went Jordan Davis to the New York Jets. 369 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Now I was holding out hope I could get Jordan 370 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: Davis to the Texans at thirteen, but I couldn't do it. 371 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: All right, you don't think he lasts. I don't think 372 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: he lasts. So then I got Davis to the Jets. 373 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Robert Sali going I get defensive linement. It makes it 374 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: makes it fits Washington Commanders Chris alave I gave them 375 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: a receiver because former teammate Terry McClain might be moving on. 376 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: This is last year, was rookie deal, and he might 377 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: he might play himself out of Washington because he's too good. 378 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: Notice I haven't said Sauce Gardner's name. He's dropping. He's 379 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: at twelve. And it wasn't so much dropping. It was 380 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: just trying to find the right fit. And because the 381 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: Jets had already taken Stingley, I thought about the Commanders 382 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: for Gardner, but I thought they needed a receiver a 383 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: little bit more. So that gets me to number thirteen, 384 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: and I just don't feel great about this. But there 385 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: comes a time in a draft when you look at 386 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: it and go, this guy is just way too good 387 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: for this particular spot. We've got to take him. And 388 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: it's Cabon Thibodeau from out of Oregon. I was gonna say, 389 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: he's been dropping. And I didn't think that he was 390 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: a player you would take for the Houston Texans. Yeah. Yeah, 391 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think I would either, But I got to 392 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: a point where value outweighed everything else. All right, Well, 393 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something here, and I don't know 394 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: that I don't you don't fully believe in this pick. 395 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: This is what I said, although ay, I don't think 396 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: Thibodeau will fall as far and B not sure that 397 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: he's the greatest fit here in Houston. There's just too 398 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: much talent to not jump all over this former duck 399 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: edge rush. You're on draft night, So the Texans parlaid 400 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: picks number three and thirteen into Kyle Hamilton's cabon Thibodeau 401 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: a second round or the forty third overall, a third rounder, 402 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: eighty second overall, and a third next year. If Nick 403 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: does that on draft night, when the draft night is over, 404 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be up on a table losing my mind. So, 405 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: because hypothetically you made the deal with Atlanta, you have 406 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: these extra picks, yes, two seconds, three thirds, Yes, you 407 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of as Seth said this morning, swings 408 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: at the plate. Yes, in order to even make up 409 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: for a missed pick in the first round. Potentially, what Tibadeau. 410 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: If if you don't think and I'm I hate to 411 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: single out any player here, but if they don't think, 412 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: or if you don't think Thibodeau is the right guy, 413 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: the right fit at three, I get the value. No, 414 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying three in the first place, you know, because 415 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: you could just grab him right there. But he drops 416 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: to thirteen, then you say, all right, we're gonna take him. 417 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: I still think that he's got to be the kind 418 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: of player you want. He's got to be a fit. 419 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: Not that he's not, but I'm saying if he wasn't, 420 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 1: I don't think being available at thirteen makes him the 421 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: right fit. I think that you gotta stick to your guns. 422 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: Gordon get Go said, and he was a fictional character, 423 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I know, but he said, don't get emotional about stock. 424 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: I think you cannot get emotional about players, right, And 425 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: that's that. This is me not getting emotional. Yeah, but 426 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: you kind of are because now you're saying, well, look 427 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: look at the value here, I gotta go for this, right, 428 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: But that's pure value, that's pure value. If I didn't 429 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: think he would fit at three, he's not fitting at 430 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: thirteen as far as fit the way the guy conducts himself. 431 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not singling out Thibodeau, but if 432 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: that is the knock on him, yeah it is, then 433 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I got to obey my feelings on that. Or my 434 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: assessment on that being said, I agreed. Now there is 435 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: a point at which value takes over. Like last year revn. Jordan, 436 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: I had a number thirty seven and Harris one hundred. 437 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: He's available in fifth round. You can jump all over it. 438 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the famous Arian Foster story was that there 439 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: were scouts the area. Scout had a very high grade 440 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: on Arian Foster, but they weren't totally sure about it. 441 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: Then he becomes an undrafted free agent. You jump all 442 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: over it. So you balance those things, bounce those things out. 443 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Now this should actually be an either or question. You 444 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: want to do it after the break, Let's do it 445 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: after the break, because I have some either orse for you. 446 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: So let's do it after the break. And there is 447 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: news about a trade that has taken place, and it's 448 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: a long one, but it's an interesting one between the 449 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Saints and the Eagles, and do that extra here in 450 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: Texans A Access exensol access, exensol access. Well back to 451 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: Monday edition of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans 452 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: Radio studio. John here, Mark there, And when we last 453 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: left you? I feel like that's the old Batman show. 454 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: When't we last left you? The joker that it is 455 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: so dated. I love I know old Batman, Batman, Same 456 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: bat Time, same bat Shuttle when imes in high school, 457 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: the Old Batman's came back and the monkeys came back. 458 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: I think the monkeys weren't MTV. The monkeys weren't MTV 459 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: because the monkeys were the kind of show that belonged 460 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: on MTV. The monkeys were a response to a hard 461 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: day's night. It helped old Beatles movies. Kids. Are you 462 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: following along? When we last left you, we were debating 463 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: pick number thirteen in my mock draft, which you can 464 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: see at Houston Texas dot com. It still needs some polishing. 465 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: The players are all slotted, so I just fill out 466 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: my thought process in write up. But in this draft 467 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: I traded down from three to eight with the Falcons, 468 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: picked up a second, a third and a third next year, 469 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: and moved five spots. We took Kyle Hamilton at number eight. 470 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: You didn't seem to have too much of a shoe 471 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: with that, Nope, he seemed okay with that. Then at 472 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: thirteen because he was still on the board, and I 473 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: think he's great value at a priority position. Is Cabon 474 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Thibadeau from Oregon Now the very next pick with the 475 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, and again this guy fuels a lot like 476 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: a raven, which you know what, I shouldn't be dismayed 477 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: with that here in Houston. I'm gonna give you the option. 478 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: Are you gonna take came on Thibodeau or Jermaine Johnson 479 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: from out of Florida State. Well wait a minute, so 480 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: you're saying for me at thirteen, Now I can go 481 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: back and redo that pick back the card you can. 482 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: You can pull back and go who whoa, whoa, wha 483 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: wha Johnny set up. Came on Thibodeau and he's only 484 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: got one toe on his right foot. We're not doing that, 485 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: So what do you want to do? And you're like, man, 486 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: you know we can really, we can really do some 487 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: work on the edge. We got John Grenard out there 488 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: at Jermaine Johnson transferred from Georgia to Florida State, put 489 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: on a show at the Senior Bowl was absolutely unbelievable. 490 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: He's a great pass rusher, plays the run very very well, 491 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: plays with an edge would seemingly fit a Lovey Smith defense. 492 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Or are you gonna go with Thibodeau or I got 493 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: third number three? We're gonna door number three and second. 494 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: But those two where you going, Well, if I don't 495 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: think Thibodeau's a fit for me, I'm gonna go Johnson. 496 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: If it's among those two guys, I'll go ahead and 497 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: go for Jermaine Johnson. Why not? And then Travis Johnson 498 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: will be very happy to pick the semnol and we 499 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: could have seminal parties. You know, that's saying something. That's 500 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: saying something automatic. As you said thumbs up for you 501 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: said thumbs up for Knowls. Okay, And once they're in 502 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, I'm fine with the Knowls. It's when they're 503 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: in college that I have a big problem with them. Okay, 504 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: So let's go to door number three, because pick thirteen 505 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: to me is wild. I look at pick number thirteen 506 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I can go a million different 507 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: ways here, right, I mean, well, especially when you have 508 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: picks in the second and third round that you can 509 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like the draft is over after 510 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: you pick thirteen, right, you have a lot of different 511 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: ways to go. You know what Pat Kerwin said about 512 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: the pass rushers. By the way, he said he counted 513 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: eighteen teams that need pass rushers. In the first three rounds, 514 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: he said he counted about fifteen pass rushers, So it's 515 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: like musical chairs, right, and everybody wants to find that 516 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: find that next pass rusher. And among those fifteen, how 517 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: many are really gonna make it? So the pass rushers 518 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: that I have on the board, Jermaine Johnson, Thibadeau, George Karloft, 519 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: this from out of Purdue, and I love you. I 520 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: believe coached against him, against George KARLOFTU, so he's gonna 521 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: know him. Shorter arms, powerful, a true fit in this building. 522 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Jim Ratt. I'm just everything you want in a football play. 523 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Do you want an edge player, edge rusher? Do you 524 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: want a wide receiver? Do you want an inside linebacker? 525 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: Or do you want a corner? At thirteen thirteen? If 526 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: you've got a pick now, the one other I would 527 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: put in there would be interior defensive line. But I 528 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: got Jordan Davis going off the board. So the next 529 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman I have is corner is act I 530 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: have DeVante Wyatt from on a Georgia. I already voted. 531 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: I voted for corner. You voted for corner, Yeah, but 532 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: is it booth? Is it is it Treman Duffy out 533 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: of Washington is Andrew Booth. You've got Stingley and you 534 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: got Sauce. Right off the port, They're gone. There is 535 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: is Sauce. Knowing what we know about Sauce and we 536 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: know he's he is very confident. Let's say Sauce is 537 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: sitting there at ten, would you trade up and go 538 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: get him? No, Okay, I don't think they do that, Johnny, 539 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I mean they would have 540 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: to really be in love with him to do that. 541 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: I think they'll stand. I don't see them trading up 542 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: in the first round, right, I could see them trading 543 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: up late into the first round, right, once we get 544 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, yeah, once we get down there, especially 545 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: if they made a deal, if they make your Falcons deal, 546 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: they drop down to eight. They have two twos and 547 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: three threes. Now we get late in the first round, 548 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: I could see him jumping up, although yeah, he still 549 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: has his second round pick at thirty seven. I could 550 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: see him moving up now six seven spots right there 551 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: to grab somebody who's available late on Thursday day night. 552 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: That could easily happen, in my opinion, and it costs 553 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: you less to do it at that point the draft 554 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: that it does to move up in the top ten, 555 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: even if you're already in the top ten. Yeah, I 556 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: think if you make that deal with the Falcons and 557 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: you have some ammunition, I wouldn't be surprised at that point, 558 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: if they got into the back end, the back part, 559 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the playoff team range of this draft, 560 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be totally surprised. But I've thought, 561 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: and I listen to Sean and Seth the other day 562 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: talk about this. They kind of did a longer version 563 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: of either or and shot at a great job kind 564 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: of titling different options, and yet it mixed and matched 565 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: the options he kind of had. Each one had a 566 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a theme to go along with it. 567 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: But I was so mad at him because I thought, man, 568 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that I love and consider 569 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: in this draft. And we've talked about three and thirteen, 570 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: and I know Drew has worked on pieces. All the 571 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: players have been drafted at three and all of them 572 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: been drafted at thirteen. I'm like, I don't think there's 573 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: a chance in haities we draft three and thirteen. I 574 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: don't think we're draft, you would say it's more likely 575 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: that at least one of those one of those were 576 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: one of those is traded. I'm not so sure about that. 577 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: I think things are gonna happen fast and furious. Now, 578 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: you did bring up the quarterback scenario, and again, I 579 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: think the quarterback scenario helps us at three, and by 580 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: trading out of three, you end up getting much more ammunition, 581 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: and you can you for the Texans. This is not 582 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: for every team, but I think for the Texans from 583 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: let's just say picks. Fuh, let's go Stingley. Could he 584 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: be a Texan? Yes? Could you see him as a 585 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: Texan QUANTU? Yes? Pick it? Probably probably not at that position, 586 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Tradmon Walker, Kyle Hamilton, those guys are all players that 587 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: I could see being Texans. So getting down to seven, eight, nine, 588 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: where a team might want to go get a quarterback, 589 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I think that would be a call. I would What 590 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: about what about Seattle at nine? One? Jump up? Well, 591 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: I thought about them. I thought about Seattle having some 592 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: of that ammunition from the Denver trade, and I thought 593 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: about them being a team that would possibly do it. 594 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: But I can't see because they've got let's see here, 595 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: let me see what they've got. I know they've got 596 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: they've got number, they've got number nine, they've got forty, 597 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: and they got forty one. So could I see Seattle 598 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: doing it? Yeah, I could see Seattle doing it. They've 599 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: got enough ammunition. They've got four in the top seventy two, 600 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: and they've got those two second round picks one number, 601 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: forty one number. What was the Mahomes deal? Chiefs moved 602 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: up from twenty seven to ten? It was just the 603 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: first rounder and no, no, no, they was. I mean 604 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: there was more than that, but it wasn't like two 605 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: years of first round now, but it was a third 606 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: rounder and they gave up there. It had to be 607 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: more than that and another first round. So if you 608 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: got twenty seven to ten, you're talking about yeah, I 609 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: mean twenty seven to ten. This is this is not 610 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: a draft value chart. Is Nick has been asked about that. 611 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: This is Jimmy Johnson came up with a long time ago. 612 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: Each pick has a particular value, right, So the the 613 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Texans are sitting at number thirteen, that's that's one thousand, 614 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty points. So you try and match 615 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: the trading team, like, okay, if we give you this 616 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: pick and this pick and this pick, it's got to 617 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: come close to matching that value, right, And going from 618 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: twenty seven to ten, it really would only take a 619 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: second rounder, a high second rounder, yeah, or a third 620 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: and a you know, a third and four or something 621 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: like that. So they only gave up one first. They 622 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: gave up the twenty eighteen first, and they got a 623 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: third out of it. And obviously they gave up their 624 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: first in twenty seventeen, all right, But the Texans only 625 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: gave up one first round pick to move up to 626 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: get Watson in that draft at number twelve overall because 627 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: they thirteen. What did the Bears give up for skill? 628 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: It was like a second and a third to go 629 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: one spot to go one spot to go one spot, 630 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: one spot. What you might not have needed to do? 631 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: When was the time the Texans went up one spot, oh, 632 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: to get will Fuller? They went up one spot to 633 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: get Fuller, Which is so interesting to me that you 634 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: feel the need to do that. But look, brick Smith 635 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: didn't do that for no reason. He felt like somebody 636 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: was going to jump up and grab his guy, and uh, 637 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, maybe there was a leverage situation. He just 638 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: went for he really wanted him. Yeah, at that point, 639 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: you gotta go get your guy. You don't have to 640 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: give up much to do it. Go go lock it in. Yeah, 641 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: go lock go lock it in. You want to get 642 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: the guy. And look, Will was a productive player when 643 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: he was on the field, well, of all the receivers there, right, yeah, 644 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: he was. He end up being the guy was he 645 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: was I think the best in that particular group. I 646 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: have to go back and look at it. But nobody 647 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: worked out great. Nobody worked out great among the elite 648 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: picks at receiver in that first round. No, I'd have 649 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: to go back and look. No, I can't want to 650 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: say that was was Corey Coleman in that group from Baylor, 651 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: Corey Coleman, Dockson was in there. God, it was terrible. 652 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: That was just a bad But there was debate. There 653 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: was debate, and you was debate. Well, it was not 654 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: stayed healthy and we all know that. You didn't need 655 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: me to repeat that to you right now. No, No, 656 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: we didn't. So you come out of there with Hamilton, 657 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: argue with Thibodeau. See how many people would go with that. 658 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: I didn't get all the way to thirty seven, So 659 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't know who I would have done. I'm just 660 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: doing a first round box. So here's my here's my 661 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: last question. Okay, and this does this does apply, but 662 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it applies. At three and thirteen, 663 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: David A. Jabo from out of Michigan tours Achilles in 664 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: his pro day workout in March. Now, you don't know 665 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: when he's gonna be ready. He could be ready. You know, 666 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: cam Akers was back in six months. Six months. Would 667 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: put a job in September, like, yeah, it's pretty early 668 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: in the season. He'd be a rookie pass rusher. He 669 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: is incredibly explosive in athletic but he's not getting picked 670 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: in the first round. How much you want? Really, if 671 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: you're not, if you're not sitting at that Okay, here's 672 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: here's at the bottom of the draft. Here's at the 673 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: bottom of the draft. To tell me that they wouldn't 674 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: take a fly? Oh yeah, you're right, you're right. What 675 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: am I saying? These teams that are live in the 676 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: life of luxury? The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, luxury problems, 677 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: you think Tampa Bay. Actually they need some fortification because 678 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: they're losing a few guys. They need somebody good Steph 679 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: Barrett may not be there much longer. They do have 680 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: Joe Trim, but that's where I have ojabwe going. The Packers, 681 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The Chiefs need an edge rush. You're in 682 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: the worst way. Ops. I think the three teams you 683 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: just mentioned they need I don't want to say they 684 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: need immediate help or they're doomed not to make the last, 685 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: but they need immediate help to contend. And in order 686 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: to contend, you want to go grab that by. There's 687 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: only one by. You want to grab the bye. You 688 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: want to be the elite team in your conference. Those 689 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: teams need guys they can plug in day one, and 690 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna take a while. They get the 691 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: full impact of a rookie performance. And good luck to you. 692 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: If you can get it, let you. I don't think 693 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna take an injured player. They give you a 694 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: team at twenty four, all right. The Dallas Cowboys, Yeah, 695 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: well they would do anything. Who knows what they do. 696 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they took they took Jalen Smith a couple 697 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: of years ago, a few years ago, and it panned 698 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: out as long as Jayla was healthy. And they waited 699 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: for a year and he came in. He gave him 700 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl year or two, but he just started 701 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: breaking down at the end of it. There were another one, Johnny. 702 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not in danger of not winning the division. 703 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: I mean it's possible, right the NFC, I could see 704 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: it a little bit more. Okay, because the NFC. I 705 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: think the NFC's right to be had. And so maybe 706 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: you take a risk or two in the NFC that 707 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't take any AFC because AFC you got to 708 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: fortify everything with what you gotta face. You make your 709 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: Falcons deal and he drops the thirty seven. Boom, Oh 710 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: now yeah thirty seven. Heck yeah, I'm taking back. This 711 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those stories to follow. Absolutely. 712 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: I take him at thirty seven. And to your point, 713 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I'm not gonna know that 714 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: at thirteen, but I'm sure as heck if he gets 715 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: the thirty seven, I'm jumping all over that, all over that. Now, 716 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Eagles a little while ago. The Eagles 717 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: of the Saints struck a deal. We'll give you that 718 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: deal and how it impacts this mock draft next right 719 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: here in Texans All Access Texans All Access Texans one 720 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: final segment of this edition of Texans All Access from 721 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris, 722 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: football analyst, sidelot reporter for your Houston Texans, and we 723 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: just went through this mock draft exercise, if you will. 724 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: And it's a hard one. I've always I've always said 725 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: mock drafts are so hard. They're fun to do, to 726 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: think about where players are gonna go. And of course 727 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: had three and thirteen for the Texans turned into eight 728 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: plus a second to third to third next year from Atlanta, 729 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: and thirteen, which turned into Kyle Hamilton's thirteen turned into 730 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: Cabon Thibadeau four. Mock draft purposes. Now, mock drafts get done. 731 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: And I had players all slotted ready to go. I 732 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: just hadn't written everything up just yet. And then Howie 733 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: Roseman and Mickey Loomis decided to change things up a 734 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: little bit. There's a trade now going into today. The 735 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: Eagles had picks fifteen, sixteen, and nineteen. One of those 736 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: came from the Dolphins in the Don't They Smith deal? 737 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: Like they went from six to twelve with the Dolphins. 738 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: Dolphins went back up to get Jalen Waddle the Eagles 739 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: dropped down. One of those comes from there, one of 740 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: those comes from the Colts because of the Carson Wentz deal, 741 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: so they had and then they had their own. So fifteen, sixteen, nineteen, 742 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: Well now they have fifteen, but they don't have sixteen 743 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: or nineteen anymore. They swapped with the Saints. The Saints 744 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: now have sixteen and nineteen and a sixth rounder at 745 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: one ninety four from the Eagles. The Eagles get the 746 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: Saints number one overall, which is number eighteen, So now 747 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles will drafted fifteen and eighteen PLU. They get 748 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: the Saints round three one oh one pick, They get 749 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: a seventh rounder this year, they get the Saints first 750 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: rounder next year, and they get a second rounder from 751 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: the Saints two years from now. So essentially, what the 752 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: Eagles did was take three first rounders instead of doing 753 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: it all this year, they decided to stretch that out, 754 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: so they'll have two first rounders in twenty twenty three, 755 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: and then they'll have presumably two second rounders in twenty 756 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. So they are taking their first round assets 757 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: and stretching them out the Saints. Why would the Saints 758 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: want multiple first round picks? This year trade ammunition looking 759 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: at a quarterback. And in my mock draft before all 760 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: this took place, I had the Eagles trading number sixteen, 761 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: but not to the Saints. They traded it to the 762 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Steelers moved up to sixteen, and 763 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers selected Desmond Ritter from Cincinnati the quarterback. Now 764 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: will the Saints with sixteen and nineteen, as I've seen 765 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: rumored out there, and I would have to think long 766 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: and hard about this now. I haven't looked at the 767 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: draft value chart to see whether this matches up. But 768 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: would the Saints now with sixteen and nineteen, which would 769 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: be a thousand and eighteen seventy five and it's close 770 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: they would have to add more. But would the Texans 771 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: move from three in trade for sixteen and nineteen and 772 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: additional picks that the Saints move up to three get 773 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: the quarterback or they're choosing That's one thing I've seen 774 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: out there. Hey, look, Houston New Orleans did talk about 775 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: a deal in the Deshaun Watson situation, like Carolina, like Atlanta, 776 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: that they have discussions. Hey, if this doesn't happen, we 777 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: may do this. Would you then want to make a deal. 778 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: So three to the Texans, I'm sorry, three to the Saints. 779 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: Texas gets sixteen and nineteen, already having thirteen and more. 780 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: Interesting interesting thought, interesting thought. We'll see what the Saints do, 781 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: but right now they have picks sixteen and nineteen Eagle 782 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: in the first round. The Eagles have fifteen and eighteen. 783 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: Mess up, my mock, but what are you gonna do. 784 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: It's just the way it goes. And that's a show 785 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: for this evening. A big thanks to Mark, to Austin, 786 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: to all you guys who listening. We'll see Tom everybody, 787 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.