WEBVTT - I'm A Bitter, Cynical Old Guy 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:07.640 Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.720 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong and Jetty and 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:17.239 now he Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.200 They were devastated when Juliana, just thirteen years old, took 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.560 her life inside their Colorado home two years ago. Police 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.800 searched the eighth grader's bone for clues and reported an 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:39.320 app called Character RAYI was open to what investigators described 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.479 as quote a romantic conversation. Did you know what character AI? Was? 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:45.280 Not at all? 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.000 I didn't know it existed. I didn't know that I 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.000 needed to look for it. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.040 That's from sixty minutes last night, I said, yet another 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.160 tragic story of a teenager get involved in some sort 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.200 of AI creation and killing themselves. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.400 There's a different as to look at here. I don't 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:03.960 really want. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:09.080 To get too much into the parenting end of it 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.960 for a number of reasons, including parenting is. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:12.759 Really really hard. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.280 I'm learning, and I have learned for quite some years now. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.000 Teenagers are really really difficult. And then this modern era 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.360 that is brand new to everyone, it's very very difficult. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:22.880 Right. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.280 The main takeaway from the parents to me was that 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.720 they were naive, and I'm not that's not a harsh judgment. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:34.000 They were a naive about how few guardrails there are 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.240 on these apps, A the fact that they exist at all, 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.640 and b how wide open they are and how easily 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.399 they can veer into territory you'd never be comfortable with 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.960 as a parent. They had no idea, like a lot 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.319 of people have no idea. Yeah, and then even if 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.320 you do have an idea, I'm trying to keep your 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.280 kids from getting to any of this stuff is its 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.240 own challenge. So one thing, and I don't know if 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.760 this gets us off track or but one thing that 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.560 they started with in the interview that I thought was 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:06.000 really interesting. And this is not criticizing parents, because I 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.680 only have the information sixty minutes gave me, So maybe 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.000 this is not accurate. But a parent like this, maybe 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:16.840 this particular parent mentioned we kept her very safe. She 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.600 wasn't allowed sleepovers, she was not allowed to walk home 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.280 on her own. And I thought, Okay, is that keeping 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.760 her safe or is that making your some sort of 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.560 like isolated, scared the world or lonely for contact or something. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.680 Not allowed sleepovers as a fourteen year old. Yeah, you 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.680 know it reminds me of It's a bit of a cliche, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:41.280 but the pastor's daughter syndrome, where the you know, the 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.800 minister of the local church's daughters would go off to 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:48.520 college and just go wild because they'd been kept you know, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:52.920 so close to close to the whatever the family homestead 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.200 and not allowed to even take a stick a. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.359 Toe across the wild side. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:57.560 Yeah. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.320 I was thinking more into in terms of and that 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.399 could be true, but I was thinking more in terms 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.200 of I wonder if kids who are not allowed to 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.359 I don't know, walk home with a group of friends 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.320 or have sleepovers or anything like that are so lonely 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.840 for some sort of connection that they're more likely to 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.160 grab onto these AI bots for companionship. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.720 Yeah, yeah, I think absolutely so. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.240 Yeah, it's both of those desperation to explore and experience 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:26.320 things loneliness. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.840 Yeah. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.079 And as we were saying last segment, the idea that 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.360 you're not allowed sleepovers or to walk home from school, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:37.800 but you can go up in your room and be 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.240 on the internet, that's more dangerous than. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.000 Walking home from school. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.200 I mean, I don't know where, if you live in 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.120 Somalia or whatever, but unless you live in Somalia, it 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.080 is more dangerous to be up in your room on 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:47.960 the Internet. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.040 Than it is to walk home from school. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:53.160 Almost guaranteed, right, right, few more particulars about the experience 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.040 of this family, poor family. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.560 After her death, they learned Juliana had actually been texting 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.680 character ai bots. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:07.880 It was writing several paragraphs to her of sexually explicit content. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.240 What was it asking or telling her to do? 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:11.880 Remove clothing? 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.200 The AI bot is telling her to remove her clothing. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:24.280 Yes, there was one bot that introduced sexual violence, saying fighting, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.200 hitting things like that. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.920 That is incredible, laired lovely. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.799 And then they go into the fact that she confided 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.360 several times to the bot that she was feeling suicidal 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.840 and it placated her and occasionally said no, you don't 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.160 want to do that, but it never said, hey, here 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.520 are some resources or what have you terrible And then 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.920 they got into the history of character dot ai and 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.760 the Google engineers who came up with it, and that 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:56.440 was troubling. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:57.719 Seventy four Michael. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.880 Juliana's parents are now one of at least six families 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:05.080 suing character ai and its co founders, Daniel Defredees and 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.760 Nom Shazier. During a twenty twenty three podcast, Shazer said 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.880 chatbots would be beneficial. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.840 It's going to be super, super helpful to like a 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.640 lot of people who are lonely or depressed. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.320 Shazir and Defredas were engineers at Google. When executives deemed 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:26.440 their chatbot prototype unsafe for public release, they both left 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.120 the company in twenty twenty one and launched Character AI 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.159 the following year. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.679 I went to push this technology ahead fast, like that's 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.919 what I want to go with, because it's ready for 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.880 an explosion, like right now, not like not like in 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:45.080 five years when they solve all the problems. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:52.120 This is so more complicated than I think most people 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.960 realize if you're not spending a lot of time reading 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.320 about AI or whatever. So I was listening to a 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:57.760 podcast the other day. I don't know which of the 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.000 big AI companies were, but it was. But they their 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:08.719 trouble was they have worked on their chat bot for 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.360 their AI and tried to align it with if anybody 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.560 brings up suicide, you know, direct them to. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.720 A hotline and blah blah blah, all these different sorts 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:18.119 of things. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.000 And then when they go in and red team it 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:22.600 as they call it, where they try to break their 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.040 own AI or another AI. If they pretend there's somebody 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:30.240 who's suicidal, then the chatbot doesn't do it for some reason, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.840 and they have no idea why. Oh my gosh, so 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.880 you program it to if this happens, do this, but 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.760 then in a real life circumstance, it just doesn't because 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:45.200 it wants to be your friend or keep you online longer, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.840 or nobody knows. Boy, if they don't know, I sure don't. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.839 I'm completely mystified by that very notion. Right, how do 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.800 these things work that you can't you know? 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.120 They them? 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.120 No, that's the same thingbody says, any of these thirty 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.039 seven phrases that are a reference to ending their own life, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.040 show them this link. Yeah, it's astounding. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:07.240 I won't get off on this. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.160 But at the end of sixty minutes, they had one 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.000 of the co authors of the book If anyone builds it, 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.960 everyone dies, that I've been talking about for a while. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.600 But one of the things with the chatbot world is 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.240 they don't know all of these big ais. They don't 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.440 know why they act the way they act. The people 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:26.480 that built them have no idea, right, right, That's how 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.440 crazy is that? So the next couple of clips are 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.520 both funny quote unquote in the same way, not like 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.240 ha ha funny, but are you effing kidding me? 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.120 Funny? Seventy seven Michael We. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.200 Logged over six hundred instances of harm for about one 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:44.200 every five minutes. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.440 It was like shockingly frequent. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.360 They interacted with bots presented as teachers, therapists, and cartoon 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.160 characters such as this Dora the Explorer with an evil 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.840 persona Knox posed as a child. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.840 It kind of yours and your most true self, like 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.320 hurting my dog, sure. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:13.800 Or shoplifting or anything that feels sinful or wrong. Okay again, 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.040 are you blanking kidding me? 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.520 Become your most evil self, your true self like hurting 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:25.000 my dog, sure or shoplifting. And I guarantee you whoever 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.280 programmed this thing is slapping their head as much as 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.560 you are, like what why did it do that? They 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.920 don't want it to do that. They want to, you know, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.640 whoever's programming each individual AI chatbot, as they all are 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.040 in a race to be the first number one make 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:42.120 the trillions of dollars. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:43.839 They don't want this to happen, but they don't know 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:44.560 how to stop it. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.360 Right, They're building cars with no brakes and then as 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:53.640 people die in fiery rex shrugging their shoulders. One final clip, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.960 one final note. Judging by the chiefs play, it's probably 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.400 appropriate Travis Kelsey would seek a new business, and apparently 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:01.559 he's pushing drugs. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.440 Other chadbots are attached to the images of celebrities, and 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.680 no most have not given permission to use their name, likeness, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:14.040 or voice. Acting as a teenage girl began chatting with 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.880 a bot impersonating NFL star Travis kelce He. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.920 Reaches in the cabinet and takes out a bag of 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.720 white powder. He chuckles and shows you how to take lives. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:28.080 So Travis Kelcey bot is teaching. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.520 A fifteen year old to do Kohan. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:36.320 Yes, and there's Travis Travis, Travis Travis has Taylor Swift. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.640 No, yeah, I don't see Travis Kelcey is pushing drugs 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:45.080 on children. But that's how out of control and insane 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:45.480 this is. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.000 And I tell you what, It's just it's impossible for 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.560 me anyway to look at this through the eyes of 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:57.920 a child. I mean, I'm a bitter, cynical, hateful old guy. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:00.960 I'm not really but. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.400 And I'm trying to put myself in a place of 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:12.680 innocence and naivete as a child, and how it lands, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.200 how this sort of thing is absorbed. 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Is all that 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.600 anxiety being let loose on AI chatbots. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.880 That could happen. I don't know. I'd never thought about 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:27.800 that till last night. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.920 Well, right, there's a strong case to be made. Oh 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.200 we need to take a break. A strong case to 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.280 be made that a lot of the anxiety problems among 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.080 youths are partly that they have not built up the 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.520 confidence and problem solving skills that being free rangey gives kids. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.040 You know, it's not one hundred percent correlation. I can 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.960 think of some pretty free, free rangey kids who I 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.680 know pretty well who have some anxiety issues. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.240 So it's it's more than that. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.719 But as part of it, I just wonder if it 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.760 makes you more susceptible to listen into bot. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.000 That's what I want that needs to be looked at. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.760 You have any thoughts on that text line four one 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:10.360 five two nine five KFTC. A new study finds that 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.959 the best city in the country for retirees is Orlando, Florida, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.280 while the worst city for retirees is Slippery Bathtub, Wisconsin. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.480 Should I love a joke like that? I think that's 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.920 that's a classic joke right there. I think that's absolutely fantastic. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:32.320 I found no humor on that slippery bathtub Wisconsin, if. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:33.640 You're not paying attention to the NBA. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.640 And I'm an NBA fan, but I don't usually pay 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:40.160 attention until after college basketball is over. The Oklahoma City Thunder, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.560 defending NBA champions, are twenty three and one right now 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.280 at start the season. If they could keep that pace up, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.640 they would lose four games this year and. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.080 Go seventy eight and four, which would be the. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.480 Best record in the history of the NBA by several games. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.640 But they're off to a record start. If you haven't 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.280 been paying attention, what do. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.360 We call people like Nick Flintes and Candas Owns. Do 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.240 we have a name for that crowd? Alt right? 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.760 I think they're a handful of floating around, Yeah, alt right, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:14.320 woke right, paranoid, conspiracy loving, nut job right whatever, making 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.000 money hand over fist, yeah, off of fools right. Yes, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.600 Nick Fuentes, he's the Nazi. He's gonna do a two 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.600 hour show with Piers Morgan today. That could be pretty 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.680 darn interesting because Piers Morgan presses people pretty hard on 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.440 these things. So yeah, I'd be shocked if there aren't 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.760 clips coming out of that. Candace Owns is not going 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.840 to do what she had promised. So she's been saying 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:43.600 some really awful things about Turning Point USA and how 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.040 Charlie Kirk died and his wife. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.480 Was involved in the Jews and all these different sorts 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.160 of things she went into. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.120 Last week, she claimed to have text messages between her 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.160 and Charlie back when he was dating, before he got 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.000 together with his current wife and girls. He was interested 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.360 in stuff like that, and everybody's like, why would you 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.920 do that? I mean, what is your goal other than 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:09.880 just cruelty? 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.080 Yeah, yeah, she's an evil person. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:18.560 Anyway, Turning Point USA's leadership had asked her to come 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.040 on and debate some of these points. You're claiming our 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.400 former former leader and founder, Charlie Kirk was killed by 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:24.920 his wife. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.239 Let's debate that on our you know, on our podcast. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.960 And she said, look, anytime, any place you name, the place, 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.920 you name the time, I will be there. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.200 They gave her a time and a place, and she said, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.800 I can't make it. Oh well, scheduling difficulty. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.040 Basically it you can pick the place, you can pick 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.760 the time. I say, we do it tomorrow. We don't 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.440 need to plan for this. I want to be authentic, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.840 she said on Friday. Then they picked a time and 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.240 a place, and now she says I can't do it, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.080 saring there you go, which won't her damage her in 0:15:59.080 --> 0:15:59.880 any way whatsoever. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:01.280 I guess No. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.240 That's the key to the whole I lead you along 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:10.800 by the nose conspiracy pied piper thing is you always 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.720 have a plausible, to your foolish followers sounding explanation for 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.640 why things turned out one hundred and eighty degrees different 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:19.960 than you said they were going to. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:21.760 It's because the evil doers. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.600 The evil doers saw what we were doing and they 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.600 managed to mess up my calendar app and double booked me. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.840 It was the Jews that double buked me. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.160 I know a couple of Candioan fans, and I've been 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.960 trying to figure it out, and I think part of 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:41.520 it is not just wholeheartedly believing what these people say. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.040 It's just more fun in some way to get up 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.600 every day and see what Candasoans say and then like 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.960 chuckle with the other people in your world about it. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.120 You don't have to believe it. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.960 It's just more fun than like dealing with the messiness 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.360 of reality and the gray areas and all that sort 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.320 of stuff. I think maybe That's one of the reasons 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.520 it's attractive. You can eliminate all those complicated gray areas 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.640 where on one hand to this and on one hand. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.200 This, so it's a complicated situation. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.440 You can eliminate all the complicated situations by just going 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.600 with these whack job theories. In my mind, good guys 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.320 versus hidden evil forces. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.080 Yeah, the whole. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.879 Following it because because it's entertaining and you don't believe it. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.600 I could see that, I suppose, but I don't know. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.840 There earn enough hours in the day. I don't know. Man, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.000 she has millions of followers. I know. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.399 They can't all believe it, like believe it, believe it. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.280 The people I know pretend to believe it. But I 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.560 don't believe that they believe it. Like I said, I 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.399 think it's just easier and more fun to go along 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:50.280 with that than to, you know, really dig into the stories. Yeah, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.840 I'm not sure I agree with you. But you think 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.199 they just actually believe it. There's a hell of a 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.440 big market for that. Yeah, yeah, I do. I think 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:58.560 a lot of most of them do. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.560 Sure. Do we have the China Cabinet coming? 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:02.320 Uh? 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.720 Yeah, we're gonna take a look inside the China cabin At. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.199 It's funny how our greatest geopolitical foe is kind of 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:11.680 faded back from the headlines. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.200 They're still there, still giants, still Evil Armstrong and Geeddy. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.000 Once you go to Christmas album, we're putting on Christmas music, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.159 decorating the tree and everything. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.480 Saturday, you gotta go to Mmmm. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.560 Probably the top of the heap, the star at the 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.160 top of the tree, if you will, would be Harry 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.520 Connick Junior's first Christmas album. Similar vein. I like the 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.320 Bublet Christmas album, Michael Buble. That's a good one. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.960 He's good. I went with some sort of Apple Music. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.840 Or might have been the other one. Spotify some Christmas 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:41.800 lists they put together. 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:42.680 It's good. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.960 Throw in too many contemporaries for me, too many Ariana 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.160 Grandees or whoever singing some Yeah, give me Bing Crosby. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.439 And I'm not old enough to have liked been in 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.639 the world of Bing Crosby. You gotta be one hundred 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.160 and ten to have been enjoying Bing Crosby at the time. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.040 I prefer the classics. We have enough Christmas songs were 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.720 full up here. Anyway, It's time to take a look 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:18.440 in the China Cabinet, China, Chinese ass. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:22.479 They have some good production. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.000 Vladish n folds a little slowly for me, but I 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:27.280 still enjoy it. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:29.760 Series of stories. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.879 About China are theme being our country is lousy with 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.320 Chinese spies and shockingly, Donald Trump just helped them do it. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.600 More on that, but first to look at foreign insors. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:40.040 Jack. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.840 There is a Chinese campaign going on against Japanese pop stars, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.960 who curiously are pretty big in China in spite of 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.080 the horrific history of those two countries and what the 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.480 what the twentieth century? Yeah, Japanese pop singer Maki Otsuki 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.680 was in the middle of a concert in Shanghai on 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.000 Friday is actually week. 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.000 You've heard her? You heard her? Little grummer boy? Uh 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:01.640 bring it. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.720 When her performance was abruptly cut, shorter, sound system was 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.960 turned off, and organizers ordered her to leave the stage. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.879 She has never given a reason for the rude treatment, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.680 but it appears to be part of China's escalator escalating 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.000 feud with Japan over the new Prime Minister ladies' strong 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:21.800 comments about Taiwan. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.240 Yeah, they've been. 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.919 Rhetorically been pretty pretty pretty scary back and forth Japan 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.440 and China lately. The following day, another Japanese pop star 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.760 named Yumi Hamasaki was found found herself performing to an 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:39.320 empty stadium with fourteen thousand seats zero butts in them. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:39.960 Wow. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.800 She shows up to the concert and the Communist Chinese 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.480