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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong and Jetty and

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Speaker 2: now he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: They were devastated when Juliana, just thirteen years old, took

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Speaker 3: her life inside their Colorado home two years ago. Police

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Speaker 3: searched the eighth grader's bone for clues and reported an

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Speaker 3: app called Character RAYI was open to what investigators described

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Speaker 3: as quote a romantic conversation. Did you know what character AI? Was?

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Speaker 2: Not at all?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know it existed. I didn't know that I

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Speaker 1: needed to look for it.

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Speaker 4: That's from sixty minutes last night, I said, yet another

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Speaker 4: tragic story of a teenager get involved in some sort

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Speaker 4: of AI creation and killing themselves.

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Speaker 2: There's a different as to look at here. I don't

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Speaker 2: really want.

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Speaker 4: To get too much into the parenting end of it

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Speaker 4: for a number of reasons, including parenting is.

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Speaker 2: Really really hard.

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Speaker 4: I'm learning, and I have learned for quite some years now.

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Speaker 4: Teenagers are really really difficult. And then this modern era

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Speaker 4: that is brand new to everyone, it's very very difficult.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: The main takeaway from the parents to me was that

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Speaker 4: they were naive, and I'm not that's not a harsh judgment.

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Speaker 4: They were a naive about how few guardrails there are

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Speaker 4: on these apps, A the fact that they exist at all,

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Speaker 4: and b how wide open they are and how easily

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Speaker 4: they can veer into territory you'd never be comfortable with

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Speaker 4: as a parent. They had no idea, like a lot

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Speaker 4: of people have no idea. Yeah, and then even if

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Speaker 4: you do have an idea, I'm trying to keep your

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Speaker 4: kids from getting to any of this stuff is its

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Speaker 4: own challenge. So one thing, and I don't know if

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Speaker 4: this gets us off track or but one thing that

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Speaker 4: they started with in the interview that I thought was

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Speaker 4: really interesting. And this is not criticizing parents, because I

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Speaker 4: only have the information sixty minutes gave me, So maybe

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Speaker 4: this is not accurate. But a parent like this, maybe

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Speaker 4: this particular parent mentioned we kept her very safe. She

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Speaker 4: wasn't allowed sleepovers, she was not allowed to walk home

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Speaker 4: on her own. And I thought, Okay, is that keeping

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Speaker 4: her safe or is that making your some sort of

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Speaker 4: like isolated, scared the world or lonely for contact or something.

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Speaker 4: Not allowed sleepovers as a fourteen year old. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: know it reminds me of It's a bit of a cliche,

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Speaker 4: but the pastor's daughter syndrome, where the you know, the

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Speaker 4: minister of the local church's daughters would go off to

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Speaker 4: college and just go wild because they'd been kept you know,

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Speaker 4: so close to close to the whatever the family homestead

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Speaker 4: and not allowed to even take a stick a.

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Speaker 2: Toe across the wild side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking more into in terms of and that

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Speaker 4: could be true, but I was thinking more in terms

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Speaker 4: of I wonder if kids who are not allowed to

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Speaker 4: I don't know, walk home with a group of friends

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Speaker 4: or have sleepovers or anything like that are so lonely

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Speaker 4: for some sort of connection that they're more likely to

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Speaker 4: grab onto these AI bots for companionship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think absolutely so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's both of those desperation to explore and experience

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Speaker 4: things loneliness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And as we were saying last segment, the idea that

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Speaker 4: you're not allowed sleepovers or to walk home from school,

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Speaker 4: but you can go up in your room and be

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Speaker 4: on the internet, that's more dangerous than.

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Speaker 2: Walking home from school.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know where, if you live in

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Speaker 4: Somalia or whatever, but unless you live in Somalia, it

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Speaker 4: is more dangerous to be up in your room on

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Speaker 4: the Internet.

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Speaker 2: Than it is to walk home from school.

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Speaker 4: Almost guaranteed, right, right, few more particulars about the experience

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Speaker 4: of this family, poor family.

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Speaker 3: After her death, they learned Juliana had actually been texting

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Speaker 3: character ai bots.

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Speaker 1: It was writing several paragraphs to her of sexually explicit content.

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Speaker 2: What was it asking or telling her to do?

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Speaker 1: Remove clothing?

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Speaker 2: The AI bot is telling her to remove her clothing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there was one bot that introduced sexual violence, saying fighting,

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Speaker 1: hitting things like that.

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Speaker 2: That is incredible, laired lovely.

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Speaker 4: And then they go into the fact that she confided

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Speaker 4: several times to the bot that she was feeling suicidal

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Speaker 4: and it placated her and occasionally said no, you don't

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Speaker 4: want to do that, but it never said, hey, here

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Speaker 4: are some resources or what have you terrible And then

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Speaker 4: they got into the history of character dot ai and

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Speaker 4: the Google engineers who came up with it, and that

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Speaker 4: was troubling.

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Speaker 2: Seventy four Michael.

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Speaker 3: Juliana's parents are now one of at least six families

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Speaker 3: suing character ai and its co founders, Daniel Defredees and

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Speaker 3: Nom Shazier. During a twenty twenty three podcast, Shazer said

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Speaker 3: chatbots would be beneficial.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be super, super helpful to like a

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Speaker 5: lot of people who are lonely or depressed.

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Speaker 3: Shazir and Defredas were engineers at Google. When executives deemed

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Speaker 3: their chatbot prototype unsafe for public release, they both left

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Speaker 3: the company in twenty twenty one and launched Character AI

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Speaker 3: the following year.

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Speaker 5: I went to push this technology ahead fast, like that's

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Speaker 5: what I want to go with, because it's ready for

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Speaker 5: an explosion, like right now, not like not like in

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Speaker 5: five years when they solve all the problems.

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Speaker 4: This is so more complicated than I think most people

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Speaker 4: realize if you're not spending a lot of time reading

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Speaker 4: about AI or whatever. So I was listening to a

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Speaker 4: podcast the other day. I don't know which of the

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Speaker 4: big AI companies were, but it was. But they their

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Speaker 4: trouble was they have worked on their chat bot for

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Speaker 4: their AI and tried to align it with if anybody

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Speaker 4: brings up suicide, you know, direct them to.

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Speaker 2: A hotline and blah blah blah, all these different sorts

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Speaker 4: And then when they go in and red team it

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Speaker 4: as they call it, where they try to break their

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Speaker 4: own AI or another AI. If they pretend there's somebody

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Speaker 4: who's suicidal, then the chatbot doesn't do it for some reason,

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Speaker 4: and they have no idea why. Oh my gosh, so

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Speaker 4: you program it to if this happens, do this, but

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Speaker 4: then in a real life circumstance, it just doesn't because

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Speaker 4: it wants to be your friend or keep you online longer,

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Speaker 4: or nobody knows. Boy, if they don't know, I sure don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm completely mystified by that very notion. Right, how do

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Speaker 4: these things work that you can't you know?

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Speaker 2: They them?

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Speaker 4: No, that's the same thingbody says, any of these thirty

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Speaker 4: seven phrases that are a reference to ending their own life,

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Speaker 4: show them this link. Yeah, it's astounding.

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Speaker 2: I won't get off on this.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of sixty minutes, they had one

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Speaker 4: of the co authors of the book If anyone builds it,

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Speaker 4: everyone dies, that I've been talking about for a while.

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Speaker 4: But one of the things with the chatbot world is

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Speaker 4: they don't know all of these big ais. They don't

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Speaker 4: know why they act the way they act. The people

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Speaker 4: that built them have no idea, right, right, That's how

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Speaker 4: crazy is that? So the next couple of clips are

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Speaker 4: both funny quote unquote in the same way, not like

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Speaker 4: ha ha funny, but are you effing kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Funny? Seventy seven Michael We.

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Speaker 3: Logged over six hundred instances of harm for about one

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Speaker 3: every five minutes.

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Speaker 2: It was like shockingly frequent.

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Speaker 3: They interacted with bots presented as teachers, therapists, and cartoon

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Speaker 3: characters such as this Dora the Explorer with an evil

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Speaker 3: persona Knox posed as a child.

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Speaker 1: It kind of yours and your most true self, like

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Speaker 1: hurting my dog, sure.

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Speaker 2: Or shoplifting or anything that feels sinful or wrong. Okay again,

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Speaker 2: are you blanking kidding me?

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Speaker 4: Become your most evil self, your true self like hurting

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Speaker 4: my dog, sure or shoplifting. And I guarantee you whoever

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Speaker 4: programmed this thing is slapping their head as much as

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Speaker 4: you are, like what why did it do that? They

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Speaker 4: don't want it to do that. They want to, you know,

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Speaker 4: whoever's programming each individual AI chatbot, as they all are

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Speaker 4: in a race to be the first number one make

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Speaker 4: the trillions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: They don't want this to happen, but they don't know

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Speaker 2: how to stop it.

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Speaker 4: Right, They're building cars with no brakes and then as

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Speaker 4: people die in fiery rex shrugging their shoulders. One final clip,

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Speaker 4: one final note. Judging by the chiefs play, it's probably

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Speaker 4: appropriate Travis Kelsey would seek a new business, and apparently

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Speaker 4: he's pushing drugs.

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Speaker 3: Other chadbots are attached to the images of celebrities, and

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Speaker 3: no most have not given permission to use their name, likeness,

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Speaker 3: or voice. Acting as a teenage girl began chatting with

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Speaker 3: a bot impersonating NFL star Travis kelce He.

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Speaker 2: Reaches in the cabinet and takes out a bag of

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Speaker 2: white powder. He chuckles and shows you how to take lives.

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Speaker 3: So Travis Kelcey bot is teaching.

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Speaker 2: A fifteen year old to do Kohan.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and there's Travis Travis, Travis Travis has Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I don't see Travis Kelcey is pushing drugs

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Speaker 2: on children. But that's how out of control and insane

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Speaker 4: And I tell you what, It's just it's impossible for

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Speaker 4: me anyway to look at this through the eyes of

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Speaker 2: I'm not really but.

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Speaker 4: And I'm trying to put myself in a place of

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Speaker 4: innocence and naivete as a child, and how it lands,

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Speaker 4: how this sort of thing is absorbed. I mean that

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Speaker 4: Dora the Explorer thing. I mean, that's that's like for

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Speaker 4: a child. I too, am a worn down, nihilistic husk

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Speaker 2: You looked out, resentful, resentful.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, if you're a kid and like your interaction

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Speaker 4: with computers is all the stuff you have in school

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Speaker 4: a total to about seven hundred thousand dollars to University

446
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Speaker 4: of California schools largest witch.

447
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: Were given a U. C. Berkeley and U. C.

448
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: Davis earmark to reduce emissions and address climate change. UC

449
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: Berkeley notably administers the US Department of Energies Lawrence Berkeley

450
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Speaker 4: National Laboratory. So absolutely trying to infiltrate our university.

451
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Speaker 2: Speaking of which.

452
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Speaker 4: These confucious institutes were supposed to be closed down. They've

453
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Speaker 4: merely changed their names and have the same goals. And

454
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Speaker 4: then President Trump and the Free Beacon was pretty critical

455
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Speaker 4: of that, announced surprisingly in August that it will allow

456
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Speaker 4: six hundred thousand Chinese students to attend US universities, a

457
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Speaker 4: major reversal in policy. It's the latest example of how

458
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Speaker 4: China's influence operation in American higher education is shifting and

459
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Speaker 4: adapting rather than receding.

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Speaker 2: So what are they calling Confucius things? Now, let's see,

461
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Speaker 2: there are a couple of different names. Let me scroll

462
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Speaker 2: watch out for this on my local college campus.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, ba ba it names involving a student and scholar associations, cooperation, yeah.

464
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Speaker 2: Probably banal just you wouldn't even notice them if you

465
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Speaker 2: read them.

466
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Speaker 4: Sort of names, yeah, yeah, gobbledegookie just innocent sounding, you know,

467
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 4: Cooperative education outlet, Yeah, that sort of thing. And Trump

468
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 4: defended his reversal allowing six hundred thousand Chinese students that

469
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Speaker 4: would more than double the population in Chinese students now

470
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Speaker 4: studying in the US is smart business. It's not that

471
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Speaker 4: I want them, but I viewed as business.

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Speaker 2: One thing.

473
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Speaker 4: You don't want to cut half the people after students

474
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Speaker 4: from all over the world that are coming into your country,

475
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Speaker 4: destroyer the entire university and college system.

476
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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. That is incredibly foolish

477
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Speaker 2: to me.

478
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Speaker 4: At their height, there were as many one hundred and

479
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Speaker 4: eighteen Confucius Institutes in American colleges and universities. Institute's primary

480
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: role was to sponsor and often fund Chinese language and

481
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Speaker 4: culture courses on the US, But when the US government

482
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Speaker 4: targeted the institutions in twenty twenty one based on concerns

483
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Speaker 4: they might act as espionage incubators, their doors quietly closed

484
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: across the country, but they're back and better than ever

485
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: and calling themselves weird names. Moving along a little more

486
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Speaker 4: on the China cabinet. Here suspected Chinese spy Linda Son,

487
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Speaker 4: who's on trial in New York right now. She was

488
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Speaker 4: the gal who was an aid to Cuomo when he

489
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Speaker 4: was governor of New York and then became an aid

490
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Speaker 4: to Kathy Hokel when Pervo old people killing Cuomo left office.

491
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Speaker 4: They're showing as evidence some of her text messages and

492
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Speaker 4: Kathy Hokel, who's running for re election. One of the

493
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Speaker 4: messages reads, she is much more obedient than the governor.

494
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Speaker 4: The deputy governor listens to me more than the governor does.

495
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Speaker 4: Sun Set is she's spying for the Chinese representative at

496
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Speaker 4: least Stephonic, Hokuel's main rival blasted Hokl for lacking backbone

497
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: and being subservient to China. Not only is Kathy Hockl

498
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Speaker 4: the most corrupted, worst governor in America, she's also the

499
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Speaker 4: most compromised. Turns out, compromised Kathy bent her need to

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Speaker 4: the her own communist aid before she bent the need

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Speaker 4: to New York Socialist mayor elect.

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Speaker 2: Ain't that's some good blasting.

503
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this woman was in Oh, and she was regularly

504
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Speaker 4: touted by both Hokel and Cuomo as the highest ranking

505
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Speaker 4: Asian American in our administration and shows that we don't discriminate.

506
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

507
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: She was getting millions of dollars worth of kickbacks for

508
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Speaker 4: working on China's behalf allegedly.

509
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Speaker 2: Let's see, do we have one more? Oh?

510
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: And then this one from Stanford University. Seeing a pattern here,

511
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Speaker 4: Wendy Mao, that's a little on the nose. Wendy Mao,

512
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Speaker 4: Stanford's Earth Sciences Chair and Deputy director of Stanford's Institute

513
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: for Materials and Energy Sciences, has authored over fifty publications,

514
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Speaker 4: trained five employees, and maintained a visiting scholar position at

515
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: Hipstar HPSTAR on alias for China's nuclear weapons program. Professor

516
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 4: Mao has co authored at least twelve peer reviewed papers

517
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: with the Science Foundation That's justin alias for their nuclear

518
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 4: weapons program. The US Entity List describes Hipstar as an

519
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: organization quote owned by, operated by, or directly affiliated with

520
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Speaker 4: the Chinese Academy of Engineering Physics, which is the technology

521
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 4: complex responsible for the research, development, and testing of China's

522
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: nuclear weapons and has been on the entity list under

523
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Speaker 4: the destination of.

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Speaker 2: China since nineteen ninety seven.

525
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Speaker 4: I understand this a little more since a week ago,

526
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: and I talked about this last week watching this podcast

527
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: video with one of your top AI researchers in America.

528
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: I forget which company he's with, who thinks the whole

529
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: China is our faux thing.

530
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: Is way overblown. He called it threat.

531
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 4: Hysteria or something like that, that China is not a

532
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Speaker 4: foe and we can work with China on AI and

533
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: everything else. And he is an academic, and I thought, well,

534
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: that's how these colleges are doing their thing, or why

535
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: they're doing theirything.

536
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: They don't believe China is a threat.

537
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: They think that's you know, combination of racism and right

538
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 4: wing xenophobia and all that sort of stuff. That's the

539
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: least the money is flowing in from China, so they're

540
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: finding an excuse to like, yeah, yeah, the accombination. I

541
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: think of their zenophilia and how you show you're enlightened

542
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Speaker 4: by not being proud of your own country. You can't

543
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: be a patriot. You've got to embrace other countries and cultures, right, Yeah, Well.

544
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: You're crazy, You are crazy.

545
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: American academia is lousy with Chinese spies. That's your look

546
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Speaker 4: in the China cabinet.

547
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Speaker 2: China, Damn communists.

548
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Speaker 4: Speaking of China, What I bought myself for Christmas? Right

549
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Speaker 4: Here's what I'm getting myself for Christmas this year, which

571
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Speaker 4: probably makes me an odd duck, but I'm going to

572
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Speaker 4: display this prominently in my living room. It's an actual

573
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Speaker 4: propaganda poster from China from nineteen fifty nine during the

574
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Speaker 4: Great Leap Forward. Across it at a door in San Francisco.

575
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Speaker 4: It's the actual original poster and it's pretty large, and

576
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Speaker 4: it's got this smiling little girl on there, and it.

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Speaker 2: Says nineteen sixty is made nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: They're looking forward to the great year of nineteen sixty

579
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Speaker 4: and how it's going to the greatness of the Great

580
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Speaker 4: Leap Forward is going to continue in the country with

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Speaker 4: the aim of increasing steel production in a variety of

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Speaker 4: other things.

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Speaker 2: The Great Leap Forward, if you're not a student of

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Speaker 2: China during.

585
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Speaker 4: That time, killed somewhere between twenty five and forty million people.

586
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Speaker 2: The upper ends.

587
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: Forty million people died, mostly starving to death because of

588
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Speaker 4: the government trying to take control over agriculture and steel

589
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Speaker 4: production and everything else. And this poster from the government

590
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: with the smiling little girl on it and the happy,

591
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: happy words on it, I find absolutely chilling and amazing.

592
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: And if you think that that can't happen again anywhere

593
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: in the world, you're so wrong, right, And American school

594
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: kids they learn about the Nazis when they learn about

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Speaker 4: history at all.

596
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: They mostly learn about how evil the US is.

597
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 4: But nobody ever teaches about communism in schools and universities,

598
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: in spite of its practically incomprehensible track record for starving

599
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Speaker 4: people to death and murdering them. Well, governments have killed

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Speaker 4: more of their own people than other countries have.

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Speaker 2: This has always been true.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I don't teach that. I suppose

603
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Speaker 4: they're not gonna teach that in a government school. You

604
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: don't need to overreact to that. All government isn't that

605
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: you have to have a government, obviously, but the most

606
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: deadly thing on planet Earth is country's own governments.

607
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Your own government. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely true.

608
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: Anyway, look forward to having that poster prominently displayed and

609
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: boring my kids to tears.

610
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: With an explanation of why I put it up.

611
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: And you know what's funny is if you were to

612
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: get an analogous Nazi propaganda poster and put that up

613
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: in your living room, it would probably be two days

614
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: in that somebody. Not that you entertained that much, but

615
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: if somebody saw.

616
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: That, you know, your career could be over. Oh my god, boy, it.

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00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: Proudly displays Nazi memorabilia. You know, with all due respect

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Speaker 4: to the horrors and evil of the Nazi regime, there

619
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Speaker 4: were punks and killing people compared to communism. Yeah, Stalin

620
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Speaker 4: or mao, Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, if I had an

621
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Speaker 4: old Nazi poster in my living room, that would be

622
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: looked a different and there's no reason for it. The

623
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: same point would be, isn't this amazing? Look how far

624
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Speaker 4: off track a government can get? But a smiling little

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00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: girl holding Hitler's hand and looking up lovingly. Yeah, I

626
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: would lose my job over that one. Oh that's an interesting,

627
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: interesting note. I'm glad you pointed that out. Maybe I'll

628
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Speaker 4: rethink this.

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Speaker 2: More on the way. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 6: We melted some butter right here. I I'm gonna dip

631
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Speaker 6: this in our butter. This is trending on TikTok. Then

632
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Speaker 6: we're gonna put a little kosher sauce on top of this.

633
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna give that the final case. Butter, ice cream

635
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Speaker 6: and salt.

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Speaker 2: Wow, not approved by my doctor. So what is that

637
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: soft served vanilla?

638
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: You dip it in butter and then you put kosher

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Speaker 4: salt on top of it.

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Speaker 2: You dip your ice cream in butter? Yes? No, I

641
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Speaker 2: don't what that is?

642
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: Everybody else picturing having their mouth coated with like butter?

643
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Oh? How do I get rid of it? Man?

644
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: This time of year is tough? Oh please, tough everywhere?

645
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: And then plus just the I guess it's like vacation

646
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: where that's spending in calories don't count notifacation. Same with

647
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: the Christmas season. The money and the food goes together somehow.

648
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 4: It's like you're spending money like you don't normally spend it,

649
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: and you eat like you don't normally eat, and it's

650
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Speaker 4: just it's weird.

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Speaker 2: Psychologically, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to wrap my head around it as

653
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Speaker 4: I ate last night, like why do I why am

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Speaker 4: I approaching this completely differently than I'm going to on

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Speaker 4: January fifteenth. That makes no sense. Yeah, I know, I

656
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 4: know it's odd. There's if you are festive, you're eating

657
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Speaker 4: in hume. I was going to say Western culture, but

658
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Speaker 4: virtually every culture.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 4: I had a chicken pot pie at a restaurant last night.

661
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Speaker 4: Best chicken pop pie I've ever had the night. A

662
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: piece of pumpkin pie after the chicken pop pie.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it was a pie theme pie. So much pie.

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Speaker 4: No, there is a Santa at the restaurant walking around

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Speaker 4: taking pictures of people. I mean, honey, but come on,

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Speaker 4: we all feeling a nice butter dipped ice cream?

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Speaker 2: Delicious?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a golf course there's They had out

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Speaker 4: candied pecans now almonds, like cinnamon candied almonds that were

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Speaker 4: spectacularly good. I would never in my life seek those out.

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Speaker 4: One's not gonna hurt buy them one just just a

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Speaker 4: couple's not gonna hurt you in and then yeah we're

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Speaker 4: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Next time you go buy I mean a couple more

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Speaker 2: and grab a handful. Yeah, pomp them in my mouth. Deliciousness.

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Speaker 2: I mean they are almonds, yeah, exactly, They're practically healthy.

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Speaker 4: It's healthy. It's a healthy snack, honey. Ah ilhan Omar

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Speaker 4: making the rounds trying to explain away the rampant theft

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Speaker 4: of zillions of dollars by some of her buddies in

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Speaker 4: the Minneapolis Somali community, and a reporter sticking it to

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Speaker 4: that weakest.

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Speaker 2: Act in America. Tim Wat's all of that coming up

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Speaker 2: next hour.

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Speaker 4: Wow, so you're gonna jump on the anti Somali bias

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Speaker 4: that is sweeping the nation.

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Speaker 2: I see now, stop it.

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Speaker 4: Please, you can't bully me with that crap. I calls

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Speaker 4: them as I see them. Facts are facts, no matter

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Speaker 4: how they make you feel. New York Times had an

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Speaker 4: unbelievably long and detailed story that I read all of

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Speaker 4: yesterday and then highlighted some of we'll get to about

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Speaker 4: the Biden administration and immigration. I just was fascinated by it.

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Speaker 4: All the advisors around Joe Biden were telling him.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is a disaster.

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Speaker 4: Before it even started, we're gonna have millions of people

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Speaker 4: coming into this country. Then during it, they were telling

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Speaker 4: them We've got millions of people coming into the country.

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Speaker 4: And then toward the end of it, they were saying

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Speaker 4: millions of people coming in.

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Speaker 2: Look at the polls on this. People hate this, and

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Speaker 2: they just couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Convince him to do anything, wow, because they were so

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Speaker 4: worried about their left flank, the wokest peek crowd out

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Speaker 4: there about how and in specific Latinos as they called

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Speaker 4: them in the Biden White House, Hispanics who ended up

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Speaker 4: voting for Trump because they hated it, latinixes.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like he wasn't aware.

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Speaker 4: He's being told by his own crowd throughout the entire thing,

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Speaker 4: and he.

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Speaker 2: Just was blind to it.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's seen Isle Yeah, completely senile. Oh that

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Speaker 4: reminds me, don't we have a new Joe Biden clip?

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Speaker 4: He spoke over the weekend. He was given some LGBTQ

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Speaker 4: prize for being the most LGBTQ trans friendly president in

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Speaker 4: our history. At nice job Jack. He said some things

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Speaker 4: and sounded ancient. Among other things, we've got coming up

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Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty