1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Hey, everybody's Bob Ginny here. Welcome to the 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Almost Famous Podcast. My lovely counterpart, Trista Sutter Nae Wren 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: was unavailable today, so I'm jumping on for a little 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: bit of breaking news, some sad stuff actually in Bachelor 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Nation today. We're just came out that Grant and Juliana 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: have broken up. Bummer obviously after three months. But you know, 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: I will say from experience, it can be kind of tough, 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: especially when you're all over the place, which I mean 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: I really didn't follow the two of them so much 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: right after the show had aired, but for whatever reason, 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I recently noticed Grant was like in Shanghai, and then 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: another day he's in you know, here and there, and 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: he is kind of all over the map, and a 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: lot of it was by himself. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: And let's be honest, it's tough in a conventional. 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Normal relationship when the two people never see each other, right, 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: It's difficult when that happens. And I think that that 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: might be what's at play here. So at any rate, 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: statements just came out, I'll read them for you. Grant statement, 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: This is one of the hardest things I've ever had 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: to write, but I want to share it Honestly, Julianne 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: and I have decided to end our relationship. We both 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: gave this our best and poured a lot of love 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: into each other, but after a lot of deep conversations, 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: we've come to the understanding that we're simply not the right. 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Fit long term. What we have is meaningful. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: The connection we built on the show was real, and 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: so is the effort that we've made to continue once 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: the cameras stopped rolling. There's no negativity here and no resentment, 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: just two people who care about each other and want 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: the best for one another. Moving forward, I'll always be 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: grateful for what we shared and for the growth that 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: came with it. Thank you to everyone who supported us 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: and believed in our journey. This chapter is closing, but 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: we're both walking away with love and respect in our hearts. 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: So that was Grant's statement regarding their breakup. 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: So you know, here's the thing. 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Relationships are interesting, obviously, Relationships on the back, Butler are 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: an enigma wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in mystery. I mean, 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, you never know at least one of 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: these things are going to work out? 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Which one aren't. 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people felt like at the 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: end of this show that Grant made the wrong choice 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: for him and his future. I didn't, actually, I thought 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: this was actually an interesting choice. 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: But I thought it could it could have been just 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: the right mix to make it work. But you know, 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: what do I know? Guys? You know, I don't know anything, 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: But I feel like, you. 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Know, what he's saying here is that you know, they've 53 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: they've decided to end their relationship now. It is kind 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: of interesting because it's on the heels of a recent 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: interview where they were talking about moving in together, and 56 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: so it begs a question, did something recently happen that 57 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: sort of triggered this, or was the idea of actually 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: moving in together kind of did that create some cold 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: feet and maybe make people start looking in the mirror 60 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more and wondering where things were going? 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: Who knows, you know, no one ever knows what goes 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: on behind closed doors with any couple, whether they're from 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: a television show or whether they're from a tender, or 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: whether they're from a local bar. Right, it's all the 65 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: same kind of thing. Emotions are evolved, hearts are involved. 66 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I do love that the no negativity and no resentment 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: part is in there because I think that it's a 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: good thing. And time will tell, you know, if that's true, 69 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: which I think is something that we'll find. Probably is 70 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: because these two did seem to have I thought kind 71 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: of a nice relationship. Now. Juliana also put out a statement, 72 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: and it's interesting that it wasn't a joint statement because 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times in these breakups, you know, when 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: they're really seemingly, you know, kind of a mutual thing, 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: they can often be a joint statement, but this one 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: was not. 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: It says, it's a gift to find someone who sees the. 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: World in a way that resonates with you and while 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: also encouraging you to grow. I've been grateful to share 80 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: that experience with Grant. That's very nice. Opening marriage is 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: a commitment. It's one we both still believe in deeply. 82 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: After a lot of honest conversations and reflection, we've come 83 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: to the decision that this chapter of our lives is 84 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: meant to continue on separate paths. 85 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: We shared something. 86 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Meaningful, navigating a unique journey side by side, learning, growing, 87 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: and showing up for each other the best we knew 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: how and while this isn't the ending we once imagined, 89 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: it's one filled with mutual respect, care and hope for 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: what's ahead. 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: We're still cheering each other on, just from different places. Now. 92 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm beyond thankful for all the love and support you 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: all have given us. 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: Please be kind. 95 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: That's a really nice she That was really nice. I 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: like Juliana's statement very much here again. You know, I 97 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: think we're seeing two people who you know, you never 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: know who initiated the breakup, you never know where it started, 99 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: where it ended. Lord knows, I've been through a few myself, 100 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes it really is what it seems 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: that two people just haven't you know, two people just 102 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: realize that they're not right to go on that next 103 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: step in their journey together. Marriage is a big one, man, 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad they made this decision before they before 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: they jumped into something and then, you know, God forbid, 106 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: brought kids into the world and everything else, and then 107 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: realize as they were on the wrong path. So hey, 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, you got to you got to find the 109 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: positive on things. And I think, you know, from a 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: glass half full perspective, which I like to look at 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: life as much as I can. Good for them, right, 112 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, they had 113 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: this magical moment on this really cool show that got 114 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: them to do some really cool stuff. And you know, 115 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: and and I think one of the hardest things about 116 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: the show today, which wasn't around obviously when when I 117 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: was filming either trist the season of The Bachelorette or 118 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: my own season of The Bachelor, was everyone's opinions now resonate, right, 119 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: So you've got social media that literally more people watch 120 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: the show on social media now than watching on actual television, 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: and more people chime in from that perspective as well. 122 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: And everybody's got an opinion, and it's usually jaded. It's 123 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: usually coming from somewhere that you know, has a tinge 124 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: of something that's like, you know, a little dagger. People 125 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: like to take their shots, and that can take a 126 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: toll on a person. And I'm sure on a relationship too, 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: So who knows, who knows what was going on here, 128 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: But I will say I like that both of them 129 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: made statements that were very respectful and kind to one another. 130 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a big, big, big thing and shows 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: their maturity as individuals too. 132 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: So let's dig in a little deeper here. 133 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: You know, in grant statement, he chose a photo to 134 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: post where they're both It's from People Magazines, the photoshoot 135 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: of their engagement. 136 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: You know, they're looking super happy. They're both looking right 137 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: at the camera. 138 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: Juliana's got her hand in the air showing that that 139 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: rock of an engagement. 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: Neil Lane engagement ring that will be returned to producers, 141 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure very soon. 142 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: Juliana, on the other hand, chose a picture where she 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: looks very elegant and the back of Grant's head looks nice. 144 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: So not sure what that means, right, Not sure if 145 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: maybe she just couldn't, you know, stand the idea of 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: putting his face on a picture with her at that moment, 147 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you know. Here's the thing, here's the 148 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: thing I do know about breakups, of which I've been 149 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: through many. 150 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 2: You know, even when you want them, you're still sad. 151 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: Right, So, even when you know it's the right thing 152 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: to do, whether it's a dating relationship breaking up or 153 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: a marital relationship splitting up, or whatever it might be, 154 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: it still sucks. 155 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: There's no two ways around it. 156 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: So I think from that perspective, you know, maybe we're 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: seeing a little bit of that from her as well. 158 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: Right, So. 159 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: Would you would you would anyone else out there think 160 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: that maybe this seems like Grant initiated this, because I 161 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: would think from the pictures that maybe that's what that means. Now. 162 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I am not a photo analysis person for US Weekly 163 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: or People Magazine, but I am a photo taker on 164 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: my cell phone, and I can tell you from my 165 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: expert opinion and my expert analysis, that's what I'm doing. 166 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: That's where I'm coming from. I think, I think that's 167 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: what happened here. But and it is hard. I will 168 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: say this, it is hard to kind of remove yourself. 169 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: I've noticed that over the years of watching this show 170 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: because I was so so long. 171 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: Ago that I've forgotten what it was like for myself. 172 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: But having you know, watched the season year over year, 173 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: it's seems like it's harder for the people who are 174 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: the the leads of the show, who are kind of 175 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: put out there on the promotional schedules to maybe, you know, 176 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: realize that, you know, in order to make this work, 177 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the relationship work, you got to kind of take yourself 178 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: out of that channel, right, I mean it's it's long 179 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: been the why the bachelorettes are more successful than the 180 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: bachelor's right, the bachelorette couple are more successful than the 181 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: bachelor couples. And maybe that's why the Bachelor in Paradise 182 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: couples are successful too, because they're not as in demand. 183 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: I guess maybe from that perspective after their seasons are over. 184 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: But the bachelorette couples tristas a primary example. My co 185 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: ho is Trista. 186 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: You know, she took herself off the whole thing, right, 187 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: and she. 188 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Focused on her and Ryan, and she and Ryan were 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: like focused on each other, and they took that time 190 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: that they needed, I think, to kind of solidify or 191 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: cement that relationship. Becau. Let's be honest, guys. I mean 192 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: these shows are fast, right. You meet thirty people on 193 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: night one. I mean back when we did it on 194 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: the Ogs, four weeks later, you're supposed to be dropping 195 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: to a knee and popping a box, right. I think that, 196 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, from that perspective, now it's a longer season. 197 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: I think now it's like seven or eight weeks that 198 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: they actually filmed because they travel so much more. But 199 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: I feel like now it's got to be or that, 200 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: I feel like it was even more difficult, which is 201 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: why the season takes a little bit longer now. But 202 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: now it's more difficult, I think, because you know, you've 203 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of people out there that are kind 204 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: of working the circuit, you know, popping up their hair 205 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: gummies and the tooth whitening kits, and then at the 206 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: end of the day, they're also you know, trying to 207 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: solidify a relationship. My lovely co host Trista suttern nay 208 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: Ren told us that she is sad by this breaking news. 209 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: And and you know, I am too. I Mean, I 210 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: don't know these people. 211 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know them a all, but I do feel 212 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: a weird kind of connection to them, having been on 213 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: The Bachelor at first and then the Bachelor, and it 214 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: is kind of weird that we all feel like we 215 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: have this strange connection with each other, and we all 216 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: meet and you know, when we ever we do meet up, 217 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: it's almost like we know each other. But I'm sad 218 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: by this too, because I know that no relationship, especially 219 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: one that's public, do you want to feel like you 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: got off the train early, right? I mean, you never 221 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: want to feel like you're that person who went through 222 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff and then at the end failed, and 223 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: that is how it feels. I will say that I'm 224 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: sure that both of them are experiencing a little bit 225 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: of embarrassment, which I know probably isn't a popular thing 226 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: to say, but I know having been divorced. My ex 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: wife was an actress, and when we got divorced and 228 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: it was all over people and magazine at the time 229 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: there were actually magazines and US Weekly and all that 230 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, I was as embarrassed as I was hurt, 231 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: right because I didn't want to fail. 232 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to succeed. 233 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: I wanted everyone to think that we're the ones and 234 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: we got it right, you know, and because that's what 235 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: I thought when we got married, and and you know, so, 236 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I think that there's a part of that that probably 237 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: is you know, is a part of these statements too. 238 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: As they're protecting each other, they're protecting themselves. They realize 239 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: there's going to be backlash. 240 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: They realized that people that were you know, is it real? 241 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Is it fake? You know, now they're gonna be like, 242 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: I told you it was fake, and it's like, no, 243 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't fake. 244 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: We were really feeling each other now for three months 245 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: and three months. I mean, hey man, you know, in 246 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood standards, that's a that's a you know, ten year anniversary. 247 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I don't mean to laugh, but you know, anyway, 248 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: let's let's look at this. 249 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: So not too long previous, Grant had said that he 250 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: and Juliana were taking their engagement day by day. 251 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: Now that I will tell you as a telltale. 252 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: Right. So, one thing I've learned from watching these shows 253 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: over the years and and seeing, you know, a few 254 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: months later as people come through, and if they still 255 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: haven't set a date, or maybe they still haven't you know, 256 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: arrived at something. 257 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: I mean three months, I think that's probably a little premature, 258 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: you know. I think everybody's taking it day by day. 259 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: At that point, they hadn't even moved in together, right, 260 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: So I think I think from that perspective, maybe that's 261 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: not as much of a telltale as as it would 262 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: have been six months down the road. 263 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: Right, six months, nine months, a year, we still don't 264 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: have a date. We're taking it day by day. That's 265 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: huge red flag. 266 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: A couple however, that I think was awesome and kind 267 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: of dispelled this whole thing was Jojo and and her guy, 268 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: the guy she married, Jordan, thank you, a couple that 269 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: I think kind of dispelled that that myth was Jojo 270 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: and Jordan. 271 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: Right, a lot of things came up. 272 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: COVID came up while they were in the midst of 273 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: their planning of their wedding, and so they postponed. 274 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: It and everyone's like, oh, oh, here we go, here's 275 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: another one. 276 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: Right, super long engagement, and now they're happily married and 277 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: seemingly super happy. And you know, guys, that's another thing too. 278 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff with social media, you forget 279 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: we only see the highlights, right, I mean the people 280 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: that are actually throwing the bad stuff up there, well, 281 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: we don't really follow them that long either, right. We 282 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of are like, Man, I'm not going on Instagram 283 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: to get sad today, although I do love a lot 284 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: of those posts about dogs and stuff. 285 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: But dogs and kids always get me. 286 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: But when it comes to like, you know, the people 287 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: that are are part of the show or part of 288 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: the you know, the zeitgeist of what the Bachelor has created, 289 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the highlights. We aren't seeing what's going 290 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: on day to day. So it doesn't mean they're misleading us. 291 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: It just means that they're posting the good days, right, 292 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: and they're not necessarily posting the days. 293 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: That aren't so great. 294 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: So but anyway, Graham had mentioned a few weeks before 295 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: the split that they were taking their relationship day by 296 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: day and that they you know, they have a lot 297 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: of love and support between their family and friends, and 298 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: he was supposed to be moving to Boston and they 299 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: were going to move in. 300 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: With each other. 301 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Boston's a great SETI I love it. But you know 302 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: what they they did not. 303 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: They did not last guys, and that is the news 304 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: of today. Those are the hot time topics of today. 305 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Now there are some others, and we have a couple 306 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: others who where engagements were called off, and let's get 307 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: into them a little bit. I'm gonna go with the 308 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: ones I know first and then I'm gonna go with 309 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: some others. So Katie and Blake Bachelor at Season seventeen, 310 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: it was a he said, she said for sure. Two 311 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: months after the Bachelor and accept the proposal from the 312 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Canadian wildlife manager on air, they posted matching messages to 313 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Instagram announcing they go on. 314 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: Their separate ways, and you know there was something there. 315 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: Obviously they felt enough to get together, but then you know, 316 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: it didn't work out. Taysha Adams and Zach Clark. I've 317 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: met Tasha very lovely the Bachelor of Season sixteen. They 318 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: were together a year, right, so that was pretty good, 319 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: but you know, it kind of ended and all she 320 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: had to say was that she was heartbroken. She move 321 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: moved cross country to join Zach in New York. We 322 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: tried really hard. I still love them very much. I'm 323 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: just not sure what the future holds. And you know, 324 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: that's that's tough. 325 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: He said. 326 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Two good people don't always make a good relationship, and 327 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: that's my experience. So a little, you know, a little 328 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: more of a more concise message, I guess. Okay, Nate 329 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: and Michelle, you know, they were going to other lesson 330 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: a year. She had said, I'm struggling to say that 331 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Nate and I will be going our separate ways. He 332 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: chimed in, and he had said, you know, we were 333 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: looking for our soulmates, our forever, our best friends. However, 334 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: we grow and learn and we realize that sometimes somebody 335 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: that you hold dear to your heart isn't somebody that 336 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: you meant to spend the rest of your life with. 337 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's a pretty eloquent statement. 338 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Actually, months later on The Vile Files, they said they 339 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: come close to breaking up many times before, and it 340 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: was tough and they were having a rough time. 341 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: I get it. 342 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, relationships are hard, guys, That's why not everybody 343 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: does it right. However, breaking news on this breaking news, 344 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Michelle just got married to her husband Jack on June seventh, 345 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: So congrats to her. 346 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: The pictures were just released yesterday. 347 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: Very exciting news that Michelle's happy met her before in 348 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Tahoe I think or it was in northern. 349 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: California, and she was lovely. Susie Evans and Clayton eckered. 350 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Now I have met Clayton. I have not met Susie, 351 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: although I've seen Susie in the news quite a bit. Now, 352 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: he said, she said, here we go, she said, we 353 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: understand that there will likely be a lot of questions. 354 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: About this decisions. 355 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Social media is definitely a highlight, and much of our 356 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: experiences together we have kept private. I'm sure most can understand. Oh, 357 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: that was actually a joint statement, so that's good, but. 358 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: We will share this. 359 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Almost last year together has brought us joy and laughs. 360 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: There's also been a lot of pain, Damn, that's that 361 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: didn't end the way I thought it was. I should 362 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: have read ahead, guys, Sorry about that. Rachel and Tino 363 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: Franco Bachelor at season nineteen a few months you know, 364 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: this was the one where Rachel told hosts Jesse Palmer 365 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: Tino kissed another woman. 366 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: It's just heartbreaking. 367 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: This is the person I thought I was going to 368 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: spend the rest of my life with and start a 369 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: family with. 370 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: That's always rough when it works. 371 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Out that way, you know, that's it's tough. Gabby and 372 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Eric from The Bachelor at season nineteen. She was the 373 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars contestant. She didn't quick step around 374 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: the issue. I love that she said. I just get 375 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: I went through. 376 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: A breakup and it's been tough. 377 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: The end of our relationship happened because we weren't completely 378 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: in step and then sync with each other in our 379 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: common goals of how we approached life. 380 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: Now, you know, I'll say this too. 381 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Obviously, there's a lot more breakups than successes in the 382 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: world of The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, right Hence the 383 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: way that we go about this show, like when the 384 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: ones do work out, we're stoked. I mean, it's exciting. 385 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: We're all super fired up, but you know, the relationships 386 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: actually are probably longer than what we realize. 387 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: And I'll say it for this. 388 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: Back in the day on my season, you know, I 389 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't propose, but a Stella Gardner, who's a lovely person 390 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: and still a friend of mine to this day, I 391 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: gave her a promise ring. 392 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: We started dating. 393 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Our show the finale taped in July, and we broke 394 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: up in December, which. 395 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: Was what that's that's four months, right, four and a 396 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: half months. 397 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: But to the viewing public, they thought it was three 398 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: weeks because our finale happened to air Thanksgiving weekend or 399 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week and then we broke up mid December. So, 400 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of times, you know, 401 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: there might be more to the story than we know, 402 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: and there's definitely more time invested than we know, because 403 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: we don't know when the shows discontinue taping or when 404 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: they wrap taping. So, guys, in summation, it's a sad 405 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: day in battriination, right, we're dealing with a breakup today. 406 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: But we wish them both the very best moving forward. 407 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: They both seem like really nice people. Again, I don't 408 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: know them personally, but somehow I feel like I am 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: connected to them in some way, shape or form. So 410 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: I wish them both the very best. I wish everybody 411 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: the best, everyone that broke up on the on the 412 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: show and moved on that we talked about today. Like 413 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: I said, breakups are never easy, right, so we want 414 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: to wish everyone the best. We especially want to be 415 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: kind in these moments and let them know that, you know, 416 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: the support they've felt this whole time doesn't just go away. 417 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: Now they're no longer betrothed to one another, so production 418 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: team wins again. Though here they get another Neil Lane 419 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: back in that file cabinet. I'm telling you, I'm beginning 420 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: to wonder what they're gonna do with all those at 421 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: the end of this whole thing. At any rate, thank 422 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: you so much for watching Almost Famous and Almost Famous 423 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: to Ogs. We love having you guys, We love the audience, 424 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: and we love all the feedback we get from you guys. 425 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: So make sure you find us in the socials. Let 426 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: us know what you like and what you don't like. 427 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: But this has been breaking news. 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