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Speaker 1: Hey, Cam, how are you this morning? And we're doing good?

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Speaker 1: How are we doing? Like? All right? Always good to

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Speaker 1: talk with you. UM, look to get your insight on

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Speaker 1: the on site kick from this pass game? UM, how

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Speaker 1: much on that play? Cam do you just chuck it

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Speaker 1: up to They were alert and made a good play,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, obviously we thought we had a shot

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Speaker 1: there to make a play. And anytime you get a

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Speaker 1: chance to still a possession for you know, the team,

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Speaker 1: the offense and you're able to generate you know, a

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Speaker 1: positive play, Um, you know, you don't want to be

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Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that. You know, obviously we

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Speaker 1: got that's something we can learn from, prove on. But

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Speaker 1: you know, they were alert, they were able to make

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Speaker 1: the play, so you know, credit to them. It's just

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Speaker 1: something we gotta get better at. And you know, but

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Speaker 1: just trying to make a play at the moment there

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Speaker 1: and one follow up to that, Cam, how could the

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Speaker 1: Patriots on that play be better than they were? You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the day, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that go into that and that and

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Speaker 1: that specific play, UM, and obviously not retain the possession

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Speaker 1: of the ball, that's the ultimate thing. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: we just we just gotta overall go out there and

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Speaker 1: you know, find tune some things and just you know,

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Speaker 1: make a better play there. To be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Next to Doug Kid, and I'll ask anybody else, anybody

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Speaker 1: else with questions for Kim, please raise your hand, go ahead, Doug,

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Speaker 1: you came out. I'm curious if you saw the onsite

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Speaker 1: kick that the Cowboys attempted the other day and if

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Speaker 1: you guys had ever considered doing something similar after the

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Speaker 1: onsite kick rules all were changed a few years back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean anytime which you know you go

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Speaker 1: through and you try to anytime you see someone doing

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Speaker 1: a different onsite kick and anything, you know, it's always

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Speaker 1: good ideas. That's you know, it's a creature. Habits copycats

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Speaker 1: a lot of league. So anytime you know, you study that,

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Speaker 1: definitely take something from other teams as well. On those

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Speaker 1: and just see what it works best for Rust And

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Speaker 1: how much did the wind in Buffalo affect Ryan's punts.

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Speaker 1: I guess you know, you know, as far as you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Jake correct, Yes, I've somehow still got Ryan

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Speaker 1: Allen on the mind side. Worry. You know, he does

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Speaker 1: a good job with the elements um and dealing with

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Speaker 1: it all depends on the drops and how it is

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Speaker 1: and handling it. But we're out there practicing these elements

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Speaker 1: every day, so it's not something we go into a

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Speaker 1: game going crap, we gotta deal with the weather anything

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Speaker 1: like that. You know, we're we're blessed to have elements

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Speaker 1: and you know, make good decisions and you know, punt effectively,

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Speaker 1: kick effectively, you know, in those conditions. Thanks next to

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Speaker 1: Zach Cox, then Eric Rude boarding Kim, what's your assessment

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Speaker 1: of how Gunner has been able to perform in the

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Speaker 1: return game since he came off? I are, you know,

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Speaker 1: Gunner's doing a really good job for us. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, he's done a good job handling the ball

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Speaker 1: back there for us. You know, Um, he's able to

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Speaker 1: you coming up making fair catches, you're not letting the

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Speaker 1: That way, when the game comes up and presents itself,

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Speaker 1: how Joe's team has been doing, how he's been doing,

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Speaker 1: back to now then the endgame adjustments and planning. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was able to learn a lot from Joe, respect him. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: They're the fullest, you know, wishing well and we just

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Speaker 1: I just continue to carry on for sure. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you very much, Cam, thank you,