WEBVTT - The Future of Decentralization: A Dialogue with Nolan Bauerle

0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to another episode of The Mark

0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Moss Show, where we talk about, of course, the decentralized revolution,

0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about the way the world is breaking up from

0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.319
<v Speaker 1>a unipol or centralized world to a decentralized world as

0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.959
<v Speaker 1>we look at it through the lens of politics, finance,

0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and technology. Of course, that technology that's always changing the world,

0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and today we are witnessing the decentralized technology of Bitcoin

0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.799
<v Speaker 1>changing things, touching everything in the world. I like to

0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.040
<v Speaker 1>bring to you some las breaking news, some education, and

0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:26.680
<v Speaker 1>some new guests so you don't have to listen to

0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:28.080
<v Speaker 1>me all the time. And that's what I have for

0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you today. I'm joined by Nolan Bowerley. He is the

0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.560
<v Speaker 1>host of The Breakup Daily Show on YouTube and Rumble

0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>every day at eight am Eastern. Nolan, thanks so much

0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:38.480
<v Speaker 1>for joining me today.

0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Mark. It's great. You know I first found you because

0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I produced coin Esk's twenty eighteen Consensus show. I was

0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>an early coind esker and part of all that. Yeah,

0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and you did a great video when you were I

0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.880
<v Speaker 2>think just start. It was been twenty eighteen, so you'd

0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.560
<v Speaker 2>have been early to YouTube and he did a great video.

0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Just getting back to California. I was getting all the

0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.280
<v Speaker 2>review use in of the show, and a lot of

0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.760
<v Speaker 2>people criticized it. It was big, a lot of energy,

0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.800
<v Speaker 2>but you loved it. I've had a soft spot for

0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:06.839
<v Speaker 2>your connent ever since.

0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Nolan. Yeah, that was interesting. I didn't start this

0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.760
<v Speaker 1>my existing YouTube channel until the end of twenty eighteen,

0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>but at the time I had a business partner. I

0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.720
<v Speaker 1>think we did the video together and we had like

0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a business YouTube channel that we did it on. And yeah,

0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that was at the very very beginning. We went there

0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and did some interviews and did like kind of a

0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.480
<v Speaker 1>wrap up and yeah, that was interesting. That's takes me

0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.240
<v Speaker 1>way back how far we've both come since then. That's

0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. Sure, tell me about the breakup for a second, Like,

0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what does that even mean the breakup? What are the

0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:40.520
<v Speaker 1>topics that you're talking about.

0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Really, we're in a relationship with money, right, it's it's

0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.360
<v Speaker 2>and when we're dealing with bitcoin, we are and it's

0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.800
<v Speaker 2>all about bitcoin, right Bit. Bitcoin is separate in all

0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:55.280
<v Speaker 2>of these assets and all of these players because while

0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.120
<v Speaker 2>they're all psychological commodities, right, the US dollar is a

0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.480
<v Speaker 2>psychological commodity. Bitcoin is a psychological commodity. What I sort

0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of try to do on my show is to contrast

0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the mindset that comes from dollars with the mindset that

0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.800
<v Speaker 2>comes from bitcoin and really talk about the sort of

0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:15.000
<v Speaker 2>relationships that it cultivates, the commercial relationships and in some

0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.120
<v Speaker 2>ways the inertia that the dollar has created. I use

0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of union analysis. Let's say, right, you know,

0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.600
<v Speaker 2>when you have the process of individuation, you have to

0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.919
<v Speaker 2>have encounter, right, you have to encounter your shadow. You

0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.600
<v Speaker 2>got to encounter your negative sides. And in some ways

0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.160
<v Speaker 2>we don't have that capacity anymore because we can't count

0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the money. There's literally no way to count dollars. So

0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.079
<v Speaker 2>you have this incredible mutant that's formed inside of America,

0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.160
<v Speaker 2>this sort of opposite, a binary of what we think

0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.920
<v Speaker 2>of America, the opposite of what it is and what

0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.920
<v Speaker 2>we want it to be. And in some ways I

0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.399
<v Speaker 2>argue that bitcoin is here to push that shadow into

0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.600
<v Speaker 2>the forefront so that America can individuate its problems and

0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.520
<v Speaker 2>redefine what a country is in the modern world. So

0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.919
<v Speaker 2>the whole show is really just about the perpetuation. I

0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.200
<v Speaker 2>think of the economy as a psychological engine. How does

0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.120
<v Speaker 2>an engine move forward? Right, it's got to have commercial relationships,

0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.760
<v Speaker 2>it's got to have enthusiasm, it's got to have what

0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.320
<v Speaker 2>you see in the bitcoin community, right. So bitcoiners have

0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.680
<v Speaker 2>stayed in the game to such an extent that you

0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>can think of them as sort of playable characters in

0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.720
<v Speaker 2>this video game. That is the economy, that is, you know,

0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the current history that we're living through, the simulations some

0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.680
<v Speaker 2>people say, with all these aliens and all this other stuff,

0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and you know, from that, you can just sort of

0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.760
<v Speaker 2>imagine that bitcoiners are in the game just like yourself

0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.560
<v Speaker 2>around in twenty eighteen. Bitcoiners are not falling to the

0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.520
<v Speaker 2>wayside because they had all these crazy ideas like everyone

0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.520
<v Speaker 2>who's still sort of corrupted by the Fiat self, the

0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Fiat world, the dead end street, that that commercial system offers,

0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that that psychological engine offer. So the whole point of

0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the show is to just take new stories of the

0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.360
<v Speaker 2>day and describe why you'd want to trade dollars. It's

0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.440
<v Speaker 2>not about buying bitcoin, it's about why you'd want to

0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.240
<v Speaker 2>dump dollars the system behind it.

0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's interesting. As you're talking, I'm thinking,

0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the chicken or the egg type of thing,

0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.560
<v Speaker 1>where which one changes which right, And of course we

0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.880
<v Speaker 1>know when bitcoin was created, sokomotive put a message into

0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the blockchain, you know, the chancels don't the break up

0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a second bailout, so sort of telling us that it

0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>was created to solve a problem. So technology, typically solutions

0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.880
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to come and solve problems. I say typically

0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.640
<v Speaker 1>because today we're in a day and age where we

0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.280
<v Speaker 1>have all this money trying to solve problems I don't

0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.960
<v Speaker 1>need to be solved. We saw that in the late

0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.920
<v Speaker 1>nineties with the dot com bubble. We saw it obviously

0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.840
<v Speaker 1>with the crypto bubble. Were sitting with the AI bubble

0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to what can I do, What can

0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I go do with this technology? But like, we don't

0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.279
<v Speaker 1>really need that stuff, but we're supposed to solve problems,

0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and so on one hand, it was created as a

0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.920
<v Speaker 1>solution to this existing problem of centralized money and manipulation.

0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But then kind of to the point that you're saying,

0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but then it starts changing things, and so it's sort

0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of the chicken or the egg

0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of a syndrome there. Before we started recording, we

0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.400
<v Speaker 1>were talking and you were telling me how at the

0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.240
<v Speaker 1>last Bitcoin conference. You guys are really good photos of

0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.640
<v Speaker 1>me with Vivik Ramaswami, and we were kind of just

0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:06.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about that, which, by the way, thank you for

0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.280
<v Speaker 1>getting those. I'm excited to get those. But you were

0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about how, you know, he sets them outlandish things

0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and how RFK is maybe having this like Trump moment,

0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and I hadn't really thought about jumping into that conversation specifically,

0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.120
<v Speaker 1>but I like to talk about the convergence of politics, finance,

0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and technology, because I think you have to look at

0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.360
<v Speaker 1>all three of those to really get context of what's

0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.279
<v Speaker 1>going on. So let's jump into the politics for a second.

0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to get more about what you're saying about

0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.640
<v Speaker 1>RFK and sort of this Trump moment. I hosted a

0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Twitter spaces with RFK yesterday that was pretty cool. But

0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.280
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Vivic for a second. And I had

0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.960
<v Speaker 1>said that the one comment I didn't like from him

0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.120
<v Speaker 1>is this like we're gonna go blow up the cartels,

0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I'm just like, WHOA, Like you can't

0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.640
<v Speaker 1>do that, Like we can't just be warmongering all over

0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the world. I think that's a big problem. Kennedy certainly

0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.920
<v Speaker 1>against that. And then you said well, maybe we should.

0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Like Mexico is not really a country, they're more like

0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.640
<v Speaker 1>controlled by cartels like that for me.

0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So when I say maybe maybe we should, I'm

0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.920
<v Speaker 2>not saying what I think I want to happen. Sorry,

0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying what I want to happen. I'm saying

0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.120
<v Speaker 2>what I think will happen. So there's a difference, right,

0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.159
<v Speaker 2>predicting a thing that's going to happen. It is not

0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.359
<v Speaker 2>exactly the same as advocate.

0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Certainly, there's a lot of things to happen that I

0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:19.960
<v Speaker 1>certainly don't want to happen. I'm trying to stop them.

0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I don't want to see anyone in Mexico

0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.680
<v Speaker 2>dying or anything like that. That that's for sure. But

0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.080
<v Speaker 2>when you start thinking about the supply chain, for example,

0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.560
<v Speaker 2>in the fentanyl crisis, and you start to think of

0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.919
<v Speaker 2>the playable characters that are involved in this game, you

0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.039
<v Speaker 2>know it goes back to China with some of the

0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:43.159
<v Speaker 2>primary products involved in these in the fentanyl distribution. We

0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.720
<v Speaker 2>know the names of these people. I mean, we know them, right,

0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.240
<v Speaker 2>So we tried many times America tried in trade deals

0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.039
<v Speaker 2>bilatteral trade deals with China and said you deal with

0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.000
<v Speaker 2>this fentanyl problem. If China was ever serious about dealing

0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.000
<v Speaker 2>with the fentanyl problem, those people, I think they know

0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.240
<v Speaker 2>how to find people and arrest them. I've heard any

0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.600
<v Speaker 2>way that China as a pretty efficient system at rooting

0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.680
<v Speaker 2>out people that doesn't want around. Well, that's never happened.

0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.440
<v Speaker 2>These people are still roaming free in China. And we

0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.880
<v Speaker 2>know the supply chains, right, we know how they get

0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the stuff to America. So when Vivec is talking about

0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.040
<v Speaker 2>destroying these cartels, remember no one is talking about attacking

0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Mexican people Mexican towns, but the cartels are separate, right.

0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine you'd get some kind of a flyover

0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.000
<v Speaker 2>brochure and say saying that anyone who's here in the

0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.640
<v Speaker 2>next little while get out because there's a drone swarm coming,

0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:36.040
<v Speaker 2>or there's some form of military operation coming. So it's

0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.480
<v Speaker 2>more just predicting that eventually if you can't. If you

0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.200
<v Speaker 2>look at what's in the news today, it seems like

0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:47.520
<v Speaker 2>most of America's entanglements somehow involve the Biden family, the

0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Democrat family, the Democrat system, the uniparty as well. Let's

0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.600
<v Speaker 2>not let Republicans off the hook here, certainly involved in

0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of this stuff, But the whole issue becomes, right,

0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.160
<v Speaker 2>what will happen to this military apparatus when it's not

0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:08.720
<v Speaker 2>covering up whatever is going on in Ukraine and Russia?

0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Who can tell, right, but one would imagine they can

0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.960
<v Speaker 2>be recalibrated maybe for this mission over there to stop

0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the drugs from coming into America. Now, it's not something

0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to see happen, but when Vivek is talking

0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.120
<v Speaker 2>about it, he's doing the Trump campaign trick of saying

0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the thing that will keep him in the news. Right.

0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Just look at the spending the campaign has done. They've

0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.960
<v Speaker 2>spent very little money, yet he has been able to

0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.439
<v Speaker 2>surf on top of a wave of attention the same

0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.560
<v Speaker 2>way Trump did. Remember Trump's original twenty fifteen campaign tactic

0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.640
<v Speaker 2>was to keep the little red light going right, to

0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.360
<v Speaker 2>keep all the live cameras that were covering him on,

0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and vivec seems to be copying that exactly Now. I

0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.720
<v Speaker 2>feel like the energy in the early Trump campaign is

0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.400
<v Speaker 2>more captured by the RFK campaign, but the tactics are

0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.120
<v Speaker 2>slightly different.

0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nolan, I got to cut you off right there.

0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.640
<v Speaker 1>We got to take a quick break and listen to

0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.600
<v Speaker 1>our sponsors. For a minute and we'll be back in

0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:06.679
<v Speaker 1>a minute. Don't go away, all right, welcome back. If

0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you're just tune in you're listening to the Mark Moss Show.

0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we're always talking about the decentralized revolution. I'm

0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.319
<v Speaker 1>in the studio with Nolan Bowerley. We're talking about he's

0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the host of The Breakup Daily Show on YouTube and

0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Rumble eight am Eastern every single day. Nolan. Before the

0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.640
<v Speaker 1>break we were talking about sort of what you were

0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of eyeing up with Vivic and some of his

0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.760
<v Speaker 1>comments about the drug cartels, and I just kind of

0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to jump back into that for a second because

0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned you dissected sort of this ventanyl crisis pretty well.

0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's scary. I mean, I got kids, and it's the

0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.560
<v Speaker 1>number one cause of death of eighteen to thirty four

0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.160
<v Speaker 1>year olds. My daughter's in high school and she knows

0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.560
<v Speaker 1>two people who have died. I mean, it's like, really

0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:43.160
<v Speaker 1>really scary.

0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.199
<v Speaker 2>And it's for people who aren't doing the typical It's

0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.440
<v Speaker 2>not always recreational drugs. It's for people ordering like an

0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:54.280
<v Speaker 2>adderall on TikTok or something or on Instagram, and for studying.

0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You're hearing some pretty unbelievable cases.

0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know you framed it up pretty well,

0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.760
<v Speaker 1>so I know you've you spent a little bit of

0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.760
<v Speaker 1>time looking into this. And and to your point, you said,

0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we know who the people are in China,

0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.199
<v Speaker 1>we know who their names are, right, And one of

0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the big problems is that it's not illegal in China,

0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and so China won't do anything about it. And it

0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of reminds me. It almost makes me think of

0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.520
<v Speaker 1>revenge for the opioid uh, you know, wars that the

0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:21.800
<v Speaker 1>US inflicted on China.

0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.880
<v Speaker 2>We got oh hold on, no, no, no, America was

0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:25.760
<v Speaker 2>not even around.

0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:31.439
<v Speaker 1>This was British, okay, okay. So so it was in

0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the late it was in America.

0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Teen America, but America wasn't. America was about to go

0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.240
<v Speaker 2>through its own Civil War one when it started. They

0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.120
<v Speaker 2>were just preoccupied. It was eighteen fifties. America had its

0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.560
<v Speaker 2>own West Coast to deal with, and it was not

0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.440
<v Speaker 2>It just wasn't over in Hong Kong. And Hong Kong

0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:53.240
<v Speaker 2>was like a Scottish town really, and and so that

0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.160
<v Speaker 2>that opis ortunately about Hong.

0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Kong controlled by Great Britain. So anyway, it seems sort

0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.400
<v Speaker 1>of sort of like a like maybe a revenge for

0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of like a Opium wars where now they want

0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to get the US weekend for you know, and you

0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can look at a bunch of data points, you know,

0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe TikTok is like that, and obviously maybe they want

0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.679
<v Speaker 1>this to happen. So if you look at it from

0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that lens, it just seems like the US has should

0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:18.440
<v Speaker 1>have many tools at their disposal before bombing things, right,

0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.480
<v Speaker 1>many many diplomatic as well as financial sanctions and tools

0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, And so it just makes me think,

0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like do they want to stop it? Like, so it

0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.920
<v Speaker 1>seems like going straight to bombing is like, hey, we

0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.160
<v Speaker 1>need to stop this now, but there's like nothing being

0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.440
<v Speaker 1>done leading that would almost seem like a like a

0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.200
<v Speaker 1>last last minute approach, right, and so like shouldn't we

0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:39.559
<v Speaker 1>be doing things in advance of that?

0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I would say, if you're if you're getting briefed by

0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.160
<v Speaker 2>military strategists looking at what's going on in Ukraine, looking

0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.920
<v Speaker 2>what's going on in that theater of war, for example,

0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.360
<v Speaker 2>we've learned a lot about what is obsolete and what

0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.040
<v Speaker 2>is relevant now in war. Right. I believe in this

0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.839
<v Speaker 2>World War three that we're in already we're going to

0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.440
<v Speaker 2>one of those beautiful aircraft carriers, a major feature of

0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the US dollars simply melt into the sea, and the

0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.520
<v Speaker 2>billion dollar F thirty five's are just going to fall

0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.200
<v Speaker 2>off and they'll be gone forever because of this asymmetry

0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.679
<v Speaker 2>of violence that we're starting to see with drone technology,

0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.840
<v Speaker 2>with the capacity of tanks to fight against drones, and

0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the idea now that you can have an army raised

0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.360
<v Speaker 2>for five million bucks or something like that, right, it's

0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.320
<v Speaker 2>not going to be that complicated to create a bunch

0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of drones, I think. Anyway, there is this idea that

0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.800
<v Speaker 2>if you don't stop it now, this is more or

0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.840
<v Speaker 2>less your last chance to get these guys on the ropes. Now,

0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.760
<v Speaker 2>there could be spiritual awakenings, there could be other things

0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.079
<v Speaker 2>that could fix this in the world. But if you're

0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.640
<v Speaker 2>in Vivek's seat right now and you're saying, okay, the

0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.680
<v Speaker 2>ability to even mobilize state power in order to do

0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.520
<v Speaker 2>this stuff is quickly vanishing. We might have five years

0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.400
<v Speaker 2>left enable to in order to even do this in

0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the first place. So, once again, I'm not saying this

0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.720
<v Speaker 2>is something that I'm actuate. I do believe on a

0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.079
<v Speaker 2>big pin standard. We're going to get to a point

0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.960
<v Speaker 2>where we value every life more than we ever have

0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.200
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. But for now, anyway, I can

0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.880
<v Speaker 2>see why he's saying that, because at a certain point

0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.360
<v Speaker 2>for America to let this kind of body count continue

0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.120
<v Speaker 2>to mount without flexing the last days of usefulness of

0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.120
<v Speaker 2>the military, and to have it engaged in such a

0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.880
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous theater of conflict over in Ukraine. But what are

0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.959
<v Speaker 2>we even using it for? Yeah, right, they.

0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Built that apparently is great, and it's looking sort of

0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.920
<v Speaker 1>obsolete and incompetent at some point as well. I had

0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.120
<v Speaker 1>an amazing conversation with doctor Robert Malone and we talked

0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.240
<v Speaker 1>about what he's been talking about is fifth generation of warfare.

0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.640
<v Speaker 1>And he talks about these like five stages, sure, and

0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the third stage was the American industrial military, the aircraft carriers,

0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the tanks, but the bombers. Right. The fourth generation of

0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.480
<v Speaker 1>warfare he frames up as like starting in Vietnam like

0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.440
<v Speaker 1>guerrilla warfare, and into like terrorism like independent cells, and

0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.559
<v Speaker 1>then the fifth generation being really kind of where we're

0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at today, which is sort of like this information psychological

0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.600
<v Speaker 1>warfare that's coming from somewhere. But you don't know where

0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it's coming from or what it's doing, but he says that,

0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, the US has never won a war since

0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the fourth generation of warfare started. So you know, you

0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>have terrorism, for example, but you have all these independent

0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.160
<v Speaker 1>cells with no head to cut off. There's no army

0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to go fight, and there's no leader. They're only aligned

0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:28.240
<v Speaker 1>on ideology. So it's very interesting. So yeah, it's it's

0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.320
<v Speaker 1>it's greatly changing. And to the point, we have a

0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.120
<v Speaker 1>billion dollar aircraft carrier that could be sunk by a

0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.040
<v Speaker 1>two million dollar missile or whatever, right, yeah, like.

0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.880
<v Speaker 2>A little like a little RC radio controlled boat could

0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.360
<v Speaker 2>probably take one of these down at this point, right.

0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're even.

0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Talking about injecting AI into them now so that when

0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.080
<v Speaker 2>they are blown off course from one of these jammers,

0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.280
<v Speaker 2>one of these radio jammers. Right. That was that was

0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the big thing that was going to save the aircraft

0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.680
<v Speaker 2>carriers from the drone swarms with oh we can jam

0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the radio, they're not going to work. Well, they plugged

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.080
<v Speaker 2>AI into each of them now, so the AI will

0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:06.640
<v Speaker 2>actually just override any jamming and will remember their mission. Basically,

0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.560
<v Speaker 2>yeahis is crazy.

0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.640
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's take it. I mean this isn't really

0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.440
<v Speaker 1>where I had planned on taking it maybe a little bit.

0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.160
<v Speaker 1>But if we take this maybe just to a little

0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.600
<v Speaker 1>bit of a conversation, like we're really witnessing, as I

0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.440
<v Speaker 1>call it, a technological revolution, about every fifty years and

0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.560
<v Speaker 1>new technology comes and it changes the course of humanity.

0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And so we're seeing that in a number of ways

0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in warfare that we're talking about, right, And we're kind

0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.320
<v Speaker 1>of witnessing like the death of one system and maybe

0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the birth of another one. And so there's this growing

0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.040
<v Speaker 1>pains or this creative destruction process that we have there.

0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And you have really like on one hand, you have

0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the incumbent powers trying to maintain and hold on to

0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.840
<v Speaker 1>what they have, and then you have like a new

0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.800
<v Speaker 1>system that's like coming up behind it. And so you have,

0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned earlier, kind of like the Biden family

0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the Democratic Party, and I mean both

0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.880
<v Speaker 1>parties are almost as bad. And really we're seeing it's

0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 1>like we the people versus the governments right where it's

0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like but really it's symbolic, I think with Biden. I

0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.600
<v Speaker 1>think even President Biden himself is symbolic of the US

0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:13.040
<v Speaker 1>being old and decrepit and out of touch and so forth,

0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you have you know, a lot of the

0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.320
<v Speaker 1>high ranking people in politics are over eighty eighty. Diane

0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Feinstein's ninetyesh I didn't even know her name anymore. And

0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.320
<v Speaker 1>now they're like trying to control and pass rules and

0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.720
<v Speaker 1>laws against this brand new, cutting edge technology that's like

0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.480
<v Speaker 1>facing to change the world. And then we still have

0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.840
<v Speaker 1>old presidents running. I mean even Kennedy, I mean, he's

0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.880
<v Speaker 1>no spring Chicken. Vivic is a lot younger and understands

0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot more. So it brings me a little bit

0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.360
<v Speaker 1>more hope. But do you see that same power struggle

0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:48.680
<v Speaker 1>being set up? Yeah? So and actually and actually I

0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just threw you a big question that you're gonna have

0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a big answer for. But I gotta take a quick break.

0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.080
<v Speaker 1>So before I wind you up and let you go

0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on that, I'm gonna take a quick break. If you

0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just tune in, you are listening to the Mark mass

0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Show sitting down with Nolan Bowery. He is the host

0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of The Breakup Daily Show on YouTube and on Rumble.

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.400
<v Speaker 1>You can check them out every single day eight a m. Eastern,

0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>which I highly recommend a little morning dose to kind

0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.640
<v Speaker 1>of get your mind right about the Breakup and sort

0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of how the world is changing as it's divorcing or

0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.639
<v Speaker 1>as it's breaking up from the dollar. So anyway, we're

0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna comea I'm gonnake a very quick bak. We're gonna

0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.000
<v Speaker 1>come back. We're going to talk about this sort of

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.440
<v Speaker 1>power struggle that we have, and then I want to

0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.320
<v Speaker 1>get into some of the collateral damage, so maybe some

0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of the whistleblowers that we've been seeing, the sweetheart deal

0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that Hunter Biden and SBF just got, while the law

0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.320
<v Speaker 1>is certainly being applied in two tiers, and some other

0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:42.720
<v Speaker 1>fun stuff that we'll talk about in a second. But

0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonnake a very quick break you don't want to

0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.600
<v Speaker 1>miss it. We'll be right back, all right, Welcome back.

0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.080
<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune in, you were listening to the

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Mark mass Show in studio here with Nolan Bowery, the

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.679
<v Speaker 1>host of The Breakup every single day on YouTube eight

0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a m Eastern. Check it out. But Nolan, before the

0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.360
<v Speaker 1>break I served you up this big did you see softball?

0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.479
<v Speaker 1>And basically for the people that are just tuned in,

0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.119
<v Speaker 1>talking about like this changing of the guard and this

0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.160
<v Speaker 1>power struggle where we have this incumbent, you know, political

0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 1>class eighty year olds, and not just in the US

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the developed world, I mean the Western world. Europe is

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.879
<v Speaker 1>the same way. But at the same time, there's this

0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.960
<v Speaker 1>massive disruption and they're like utilizing almost every tool in

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>their arsenal, including now the Justice Department, to seemingly hold

0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.639
<v Speaker 1>onto that power. And I was just curious, are you

0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.560
<v Speaker 1>seeing that same power struggle setting up?

0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 2>And what are your thoughts on that. That's exactly the

0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.800
<v Speaker 2>frame that I use for the breakup every morning. The

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 2>genesis of the idea actually comes from a conversation I

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.520
<v Speaker 2>had in twenty sixteen in China, and I was there

0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:46.760
<v Speaker 2>doing bitcoin stuff and talking with some Chinese people, and

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, they were talking about just slinging coins for

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting out of the wand to get into

0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.159
<v Speaker 2>to get into bitcoin because their government was used to

0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:00.560
<v Speaker 2>manipulating their currency. And I realized suddenly that American patriotism

0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:05.160
<v Speaker 2>around the dollar looked so silly in retrospect, right, how

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.719
<v Speaker 2>can it be that a country would take such patriotic

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.159
<v Speaker 2>pride and something that's being used to manipulate them. The

0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Chinese folks I talked to had all kinds of pride

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.080
<v Speaker 2>about their country and their history, and it wasn't caught

0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 2>up in a dollar. They were used to it being

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.919
<v Speaker 2>manipulated overnight. And suddenly I realized that Americans had this

0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 2>blind spot in the same way that a fellow you

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.560
<v Speaker 2>might know, or a lady friend you might have, might

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.879
<v Speaker 2>be in an unhealthy, toxic relationship, and they might not

0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.879
<v Speaker 2>understand it. They might have struggles to get out of

0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 2>that toxic relationship. It's not easy, you have codependencies and

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 2>all that. So my show really is just about talking

0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.560
<v Speaker 2>about getting rid of that breakup. And it is exactly

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.320
<v Speaker 2>as you said along those lines of five GU warfare,

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 2>five G Warfare. Michael Flynn was one of the He

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.399
<v Speaker 2>wrote a book called five G Warfare. The way I

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about it is it's a psychological and economic war.

0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Now I've just expressed that economics are just a psychologe engine.

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of repeating itself. But that's their frame,

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and that's how I think about it. And indeed, we've

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 2>only organized ourselves in terms of nations and countries for

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 2>a very brief part of our history. Here this is

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.119
<v Speaker 2>a new thing, right, Some countries did it for longer.

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 2>France has a little deeper root into nationalism because the

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.359
<v Speaker 2>geography is so precious, and you would understand why someone

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.919
<v Speaker 2>wanted to protect it as well. It's naturally easy to

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>protect with mountains and seas, and so something like a

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 2>nationhood was able to arise in France, similar to England

0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.560
<v Speaker 2>right as an island. And even then they couldn't create

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.560
<v Speaker 2>a uniform, homogeneous nationality within the island. You had Scottish

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.280
<v Speaker 2>people and Welsh people and all these people who fought

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 2>over what kind of nationality England really was. And then

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 2>you take a place look at a place like Germany,

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 2>which was never a country ever, It was just a language, right,

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.080
<v Speaker 2>And you look deep into history and you find out

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that in the Roman time it was not a nation

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the way we would think of a nation. They had

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 2>certain pride, but they had different languages and all kinds

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 2>of different things. So the point is being a country

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and organizing yourself around nationhood is a anomaly in history.

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.479
<v Speaker 2>And while it worked for a little while, there's entropy

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and now technology entering the system, and indeed World War

0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 2>three I characterize on my show all the time as

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 2>absolutely not a hot war between nations themselves. Your reference

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 2>of anyone's reference and frame of thinking about world War Three.

0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.639
<v Speaker 2>The way we thought about World War two is going

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to lead you astray in many ways. World War three

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 2>is a play on what happened in World War One,

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 2>which was all about how you finance war. World War

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 2>One had everything to do with debt base nations. The

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.880
<v Speaker 2>US dollar came alive in time for World War One,

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and it was against gold back nations. So Bismarck's Germany

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and the Austro Hungarian Empire they sued for peace many

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 2>times and couldn't afford the war. They were getting catastrophically

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 2>wiped out financially, Whereas America, because it was now on

0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 2>this brand new form of money and created by the

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 2>banking cartel and the Federal Reserve, was able to finance

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>a war that was basically impossible to lose at that point.

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 2>However long it went on was fine, and no one

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 2>really cared. The British were making money off of the

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 2>wealthy British folks anyway, We're making money off of gold

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>conversion or something like that between arbitraging with the US.

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Long story short, it looks like as we get here

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>to World War three, we have this sort of entropy

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.639
<v Speaker 2>in the system and we talked earlier just about you

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.360
<v Speaker 2>know Stoshi talking about the Genesis block, for example, Chancellor

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 2>on the brink, he did many other things, many other

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>signals which would lead us to believe that that's what

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 2>we have in store. Of course, the October thirty first

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 2>White Paper, right, that's the same day that Martin Luther

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 2>did something very similar in that it wasn't in five

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 2>hundred years ago when this was put up, right, and

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 2>however long ago that was. It had nothing to do

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 2>at the time with nations. They were not a thing.

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 2>It was the church. And he decided that we would

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 2>separate the church in the state and that a king

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 2>would not be beholden to the church construct. Right, So

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 2>its a reorganization. Now. Of course Satotia did the same thing.

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 2>But there's other things. America for example, right.

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 1>We also had October third verst But it was also

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:15.160
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five, which was the year that we allowed

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Americans to own gold again.

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so there's another And I'll even tell you

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll go back to the presidencies, because what I see

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.639
<v Speaker 2>here is when we talk about you know, fourth turnings

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 2>or technological changes or frames that you can use to

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>understand where we're coming from right, because I use predictions

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 2>on my show a lot, because if you can make

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>a prediction and it comes true, it's more likely that

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>your worldview that you held when you made the prediction

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>was accurate, because it's predictable. Right. If the model predicts,

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.919
<v Speaker 2>it's useful. As in science, as in anything else, right,

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.719
<v Speaker 2>predictive models are useful. And so when I think of

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what happened really the story of bitcoin, and I was

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about this that same conversation we were having with Vivic.

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 2>When I spoke with RFK at the Bitcoin event in

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Miami back in May. What we talked about was nineteen

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 2>sixty four, the year after his uncle died, because that's

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the year where the Bank Secrecy Act comes into play.

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the time when they deputize the banks to look

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 2>into why there's some protests about Vietnam, what's going on there?

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, we just want to know who's making a fuss.

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And very quickly it was well, who's asking questions about JFK,

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 2>who's asking this and that? And so I predicted already

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 2>in November had nothing to do with knowing about RFK

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and bitcoin. But I started reaching out to RFK last November,

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 2>simply because the story of bitcoin and whatever it is

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>we're going through actually goes back to when his uncle

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>was killed, and I said, well, we're going to want

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 2>to know the answer to these things, and we're not

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to deal with what happened and

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>understand what happened to America unless we understand nineteen sixty four.

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>That's when banks are deputies to involve themselves. That's when

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you have the corrupt merger of corporate and state power

0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 2>really start affecting American systems to the point where we

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 2>are now in a type of world war against what

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>that created. And indeed, the framework to understand World War

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 2>III is nations against people. It's exactly what was predicted

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>in the sovereign individual. It's exactly what I was already

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 2>made a terrorist. I'm a Canadian, right of course, those

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>truckers made most of us terrorists. So I've already many

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 2>times apologized to any debate I had with any Muslim

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 2>person from the Patriot Act, on which I was never

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in favor of, but I at least said to them, well,

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 2>we'll know the difference between a terrorist and you know,

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 2>as someone who created a crime. Well, in fact, I

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 2>was the first person to be confused with Osama bin Laden,

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'll never forget that. And right away

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you can understand this is not the way to organize

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 2>people in nations.

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>And that was the point that RFK brought up on

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the spaces I have hosted with him yesterday, and he

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>said that that was actually the point that really woke

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>him up the Trucker protest, like when he became orange pilled.

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>That was the first question that was lobbed to him,

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and he said, when that happened, that's when I woke

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>up sometime else. I didn't know obviously, I know, you

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>know JFK said that, you know, he was pasted the

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>presidency from Eisenhower, who warned him about the industrial military

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>industrial complex and then he gave the famous speech where

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>he he's going to splinter them into a thousand pieces,

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and so he kind of came after the intelligence community

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and the banking cartel. And so I've already I've always

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of eyed that up as probably what led to

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>this assassination. But what I didn't know until RFK was

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.679
<v Speaker 1>talking about it, but actually JFK was taking steps to

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>introduce a new currency that was backed by silver and gold,

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of broke it down. I don't remember

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the exact details. You probably know more about.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Buy medalism, Yeah, bi metalism.

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Bi metallism. And you know, interesting enough, there was another

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>president who was assassinated for trying to take on the

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>federal reserve and that was Lincoln, right. So Lincoln created

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>something called greenbacks, which we think of just a slang

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>term for dollars. But during the Civil War, he's like,

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>why are we borrowing money from this banking cartel when

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the government could just create its own. So he did

0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and he created the green backs, and then of course

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he was assassinated as as well. But you know, all

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of this goes back to, you know, kind of as

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned this bi metallism, gold being around for thousands

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and thousands of years. You know, I love bitcoin because

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a more technological, advanced creation today, but you know,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>gold has been a way to protect your wealth for

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>thousands of years, which is why central banks are still

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>buying more gold than any time in history. And the

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>problem with gold is it's not easy to verify, so

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure you're getting it from a

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>trusted source. And that's why I work with a company

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>called Universal Coin and boy On, I trust him because

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I've worked directly with the president, Mike Fulgens. He was

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>he wrote the consumer alert on gold coins for the

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Texas Attorney General and they have great prices and he's

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>got a very special offer for my listeners. You can

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>get a one ounce gold American egle coin, which is

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the most popular gold boy On coin in the world,

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>as dealer cost, and he's even gonna ship it to

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you for free. With his thirty page National award winning

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>gold Guide, He's gonna give all for free. If you

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>mentioned my name, Mark Moss, give him a call one

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred U see B Gold again. One eight hundred

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you see B Gold. Or you can go online to

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>universalcoin dot com slash Moss again, universalcoin dot com slash Moss.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune in, you're listening to the Mark

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Moss Show. I'm sitting down with Nolan Byerley, the host

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of The Breakup every morning at eight am Eastern on

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and Rumble. We're talking about the way the world

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>is changing, a big topic, a scary topic. We'll be

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>back with more on that in a minute. Don't go away,

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You're back all right, welcome back. If you just tune in,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the Mark Moss Show. I'm joined today

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>in studio with Nolan Byerley, the host of The Breakup

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>every morning eight am Eastern on YouTube and Rumble. Check

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>it out. Nolan. We've been covering a lot of information here,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and I love the history that you just brought there.

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, you know, the brief little blip that

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>we have in history, and I think really when you

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>understand that, it gives more context. One more thing that

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been going back and forth, Robert Reid Love and

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I did this pretty big conversation on his show about

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it recently, and I was talking the crisis, the crisis

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in confidence that we've in authority. There's a book written

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>called Revolt of the Public by an XCI analyst, and

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it talks about how the Internet now that information has

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>been democratized, and how the center, the authority can never

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>hold it will never it will never hold again because

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>now they can be discredited instantly, and so the authority

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>we used to give these institutions authority. Walter Cronkite on

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the news every night, had authority, and the doctor in

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>his white smock had authority, the press professor had the authority.

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>But today they're easily discredited. But because the information is

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>too great with the mob right, the crowd crewd source

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of information anyway. And if you look at that, you

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>can see that, you know, to your point, we haven't

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>really had these nation states forever. And really, as I

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>like to say, you know on the show, it's technology

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that's always changes the world. It changes the way we communicate,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>organized and work. I talk about these pendulums, and so

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>we have this pendulum that goes from centralization to decentralization,

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>which is sort of the theme of this show. And

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the pendulum is now maxed out at centralization is starting

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to swing back to decentralization. So if you look back

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>five hundred years ago, so two and fifty year cycle,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>so five hundred years ago, we had the farm and

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>cottage industry very decentralized. But then we had a technological revolution,

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>which was the Industrial Revolution, which brought people into cities

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and factories. And as that pendulum swung back, it's been

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.959
<v Speaker 1>about a two and fifty yark. As that pendulum swung

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just enough to live in America. You had

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to live in Chicago or New York or a city.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And then we had the introduction nineteen oh eight with

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Henry Ford with the automobile, but really mass production the

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>assembly line. And so then what happened is with these

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>assembly lines, everybody was sort of equal. You know, you're

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>way smarter than me, but on the assembly line, we're equal.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And we had the rise of this big middle class.

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>But what that created was this new management style. So

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>now we had to create this management style to manage

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the masses. And so now we manage everybody like a

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>cog and a wheel, and everybody was boiled down to spreadsheets.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And because we had mass management to manage the mass assembly,

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>then we created a government structure to govern the mass

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>management mass production. But today we're no longer in that age.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>We're in the information agent. So now back to the

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Sovereign Individual, the book that you mentioned, which to everybody listening,

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you should go read that book, The Sovereign Individual, highly

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>recommend it. Now we're no longer in the industrial age.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>We're the information agent. So now today we're all digital

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>nomads on our laptop, living all around the world. There's

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>no longer these big corporations. It's also part of the

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>reason why I think the middle class has fallen, not

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>so partly because yes, jobs have been shipped to China,

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>but also because in the information age, it's really more

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>of a meritocracy. We're not equal only as simply anymore.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But the problem, without getting too that, the problem is

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that the government structure we have today is still set

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>up for this mass production world, and now we're not

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>in that world anymore. So basically the thesis is that

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the current form of government we had today is just

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>no longer compatible.

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when I'm just chatting with people and I'm not

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to lay the whole history a Bitcoin onto them

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and everything, what I'll often say is, basically, we just

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>left the he's and the whole aircraft carrier running from

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>World War Two. We never shut any of the infrastructure off,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>everything that's that brought America to victory in World War Two.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 2>We just kept it running and we never we added

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>to it. We didn't change anything, Which is why personally,

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>as a bitcoiner, right I was a major supporter of

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, understanding always

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.719
<v Speaker 2>that he's a bully, understanding why not trying to make

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>anyone who doesn't want to be a fan of Donald

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Trump a fan. I get it why someone wouldn't like him.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I totally have always gotten he is a bully, Like

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I totally get it right. But as a bitcoiner, what

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I had to say is I like Trump won the

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>first campaign. I liked him in that first time around

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>because I knew he could change reality. He could do

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>exactly what you were saying. We had this hierarchy and

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the job of president is a made up job. It's

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 2>like it's just made up and we've just been practicing

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the president job. Now, the actual title of president is

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 2>a thing in the Constitution all that, but the way

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the job is practiced is just from convention and just

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>from habit and just from practice. And we created presidents

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>in the mold of FDR because and his uncle Teddy Roosevelt. Right,

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>that's where Hale to the Chief was even played when

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 2>he entered a room. Right, that was his uncle who

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 2>insisted on that. So the whole idea is that the

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>job that that I saw Trump inheriting was going to

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>change the hierarchy was gonna it was gonna flip reality

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>on top of its head. And we wouldn't think of

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the president as the same way. So I often to

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to sort of reiterate and double down so that people

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>know where I'm coming from. I would say, as a bitcoiner,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I love Donald Trump one, but I wanted Joe Biden

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>in the second time even more. And now for the

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>next election, I want John Fetterman to be the president

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 2>of the United States. You want, I'm sworn in tomorrow

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>right now. Of course, I do it to show the joke,

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>right that that what we want is someone like Biden

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>at this point in time to be exactly what he is.

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I think of it as just a beautiful punishment for

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 2>everyone who comes from that world of government corruption and

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 2>cronyism and kickbacks and double daling and all this nasty

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff that they do. Right, it's no that it shouldn't

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>be that we have politicians, career politicians that are worth

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of millions of dollars. And when bitcoiners look at

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the world, of course, right, we see financial engineering run amuck.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>We see an entire generation lost to financial engineering. As

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>far as what their contribution is to society, we know

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not their fault in a sense, right, The best

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.439
<v Speaker 2>and brightest will always go to where you get paid

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the most. Right, what we're trying to say in bitcoin

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 2>with a altering of time preference and some of these

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>things is the best and brightest should be making chairs

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 2>again and all of this stuff. And as an accelerationist,

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you can't help but love what Joe Biden is doing.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>And you can't help but love the whistleblowers and the

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 2>clear trail of crime here. Now, I'm trained as a lawyer,

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and when I look at twenty something shell companies, what's

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the product the Biden's selling? Right, Yeah, there's no products.

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 2>There's never been a product.

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're not left to conjecture. I mean we have

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the smoking guns, we have the WhatsApp messages, the text messages,

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>we have the wire transfers, we have the bank accounts.

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just never been more clear cut.

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's sort of perfect in many ways.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>America won World War Two, but Americans didn't win nothing. Now,

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want America's wealth to be based on other

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 2>people's poverty. But the rest of the world did real well.

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>After World War Two. China got everything I could have

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>ever wanted anything that China wanted, global access to markets.

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, wasn't that what Japan was fighting for in

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>World War Two? You know, China the same. They all

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 2>got whatever they wanted. Everyone got what they wanted. Now

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. I think that's great what America

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 2>did after World War Two, that it paid for the

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>reconstruction of the world and indeed gave China access to

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>global markets. I think all of that was why America

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>isn't exactly Rome right whenever, Oh, America's Rome right and

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 2>not exactly America is in a special place. It is

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 2>an amazing place. It's been hijacked, but it is an

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>amazing place that did amazing things, and that it let

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the world up off the mat at the end of

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>World War two is an amazing thing. And in the

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>same way, I think America is as far ahead today

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>as it was in the nineteen fifties. Weirdly, despite all

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 2>of our problems, we have energy sort of solve, like

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>we didn't shut our nuclear reactors off and celebrate it.

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>So America, when you look at it energy, the stock market,

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>all this money that was printed around the world, where

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 2>did it end up on the American stock market? Right?

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Because their fiat currencies were being inflated too, and all

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.919
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. But sitting there and watching Biden as

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the steward of the gon dollar, as I like to

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>call him, right, he's the steward of the gon dollar,

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and watching his disease adult brain try to come up

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 2>with these excuses about why is skid and him don't

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 2>do business together is kind of a perfect storm for bitcoin.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 2>And it's why I predict that twenty twenty four is

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 2>going to be all about bitcoin politically, well it already

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>helped it already is, but I mean it will be

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>on the tip of everyone's tongue. In fact, I'm actually

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>starting to plan a show on jack l Island in

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>anticipation of the twenty twenty four US election, basically to

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>just go and talk about how the US dollar was

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>created there in the first place, with the secret meeting

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>of the bank cartel and all that stuff, and actually

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>just do a bitcoin show and get into the spiritual

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>side of bitcoin and the whole worldview side of bitcoin.

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, well, you certainly have to invite me to that,

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.959
<v Speaker 1>as I love monetary history. It was cool. I've spent

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>a couple weeks in Europe just last month, and I

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>went to Florence and did a financial history tour in

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Florence and the Nazy family all of that, but you know,

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we got to wrap this up. You're listening to the

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Mark mass Show. I'm been joined by Nolan Bierley. He's

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the host of the Breakup Daily Show on YouTube and

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Rumble every day at eight am Eastern. So go check

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that out and let me know what you think about

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>this show. Hit me up on social media at one

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Mark Moss, leave me a comment and review the show,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we got. Thanks so much for listening.