WEBVTT - John Fields on NCAAs, the La Costa Redesign, and Coaching Spieth and Scheffler

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball in a bride egg, Frida egg, the dread and

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<v Speaker 3>Frida egg, Frida egg, Frida egg, Brian Egg, fridagg.

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<v Speaker 1>Bride egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off of

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<v Speaker 1>the hump. Welcome to the Friday Egg Golf Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Morrison and my guest today is Coach John Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Fields is a legend in college golf. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>the head men's golf coach at the University of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen ninety seven, and he's coached players like Cody Gribble,

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan for Telly, Jordan Speith, Scottie Scheffler, Cole Hammer, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cootie Brothers, and many more. He was also involved in

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<v Speaker 1>relocating the Division one NCAA Championships to a gil Hant's

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<v Speaker 1>redesigned course at Omni LaCosta. The University of Texas is

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<v Speaker 1>actually the host of that championship this year, and the

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<v Speaker 1>women's tournament is wrapping up as I record this with

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<v Speaker 1>a match between Stanford and UCLA. The men's event will

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<v Speaker 1>be played from May twenty fourth through the twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, coming right up. So Coach Fields was

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<v Speaker 1>very busy on the day that I talked to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was really grateful that he spent about forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes of his day just talking to me. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about with Coach Fields, He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of great stories, So I'm really excited about this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But first a word about USGA memberships. Are you a

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<v Speaker 1>with John Fields. Coach Fields Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing today, I'm doing wonderful. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have done a great job for golf in general,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm excited to be on with you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much, and of course I very

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<v Speaker 1>much appreciate you taking some time out of what is

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<v Speaker 1>a very busy day for you because the NCAA D

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<v Speaker 1>one Men's Golf Championships are coming up very very quickly here,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get right into it. What has the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the Longhorns men's golf season been so far? How

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<v Speaker 1>would you summarize that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it started off fairly solid in September.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a couple of finishes that were okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we won a couple match play tournaments, the Big

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve match Play in October, and then we actually tied

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona State for points at Cypress Point, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenal golf course. By the way, our kids get to

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<v Speaker 3>play great golf courses so throughout the year, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>Olympia Field, Cypress Point and others, exceptional golf courses, so

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<v Speaker 3>we try to do that. And college golf is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of generally at least at a high level in that regard,

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<v Speaker 3>but we finished off with a runner up finish to

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona State just by points. Actually we tied, but the

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<v Speaker 3>way they did it, we finished runner up.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get the trophy. And then we started in

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<v Speaker 2>January and had.

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<v Speaker 3>A bump in the road at Hawaii and that right

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<v Speaker 3>that was really a turning point for us. We kind

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<v Speaker 3>of started doing things a little bit differently. Like all

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<v Speaker 3>coaches do, you make adjustments and you try to do

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<v Speaker 3>some things that would be protective for your team. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>some of those things kicked in and did a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of did a one eight for our team. We have town,

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<v Speaker 3>we have five guys that can really play, but everybody

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be on the same page and everybody needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be doing the same things, and so made a

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<v Speaker 3>few adjustments.

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<v Speaker 2>We finished third in UH.

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<v Speaker 3>Late February at Las Vegas at at the Southern high

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<v Speaker 3>Collegiate Masters, Southern Highlands being another great course that we play.

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<v Speaker 3>And that third place was done without Christian Moss, who

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<v Speaker 3>was simultaneously playing in the African Amateur.

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<v Speaker 2>And he lost it a playoff there.

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<v Speaker 3>So you would think, as one of our best players

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<v Speaker 3>is not there, we wouldn't have had that third place finished,

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<v Speaker 3>but for some reason we did, and really that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of kick started our entire season from there. We had

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<v Speaker 3>one bump in the road at Sea Island, or actually

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<v Speaker 3>at the Floridian, another great golf course, but we've been

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<v Speaker 3>gaining momentum ever since. And we won our conference championship

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<v Speaker 3>by eighteen shots over Oklahoma and twenty three shots over

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State, and those were the three teams that were

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<v Speaker 3>under part for the week. And then we finally felt

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<v Speaker 3>finished the year getting to the national Championship by winning

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<v Speaker 3>the regional at the University of Texas Golf Club, won

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<v Speaker 3>by sixteen of a really good Tennessee team. Had no

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<v Speaker 3>idea that we would be hosting the national championship at

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<v Speaker 3>this moment, but here we are, and I guess the

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<v Speaker 3>Good Lord smiled on us because we had an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to play at home in a regional and obviously that

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<v Speaker 3>gives you a little bit of a foothold and a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of home course advantage, and we utilize that

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<v Speaker 3>and to a great extent and played really good golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are going to be some of your key players

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<v Speaker 1>this coming week in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say they all are.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's Kristin Moss who won the NCAA regional. You

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<v Speaker 3>have Brian Stark, who is a graduate transfer from Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 3>State that has really started to play super solid. Another

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<v Speaker 3>graduate transfer from SMU, Nathan Petronzio, has closed out the

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<v Speaker 3>season in great fashion. And then you've got six foot

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<v Speaker 3>nine Tommy Morrison from Dallas. Kind of an anomaly in

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<v Speaker 3>golf still, but the athletes that are coming out, we

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<v Speaker 3>may have more like him that size, strength and ability,

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<v Speaker 3>great hands around the greens. But Tommy's an exceptional golfer

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<v Speaker 3>and has had a really nice spring. And then Keaton

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<v Speaker 3>Vote is from Austin, Texas. Pound for pound, maybe one

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<v Speaker 3>of the longest guys in golf. If he turns sideways,

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<v Speaker 3>you might miss him, but he's pretty thin, weighs a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little under one hundred and forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to be able to eat like he

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<v Speaker 3>does and not put on any weight, but that's not

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<v Speaker 3>possible for me. But Keaton's done a great job and

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<v Speaker 3>he's a young person that's a great player. And right

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<v Speaker 3>there from Austin, Texas. And then our substitute is a

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<v Speaker 3>freshman named Jack Gilbert, just a wonderful guy that knows

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<v Speaker 3>what his role is right now, and that's to help

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<v Speaker 3>us anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>That he can.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing that and couldn't be more appreciative of Jack Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a wonderful kid and just won our Inner Squad tournament,

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<v Speaker 3>so he can play as well.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put Keaton and Tommy side by side with

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<v Speaker 1>each other, there would be a little bit of a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Keaton could probably fit in one leg of his pants.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how Stan Keaton.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so beyond your own players. For the viewers at home,

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<v Speaker 1>who are some players at this tournament that you think

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<v Speaker 1>people should keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, You've got Gordon's Sargeant from Vanderbilt.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got.

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<v Speaker 3>Christo Lampprig from Georgia Tech. You've got Austin Greezer from

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina. You've got multiple players in this field that

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<v Speaker 3>played in the Masters, and they'll be recognizable. One thing

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<v Speaker 3>that we're doing this evening, we're having a Fred Haskins

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<v Speaker 3>Award evening with Ben Crenshaw. Ben won the Fred Haskins

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<v Speaker 3>Award nineteen seventy one, seventy two and seventy three. That's

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<v Speaker 3>when it started that award. That's our Heisman Trophy of Golf.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have ten individuals and their coaches in that room

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<v Speaker 3>this evening. Steve Wils sponsors it, and we're all looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to that because you have kind of the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of college golf at that seventy one, seventy two, seventy three,

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<v Speaker 3>and now you're going to get these ten individuals that

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<v Speaker 3>are going to get a chance to meet Ben. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's met some of them just simply because they've played

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<v Speaker 3>in the Masters, and he has the presence there as

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and of course the Longhorns

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<v Speaker 1>team with Ben Crenshaw and Tom Kaide. What has been

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<v Speaker 1>the presence of those players in your program.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Texas Golf, just so you know, is ninety eight

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<v Speaker 3>years old. It has one hundred and two victories on

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<v Speaker 3>the PGA Tour by sixteen individuals. It has ten major championships,

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<v Speaker 3>with six major champions we have four national championships and

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<v Speaker 3>a multitude of regionals and conference championships over time. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of great players play at Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>It certainly is not John Field. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that right now. I'm one of five coaches that have

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<v Speaker 3>coached at Texas. Tom Penick nineteen twenty seven through nineteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey Penick, who wrote the Little Red Book.

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<v Speaker 2>And was the world renowned.

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<v Speaker 3>World Golf Hall of Famer that wrote the Little Red Book,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was our coach from nineteen thirty to nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty one, and then George Hannen took over an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 3>coach from sixty one to just about nineteen eighty, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was Ben and Tom's coach in college and they

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<v Speaker 3>won the nineteen seventy one and seventy two national championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben won the nineteen seventy one, seventy two, seventy three

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<v Speaker 3>individual National Championship and then turned pro and then won

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<v Speaker 3>the Texas Open right after that, his first professional event.

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<v Speaker 3>And then as we've gone along, we've acquired a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of great players. And so now you've got two number

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<v Speaker 3>ones in the world that have played in a recent

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<v Speaker 3>time frame in Jeordia Speed and Scottie Scheffler, and we've

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<v Speaker 3>got more than ten individuals on the PGA Tour right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're really proud of our program. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you again, I don't have anything hardly to do

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<v Speaker 3>with me. It's Central Texas it's our ud golf club

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<v Speaker 3>that was built in two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and three, our golf course was unveiled.

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<v Speaker 3>Since then, we've had twenty seven victories on the PGA

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<v Speaker 3>Tour and players that have played there and five major championships.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can tell golf has changed. In college golf,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of great facilities. But Austin, Texas, there

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<v Speaker 3>must be something in the water, because something's happening right here.

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<v Speaker 1>So coach Fields, this will be the first men's NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>Championship hosted at the refreshed Omni La Costa. You were

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<v Speaker 1>involved in making this switch away from the former venue

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<v Speaker 1>for this tournament, which was Greyhawk in Arizona. So could

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me that story. Why did that all happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot to it, not just do the

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<v Speaker 3>short version. But in twenty sixteen, we played the National

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<v Speaker 3>Championship in Eugene, Oregon at Eugene Country Club, Oregon's home

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<v Speaker 3>golf course, and we lost to them in the final.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the reason we lost and who knows how

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<v Speaker 3>it would come out anyway, but Bohostler, who's now on

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<v Speaker 3>the PGA Tour, tore up his shoulder on the fifteenth

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<v Speaker 3>toll in the semifinals and was not able to compete.

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<v Speaker 3>He was able to finish out.

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<v Speaker 2>His round and win. We beat usc that particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Round and he was able to finish, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>not able to go the next day, so we had

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<v Speaker 3>to give a point to Oregon. And you only got

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<v Speaker 3>to win three matches to win the national championships, so

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<v Speaker 3>given a point, it's pretty difficult. But we lost to

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<v Speaker 3>him in a playoff, but Bo won the Fred Haskins Award.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're going to do this evening and they had

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<v Speaker 3>us down to the Golf Channel in Orlando and they

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<v Speaker 3>told me that viewership had been up one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent over the year before because we had the

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<v Speaker 3>East Coast time slot. So I just kind of tucked

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<v Speaker 3>that away and never forgot about that. But then fast

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<v Speaker 3>forward to twenty eighteen, we went to the Walker Cup

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<v Speaker 3>that gil Hents had just redone the La Country Club

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<v Speaker 3>golf course La North where they played the.

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<v Speaker 2>US Open this last year. So I was out there

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the.

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<v Speaker 3>I was out there to watch Scotti, Scheffler and Dug

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<v Speaker 3>Kgim playing the Walker Cup on this really refined golf

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<v Speaker 3>course by Gil.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was enamored by that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was talking with Jeff Shackelford, who is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a golf dignitary here in California and did some

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<v Speaker 3>work for the Golf Channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I told him, wouldn't it be.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to have a national championship in southern California where

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<v Speaker 3>the weather's perfect and you got the East Coast time slot?

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, yeah, but where would you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because most of the golf courses are dated. There's not

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<v Speaker 3>really a great place to host a championship like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And the courses like a Riviera or La North, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to give you their golf course for three

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<v Speaker 3>weeks because it's not just the men, it's the women.

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<v Speaker 3>And we love that now that we're combined with the

0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.520
<v Speaker 3>women and the men, but it's really a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a three week commitment for the for the golf course,

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<v Speaker 3>and this time of year, pretty much in any place

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<v Speaker 3>in the USA, it's going to be hard to get

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<v Speaker 3>a golf course for three years and give up three

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<v Speaker 3>weeks annually. So I knew Bob Rowling and I told Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, well, what about LaCosta? And he said, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, coach, great great hotel, great venue, but the

0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.280
<v Speaker 3>golf course is dated. And I said, well, how about

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<v Speaker 3>if we had gil Hants do it? And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you did that, that could be a going concern.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I one of our philanthropists, great donors alumni

0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.119
<v Speaker 3>is Bob Rowling. He owns all the omnis in America

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<v Speaker 3>along with his son Blake Rolling, and they have fifty

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<v Speaker 3>two properties in their portfolio and twenty nine golf courses,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they loved the idea. I brought Mike Holder

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<v Speaker 3>from Oklahoma State, kind of the tzar of collegiate golf,

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<v Speaker 3>and Chris del Conte to meet them and to sell

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<v Speaker 3>them on this idea.

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<v Speaker 2>They loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>They loved the idea, and we convinced them that this

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<v Speaker 3>could be the permanent site and the home collegiate golf

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<v Speaker 3>going forward. So they invested thirty million dollars in the

0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.880
<v Speaker 3>golf course with Gil Hants, with this refined new golf

0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.240
<v Speaker 3>course that's now seven five hundred yards for men. The

0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.040
<v Speaker 3>women played it right at sixty three hundred yards and

0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.880
<v Speaker 3>they finished over par. So it's obviously a really good

0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.040
<v Speaker 3>golf course as a team twelve under one individually, but

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<v Speaker 3>They liked the idea. The Golf channel loved the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>The only problem was is that we're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego State hosted. And the only problem there was

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<v Speaker 3>is that the golf committee, the NCAA Golf Committee, came

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<v Speaker 3>back and said, you have to make this a neutral site,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning nobody can play it, including the host team. So

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<v Speaker 3>that ain't no sense to San Diego State. So they

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<v Speaker 3>pulled out and we asked UCLA, USC Pepperdine, UCSD. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do it because there is a financial commitment,

0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.360
<v Speaker 3>time commitment, staff commitment, and energy commitment to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>So bottom line, nobody wanted to do it. But because

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<v Speaker 3>the neutral site and the permanent site might be great,

0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.320
<v Speaker 3>college golf our athletic director Chris del Conte decided that

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.959
<v Speaker 3>we would host it. So I had no idea we

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<v Speaker 3>were going to do this, but here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how the University of Texas came to host

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a tournament taking place in southern California. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes sense now. So when it comes to

0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the course and the redesign that was done there, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how much you were privy to that process,

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<v Speaker 1>but could you give me a basic idea of how

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<v Speaker 1>Gil went about renovating this course, what he did well.

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<v Speaker 3>When Gill signed up that he was going to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>because that was a higher level meeting than coach fields,

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.879
<v Speaker 3>that was with the rollings. But he decided that he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do it and he came up with an

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<v Speaker 3>initial design and then we had about twenty coaches from

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<v Speaker 3>around the nation, both men and women, walk around the

0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 3>golf course with him, and he kind of gave his vision,

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<v Speaker 3>but he listened to feedback from the women's and the

0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:04.400
<v Speaker 3>men's coaches. We knew full well that he had done

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<v Speaker 3>the real course for the Olympics with both men and

0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 3>women in mind and match play, and so we were

0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.560
<v Speaker 3>all very comfortable with him. But he listened to us

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.240
<v Speaker 3>and we went around it and he designed it and

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.240
<v Speaker 3>it's the same routing initially, but it has so much

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<v Speaker 3>more today. Multiple bunkers that were added, cross bunkers that

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.560
<v Speaker 3>are illusionary out there on the golf course, green structures

0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:39.800
<v Speaker 3>that are full on gil Hans green structures, new tea boxes,

0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:47.320
<v Speaker 3>new opportunities to walk the golf course, added barankas, added

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:53.359
<v Speaker 3>fescue and native areas on the golf course, It truly

0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.800
<v Speaker 3>is spectacular and everybody out here who has seen it

0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.280
<v Speaker 3>because women have already played their championship although the women

0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 3>play the championship round today Stanford against UCLA, and of

0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.879
<v Speaker 3>course everybody's saying, well, that's because it's a West coasting

0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:10.680
<v Speaker 3>and has nothing to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It has everything to do with that. Those are the

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 2>two best teams playing right now. That's all there is

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 3>We won the national championship at Riviera and we're certainly

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<v Speaker 3>not from California, So how do we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got home field advantage just because.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the fact that the you're in Sullner, California, makes

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<v Speaker 3>no difference.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Stanford probably would have gotten there even

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 1>if they were I don't know, playing as far away

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<v Speaker 1>from California as possible. That's that kind of team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Ann Walker has done a great job. She's the women's

0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.120
<v Speaker 3>golf coach there. Alison Brown has done a great job.

0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:52.119
<v Speaker 3>She's the head rules official for women set up golf course.

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Flying blind and two over wins the medal for the team,

0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:00.119
<v Speaker 3>twelve under wins the medal for the women individual and

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty over made the match play the elite eight teams.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't embarrass anybody, but you had to come to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So with all of this happening, obviously there has to

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 1>be some amount of money involved. A lot of this

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.879
<v Speaker 1>takes funding. So tell me about the role that the

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<v Speaker 1>College World Golf Championships Foundation plays in all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for asking that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I knew once we secured the event that most

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<v Speaker 3>likely Omni La Costa and the University of Texas would

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 3>not want to be the benevolent godparents or grandparents of

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 3>college golf going forward. And so what we did was

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 3>we connected with the College World Series to kind of

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.119
<v Speaker 3>figure out how they had done things because they're a

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<v Speaker 3>permanent site, and really College World Series, the men's College

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.560
<v Speaker 3>World Series is the goal standard for a standalone permanent

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<v Speaker 3>side and that's simply because they've been in existence for

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four years and the College World Series Foundation was

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 3>founded in nineteen fifty, so they have funded and operated

0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the championship for men's baseball for seventy four years, including

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 3>this year. So we connected with Amy Hornicker, who is

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<v Speaker 3>the executive director of the College World Series Foundation, and

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 3>she shared with us along with their twenty board members

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.199
<v Speaker 3>all of their financials, how they do their business, the

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:41.640
<v Speaker 3>things that they're able to compete with and do, and

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 3>how their infrastructure works. So what myself, my wife, and

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 3>my daughter, April Workman, who's now the executive director of

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 3>the College World Golf Championships Foundation, we all developed this

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 3>idea that we could possibly be the funding arm going

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 3>forward for collegiate golf. We want to start with Division

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:06.440
<v Speaker 3>one golf, obviously because I'm still coaching, I'm at Texas,

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>and this is the vehicle to do it. But what

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 3>we're going to do is eventually we're going to help

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 3>division two, division three, both men and women. We're going

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 3>to help a NEI, and we're going to help junior college.

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 3>And we've partnered with the Folds of Honor and the

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<v Speaker 3>First Tea, and we're working hard to get the United

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 3>States Golf Association to help us and work with us.

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 3>They're already doing that from an agronomic point of view,

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:33.920
<v Speaker 3>so we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Really thrilled about that.

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 3>The PGA Tour, the PGA of America, and the LPGA,

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of entities that really focus around

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 3>collegiate golf. And if you will, I would tell you

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 3>that I believe that we've never been able to market

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 3>ourselves just simply because the NCAA will not allow you

0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to compete with their eighteen partners, So even on site,

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you can't sell sponsorship and give people the kind of

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 3>value for their dollars, so they don't do it. But

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 3>we're going to be able to work around that a

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.919
<v Speaker 3>little bit here at Omni La Costa, and we're going

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 3>to be able to do things a little bit offsite

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 3>that have never been done for college golf, including the

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.479
<v Speaker 3>Fred Haskins Award by Stevel this evening.

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:20.400
<v Speaker 2>So we're going to do all those.

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Things, and essentially what we're going to try to do

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 3>is put rocket fuel in college golf and then give

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 3>the twelve thousand kids who annually play college golf at

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 3>those different levels Division one, two, three men and women,

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 3>NEI men and women, Junior college men and women, Division

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 3>one and two an.

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable opportunity to grow.

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 3>So I believe that college golf is kind of the

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 3>center of the sun, and nobody even knows it because we've.

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Never marketed ourselves.

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 3>But if you think about it, the junior golfers and

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 3>high school golfers in America want to play college golf,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 3>and their parents want them to play college golf, and

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 3>they want them to go to college. And so from there,

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 3>out of that son comes your golf professionals, your golf instructors.

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 3>You're you're agronomous, You're there's just so many of them,

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 3>the ones, the guys and gals that come out and

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 3>work for the golf companies. On the other side of

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 3>the equation, you have a lot of individuals that become doctors, lawyers,

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 3>and insurance agents, real estate agents, entrepreneurs, investors, bankers, you

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 3>name it. And they're the members at the club or

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 3>they're the members that play at the public golf courses,

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 3>and they're the individuals really that aspire up to presidents

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 3>of clubs. And then on top of everything else, those

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 3>are the people that really give back.

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 2>To collegiate golf and junior golf for that matter.

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 3>And then there are those individuals that matriculatea like a

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Tiger Woods who played at Stanford, or an Onnica sorn

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Stam who played at Arizona, or a Jordan Speed or

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.479
<v Speaker 3>a Scottie Scheffler that rise to number one in the world.

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 3>So there are those individuals as well, and all those

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 3>individuals have had so much success because of college Golf,

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 3>so we're hoping that they'll come back and help us

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 3>continue to fund this at a super high level. Looking

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 3>at two to three million dollars annually, we're just going

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 3>to bust it and we're going to give it our

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<v Speaker 3>best job to add rocket fuel to college golf.

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I wanted to take a quick break here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some videos Friday Golf did for this week's

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Charles Schwab Challenge on the PGA Tour. As you probably know,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the Charles Schwab Challenge takes place at Colonial Country Club

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in Fort Worth, Texas. Now, over the past year, Gil

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Hans's renovated Colonial, restoring some of the features that it

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>had in its early days. The great Perry Maxwell had

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a hand in Colonial's initial design, so there's a lot

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of cool stuff out there, and so with the help

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.479
<v Speaker 1>of Charles Schwab, Friday Golf was able to document some

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 1>of Hans's work. We have a couple of videos on

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>our YouTube channel that you should check out. One is

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>a general overview of Hans's renovation and the other focuses

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>on Colonial's greens. Lots of beautiful footage in there and

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lots of great insights from not only gil Hants, but

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>also Colonial's director of agronomy, Rich Macintosh. So you can

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>find those videos on our YouTube channel and on our

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<v Speaker 1>various social accounts X, Instagram, etc. I think you'll enjoy them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Let's get back to John Fields. So getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the course real quick, Omni la costa. Yeah,

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>what are just a couple of holes maybe on the

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>back nine that viewers should watch out for if they'd

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like to understand what this new course offers well.

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 3>First of all, gil Hans wanted to create a golf

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 3>course that would be challenging for both the men's and

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 3>women's teams. He also wanted to give us an opportunity

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 3>to help us identify the best college golf teams in

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 3>America on an annual basis and the best individual players

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 3>on an annual basis. So he created length. He added

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:37.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot of different opportunities for trouble, but also a

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 3>very fair test. The greens are phenomenal, but I love

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.959
<v Speaker 3>in particular the fifteenth and sixteenth told the fifteenth, sixteenth,

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>seventeenth and eighteenth are viewable from the clubhouse, so people

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 3>don't even have to leave their perch to be able

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 3>to watch this, but it's the fifteenth is a three

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty yard part four with a bunker in

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 3>the middle about two hundred in the middle of the fairway.

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 3>It's a raised green with two bunkers in front, and

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 3>then a forty five degree angle hill that goes right

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 3>into a water hazard. So it's very similar to the

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 3>front of fifteen at Augusta National and it is shaved down,

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 3>so if you hit it over the green, it's going

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 3>in the water. Sixteen is virtually the same. Sixteen has

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>a reminiscent of number twelve at Augusta water hazard in

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>front or water feature in front, a bunker in front

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>of the green, shaved grass right in front of the

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of the green, and then a wonderful green, two bunkers

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 3>in the back. That's probably going to be our signature hole.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's the most iconic shot that's ever been hit

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 3>at omnio A Costa was Tiger Woods early in the

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 3>morning in nineteen ninety seven on a Monday, Tom Layman

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 3>hits it over the back of the green and tigers

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 3>dix as seven iron to about six inches and wins.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 2>The golf tournament.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the Mercedes Championship as it was not act and.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 3>So those two holes in particular are going to be exciting.

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 3>The eighteenth is going to be exciting. It's a six

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 3>hundred yard part five and the seventeenth is.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>A five hundred yard part four.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>So this what we did want to do is we

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>want to make sure the guys got a chance to

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 3>hit drivers.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Nothing against Greyhawk. They did a great job for three years.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>They overseated their golf course, They created a championship value.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 3>But the kids can only hit two or three drivers

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 3>around here. Bring that driver out almost every home.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, Coach Fields, let's talk a little bit about

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>your own career. After you played college golf, which you

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>did in New Mexico, you spent a year, i believe

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.959
<v Speaker 1>on the European Tour, and I'm curious whether there was

0:29:56.040 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a particular event or anything that made you DECI I

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>had to end your playing career and pursue another line

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of work in the golf industry.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 3>That was financial reasons for continuing, because I couldn't continue

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 3>to fund it. My wife and I were already married

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>at that time. She was my caddie, so I saved

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 3>money there.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>But I did go to.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 3>La Manga, Spain and played the tour school there and

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 3>made it finished seventh. If you saw me play golf

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 3>right now, you would say you're a liar. You can't

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>play golf at all. But I haven't played in the

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 3>last twenty years. But a long story short. At that time,

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Sebi bi Asteros, Greg Norman, Nick Faldo, Jose Maria a

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Lot the Ball, Bernard Langer, Ian Woosnam, they were all

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 3>full time on that tour. So these are some of

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the greatest players that have ever lived, in Masters champions

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 3>and Major champions. I just didn't measure up to those guys.

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>That's just all there is to it. I gave it

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 3>my best for a year, so I decided when we

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 3>got home that we would go into the business of golf.

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 3>So I became a golf professional in southern Arizona. I

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 3>had a friend that I had grown up around in

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.239
<v Speaker 3>southern New Mexico where I grew up and ask him

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 3>for a job. I was going to be there for

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>six months and then I was going to actually go

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>try to play again.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 2>So we decided to start a family.

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>At that time, my wife and I got pregnant and

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 3>she delivered a baby boy, and my career was pretty

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 3>much over. I didn't want to be one of those

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 3>golf professionals that you know, went through two or three

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 3>wives and maybe wasn't the kind of family man that

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>you could be. So I decided I'm done with playing.

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll be a golf professional teaching instructor, and so I

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>worked really hard to.

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Get my class A in the PGA.

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Did that over a three year period and was a

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>head pro at a small club in northern Arizona, Control

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Valley Country Club for a moment in time, and then

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Dwayne Knight, my coach at New Mexico, decided to leave

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 3>and go to UNLV. That left the job open at

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 3>New Mexico, and lo and behold, the Good Lord smiled

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 3>on us, and I took that job August first of

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 3>actually December first of nineteen ninety seven, eighty seven December first,

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty seven. Was there for ten years, had some

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 3>great players, including Tim Herron, who went on to win

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 3>four times on the PGA Tour and won twenty three

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 3>million dollars playing. I was hired by Delos Dodds in

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety seven. August first, ninety seven in Texas, and

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I've been there ever since.

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you speak before about how important Cody Gribble

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>was to the golf program at Texas. And this is

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>fast forwarding a little bit from nineteen ninety seven, obviously,

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but for people who don't know, Cody is now a

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>veteran player on the PGA Tour and Cornferry Tour. Why

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>was he such a key figure for you and the university.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, in ninety seven when I came in, we recruited

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 3>extremely well. In fact, the five guys that we got

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 3>were David Goss at number one junior in America, John

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Cloud number two junior in America, Russell Server was number

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 3>seven junior in America, and Matt Rose was eleven and

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Kulli Bragon was top fifteen. So the golf we called

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 3>them the Fab five and we went on to do

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 3>really well with those teams. We finished second, third and

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>fourth in the national or third, fourth and fifth in

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>the National Championship and won three Big twelve championships two

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 3>thousand and two, three and four. The problem was is

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 3>that when we got into the bill of the golf course,

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>which was open in two thousand and three, I kind

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 3>of took my off the recruiting ball, and as a result,

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 3>our teams weren't as good two thousand and five, six,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.239
<v Speaker 3>seven and eight. And really the fortunate part of that

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 3>was at that time our football team was magnificent. They

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 3>won the national championship in two thousand and five. In

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and nine they played Ford again against Alabama,

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.280
<v Speaker 3>and then our basketball team had been to the final

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 3>four and algi Garito.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>At baseball had won two times in the National championship.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 3>So de Los Dodds, my boss, was kind of bulletproof

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 3>at the time. So there was people for calling from

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 3>my head because we were between fifteen and twenty five,

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 3>and we weren't a terrible golf team, but we weren't

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 3>the kind of golf team that we'd like to be,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 3>and so there were people calling from my head. And

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 3>then Cody Gribble came along. Man's man, great young man,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 3>fantastic player. I could back up everything he talked about

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and was just super visible and everybody wanted to be

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 3>around him. So he's the best recruiter I've ever seen

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 3>or heard about with as far as a player. And

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Rick Barnes, our basketball coach, told me, your players are

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 3>a either your best recruiters.

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Or they're not. It's just one or the other. There's

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 2>no in between.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>And so, long story short, we were very fortunate to

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>get these guys to be our kind of the base

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 3>of our game again and that was started with Cody Gribble,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 3>and then Jordan Spif came along. After Jordan Spieth, it

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 3>was Bochastler and from there Doug gim and it's just

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 3>been a change since then with Kramer, Hiccock and others

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 3>and Dylan for Telly and my goodness, its just it's

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 3>just manifested itself. But really, my center of the sun

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>really is uh his code Gribble.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when you first saw Jordan Speith play call? Yeah,

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and what your first impressions were.

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was on a Perry Maxwell golf course Dorna Kills.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>It's it's been renovated. We actually held an event there,

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>our company held an event there.

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Terrific golf course, it really is, and Perry Maxwell is

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 3>actually buried on that golf course.

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I saw Jordan.

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I was a little late to the first tee, so

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>he'd already played in the first hole.

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Number one.

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Number two is a part three over water and he

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 3>missed it, short sighted himself, right, and then he hit

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 3>this magnificent chip. He was in ninth grade at the time,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 3>hit this incredible chip shot and the ball just spun

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 3>right down to the hole to about six inches, and

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I want that guy on my golf Hm.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 3>That's the first time I ever saw him play.

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And then, obviously, as you got to know him

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 1>over the years he was in ninth grade, you said

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>during that tournament, he was by the time he was sixteen,

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>sort of a widely acknowledged prodigy in golf. How did

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you go about convincing him to go to college and

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>specifically to go to the University of Texas.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, you have to be relentless in recruiting, and so

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 3>we did everything could. He probably got a letter from

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 3>me every day for two years. And you have to

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>be relentless. You've gotta communicate, and we did that. But

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I will tell you a funny thing about Jordan, and

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 3>it's apropos for Scotty because neither one of them use

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 3>their phones hardly at all. Scotty's not even on any

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 3>kind of social media, so neither one of them use

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 3>their phone very much.

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>And I called up Sean Speith.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Really kind of in the middle of Jordan's junior year,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 3>and I said, is Jordan interested in Texas?

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 2>He goes, yeah, Coach, why would you ask?

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 3>And I said, well, I'll email him and I might

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 3>not hear back from him for ten days, or I'll

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>text him and I might not hear back from him

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 3>for seven days. And if I call him, I really

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 3>can talk to him on the phone. I said, He's

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>just it's just really hard to communicate with him. He goes, Coach,

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 3>don't worry about that. He does that to his parents.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 3>He just doesn't use his phone. And I would say

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 3>Scotty's in the same boat. And what that's done, that's

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 3>created calmness in their minds. Our phones and the things

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>that we utilize today to communicate are just a natural

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 3>part of our world, but it adds another dimension in

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 3>terms of energy that's extended an emotion. And if you

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 3>eliminate those two things by not using your phone very much,

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 3>you're in a better place. And those guys live there.

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Talking about Scotty Scheffler, what is something that you think

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>people don't yet understand very well about him? Because I

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>think in a way golf fans, golf media even are

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>just getting to know Scotty Scheffler. Yeah, we're just starting

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to come to grips with who he is as a

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>person from what you saw as his coach. What do

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:45.959
<v Speaker 1>people not yet understand about him?

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, he's got great parents, Scott and

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Dienergy is absolutely wonderful and raised a wonderful son and

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 3>three great daughters. They did a fantastic job, and they

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 3>did it their way. Scotty Scheffler is a six foot

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 3>three and a half great athlete, but he's also blessed

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>with the opportunity to be an unbelievably great person.

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>So he was always those things.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 3>At Texas, he grew significantly when I recruited him. I

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 3>started recruiting him with his eighth grade he was one

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>hundred pounds and he was five foot zero in eighth grade.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 3>When he turned up on campus five years later, he

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 3>was six foot three and a half over two hundred pounds,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and his little tiny hen had gone from tiny han

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 3>to XL on the group on the globe side. So

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 3>he groups dramatically, and that put a lot of pressure

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 3>on his bones and it manifested itself on a kind

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>of an upper back issue that he had for four years.

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 2>So he played great for US.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 3>He was the NCAA Freshman of the Years, three time

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 3>All American.

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 2>He played in two US Opens. He played he was.

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 3>A low am you're at Aaron Hills in the US

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Open and he played in the Walker Cup team.

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>And people ask me all the time, why do you

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>play better for you? We don't understand. I'm like, guy

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>won multiple times. What do you want? You know?

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, they were comparing him to Jordan's me. Everybody did

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 3>at the time. But now look at what's happened. I mean,

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 3>everybody compares himself to Scotty Scheffler now, so everybody takes

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>their own path. But the way he arrives he's just

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.479
<v Speaker 3>such a great person, cares about people. Jordan does two

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 3>and that's the bottom line. They just they really enjoy

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 3>people and they care about people. It's not all about them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan and Scotty are both extremely well behaved individuals, polite

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and genuinely so right, this is not an act that

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<v Speaker 1>they put it, Yeah, exactly, and they you know, this

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>is who they are. I think everybody who has interacted

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>with them acknowledges that at the same time, they are

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>both extremely competitive, right, do you have any examples that

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>come to mind for either of them of the extent

0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of their competitiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're both probably have an extra gene of competitiveness,

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 3>if that's possible. There's been five guys in my career,

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 3>those two, Scotti Scheffler and George Jordan Speed, Tim Herron

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>in New Mexico, Bohastler, and Cody Gribble that basically have

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 3>a volcano in them. And they all had their instances

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 3>where maybe something came out of their mouth that wasn't

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 3>very good. But that's what College of Golf is all about.

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<v Speaker 3>We're taking eighteen to twenty two year olds and helping

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 3>build their egos but also refining them as individuals, to

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 3>give them an opportunity to really, really really treat people

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 3>special and understand it's not all about them. And I

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>would say that. I mean, if we had two hours,

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I'd probably go through a bunch of stories. But the

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 3>bottom line is they care about people. That's all there

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 3>is to it. And they both are giving back to

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>their communities right now, they're giving back Texas Golf not

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 3>going to be more appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, can you tell me any of those stories with

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the with the caveat that these are good guys. We

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>know they're good guys and being competitive doesn't make you

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a bad guy at all. But you know, I'm curious

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>about this because you know, Jordan Spieth and Scotty Scheffler

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>both have a great and well earned image as really

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>nice guys. But I think it's important to remember that

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>they're as great as they are, partly because they really

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:30.919
<v Speaker 1>really want to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Right In twenty fifteen, when we played the regional championship

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:41.959
<v Speaker 3>at Lubbock and Texas Tech golf Course, the Roles Golf

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Course by Tom Doak, we were invited to play a

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 3>match play event about six weeks before the regional was

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 3>going to be played there, and the way they did it.

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 3>We were playing Texas Tech. In the final round of

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 3>that match play event. Scottish Scheffler and Bo Hostler were

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 3>in the same group and they were playing each a

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 3>different individual from Texas Tech. We got to the eleventh hole,

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 3>par five, and they both hit quality drives right down

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the fairway. So Bo Hostler and Scotty

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 3>and I was walking with bow. I was not walking

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 3>with Scotty. Can only I was staying focused on Bo

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Hostler in his round, and we got up to the

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>first ball and Bo looked down at it, and then

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 3>we continue to.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Work to the next ball.

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 3>So I figured, well, that's that's Scotty's ball, and of

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 3>course Bo was happy because he had out driven him

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>by fifteen yards.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 2>So Scotty hits his shot.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>We're getting ready to hit or Bo's getting ready to

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 3>hit his shot, and he looks down he goes, that's

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 3>not my ball, and you would have thought Mount Vesuvius

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.359
<v Speaker 3>had just gone off about fifteen yards behind us, because

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Scotty recognized at that moment that he hit the wrong

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 3>ball and he had just lost a hole by hitting

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 3>the wrong ball. So rather than just go with it,

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>he took off, running two hundred and fifty yards to

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the front of the green to retrieve that ball, and

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 3>then sprinted back and put that ball right at the

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 3>base of Bohastler's feet. He was so mad at Bo

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Hoostler for doing what he did because he felt like, well,

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 3>you kind of tricked me because you looked at that

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 3>ball and then you stand by the other one.

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 2>He didn't check it.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Bo says to this day that that's Scotty's fault, and

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe it is, and Scotty ultimately took.

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Responsibility for it. He lost the hole.

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 3>But we got to the next tea box, which was

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 3>a par three, and Scotty was just so mad he

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 3>couldn't see straight. And I said, bow, we are not

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 3>going to go another step forward until you apologize to Scotty.

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, what do I got to apologize to

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 3>him for? He wanted to hit the wrong ball and

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, we walked right past it. You looked

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 3>at it. He goes, Coach, he hit the wrong ball

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 3>and it's his fault. And I'm like, we're not going

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 3>another step forward until you apologize to him. So Scotty

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 3>was coming right behind us and he turns around and goes,

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, and then we kept going. And so to

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 3>this day it's a funny story, but it shows you

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 3>how I mean, Scotty Scheffler did five hundred yards and

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the time was, but he could

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 3>have been on the Olympic team at that time.

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 2>He was so angry.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, speaking of things that people might not

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 1>totally understand about Scotty Scheffler right now, just from seeing

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>him on TV. Is that, as you've mentioned a couple

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>of times, he's a big dude. This is he's bilk foot.

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Three and a half pushing six foot four and over

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 3>two hundred pounds, but a delightful guy. And he's got

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Ted Scott on his bag, he's got Grandy Smith teaching him.

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 3>He's got the most wonderful wife in the world other

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 3>than Pearl Fields, and that's Meredith Scheffler.

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, you know, you've seen a lot of players

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>when they're young, when they're up and coming, when maybe

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>they haven't fully formed into the players that they eventually become.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Is there some thing that you see in the ones

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>who really end up being special? Because I'm sure you

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of great ball strikers, a lot of

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>great ball strikers out there. Is there something different about

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.439
<v Speaker 1>the players who actually kind of rise to the top

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:19.280
<v Speaker 1>at the next level.

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 2>There is, and it's called it.

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>That coach Daryl Royal, that was our legendary football coach

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 3>who won three national championships is in the sixties and

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 3>seventies called it it. And when somebody would ask that,

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 3>they would say, what is it that makes someone.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.240
<v Speaker 2>So so special?

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 3>And coach Row would say he's got it, and then

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 3>that person would say, well, what is it? And he

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 3>would say, I don't know what it is, but he's

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 3>got And what that means is is that they are

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 3>just absolutely exceptional in certain things. But I think the

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 3>number one qualifying thing for them is that their minds

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 3>are not limited to what they might be able to do.

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 2>A lot of players are.

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Capable of winning the Masters, but your mind has to

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 3>say it's okay to win the Masters or the US

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Open and the British or the PGA. So there's probably

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 3>been many many players over the years that could have done.

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 2>It but didn't do it.

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 3>The reason they didn't do it was simply because their

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 3>mindset is, no, you're not that good. These guys they're

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>that good and they believe it. And how that got there,

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 3>have no idea, but they have it.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>That's such an interesting observation because it's not just confidence,

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like believing that you're good enough or that

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you deserve you truly deserve something. Absolutely well, Coach Fields,

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for your time. It's been a

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>really interesting conversation and best of luck in the tournament

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>this coming week.

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Garrett, God bless you and lookolm horns. We are thrilled

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 3>to be Omni La Costa. Our team is going to

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 3>rise to the occasion. We're gonna have a great time

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>and I hope you can come visitors sometimes.

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