1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news the single best idea. 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Shout out to Robin Wigglesworth. Bloomberg does a great job 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: as this as well, but Robin's the one at the 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: FT that sort of codified it, which is the comedy 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: act of keeping track of the annual outlooks. Here's the 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: way it works, folks, in the vicinity of October. If 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: you have the same marketing staff within investment research, you 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: go through the exitd you go to the ballet again, 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: and you have some meetings, and you get your outlook, 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: and you write a draft and fourteen people look at it. 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Usually et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Maybe it's a 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: PowerPoint virginny masin if today had a brilliant PowerPoint very 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: valuable from Alion's. And then you can have a seven 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: page outlook or dare I say a thirty seven page outlook. 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: The nightmare is when you get a new marketing team 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: on Wall Street, because they have to prove themselves, and 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: so in October the new marketing team at any given 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: firm is going mental about they got to have the 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: one investment outlook to be all and end all, and 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Robin over at the ft keeps track of like I 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: don't know twenty thirty forty of these outlooks is they 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: go into the new year and everyone knows, including the 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: entire Bloomberg surveillance team, they're useless. I mean, basically, I'll 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: be polite and say John Ferrell talks about the end 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: of March. Maybe you get to the end of February 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: and they seem ancient. What was written on December twentieth 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: to take a to pick a date as well. What 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: we try to do is move away from the outlooks 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: more to the discussion. We begin with Jeffrey Rosenberg of 30 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Black Rock here talking about the nuances of the yield 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: curve of if the two year moves, the ten year 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: might not. 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: You guys will remember the old greens band cut undrum. 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Right then he was raising rates, but long term rates 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: weren't going up. They were going down because back then 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: China was rebalancing, not rebouncing, reinvesting all of his trade 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: surpluses back into treasuries, and we couldn't understand why the 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: Fed couldn't control long term interest rates. So I've talked 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: about the possibility that we could see the new conundrum. 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: What's the new conundrum is here we're cutting interest rates 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: in the short end, but the long end isn't responding. 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened in August, right, we cut interest 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: rates fifty basis points, the long end went up. And 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: I think when you look into twenty twenty five, right, 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: we've taken down the amount of cuts that the Fed 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: is expected, but they're still expected to cut rates and 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: if they do, and this is what yesterday's inflation print 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: is kind of worrisome is we're kind of getting into 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: the consensus around this sticky inflation. Okay, so why are 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: they cutting next month not next month, next week? Because 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: they want to support the job market and the concerned 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: about the tightening. So they're showing their hand that there's 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of preference for the labor market over 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 2: the inflaew Okay, Well that's a problem for the rate 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: cutting cycle because you can cut the front end, but 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: the back end may be more worried about that sticky 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: inflation and worried about some of those longer term issues 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: around debt and deficits in the fiscal policy side. 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: An extended conversation with Jeffrey Rosenberg of Blackrock program note 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: for those of you listening to single Best Idea on 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: this Thursday tomorrow, Gene Munster and Dan ives together on 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: MAG seven. Really looking forward to that, and yes I 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: usually don't, but I'm going to you gotta focus on 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Tesla right now as a moonshot. We'll probably lead off 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: talking about Tesla with Munster and Eyes. We'll do that tomorrow. 66 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: On the equity markets, there's different characters, not of permables, 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: but bulls writing with a certain force, a certain intelligence, 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: and one of those clearly is Brian Belski of BEMO Capital. 69 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: He was on Fired Today intercourse. Deserves to be within 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: this great bull market. He talks about the factor. He's 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: not a big fan. He's looking at fundamental things like 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: earning's growth, free cash flow growth on momo momentum, Belski 73 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: of Bemo. 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: One of the things that quite frankly drives us crazy 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: is everyone talking about this momentum investing. But if you 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: go back to nineteen ninety in the US DOC market, 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: you look at rolling returns, the best five factors, which 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: your almost talk about factors are fundamental. Number one is 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: low price, but the rest of them are price to 80 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: free cash flow, enterprise. Valey toe, but earning's growth increasing 81 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: over the next three months, so I think we're returning 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: to that slowly, which again favors amazing assets here in 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: the United States, and that's why we're overweight technology, financials, 84 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: and consumer discretionary in a little bit in the communication 85 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: services area, especially considering those are the growth areas. But 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: really from a consistency of growth bases, Tommy, they're the 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: most consistent growers. 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Belski, they're calling me Tommy. I mean 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: my mother called me Tommy. 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