1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas, coming to. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: You, not the same, coming to you, different, coming to 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: you changed. Well, not me, not me, just Chris. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Is anybody else in a relationship like this where if 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: you and it's obviously guys, the woman dictates your facial hair. Yeah, 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and that's fine. I have no problem with that. But 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: like I spent the majority of my life very cleanly shaven. 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Obviously as you knew me on The Bachelor, Bacherette Paradise, 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: all those shows I hosted for so many years, I 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: was cleanly shaven. One time, during Winter Games, I had 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: scruff and it was and it broke the internet like that, 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: you would have thought I shook up the world. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: And so let me tell you something that I don't 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: mean in a mean way. Yeah, first time I found 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: you attractive. 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: That is when we did an interview. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: It's the first time we flirted. 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: That's true. 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: So don't deny the power of the scruff. So i've it, 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: But actually I don't remember doing that. People were responding 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: on the internet. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, so okay, So I've been cleanly shaven always. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. With the advent of HDTV high 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: definition camera, everything gets pixelated apart. I mean you can 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: see everything. I have a salt and pepper beard. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: It's not very incredibly sexy. I don't know why you're 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: saying it with that tone. I don't mind that a 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: negative connotation to it. 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm fifty two years old. I have gray hair on 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: my sideburns. I have gray and my beard. I have 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: no problem with it, but it doesn't look great sometimes 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: on television because it's just kind of splotchy, and it 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: doesn't look as uniform as say, back in the old 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: days when we were low definition, everything just kind of 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: blended together. So anyway, that's why I never really wore scruff. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: I have nothing against it, but it is funny now 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: that we think about it. I did Bachelor Winter Games. 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: He was freezing there in Vermont, and I said, you 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: know what, screw it, I'm gonna do something different. Let 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: my facial hair grow. And that is when Lauren Zema 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: came to Vermont and you interviewed me in that hotel 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: room and we were flirty. That's when you asked if 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: I was dating somebody first time. 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: We were just a little bit flirty. 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: You go, you asked me in that day. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: Listen, We've had this has been a debate for some time. 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: Here's the thing we I was only asking you if 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: you were dating someone, because truly someone, like at entertainment tonight, 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: we would have like different people would have different sources 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: and informants. And I don't know who it was, but 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: someone had told one of our newsdesk people that you 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: were dating someone. So they told me, Lauren, when you 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: go to these Winter Games interviews, you have to this. 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: It would be called a must ask. We had must 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: ask questions for different interviews. Oh really, yes, we had 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: to ask this part of our job. That's why I've 59 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: had to add ask a lot of uncomfortable questions over 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: the years that I didn't necessarily feel great about. 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: So I was on the must ask list. 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: It was a must ask that we had to ask. 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: I had to ask if you were dating someone. 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: And I had been not too long ago, but had. 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Been still our informant was right, they were. 66 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Probably right at the time, had but I was very single. 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: And what was interesting when you asked that question, I 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: felt like maybe we got a little flirty. 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: I think it were in the interview. Well, I've never 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: asked you this. Did it become a little like I 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: didn't feel it was flirting in that moment, but I 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: did feel your energy shift. Did your energy shift because 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: you thought I was flirting with you? Probably, I'm just 74 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: realizing that's what happened. 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I probably thought, okay. 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Thought I was hitting on you by asking that, by 77 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: doing my job. 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: By asking the must ask, and it was just a 79 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: must ask. 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: And this is these are the situations I was thrown 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: in as a journalist. It was not easy all the time, 82 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 83 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: But it wasn't. By the way, in no way was 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: I inappropriate. 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: In the no, no no. But that's that's what would happen. 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean, now I could go off on a whole 87 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: other tangent, but yeah, that was a struggle of the job. 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes you are asking these questions as yourself, right me, 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: as Lauren Zema. I'm not an actor playing a part. 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm having to be Lauren Zema. But I am in 91 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: some ways playing a part because I'm having to ask 92 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: questions that I would not normally ask as Lawrence. 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: And yet if you faceive questions, flash forward do Bachelor 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Paradise in our interview there. 95 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: Well, there, we actually florided for the first. 96 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: I was definitely flirting with you there. 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: It was confirmed. Okay, we're going off a tangent because 98 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: the real the reason we are here today is we 99 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: are opening up the playbook on facial hair, on why 100 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: women or anybody partners sometimes have a reaction when their 101 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: partner shaves, and who gets to make the call on 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: their partner's facial hair? What is okay do you? Let's 103 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: get right into a babe. So Chris has shaved. 104 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I was shooting something the other day and needed 105 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: to shave for it. At least I felt like I 106 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: needed to shave for it. 107 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because you know, we could really get 108 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: into the psyche cosis on this. Like you just said, 109 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: you've spent twenty years on Bachelor and Bachelorette unshaven. 110 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: So you were filmed a millionaire Miss America, everything I hosted. 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: I never had facial hair. 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: So you were filming something and you asked me what 113 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: you should do and I said, well, babe, do what 114 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: makes you feel most confident. And I do think that's 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: where you feel most confident. Now, why do you think 116 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: that is. Is it because you were clean shaven for 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: so long? Is it because you didn't love maybe years ago. 118 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: I think you've changed now, but you didn't love that 119 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: the beard was little gray. What is it? 120 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think it's just a habit. 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: It's just something I started doing the day, you know, 122 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I graduated and got a job on television in Oklahoma City. 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: I never I always shave. 124 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: So is it a little bit part of your armor? 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Like sometimes, like I used to say, I'm getting into character, 126 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'd go get go get dressed, and I'd 127 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: put on my suit and tie. I would shave totally 128 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: that part of my thing. 129 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: I think women understand that a lot. As much as 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to ever be defined by looks alone, 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: there's something about the armor of putting on makeup or 132 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: doing your hair, or putting on a certain outfit where 133 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: you feel confident and comfortable in a situation. 134 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's maybe maybe that this is 135 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: the old school side of me. It's a little sloppy 136 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: and a little disrespectful. 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: I totally was going to say that, I think it is. 138 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: You can be a little traditional, like Chris does not 139 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: like and this could be a whole other playbook a 140 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: week ago. 141 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: We can dabble in this too. Because this I am 142 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: firm on this. 143 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: He doesn't love when men wear baseball caps and nice restaurants. 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: He doesn't love it in church. And that's that old 145 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: school Texas part of you. 146 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't like it when people wear hats inside period you' 147 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: it's like part of an outfil I can ease up, 148 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: like you know, look you're wearing a cowboy hat or whatever. 149 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: There's certain times where it's part of your outfit. I 150 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: get it. And by the way, I'm talking about men, 151 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I am not talking about women. I think women are 152 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: exempt from all these rules. You can shave your face, 153 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: you cannot shave your hat. I don't care. But for men, 154 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I definitely, first of all, wearing a hat backwards zero. 155 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: Wearing a hat indoors, especially a baseball hat. No, take 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: it off. Immediately take it off. 157 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, let me ask a question that's going to 158 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: go to the oldest of the old schools. Yes, because 159 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: it's something I've also never understood about, like like different 160 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: literally schools will have this in their dress code about 161 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: hair and facial ironed beards. Our main man, Jesus long hair, 162 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: facial hair depicted in many of the drawings of him, Moses, 163 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: pretty good man, all all the all the old bros. 164 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: So why do we have an issue with beards? 165 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I feel like the razor has really come a long 166 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: way since before Christ. The BC razor was not great. 167 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: Now the bron Is really brought. 168 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: Us something, but it was okay for them, So why 169 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: is it considered unkempt. 170 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: I think it can look great. I think a nice 171 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: trimmed beard looks fantastic. Facial hair doesn't bother me. I 172 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's people look unkempt. I get it the beard. 173 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: The I've never been a mustache guy. Some people can 174 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: pull that. 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: I cannot picture you with a mustache. 176 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: No Travil Kelsey rocking the mustache right, and the mustache. 177 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: Has been coming back since the Top Gun sequel, and 178 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't. 179 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: Think it should really. I get that pilots have a mustache. 180 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Peter Webber and I talked about this years ago. They 181 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: because you can't have a beard, because if you put 182 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: on an oxygen mask in the cockpit, it has to 183 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: adhere to your face. The only thing you can have 184 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: is a mustache. So that's what Most pilots will just 185 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: have a mustache. 186 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: I've never kissed a man with a sizeable mustache. I 187 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: don't know what that's like someone who has Please DM me. 188 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm interested as Taylor Swift bab. 189 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: We don't know it's true. I don't know if they've kissed. 190 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: But this came up because Ai shaved and even our 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: producer kindle as I got. 192 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: On the Yes, Kennell, please tell us what your thought was. 193 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Chris gets on the zoom and you didn't know he'd shaved, 194 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: of course, and he has a clean face. Please give 195 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: us your reaction. 196 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Reenact what did you say today? 197 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: I mean I was like, you look a little bit different? 198 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: Did you shave? And yep, But it's a nice version 199 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: of it. 200 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Kendall. 201 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: I think I think when she texted me, I'm going 202 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: to call you out. She texted I was like, Chris, 203 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: what did you do to your face? You hate when 204 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: your boyfriend does it? Why do you hate it? 205 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Easton our other producer are It's just said I thought 206 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Chris had a filter on. 207 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting they only know you with the beard. 208 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: Seek is now post Bachelor, post TV life, You've. 209 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: Been clo so everybody can get a good look, and 210 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: you've cleanly shaven. 211 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: I am, you've been very bearded since they've known you. 212 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, you know, since we since I left 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: the show. I don't think I've been cleanly shaven since 214 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: I left the show. 215 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: And is that because I demanded? 216 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: That's because you like it and I haven't. I haven't 217 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: needed to shave. 218 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: Do you sometimes wish you could shave? Because I do 219 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: get upset if you shave? 220 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: I was. 221 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: I mean, if she gets there is a visceral reaction 222 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: in the other. 223 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm like the little kid. If you've ever seen those 224 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: viral videos where a baby like a dad shaves and 225 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: a baby's starts crying because I don't even recognize this person. 226 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Happens if I shave. Lauren will say, as if she's 227 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: trying to convince herself I still love you. I did, 228 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: he was, and I say, I still love you, And 229 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you convincing yourself that we are still 230 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: in love because I shave? 231 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: Okay, which by the way, is so horrible because I 232 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: then asked you, I said, what's the equivalent for you? 233 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: Because I had to tell you if you well, I 234 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: don't know if you told me. For example, if you said, 235 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: like if I said I'm thinking about cutting my hair 236 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: really short and you said, I don't know, I love 237 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: your long hair, I wouldn't be upset about that. I 238 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: would want to be attractive for you, and I would think, well, 239 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: I want to I want him to like her long hair. Yeah, 240 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: so that wouldn't bother me. 241 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: Hair is one of your powers. 242 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I would like it. I like that you 243 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: feel passionate about something about the way I look. 244 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Okay, but here's the bigger issue. Our wedding is coming up. 245 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: And so I asked Laura the other day, I said, Babe, 246 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: what when I'm standing in front of you, how do 247 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: you see me? Am? I shaved? Am? I you know, 248 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: because my instinct was to shave. You said scruff. 249 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's the thing. I don't need you 250 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: in a beard like sometimes it does get a little 251 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: too long, and I tell you shave it a little bit. 252 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: But I like, there's just something about other people. Please 253 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: weigh in and tell me there's something about a five 254 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: o'clock shadow, just a little scruff. 255 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: So for the wedding, I'm gonna have a little little scruff. 256 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: It's sexy. Kendall, you said you also don't like it 257 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: when your boyfriend shaves. Helped me out. Give me another opinion. 258 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: What is it? Why do we have an issue and 259 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: why do we like the facial hair? I honestly have 260 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: no idea. I always tell my boyfriend like, he looks 261 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: like an infant when he shaves, and I'm like, there's 262 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: just something about the scruff. It just makes you way 263 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: more attractive, and then when you shave, it kind of 264 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: brings you down a couple points. I have said this before. 265 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: I don't know a guy unless he has an issue 266 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: where he like, like, okay, I'm gonna call him out. 267 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: Ben Higgins struggles to grow a full beard. 268 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why it'd be like Wells. Wells is 269 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: another one who just doesn't grow facial hair, so he doesn't. 270 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: But if you're able, yes, but if you're able, I 271 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: so just called him out. Sorry, guys, we love you 272 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: and they both look great without beards. But if you're 273 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: able to grow a nice beard, scruff like, it's full, 274 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: it's not patchy, I don't know any guy who doesn't 275 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: look better with it. Interesting, Like I'm trying to think, 276 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe. 277 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: We could call this the Yellowstone effect, the cole Houser, 278 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, the strong scruff. 279 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what effect it is. I mean, I 280 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: was into it long before. I go back to sometimes 281 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: I do think, I mean, we should really get an 282 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: expert in on this, because I would imagine maybe there's 283 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: something biological. Is there something in us that's like, like, 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: does testosterone grow beards and that makes you physically attracted? 285 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. But I also go back to the 286 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: first crush thing. I swear my first crush was Harrison 287 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: Ford playing Indiana Jones, and I think I take everything 288 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: back to that. It's like that TikTok trend when you 289 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: were people were supposed to put their current partner and 290 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: their first crush side by side, and so many people 291 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: looked like their first crush, Like, I think I've just 292 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: been trying to morph you into Harrison Ford is Indiana Jonees. 293 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: So Easton, our other producer, says his wife hates facial hair. 294 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: Really but wait, can Easton talk Easton? Can you weigh in? 295 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: Of course you can, Easton, she hates any facial hair. 296 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have like a brillo pad growing out of 297 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: my jaw, though it's really wiry. 298 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: It's really coarse. 299 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at it now. It's it's pretty solid though. 300 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I shave. 301 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: Once a week. That's my that's my move. And you 302 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: know what I do. I go in the backyard. I 303 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 3: do it outside. 304 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do it outside as well. 305 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: Oh I thought it was crazy for doing it, but 306 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: thank you for validating me. 307 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: I so, I have a tremor and I go outside 308 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: because at that point it's just it gets there's so 309 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: much hair and I don't want to go in down 310 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: the drain. 311 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: Wait. I want to applaud both of you because I 312 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: know a lot of women who get so annoyed with 313 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 2: their partner when he shaves, because I mean, we're stereotyping here, 314 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: but of course the typical straight dude doesn't really clean 315 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: up all that hair all that well, and it's so annoying. 316 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: So thank you both. You're doing the polite thing and 317 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: going outside. 318 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: So easton you walk, you walk out naked in your 319 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: backyard as well. 320 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: Okay, I do it in my underpants, and it took 321 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: me many years before I realize the neighbors can definitely 322 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: see and they just seem totally. 323 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: You're like a mountain man. 324 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: Oh, So for your wife, though, it's a texture thing. 325 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Is that any Yes, it's a texture thing, and I 326 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: think it's a I think she likes how it looks 327 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: kind of, but mostly she'd rather just be clean shaven 328 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: all the time. 329 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: So we just touched another chord. We got to bring 330 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Kendall back in Kendall. Your boyfriend shaves over the sink 331 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: every time. 332 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, it's disgusting and I know, yeah, no, 333 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: it looks like it's disgusting. Tell him to learn from 334 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: these gents. 335 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: Go outside, get outside, get outside. I mean, some people 336 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: live in an apartment complex might be a little harder. 337 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: You throw on your basketball shorts and go up. Do 338 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: it over the balcony exactly. Oh god, I'm over the balcony. 339 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: Someone's walking down below. 340 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: It is funny how we have such strong opinions about this, 341 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: about changing. 342 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, but let but you know what, I just this 343 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: just hit me. It's your face though, I mean, it's 344 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: your partner's face. It's like the thing you you lock 345 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: eyes with and you're more attracted to than anything, and 346 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: and you're kissing it and you're like, I mean, it's 347 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: it's kind of everything. 348 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't like the disappointment that I 349 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: see in your your face and you're hearing your voice. 350 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: When he was shaving yesterday, he was shaving outside and 351 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: it's in this sort of like courtyard area that we have, 352 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: and I was at another window and I was I 353 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: banging my fists on the window like in streetcase street 354 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Car named Desire, when he's just like Stella or No, 355 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: the graduate, which it's like banging. 356 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: That's what it was last. 357 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: That's funny. 358 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: No, but I also have the same reaction. And guys, 359 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: please weigh in. But when Chris gets a haircut, because 360 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: we were talking about this for the wedding, you gotta 361 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: time that haircut right, because a too fresh haircut on 362 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: a guy not so much like if with long haired 363 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: women you don't notice it so much, But a too 364 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: fresh haircut on a guy before a big moment, it 365 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: can look a little silly. 366 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: You can look like a little boy. 367 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: It's got to be a little grown out. I think 368 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: got Kendall Easton, what do you think? 369 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you gotta get you gotta give it a week. 370 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: At least a week. Yeah. 371 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: I got kind of a bad haircut before my wedding, 372 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: and I had to get some touch ups like the 373 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: day before. I know, man, that was rough, but I 374 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: think I pulled it off. 375 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: Oh that was that like a major anxiety moment. 376 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it was big time. 377 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: What did you go to someone new? What happened? 378 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: I did? I did? 379 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: Oh No, I went to someone new and I went 380 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: to like one of those cool guys, you know, the 381 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: guys that like give you the beer and yeah you know. 382 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: And I did not like how it turned out, and 383 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: so I went to this woman my wife knows, and 384 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: I've been going to her ever since. 385 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: She fixed it for me, save me. Yes, that is 386 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: a that's a big no. I've had a lot of 387 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: anxiety thinking about when I will get my haircut for 388 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: the wedding leading up to it, so I have a 389 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: good week week and a half for it to grow 390 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: in so it doesn't look so fresh. 391 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of these big like I 392 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: would say my equivalent would be highlighting. Like one time 393 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: I went and got a toner done on my hair 394 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: because I thought, oh, I'm going to be fresh, Oh 395 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: to go cover the Royal wedding, Harry and Meghan's wedding. 396 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: So it's the night before I'm leaving and I got 397 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: this toner done on it, and it made my hair 398 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: look horrible. It took all the dimension and color out 399 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: of it. And so but at that point I didn't 400 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: even I don't even think. I went back to the 401 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 2: same person. I called somebody else who done my hair 402 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: before and said, please come save me. 403 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 1: So what's our takeaway on this? 404 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Yikes? I mean, my my gut instinct is never shave. 405 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: No, that's my instinct. Here's the thing. In the long run, 406 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: you are the person I most want to please. You 407 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: are the person I see the most in my life. 408 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: And if it's not such a big deal, which by 409 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: the way, shaving is kind of not shaving, it's kind 410 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: of wonderful. It's great. 411 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: Like I want to make you feel good about yourself, though, 412 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: because I want you to feel good, and I am 413 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: asking you this very belatedly, as we're two years into 414 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: you're not shaving. 415 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: I hate to admit this. I've now had scruffed so 416 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: long that when I shaved and I saw myself the 417 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: other day in the mirror, it didn't look like me 418 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: as much interesting. I looked just like it just looks 419 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: very different. As as Easton said, it looked like I 420 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: had a filter on Wow. So the Scruff is coming back. 421 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so I've beaten you into liking it. 422 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: The big, the big, the big twist will be when 423 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: we come back and we're doing television again, will I 424 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: have the Scruff? 425 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: Everyone? Please weigh in. I am going to put a 426 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: poll on my Instagram for everybody to weigh in on 427 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: whether they like you as Scruff or not. 428 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: Reach out to at Lauren z Ema. You can find 429 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: me at Chris B. Harrison of course at the Most 430 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: Dramatic Pod Ever. 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