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Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, September twelfth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: episode number twenty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 6: The Break. We're a lot from s WBC Mortgage Studios
Speaker 6: at the Star. Amber's not joining us today, but we
Speaker 6: got the other three guys, the three of us in studio.
Speaker 2: We'll have lots to talk about today.
Speaker 6: We're going to do a little stroll around the NFL
Speaker 6: and the NFC East particularly. We got some player evaluations
Speaker 6: that we didn't get to yesterday of a few players
Speaker 6: that had some games, some good games, some that we
Speaker 6: probably will talk a little bit about that maybe you
Speaker 6: want to see a little bit more from. We'll talk
Speaker 6: about that in the second segment, and of course in
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Speaker 6: in the third segment. So let's get this thing rolling.
Speaker 6: Let's first talk about the NFL and a story that
Speaker 6: that really has transcended football to some degree. I got
Speaker 6: a notice from I got a little push notification from CNN,
Speaker 6: and my wife said at the same time she was
Speaker 6: getting a push notification from TMZ.
Speaker 2: Tells you a lot about our worlds, right, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what.
Speaker 6: And they were all talking about Aaron Rodgers being gone.
Speaker 6: He's gone with an achilles injury. I'll throw up to
Speaker 6: you guys to get your opinions, but I'll just say,
Speaker 6: first of all, last night, I would assume I'm not
Speaker 6: the only one that just felt almost like a gut punch.
Speaker 2: Even though you're not a Jets fan.
Speaker 6: You kind of wanted to see how this thing was
Speaker 6: gonna play out, and certainly didn't want to four plays
Speaker 6: into the season figure out that he's not going to
Speaker 6: be there anymore.
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the I thought that Robert Sala postgame handled it
Speaker 7: very well when you listen to his comments. My experience
Speaker 7: working in this league, and you know, Patrick, you're new
Speaker 7: to being in the NFL, but Derek, you know you've
Speaker 7: been here a long time as well. The thing is,
Speaker 7: nobody feels sorry for you, have no doubt about it,
Speaker 7: you know. And nobody feels sorry for you. You know when
Speaker 7: when when injuries like this happened, you know, it's and
Speaker 7: and and I think Robert Sala sent the right message
Speaker 7: to his team, you know, don't feel sorry for me,
Speaker 7: don't feel sorry for this team, feel sorry.
Speaker 8: For Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we could all feel that way. But in
Speaker 7: the NFL you look at it and you go, well,
Speaker 7: that's an injury. You know, we've we've been so conditioned
Speaker 7: to Jason Garrett's next man up philosophy. And but that's
Speaker 7: that's how you have to live in the National Football League,
Speaker 7: you know. There there's sure they they moved on, you know,
Speaker 7: if you they moved on from Zack Wilson, you know
Speaker 7: they picked Zack Wilson second.
Speaker 8: Overall, that's the thing they have to repair. Now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they have to fix Aaron Rodgers, but they have
Speaker 7: to fix Zach Wilson here.
Speaker 8: So if you're the Jets, that should be your focus.
Speaker 7: But I'm looking at it like, you know what, that's
Speaker 7: it's part of what we want.
Speaker 8: That's what we deal with here in the NFL.
Speaker 7: That's you know, when you when you sit in those chairs,
Speaker 7: you know there's a potential that you might not walk
Speaker 7: out of this hole with your football team. And now
Speaker 7: the Jets, and they've got a good team. The Jets
Speaker 7: have got some skill guys. We'll talk about that this week.
Speaker 7: This will be a difficult game for the Cowboys. But
Speaker 7: this is also the side of me. It's like, you
Speaker 7: know what, now you're really going to see what the
Speaker 7: New York Jets are all about. Can they withstand a
Speaker 7: massive loss.
Speaker 8: To their team and be able to and to be
Speaker 8: better for it. We'll see.
Speaker 9: It's it's one of those situations where you know, I mean,
Speaker 9: I've been covering the NFL for about ten years and
Speaker 9: I've been an NFL fan all my life, and you know,
Speaker 9: I harken back to my childhood and you see players
Speaker 9: like Joe Montana go to Kansas City. Then you fast
Speaker 9: forward and you see, you know, Brett fav go to
Speaker 9: the Jets, Tom Brady go to Tampa Bay, and now
Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers go to New York. Whenever you have those
Speaker 9: future first ballot Hall of famers, make those changes, and
Speaker 9: we'll stick to quarterback because you couldalk about mm Smith,
Speaker 9: but that's PTSD.
Speaker 4: We don't want to do that.
Speaker 9: But when you talk about these future first ballot Hall
Speaker 9: of Fame quarterbacks making these changes and all of the
Speaker 9: pomp and circumstance and hype that builds up to it,
Speaker 9: this arguably or maybe even without argument, was one of
Speaker 9: the more hyped up off seasons for this type of
Speaker 9: change in the NFL. So then we only get four
Speaker 9: snaps of Aaron Rodgers. He was pressured on two of them.
Speaker 9: It was almost two sacks. The one that was a
Speaker 9: sack by Leon Floyd unfortunately ended his season, which then
Speaker 9: brings question marks on did it end his career. We'll see,
Speaker 9: you know what the future holds for Aaron Rodgers. But
Speaker 9: I'm with Brian one hundred percent from inside the locker room.
Speaker 9: You can't feel sorry for yourself as a team. You
Speaker 9: can't get down on yourself. So credit to the Jets
Speaker 9: defense for stepping up and continuing to play. Credit to
Speaker 9: Zach Wilson for stepping in and at least not giving
Speaker 9: the game away. He had the touchdown to Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 9: But that's all that all goes to the leadership of
Speaker 9: Robert Salad, who's just a magnificent leader of men. But
Speaker 9: you think about it also from the capacity of a fan,
Speaker 9: and you really have to feel like all the air
Speaker 9: went out of the room if you were a Jets fan.
Speaker 9: And granted, the Cowboys are going to go up against
Speaker 9: the Jets and you have that friendly banter competition things
Speaker 9: of that nature. But I find it difficult to not
Speaker 9: feel badly for the Jets fans because they've been waiting
Speaker 9: so long. You're talking about the Cowboys, but the Cowboys
Speaker 9: have five rings, and yeah, we're waiting for the draft end,
Speaker 9: but we've at least a lot of us have at
Speaker 9: least felt that the Jets Joe Namath, I mean.
Speaker 8: How six years old when that happens.
Speaker 2: So this you're sixers.
Speaker 9: So this as a Jets fan, it's devastating. It's crushing,
Speaker 9: bittersweet evening. They were able to finish it on a
Speaker 9: high note, but to get the confirmation this morning and
Speaker 9: to see it happen in real time, I mean, you
Speaker 9: had to feel like your chest got I mean your
Speaker 9: heart got ripped out of your chest.
Speaker 6: For those Jets fans, it's interesting because as someone who
Speaker 6: wants to see the Cowboys do well. When he first
Speaker 6: went down, I'm like, high ankle spring I'll take a
Speaker 6: high ankle sprain just so we don't have to play him.
Speaker 2: But I didn't want him to be down.
Speaker 6: I wanted him to play this season because I mean,
Speaker 6: as a football fan, you want to watch the best
Speaker 6: players play, right, And so that's the part that's always
Speaker 6: just hardening this time of the year, particularly, is when
Speaker 6: you see really great players on any team go down
Speaker 6: for your own selfish reasons for whatever team you're rooting for.
Speaker 6: You kind of like, well, we don't have to face them,
Speaker 6: but the same time as football.
Speaker 9: But then also here it comes to asterisks. The Cowboys
Speaker 9: do what we expect him to do on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 9: Now it's like, oh, it was against Wilson versus Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9: I go back to the same thing I felt going
Speaker 9: against Tom Brady going into the Wildcard game last year.
Speaker 9: I want to play these guys because I want to
Speaker 9: exercise these demons. And that's another gut punch for me
Speaker 9: because I wanted to see Aaron Rodgers. I feel like
Speaker 9: this defense and even this offense was primed to finally
Speaker 9: get over that Aaron Rodgers home and we kind of
Speaker 9: got robbed of it.
Speaker 7: Well, I think that if we could all go back
Speaker 7: and remember how we felt this time last year when
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott true was dealing. We were trying to figure
Speaker 7: out did he break his thumb, did he break his hand?
Speaker 8: What happens here? You know?
Speaker 7: And and now you're thinking, okay, here's Cincinnati and Joe
Speaker 7: Burrow coming to town in week two and you're thinking like, okay, ie, yeah,
Speaker 7: I guarantee you there were people. There were people, and
Speaker 7: you're right, in my timeline, there were people that were.
Speaker 8: This season's over. Yeah, this season's over.
Speaker 7: And but you know, look what happened. Look how well
Speaker 7: the defense picked things up? How will Cooper Rush played?
Speaker 7: You know, it's as an NFL fan, you should still
Speaker 7: have hope. You should still if your team is good enough,
Speaker 7: and what we saw last night with the Jets, they're
Speaker 7: good enough. You know that the team you might feel
Speaker 7: sorry for if you're into drafting is the Green Bay
Speaker 7: Packers because the Green Bay Packers were thinking they were
Speaker 7: gonna get a first round pick from Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 7: now they get a second round pick. So you know,
Speaker 7: with him not playing more than seventy percent of the games.
Speaker 7: So as a Packer fan in the Packer organization, you're
Speaker 7: probably damn you're doing that.
Speaker 8: But as as a whole, I think the Jets.
Speaker 7: I think the Jets could be very similar to what
Speaker 7: the Cowboys were last year. You know, if they'll figure
Speaker 7: out a way to run the football, play within what
Speaker 7: they can do with you know, with their quarterback with
Speaker 7: Zach Wilson, and their defense will find a way to shine.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think the worst thing the Cowboys can do at
Speaker 6: this point is to underestimate the Jets. No, not at all,
Speaker 6: a way too talented. You do not want to underestimated
Speaker 6: the defense team that has a great defense, because defense,
Speaker 6: as we know it's it's said all the time, but
Speaker 6: it really is true. Defense does win championships. If you
Speaker 6: have a great defense, you can be in every single
Speaker 6: game and all it takes is to play here, play there,
Speaker 6: and you can win that game.
Speaker 8: As we saw that well you saw Buffalo last night
Speaker 8: just turned the ball over.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and that ultimately led to the end
Speaker 7: of the end of their their opportunity to win the game.
Speaker 7: You know, with this, but that's what the Jets do.
Speaker 7: The Jets, you know, we'll get into them more this week.
Speaker 7: But they they create opportunities and they will continue to
Speaker 7: find ways. And I think maybe the one thing for
Speaker 7: Zach Wilson him working this summer with Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers at one time wasn't.
Speaker 8: The most touchy feely guy.
Speaker 7: He's not the you know, he wasn't, but he he
Speaker 7: really did embrace Zack Wilson. And maybe you Zach Wilson
Speaker 7: learned some things along the way here, you know, and
Speaker 7: maybe his teammates will. But there's there's going to have
Speaker 7: to be some repair in the Jets organization when it
Speaker 7: comes to Zach Wilson.
Speaker 8: You know, they they they did.
Speaker 7: They basically said, hey, we're going to go get Aaron
Speaker 7: Rodgers and he is going to be our quarterback. So
Speaker 7: now it's a little bit about okay, well, you know,
Speaker 7: here we are and Zach Wilson, I'm sure he's better
Speaker 7: prepared now than it was, you know, if he was
Speaker 7: going to be the starter.
Speaker 9: And I believe that to be the case as well.
Speaker 9: And we'll get into more of the Jets this week.
Speaker 9: But I was asked this morning on the fan, will
Speaker 9: the Cowboys overlook the Jets now? And I don't believe
Speaker 9: that's going to because that's not the culture in the
Speaker 9: locker room. But I will also say for any fan
Speaker 9: that wants to suddenly overlook Zach Wilson and the Jets,
Speaker 9: inclusive of their defense, go back and look at last
Speaker 9: night's game, because Buffalo felt like once they knocked Rogers
Speaker 9: out of the game, oh, the game was in the
Speaker 9: bag at that point if you're Buffalo, because your defensive
Speaker 9: front had been dominating their offensive line so forth, and
Speaker 9: so then what happens Josh Allen One take one giveaway,
Speaker 9: There's another giveaway. Here's another giveaway, here's another giveaway. Four
Speaker 9: giveaways on the night ends up being in overtime because
Speaker 9: you got stuck at thirteen points, you had the Muster sixteen,
Speaker 9: which was the field goal that got you there, and
Speaker 9: then you lose on the walk off return for the touchdown.
Speaker 4: So any fan.
Speaker 9: That's overlooking this Jets team needs to look no further
Speaker 9: than the psychology that the Buffalo Bills had when Aaron
Speaker 9: Rodgers won out and what happened after that. So, as
Speaker 9: a fan, think of it from that capacity as someone
Speaker 9: who's walking around this building with these players in these coaches.
Speaker 9: One hundred guarantee you they're not overlooking anybody.
Speaker 6: Let's slip the conversation to the NFC East Cowboys tied
Speaker 6: with Philadelphia and Washington at one to zero top of
Speaker 6: the division. Both Philly and Washington won this last weekend,
Speaker 6: although Philly did try to give that game.
Speaker 7: Away twice twice and Bill Belli just could not come
Speaker 7: from the Patriots, and Bill Belichick allowed it to happen,
Speaker 7: which is surprising, you know, to me.
Speaker 8: He went for it.
Speaker 7: There was three opportunities that the Patriots had to get points,
Speaker 7: and to give the Eagles defense a lot of credit
Speaker 7: on the final three, the drive that they stopped him
Speaker 7: on fourth down that turned the ball over New England
Speaker 7: could have kicked the field goal there, could have taken
Speaker 7: the points and then found away with timeouts and time left,
Speaker 7: could have found a way to play defense, and ultimately,
Speaker 7: you know it, they they got the ball back twice,
Speaker 7: you know, Nick Sirianni gave it to him one time.
Speaker 7: Could have punted the ball and Mac Jones is not
Speaker 7: going to drive the ball the link to the field
Speaker 7: to get points.
Speaker 8: That's just not going to happen. So yeah, but give
Speaker 8: the Eagles credit.
Speaker 7: They made two, well, actually three really good stops to
Speaker 7: win that football game, and.
Speaker 9: The Patriots they should have if they capitalized on that
Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts fumble, It's likely a different outcome of that game.
Speaker 9: I mean, and dan quinn talks about it all the time,
Speaker 9: like McCarthy talks about it all the time. There's one
Speaker 9: it's one thing to take the ball away, which is
Speaker 9: a huge plus, but what happens what do.
Speaker 4: You do with that takeaway after that?
Speaker 9: Is it a defensive touchdown or does the offense go
Speaker 9: down and make get points off of that? The Patriots
Speaker 9: ended up not getting anything out of that, and ultimately
Speaker 9: it came back to buy them in the end. But
Speaker 9: I mean it was Jalen Hurts didn't light up the
Speaker 9: scoreboard and he had the fumble that was lost in.
Speaker 9: I mean, you look at gain well fifty four yards rushing,
Speaker 9: which was the leader of the team, Anthony Brown and
Speaker 9: DeVante Smith. They had pretty solid games seventy nine and
Speaker 9: forty seven yards received and respectively, but only one receiving
Speaker 9: touchdown between the two of them. So it was a
Speaker 9: game that Patriots could have won. And you look at
Speaker 9: the Eagles and this is who you're gonna go up
Speaker 9: against as far as trying to take the NFC East crown.
Speaker 9: If you measure the Eagles output or what the Eagles
Speaker 9: put on film against the Patriots versus what the Cowboys
Speaker 9: put on film against the Giants, you could rightfully lean
Speaker 9: right now this scale is good. I mean it's gonna
Speaker 9: tip up and down as the season goes on, but
Speaker 9: right now edge to the Cowboys. Just in comparing film
Speaker 9: to film, you.
Speaker 6: Look at the Giants, the only team in the division
Speaker 6: to lose, and lose in grand fashion. Might I say,
Speaker 6: at the hands of the Cowboys. That being said, are
Speaker 6: the Giants as bad as what we saw they are
Speaker 6: the night?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so either. Go ahead, Patrick, you
Speaker 8: got it.
Speaker 4: No, I was gonna say absolutely not.
Speaker 9: Hashtag keep that energy is one of my main things
Speaker 9: if we're going into this game constantly saying this New
Speaker 9: York Giants team is not a pushover in this dayble era.
Speaker 9: They've shown competitiveness, They've shown they can go out there
Speaker 9: and beat anyone you line up against, line them up against.
Speaker 9: But then they get basically molly wopped by the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: Now suddenly we're going to say, oh, well, they were
Speaker 9: never good in the first place.
Speaker 4: That's just not accurate assessment.
Speaker 9: What the correct thing to say it will be is
Speaker 9: that the Cowboys were just that dominant, They were just
Speaker 9: that elite. The defense was simply that special on that
Speaker 9: particular evening, and the Giants had no answers for it,
Speaker 9: so they shrunk more and.
Speaker 4: More as the game went along.
Speaker 9: I can guarantee you Da boll is going to get
Speaker 9: in that locker room, getting those meetia rooms, get on
Speaker 9: that practice field.
Speaker 4: You're not probably not going to see.
Speaker 9: The Giants get manhandled like that again at any point
Speaker 9: this year because this serves as their wake up call.
Speaker 9: But the Cowboys were the right team to serve that
Speaker 9: wake up call.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like that if they go and lose
Speaker 7: to Arizona this week, if they continue to have problems
Speaker 7: with their offensive line, you know, then you start to
Speaker 7: ask the questions. But yeah, there's some issues they have.
Speaker 7: You know, they really do struggle turning people over. They
Speaker 7: got really no pass rush. You know, there were questions
Speaker 7: about the Cowboys offensive line, especially inside with the doga.
Speaker 7: He answered that the questions there there were things that
Speaker 7: the Giants just could not take advantage of. You know,
Speaker 7: they did protect. They ran the ball initially well enough,
Speaker 7: then went completely away from it. So I think the
Speaker 7: Giants are gonna need to go back to trying to
Speaker 7: be and who they are. You know, They've got to
Speaker 7: realize until they get their offensive lines solidified or at
Speaker 7: least going in the better direction, they're gonna need to
Speaker 7: lean on Saquon Barkley running the ball and then sometimes
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones running the ball, you know, because if they're
Speaker 7: going to turn into just a team throwing the ball
Speaker 7: and they do have better skill people, they better find
Speaker 7: a way to protect. That is the biggest issue that
Speaker 7: the Giants have right now is their offensive line isn't
Speaker 7: good enough. But that's not a bad team by any means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 6: I think ultimately, to me, that was a bit of
Speaker 6: a coaching fail in that game because I think.
Speaker 2: They I don't know if they panicked.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they just got away from the
Speaker 6: run just because they felt like they needed to throw
Speaker 6: the ball or wanted to throw the ball. But to me,
Speaker 6: I think they what they showed in that first series
Speaker 6: and then to have I think it was two or
Speaker 6: three more series, well they didn't throw it.
Speaker 2: I mean they didn't run at all. They were just throwing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and a second series, the second series after after
Speaker 7: the block fuel goal, they go three and out and
Speaker 7: what do they do. They had a they had an incomplete,
Speaker 7: they had a PBu by je Ye Thomas, and then
Speaker 7: they had a sack by Michael Parsons and then that
Speaker 7: was that was the end of what we knew is
Speaker 7: the Giants offensive. Right, Yeah, they should have just said, okay, fine,
Speaker 7: we're down six nothing. Barkley for five, Barkley for six,
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones for seven.
Speaker 8: You know, I mean that's that's that's what they needed
Speaker 8: to get back to. And they lost. They lost their
Speaker 8: path on that.
Speaker 6: And once you go down two touchdowns to the Cowboys,
Speaker 6: I think it becomes.
Speaker 8: A very very you play right into their hands.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you look at the Minnesota game, I don't
Speaker 6: think Minnesota was a bad Venon was a good team
Speaker 6: last year, but they got into a situation where they
Speaker 6: fell down and they couldn't get back up because the
Speaker 6: defense that's right where they want you. So I think,
Speaker 6: you know, teams, if I'm a coach from an opposing
Speaker 6: opposing team, I don't care if I'm down two touchdowns
Speaker 6: I'm still running the ball. I'm gonna keep forcing the
Speaker 6: issue with the run to get myself back into the game,
Speaker 6: because if I'm going to get into just passing downs.
Speaker 8: You're going to lose a game.
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose if it turns out to get embarrassed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if it turns into a game where you constantly
Speaker 7: have to drop back and throw the ball against the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: you were going to find that you're going to probably
Speaker 7: lose that game.
Speaker 8: You're either maybe lose a quarterback.
Speaker 7: You're gonna maybe lose your quarterback, but you're probably and
Speaker 7: you could either you're probably even turn over the ball.
Speaker 8: That the way that these guys playing the second.
Speaker 9: This Cowboys defense to a ball constrictor. Okay, once they start,
Speaker 9: they'll wrap themselves around you and then it's you know,
Speaker 9: three point le, six point le. It gets tighter, You
Speaker 9: start to your breaths get a little bit quicker, not
Speaker 9: panic jet, but you're like, okay, what's going on? This
Speaker 9: is what happened with the Giants. And then all of
Speaker 9: a sudden there's more points and more points, and you
Speaker 9: can squeezes more and more.
Speaker 4: You can't breed.
Speaker 9: Suddenly it's twenty six to zero with you know, five
Speaker 9: minutes left to play in the first half, and now
Speaker 9: you're fighting for your life. They're choking you out, and
Speaker 9: they're choking you out. And then over the remaining course
Speaker 9: of the course of the remaining two and a half quarters,
Speaker 9: it's just constricted, constricted, constricted, and by the time you
Speaker 9: get to the top of the fourth quarter, they're they're dead.
Speaker 4: They're done.
Speaker 7: I think that's how the Jets are going to have
Speaker 7: to play the Cowboys. I think they're gonna have to
Speaker 7: find a way to when we we get to that
Speaker 7: the running aspect. But on the Cowboys, on the flip side,
Speaker 7: you've got to make that quarterback try and score points.
Speaker 7: You know, if you put pressure on him to have
Speaker 7: to score points. To Patrick's point, they're gonna get choked
Speaker 7: out on that because they're they're not going to be
Speaker 7: able to score a lot of points with that quarterback
Speaker 7: right now as is. But uh, but the Cowboys that
Speaker 7: that's gonna be the Really I think one of the
Speaker 7: keys is make the make the Jets have to play
Speaker 7: score for score with you and and I don't know
Speaker 7: if they can do that.
Speaker 6: All right, We're gonna take our first break we're gonna
Speaker 6: come back. We're gonna get to some player evaluations. The
Speaker 6: first time I'm gonna throw at you guys is gonna
Speaker 6: be Tyron Smith. I want to hear what you guys
Speaker 6: have to say about him and how he performed in
Speaker 6: this first game. We'll talk about when we come back. Dallas,
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Speaker 2: All right, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: out a name.
Speaker 6: In some instances, I may throw out multiple names because
Speaker 6: they kind of aren't groups of people. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 6: gonna throw out a name and then I want you
Speaker 6: guys to just riff a little bit, tell me what
Speaker 6: you saw. I assume you've had a chance to kind
Speaker 6: of digest and then watch the film and get an
Speaker 6: idea of these guys.
Speaker 2: But let's start first with Tyron Smith.
Speaker 7: Thoughts felt like the Tyron Smith played well in this game.
Speaker 7: I was really worried about the potential of him and
Speaker 7: Thibodeaux and Ojilari, you know, carrying him up the field.
Speaker 7: Maybe he's not as with the ankle. What's there gonna
Speaker 7: be some problems. No, the physicality was good, the set
Speaker 7: was good, the string he plays. A couple of times
Speaker 7: he got into space when they were able to get
Speaker 7: the ball to the edge. You know, he worked well
Speaker 7: inside with a Doga, you know, a Doga had his
Speaker 7: had moments where I thought he was really really good.
Speaker 7: So the left side, where you thought there might have
Speaker 7: been a little liability over there, really played a nice game.
Speaker 7: And I was expecting Thibodeaux to try and move Tyron
Speaker 7: a little bit, but Tyron wasn't having any of that.
Speaker 7: So it felt like a good start to his season.
Speaker 4: He definitely played some great football.
Speaker 9: And like Brian said, a lot of us were wondering
Speaker 9: not if he were he would play, because we were
Speaker 9: confident he would, but you know, was he operating on
Speaker 9: a bad wheel with that ankle sprain and going up
Speaker 9: against o Jaalai and Thibodeaux, how would he fare?
Speaker 4: And he fared extremely well.
Speaker 9: Sixty two pass blocking reps, zero pressures allowed for Tyron Smith.
Speaker 9: And that's in the passing game, which is just stellar football.
Speaker 9: And then you look at what he was able to
Speaker 9: do as far as effect the run game. Talk about
Speaker 9: Cavante Turpin off the left end, talk about Tony Pollard
Speaker 9: being able to operate on that side of the ball.
Speaker 9: So for me, Tyron Smith looked every bit. It prime
Speaker 9: Tyron Smith. And as long as he remains healthy, the
Speaker 9: Cowboys should feel fantastic at that left tackle position.
Speaker 2: They can get Tyler back, that's even better. Yeah, although
Speaker 2: a Doga, as you mentioned.
Speaker 8: No Adoga was you know Adoga.
Speaker 7: What I learned is Adoga is a better guard prospect
Speaker 7: than he is a tackle prospect. And I know there's
Speaker 7: a lot of people saying, well, you guys owe a
Speaker 7: doga an apology, No, we owe a Dooga? What we
Speaker 7: saw and in training camp he was not good on
Speaker 7: that as an offensive tackle, and the Cowboys felt like, Okay, well, wait,
Speaker 7: who are we going to put a guard?
Speaker 8: Well, let's put a dogat guard.
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones talked about it in the pregame show and
Speaker 7: and Mike McCarthy did it with us at one oh
Speaker 7: five three the fan before the game, about the versatility
Speaker 7: of some of his offensive linemen. The Cowboys always believe
Speaker 7: in to be able to cross train and if a
Speaker 7: guy could play tackle, he could play guard, maybe he
Speaker 7: can play center. So you know, those are the kinds
Speaker 7: of things that you need to see. He obviously, to me,
Speaker 7: is a better guard than he is a tackle.
Speaker 8: Prospect.
Speaker 9: Le bro say, I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 9: you are what you show, And in training camp he
Speaker 9: didn't show was much of anything. And then he had
Speaker 9: the injury lating training camp. But we said on the
Speaker 9: same panel and we said that we hope he goes
Speaker 9: out and he shows something different right against the Giants,
Speaker 9: and guess what he did in the next morning.
Speaker 4: We made sure we give him his roses.
Speaker 2: So next name Layton Vandersh.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I liked watching Layton Vanderresh play
Speaker 7: in this game because to me, what when the confidence
Speaker 7: that he plays with and you could tell the guys
Speaker 7: around him play with the confidence. I felt like that
Speaker 7: Vandersh the way he's able to get to the ball,
Speaker 7: the way he's able to play and help and coverage.
Speaker 7: You know, you watch him and with the with the
Speaker 7: way the pressure was, the drops and things like that.
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones's eye level was down anyway he was looking
Speaker 7: at the rush. But with Vandersh, I didn't feel like
Speaker 7: there was any gaps or anything like that. The cross
Speaker 7: and stuff they handled, anything that was dealt in the
Speaker 7: middle of the field, anything in the running game. He
Speaker 7: stepped up the first series I thought. I felt like
Speaker 7: that that the scheme wise, the Giants had done some
Speaker 7: things to them. Came off the ball a little bit better,
Speaker 7: got into those guys a little bit more than probably
Speaker 7: that they were ready for.
Speaker 8: But as a game, wore.
Speaker 7: On Layton did a better job of playing with his hands,
Speaker 7: getting off blocks and then getting to where he needed
Speaker 7: to be.
Speaker 9: I love what I saw from Lve. He was my
Speaker 9: marque matchup against Saquon Barkley. Going into this game, I
Speaker 9: said that he was going to be paramount, he and
Speaker 9: DeMont Clark and playing sideline the sideline and containing Saquon.
Speaker 4: Barkley, and he helped do just that.
Speaker 9: And he finished the night with, you know, six meaningful tackles,
Speaker 9: because not every tackle is meaningful, but all of his
Speaker 9: were third most on the team, behind only jay Ron
Speaker 9: Curse and Marquise Bell. The safety unit had themselves a
Speaker 9: day as well. But what I also saw from Layton
Speaker 9: Vandersch was versatility, because this is something that I pointed
Speaker 9: out over the course of OTA's mini camp and training camp.
Speaker 9: At one point, dan Quinn deployed a scheme that had
Speaker 9: Michael Parsons at zero tech and you had LV rushing
Speaker 9: off the edge. Now that play almost worked if not
Speaker 9: for Jones's mobility breaking contained on his left side, which
Speaker 9: is the Cowboys right side. But you saw Layton van
Speaker 9: Dersh flying all over the field. You saw his versatility.
Speaker 9: I love what he put on film this past Sunday.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One thing to note that you were talking about the
Speaker 6: what they did in that first series. Jerry talked about
Speaker 6: it this morning on his radio show and said he
Speaker 6: thinks that they actually got taken off guard a little bit.
Speaker 2: It is they used some different blockings scheme.
Speaker 6: Maybe that's what they'd showed shown before on tape, and
Speaker 6: but they made an adjustments and uh, and I do
Speaker 6: think that the Giants went away from the run. I
Speaker 6: also think the Cowboys made some adjustments. You can buy
Speaker 6: those two things, and it worked out well for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Right constrictor yeah, all right?
Speaker 2: Next name.
Speaker 6: Actually this is a guy that played a little bit
Speaker 6: more than we've been used to seeing him play, particularly
Speaker 6: on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 8: You know what.
Speaker 7: It goes back to OTAs in mini camps where you
Speaker 7: saw him get more opportunity. And I don't know if
Speaker 7: that had to do with some of the injuries or
Speaker 7: some of the what was going on in OTA's with
Speaker 7: the wide receivers, or they were just holding guys out,
Speaker 7: but you did actually see him in some of the
Speaker 7: scheme packages. And you know, good for the Cowboys the
Speaker 7: offensive staff for trying to figure out ways to get
Speaker 7: their players on the field and would terping, uh the
Speaker 7: you know one of the ones.
Speaker 8: Uh, it was a little bit Uh.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't call it shocking, but to have him line
Speaker 7: up as a single back and then hand him the football, Uh,
Speaker 7: and you know, and trying to attack that way. I
Speaker 7: think showed some creativity on the offensive staff. But this
Speaker 7: is something that when you watch him play, you see
Speaker 7: that ability to make people.
Speaker 8: Miss the wiggle. Uh you know.
Speaker 7: Sometimes he'll run to darkness, which is crazy. He'll like
Speaker 7: like he'll like he'll find right into somebody.
Speaker 8: But but but.
Speaker 7: Over running faster than you really Yeah, but it's like
Speaker 7: he's going well, that's the thing about it. I always
Speaker 7: get equated to, like, if you've ever seen a dovermin run,
Speaker 7: it's front legs go over here and back legs go
Speaker 7: over here. And Turpin's a little bit like that. But
Speaker 7: what you saw from him is the creativity to get
Speaker 7: him involved in the game, not only throw him the football,
Speaker 7: but hand into football. Just the quick, just initial burst
Speaker 7: to try and get okay, let's get maybe you get
Speaker 7: five six seven yard cards before the defense really has
Speaker 7: a chance to react.
Speaker 8: I like the versatility. I like how they used him
Speaker 8: in this past game.
Speaker 9: Now, if you look at last season, Turpin comes in
Speaker 9: off of an MVP season with the USFL, jumps right
Speaker 9: in the Cowboys training camp, and then on top of that,
Speaker 9: the Cowboys did show the willingness to utilize him on
Speaker 9: offense in training camp before saying, you know what, regular season,
Speaker 9: you're an ace returner and we're not using Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 9: as a returner anymore rightfully, so we have to protect
Speaker 9: you and workload management again coming off of that USFL season,
Speaker 9: now fresh rested, battery, fully recharged, and credit to Cavante
Speaker 9: Turpin because I asked Mike McCarthy, you know what would
Speaker 9: be the difference outside of the workload management that could
Speaker 9: help Cavante Turpin be utilized in this offense this year.
Speaker 9: He said he has to dive into the playbook, has
Speaker 9: to dive into the playbook. That's exactly what Cavanta has
Speaker 9: done over these past several weeks, several months, and now
Speaker 9: he's he has the coaching staff confident in the fact
Speaker 9: that he understands his assignments and his reads and things
Speaker 9: like that. So then you see week one, they wasted
Speaker 9: no time getting Cavante. We were all wondering, what does
Speaker 9: duce Vaughn look like in week one? How many reps
Speaker 9: will he get, how many touches will he get? Well,
Speaker 9: Cavante Turpin has shown that in that head to head
Speaker 9: battle to be that that change of pace back so
Speaker 9: to speak, with duce Vaughan. He has to lead three
Speaker 9: carries fourteen yards, four point seven yards per carry, one touchdown.
Speaker 9: That's good stuff. On three targets he caught two of
Speaker 9: them eleven yards. That's five and a half per carry
Speaker 9: up per catch. Great start. So let's see how the
Speaker 9: Cowboys start to mix him in more and how they
Speaker 9: bounced that with duce Von. But from a Cavante Turpin standpoint,
Speaker 9: and anyone who wanted to see him involved in the offense,
Speaker 9: you got to love what that start looked like.
Speaker 8: Hold on to that ball, bro, Yeah, hold on to
Speaker 8: that ball, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know I started to think as I was
Speaker 6: watching them play and watching Cavanti Turpin be involved in
Speaker 6: the offense, I was just thinking to myself, I wonder
Speaker 6: what would happen three years ago if Michael McCarthy was
Speaker 6: coordinating the offense and you had a zeke that was
Speaker 6: doing the things that he was doing back then, and
Speaker 6: you got a guy like Pollard who would be the
Speaker 6: consummate gadget player, right, And it made me just because
Speaker 6: you know, the joke always was for all of us, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: we'll believe it when we see it that they'll get
Speaker 6: Pollered more involved doing more things than just you know,
Speaker 6: kind of being the backup to Zeke. I just wonder
Speaker 6: how much more he would have been involved in how
Speaker 6: they could have used him in this offense. Because I'm
Speaker 6: looking at Turpin, I'm like, they found a role for
Speaker 6: a guy that just has immense talent, and that's the key,
Speaker 6: Like you find the talent in your guys, you stuff.
Speaker 6: It's what dan Quinn is is so great at R.
Speaker 6: He finds what's your talent, and then I'm gonna exploit that.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna do all kinds of stuff to get
Speaker 6: you in your environment to do what you do best,
Speaker 6: and we're gonna work it all together to where the defense.
Speaker 4: Is just well.
Speaker 9: The Cowboys have been looking for a Lance Dunbar since
Speaker 9: Lance Dunbar, and especially being that Lance Dunbar didn't turn
Speaker 9: into what they wanted him to be, but they've been
Speaker 9: looking for that shifty, kind of gadgety guy, and maybe
Speaker 9: Turpin turns into that, and maybe Vaughan does as well,
Speaker 9: and maybe it's a two headed, you know attack as
Speaker 9: far as that particular role. But yeah, I think they
Speaker 9: do a phenomenal job at saying, let's not try to
Speaker 9: make you into what we want you to be. Let's
Speaker 9: acknowledge what you are and make you great at what
Speaker 9: you want.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, they're doing great.
Speaker 7: If you really want to make Jerry Jones, Matt ask
Speaker 7: him if he felt like that, did he waste a
Speaker 7: Pollock's career so far?
Speaker 8: Make you mad? I asked him that question.
Speaker 7: He got a little hot, You got a little hot.
Speaker 7: It's okay, But that's what you have to do. You
Speaker 7: have to figure these things out. Yeah, you know, you
Speaker 7: give a great example, dan Quinn. Every guy on defense
Speaker 7: had to roll. Everybody had a role in that victory
Speaker 7: the other night. The way they played, you know, you
Speaker 7: saw different guys, different opportunities. You know, tell me about
Speaker 7: opening day if you would have thought that jan Ye
Speaker 7: Thomas was going to be in the starting lineup, Tell
Speaker 7: me if you thought Belle was going to play as
Speaker 7: a linebacker. Now, maybe that's because of overshown in his situation.
Speaker 7: I was worried that they were going to lose the
Speaker 7: overshown package that they had in mind. But it looks
Speaker 7: like they've got a couple of guys that could potentially
Speaker 7: do what they want to do with overshown being gone, and.
Speaker 6: Let's not forget like the reason why they're out there
Speaker 6: also is because your starter isn't there back he's going
Speaker 6: to do Donovan Wilson type things. So I just love
Speaker 6: how band just coordinates this thing. He just knows how
Speaker 6: to put guys in position and have him make plays.
Speaker 6: And that's that's so much about creative groove, well just
Speaker 6: about the coordinator just understanding his talent.
Speaker 7: And scouts really appreciate finding players for a guy like
Speaker 7: Dan Quinn. And not to say they don't appreciate finding
Speaker 7: players for offensive coach that's too. But if you know,
Speaker 7: if you if you are on the road and all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, you're sitting there at Florida A and M,
Speaker 7: and you see a player and you're thinking, Dan can
Speaker 7: use this guy as a linebacker. Dan could use this
Speaker 7: guy as as one of those safety linebacker guys.
Speaker 8: You know. Now, all of a sudden, like hey Dan.
Speaker 7: I saw a kid you know in Tallahassee that does
Speaker 7: this or does that, and it just makes it as
Speaker 7: a scout, it kind of it opens up to other
Speaker 7: opportunities to find players because coaches use the players the
Speaker 7: way they do.
Speaker 9: The defensive side of the ball is just magnificent at
Speaker 9: the primary three phases of winning on a player development standpoint,
Speaker 9: So it's scouting slash. That was scouting slast, drafting right,
Speaker 9: coaching and development and then scheming, you know, scheming these
Speaker 9: guys and where they need to be and helping them
Speaker 9: be in positions to win. And at all three of
Speaker 9: those levels, I mean talking about Al Harris and Joe
Speaker 9: Witt and just they the scouts have been phenomenal. The
Speaker 9: assistant coaching and position coaches have been phenomenal. And of
Speaker 9: course Dan Quinn, he's gonna Dan Quin.
Speaker 7: Well, Dan, Yeah, Dan takes an active role in that.
Speaker 7: Dan's out there shoulders shoulder with the scouts and not again,
Speaker 7: nothing agets Mike McCarthy and Mike does you know, his
Speaker 7: job with personnel stuff. But Dan's willing to roll up
Speaker 7: his sleeves and get out there with the scouts too.
Speaker 4: I think Dan wants to lay them up.
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Speaker 9: What you got bring me in beamer? Yes, science, all right,
Speaker 9: so labcoat ladies and gentlemen. Weekly segment where I reach
Speaker 9: into the proverbial lab coat, bring out one or two
Speaker 9: items that the Cowboys should focus on, be it within
Speaker 9: themselves or with the upcoming opponent. And now that well,
Speaker 9: once Aaron Rodgers went down, immediately start digging into Zach Wilson,
Speaker 9: and two numbers poke their head out.
Speaker 4: So let's talk about it.
Speaker 9: Play action. So the first number is thirty nine. Second
Speaker 9: number is going to be twenty five. We'll get to
Speaker 9: that in a second. Thirty nine. Thirty nine percent of
Speaker 9: Zach Wilson's dropbacks are on a play action. But here's
Speaker 9: what makes that more intriguing. Only twenty one percent of
Speaker 9: his total career yards are accounted for on successful play
Speaker 9: action plays.
Speaker 4: I say all of that to say I.
Speaker 9: Was asked this morning on the fan, am I worried
Speaker 9: about Garrett Wilson, not entirely because of the Cowboys secondary
Speaker 9: Breeze Hall, Dalvin Cook, Breese Hall, Dalvin Cook. If you
Speaker 9: stop Breese Hall, who was explosive against the Bills, and
Speaker 9: Dalvin Cook is still Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just say the least right.
Speaker 2: Tim cares one hundred and twenty seven yards.
Speaker 9: Yes, then you will negate the play action period for
Speaker 9: Salah and Zach Wilson. And that's taking out forty percent
Speaker 9: of their expected play calls for that young man, which
Speaker 9: then makes it that much easier to tee off on
Speaker 9: him as a pass rusher. Next number twenty five. Zach
Speaker 9: Wilson in his career with the Jets and their offensive line,
Speaker 9: as we saw last night, is still not great, particularly
Speaker 9: at the edges. Twenty five percent of his throws when
Speaker 9: under duress are categorized as bad throws. This is a
Speaker 9: stat I found on Pro Football Reference. Shout out to
Speaker 9: those guys, they do great work and bad throws are
Speaker 9: excluding spikes and throwaway, So just pure dropback throws, which
Speaker 9: includes play action as well. If he's under duress, Zach
Speaker 9: Wilson throws a bad ball once out of every four attempts.
Speaker 9: The Cowboys will get opportunities to take the ball away.
Speaker 9: Now some of those this is just kind of an aside.
Speaker 9: Dak Prescott bath throws thirteen point two percent for his career.
Speaker 9: Now this is since twenty eighteen when they started tracking
Speaker 9: the stat Aaron Rodgers seventeen point four eight percent, it's
Speaker 9: twenty eighteen, so those two are on a different planet.
Speaker 9: But when you use that contextually, up against that twenty
Speaker 9: five percent which is technically twenty four point nine for
Speaker 9: Zack Wilson, shut down Breese Hall and Dalvin Cook, which
Speaker 9: eliminates the play action, shrinks the playbook for Zack Wilson
Speaker 9: quite a bit. And then get him under pressure situations
Speaker 9: and he will throw you a bad ball once out
Speaker 9: of every four times. And when he does, question is
Speaker 9: are you going to take that ball away?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think that to me, And those are all great
Speaker 7: numbers and great ideas. The thing that I'm looking at
Speaker 7: with Zach Wilson is legs no different defensive, a different
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator from what we've seen last year with him,
Speaker 7: I think, man, this is where maybe there's a little
Speaker 7: advantage for the Cowboys of Mike McCarthy's understanding of Nathaniel Hackett,
Speaker 7: and maybe they you know, and maybe they can have
Speaker 7: a little bit clear Mike could help Dan and them
Speaker 7: understand what Nathaniel might be thinking that as a play caller.
Speaker 7: Of all the numbers that you just said, that just
Speaker 7: tells me right there, I don't need Zach Wilson throwing
Speaker 7: the ball very much. So I'm going to try and
Speaker 7: figure out ways to help him. I'm going to try
Speaker 7: and make as simple throws that I can. I'm going
Speaker 7: to try and make the defense look as easy as
Speaker 7: I can, because what's gonna happen is if they turn
Speaker 7: if this turns into a passing game, everything you just said,
Speaker 7: Patrick is absolutely gonna happen. There's gonna be bad passes,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be turnovers, there's going to be awful football
Speaker 7: for the Jets. I think Nathaniel Hackett now understands. I
Speaker 7: think having a training camp with Zach Wilson, he kind
Speaker 7: of understands now what he can and cannot do. And
Speaker 7: there's a lot of cannot do. So how do you
Speaker 7: navigate that? How do you find a way? And to me,
Speaker 7: it's Brice Hall and Dalvin Hook is what it is.
Speaker 8: It's and the one.
Speaker 7: Thing the Cowboys showed that first drive that there could
Speaker 7: be some problems stopping the run. You know, even if
Speaker 7: you have a compromised offensive line, and this is not
Speaker 7: a very good offensive line. I don't think it's as
Speaker 7: weak as what we saw with the Giants and what
Speaker 7: they did, but there's some issues there. To me, it's
Speaker 7: all about Nathaniel Hackett figuring out things for Zach Wilson
Speaker 7: because all those numbers will play if they sit there
Speaker 7: and say, okay, we're just going to turn into a
Speaker 7: team that's going to try and pass the ball here.
Speaker 7: So this this team now, to me, turns into run first,
Speaker 7: play great defense, run first, play great defense.
Speaker 9: And to that point, and I will turn into Brian
Speaker 9: brought us on this one. Mobility for the quarterback, right,
Speaker 9: So the mobility of Daniel Jones was a concern right Philly.
Speaker 9: So and you saw it play out over the you know,
Speaker 9: first three quarters of that opening drive against the Giants.
Speaker 9: Zach Wilson is actually slightly more mobile. Yeah, Zach Wilson
Speaker 9: has thirty scrambles in his two year career and he's
Speaker 9: averaging nine yards per scramble. Daniel Jones is averaging seven
Speaker 9: point nine. So while the mobility is equivalent, Sam Wilson
Speaker 9: is actually slightly better at his escapability. Might go to athleticism,
Speaker 9: might go to youth, whatever the case may be. The
Speaker 9: good news is the Cowboys showed, with the assistance of
Speaker 9: the Giants changing up their play going, that they can
Speaker 9: contain that for the course of four quarters. But when
Speaker 9: we're talking about the Jets going run first, which I
Speaker 9: agree on they will, that's going to be a part
Speaker 9: of their run first dynamic.
Speaker 6: I will throw monkey wrench in that first statue throughout there.
Speaker 6: The one thing that can complicate that a little bit
Speaker 6: is that Garrett Wilson is a bad ball catcher.
Speaker 2: As we saw last night in that game. That was
Speaker 2: not a great throw, that was great coverage.
Speaker 6: He literally was just like, Eh, give me that, and
Speaker 6: he took it and it's a touchdown.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: That's the part that I think can be a little
Speaker 6: bit of a challenge. Like again, when I was talking
Speaker 6: earlier in the show and we were talking about the
Speaker 6: Jets I'm like, their defense is so good. Their defense
Speaker 6: can keep you in games, and all it takes is
Speaker 6: that kind of moment where Garrett Wilson makes a bad
Speaker 6: ball throw look like a great throw and turns it
Speaker 6: into a touchdown and now you're in a ball game
Speaker 6: that's fair, and now you end up losing to a.
Speaker 2: Team that you probably should beat.
Speaker 6: But because their defense is so good and keeps them
Speaker 6: in the game, it just all they need is at
Speaker 6: one moment when he can catch that bad ball.
Speaker 2: And turn it into something great, one accurate.
Speaker 9: And I will say this in real time. When Garrett
Speaker 9: Wilson made that catch, and I even tweeted, I was like, man,
Speaker 9: what to catch? Respect?
Speaker 4: Respect? Because that was ridiculous.
Speaker 9: If you go back and you look at the play,
Speaker 9: I wonder if gil if that's a PBu for a
Speaker 9: guy like Gilmore who rides the hip effectively, because if
Speaker 9: you look at the spa scene in that corner of
Speaker 9: that pipeline, I mean, I think that's a play that
Speaker 9: Gilmore has a shot on. I think that's a play
Speaker 9: that Treyvon Diggs has a shot on. So that would
Speaker 9: be Garrett Wilson's ability to catch bad throws versus the
Speaker 9: ability of Treyvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmore to stay on
Speaker 9: the hip of guys that girl Wilson, particularly short yarded
Speaker 9: situations where there's not a lot of space for that
Speaker 9: receiver to operate.
Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to that. I believe that that's
Speaker 4: the case.
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, But if out of sixteen attempts, if there
Speaker 9: are four bad throws, not all of those throws are
Speaker 9: going to Garrett Wilson. Somebody also is going to get
Speaker 9: targeted and it's going to be a bad throw who
Speaker 9: is not a bad throw catcher like Garrett Wilson is.
Speaker 4: So the opportunities will be there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I do think Garrett Wilson will be a
Speaker 6: problem and we'll get into that very well as we
Speaker 6: start getting into the shows.
Speaker 2: I think, what are we doing tomorrow?
Speaker 8: Tomorrow? Defense?
Speaker 6: Little bit of defense, and it was offense on Thursday.
Speaker 6: But when we when we start talking about that, I
Speaker 6: think that's going to be a big part of it
Speaker 6: is that those running backs will be huge, obviously, but
Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson is a guy that's he could be a
Speaker 6: problem for you. And even whether it's a quarterback that
Speaker 6: doesn't he reminds me of of of of I'm trying
Speaker 6: to think of my guy that used to be with
Speaker 6: the Texans, that Hopkins.
Speaker 2: Hopkins.
Speaker 8: Hopkins was the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's attendsee now, that same kind of guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah he had bad quarterbacks throughout the vast majority of
Speaker 6: his career, but you know what he did every year
Speaker 6: still caught a bunch.
Speaker 4: Of those came for a second because Andre Johnson.
Speaker 6: I was like, no, no, I wouldn't make yeah Webster slaughter, right,
Speaker 6: But no, I mean that's that's that's what I'm starting
Speaker 6: to get a little vibe of Garrett Wilson. He's that
Speaker 6: kind of guy that doesn't matter who you put back
Speaker 6: their quarterback, he's gonna make some plays.
Speaker 2: And he's gonna make his share of his fair share
Speaker 2: of plays.
Speaker 7: And you got to be concerned. They're going to try
Speaker 7: and protect this quarterback. For sure, They're gonna try and
Speaker 7: ease him in, and they understand if it turns into
Speaker 7: a passing game, doubts that that's the that's Dallas's advantage
Speaker 7: right there. If I'm if I'm Robert Salah, I'm going
Speaker 7: to die on the hill of trying to run the ball,
Speaker 7: no doubt. I'm gonna try because I know, if I
Speaker 7: drop back and throw the ball, bunch, I'm just like
Speaker 7: the other New York team.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna look just as bad.
Speaker 2: And you got two great running backs.
Speaker 6: Why not, Like they're set up for success running the
Speaker 6: ball because they got those two backs they got.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Delvin Cook, although he you know, hasn't been
Speaker 9: successful against the dan Quinn regime.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a team game.
Speaker 9: If you go back and you look at what Delvin
Speaker 9: Cook was able to do as far statistically, he's put
Speaker 9: up solid numbers against the Cowboys. Now, obviously it was
Speaker 9: in the Vikings outfit with the Vikings offensive line. Not
Speaker 9: that they're world beaters, but you know they're, you know,
Speaker 9: arguably better than most.
Speaker 8: They got good skill there, Yeah, skills.
Speaker 9: So he's the second, he's the second, he's the second,
Speaker 9: he's the second.
Speaker 8: They can wear you down with that. We'll get into
Speaker 8: that more Thursday.
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