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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Elliott, Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones and Ken Garrison at the

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Speaker 1: controls as well, taking your phone calls. On another Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: here talking cowboys, and there's all sorts of people roaming

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Speaker 1: the hallways. Mickey Spagnola was roaming the hallways earlier today.

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Speaker 1: He was the first guy I saw on the crew today.

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Speaker 1: Hello Mickey, Hello Bill, how are you doing. Did you

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Speaker 1: go to Fight Night the other night? I did go

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Speaker 1: to Fight Night the other night and it was quite

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Speaker 1: a fight, Yes it was. And Rob Phillips, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? That was your weekend? Excellent? A lot of

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Speaker 1: college basketball all right now, it's a lot of free

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Speaker 1: agent talk. That's exactly right. Get your bracket field out,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure free agency. Yeah. And Brian brought us I'm sorry, Rob,

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Speaker 1: Well you're gonna add something else, okay, go a right,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us. Hard At work, I'm working on a

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Speaker 1: draft magazine soon to be in your stores here very soon.

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Speaker 1: How soon? I think the first week of April, a right,

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Speaker 1: first weekday April. Yeah, I heard someone talking about they

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Speaker 1: were looking at a draft magazine. Yes, okay, And if

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Speaker 1: it was a magazine that was that's already out, then

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Speaker 1: it has nothing in it, right, You have to wait

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Speaker 1: and get to this point before you're publishing something like that.

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Speaker 1: People get to have an informed the magazine. These magazines, though,

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Speaker 1: are expensive to buy. I don't think cars is expensive

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Speaker 1: to buy. So we've got more players, you know, more, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the whole idea of the thing.

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Speaker 1: If you out of Draft magazine, you try and get

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Speaker 1: as many players in there as you can get the

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Speaker 1: names get possible as a couple of mock drafts, things

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Speaker 1: like that. So we should be should be on the

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Speaker 1: shelf here Wilson and the Draft Show this Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: news stands barely. All right, let's talk about the news

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Speaker 1: of the week. In the news of the last twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours here at the Star, there have been some

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Speaker 1: people roaming the hallways here and some rather well known

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Speaker 1: people roaming the hallways. What do we make of what

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing in free agency right now? Just

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Speaker 1: to bring you up to speed. If you haven't heard

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Speaker 1: Eric Berry supposedly here today, I said, when't seen him

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Speaker 1: on the premises, I could confirm Eric Berry siting? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Eric Berry's also here. Yes, there's refirmed that one. And

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Speaker 1: apparently a Robert Quinn is going to arrive later today.

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Speaker 1: I would say that's a true. Yes day, and yesterday

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Speaker 1: And we also had a Clayton Gathers in the building

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Speaker 1: that is true as well. And we had a signing

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Speaker 1: of a Carrie Hider report on Dallas Cowboys dot com

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Speaker 1: if you'd like to read that or your guest a

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Speaker 1: little bit sky reporting on him. Yes, So what do

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Speaker 1: we make of all this? I think they're doing what

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Speaker 1: And this is this is what they do. This is

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Speaker 1: go based on best available. The intriguing thing here is

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Speaker 1: But it's a safe contract usually for a couple million

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Speaker 1: they're hunting defensive lineman, they're hunting defensive lineman, they're hunting

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Speaker 1: Barry had great coverage on him. It was just two

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Speaker 1: And then in overtime he had outside leverage on Gronk

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Speaker 1: and Gronk beat him on a slant on a critical

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Speaker 1: third down play in their game winning drive. But I

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Speaker 1: mean the fact that he played ninety seven plays in

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Speaker 1: that game tells you a little something. Probably when he's

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't know what the terms are, Mick,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you've got guys that can play safety.

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Speaker 1: Now you're not You're not asking him necessarily to, you know,

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Speaker 1: it what it would cost you, I'm in. I'm in

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Speaker 1: on it. Are you in for physically? No, he didn't say.

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Speaker 1: He said he said one year. On year he said,

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Speaker 1: I said one year. Yeah, Well you sound like you

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Speaker 1: weren't even in one year. Brian said that he's not

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Speaker 1: a one year guy. I don't think he's a one

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Speaker 1: can do it. I don't think he's looking for one

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Speaker 1: This is the this is the you know, I might

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Speaker 1: you're out there, let's let's take a peek at you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why not? Yeah? Just I mean it's part of the process, right,

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Speaker 1: So him or Robert Quinn, if you had to get

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell I want all of them.

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Speaker 1: Hello Brian, Hi, guys, how are you guys doing great? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Should I pick Iowa my bracket? Just real quick, just

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Speaker 1: curious if you really want to have a dream? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's that's a great endorsement. Should I think Iowa

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Speaker 1: state they have a better chance? Yes? Okay, okay, fair enough,

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Speaker 1: thank you sir. Go ahead. Um. I have a question

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Speaker 1: about the ringing back situation. Are there planning on I

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Speaker 1: are they really looking potentially at Duke Johnson like rumors

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Speaker 1: have have have have like on the Cowboys page or

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Speaker 1: on the other media sites, or are there just looking

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Speaker 1: at the draft prospects at the right back position to

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Speaker 1: upgrade that With what's happened with the Cleveland Browns losing

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Speaker 1: their back for eight weeks, I don't think Duke Johnson's

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Speaker 1: going any and they were trying to trade them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think those reports came out because people looked at

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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt became a Cleveland Brown. They're overstocked at running back.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't take any consideration the fact that Kareem

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Speaker 1: Hunt was going to face the suspension, which is an

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Speaker 1: eight game suspension. So Duke Johnson is probably going to

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Speaker 1: be at Cleveland Brown at least still the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: But to answer his question, yes to all that, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're looking they are the backup running back. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Robin Smith's not coming back. I just wonder. Todd

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Speaker 1: Archer brought this up is good point. If you're a

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Speaker 1: free agent running back, would you come here knowing that

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Speaker 1: Zeke's gonna play eighty five ninety percent of the snaps

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Speaker 1: and you're probably not going to get a lot of carries.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Alfred Morris came here before they drafted Zeke.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just wonder if the draft is more

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Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two years old as opposed to mid twenties.

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Speaker 1: They could use a couple. The one thing that we've

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Speaker 1: bring in a rookie and he can have some success.

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Speaker 1: Is running back. Yeah, that's the one where they kind

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Speaker 1: of plug and play and the guy we've seen now,

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Speaker 1: it's a great history of these guys coming in and

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Speaker 1: if you're talented enough, they plug you in, you play,

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Speaker 1: and you have some success. So going through the draft,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the best way. I know. Talking to

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Speaker 1: They do not want the Lance Dunbar kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh mickey, they want, Oh, you need that guy for

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Speaker 1: your third guy. They want a real legitimate running back,

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Speaker 1: is what they want. Well, what about Crowell? I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. From the Jets village, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think they're gonna stand in

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Speaker 1: there and draft, I really do. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: take it. They're gonna take it maybe third, fourth round.

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Speaker 1: They got this compensatory fours. The NFL has shown us

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Speaker 1: too that in this third round you can get a guy.

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Speaker 1: You can get a running back that's got some quality

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Speaker 1: to them. You know, just kind of go down through

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Speaker 1: the history of those guys, and this draft I think

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Speaker 1: is no exception at all. When you start talking about

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Speaker 1: I think that there's some quality running backs there, Justice

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Speaker 1: Hill from Oklahoma State. You know. Now, you get down

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Speaker 1: legitmately help you. I think going to sign Crowwell one

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Speaker 1: of those older guys. I just don't think that's the

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Speaker 1: best drop tack you can Also, if you run into

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Speaker 1: a problem at running back, maybe a running back gets

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Speaker 1: nicked up and you need a veteran guy, you can

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Speaker 1: get a veteran guy. It's a season or ramps through

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Speaker 1: that Andrews very season. You can come up with one

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Speaker 1: If I Crowell is there in September and you have

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Speaker 1: like I just gotta take one now, because I gotta

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Speaker 1: take one. I just think the depth is the depth

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Speaker 1: I've got I've got sixteen running backs up there. You know,

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Speaker 1: to get a guy at Crowell, Absolutely none. But I'm

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00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of thinking, though, can I get a guy that

637
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: if if can I get a guy if if we

638
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: can't get the contract thing done with Zeke, that maybe

639
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: you can develop, you know that maybe he could be

640
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of like what Pittsburgh did with Connor. You know,

641
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: you have a guy that can kind of come in

642
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: and take over and be that type of a player. Right.

643
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: I think crow Well, I respect the way he plays,

644
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: but I think I've got some guys that potentially can

645
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: grow and be better than him on a longer term deal.

646
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: So making what kind of money would you like to

647
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: spend on a veteran running back? Oh? No, more than

648
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: three million dollars on a one year deal. Okay, And

649
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: like what you did with Alfred Morris, and he needs

650
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: a prove it deal, we got a lot of prove it.

651
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: But that goes back to my question, like and I

652
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: don't we don't know about him, but like does he

653
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: want to play? Do you really want? Because does he want?

654
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: I hear all this talk about Zeke? You know, we

655
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: got to watch his workload. This team goes as far

656
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: as Zeke mean, does he want to play? Play? Yeah?

657
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I thought you meant did he want to play? You know?

658
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Is there an opportunity for guys to join a more

659
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: of a true running back platoon rotation or you're gonna

660
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: sign play behind Zeke? And was Crow made four million

661
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: dollars last year? He played thirty three percent of their snaps. Yeah,

662
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: he Janey barely played and he had he had pretty

663
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: good season just with UH Cleveland, which most teams in

664
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: the league have the running back by committee like that. Yeah,

665
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, and in most places he goes, He's gonna

666
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: get you know, a third of this I can draft

667
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. People people argue with you about about t. J.

668
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: Yelden from Jackson. That's another running back out there, right, Yeah,

669
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: And people will say and see, but Yelden was his

670
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: cap number was he was only at one point four

671
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville didn't need him. Yeah, yeah, well they needed

672
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: him when that when my lsue guys spit the bit. Yeah,

673
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: he played some last year. Yeah, and my guy Fournette

674
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: didn't do to after you know, he didn't play the

675
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys game and it was a rough season for him.

676
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Would you like c J. Anderson based off the last January? Yeah,

677
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: he ran over you, so he can't do it again

678
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: with somebody else, So there you go. All right. Randall Cobb,

679
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: we talked right before the break about Randall Cobb. He

680
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: intrigues me like crazy. But the injury issue is of

681
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: a concern. But he's only twenty eight years old. What

682
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: what would Randall Cobb bring to this offense? And how

683
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: much are you willing to spend on Randall Cobb? And

684
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: made ten million dollars last year? Not that snaps. He

685
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: gives you a quick, athletic slot guy. It's what you need,

686
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: you know. I think he'd be more athletic than you know,

687
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: the options they've got in house right now, unless you

688
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: think Tavon could do it full time, which you know

689
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: he only played about twenty snaps a game when he

690
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: was in there. All right, how much compare a Randall

691
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: Cobb with Cole Beasley. Randall Cobb is better after the catch.

692
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: When you Randall Cobb a former running back, how many

693
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: times have we seen Randall Cobb catch the ball and

694
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: just start running over people, you know, and making things happen?

695
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley love you. He can get up and catch it,

696
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: catch seven yards eight yards down. Yeah, can't have to.

697
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: You have to make sure the hamstring thing is taking

698
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: care of himself. That's why he only started six and

699
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: he only played nine games last year. But if you

700
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: look at what he was doing in twenty seventeen before

701
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went down, he was having a pretty diren

702
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: good season. Even the first game last year he had

703
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: like nine catches up are and forty yards in attach. Ye.

704
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, He's a legitimate player. And again, like we

705
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: talked about, you throw him the ball on the move.

706
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: You know, you know you got some guys that can

707
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: run after catch. I'm already Cooper run after catch, Randall Cob,

708
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: run after catch. Now your team gets a little bit,

709
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, Now, now things are looking a little bit better.

710
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: He's also on the right kind of guys. I think

711
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: he'd be great with Dak and and uh he's a

712
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: type player from a strategic standpoint, He's he makes other

713
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: players better on the team because if this threat, you know,

714
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: and in locker room and so forth. And you know what,

715
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: he also was returning punts to start the year last year.

716
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: For there you go, that's what you got if you

717
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: keep Austin, that's what you got him for. Well you

718
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: got a backup then yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean Austin's legitimate.

719
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: See I think last year, Okay, we would be more

720
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: excited if if the free agent market was, oh, it's

721
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin and Randall Cop, we'd all be more excited

722
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: for Randall Cob. Wouldn't we even even banged up Randall

723
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Cop given what he's done in his career with they're

724
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: playing with a better quarterback. But yeah, yeah, I would

725
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: say Cobb. Yeah, yes, So that's that's you know kind

726
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: of you know we I think we were excited about

727
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: when they signed Tavon Austin. I know I was, well,

728
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of ability, but he's had injuries.

729
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: And what I saw in training camp from Tavon Austin too,

730
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: the plays though, that's the injury. See that's what I do.

731
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: You worry that about Randall Cobb. You worry about Randall

732
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Cobb being the ten percent of the guy. Okay, but

733
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: he started off decently, yeah last year until he got hurt. Ye.

734
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean he had to catch it two tds in

735
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: in three games to start the season. Five catches. And

736
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: then if you're doing is it all right? If they

737
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: signed Randall Cobb? What happens with Alan Hearns. That's a

738
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: great question because he's the options picked up. But you

739
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: still got to go make the team. You still have

740
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: to have another backup outside receiver, don't you who's your

741
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: backup outside receiver? If if something happened Gallop, Gallop is

742
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: the starter. Gallops a starter with with Cooper Cooper, that

743
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: was good, h if you got Noah Brown on the team?

744
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah Brown? Yeah. See that's where I think, you know,

745
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: I think Cobb. I mean he could play outside though too.

746
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: He plays a little outside sure, so I mean I

747
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: would I don't know. I mean that's I kind of

748
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: think with Hearns. Yeah, it's funny about Hearns. You watch

749
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Herns in the cafeteria. Everybody loves him. Yeah, yeah, I

750
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: mean guys go up and hug him like they're like

751
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: his brother, like a senior brother at the airport. You know, oh, hey,

752
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: you know the receiver, coach, all the players, the defensive players.

753
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they love this guy. I'm pulling for him

754
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: and I do think he'll be here because I think

755
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: he's a guy that coaches just they just love him.

756
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Because like what you just said, Tavon Austin could be

757
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: the guy you kind of shift shipped out and hearns

758
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: can do every when he's healthy, and he's got to

759
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: come back from the injury, but he can do anything

760
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: for you. You can line up anywhere for you. He

761
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt you anywhere. Coaches love guys like that. Well,

762
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: you need five of them. Okay, so you're depth. You

763
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: got a Mary Cooper, you got Michael Gallup. Let's say

764
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: you signed Randall Cobb. You've got Tavon Austin, You've got

765
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Alan Hearnes, You've got Noah Brown, You've got Cedric Wilson,

766
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: You've got Lance Lenore, and then you've got a couple

767
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: of guys Devin Smith, and somebody's gonna get hurt. So yeah,

768
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: there's some competition there. Competition and then make a decision

769
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: at the end of desion see it. Let me ask

770
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: Brian this, okay, since we're on the COP train. Yeah,

771
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: and drafts coming up. Sure, you know, without a first

772
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: round pick, is there a guy you think you could

773
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: get in Browns two through five that could be a

774
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: better player looked at can give you as much as

775
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: what Cop could give you in one year? I mean,

776
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: I just think you can find receivers anywhere, but can

777
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: you I mean, can you find a guy that can

778
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: help you this year? You know, well right off the bat.

779
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it. It's tough with the

780
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: transition for a college wide receiver unless your name is

781
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, right. You know, we talked about that in

782
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: the mail back then. Yeah, but I mean Nikki's got

783
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: the guy. He's been champion Samuel from South Carolina. I

784
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: think that, you know, you get guys like that. I

785
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: think this kid this Andya Sabella can come in from

786
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: U Mass yeah and play because I think the guys

787
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: that have feel for how to play it. But you know,

788
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: it's it's a little different, and it's a little different

789
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: coming in from college and to play. I mean, I

790
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: think that's why that's why you got to kind of

791
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: hope about you know, with Gallup and Wilson, and then

792
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: also you know those guys growing, you know, growing in

793
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: the second year. You know, I think those are the

794
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: things you got to kind of hope for. All Right,

795
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: think about this, you're talking about you need it, you

796
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: need this number of receivers because you have attrition, injuries

797
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: happen or whatever happens. I mean, you look at what

798
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: they've subtracted off last year's roster, Cole Beasley and Terrence Williams. Yeah, okay,

799
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: and I listed off those receivers. They were all here

800
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: last year, okay, Right, and so you're so basically you're

801
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: looking at Randall Cobb replaces Cole Beasley, or Randall Cobb

802
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: replaces Terrence Williams. You know, so Thakday even had another

803
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: veteran guy. Yeah, when you look at it that way, so, uh,

804
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: it's it's intriguing. I love the fact that they I

805
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: just hope it's not a tease on the cob in

806
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: the Berry and the Quinn's, you know, because I but

807
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: what I think this shows is that they are really

808
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: looking at what can we do to go deep in

809
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs and do it this year? Yeah, which they

810
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: should be doing every year. They should be. But when

811
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: you look at the makeup of the roster last year

812
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: and no Daz, no Wit, and going into the season,

813
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: it's such a young team. They when you look back

814
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: at it, they really weren't going for it last year.

815
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: Now DA's got another year, Zeke's got another year. They

816
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: are in their prime to and they're at key positions.

817
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: You've got guys who are ready to go for it,

818
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, and you got to put veteran guys around

819
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: them to go for it now. And we go get

820
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: that Lawrence contract done. Then yeah, there you go. That's right,

821
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's going. I hope that doesn't start

822
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: wearing on the team. I hope it didn't start wearing

823
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff too. The front office will be tough.

824
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: The front office will put on a brave face and

825
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: and be tough and you know, and say this is

826
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: what we have to do. But trust me, it starts

827
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: affecting the locker room, it starts affecting the coaching staff.

828
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: You don't want that to kind of creep in that

829
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: that that that's not the that's not the right way

830
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: to go, especially with a player that's got the skins

831
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: on the wall. This guy, does you know? So Mickey's right, Uh,

832
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean I don't disagree with him about the contract

833
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: and first in and all that, but this is one

834
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of those I think you have to put aside all

835
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: that what you're saying first in and do your best

836
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: to get this thing done. Right. Well, I think the

837
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: team would. I just don't know the agent wants to

838
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: get it done. I think he's scared. Well, if you

839
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: make a good enough offer, then I think the agent

840
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: you're going to, Yeah, you're gonna have the world. Then Well,

841
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: to me, that that's that's where this that's where we're at.

842
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. If you, if you, if you,

843
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: if you draft and developed and signed players, this is

844
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: the perfect situation for you. What about Trey Flowers getting done?

845
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: Does that help at all in terms of figuring out

846
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: they took if they came with that number, they'd absolutely

847
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: love it. That that's that's the bottom Well, I'm just

848
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: saying that help. Does that crystallize the market a little

849
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: bit for the deal here? And you know what, d

850
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: Fords doesn't either. It's true because d Ford's if you

851
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: look at the inside of the contract, basically it was

852
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: two years. I think seventeen millions. Dallas has already committed

853
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 1: to saying we'll pay you twenty million. Scholars get paid

854
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: twenty or they're asking for twenty five. So I don't mean.

855
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: What happened last year was their number was so out

856
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: of whack they were like, well, we'll just play for

857
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: the franchise. So why would that number change this year?

858
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: If it gets to the point where it gets too contentious,

859
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: I hope I used the right word there. I think.

860
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: So if it gets too contentious, then you need to

861
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: think about moving on. That's where I think that at

862
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: what point if the agent becomes if the agent becomes

863
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: unrealistic and his demands, you've got to move See, that's

864
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: what you got to worry about. That that doesn't happen

865
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: from the team standpoint, then you have to make your

866
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: best offer. Yea, So we're best of the deadline on

867
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: that because and the reason I asked for forty days

868
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: in right now? Yeah, right now you're looking at there

869
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: are some guys in free agency you could go after

870
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: to replace him right now, Well, you're trying to trade

871
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: for one right now? Yeah, Well that's we've already established that.

872
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: That takes care of Randy Gregory. Yeah, all right, you

873
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: would need another one to replace de Marcus Lawrence, like

874
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: a Justin Houston or something like that. What is the

875
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Crawford's deadline on? Yeah, Creer goes Crawford Armstrong, Taco, you

876
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you're doing it. We're working where

877
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: we've If we've got a legitimate right in. This is rare.

878
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: A left end that can rush is Reggie White, is

879
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Michael Strahand is the Marcus Lawrence. Those are rare cats.

880
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: If you went on the left side, you're a rare cat,

881
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, so I think you have to be you know,

882
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: if you also you get Quinn. All right, let's just

883
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: kind of let's put okay, we got Crawford's played over

884
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: there before. Armstrong has shown some flashes at time. Taco, listen,

885
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: we need you to be better than you are. If not,

886
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing something else. But if you if

887
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: you reach a stalemate with Lawrence and you've got to

888
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: go get another guy, if you give, if you can't,

889
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: if you can't, and that's the thing that's not gonna

890
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: find that guy to play the left side the way

891
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: he plays it. No, no, he he he. You can

892
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: replace the left side but it's gonna be It's gonna

893
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: be hard. But I gave you options where I need help. Now,

894
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: is I better to replace his eight to ten sacks?

895
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: I better get somebody on the right side. I better

896
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: go get Quinn now or somebody that can get me

897
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: eight to ten sacks on the right side. If you

898
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: get Quinn, all right, this is this is now. You

899
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: get Quinn here and you want to move on from Lawrence,

900
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier to do, right, So how

901
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: much the last foot on Lawrence to Okay, maybe I

902
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: need to go ahead, And I think it puts a

903
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: little pressure on him. If you look at if they

904
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: get Quinn here all of a sudden, now you got

905
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: a guy that's left. The team has options. Team's got options.

906
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: They can say, well, you know what, we could just

907
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: kick Crawford back to the left side. Like I was saying,

908
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: I was just telling you names, telling you names over there, right, So,

909
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, is it the you know, yeah, what's the

910
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: one thing that Tyren Crawford can do? He could play

911
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: the run, play it left end. You know, you play

912
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: it right in because you're getting because you got you

913
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: got a guy that could play the left end. Already

914
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: play the run. That's why you got because if you

915
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: don't get the Quinn deal done, the team does not

916
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: want to wait until July fifteenth to decide this. I wouldn't.

917
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't if if if Mickey's right, If Mickey's right,

918
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see. If Micky's right, we will

919
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: this agent. If he doesn't give them an opportunity to

920
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: make a fair deal, then I'm going to say, Okay,

921
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: it's now out of my hands. Now you're gonna have

922
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: to deal with the Indianapolis Colts, or you're gonna have

923
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: to deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Land

924
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: of Falcons or whoever. But that's the importance of getting

925
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: the Quinn deal done exactly right, exactly see, and then

926
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: you can you can you can minimize what the total

927
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: is by offering more guaranteed money than these other guys

928
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: are getting. That's the way I think they get around this.

929
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: I think three quarters of the contracts are gonna have

930
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: to guaranteed. Ideally, you want to get the Quinn deal done,

931
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: and you want to get the Lawrence deal done, absolutely yeah,

932
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Speaker 1: because that that helps you overall. But but the Quinn

933
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934
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935
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Speaker 1: back to talking Cowboys. Hey, let's not forget about Jack

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Speaker 1: How many words can they put together for Mickey just

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999
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: that was all off the top of his head. It's

1000
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Speaker 1: skin serum? Yeah, the way it just kind of all

1003
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Speaker 1: came together there. All right, we got five minutes, you know,

1004
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: we need to go to Let's go Phil in Louisiana.

1005
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: How far as ls you gonna go in the tournament? Phill? Well, uh, Brian,

1006
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: with all due respect, I'm not paying too much in

1007
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Speaker 1: two into it, but okay, I've been focused on the

1008
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: Will Wade thing a little bit. All right, let's move on. Yeah, okay, Chela, yeah, God,

1009
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about jackpot. Just we're talking about free agency.

1010
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: Sure is uh, guaranteed money the only way that a

1011
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: team can defer players cap in or there are other

1012
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: tools they could use to manipulate the cap that a

1013
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: different contract will have effect on the on the salary cap. Well,

1014
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: you can't manipulate it. Now. What what you do? If

1015
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: you sign them to a signing bonus, you spread it

1016
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Speaker 1: over the life of the contract. But if you're guaranteeing

1017
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: base salaries, that doesn't get spread out. No, So a

1018
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: lot of what's going on now when they signed these

1019
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 1: five year deals, uh, and just take the Earl Thomas deal.

1020
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: The first two years are fully guaranteed at thirty two

1021
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, that you know, that's not spread out.

1022
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: So what you're what you're doing basically is saying, okay, Earl,

1023
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: I'm paying you sixteen million of dollars for the two

1024
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: years each year and it's guaranteed. It's frontloaded. So they

1025
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: start frontloading these things. Now, you can take the signing

1026
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: bonus and spread it out, But if you're guaranteeing base salaries,

1027
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: that's not spread out. You got to pay it that

1028
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: year and you can't get away from it either. Nope,

1029
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: that's true. Unless the Miami Dolphins want to pay some

1030
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: of it to trade their guy. Yeah, I don't get that.

1031
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: He's got a one point one million dollar roster bonus

1032
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: two that on that deal. Yeah, Quinn, So I don't

1033
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: know when it was eleven point eight salary one point one. Yeah,

1034
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't know when that's due. Maybe the maybe they're

1035
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: trying to get out another probably trying to do it

1036
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Speaker 1: before Steven Stephen Ross's money and he's a billionaire. But

1037
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe I don't wonder if it's a May

1038
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Speaker 1: twenty third one or something like exactly exactly they're trying

1039
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Speaker 1: to figure that out, or March twentieth, I mean, not maye,

1040
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Speaker 1: but March. Yeah. Yeah, I was with you, Bill, Yeah,

1041
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. I was gonna say, well,

1042
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: by the way, I could wait till that. On the

1043
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Mickey mentioned the Thomas deal. I think fans just I

1044
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: don't know, judging on social and all that stuff, I

1045
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: think they've come around on that and seeing that that

1046
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,680
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1047
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Speaker 1: and it may the Ravens came from. I didn't. I didn't.

1048
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Speaker 1: I didn't see the Ravens coming on this one. I thought,

1049
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Speaker 1: I thought the longer this thing was going to go,

1050
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Speaker 1: the better chance. He said he was going to end

1051
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: up where where Kansas City and it was, it would

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: have been maybe a short term. He thought he was

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00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: going to have to sign a one year prove it deal.

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00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: So I think in this, I think this is just

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00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: my gut feeling on that. He probably did. He probably

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to mention Dallas by name. You know, he

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00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: probably said I had to deal with Kansas City. I didn't.

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00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: Dallas wasn't, you know, never. Yeah, maybe there's some hard

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00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: feelings there, you know. I don't think he ever got

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00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: a bite. Yeah. I don't think so either. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: That's not for that kind of money. Nope, Nope, No, Well,

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00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: I was thinking on a short term deal. M. I

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00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: was thinking a short term deal, eleven million dollars deal.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Robert Quinn has already been paid at

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00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: roster bonus there you go, well one point one million,

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Speaker 1: get that out of there. Then, so what's the base

1067
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: just twelve twelve point eight twelve point eight, So that's

1068
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: a lot of base salary. Yeah, M we'll see. So

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00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: what he's looking for, Well, however, the contract structured he

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00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: works I'm sorry, the salaries eleven point eight. Okay, that's right.

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00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: So what he's looking for is he wants to make

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00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: eleven point eight this year. No matter how you structure,

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: it's so signing bonus or base out. So somehow you

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00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: that you find the way the Dolphins have to pay

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: like seven million of it, and then you turn around

1076
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: and pay the other four something. You know, you try

1077
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: and work some deal that way to do it, you know,

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00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: make them have to pay the lion's share of the

1079
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: freight for for doing this. Kind of the going rate

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: on players of that ILK and leaves his space is

1081
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: like three and a half and three and a half.

1082
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: So twin you three and a half and Dolphins you

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: pay the rest. We've come on to something in here,

1084
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: because if you get Quinn, that gives you some flexibility.

1085
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Now honestly, that gives you some some big time flexibility.

1086
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: And and I guarantee you in in Lawrence's camp, that

1087
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: will get your attention because it's no longer you know,

1088
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: a depth problem. Now you've got a legitimate pass rusher

1089
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: that Jay is on the last year of his contract. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1090
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: So that's that's interesting. So it's almost if you get him,

1091
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: it's a one year prove it deal, and you show

1092
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: me that you deserve next year prove it, you can

1093
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: turn around franchise him. Mickey loves one year proven I do.

1094
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: That's right, because I don't trust on other teams don't

1095
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: want a guy. There's gotta be a reason. But but

1096
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: you look at it from a Cowboys perspective, then you Okay,

1097
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: you've got the twenty million dollars right now, that's a

1098
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Speaker 1: follow up question real quick. I'm sorry, Yeah, Mickey, what

1099
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Speaker 1: about then, Jonathan? What about Amari Cooper? Then? So you

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you say that, and I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to learn here. Yeah, I'm I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: every case is the same. But but I think Cooper

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00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: there obviously was a reason they wanted to get rid

1104
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: of him, but because John Grun's crazy, they didn't and

1105
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: they didn't want to spend the money on for the

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00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: for the last year of the fourteen million dollars, and

1107
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: as they just bought a thirty one year old receiver. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

1108
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: unless he changed their mind, different story. I think with

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00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Cooper at twenty four years old and by all accounts.

1110
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's a good locker room guy, has been

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. I think you're more comfortable with

1112
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: that move with a with two years left on his deal.

1113
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm okay with if somebody gets rid of somebody because

1114
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: it's a coaching or a scheme problem. I get that,

1115
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I mean, I I can you

1116
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: better find that out. Yeah, I'm I'm totally on board

1117
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: with if, like I said, Quinn, they got rid of

1118
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Quinn because it was not a scheme fit. Obviously it

1119
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, would Wade Phillips and look look at

1120
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: stand up outside linebacker, that's not his Remember Oakland picked

1121
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: up the fourteen million on Cooper before John Gruden. Look

1122
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: where the Dolphins are as a franchise right now. They

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Speaker 1: just signed Ryan Fitzpatrick quarterback. My guy, Chris, my guy, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Chris is gonna turn around down there. Chris can turn Yeah. No, no,

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Speaker 1: but it's a rebuild down there, and so Chris career.

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Speaker 1: It's magic though. Don't turn around. They're not they're not

1127
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: winning anything this year. They got the guy who's the

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00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: GM now is a good GM. I mean, I know

1129
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: they're having some struggles, but right, he'll get it. He'll

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Speaker 1: get it the right way. Okay, it's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: interesting week here at the Star. We'll talk at you

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Speaker 1: again next week and Brian on Thursday at eleven the

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