Speaker 1: From the King of sports books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your hosts, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Dekker. Welcome to a niche where
Speaker 1: we are onto the divisional round of the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 1: It is here. Wild Card weekend did not disappoint, but Jerry,
Speaker 1: looking at the four matchups this weekend, just right off
Speaker 1: the bat, the biggest bread is Jaguars at Chiefs eight
Speaker 1: and a half points favorite in Kansas City, and then
Speaker 1: Eagles also more than a touchdown favorite over the Giants.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, seven and a half. And then both Sunday
Speaker 1: games are expected to be really good. They're expected to
Speaker 1: be much closer. Bills are giving four and a half
Speaker 1: forty Niners are giving three and a half. So, just
Speaker 1: right off the bat, do your Giant stand a chance?
Speaker 1: Do they cover? Look? I do like the Giants to
Speaker 1: cover seven and a half in the playoff game is
Speaker 1: a is a lot, especially with the way the Giants
Speaker 1: have been playing. However, I don't think I've tweeted this
Speaker 1: much since like two thousand and twelve. But the Eagles
Speaker 1: are not the vicing. No disrespect to the Vikings is
Speaker 1: a whole different piece that we're walking into. I don't
Speaker 1: read much into these games, so this is gonna this
Speaker 1: is a tall order. Those number one seated Eagles, I
Speaker 1: know that's that game is going to be good. I
Speaker 1: was surprised, obviously that was considered the one upset of
Speaker 1: wild Card weekend. Really, I mean, Jaguars, you could say too,
Speaker 1: obviously that come back, but you know, the Giants, We're
Speaker 1: not supposed to win that game, and the Vikings just
Speaker 1: kind of collapsed it. We'll get to all that. I
Speaker 1: know you probably have a lot of thoughts. So any
Speaker 1: good bets from this past weekend. Yeah, the weekend, yes,
Speaker 1: Monday night not so much. But the weekend I had
Speaker 1: another one in my I remember we discussed jumping on
Speaker 1: those big spread teams in the ten point ties, like
Speaker 1: I did. I basically had the Bills Niners, and then
Speaker 1: I bumped the Giants up to plus thirteen and a half.
Speaker 1: Only really needed the points in the Bills game, which
Speaker 1: I knew. I had a good feeling that I was
Speaker 1: gonna hit. But my shining moment for the weekend, and
Speaker 1: it might have been because I was just half asleep,
Speaker 1: I fired in a little action on the Jaguars down
Speaker 1: twenty seven to seven at half to win on the
Speaker 1: money line. Plus so my shining, my shining moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should say, so what gave you so much hope?
Speaker 1: What gave me hope? Is number one? That touchdown at
Speaker 1: the end of the half really saved it for me.
Speaker 1: If they would have went in twenty seven nothing or
Speaker 1: even twenty seven three, if the Jags wouldn't have gotten
Speaker 1: that t D before the half, that showed the life.
Speaker 1: But also I am of the opinion having a twenty
Speaker 1: seven to seven lead is probably the worst thing that
Speaker 1: could have happened to the Chargers. Now, this is a
Speaker 1: fan perspective, This is not excess in those I know
Speaker 1: that sounds ridiculous. Explain, I don't like the Chargers nursing
Speaker 1: a lead for a whole half. I want them aggressive.
Speaker 1: I want them trying to come back. I want them firing,
Speaker 1: like putting up points. And they don't really have the
Speaker 1: run game to wind down the clock. And I think
Speaker 1: it just played right into the Jaguars hands. And the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: give them credit, never gave up. So uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy. Look, every team wants seven to
Speaker 1: seven lead at half. In this case, I just don't
Speaker 1: think it benefited the Charges as much as it would
Speaker 1: other NFL teams. Anyone would take it except coach Jerry.
Speaker 1: He's not like in that scoreboard. You know. Monday night
Speaker 1: was the only game of the six all weekend where
Speaker 1: the under hit. It was a high scoring weekend. It
Speaker 1: was exciting. Yeah, there was points all weekend long. It
Speaker 1: was a big party Monday night. I just wanted action
Speaker 1: Monday night. So I didn't do this as like I
Speaker 1: had some things with the Bucks money line and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, because just thinking it might have been a
Speaker 1: close game and maybe Tom Brady in the close game.
Speaker 1: But no, it shows everything we saw this year was true.
Speaker 1: They're done. It's over for them. He's done there. He's
Speaker 1: got to be. It's got to be. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how you could fix it. Maybe you will talk
Speaker 1: to Andrew Brant about it later. Maybe he could tell
Speaker 1: us how you would fix that for Brady to stay.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh yeah, and the Cowboys Niners?
Speaker 1: Who is that setting up to be old school classic? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That just sounds like a Hallmark game. Yeah, you mentioned
Speaker 1: Andrew Brandt, former NFL executive he's joining us, he's been
Speaker 1: on before. He's so fantastic. He's kind of one of
Speaker 1: those guys who has a lot of hot takes and
Speaker 1: is very strong in his convictions and says stuff that
Speaker 1: maybe other people are scared to say. So he's a
Speaker 1: fantastic guest. I want to say really quickly. I mentioned
Speaker 1: that the under hit in the Monday night game Dallas
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. It only missed by half a point. It
Speaker 1: was forty five and a half was the point total.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, someone missed a lot of extra points,
Speaker 1: so that a lot of betters that might be your
Speaker 1: bad beat. That's got to be everyone's worst beat of
Speaker 1: the weekend. That that was pretty tough. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk more about the Brett Mayre missed extra points
Speaker 1: in my Unleashed because I have a couple of ideas
Speaker 1: of what the Cowboys should do before their meeting with forty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll start I'll stop arguing on Twitter about keeping
Speaker 1: the extra point where it is. I guess I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Still say let's move it back up to where it was.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I can't wait for your unleash. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. It's funny because it was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, just the yips, the yips. My husband, as
Speaker 1: a basketball player, talks about it. I think most people
Speaker 1: can relate in golf. If you played golf, I've had
Speaker 1: him hit a put inside five feet. Yeah. But hey,
Speaker 1: speaking of golf, Jerry, I finally got to the Tom
Speaker 1: Brady golf episode of Entourage that you've told me is
Speaker 1: one you're asked about a lot. So are you gonna
Speaker 1: have some stories for me about Tom Brady later in
Speaker 1: the show when we get to the entreage segment. I
Speaker 1: have stories. There's a lot that went into that episode.
Speaker 1: I'll tease it with this, and maybe some listeners might
Speaker 1: know this because I have told this story once before.
Speaker 1: But let's just say that episode was not written for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Mark Wahlberg. It was written for others. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't say anything, just teaser. Oh. Speaking of which, you
Speaker 1: know how you let it slip a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago what Turtle's real name is. I finally got to
Speaker 1: that point and I was like, damn it, Jerry, that
Speaker 1: would have been really fun to find out. I got
Speaker 1: a great story for that too, a really emotional story
Speaker 1: for that one. Oh gosh, Okay, well that'll be fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: On trash segment is always later in the show, and
Speaker 1: we've got a lot to talk about in that segment. Okay, Jerry,
Speaker 1: let's start as we recap wild Card weekend with your Giants.
Speaker 1: They went into Minnesota and took down the Vikings. What
Speaker 1: was your takeaway? My biggest takeaway was Daniel Jones was
Speaker 1: a beast. Look as a Giants fan, scary be and
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this last week, scary being sort
Speaker 1: of the betting publics team. I like it when the
Speaker 1: Giants are picked to lose by everyone and everyone's doubting name.
Speaker 1: I want them an underdog mindset. And the Vikings came
Speaker 1: right out and scored opening drive, and I for sure
Speaker 1: it was like, well maybe, uh, this is one of
Speaker 1: those games where everyone's just wrong about the Giants being
Speaker 1: in the team to look out for. But Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: right from that first drive answered right back with a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Then they answered right back with another touchdown to go
Speaker 1: up fourteen seven. From that moment, it was game on.
Speaker 1: It was almost like a picture throwing like a no hitter.
Speaker 1: I just don't even look at this guy. Just let
Speaker 1: him keep going. I did not think he could maintain
Speaker 1: it for a whole game. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever seen Daniel Jones do it from start to finish
Speaker 1: like that, And he did even with the Darius Slayton
Speaker 1: throw and and dropped catch. You know, that was a
Speaker 1: perfect throw that would ice the game. So he might
Speaker 1: have made himself a lot of Every pass is just
Speaker 1: like an extra million bucks that he's completing. Everybody, every
Speaker 1: rushing yards like another two grand. Yeah, it was just
Speaker 1: we're watching someone securing a bag in real time. I
Speaker 1: love it. Speaking of his rushing, he had seventeen rush attempts,
Speaker 1: which is the second most by a quarterback in playoff history.
Speaker 1: It's like Daniel Jones looked more like Josh Allen than
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah, and look, this is where you have
Speaker 1: to give credit to say Kwon Barkley for all the
Speaker 1: people out there and say you don't want to pay
Speaker 1: a running back and get running backs and later agreed,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But can you get
Speaker 1: sa Kwon Barkley in the second round, in the third
Speaker 1: round or sign off someone's practice one? No, What I
Speaker 1: mean by that is they built the whole offense around
Speaker 1: the threat of sa Kwon Barkley. They had design runs
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones with misdirection networked because of the threat
Speaker 1: that is se Kwon Barkley. And there's two touchdowns. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: There's not any old running back that could just go
Speaker 1: get those two touchdowns like that. So yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a great game, one of the close ones of the weekend,
Speaker 1: But the game of the weekend may have taken place
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. The fifth biggest comeback in NFL history, third
Speaker 1: biggest comeback in the postseason. And they were down in
Speaker 1: the first half. Did they score touchdown right before half
Speaker 1: that you were saying, I believe they scored a touchdown
Speaker 1: right at the end of the half. I will double check.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because I think that's what gave me
Speaker 1: the confidence to say, you know something, Did they were
Speaker 1: down seven at half? They scored just before the end
Speaker 1: of the half. I must have gone to bed right
Speaker 1: before that touched pen because I was like, oh, it's done.
Speaker 1: He threw what four interceptions Trevor Lawrence did in the
Speaker 1: first half, three or two A Sante Samuel that must
Speaker 1: have been his biggest target in the first half. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like that's a wrap. It's over. But you
Speaker 1: got to give Trevor Lawrence so much credit for still
Speaker 1: taking the shots he did. When I woke up, obviously,
Speaker 1: I watched the highlights. That's the first thing Sam and
Speaker 1: I did in the morning, over a big cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: We were like, what the hell happened in that game?
Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence looked so composed. He was taking gutsy
Speaker 1: shots like he wasn't playing scared at all. And I
Speaker 1: know he's talked a lot recently about the mental fortitude
Speaker 1: it takes to play the quarterback position, and he completely
Speaker 1: exemplified that. Yeah, and if you look at it, two
Speaker 1: of the picks, one was tipped and that's still kind
Speaker 1: of on him, you know, like the ball was tipped
Speaker 1: and it happens all the time. You've got a bad
Speaker 1: bounce there, and one of the other picks was clearly
Speaker 1: interference that well with the referees. That's a whole other
Speaker 1: conversation for maybe a whole other episode. But that being said,
Speaker 1: he was playing terrible. I love what he said postgame
Speaker 1: about at halftime, which just makes complete like, what, you know,
Speaker 1: what choice did I have to not gut my way
Speaker 1: through this, like, what other choice do I have? Give up?
Speaker 1: And you just look at those weapons and the other
Speaker 1: thing I was looking at as a better looking Larry.
Speaker 1: He still has weapons. They can put up points in bunches.
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, that is the kind of coach I want
Speaker 1: in that situation. Yeah, I just don't. I trust Doug
Speaker 1: Pearson to at least make a game of it. And
Speaker 1: they did, and I was impressive. And for going into
Speaker 1: Kansas City with your Chiefs. Look, it would be unreal
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. One of the biggest upsets in playoff history.
Speaker 1: But either way, I don't think that's gonna be I
Speaker 1: like the Jags to maybe cover that. I don't think
Speaker 1: they the Chiefs walk through that team. Did I tell
Speaker 1: you I'm working that game? You want wait? Stop? I am. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really pumped. I'm doing it with Westwood One. I'm
Speaker 1: calling it with my dad. It's our third NFL game.
Speaker 1: We're working together, and I'm really excited. And I came
Speaker 1: across this stat as I've started my prep that Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence has never lost a football game on a Saturday
Speaker 1: in his life, Like going back to peewee football, He's
Speaker 1: never lost a Saturday football game and they play Saturday.
Speaker 1: Just say so. You might be right, it might be close,
Speaker 1: but I think he gets his first Saturday. Also, your
Speaker 1: third game is your first playoff game? Or now they're
Speaker 1: all been plays playoff game? Okay, alright, so god what
Speaker 1: last year our game? Last year we worked was Big
Speaker 1: Ben's final game Ben Roethlisberger. It was Steelers at Chiefs
Speaker 1: was our last one. Now I live in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: so I think that's why I keep getting assigned the
Speaker 1: Chiefs to save money on travel. Local higher. I know
Speaker 1: that's like as an actor, local higher it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it. I'd so much rather sleep in my own bed.
Speaker 1: So I'm really really excited for that one. I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be a good game. Have you started
Speaker 1: prepping already? I mean, I'm sure mentally you have. When
Speaker 1: do you really start? When do you really start to
Speaker 1: get the field? Now it's a Saturday game, so shorter week.
Speaker 1: When do you really is it? Is it today? We're
Speaker 1: taping on the Tuesday? Is it Thursday? Where you start
Speaker 1: getting the oh shits, here we go, let's do this.
Speaker 1: This is actually a good question. When I get a
Speaker 1: lot and thank god, my my background where I really
Speaker 1: I've worked the most games in my career in college football.
Speaker 1: Saturday's right, so I'm kind of going back to my
Speaker 1: college football schedule. So yeah, I know, all week we've
Speaker 1: got zooms with players and coaches, all of a couple
Speaker 1: of calls with a couple of players and coaches, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, we go to the game. It's on radio.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentioned that's on Westwood On Radio,
Speaker 1: the national radio broadcast of the game. So you're driving around,
Speaker 1: turn on the radio, you'll hear me and my pops.
Speaker 1: But you know, it is, like I mentioned at the
Speaker 1: top of the show, it's the biggest spread of the weekend.
Speaker 1: So Vegas is not expecting it to be a close game.
Speaker 1: But I'm just excited for a Saturday Arrowhead. I love.
Speaker 1: You've got to go to Arrowhead, Jerry, It's I would
Speaker 1: love to. I've I'm already starting to get goaded into
Speaker 1: friends of mine who want to want to go to
Speaker 1: Philly for that Giants road. You know what, I love
Speaker 1: football and I love the Giants. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go into Philly and January in a
Speaker 1: playoff game, I don't know. All respect to the Philly fan,
Speaker 1: but I would love to I'm more interested in going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love to go to a Chiefs game. So
Speaker 1: maybe the next one you call, maybe I get to
Speaker 1: uh to come there. You go. Okay, what's Bill's Bengals
Speaker 1: that's coming up? We have not talked about that. Obviously.
Speaker 1: The stage is set because last time these teams played
Speaker 1: is win Tomorrow. Hamlin was carted off the field and
Speaker 1: the world stopped. So there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: emotion in this game. What are you expecting for this one?
Speaker 1: It's weirdly a mirror of the NFC. Right, the NFC
Speaker 1: you have the Cowboys Niners, And if you're the Eagles,
Speaker 1: were the number one seeds supposed to beat the Giants,
Speaker 1: you're looking at that game saying, I hope those two
Speaker 1: teams just beat the ship out of each other. So
Speaker 1: now if you're the Chiefs, who should beat the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at that Bills Bengals game, like, you know,
Speaker 1: whoever comes out of there, hopefully will have expended a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. I worry about both these teams. I
Speaker 1: mean the Bills. That was a weird close game, and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen looks so good at times, but then he
Speaker 1: just started throwing the ball around like it was a
Speaker 1: hot potato. And I don't know if they maybe are
Speaker 1: that aggressive with the Bengals, will see the Bengals healthwise
Speaker 1: on the line certainly troubles me. I mean, both of
Speaker 1: those teams easily could have lost those games if they
Speaker 1: continued to fall asleep at the wheel. The Bengals really,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're about to go down seven. They were
Speaker 1: about to go down seven. And I have to agree
Speaker 1: a little bit with Dobbins who was saying that after
Speaker 1: the game, like, I just don't know how I don't
Speaker 1: get one red zone touch in the whole entire game.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to say revisionist history with that fumble,
Speaker 1: but maybe what A gave it to j K on
Speaker 1: the first down on just to try to get in.
Speaker 1: But I like the Bills in that game, wouldn't be
Speaker 1: shocked if the Bengals did win. But I just think
Speaker 1: in Offfalow, with those emotions running high, I just think
Speaker 1: that they're going to be extra fired up for that game,
Speaker 1: and I like to I think we've been heading towards
Speaker 1: this Chief's Bills match up. I agree, it feels like
Speaker 1: it's been mounting since they last played in this round
Speaker 1: last year, the divisional round. Last year was the last
Speaker 1: time they based off in the playoffs, so it's it's
Speaker 1: been anticipated. It's what everyone wants, of course, But listen
Speaker 1: to this because you know, I've got a random stat
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull out of my ask. Joe Burrow is
Speaker 1: six and oh in January, and he's eight and oh.
Speaker 1: If you go back to L s U in January
Speaker 1: as a starter, what do you think of that? Does
Speaker 1: that scare you at all? Or doesn't mean again? Coming
Speaker 1: at it from a betting perspective, I lean Bills, but
Speaker 1: I think of all the players I would not want
Speaker 1: to bet against, Mahomes is an easy answer because he's
Speaker 1: but even still ma Homes sometimes it's so talented. He'll
Speaker 1: he'll let you cover a game just because he maybe
Speaker 1: got bored. Burrow is just not the dude I want
Speaker 1: to bet against, and no matter what, no matter who's
Speaker 1: on the other end. So I would be scared to
Speaker 1: bet the Bills. I probably will bet the Bills, but
Speaker 1: rooting not against but just having to go against Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and a betof that's just a ready I'm already uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but yeah, I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: think that one is Bills for sure. That one seems
Speaker 1: pretty clear to me. Okay, hats off to the NFC
Speaker 1: East though, let's just put a bow on it. Right.
Speaker 1: Three of the four teams left in the NFC come
Speaker 1: from that division. That's really impressive. But somehow lost in
Speaker 1: this weekend are the forty Niners, who continue to win
Speaker 1: under Brock Bertie. Christian McCaffrey also had a big day
Speaker 1: as a d Samuel. So all the stars are doing
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to. So are the forty Niners now
Speaker 1: the team to be in the NFC because, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: it is an instant classic ahead of us in their
Speaker 1: meeting with Dallas. Yeah, I mean, odds wise to win
Speaker 1: the NFC right now, the Niners are plus one forty
Speaker 1: Eagles or plus one sixty Cowboys plus four fifty Giants
Speaker 1: plus eleven hundreds. So there you go. That's who the
Speaker 1: betting world thinks is the favorite. I do think I
Speaker 1: do give them the slight edge, but you gotta remember
Speaker 1: you're giving the slight edge to a rookie quarterback who
Speaker 1: has looked fantastic. But to me, of all the teams
Speaker 1: he went through in the regular season, and no disrespect
Speaker 1: in that first round to the Seattle Seahawks, that was
Speaker 1: not the legion of boom that he was up against.
Speaker 1: You know, Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner were not there. So
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a huge test, could
Speaker 1: be a career defining test for brock Purty if he
Speaker 1: loses to Dallas and that defense, are we still saying
Speaker 1: build around brock Purty he's the guy, maybe, But if
Speaker 1: he beats Dallas and looks impressive doing so, he might
Speaker 1: really just be sealing up his future. So I'm most
Speaker 1: excited after the Giants, of course, most excited for that game.
Speaker 1: And you're a game of course I can't. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: listen to your game on the radio. Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1: We always talk about getting hot at the right time,
Speaker 1: so everyone has kind of written Dallas off and then
Speaker 1: here they are getting hot at the right time. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just makes you wonder, are they
Speaker 1: the dangerous team? Because Dak Dak was amazing and it's
Speaker 1: hard to think that Dak Prescott outshine Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: that obviously that leads to a whole other discussion. By
Speaker 1: the way, do you kiss your sons on the lips?
Speaker 1: I do not. Okay, tom Brady a kissed his dad
Speaker 1: on the lips after the game. I you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Everyone do whatever. Look, however you want to express love,
Speaker 1: it's love, great, beautiful. I do not. I mean, they
Speaker 1: got really cute cheeks, they got chubby cheeks. I give
Speaker 1: them a little kiss on the cheek or a kiss
Speaker 1: on the head. I'm a hugger. I'd give me the hug,
Speaker 1: A good hug to me. That's enough. I want the hug.
Speaker 1: I'll stay in the hub a little along with them.
Speaker 1: When they're like, dad, get away, I'll stay in the hug.
Speaker 1: I say this obviously facetiously. Your kids are babies. I
Speaker 1: have a little baby boy. I kiss him on the
Speaker 1: lips all the time. But people were freaking out because
Speaker 1: Tom Brady kissed his dad on the lips. They're like
Speaker 1: two grown men American. That's my mom said, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like Brazilian culture. I said, just because his wife
Speaker 1: is Brazilian doesn't mean anyways, that's a tangent. I just
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of funny. I was kidding. If
Speaker 1: you thought about it, it's okay. Well you might have
Speaker 1: thought that Tom Brady gets on the lips of his
Speaker 1: dad would have been my unleash of the week. But
Speaker 1: it's not. We still have to get unleashed. Jerry, you
Speaker 1: go first. Okay. I don't know, maybe everyone else. Maybe
Speaker 1: I might have missed the memo here watching football like
Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now we have expedited reviews. It's like, well, we looked
Speaker 1: at it really quick, and uh, you know it's no catch.
Speaker 1: Did you know this was coming Olivia? I didn't know
Speaker 1: there's like this whole new review process that the Boots
Speaker 1: already got the answer. We don't cut the commercial. It
Speaker 1: completely screwed up my viewing experience. When I take bath
Speaker 1: through breaks, snack breaks. Anytime I know there's a review,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, let me scroll Twitter. So that threw
Speaker 1: me for is this something they've been testing? Because you
Speaker 1: roll this out in the playoffs, you must be pretty
Speaker 1: confident it's gonna be awesome, and it was this is
Speaker 1: gonna stay, right, this has to stay even in the
Speaker 1: regular season. I don't know if we get through the
Speaker 1: Bills Dolphins game without expedited reviews. Were you surprised by this?
Speaker 1: College football needs to take a page from this book
Speaker 1: because those games are way too long. So I think
Speaker 1: everyone can agree that football games can be a touch quick.
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew this was going to be
Speaker 1: unrolled like this weekend, but I I like it too.
Speaker 1: But it does change the way you watch a game.
Speaker 1: You can't just like, Hey, anyone want to drink. This
Speaker 1: will take a while, I'll go to the bar. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for it. I had no idea this
Speaker 1: was coming. I missed the memo I saw no place
Speaker 1: on social media. But pleasant surprise. You know, NFL, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things good and not so good. This
Speaker 1: was good. This was a good job by good job
Speaker 1: by the NFL with the expedited reviews. Keep it comment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what was not good was the Cowboys kicking
Speaker 1: game Monday night. They won, of course, they beat the Bucks.
Speaker 1: They sent Tom Brady home, maybe for the last time
Speaker 1: as a buccaneer. But Brett Mayor tried tried to give
Speaker 1: it away. He missed four straight extra points the first
Speaker 1: time in history, by the way, that's been done. And
Speaker 1: he also missed an extra point the week before, so
Speaker 1: he's been on a cold streak. You know you've heard
Speaker 1: of the yips. I talked about it earlier in the show.
Speaker 1: The average person can probably relate in their golf game
Speaker 1: or something, but it is real, like JJ Reddick and
Speaker 1: basketball has always talked about this, like your body forgets
Speaker 1: how to do what it's supposed to do. And it's
Speaker 1: sad for me to think when Brett goes back and
Speaker 1: watches the tape, and I hope he doesn't watch the
Speaker 1: TV copy because if he does, he'll see his teammates
Speaker 1: on the sideline grimacing upset, Dak Prescott saying go for two,
Speaker 1: we can't kick, and also sad at one point he
Speaker 1: ran out for a field goal and they were not kicking.
Speaker 1: They we're not trusting him to do it. They went
Speaker 1: for it. So I just I feel bad for the guy.
Speaker 1: You've heard me say a million times on the show.
Speaker 1: I'll never let my son kick a football for this
Speaker 1: very reason. And look, Brett Mayor is a very decorated kicker.
Speaker 1: He is money from deep. That's the problem. He has
Speaker 1: the most made field goals over sixty yards I think
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so here's what I think. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: have two options as they face San Francisco this weekend.
Speaker 1: They can have the snap just go back really really
Speaker 1: far and let him kick extra points from like at
Speaker 1: least fifty yards, or option two, bring in another kicker
Speaker 1: and the day that that always happens in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's a little different with a weird weekend. But Tuesday's
Speaker 1: a like a day you can try out another kicker,
Speaker 1: So we record this on Tuesdays. We don't know yet
Speaker 1: if that is the case, but if I were the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I would say, Brett, we're not giving up on you.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna replace you or kick you off the team,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. We're not gonna waive you. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna have you handle field goals and we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: in an extra point guy and a perfect person I
Speaker 1: think of who I actually just saw in person recently
Speaker 1: at the SEC Championship is Rodrigo Blankenship, NFL kicker, kind
Speaker 1: of journeyman. He's with the Colts most notably for a
Speaker 1: long time. He's out of a job. He kicks some
Speaker 1: extra points very nicely so because he's a Georgia bulldog
Speaker 1: and I'm rooting for him. He's the guy in the
Speaker 1: glasses they call specs. I like him. So Cowboys bringing
Speaker 1: a guy like broad Blankenship and tell Brett take a breather,
Speaker 1: just handle some of these field goals and don't let
Speaker 1: the yips get to you on extra points? What do
Speaker 1: you think of those options? You know what I say? Preach? Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone's still loves making them feel extra points harder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just keep making them harder. Love losing out on
Speaker 1: an over bet because of for missed extra points, but yeah,
Speaker 1: keep making them harder. Oh man, Okay, Well, now that
Speaker 1: we've both unleashed, I think we feel a couple of
Speaker 1: pounds lighter. We can breathe a little deeper. So now
Speaker 1: it's time to get to our audible of the week.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think it's only right we
Speaker 1: give our Audible the week to Racian Jenkins, the Jacksonville safety.
Speaker 1: They might have jaguars on their helmets, but he compared
Speaker 1: of the team to an insect. And I'm gonna remember
Speaker 1: it when I see him this weekend. Take a lesson.
Speaker 1: I look at us like a bunch of cock roaches,
Speaker 1: like we can't be killed. We cannot be killed. We're
Speaker 1: gonna fight you too, say zero zero zero zero on o'clock.
Speaker 1: So next up for the Jacksonville Cockroaches are the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, so that is going to be so much fun.
Speaker 1: Peter Andrews coming up on later on the show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see if he thinks this game will be close.
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned earlier, it's the biggest spread of the weekend,
Speaker 1: so Vegas certainly doesn't think so. But we'll see if
Speaker 1: bet MGM betting expert or analyst. Depends how good he's
Speaker 1: done Peter Andrew thinks about that one. Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get to our interview because we have a
Speaker 1: really good one this week. Someone to handle all of
Speaker 1: the rigamarow in the league, someone who knows it so well.
Speaker 1: Professor of law. He also writes for SI dot Com.
Speaker 1: Let's bring in Andrew brant Um. Well, now we welcome
Speaker 1: back in Andrew Brand, so excited a recurring guest. We
Speaker 1: don't have many of those. You've got to be really
Speaker 1: spectacular to get us back. Andrew Brand, of course, long
Speaker 1: time NFL executive, and he was at the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers when my grandpa was also there, so Andrew. Right
Speaker 1: before we were recording, you said you had a story
Speaker 1: for me, and I think that's a good place to start. Okay, Olivia,
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with that. Now it's a little bit
Speaker 1: it's a little bit r rated, but that's all right. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure it has to do with my grandpa.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I do any here are rated
Speaker 1: dealing with Bob Harlan and your grandpa. You know, when
Speaker 1: you're on an NFL team email list, there's also access
Speaker 1: to all NFL employees. There's access to all NFL presidents,
Speaker 1: there's access to all NFL capologists, all NFL gms. Anyway,
Speaker 1: there was a day where sitting around the office one
Speaker 1: day and a video comes across sent to Actually it
Speaker 1: was sent not sent to me, it was sent to
Speaker 1: all presidents. So all team presidents received this video and
Speaker 1: it was a how else can I say it? A pornography.
Speaker 1: So someone had told our president, Bob Harley, your grandfather,
Speaker 1: that some other president said have you seen this? Bob?
Speaker 1: And he was scared to death to open it. So
Speaker 1: he called me up. He said, Andrew. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: a tech whiz, but I think I had enough status
Speaker 1: that maybe I should see this. So I come up
Speaker 1: there and I he says, what, I say, what's up?
Speaker 1: He says, I don't want to open this. Can you
Speaker 1: open it and just look at it? But I don't
Speaker 1: want to look at it. I don't want to look
Speaker 1: at He's like, I said, well, what is it? He said, well,
Speaker 1: I just heard from the president of this team and
Speaker 1: he said this has gone around and it's it's pornography
Speaker 1: and someone sent it by accident. I said, do you
Speaker 1: want me to look at it? He goes, yeah, how
Speaker 1: want you look at it? Are you sure? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't let me look at it. I said, okay.
Speaker 1: So I opened it and it's not important what it was,
Speaker 1: but it was hardcore pornography and I clicked out and
Speaker 1: he says, that what I think it is. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: not looking at it. I said, yes, you're not erase it.
Speaker 1: I said, I raced it. It's gone. It's so a
Speaker 1: an offensive line coach, I won't even tell you what
Speaker 1: team because I don't think I want to bring the
Speaker 1: team into it. An offensive line coach had accidentally hit
Speaker 1: all team presidents when he was just trying to send
Speaker 1: this to a buddy somewhere, maybe even in the same team.
Speaker 1: And needless to say, that line coach was severely disciplined
Speaker 1: by not only his team but by the league, because
Speaker 1: every team president was calling the league like, what is this? What?
Speaker 1: How could this guy do this? Do you know if
Speaker 1: that guy steals a job? I don't think so, okay,
Speaker 1: And I don't think he had a job for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks after that. That was because we were
Speaker 1: talking about sort of technology and as we came on
Speaker 1: this show and leave fixing my camera, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you want to hear story, erase it and you erase it.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite race. There's no erasing anything anymore, sir, Sorry, sir,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well this was kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. And uh, as I told you before
Speaker 1: coming on, your grandfather, Bob Plan every morning would have
Speaker 1: that Milwaukee Journal spread out on his desk. At that
Speaker 1: time there was the internet we were reading over. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he just wanted to read that hard copy Milwaukee Journal.
Speaker 1: That was his morning routine. Oh that is such a
Speaker 1: good story. That is such a good story. Okay, Jerry,
Speaker 1: it's hard to pivot from portograph. Okay, moving moving on
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some football. I thought it was
Speaker 1: an wonderful weekend of football in terms of just sheer entertainment.
Speaker 1: On paper, A lot of people about these wild card
Speaker 1: games maybe wouldn't be as competitive. There anything that surprised
Speaker 1: you or you know, just stuck out to you. Most
Speaker 1: of this wild card weekend, there was so much to unpack.
Speaker 1: Every every game had their own storyline. Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to know what stands out. I think we'll start sort
Speaker 1: of backwards because last night. I'm not a prognosticator, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a business expert. I study that side of it,
Speaker 1: so I'm not the guy to pick games. But I
Speaker 1: just thought the Cowboys would roll last night. I thought
Speaker 1: that Tampa was the worst team in the playoffs. That's
Speaker 1: the worst division in football. And they've just been broken
Speaker 1: all year except for like four or five drives at
Speaker 1: the end of games by Brady. He hasn't looked happy.
Speaker 1: The team looks broken. They don't run the ball, they
Speaker 1: don't they just don't have it this year for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: You know, they were a great team two years ago,
Speaker 1: they were a good team last year. They're just not it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it says a lot about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: unfortunately for Cowboys fans, because I think that's a poor team.
Speaker 1: The other things that stand out to me are Buffalo
Speaker 1: is still not right, and it took just all those
Speaker 1: misques by the Dolphins in terms of getting a snap
Speaker 1: off and doing that to beat them, you know, in
Speaker 1: it's in a close game. So we all sort of
Speaker 1: fall in love with Buffalo and the big arm of
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and of course the wonderful story we'll talk
Speaker 1: about with Hamlin. But I just don't think they're right either.
Speaker 1: And then you know, if Lamar Jackson played, I think
Speaker 1: the Ravens win that game. So the a f C
Speaker 1: is kind of up in the air. I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the wild card weekend, I come out
Speaker 1: of it thinking the two teams that did not play
Speaker 1: are more favorites than I thought going into the weekend.
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles will I'm sorry, I know your
Speaker 1: Giants fan, Jerry. I think the Eagles will have a
Speaker 1: good result this weekend, and I think they can beat
Speaker 1: the forty Niners at home. And I think the same
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs no matter where the championship game is.
Speaker 1: So I come out of the how wild card weekend
Speaker 1: some surprises, but I'm more firm on those two teams
Speaker 1: that got the bias getting to the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: want to pick up what you said about Brock Purty,
Speaker 1: who has just been kind of the darling of this
Speaker 1: NFL season. Now, do you feel like that many teams
Speaker 1: got it wrong by not drafting this kid or is
Speaker 1: this just kind of a a lucky coincidence. A lot
Speaker 1: of things are falling in the right way. Yeah, coaching matters.
Speaker 1: He hasn't wonderful coaching staff. Shanahan has done wonders with
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at all levels, and he does have a moxi
Speaker 1: about him that is that is rare for I was
Speaker 1: picking the round for seventh round pick. You know, we
Speaker 1: all and I think we meaning people in the business,
Speaker 1: are waiting for that Cinderella moment from him, or I
Speaker 1: guess the opposite of Cinderella where he goes back to Earth.
Speaker 1: It wasn't this weekend. It may not be against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of picking it's going to be against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. The curious thing Olivia about the Forts,
Speaker 1: and I've tweeted this the past few weeks, is that
Speaker 1: they do seem like a offense that can win with
Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks, that can win with quarterbacks that are coached
Speaker 1: up of course Garoppolo and now Purdy, which makes it
Speaker 1: all more curious why they mortgage the future for Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: And Trey Lance may be a great player, but they
Speaker 1: traded not one, not too but really three first round
Speaker 1: picks to get Trey Lance. So No. Two things. Number One,
Speaker 1: looking at it from a business point of view, he
Speaker 1: has to be their quarterback. Is he's healthy and I
Speaker 1: know Purty, I know Purty, I know Purty, but he
Speaker 1: has to be that quarterback. And number two is if
Speaker 1: he's not the player that they thought he could be,
Speaker 1: that's a problem because obviously they don't have a first
Speaker 1: round pick last year and they're on one this year,
Speaker 1: and that's all due to him. That's such an interesting
Speaker 1: point because let's assume for a second, say Brock Purty
Speaker 1: even advances one more round, so he gets the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game and that's that and loses. That would be
Speaker 1: his first loss in however many games. Now, so now
Speaker 1: you're going into the off season with two rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 1: soon to be second year quarterbacks on rookie deals once
Speaker 1: hurt one just had this great run. Can you also
Speaker 1: in like give Trey Lance the full shot? Knowing if
Speaker 1: let's say they Lance is healthy and all right, we
Speaker 1: gave up a lot of capital and they got brock
Speaker 1: Purty on the bench sitting there coming off this great run.
Speaker 1: It just seems like it would be potentially, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe they make it work, but it's maybe a good
Speaker 1: bad good situation with drawbacks. Like you're saying, Trey Lance, though,
Speaker 1: should not lose his job for injury. Well, I think
Speaker 1: they gave every opportunity to start, and they did start
Speaker 1: him this year to get hurt. So do you lose
Speaker 1: your job to an injury? It's basically was his job.
Speaker 1: And then he lost to Garoppolo do injury, and then
Speaker 1: I just think at worst it goes into a competition
Speaker 1: next year between the two of them. But jeez, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is where maybe I'm too much a business guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you give up three ones versus the
Speaker 1: last pick in the draft a lot, you sort of
Speaker 1: gotta go with Lance no matter how pretty plays. Right now, well,
Speaker 1: one of the most talked about quarterbacks is one who
Speaker 1: wasn't even playing this weekend Lamar Jackson. I know we've
Speaker 1: asked you about him before. So prior to the game,
Speaker 1: he tweeted out an update on his PCL injury. After
Speaker 1: the game, he posted a very cryptic message on his
Speaker 1: Instagram and despite the injury, he wasn't there. We know
Speaker 1: he's been around the building. Teammates are vouching for him,
Speaker 1: saying he's he's really hurt, he's hobbling. Former players are tweeting,
Speaker 1: you can't just ask a guy to put a boot on,
Speaker 1: like Robert Griffin posted his career ending injury saying, everyone
Speaker 1: just told me strap up, put a put a brace
Speaker 1: on everything. So what do you read into Lamar's I
Speaker 1: don't even want to say decision not to play, but
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't play and now there are
Speaker 1: seasons over. You know, it's been the most curious contract
Speaker 1: negotiation for not one not to probably three years and Olivia.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. We can only guess whether he
Speaker 1: would have played if he was under contract, right, that's
Speaker 1: a big question for me. What do you have played
Speaker 1: this game? Maybe a game before, maybe three games before.
Speaker 1: Who knows? Were he under contract with security. I've talked
Speaker 1: to you, as you said about this before. The thing
Speaker 1: that complicates at all is Deshaun Watson's deal. As everyone knows,
Speaker 1: it's the best deal in history. It's fully secured five years,
Speaker 1: unlike most big time NFL deals, which are one or
Speaker 1: two years guaranteed, and then the rest is kind of
Speaker 1: up to the team. And I think I'm not part
Speaker 1: of the negotiation that he asked for that over and
Speaker 1: over again as his own agent and was rebuffed, and
Speaker 1: he chose to play without a contract. The problem for him,
Speaker 1: and in some ways the problem for the Ravens if
Speaker 1: he if this is would happened the past couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: is the tag. So he can't really bet on himself
Speaker 1: because he's going to be tagged and then maybe he'll
Speaker 1: be traded and tagged, or maybe he'll get a deal.
Speaker 1: But right now, you know I said this in August,
Speaker 1: I said the best thing for Lamar financially would to
Speaker 1: do something that makes them not want to tag him,
Speaker 1: because if they don't tag him, then he's out there
Speaker 1: and he's the best free agent out there bar none,
Speaker 1: and he'll get a huge deal like Watson. But when
Speaker 1: you're negotiating only with one team, the Ravens, I don't
Speaker 1: know where that's going to go because they have the
Speaker 1: ultimate weapon of putting the tag on him. I don't
Speaker 1: know the injury status. You know, there are people that
Speaker 1: suggest he was whatever, but I'm not going to put
Speaker 1: that on a player. I'm not gonna put that he's hurt,
Speaker 1: so he's not playing. I don't know why it wasn't
Speaker 1: there there was a report he was sick. So well,
Speaker 1: the question now would be would it be an exclusive
Speaker 1: franchise tag or a non exclusive tag where someone can
Speaker 1: grab them like you alluded to? Yeah, and those then
Speaker 1: to clear up for the listeners. Exclusive means, well, let's go.
Speaker 1: Non exclusive means you can get them for two number
Speaker 1: ones or something you work out if you have an
Speaker 1: offer sheet into them. Exclusive means you're totally off the
Speaker 1: market and the price is different. So the exclusive tag
Speaker 1: would be forty plus million, Non exclusive will be thirty
Speaker 1: plus low thirties. Probably, we'll see if there's a possibility
Speaker 1: of potentially trading him in their mind the Ravens, they'll
Speaker 1: put the non exclusive on. If there's no way in
Speaker 1: God's green Earth they want him to be with another team,
Speaker 1: trade or otherwise, they'll put the exclusive on they'll make
Speaker 1: it work. Cap wise, that would be an interesting thing
Speaker 1: to watch. But again, before all that, before that happens
Speaker 1: in mid February, they will try to negotiate. I would
Speaker 1: think I don't see this negotiation going many places, because
Speaker 1: everyone asked me what I would do. Now, suppose that
Speaker 1: he was offered just put a number on a hundred
Speaker 1: thirty three million guaranteed, with a two plus million the
Speaker 1: rest of it, of course not guaranteed, and everyone asks
Speaker 1: what would I have done with that offer? I would
Speaker 1: have said to the Ravens, Okay, I'll take the one
Speaker 1: thirty three over three years and end it there. In
Speaker 1: that way, the Ravens could say we didn't go five
Speaker 1: years like Watson. There's been a precedent for three years
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed with Kirk Cousins. And if I would have
Speaker 1: represented him, I would have said that, and the Ravens
Speaker 1: probably would have said no. But I think Lamar just
Speaker 1: got upset with him and said I'll just play it out.
Speaker 1: And again he's playing it out with the tag ahead
Speaker 1: of him, So that's tough, all right. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to do this to you. We talked about the Giants earlier.
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the show, watching that Giants game,
Speaker 1: I felt like we could have had a running tally
Speaker 1: of the money Daniel Jones might have been making with
Speaker 1: re rushing, yard and completion. This was a guy who
Speaker 1: in preseason a lot of the fans and media will
Speaker 1: call for Tyrod Taylor to maybe get some starting reps
Speaker 1: and it seeing I mean, I don't think it's crazy
Speaker 1: to say he gets an extension. I just does that
Speaker 1: extension now look different to you? Does the playoff game
Speaker 1: factor in more? Because I think it's been the whole
Speaker 1: year of a body of work. He's had a great
Speaker 1: year for where he was, but it seems like it's
Speaker 1: keeping it's continuing to elevate. So does the fact that
Speaker 1: he did it in a playoff game, you know, on
Speaker 1: the other side of things factor and more to what
Speaker 1: this or is this the sort of thing where extension
Speaker 1: the extension will be what it's going to be playoffs
Speaker 1: or not. You know, I'm I'm not impartial when I
Speaker 1: talk about say Aaron Rodgers, and I'm not impartial talking
Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones. I love this kid. I mean, so listen,
Speaker 1: you know, I have multiple, multiple gigs. What I did
Speaker 1: for a couple of years you heard of Gary V.
Speaker 1: I g V Big Jets guy, Big Jets guy. I know.
Speaker 1: Gary started a sports agency his brother A J. And
Speaker 1: I consulted with him for a couple of years, trying
Speaker 1: to get them going, teaching them about the business. They
Speaker 1: have a young agent called Brandon Parker. Brandon's father, Eugene
Speaker 1: was a mentor to me, and Eugene passed away a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, so it was a real court
Speaker 1: of giving back. We tried and got this close, this
Speaker 1: close to signing Daniel Jones. Got to know him very well,
Speaker 1: got to know his family well, and Charlotte talked to
Speaker 1: his dad almost every day for a while, and we
Speaker 1: almost had him. Everyone wanted to be with Gary V,
Speaker 1: but no one trusted because they hadn't ever done football.
Speaker 1: And I said, I'll do it. You know, I'm the guy,
Speaker 1: so I can help bring some credibility and gravitas. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Daniel just went with C. A. A.
Speaker 1: You know, Peyton and Elirah Colin and Matthew Stafford. It's
Speaker 1: just it was tough. We lost Daniel Jones by that much,
Speaker 1: but in the process got to know him a lot.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal with Daniel. There's no middle ground with
Speaker 1: quarterbacks anymore. And I've sort of lamented this. You either
Speaker 1: have rookie quarterbacks making pick a number five million a
Speaker 1: year like Herbert or Burrow, but then you have veterans
Speaker 1: making thirty fifty million a year. So where's the middle ground?
Speaker 1: There really hasn't been one. Then there's another level of
Speaker 1: backups making eight to ten million. I thought that Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is going to be this new middle one. Now
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the upper end of middle.
Speaker 1: So I thought, here's a guy that should make million
Speaker 1: a year. Now is that up there with the recent
Speaker 1: trend of quarterbacks. No, not Kyler Murray, not Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Now I think it'd be closer to thirty.
Speaker 1: And the thing is that, as you know Jerry, it's
Speaker 1: got to be that team like, what are they gonna
Speaker 1: do with They're gonna go get another quarterback, So I
Speaker 1: don't think they let him get to the market. So
Speaker 1: without landing to get to the market, they've got to
Speaker 1: step it up because once he gets to the market,
Speaker 1: you know, then anything can happen. So I think instead
Speaker 1: of million, now I'm looking at sort of thirty two
Speaker 1: million a year for him. I would think I would
Speaker 1: assigned with you, Andrew, just putting it out there, I
Speaker 1: would assigned with you in two seconds, signed with you
Speaker 1: in two seconds until the Manning brothers stop calling me guy.
Speaker 1: Danny j Alone, Yeah, yeah, I actually covered him at
Speaker 1: Duke a lot and got to know his family and
Speaker 1: interviewed him a couple of times over the phone and
Speaker 1: was so impressed. They're all like d one athletes are
Speaker 1: a superpressive Yeah. I wanted to ask you about a
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback whose future may be unknown, and that's Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: Obviously I could have said a bunch of names right there,
Speaker 1: but Derek Car I'm curious about as you look around
Speaker 1: the league and who has need, who's got the money,
Speaker 1: what he might be demanding, where do you see Derek
Speaker 1: carfinding I don't know. I mean, I think a bigger answer,
Speaker 1: Olivia is that there. We just talked about a couple
Speaker 1: of them. There's this is the biggest quarterback market I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in terms of established and there's always the
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's and Josh McCown's out there, but these this
Speaker 1: is the biggest group I've ever seen of kind of
Speaker 1: names like real quarterbacks, car which I'll get back to
Speaker 1: in a second, Garoppolo, Jones if he makes it to market,
Speaker 1: Lamar if he makes it to market, Brady, and then
Speaker 1: of course rather Aaron ever leaves Green Bay. So there's
Speaker 1: a big group out there, and you've got five I hear,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe four or five first round quarterbacks adding
Speaker 1: to that mix. So it's gonna be like musical chairs.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be left out. So I wonder if it's
Speaker 1: going to be carved, it's gonna be Garoppolo, somebody's going
Speaker 1: to be left out. I don't know what happened in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I mean one week he's starting, the next week he's
Speaker 1: basically off the team, not getting in Stidham's way, and
Speaker 1: then he's like, you know, tweeting about I'm going somewhere else.
Speaker 1: So it's a contract situation as well. Will a new
Speaker 1: team take on that big number? And if not, are
Speaker 1: they gonna be negotiations for a lower number? You know,
Speaker 1: you look at the usual suspects. You're gonna look at Jets,
Speaker 1: You're gonna look at Panthers, You're gonna look at all
Speaker 1: these other teams. Is Seattle going to resign? Gino? Where
Speaker 1: are we going to be with all this? Like I said,
Speaker 1: you're going to run out of spots? And even Tom
Speaker 1: Brady like where are these guys gonna land? When teams
Speaker 1: might decide to go young, Jared's Stidham played well, he's
Speaker 1: a free agent, you know. It's like, we gotta see
Speaker 1: all these things. Now. Derek Carr is a well known
Speaker 1: product and he'll give you some stability, But are you
Speaker 1: going to make a big investment to him be a starter?
Speaker 1: Is he that level anymore? That's what teams are gonna
Speaker 1: be asking themselves. Well, and they gave him his guy.
Speaker 1: They gave him Davante Adams and it and it did
Speaker 1: at work and they that set the wide receiver market
Speaker 1: on fire as we knew this past number. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I'm very curious to see where Derek lands. That
Speaker 1: was the story of the offseason as we talked about
Speaker 1: the wide receiver market. One only Davante and Tyree, but
Speaker 1: the young guys A J. Brown, Deebo, Samuel, dk Metcalf,
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, those were that really up the market. And
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what market jumps like
Speaker 1: that this next off season. Do you have a prediction
Speaker 1: as as you're speaking about that, Well, one's been completely
Speaker 1: devalued as we know running back, but there's two or
Speaker 1: three out there that. I mean, you have Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: and Josh Jacobs as free agents. Now, if anyone's going
Speaker 1: to change the running back market, I would think it'd
Speaker 1: be one of the two of those two guys because
Speaker 1: they both can bring stability of that position, Like is
Speaker 1: it going to be Christian McCaffrey number And I didn't
Speaker 1: you mentioned Barkley. Sorry, Jerry, you know he's out there too.
Speaker 1: So those three running backs, we're gonna see how that
Speaker 1: shakes it. So whatever it is, I think that will
Speaker 1: take a jump that market as well. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is the closest the NFL will be coming
Speaker 1: to replicating like an NBA off season with how crazy
Speaker 1: we all watch player movements where they're flying to Because
Speaker 1: now you even factor in how much does the Bears
Speaker 1: sort of stealing that number one overall pick with the
Speaker 1: Texans winning, because you know, you gotta imagine that picks
Speaker 1: on the market, right, they don't need a quarterback, they
Speaker 1: have to be looking to double up first round picks.
Speaker 1: So I just think this NFL offseason is going to
Speaker 1: be the craziest that fans have ever seen. I think
Speaker 1: every team is at play with something with the move
Speaker 1: to make yeah, because we have to see what the
Speaker 1: key dominoes on the cornerback side or our Brady and
Speaker 1: Rogers and see what happens with them. Hopefully we'll know
Speaker 1: that within the next three or four weeks and then
Speaker 1: see where that goes. And like we just talked about,
Speaker 1: these these really positive names on the running back market
Speaker 1: that are young and ascending, and then the free the
Speaker 1: draft market with quarterbacks, It's going to be really interesting
Speaker 1: how teams shake out. And the trend has been sort
Speaker 1: of teams to build young. That's why I wonder about
Speaker 1: a market for Tom Brady and even Aaron Rodgers if
Speaker 1: he's on the trade market. I just think we see
Speaker 1: teams kind of moving away from let's try to bring
Speaker 1: in the one year plan. And part of that is
Speaker 1: what happened to this To the Rams, it's been an implosion.
Speaker 1: And I know every Rams fan, if there are any,
Speaker 1: will say, it's worth it. It's worth it, It's worth it,
Speaker 1: It's worth it. We've won the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But that team is old, and that team
Speaker 1: is cap strapped, and that team has no depth. That's
Speaker 1: a real problem right now. I know you still have
Speaker 1: friends in Green Bay, and I know you know Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: So when you see his comments after that final game
Speaker 1: of money is energy, I don't mind passing up on money.
Speaker 1: He's setting that he would walk away. What do you
Speaker 1: read between the lines, Well, let's set it up for
Speaker 1: your listeners. I mean, he is under contract with a
Speaker 1: fifty nine, let's say, sixty million guarantees, so it's it's
Speaker 1: set up weird where it's an option but they have
Speaker 1: until the season exercise, etcetera. The bottom line is he
Speaker 1: has that coming to him. Willie walk away from that?
Speaker 1: It's life changing wealth. As we know that. A couple
Speaker 1: of things I've said this. Number one, he's a different cat.
Speaker 1: We all know that. Is he that different to walk
Speaker 1: away from sixty million dollars? Probably not? But number two,
Speaker 1: there's a middle ground that I and your grandfather Olivia
Speaker 1: know so well. In two thousand eight, Brett, after retiring,
Speaker 1: came back and wanted to play, and we had turned
Speaker 1: the team over to Aaron, and we didn't want to trade,
Speaker 1: and we wanted him to retire all these if you remember,
Speaker 1: it was so messy, there was an offer made and
Speaker 1: I was not part of us, but I know it
Speaker 1: was made for Brett to stay retired and to be
Speaker 1: a team ambassador for what was probably around twenty million dollars. Now,
Speaker 1: is that a path for Aaron? Is there a path
Speaker 1: where they say, Aaron, you're parting gift as you walk
Speaker 1: into zen retirement. Is pick a number thirty million dollars
Speaker 1: half of what you could make if you stay in
Speaker 1: place somewhere, either here or somewhere else. So, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's time to first separation where the
Speaker 1: symmetry would be amazing. Right, fifteen years to the day
Speaker 1: after we took Aaron in the first round where we
Speaker 1: had a Hall of Fame quarterback, they took Jordan's Love
Speaker 1: in the first round where they had a whole Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback. They would have both served now three
Speaker 1: years apprenticeship. It seems like the time to turn the
Speaker 1: team over to Love. I don't know if they will.
Speaker 1: You have this commitment they made last year of sixty
Speaker 1: million guaranteed, so one other technical nerdy thing about this contract.
Speaker 1: It's the only contract you've ever seen where the dead
Speaker 1: money goes up, not down, up the longer plays. It's
Speaker 1: it's a weird structure. What do you mean dead money?
Speaker 1: Dead money means money counting on your cap after separation.
Speaker 1: And we're in a different age. You know, in my day,
Speaker 1: I would never want like more than ten million dead
Speaker 1: money on my cap for one person, meaning a non
Speaker 1: roster player. But two years ago it was Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: thirty four million on the Eagles cap when they moved
Speaker 1: him to Indianapolis. Last year forty million on the Falcons
Speaker 1: cap while Matt Ryan played for the Colts. So this
Speaker 1: number for Aaron would be forty million. So you've got
Speaker 1: two hurdles. You've got Would the Packers take on forty
Speaker 1: million and we're in the new age? Maybe would they
Speaker 1: somehow figure out a way to not paying sixty but
Speaker 1: paying something else. We'll see if they want to move
Speaker 1: to Love But we still don't know. That very intriguing
Speaker 1: before we let you go this weekend we won't speak
Speaker 1: about in a sense of picks and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: but what game this weekend just intrigued you? The most
Speaker 1: from a business standard, from just storylines. What game are
Speaker 1: you most intrigued about this weekend? Well again, personal? I
Speaker 1: love Doug Peterson. He was our backup in Green Bay
Speaker 1: before Aaron for several years and he was such a
Speaker 1: positive influence. And people have talked about his interview at
Speaker 1: halftime the other day where he just you know, they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, basically saying him, you just had the worst
Speaker 1: half in the history of the playoffs. What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? And he was very positive. That's that was Doug.
Speaker 1: That's my experience with Doug. And when we drafted Aaron,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit you know, frosty with Aaron
Speaker 1: and Brett. You know, you had Mississippi country and California
Speaker 1: cool and it was just kind of him. So I
Speaker 1: called who'd I call to be the calming voice in
Speaker 1: the room? I called Doug Peterson. Doug, we need you back.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, Andrew, I'm retired. I'm like, no, Doug,
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm co he was coaching high school.
Speaker 1: I said, we'll fly back Friday nights. Whatever. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. I said, I need you million dollars. No,
Speaker 1: I'm done million five. I finally got him, Oh you did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got him that one year when we had him Aaron,
Speaker 1: and I mean it was just like, he's such a comment.
Speaker 1: He was Brett's best friend, he was Brett's counselor, was
Speaker 1: Brett's coach on the field, Brett's golf partner. He's just
Speaker 1: so I'm a big fan. I obviously saw what he
Speaker 1: did in Philly as a coach, so it's great to
Speaker 1: see him. You know, he comes up as a huge
Speaker 1: underdog to the Chiefs. But I I'm not saying and
Speaker 1: I think the wind, but I think they'll surprise people
Speaker 1: because he knows Andy Reids so well. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: they're joined at the hip for years. I also want
Speaker 1: to see Jalen Hurts back to what I hope for
Speaker 1: his sake is full speed. I think that team, as
Speaker 1: I referenced earlier in the pod, I think they're loaded.
Speaker 1: I think this has been the Eagles years since October,
Speaker 1: We've all kind of been living in it. They're stacked
Speaker 1: at every position, and Hurts has been a revelation. They're
Speaker 1: fourteen and one when he starts. It's just an amazing
Speaker 1: season for a young guy. Second round pick that they
Speaker 1: drafted to be a backup for Carson Wentz, and as
Speaker 1: I talked about earlier, I just I want to see
Speaker 1: the Bills like I want to see them play solid.
Speaker 1: They're just they're frenetic. Josh Allen's all over the place.
Speaker 1: This is going to be obviously the emotional matchup that
Speaker 1: was happening during the injury Burrow fan, but I also
Speaker 1: think Burrows limited because offensive line injuries and then the
Speaker 1: last game. Dallas has the talent. Dalla us is extremely talented.
Speaker 1: I know there's McCaffrey, and I know there's Debo and
Speaker 1: all that, but Dallas defense gets after it. They've got
Speaker 1: great skill positions on offense. They've got that great offensive line.
Speaker 1: So would not be surprised with the Dallas upset as
Speaker 1: everyone loves the forty Niners. I get it, but Dallas
Speaker 1: is loaded to talent. Wives So in short, you're intrigued
Speaker 1: by every matchet. I'm a football man. You know it's
Speaker 1: only sweat six games, seven games left, so listen. I
Speaker 1: always expect to learn something from you when you come
Speaker 1: on the pod, but I did not expect to learn
Speaker 1: today was Doug Peterson was involved with Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: Brett Varve just and now that's a great story. I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people know that. I'm gonna now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend time on the internet trying to find
Speaker 1: pictures of the three of them in uniform together. You know,
Speaker 1: I used to call Doug every year because we could
Speaker 1: never get We could never get back up quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: Green Yea. You know they all say, what, why would
Speaker 1: I come there? I'll never play. They come, it's cold,
Speaker 1: and my family doesn't want to go there. And I
Speaker 1: would say, listen, please, please, please, And then I called
Speaker 1: Doug and he'd go, how many guys you call this year?
Speaker 1: I see three or four? He goes all right, and
Speaker 1: then we do a contract in five minutes. No agent.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was And then you see it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a expert on the coaching, but I just
Speaker 1: saw him like in those rooms, he just saw things
Speaker 1: that other players didn't. He was perfect guy to have
Speaker 1: as a backup. And you see players around the league,
Speaker 1: I know, you see this, whether it's Chase Daniel or
Speaker 1: Matt Castle or Chad Henny that just make a great
Speaker 1: living doing this. That was Doug Peterson. They just they
Speaker 1: have this knack they make now instead of a million
Speaker 1: a year, they're making eight million a year and they
Speaker 1: just like serve the starter in ways. They're so great
Speaker 1: for that player. Makes sense that he's a good coach,
Speaker 1: makes sense now, Yeah, I love Hey, you're making up.
Speaker 1: You're making twenty grand coaching high school football and me
Speaker 1: off for you a million five and I'll even fly
Speaker 1: you back. And he's like, I'm retiring, Andrew. Awesome story.
Speaker 1: Every year. Every year I'm negotiating, gets myself like, please,
Speaker 1: how much more you need? No, I'm done, I'm done.
Speaker 1: He was a great. Oh that's great, Andrew, you were
Speaker 1: fantastic again. I don't know the three pet coming up?
Speaker 1: Do you want to come on a third time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean put me on and give me points for
Speaker 1: a free free free at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: There you go. And thank you for protecting my precious,
Speaker 1: sweet Catholic grandfather's eyes from the evils of PA. And
Speaker 1: he's still, as far as I know, has never looked
Speaker 1: at something like that. As far as I know, that's true.
Speaker 1: Thank you Andrew so much. You could follow him on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Andrew Brandt. We appreciate you coming on. Okay,
Speaker 1: I finally got to it, this episode that I have
Speaker 1: long awaited. I've heard so much about it, Jerry, he said,
Speaker 1: it is one of the most asked about episodes of Entourage,
Speaker 1: and it's the Tom Brady episode. You guys are playing golf.
Speaker 1: Tell me what TV twelve was like. Look, not not
Speaker 1: that he needs any more adoration from anyone in the world,
Speaker 1: but I do have to say, and even that's a
Speaker 1: Giants fan, he was awesome. You know. He came in
Speaker 1: on short notice. That episode was originally written by Doug
Speaker 1: Allen for Peyton and Eli Manning long before the Manning cast,
Speaker 1: and they asked to come on. So this is one
Speaker 1: of the situations where there are people call they wanted
Speaker 1: to do something on the show. Doug goes off and
Speaker 1: comes up with something for the Mannings, knowing they play golf.
Speaker 1: That's probably the only reason why it was a golf episode.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the reasons were, but like
Speaker 1: two three weeks before they pulled out, script was already written.
Speaker 1: We were getting ready to shoot in two weeks. That's
Speaker 1: a disaster production wise. So this is where having Mark
Speaker 1: Wahlberg as your executive producer. Everyone always says, how involved
Speaker 1: was Mark very involved because Mark says, after the Mannings
Speaker 1: drop out, he says, you know, do you want me
Speaker 1: to get Tom? And I'll do it with Tom. And
Speaker 1: we're like, who are you talking? Like Tom? Tom? Who
Speaker 1: Tom Arnold? He's like, no, Tom Brady, Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: called Tom Brady if you could do that, And within
Speaker 1: two weeks Tom Brady was on set. This was the
Speaker 1: year he was coming off the injury to your Kansas
Speaker 1: City chief. Someone rolled up on his knee, if you remember. So,
Speaker 1: no one's seen him played football in a long time.
Speaker 1: No one's seen him in general in a long time.
Speaker 1: And he rolled up five o'clock in the morning at
Speaker 1: Industry Hills Golf Course in l A and hype. The
Speaker 1: drive three yards down the fairway on the opening hall
Speaker 1: couldn't have been cool. Or he signed a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff for the crew and just genuinely seemed happy to
Speaker 1: be there and um, yeah to say all this insulting
Speaker 1: stuff as my character to him, and he had the
Speaker 1: best sense of humor about it. So it was awesome.
Speaker 1: And I get asked about that episode, it's up there
Speaker 1: for sure. So it was the off season then, what
Speaker 1: time of years? Yeah, it was the off season, this
Speaker 1: is in the this is uh like late spring. I
Speaker 1: want to say, this is like May or June. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he was he This was probably like the last thing
Speaker 1: he did before he reported to camp coming off the
Speaker 1: injury for a year. So yeah, No, so many times
Speaker 1: you want to say Kobe Bryant on the show. But
Speaker 1: if they're in season, obviously these guys aren't doing every
Speaker 1: now and then we get a visiting player in l
Speaker 1: A quickly, But no, it was off season for Brady.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I wonder did he have a house in
Speaker 1: l A. Or did he fly in just for the episode.
Speaker 1: I think he just flew in for the episode. I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure. You know. I was a little nervous
Speaker 1: about having tell like or at least want to tell
Speaker 1: him that he sucks balls like as my character does,
Speaker 1: like I said, and then yeah, like, I have giants
Speaker 1: head cover. I still have those Giants head covers in
Speaker 1: my golf bat. I still those are my head covers
Speaker 1: to this day. I will never, hopefully never lose them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just had the greatest sense of humor
Speaker 1: about it, and it was really cool. He just stepped up.
Speaker 1: So I know, you have a ton of memorabilia behind you,
Speaker 1: like we can see the movie posters and stuff. Did
Speaker 1: Tom sign something for you? Do you have like a
Speaker 1: framed signed jersey or No, I don't have. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask for any signature, as I'm weird about that stuff.
Speaker 1: But there's a great picture that you can't see because
Speaker 1: it's on the wall I'm facing and I don't want
Speaker 1: to move my camera, but I'll show take a picture
Speaker 1: of it. But it's of all of us. It's it's me, Adrian,
Speaker 1: Kevin Dale, Connolly Wallberg, Doug Allen, and Brady in the
Speaker 1: middle looking like Vince, looking like the real Vince in
Speaker 1: that photo. And he's also eight inches taller than everybody
Speaker 1: in the photo. Yeah. No. And in the episode, he
Speaker 1: invites you and Jamie in over for dinner and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: g ll cooks, you should come. It's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: which made me kind of sad. Obviously now they're divorced.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, but this listen and that
Speaker 1: whole sucks balls line, which wasn't in the script when
Speaker 1: it was Peyton and Eli because Doug leaned into the
Speaker 1: fact that my character was a Giants fan. So to
Speaker 1: get that line, I was in Doug's office. It was
Speaker 1: like a Sunday night. He shouldn't even been there, and
Speaker 1: he's trying to fix this script now that it's Brady
Speaker 1: and Wahlberg, you know, all this extra work and we're
Speaker 1: talking through some stuff and he's like, well, what would
Speaker 1: you I don't know, we need a line here for
Speaker 1: what would your character say to Brady. He's like, call
Speaker 1: your biggest you know, your biggest giant fan friend Backham Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Get him on the phone. So I called my buddy
Speaker 1: Paul and they put him on speaker phone in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: And Doug's like, Paul, if you see Tom Brady out
Speaker 1: the night before the Super Bowl, what do you say
Speaker 1: to him? He goes, I've tell him he sucks balls
Speaker 1: is what I tell him. And Doug just hung up
Speaker 1: the phone. Type that in and I get that said
Speaker 1: to me at least once a week from so was
Speaker 1: like to Bertie, tacks balls. Okay, have one more question
Speaker 1: about this stage I'm at an Entourage is your birthday
Speaker 1: episode when you guys go to race Ferraris, Where did
Speaker 1: you do that and did you actually get behind the wheels? Yes?
Speaker 1: So that was at a racetrack in Fontana I think
Speaker 1: California Speedway or something like that. And yes, we did
Speaker 1: race real Ferraris. We got we had to go train
Speaker 1: like a few days before, and we trained on stock cars.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know how to drive stick ironically enough
Speaker 1: so and luckily the Ferraris were not obviously they were.
Speaker 1: They were auto. But I've never really gotten in a
Speaker 1: stock car before. And one of the guys there who
Speaker 1: was teaching us, took me for a ride and one
Speaker 1: of the two seaters, and I just don't know how
Speaker 1: to anyone who thinks that they're just driving this. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was pinned to the to the back
Speaker 1: of my seat, couldn't move all the g for us
Speaker 1: on my head. Yeah, but racing the Ferraris, although they
Speaker 1: were you know, we were told I forgot where we
Speaker 1: couldn't go above I think it was like we couldn't
Speaker 1: go above sixty because there's like insurance on the cars
Speaker 1: on us. But we we we stretched it out a
Speaker 1: little bit. But I got to drive a Ferrari California
Speaker 1: around racetrack. I don't think many people can say that,
Speaker 1: Oh that's very cool, all right, Well I had to
Speaker 1: ask you that stuff. So more to come next week.
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show,
Speaker 1: and especially now because it's playoff time. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: playoff betting is arguably the best betting out there, and
Speaker 1: I gotta say, great starts to the wild card weekend.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. In the divisional round, we're bringing
Speaker 1: in their odds on favorite bet MGM Betting analyst Peter
Speaker 1: Hot Peter Andrew coming in. How are you doing, buddy.
Speaker 1: That's why it's your favorite segment now because I'm winning
Speaker 1: some bets, we're cashing them in and we're coming in hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Talk about just you know, you took your lumps early.
Speaker 1: You kept go. Honestly, it was almost table esque, right, like,
Speaker 1: you just kept with the game plan. Everyone came together
Speaker 1: and now it's all paying off for you. Let's recap
Speaker 1: last week. Would you end up with plus eleven units
Speaker 1: last week? I believe Yeah. So we cleaned up. So
Speaker 1: first off, we were a kiddle touchdown away from probably
Speaker 1: another fifteen units on that one game parlay, So that hurt,
Speaker 1: but I felt good about the other picks. So we
Speaker 1: had got the Bengals early at mine six and a
Speaker 1: half for the line moved up and proved to be
Speaker 1: smart because we uh that one out there. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: sweated that one out for sure. They played We'll talk
Speaker 1: about them in a second. They played down to their
Speaker 1: their opponents there in the Ravens um. But the big one,
Speaker 1: which is the one I was really excited about, was
Speaker 1: Jags Giants both money line parlay Jags. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say about that first half. Trevor Lawrence looked awful,
Speaker 1: but they stayed in the game. They played well, timely
Speaker 1: touchdowns a Jones, Chris and Kirk. I mean, the team
Speaker 1: looked really good in the second half. Such a tale
Speaker 1: of two halves there. But yeah, I said something earlier
Speaker 1: in the show. I think Olivia's eyes popped out of
Speaker 1: our head when I said I actually think the seven
Speaker 1: the seven halftime lead was a bad thing for the
Speaker 1: Chargers with the type of team they have and the
Speaker 1: way they've thrown away leads. Olivia literally looked at me
Speaker 1: like I was insane. Yeah, but I think we talked
Speaker 1: about your New York Football Giants, more so about how
Speaker 1: I thought the Vikings are frauds. The Kirk Cousins fourth down,
Speaker 1: three yard little out pattern, like everything about that team.
Speaker 1: It just makes no sense to me how they won
Speaker 1: thirteen games this year. Just so much superstar talent, but
Speaker 1: they either outcoached constantly. They seem to make the silly
Speaker 1: mistake lots of times. They put themselves in really bad holes.
Speaker 1: And Daniel Jones looked like a guy who could be
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback. Ran for yards in the first half,
Speaker 1: he was throwing the ball Chris look really good, and
Speaker 1: I think I'd like to see that translate and to
Speaker 1: this week against the Eagles. Yeah, we sat Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: looked more like Josh Allen than Josh Allen. And a
Speaker 1: stat I dropped earlier in the show his rush attempts.
Speaker 1: He had seventeen. We're second most in a quarterback in
Speaker 1: playoff history. So I mean, this is the guy we're
Speaker 1: talking about that Jerry mentioned earlier. Preseason, people were saying
Speaker 1: bench up, but I don't know. Does he keep this magic?
Speaker 1: Do the Giants keep this magic today? Yeah? And I
Speaker 1: think it. We've talked about slot over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks on the show. But like, build a good team,
Speaker 1: build a go to all line, build a good D line,
Speaker 1: and then the quarterback is just the moot point. And
Speaker 1: I I say that gracefully and nicely. But if he
Speaker 1: has the weapons, and he has the time, and he
Speaker 1: has the opportunity with a coach like Briant able to
Speaker 1: run plays that benefit him to keep him out of
Speaker 1: the pocket, he's gonna be good. And and to your question, Olivia,
Speaker 1: I think they do cover the seven and a half
Speaker 1: this week, So that's one of my picks. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: basically pick all four spreads and then a little extra
Speaker 1: pick on the on the on the side, but plus
Speaker 1: seven and a half, I think they keep it close.
Speaker 1: You know, before we started recording, I was telling Jerry,
Speaker 1: I just think Hurt did not look great. The Eagles
Speaker 1: did not look great last week this season, a little
Speaker 1: bit rusty, and now they're going another week and a half,
Speaker 1: two weeks without really playing. I think they're gonna come
Speaker 1: out pretty slow, and I think the Giants have a
Speaker 1: lot of momentum. The Giants know what they want to
Speaker 1: do to win. That D line is balling right now
Speaker 1: between Leonard Williams Cavon Thibodeaux. I mean, they've got a
Speaker 1: lot of weapons there. The name of the game is
Speaker 1: just gonna be how you contain Jalen Hurts. If you
Speaker 1: can contain him in the pocket and make him make
Speaker 1: that throw, I think the Giants probably win. This came
Speaker 1: out right, certainly cover. But if you're just gonna let
Speaker 1: him dance around and turn some nothing into something, then
Speaker 1: they're going to be in a lot of trouble. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people agree with you because at bet MGM,
Speaker 1: the Giants are the most bet team right now plus
Speaker 1: seven and a half handle and tickets. Yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to Dextra Lawrence. Everyone complaining that Giants commanders gay Well,
Speaker 1: that was passing interference in the end zone. Everyone gets
Speaker 1: terrible calls. Dex Lawrence gently placed Kirk Cousins on the
Speaker 1: ground and got an awful roughing the quarterback. He pat
Speaker 1: he put him down with like a pillow and a blankie,
Speaker 1: and they called the penalty. So you're going, you're going
Speaker 1: Giants plus the seven and a half in Philly? So
Speaker 1: are you going two and a half units on that?
Speaker 1: Is like you're just picking the games here, right, Nolas
Speaker 1: two and a half units on each of these. So
Speaker 1: so we got Giants plus seven and a half. All right,
Speaker 1: we've got let's go with the other team that was
Speaker 1: on around by last week Chiefs. I think there's opportunities
Speaker 1: for this to be a thirty point when Jags what
Speaker 1: Jags super Bowl was last week, winning their game at home,
Speaker 1: showing that they can compete. I think Trevor Lawrence takes
Speaker 1: a really nice step this year and starts to progress
Speaker 1: to the next two to three years. But I think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs blow them out of the water. That line
Speaker 1: opened at nine and a half. Yeah, but you're I
Speaker 1: think it's a blowout type of game. I mean I
Speaker 1: look at it almost like I look at the Niners
Speaker 1: last week against the Seahawks. A team who deserved to
Speaker 1: be in there, but a team that can't compete with
Speaker 1: the number one or number two overall seed in their
Speaker 1: respect conference. Way too many weapons Chiefs at home, Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, the combo, McKinnon, Pacheco. I mean, just everywhere
Speaker 1: you go. Jack's got a great defense, but it's our
Speaker 1: to stop three different targets. When you got six or
Speaker 1: seven different targets there that can catch a touchdown at
Speaker 1: any point, I'd be really worried. So um, that would
Speaker 1: be one of my two favorites. I like this week.
Speaker 1: The other little home cooking. But I think there's there's
Speaker 1: some recency bias on the Cowboys line. It's moved down
Speaker 1: from minus four and a half to minus three and
Speaker 1: a half in favor of than Niners. Listen, Brady and
Speaker 1: the Bucks were cooked from the start. I think Dac
Speaker 1: I mean, he had an incredible game, but all he
Speaker 1: had to do is just play their their game plan.
Speaker 1: I think they looked awful of Bucks, So I don't
Speaker 1: want to take a lot of stock into it, which
Speaker 1: I think this line is taking a lot into. Niners
Speaker 1: put up a forty one spot or forty two spot,
Speaker 1: whatever it was on the Seahawks pretty much coasted the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Um, Niners are just as complete as it gets,
Speaker 1: right there with the Chiefs in my opinion, so I
Speaker 1: think they handily win this. I love the three and
Speaker 1: a half. I was saying to someone if it was
Speaker 1: six and a half, I probably would take it still,
Speaker 1: So that kind of hook around the touchdown. I think
Speaker 1: that was my number. But I see high scoring game.
Speaker 1: I see you know, Cowboys are good. They're gonna put
Speaker 1: up points. I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's a thirty four to twentysomething, you know, type of game, um,
Speaker 1: but Niners ultimately just have all the weapons there and
Speaker 1: then last one Bengals plus four and a half that's
Speaker 1: moved around a little bit too. I like that game
Speaker 1: to be really close. I don't know if they can
Speaker 1: beat the Bills at at Buffalo, but I think it's
Speaker 1: a close game. I think they certainly to earlier point.
Speaker 1: They played down to the Ravens last week. A lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes, a lot of messy play, but I think
Speaker 1: this is one of those games. You know, they didn't
Speaker 1: get to finish their game a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I think they've got something to prove here. Probably would
Speaker 1: take the Bills to win if I had to take
Speaker 1: a money line, but I think it's a late field
Speaker 1: goal kind of game and it's relatively close. Another shootout
Speaker 1: I think too, just again with all the weapons, Josh Ellen,
Speaker 1: what he's able to do running the ball, weapons like
Speaker 1: Digs gave Davis, and then obviously the wide receiver trio
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. I could see this being a fifty five
Speaker 1: sixty point games. So if you wanted to lean something
Speaker 1: else other than the plus during a half, I'd certainly
Speaker 1: take the over, which I think somewhere around right now.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you that too. Is last weekend,
Speaker 1: five of the six games the overhit and really almost
Speaker 1: on the Monday night game two by half a point.
Speaker 1: But do you feel like that trend will continue into
Speaker 1: this weekend? Yeah? I think there's just a lot of
Speaker 1: really really good offenses here. So if you look at
Speaker 1: these teams and you look down the list, there's what
Speaker 1: one or two that you consider really really stand out defenses.
Speaker 1: The rest are high powered offenses can throw the ball to,
Speaker 1: like I said, seven eight different targets. So again, if
Speaker 1: you're going to fade any of these, fade the overs,
Speaker 1: and then when the first three hit, and then the
Speaker 1: Niners of the last game, take the under, because it's
Speaker 1: just inevitable to happen. All right, So you got Chiefs
Speaker 1: minus eight and a half, got Giants plus seven and
Speaker 1: a half, which I agree with, but I hate that
Speaker 1: we did that because I want them to I want
Speaker 1: no one to bet them. Bengals plus four and a half,
Speaker 1: I do love that number, and Niners minus three and
Speaker 1: a half, I gotta I'm not saying I would worry
Speaker 1: about that one. I'd like it better if it gets
Speaker 1: down the three because down the three. I truly do
Speaker 1: love the Niners, but I think they're all close games
Speaker 1: this week with the exception like, yeah, I do think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs maybe not thirty but maybe UHT to to twenty.
Speaker 1: But um, it will be a wild weekend. Stay hot,
Speaker 1: we got I'm right. Look, I'm i'm, I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm loving your picks. You gotta stay hot, Peter,
Speaker 1: Thank you as always. Good luck this weekend to everybody. Olivia,
Speaker 1: good luck to you. I mean you're literally calling the
Speaker 1: You're gonna be covering the game. That's incredible. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. Thank you. Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just excited to be front and center at
Speaker 1: a playoff game. There's nothing like it. It's so much
Speaker 1: fun and being on the field for it, especially if
Speaker 1: that's what Peter. My dad's calling the game with me,
Speaker 1: but he's up in the booth. He's not, you know,
Speaker 1: smelling the sweat and grass. I love it. Well and
Speaker 1: luck to everybody else out there. Thank you to Andrew Bryant. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's this. I'm so excited. I wish there was more.
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