1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Chat rest pretty accurate. One last night back Welcome in 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick from the home studio. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Today is June, and this is our final show before 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: a three week hiatus. The dead zone is here, so 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: we will go away for a while while we can, 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: because once we pick back up and mid July, it 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: is going to be NonStop, hopefully until training camp and 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: preseason games and the regular season go off without a hitch. 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: But over the news the last couple of days, that's 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: certainly up in the air now as well. But we'll 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: get you through this last program today. Here's what's coming 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: up on the show. Analyst Jeff Lockman will join us. 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little ball and see what the Jags 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: are up to this week. Few guys have been out 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: practicing on their own, it looked like on social media. 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: NFL Network reporter Steve White discusses the social justice initiatives 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: from the Jaguars that have happened over the last two 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: or three weeks and the league as a whole. He's 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: been very active on social media and in his reporting 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: on NFL Network about what the league has done the 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: reaction to it, and he was the one actually that 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: broke the Colin Kaepernick story of why his kneeling began 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: back in the first place, back in Goshen. So we'll 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: get his perspective on that reaction then as opposed to now. 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Ozier joins us. Also, we'll break down 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: his podcast earlier in the week. He spoke with Terry Robiski, 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the running backs coach, and Marcus Pollard, director of player 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: development for the Jackson We'll get his thoughts on that 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and four three verses three four that was the talk 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: late last week from defensive coordinator Todd Wash will break 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: that down again. We'll go around the National Football League 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: as well. So quite a show today, our last one 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: for a while. This is we are nearing the three 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: month mark. In fact, tomorrow would be the three month 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: anniversary of our last show in the building at t 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: I A A. Bank Field, that was on March nineteen. 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Imagine that, Jeff Lockman on the phone with us now 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars analysts logs. That's a crazy three month period, how 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: about that? Ah? Yeah, I mean it, It certainly is crazy. 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: And uh you would think in three months you might 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: have a little bit more answers, but I think you 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: still have a lot more questions, maybe than even than 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: you had three months ago. Uh. I think it puts 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things up in here. But before we 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: get to that, was I the only one that was 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: listening at the beginning, going, where do you get a 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: hand rolled cuban sandwich? Sandwich? You were thinking, Okay, yeah, 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of hungry. And if we said cuban, I said, 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: oh man, I'd love to have me a cuban right now. 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: And then I started thinking, I said, wait a minute, 51 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: I think he meant a cigar. That's exactly that's true. 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Well that maybe you like them both, don't I won't 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: turn it either one of them down most days. But 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: to get to get back to the conversation about ball 55 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: or you know, the questions of what's happened in the 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: last three months, I mean, do you do you see 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: in your mind this NFL happening normally when we get 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: around to training camp July, August, September. But normally I'm 59 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: sure you mean, you know, rookies show up a week early, 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: then the quarterbacks are in, and then the rest of 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: the team, the veterans show up at a certain date 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: and they do two weeks anything anything, being normal. Yeah, 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: I think the definition of normal has changed, and we 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: don't know what that is yet. Yeah. I think we're 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of different things. And 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing. What happens if you're in 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: season and then on Saturday or Sunday morning for that matter, 68 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: you wake up and you're starting quarterbacks not feeling good? 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Okay and uh and and he just spent all week 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: in the same room with the backup quarterbacks and with 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback coach, and you you test him, he's positive, 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: whether it be Saturday or Sunday. Um, what are you 73 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I mean, do you do you have? 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Can you can you just go ahead and expect to 75 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: play your backups who have been in the same room, 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: have been around. You're starting quarterback who tested positive. I mean, 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you handle that challenge? Man? It's 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: it's so it's not even that's not even the right 79 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: word for what this is. Yeah, because even that they are, 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what happens you know, to the game if 81 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: one team does not have quarterbacks available in that scenario? 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Position groups? I mean we're talking, I mean, we're we're 83 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: seeing where it's you know, you guys, are I know 84 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: that what six players or whatever? That the University of Houston, 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: I think it was Texas today. Texas today had a few, 86 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and then the Houston Texans in the Dallas Cowboys had 87 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: some recently as well. All right, but I think there 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: was another university in Texas that had an issue while ago. 89 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: But but I mean, I'm you're sit there and you 90 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: think about that. Okay, well, what if you get a 91 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: defensive lineman who's positive and he's asymptomatic, and he spends 92 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: all week with his guys. You know, he's doing one 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: on one drills. And look, when you do one on 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: one drills, I mean you're making contact with people. You know, 95 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: you're you're breathing on people. Uh, you're shedding things. I 96 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: mean that's what the definition what they're talking about how 97 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: the virus passes is through shedding. So what do you do. 98 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if if one guy tests positive, he's been asymptomatic, 99 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: he's been in the same room as everybody else, and 100 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: and you could have an entire room that's out, well, 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: that entire room also has been around the other entire 102 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: rooms in the huddles and on the field and in 103 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean, how how do you handle this? 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's so many questions, so many 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: and today, I believe, or yesterday, I think it was today. 106 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Dr Fauci, the infectious disease expert that is in the 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: White House and does all that stuff, said that football 108 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: probably won't be able to be played unless it's a 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: bubble situation like the NBA is talking about and Major 110 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: League Baseball, where basically you quarantine the entire team at 111 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: a place for the season. Well that's not realistic. You 112 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: can't do that with you know, fifty three active guys, 113 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: ten practice squad guys, coaching staff, everybody. When what are 114 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Quarantine their quarantine them and a bubble 115 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: away from their family, and then their family is going 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: to be quarantine and a bubble away from anybody else. Right. 117 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: That's tough, I mean, because you can't you can't expect 118 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: a player to be away from his family. But but 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the thing is that even though 120 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: we were all hopeful that, you know, once we get 121 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the summer, that the frequency of transmission would down, and 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: obviously we're seeing some high set and some of the 123 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: testing procedures that related to an increase in positive tests 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: and the virus spreading or is that related to just 125 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: the simple fact that there's a lot more testing going 126 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: on right now too. You don't know the answer to that. 127 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: And politics seems to get involved in everything, and so 128 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to decipher what the truth is going 129 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: to be. But the boy, it's it's just it's just 130 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: hard sometimes to envisions. We head to this little bit 131 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: of a break in the dead zone, you know, when 132 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: we come back, are we going to be out of 133 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: the dead zone or are we gonna be continuing to 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: exist in the dead zone with a lot of uncertainty? 135 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: You know? So, uh, I don't have the answer to that. 136 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's a lot of a lot 137 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: of possibilities that are being discussed at the league level, 138 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: at team levels, and and I have a feeling that 139 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of I don't want to say indecision, 140 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of decisions that haven't been made 141 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: because they just simply don't know the answer right now. 142 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars analysts. And even if we 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: do get to let's say training camp, right and the 144 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: players can practice and they figured it out and they're 145 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: gonna test and all that is fine, quote unquote, I 146 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: don't think we'll be even close to their lives to 147 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: cover it. Heck no, no, JP, we won't be anywhere. 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: We won't be allowed anywhere near it. I'll be sitting 149 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: in this chair right here, interviewing guys over zoom or 150 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: however they set it up. That's how that's going. It'll 151 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: be you know, if you want to watch, maybe on 152 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: some kind of film thing, but you're not going down 153 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: there to to be on the field and be around 154 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: players and and for them to be at risk of 155 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: being around you. I mean, that's uh, the the way 156 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: that the game is covered from a media standpoint. Media 157 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: is going to have extremely limited access. Everything will be 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: done via zoom or team whatever you want to call, 159 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: uh there or whatever avenue is most available or readily 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: available to to the masses. And uh yeah, I mean 161 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna restrict everything. I mean, when when I mentioned 162 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: just before, you know, when you talk about having your 163 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: team traveling, I mean, who's essential You're talking about essential 164 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: personality be able to have a football game. But I 165 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: mean here's the here's the thing. I mean, that's assuming 166 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: you could even have it right. I mean, that's and 167 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: and that right now, that seems to be you know, 168 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: a pretty big assumption, you know, I mean being said, 169 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what other what other pro sports league is 170 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: is playing right now? Well, you got soccer. So the 171 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Premier League in England started yesterday, I believe actual games, 172 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Bundesliga and Germany has been playing for a little bit. 173 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Um Nascar, but that's not a contact sport at least 174 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: personal Nascar is about as good as social distancing as 175 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: you can do. Man put down a car, you know, 176 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: let him, let him dumping grind, but bumping grind is 177 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: six ft or more at least. Yeah, that's right. Uh, 178 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you're swapping paint, you're not swapping spit. So yeah, so 179 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that's about it. Bugs. And then once NBA gets going, 180 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: that's the bubble thing. If there's been a little bit 181 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: of pushback from the players on that as of late, 182 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: to be in a bubble JP, I mean, and you know, 183 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean because beyond you that now to me, you're 184 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: asking me sure if that means getting a paycheck, I'll say, 185 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: in the bubble, to get the paycheck and then move 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: totally understand that I don't have a family. I don't 187 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: have kids. I don't have any of that stuff. So 188 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's where the question gets bigger and the 189 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: answer gets more difficult. And and with football you're dealing 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: with man much many, many, many more numbers than you're 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: talking about with basketball. And I think that's why the 192 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: league right now, as you know, I don't want to 193 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: say they've been quiet. I mean they've been certainly responsive 194 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: to some extent, but I think that they want to 195 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: see how it goes with other leagues that have started 196 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: or that are going to start, to see how they 197 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: can proceed and what might work and what might not work. Right. 198 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: But the last probably the last thing to do in 199 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars umbrella under the ownership group of the cons 200 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Fulham Football Club and the Championship that the second league 201 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: in England. They start on Saturday, so they've had some 202 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: warm ups to get ready, so that'll be really a 203 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: first hand look with some of the Jaguars folks involved 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: in Fulham business as well over in London, so we'll 205 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: get a little better look there as well. Jeff Logan, 206 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: with US Jaguars analyst, joining us here on Jaguars Happy Hour, Well, 207 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: the real virtual offseason program is over. But on social 208 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: media this week we saw a glimpse into some Jaguars 209 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: getting out on a local high school field here and 210 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: starting to work a little bit together. Um, I believe 211 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew was involved, DJ Chark, handful of receivers, that 212 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know, it's the first time I 213 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: think probably they've been able to get together on their own. 214 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: It's a good thing. I don't know, if you're gonna 215 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: get a lot of answers, is better than not doing it, 216 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah. I mean it's something. And do we 217 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: know that that's the first time they've gotten together. No, 218 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean if yeah, I mean that's and here's the thing. 219 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: If you have gotten together previously with a bunch of 220 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: guys with with having seen some of the criticism that 221 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: other players have gotten for gathering with teammates to play 222 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: catch or throw the football together, you know some guys 223 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: might have have done it at a little bit under 224 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the shroud of secrecy, you know, just to not expose 225 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: themselves to criticism for not practicing quote unquote social distancing. 226 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: So but I mean it's good. I mean as much 227 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: as you can try to get together and throw I mean, look, 228 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, even though Uncle Rico did it. You know, 229 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: he can't sit out in park a van out in 230 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: the middle of the valley and to start throwing the 231 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: football over the mountain and get loose and feel like 232 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: he's gotten a lot of big workout. You know, you 233 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: got to throw the people. You gotta have speed, You've 234 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: got to have you know, your guys and Timey and so, 235 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good that they're doing that, and well, 236 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: you hope that they can do as much of that 237 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: as possible between now and the startup camp, just to 238 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of keep things rolling along so that when you 239 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: do get the camp, or if there is a camp, 240 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: and if there everything is going smoothly that I don't 241 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: want to say you can hit the ground running, because 242 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a far cry from doing what you 243 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: need to do to hit the ground running. But at 244 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: least you've had something that has has kind of kept 245 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: you loose and coming in feeling like, Okay, I'm not 246 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: just coming in cold. Jeff Lockman with US. Jann Warris 247 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: analysts the We've got the next three shows off, so 248 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: we're back July. I believe is that Thursday will have 249 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: this show return and hopefully we'll be about a week 250 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: or so out from training camp. What's up in the 251 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: month ahead for you, locks, Uh, just just like what 252 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: it's been up for the last couple of months, DAP. 253 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Lots of family, family time and uh and you know, 254 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: and and a little bit of work and other aspects 255 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: of my life. So it's all good, man. Family is good. 256 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: Life's good. Life's good and uh, you know, as as 257 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: as it can be with a worldwide pandemic. And uh, hey, man, 258 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: ribs are smoking on the girl right now, so it's 259 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: not bad. Oh. I can stand six ft away from 260 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: you if you want me to taste test though a 261 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: little Uh. Lots good stuff, man, Thanks for your time 262 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: throughout this pandemic, and we'll talk to you in a 263 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: few weeks. Man, Hi, JCC buddy, Jeff lockhaman smoking ribs. 264 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: It's a pretty darn good Thursday afternoon, and it's gonna 265 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: be a better evening. It sounds like at the Loghman household. 266 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Coming up time now for the community. 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So 346 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: thank you for sticking with us throughout the pandemic here 347 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and we're gonna take the next three Thursdays away and 348 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: be back with you in mid July. Time. Now to 349 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: hear from Steve White, NFL Network reporter, analyst and host. 350 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Longtime reporter in the National Football League for a number 351 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: of different publications, the Miami Harold he was an nb 352 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: A writer for the Washington Post covering the Wizards and 353 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: the league there for a little while in Atlanta with 354 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: the Journal Constitution, and he's been with the NFL Network 355 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: for a number of years now. Social justice causes for 356 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, but they were really the first team to 357 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: to take a team approach. They were the first team 358 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: to to march. We'll start there and Jack's owner Shot 359 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: con I wrote the op ed piece that really set 360 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: the tone for the organization and a lot of in 361 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of ways the National Football League. You'll see 362 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: the full video coming up early next week with Steve, 363 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: but a little piece of the conversation coming up here 364 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: Steve Whitch of NFL Network, starting with Jaguars owner Shot 365 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Khan and his op ed piece back on June three. 366 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that piece when you first 367 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: read him. Yeah, Look, I think it was important because 368 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: as we know, Shan Khan is the only minority uh 369 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: Prince blowner in the NFL, and so for him to 370 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: come on writing op ed talking about some of the 371 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: race is him that he's faced and of course he's 372 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: he's overcome a lot of things financially in business wise, 373 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: but he still deals with it. Um was fantastic, you know, 374 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: and I really thought it was very important for him 375 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: to say he was going to listen to his players, 376 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: because that's something that owners have not necessarily done somehow, 377 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: but others have been more dictatorial and so you're gonna 378 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: do it this way or it's the highway. So the 379 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: fact that that's the tenor he set for the organization, 380 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I think it's very important because it lets coaches know, okay, good, 381 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: I can give my players maybe some opportunities or freedoms, 382 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: and as players know that, they can seize control of 383 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: the narrative or what is going to happen with the 384 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: players without any type of obstruction. See do you think 385 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: that will be something that Mr Khan starts that other 386 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: owners maybe taken and use on their own as well. 387 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: Is that something like you said in the past that 388 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: some are dictatorial, It doesn't really work like that a 389 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: lot of places. Can this be a leaguewide phenomenon. We'll see. Um. 390 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: You know, look, some owners are stepped out and they've 391 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: made statements, but you know, are they gonna put actions 392 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: behind their words? And some owners have been very active. 393 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: David Tepper with the Carolina Panthers summer ties with their 394 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: big security agency because they're their CEO of their head 395 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: was very dismissive of some of the things publicly about 396 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: what people are protesting against. So you know that this 397 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: is a wait and see. But I do think Shan 398 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Khan and taking the steps that he's taken, has shown 399 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: significant leadership, maybe to the rest of the owners, but 400 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: I think absolutely to his players and people in the 401 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: community who can see that the influence the Jaguars could 402 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: have and kind of being a guiding hand and measures 403 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: to be taken to kind of make some some repairs 404 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: to what's going on right now, certainly in a town 405 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: like this that the Jaguars are the big fish here 406 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. So whatever happens from this organization makes a 407 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: big impact of the community. We've seen that already with 408 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: the players marches through down town, including the mayor and 409 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: the sheriff. You don't get a lot of work both 410 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: ways in a lot of places, but jackson Bill is 411 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: a place where that has happened so far, it has, 412 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, and what's interesting is, you know some of 413 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: these things have been player legs all Leonard for NET 414 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: and some people you know, take take that the hold 415 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: of that, and some of them organizationally led. I mean, 416 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: think back when you were a little kid. I mean, 417 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: even if you've got a chance to meet the NFL 418 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: player or even see one you know on the sideline 419 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: close or in person and autograph signing whatever. Even if 420 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: you know that person said you like, hey, you can 421 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: be a star, You're gonna think, man, he told me 422 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: I can be a star. And so players understand the 423 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: influence of the voice of the pro athlete or the 424 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: or the head coach. And that's something you know, you're 425 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: seeing one and more players recognized during this situation, this movement, 426 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, that we're in right now. 427 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: I think they're understanding that, Yeah, we may not be 428 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: able to change the minds to some people who older, 429 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: who are ingrained, we can teach these young people or 430 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: show these young people away that we can be better 431 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: and more tolerant and more accepting. And that's what I 432 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: think so many people are forgetting about because maybe the 433 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: people who aren't buying the tickets but would be the 434 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: next generation to buy the tickets, those can be the 435 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: significant influencers. Are those to be influenced in this moment. 436 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: Steve Weich with us NFL Media, one of the highly 437 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: respected reporters on NFL Network and has been around the 438 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: league for a long time. You, Steve obviously broke the 439 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: story back in August of of why Colin Kaepernick was 440 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: first sitting and then kneeling during the national anthem, And 441 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: we bring that up because his name is again at 442 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: the forefront of the league's I guess awakening is a 443 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: good term for what has happened over the last few weeks. 444 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Why what are your thoughts on why it was so 445 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: controversial then and why that maybe has changed and his 446 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: story is moving this forward. Yeah, great question, And you 447 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: know what, I don't think Kaepernick necessarily was simply why 448 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: things have changed with the league this time, I think 449 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: it's changed with the nation. I mean, you're hearing news 450 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: agencies and people bring up his name, um in this moment, 451 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: because he told us, you know, when he first did 452 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: not stand and then eventually kneel during the playing of 453 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: the national anthem. A lot of people got hung up 454 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: on the fact that he wasn't standing for the national 455 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: anthem when he was saying he was protesting some of 456 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: both the police brutalities and judicial injustices that we're seeing 457 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: come to the forefront right now. Of course it was punctuated, 458 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: um with the killing of George Floyd. And I think 459 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: anybody because we're all home from this COVID right we're 460 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: all watching our TVs who can't escape it. Anybody who 461 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: saw the police officer with his knee on George Floyd's 462 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: neck and George Floyd dying and screaming for his his 463 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: dead mother. Um, that wasn't a matter of black or white. 464 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: That was a matter of right and wrong. And so 465 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons for the ground swell. 466 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: And so this is what Kaepernick was talking about. So 467 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: people can harken back. Let's they see he was trying. 468 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: He was trying to tell us he wasn't trying to 469 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: offend anybody at that time by not standing for the 470 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: national anthem. He was trying to offend us, to touch 471 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: the nerve that we're accepting too often of black and 472 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: brown people being killed by law enforcement or being or 473 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: those or those law enforcement officers not being held accountable 474 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: for some of their behaviors. So I think that's part 475 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: of it, um and that's why I think you're hearing 476 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: more and more than narrative, especially when it comes to 477 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: NFL athletes. Instead of saying I'm protesting, they're explaining why. 478 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: And that's the first thing I did the first article 479 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: I wrote about this, I explained why he was doing it. 480 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: But of course again that got lost in translation very quickly. 481 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: Steve White with us NFL Network, final thought on Kaepernick here, 482 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a ground swell now for 483 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: him to be signed at some point by an NFL team. 484 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I think the commissioner even mentioned his name the other 485 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: day in an interview. Do you think a team will 486 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: sign him? And what type of team can handle this situation? Yeah, 487 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: it was interesting first off there, Roger Goodell said publicly 488 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: that Hey, I've encouraged teams to sign Colin Kaepernick privately. 489 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: He's done that for years, like, hey, you know he's 490 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: a free agent. You know you guys can sign him. Um, 491 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: but it hasn't happened, Which is why I think at 492 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: this point I don't expect the team to sign him. 493 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: I really don't. It's they've had three years to do 494 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: it most of these teams. That means they've had three 495 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: drafts to kind of come up with their their quarterback 496 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: development cycle. Even though even the fact that calf has 497 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: been out of not play football in three years, you 498 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: can look at some backup quarterbacks and kind of say, 499 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, he could he could probably at least compete. 500 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: But you know a team, you know, like the Jaguars, 501 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Glennon is there, but there there's someone 502 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: he could come in and compete and be the backup, 503 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, Gardner Minshews who they're rolling with the starter. 504 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: But then you say to yourself, and this is an 505 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: interesting the academy. I've had someone you know, bring this 506 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: to my attention. Do you bring him into a locker 507 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: room where he could either be polarizing or more popular 508 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: than your starter, And would you even worry about it 509 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: because odds are there aren't gonna be any media in 510 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: the locker rooms at least for the first few weeks 511 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: of training camp and maybe the regular season to ask 512 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: players consistently about this, which has always been something that 513 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: has been a distraction in that conversation. So I don't 514 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen um, but maybe some team will 515 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: do it. And then you have to ask yourself, will 516 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: Kaepernick be willing to do it um? Because he made 517 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: his view as a patronizing gesture instead of this is 518 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: a sincere attempt, you know, to get him a job 519 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: back in the NFL. But he may just say forget 520 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: it anyway, I want to play. I'm gonna give it 521 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: a shot. We just don't know. Steve Weiss with this 522 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: NFL network, you touched on a little bit of this 523 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: a moment ago, but the next steps for players, ownership, organizations, 524 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: and the league as a hole in this movement. You know, 525 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: this is the the dead period of the off season. 526 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Players have been away all off season anyway, but they're 527 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: really away now. Does this momentum stay until training camp? 528 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: And then I guess the next question is what does 529 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: training camp look like? And I think you just talked 530 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: about it. They're a little bit without media possibly and 531 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: then without fans. Maybe at some point the league is 532 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: still holding hope. The next steps, I think are the 533 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: big question here. How does this momentum caring? Yeah, you know, 534 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: look it's interesting. I've got a I just an interview 535 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: with three Vikings players because they felt it was important 536 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: to talk about this. It's gonna air on our programming 537 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: this week because they're ground zero right there in Minneapolis 538 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: where the George Floyd interne had happened, and this was 539 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: kind of the trigger point, and they said it is 540 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: up to them as players, right, they've got to do 541 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: their jobs. Excuse me, but used the platform, excuse me, 542 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: the NFL Sundays their practices and their their profiles to 543 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: still talk about this. Yes, they know the playing games 544 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: is their occupation and that's what they're going to be 545 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: focused on. But that is where being on their Tuesday 546 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: off days or through some private type of pregame projects 547 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: or whatever postgame project. They've got to keep that going again, 548 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: We'll see. Um. You know, the football is a tough sport. 549 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: You really got to lock in on. Players have done 550 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: this before. This is nothing new in terms of community service. 551 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: As for how things are gonna look with COVID nineteen 552 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: still still you know out there and and you know, 553 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: not really going away. In a lot of places, we 554 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: still don't know. Man, JP, it's there. There's so much unknown. 555 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: Teams are spoken to some folks with teams that they're 556 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: waiting on the lead from the league. The league is 557 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: kind of saying, well, we've got thirty two different markets. 558 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: We've got to see what's going on there. But you know, 559 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: clearly from everything I'm hearing, you know, media training camp, 560 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: there's either gonna be none or it could be something 561 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: where like say media coverage, we're you know, we're parked 562 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: in a tent and the players are here and we're 563 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: not gonna have any even six ft away interaction. UM, 564 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: social distancing and team facilities. You know, how teams are 565 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna work with players. You know, we're we're hearing about testing. 566 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: Um of course, training camps are gonna be a team facilities. 567 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: And we get two games. Will there be fans or 568 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: won't there be fans? Because because here's something I think about, 569 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you have to. Let's just say the 570 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: league goes half capacity at stadiums pregame, What are those 571 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: thousand fans likely going to be doing on the park tailgating? 572 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: So are there gonna be social distancing while their tail game? Right? 573 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: So then so then they come into the stadium if 574 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: you have people every other row, but if you've got 575 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: someone there to your left and right, how's that gonna work? 576 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's I mean, I'm sure it's so 577 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: complex because there's so many different things happening in so 578 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: many different cities. On the risk that the NFL wants 579 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: to put its players and trainers and coaches and staffers 580 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: in and the risk that they want to put fans 581 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: in um because in all honesty, who knows if there's 582 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a vaccine or a cure for this anytime 583 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: in the near future. And so there's just so many variables, 584 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: and we've got about five or six weeks to figure 585 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: it out. It's very very hard to tell. And I myself, 586 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: as I'm sure you are eager to find out how 587 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: where this is going to go, we certainly are. That's 588 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: Steve White, NFL Network at whitech eighty nine on Twitter 589 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: and a really good follow there, very active the last 590 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: few weeks with everything going on around the national football 591 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: again and the country early as a whole. A good 592 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: perspective there from Steve, and you know, as the last 593 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: note there is the one we discussed with Logs as well. 594 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: We all know, until we get closer to training camp 595 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: and and see if this thing dies down at all, 596 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: or if there's a vaccine of some sort that comes 597 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: on the market, that's um all up in the air. 598 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: As of June eighteen, we're back. In a moment, we'll 599 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: hear from John Ozer, Jaguars dot Com senior writer. He'll 600 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: join us over the phone line. We're about halfway home. 601 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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We're a 671 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: day away tomorrow the nineteen, the three month anniversary of 672 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: what what? What was our final show at t I 673 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: A bank Field before the lockedown. Of course, all the 674 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: many of the sports shut down the week prior to that. 675 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: On that Thursday and Friday that was players weekend, and 676 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: then um, we were in the office another few days 677 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: after that, and then finally that Thursday night, the March 678 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: nineteenth was our final show. And we haven't been back 679 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: in the office since, at least I haven't. A few 680 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: folks have been the last couple of weeks since they've 681 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: opened up some parts of the organization. Another person who 682 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: has not been in the office since then his senior writer, 683 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 1: John Osier, who joins us on the phone. Now, John, 684 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: good afternoon. Yeah, I'm kind of picturing Jake my desk. 685 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: Like I used to go down to Miami right after 686 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: Dan marine I retired and they had his locker. They're 687 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: just sort of like encased it with glass. And it 688 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: was like it was when he retired. So I picture 689 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: like my in my crappy shirt that he said, sitting there. 690 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of sitting there all all wadded up encasing glass. Uh. Yeah, 691 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: it's um gonna be frozen in time. I think our 692 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: whole office in time. Yeah, what was It's crazy, it's uh, 693 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's uh, it's the time we live in. It's 694 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: it's an odd, odd time. It sounds like, you know, 695 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: there's probably already dust settled on all of that down 696 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: at the stadium, but it sounds like there's gonna be 697 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: at least double the dust. You know. I don't think 698 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: we'll be in there doing anything for a while. John, 699 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: that didn't seem like it, And uh, I think we 700 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: talked about it last week. It just feels like and logically, 701 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: so I was getting questions about it two weeks ago. Hey, 702 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: do you feel like the NFL is being overly cautious 703 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: in all that? Yeah, it just feels like they're not 704 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 1: in the lock except with everybody else. Well, as we've 705 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: seen the last couple of weeks, I don't think the 706 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: NFL is being overly cautious. I think they're being correctly cautious. 707 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: They realized that the more people who were together, the 708 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: greatest uh you know, without extreme caution, the greater chance 709 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: there is for flare up or whatever you call it. 710 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: So I expect them to proceed with the absolutely most 711 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: costume because I don't know how else they would proceed. 712 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they realized that people together, uh sweating which 713 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: players will do, is going to be an extreme caution situation. 714 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: They've got to figure out to andale it. So I 715 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: don't anticipate being back around them. I just say I 716 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: saw talking Jags and covering the team. But how that's 717 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: gonna play out, how the season is going to play out? Um, 718 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, I wrote today in the Ozone I think 719 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: or maybe it's for tomorrow. This has been a the weirdest, 720 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: most obstacle filled off season that you could possibly imagine, 721 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: and I expect the regular season to be that. Times 722 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: ten senior writer John Osian with us you mentioned the Ozone. 723 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: How many consecutive days is your streak of ozone posts? Now? 724 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: You know it's it's uh, I don't really I don't 725 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: really count it in terms of the days because you 726 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: gotta go. I started the best in my recollection, and 727 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: I said to get the original date messed up and 728 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: I to go back and check it either August eleventh 729 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: or four of two thousand eleven, so whatever that adds 730 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: up to one of those days it was. It was 731 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: a Sunday, and unfortunately for me, I kind of started it. 732 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: This was back when there was some doubt over whether 733 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars games would be uh blacked out or not. That 734 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: was still a thing, and I sort of made the 735 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: cream and hey all, I'll do this every day and 736 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: until it gain is blacked out, sort of making the 737 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: point that I didn't think at that point anymore would 738 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: be blacked out. And I was just sort of flippingly said, 739 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: hey all, well guess what, jpre put your money where 740 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: you're math. But on a serious now, that's not why 741 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: I do it anymore. As we've talked about, it's not 742 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: overly hard the answer fans questions, and it seems like 743 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: read it every day. Uh, it's just for me to 744 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: sit down and answer Jaguars sans questions. I feel fortunate 745 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: too write about football for a living when a lot 746 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: of people, a lot frankly and in the industry came 747 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: from don't have the opportunity. So the answer some questions 748 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: for people, and uh, I think most people have a 749 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: good time when they're reading it. To do that really 750 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: isn't bad. Hard's deal and you know you're getting questions. 751 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: When you stop getting questions, you know there are bigger issues. 752 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: So there is any no doubt. Um, John, you've started 753 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: the ozone podcast. We've touched on this the last few weeks, 754 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: but this week we visited with Terry Robisky, running backs coach, 755 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: and Marcus Pollard, the director of player development, And those 756 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: are two gentlemen that were instrumental in the march from 757 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: the stadium to the Jacksonville Sheriff's office steps. Robiski has 758 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: been around this league for darn near forty years and 759 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: as an assistant coach starting with the Raiders way back 760 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: in the early eighties after a short playing career that 761 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: was injury shortened. In fact, Marcus Pollard had a long 762 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: career in the NFL as a tight end, was a 763 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: basketball player coming up and then worked his way in 764 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: the NFL a long career there and now on the 765 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: football side, basically as an advisor of sorts for players. 766 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: But Um, these guys were right there in the front 767 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: of this thing a few weeks ago, and it was 768 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: what a forty four minute podcast you had with them 769 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: this week? What what extra did you get out of 770 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: the conversation with him this week that maybe we didn't 771 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: hear a couple of weeks ago. Well, the reason I 772 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: wanted to have him on UM is, first of all, 773 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: they represent probably close to sixty cumulative years of NFL experience. 774 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: H Terry has been at it, as you said, since 775 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: seventy seven markets started in the league, and he hasn't. 776 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was out of the league 777 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: for three or four years between retiring and comes to Jaguar. 778 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: So these guys have seen a lot. And it struck 779 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: me you were there with me JP when Terry talked 780 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: about I thought Terry was incredibly moving when he talked 781 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: during the March, I guess it's been two or three 782 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: weeks now too, and but he talked for maybe a 783 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: minute and a half or two minutes, and it struck 784 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: me that certainly, if he was interesting in that regard, 785 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: if Mark's was interesting on the on the steps during 786 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: an emotional time, that there had to be a lot 787 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: more and some background into what they were talking about 788 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: that they could talk about there. So I hope that 789 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: by having them on I could get a little more 790 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: of a feel for why for Terry Robiski it was 791 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: it was so moving for him to have heard what 792 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: shod Con wrote or to have read what sid Con 793 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,479 Speaker 1: wrote on the website when he talked about as essay 794 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: on racism, and to talk about what Doug Morone's leadership 795 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: had meant, and he talks about both things on the steps, 796 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: and in talking to both of them, they both expanded 797 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: on that and expanded on a lot of the issues 798 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,959 Speaker 1: as to why what the players are doing and why 799 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: the actions that they are taking on the racial equality, 800 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: racial social justice, whatever we're calling it, why that matter 801 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: to them so much, and why they believe in their 802 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: hearts that this feels different and why it's so important 803 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: in all the issues. So it was as interesting and 804 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: as insightful, I think as I thought it would be, 805 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: and I thought the most interesting thing that came from it. 806 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: Both of them talked, and both of them kept circling 807 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: back even when this wasn't the topic, to how important 808 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: that Doug morons approach in terms of making everybody feel 809 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: comfortable talking about this or as comfortable as as possible, 810 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: and promoting the conversation how important that's been. So our 811 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: podcast next week is talking to coach Maron about some 812 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: of the same issues, and I think it's taken in total. 813 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a chance if you listen to it 814 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: for about an hour and a half, you really get 815 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: a full feel for how some of these conversations started, 816 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: the tone of it, why that he feels like it's important, 817 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: and most importantly, why they feel like it will continue 818 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: to be an important topic that everybody takes seriously, even 819 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: within the context of the season. So long answer, obviously, 820 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: but I certainly feel like we were able to talk 821 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: about a lot of issues that are really important right now. 822 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: And this is going to be important obviously throughout this season. 823 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: And you know, Doug Moron is going to carve out 824 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: time in the weekly schedule to have conversations about this 825 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: with his football team. That's that's really a slam dunk 826 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: for him. I think he's definitely gonna do that, and um, 827 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, I think the players wouldn't like it if 828 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: he didn't like they were gonna talk about it anyway, 829 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 1: So make the time for it, address it the right way, 830 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's the way the Jaguars are going 831 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: to go here. John O's your senior writer Jaguars dot 832 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: Com with us. You know, we we touched a little 833 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: bit the last couple of weeks on this three four 834 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: four three defense thing um, and we have it's certainly overblown. 835 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: It's not Madden. You're not like you know, Todd wash 836 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: said that they haven't changed anything they've taught on their 837 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 1: defensive front. That you know, they still have the same 838 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 1: fronts that they've had, but they just have some different 839 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: personnel and then move some guys around a little bit. 840 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: But it's not like you're gonna choose the three four 841 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: defense in this on this play and Madden and the 842 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: next play bringing the four three and it's a totally 843 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: different look. That's that's not what this thing feels like 844 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: at all. Well, and so listen to Todd talk about it. 845 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: Listen to dug up at a little bit. They will 846 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: be in some front where they line up and it 847 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: looks like a three four when tode defense, what he 848 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: means is they are not a pure I you know, 849 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: old Pittsburgh Steelers, we had a huge nose tackle and 850 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: then you had to quote defensive ends who were really 851 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: glamorized defensive tackles who didn't rush the past or they 852 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: weren't shooting gaps, and he said they're not really a 853 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: two gap team because teams that have those kind of 854 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: players asked those guys just to fill gaps and not 855 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: to rest the quarterback very much, and they're not quick twitch, 856 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: hit gap kind of players. The Jaguars have more players 857 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: who were one gap style, So it sounds like the 858 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: biggest difference is the strong sidelinebacker, who in this scheme 859 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: has been a Leon Jacobs type who plays off the ball, 860 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: who's pursuing side to side. They have more guys who 861 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: from that position can go line up put their hand 862 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: on the ground. And everybody I've talked to, and I 863 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: talked to Jason Rebovitch about this a couple of weeks ago, 864 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to run the story until Tid 865 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: had had a chance to talk. He said the same 866 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: thing to Ti to talk about. It's about versatility, and 867 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: it's about being able to give the offenses more pre 868 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: snap looks that aren't eight four three looks. So they're 869 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: gonna use these players because uniqu can do this, and 870 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen can do this and Cassius marsh they can 871 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 1: line up as defensive ends or lineback. That's the biggest 872 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: difference rather than the three or four four three in 873 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,959 Speaker 1: a look, by the way, the p that is about 874 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: of what they do. So it's it's a lot of 875 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, I've had people actually get mad. Oh, 876 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: Todd wash is an idiot because he's not running a 877 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: three four? What how do you do? You know, they're 878 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: trying to find a steam that fits their person now 879 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: the best no matter what you call. There's no magic 880 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 1: two or three four. Their defense wasn't bad last year 881 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: because they didn't run a three four. It was bad 882 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: because a lot of the players they had weren't playing 883 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: as well, they were getting old, and now they're trying 884 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to revamp the schemes. Anyway, JP, 885 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: it's a literally it's a little bit of a pet 886 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: peeve of But that's fine. That's why I brought it up. 887 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: I knew it. Yeah, I wanted to get a reaction 888 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: out of you, John. They're trying to figure out the 889 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,439 Speaker 1: best team to fit the players that they've gone and gotten. 890 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: Then that's what they're going to be doing. What they 891 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: should do, right, it makes sense. Yeah, and I'll keep 892 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: great questions about the three four three and and that's fine, 893 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's a lot of it's gonna be different. Look, 894 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be what this scheme has been all along, 895 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: a hybrid four three three four team that depending on 896 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 1: the personnel, can change based on the personnel. John Osha 897 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: with us. You mentioned that unique and got Quai's name 898 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: in there, and that has been pretty quiet as of late. 899 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of tweeting going on 900 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: a month or two ago from John, and you know, 901 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: there's all as we've mentioned in the past, there's only 902 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: a few different things that can happen here on this thing. 903 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: But I'm curious if that heats up at some point 904 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: and if there's a deal done or a trade done 905 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: or what. You know, we just haven't heard from that 906 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: in a while, you know. Yeah, And it feels like 907 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: nothing to be said and nothing to say for a while, 908 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: and that one ly fIF team rolls around or whatever, 909 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: this will start bubbling up into a topic again. I 910 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: would anticipate complete from me, Hon at some point, wouldn't 911 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: surprise me. I I just don't know, really what's going 912 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: to change from what David called was that after the draft, 913 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: which is a hey, we welcome him back. They didn't 914 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: get any deals. My understanding is they are in no 915 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: hurry and not of the inclination to trade Unique got way. 916 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: This is not a situation where the jag wardor saying 917 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: we need him out of the building. They want him 918 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: in the building. So right now, if if he doesn't 919 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: play for the Jaguars, he doesn't play so and and 920 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: more importantly, probably he doesn't get paid. So is is 921 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: that just smoke? Are they looking to trade him sometime 922 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: in August? I don't think that. I I don't know 923 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: how it'll play out, but I don't know that. A 924 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: whole lot of scenes from last of the Draft and 925 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: last the Draft is fel like if he doesn't play here, 926 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: he's not gonna play. Maybe that's why he's being quiet. 927 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: I always has to want to answer this sha. I 928 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: don't really like to put words in Unique mouth because 929 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: he's perfectly capable of tween that on his own. And 930 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: I'll be up front, I don't talk to Unique during 931 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: the off season just because I'm not calling players on 932 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: that regard. So I don't know what he's thinking or 933 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: why he does what he goes. I like covering him. 934 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: I hope he plays for the Jaguars. But because of 935 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: his personality type, which is he's his own guy. Now, 936 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: that's what I mean by that, he's gonna do what 937 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: he wants to do. I can't predict what he's gonna 938 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: play it next year. I hope he does. Well. We 939 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: got the summer months there to get to training camp 940 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens on that front. And 941 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: h you know, that's a big if obviously, the training 942 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: camp and all that. Hey, thanks man, appreciate you over 943 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: the last few months here. Well, we're taking the next 944 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: three weeks off, but we'll be back about that. We'll 945 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: catch back up with you in mid July about that, alright, Retty, 946 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: thank you, all right, Johnny john os Or, Senior writer 947 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: a Jaguars dot Com. Good stuff there is always from 948 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: our buddy. We're back in a moment. We'll go around 949 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: the National Football League and three cheers on this Jaguars 950 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's Haymade Vodka 951 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: is America's original craft vodka. 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Florida Blues 1023 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: support extends beyond healthcare that they work in the community 1024 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: to provide meals for seniors, masks for healthcare workers and residents, 1025 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: funds for immediate needs, and expertise on prevention. JP shattered 1026 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: from the home studio a couple of minutes from Mandy. 1027 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: Let's cut around the National Football League. You'll get a 1028 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: kick out of this Bear's quarterback coach John d. Philippo 1029 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: told the Chicago Tribune that he's looking for quote juice 1030 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: from the quarterback room. Mitchell Traviski, Nick Foles are there, 1031 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: and he said, quote we walk around with a little 1032 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: bit of swagger to ourselves in terms of knowing where 1033 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: the best quarterback room in the National Football League end 1034 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: quote from John D. Filippo, former Jaguars offensive coordinator. Take 1035 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: that for what you will. Dr Anthony Fauci, the director 1036 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and 1037 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: part of that White House task force on COVID nineteen, 1038 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: he said football teams we need to emulate plans by 1039 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: the NBA and MLS for a bubble format or consider 1040 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: not playing in the NFL. Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen 1041 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: Stills put out a statement today saying that the league 1042 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: and the Players Association, with joint medical Advisors, are addressing 1043 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: to mitigate the health risk the players coaches another essential personnel. 1044 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: They will be flexible and adaptable in the environment to 1045 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: adjust to the virus as needed. And the league also 1046 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: today announcing that Hard Knocks will focus on two teams 1047 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: this year. That's right, the Los Angeles Rams and the 1048 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. A new season of Hard Knocks kicks 1049 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: off August eleven on HBO. Our thanks our three cheers 1050 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: today to all of our guests throughout the last three 1051 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: months on the Jaguars Happy Hour other programming. The full 1052 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: list on on my Twitter bait to run it out 1053 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: of time, but thank you for everyone involved the last 1054 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: three months. We got the next three weeks off. We'll 1055 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: talk to you again July sixteenth. That's Jaguars Happy Hour 1056 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Have a great song.