1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network powered by 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Interstate Batteries from your truck to your trail camera. Interstate 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Batteries as you covered. Visit your local Interstate Batteries store 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: today or online at Interstate Batteries dot com. Interstate Batteries 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeoman. I'm the host 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: host into the world of hunting the icon of North 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: American wilderness to bear. We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation, 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: who will also bring you into some of the wildest 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: country on the planet Chasing Battery. On episode fifteen of 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast, we go on a live 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: coon hunt with myself and a good friend of mine 13 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: named Jonathan Webster. We take my two plot hounds, Fern 14 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: and Jed here in the Ozark Mountains. We'll talk about 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: the history of coon hunting, the cultural significance of coon hunting, 16 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: the conservation aspects of coon hunting, the how to what 17 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: we're actually doing inside of coon hunting, and then we'll 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: take you along to a tree where we got a coon. 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: How does this hunt time with bear hunting. These dogs 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: of mine I got from a bear dog breeder, and 21 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: these dogs their whole family history for a long ways back. 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: We're bear dogs, but I've trained them to be coon 23 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: dogs and we have had a tremendous time the last 24 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: four years hunting these dogs. You're gonna enjoy this podcast. 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: It's something different. Stay tuned to the end. Don't knock it, 26 00:01:51,360 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: tell you try it. Okay, Hey, we're a hundred and 27 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: thirty yards directly below him. I'm not gonna lie to you. 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: That's a rough piece of talk to him. Third to 29 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: talk to him. Good job, good job yet. Welcome to 30 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. Tonight. We are going on 31 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: a coon hunt. The date, what's the day, Jonathan? So 32 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: he's a fifth. Today is January and it is about 33 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: six fifty in the evening, and we are we are 34 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: loaded up and I've got with me a long time friend, 35 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Webster. Jonathan, give us, give us just a little 36 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: introduction of yourself. Oh man, I am really excited to 37 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: be here tonight. Never been hunting before. Obviously we've been 38 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: friends for a long time, but uh, I've never been 39 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: hunting before, and really really excited. Left goals also being 40 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: on a podcast Life Goals Sam. Well, you know, it's 41 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: kind of one of these deals where Jonathan and I've 42 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: we've been friends for a long time, but we've we've 43 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: never hunted together. And just last last week we were 44 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: looking for some time to get together and I said, Hey, 45 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: let's go coon hunting and he was like, tell me 46 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: when and I'll be there very very much like that. Yeah, 47 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: and so this is a great actually a great opportunity 48 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: to talk about coon hunting raccoon hunting, and what we're 49 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna do on this podcast is I'm gonna I'm going 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: to talk about basically two separate things that about coon hunting, 51 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what they are. And then we're 52 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna go on a coon hunt and we're gonna record. 53 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna record some of the kind of live action 54 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: of the hunt. And uh, and this is the spiel. 55 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: We got dog collars for the dash of the truck. 56 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: This is the spill that I give every single time 57 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: that I take new people coon hunting. And I really 58 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: really enjoy taking new people because it's a you know, 59 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: if you're trying to take somebody deer hunting. Jonathan, first 60 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: of all, they've they've got to have their own weapon. 61 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: They've got to be proficient with that weapon. They've they've 62 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: got to be prepared to deal with large amounts of 63 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: meat if they kill a deer. I mean not everybody's 64 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: really prepared or ready to do that. They've got to 65 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: have patience, they've that. You know, the seasons are more 66 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: are aren't as liberal as say a small game season, okay, 67 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: because like the deer seasons would be much shorter. A 68 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: small game season, like coon season here in Arkansas is 69 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: is nine months long. There's actually only three months of 70 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: the year that you cannot hunt raccoons in Arkansas. I 71 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: didn't even know there was a season. But yeah, I mean, yeah, 72 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: I know plenty of people who as soon as it's 73 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: deer season, they just jet from work. You never see 74 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: you don't see him for you know, ten days, and 75 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: so I didn't even know, right, And so so this 76 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: is a this is a great entry point for people 77 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: to experience hunting. And you don't you know, when you 78 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: coon hunt, it's a it's a it's safe in the 79 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: sense of like I take a lot of kids coon hunting, 80 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and I tell their parents, you know, my friends, my 81 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: my children's friends come coon hunting with me, and I'm like, hey, 82 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: this is safe. Friends, friends, your children's friends. Oh no, 83 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: your children's y Yeah yeah, children's friends or friends children there, 84 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: we gon go either way, take him coon hunting. And 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: a lot of times people that have never interacted with hunting, 86 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I think that it's it's unsafe. They think that their 87 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: kid is going to be running around with a gun 88 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: at night, and I'm like, no, no, no, this is 89 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: this is actually very safe. There only one gun. I'll 90 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: be carrying the gun. Um. And that's pretty unique to 91 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: hunting because in most times hunting, everybody needs a gun 92 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: butt in a not in coon hunting. And uh, and 93 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: we'll describe exactly what we are doing. But it's a 94 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: good entry level sport. And this is what I truly 95 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: love about coon hunting, Jonathan. That's in contrast to my 96 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: big game hunting, is that big game hunting is typically 97 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: a solo sport. Even even though even though I have 98 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: all these people that I connect with on a relational 99 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: level inside of bear hunting and deer hunting and turkey 100 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: hunting and all these different things, when you go on 101 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a bear hunt, you're by yourself. Yeah, I mean, now 102 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: you may be in camp with people, but I mean 103 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: we're actually out there hunting. You're by yourself, man, coon 104 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: hunting I have taken last week, we took a group 105 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: of maybe seven or eight people, three or four ladies, 106 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: ladies that you would know, uh, that you would never 107 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: expect to go coon hunting. My wife was there with us, 108 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: and my kids were there, and there were seven or 109 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: eight of us. I think last year we went on 110 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: what we called the Cousins coon Hunt, which was all 111 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: my my wife, sister in law, and I think there 112 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: was seventeen of us that went, and I mean it 113 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: was just a blast. You get out in the dark, 114 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: you turn your hounds loose, and you're able to talk, 115 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: you're able to converse, you're not you don't have to 116 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: be quiet, you don't have to worry about your scent, 117 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: and most types of big game hunting there's it's really 118 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: there's really more stress involved because you gotta do a 119 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: whole lot of things right right to kill a deer, 120 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: to kill a bear, you know, there's a lot more 121 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: at stake. That's actually been an intimidation point for me, 122 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: as someone who does has no real exposure or entry 123 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: into the hunting world. To like want to dip atoe 124 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: in it that knowing that there's like a lot on 125 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: the line that I could mess up for somebody else's shot. 126 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: So like that's something that, uh, that's that's cool, that 127 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: that's not a factor here. Yeah. I mean, you know, 128 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: there's a term that that houndsmen have you used for 129 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how long, but what we're doing tonight 130 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: is what you'd call a pleasure hunt, and that that 131 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: phrase may not make sense unless you're a houndsman that 132 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, if we if we tree a coon or 133 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: if we don't, it's really not the issue. It's not 134 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: like we're out here trying to you know, three fifteen 135 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: coons and sell the hides and make a living for 136 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: our family. This is a pleasure hunt. Pleasure hunt we're 137 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: doing for fun, just purely fun. And obviously other types 138 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: of hunting is enjoyable and fun, but there's something about 139 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: turn to loose a hound at night that's a lot 140 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: of fun. So here's what we're gonna talk about, Jonathan. 141 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: There's two things I want to tell you about. I 142 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about plot hounds and this 143 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna talk to you like you're a ten 144 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: year old. That's basically that's my hunting age. Actually that's 145 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: your hunting age. Well, when when these kids come with me, 146 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: like the life has to be interpreted or or you 147 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: don't understand it. I mean, it's like walking into an 148 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: art gallery and if you saw that same piece of 149 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: art out of context in somebody's garage, you might walk 150 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: by it and not realize that that's a world famous 151 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: piece of art that has some intrinsic beauty that is extraordinary. 152 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: So to me, on a coon hunt, you could be 153 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: fooled into thinking that all that these dogs are just 154 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: a diamond dozen and we just turn them loose, and 155 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: coons are diamond dozen't and they just run out there 156 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: and tryer coon and we go and shoot it and 157 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: go home, and we were coon hunters. But actually it's 158 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: a complex sport that takes a lot of dedication. It's 159 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: taken decades and decades of breeding in these hounds to 160 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: get them to do what they want. There's a lot 161 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: of cultural value inside of coon hunting that I think 162 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: some coon hunters don't even recognize. And so we're gonna 163 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: talk about We're gonna talk about ploth hounds and my 164 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: specific dogs history of plot hounds and what they why 165 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: I've got these dogs because this is a bear hunting 166 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: magazine podcast, and I'm gonna tie these dogs into bear hunting, 167 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: even though these dogs have never been on bear number two. 168 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the way that we're hunting here 169 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: in the Ozark Mountains in Arkansas, with with dogs and 170 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: with hounds, and and we'll talk will weave in some 171 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: of the cultural significance of of raccoon hunting, Okay, And 172 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I think we'll maybe start there is that in the South, 173 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: raccoon you know, coon dog is kind of a culturally 174 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: iconic and has this like special place in people's hearts 175 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: in real communities. You know, coon dog, coon do oh man, 176 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: he's got a good coon dog. Well, at one time 177 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: the coon hide was worth up to twenty five dollars 178 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: in the in the in the seventies, even up to 179 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, a coon hide, Jonathan would have been 180 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: worth twenty five dollars. That was during a time period 181 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: when the average poor Southerner was probably making about three 182 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents an hour. Oh Man, And I 183 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: could I could be wrong in my I did some 184 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: research a long time ago, and that's what I recall, 185 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: but you knows, was a lot of money in nineteen 186 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: seventy for somebody that was probably making maybe twenty five 187 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: dollars a day. Okay, you get a couple of coons, 188 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: you got you got a couple of days worth. You 189 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: had a good coon dog that you could take out 190 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: a couple of nights a week in the winter and 191 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: tree three coons, four coons, one coon man. You you 192 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: might make a month's wage, you know at the salt 193 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, compared to what you're making at the sawmill 194 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: from this coon dog. And so this dog all of 195 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: a sudden had some real value in that family. He 196 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: became like a working piece of equipment. And in in 197 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: the in the further you go back in history. In 198 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: in American history, fur has been has gone up and 199 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: down in value, but I mean back in the eighteen 200 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: hundreds and all the way through the nineteen seventies when 201 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: fur prices kind of plummeted because the anti hunting communities 202 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: influence on the fur trade. So it's not that way anymore. 203 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: It's no fur today. These coons that we're hunting there week, 204 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: they they do have some market value, but they'd be 205 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: worth about probably two dollars of pelt. Wow, dramatic change. Yeah, 206 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and so these hides aren't worth money anymore now. In 207 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: different parts of the country, Jonathan, they would be worth 208 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: more like if you killed if you took a coon 209 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: way up in some of the northern states, the pelt 210 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: quality would be a whole lot better than the pelt 211 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: quality here in Arkansas because of the temperature, it's just 212 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: not cold enough here and so our coon's don't have 213 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: the fur density that northern colon would have. But you 214 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: see where I'm going with the cultural value that came 215 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: from a coon dog. Okay, And obviously it's kind of 216 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: been a you know, there's a stigma and coon hunters 217 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: that these are just like backwoods hillbillies, and you know 218 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: they were and they were. These were people that were 219 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: trying to scratch out a living from the resources that 220 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: they had, you know, and that's what I that's what 221 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: I like about it. And uh So to be a 222 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: coon hunter today is I think kind of a unique thing. 223 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: And there's a strong coon hunting culture very much so 224 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: alive all over the country where there's raccoons, and uh 225 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: there's a big competition coon hunting culture, which I'm not 226 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: really into, but I have competition coon hunted some but 227 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: but that's that's not a focus the reason, and I 228 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: want to jump right to the conservation side of why 229 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: we do what we do. And this is what I 230 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: tell all the kids that hunt with us. Coon are 231 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: they are nest predators. So one of the biggest challenges 232 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: we have right now and Arkansas is that we don't 233 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: have any turkeys, and coons are notorious nest predators, and 234 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: turkeys lather eggs on the ground, and so by removing coons, 235 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: you are given a chance for a nest of turkey 236 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: polts to survive. Um coons are because they don't have 237 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: value anymore, that very few people hunt them and trap them. 238 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: And so basically there is an unnatural amount of coons 239 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: in almost every place as compared to natural coon population 240 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: patterns that would have been here pre civilization, pre European 241 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: civilization in North America. So basically, by having farms, and 242 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: by having trash cans, and by having chicken coops, and 243 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: by having all the things that we've done to this place, 244 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: there's a ton of coons. You know. It is fascinating 245 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: how hunting works on a conservation level. That's one of 246 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: the that's one of the first things that I remember 247 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: you saying about hunting was that was the history of 248 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Boone and Crockett, I believe, and incentivizing taking older males 249 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: out of the population. And and I had no idea 250 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: about that. I had heard many times on wherever, you know, 251 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: hunters called themselves conservationists, and that I never understood that. 252 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: But that's cool to see that. It even goes to like, 253 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a raccoon of varmat, of varmat 254 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: level arm there's my knowledge. You know, there's a there's 255 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: a tenant of the North American model for wildlife conservation, 256 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: and it's called non frivolous use. So these would be 257 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: like the ethics of the North American model for wildlife 258 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: conservation that basically our whole hunting culture in North America 259 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: is built around, and people do this and they don't 260 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: even know. People have this built inside of them and 261 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: they don't even really know where it came from. But 262 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: non frivolous use, which means that any one of these 263 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: hunting dads out here would say to their kids, if 264 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: you shoot it, you're gonna skin it. You're gonna use it. 265 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna eat it. Now. With coon, we don't eat coon. 266 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I have eaten coon, but typically you're not eating eating coon. 267 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Coon is a predator. Typically we don't eat predators. Okay, 268 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: typically for you can it's like they're edible, but that's 269 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: not We're not killing this coon for meat. We will. 270 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: If we kill a coon tonight, I will skin it 271 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: and I will use that hide for personal use. I 272 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: get the hide tanned out if it's a nice hide, 273 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: and give it as a gift or use it in 274 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: some way. Um. But even if we didn't, we would 275 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: still be justified because we just need to kill coon's. 276 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: We just need to kill coons a population. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 277 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: This guy that we're hunting on a piece of private 278 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: land out here, and I texted him just a minute 279 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: ago and said, hey, we're gonna coon hunt it on 280 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: your place tonight is exact words where get them all? 281 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a landowner that's trying to manage 282 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: for turkey. He's trying to manage for quail. Quail or 283 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: ground nesting birds, and coons are varmints. They will find 284 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: and get into everything. They'll destroy turkey, gigs and nest, 285 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: and so there is a massive conservation aspect to coon 286 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: hunting aside from it just being fun and we enjoy it, 287 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: and it's a cultural experience to go on a coon hunt, 288 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: so there's a lot to it. Okay. So that's that 289 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of gives some history of of why we can 290 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: number two plothounds. I want to tell you a story 291 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: about treehounds. Most people don't understand treehounds unless they have 292 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: some connection to the hound world. So it seems like 293 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: treehounds are different than plothounds. Well, okay, jumping ahead, plot 294 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: hoound is a tree hunt. So a plothhound is a 295 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: breed of dog. Okay, plothhound is a is a u 296 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: k C registered breed of dog. And that's what I've 297 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: got back here. I've got two registered plothounds in the 298 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: back of my truck. Um. But these plothhounds are tree dogs. 299 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: So tree dog would be a characteristic of a dog 300 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: that would describe its action and behavior. So when you're 301 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: hunting a raccoon, what we're doing is we're turning these 302 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: dogs a little and they are going out and going 303 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: hunting and looking for where a coon this very night 304 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: has climbed out of a tree and gone out about 305 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: his business, walking down creeks, walking down ridge, just looking 306 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: for acorns, catching, you know, whatever he can catch to 307 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: eat or find to eat. And he's leaving scent right now. 308 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: The coon that we're gonna tree here in an hour 309 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: leaving scent somewhere. And these dogs go out and find 310 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: that scent. And when they find that scent, they have 311 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: this instinct to trail it up. Now, what makes a 312 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: hound hound, now, pay attention, young tenure over, is that 313 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: a hound barks on the track when it smells scent. 314 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: There are many dogs that are trail dogs that do 315 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: not bark on the track, and they are typically not 316 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: they're not hounds. Like there's cur dogs and fice dogs 317 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: that are tree dogs. Okay, they trail stuff, but they 318 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: don't bark on the track very little. So the characteristic 319 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: of a hound is that when he smells sent he 320 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: lets you know he's found it, okay, and you have 321 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: to train that or is that just that's just inside 322 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: of him and has been for a long long time. Um, 323 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: So they trail this. They're trailing this coon, trailling this 324 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: coon er er, we're listening to him er or or 325 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that coon knows he's being chased, 326 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: and he goes up a tree. The dogs get to 327 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: the tree, and they smell up that tree, and they 328 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: circle the tree to make sure he didn't jump out, 329 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: and they decide that he's up that tree. A tree 330 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: dog will stay at that tree and bark and tell 331 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: his master gets there. That is in contrast to a 332 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: running hound. Okay, so treehound barks at the tree, stays there, 333 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: and that is a beautiful, wonderful thing. I mean, like, 334 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what would be an example, Jonathan, is 335 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: something that that you would just be like a contoisseur 336 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: of that you would just be like, this is a 337 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. Oh man, I don't even know a good 338 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: pay a good podcast. Yes, well, a tree dog is 339 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing because they're hard to come by, and 340 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: not just because you've got a you know, a breed 341 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: of dog like plot that's that are typically tree dogs. 342 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: It actually doesn't mean they're gonna be a good tree dog. 343 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Inside of that breed. There's gonna be variations. There's gonna 344 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: be some dogs that are really strong tree dogs. Like 345 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: when an animal goes up a tree, they start barking 346 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: and they'll stay there for ten hours. Uh. Other dogs 347 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: might you know, smell it couldn't go up a tree 348 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: and might bark around there for twenty minutes and then 349 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: peel off and want to go hunting. But here's here's 350 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: the Here's the thing about a running dog, a running 351 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: hound is that when he smells sit on the ground, 352 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: he barks. When he smells where that game has gone 353 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: up a tree, He's like, well, shoot, he read up 354 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: a tree. I guess I'll go find something. And and 355 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: and so that's a pretty common typehound that people use 356 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: for different things. For running foxes, for running coles, for 357 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: running game that does not climb a tree. You don't 358 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: need a tree dog, right, And so these are tree 359 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: dogs and that that is that is valuable. And these dogs, 360 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: specifically our plothounds. And this is where I'm gonna tie plots. Well, 361 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tie this coon hunt back into bear hunting. 362 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Is that these dogs come from a long, long line 363 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: of bear and mountain lion hounds. Now have I told 364 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: you that before I knew that you had gone to 365 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: to look at a dog in like another state some 366 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: months ago, and I assumed that there would be a 367 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: reason for that some sort of pedigree or something. But right, well, 368 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: so when you're talking about a coon dog, like there 369 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: there's certain mammals that we chase with hounds that climb trees, raccoons, bears, 370 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and mountain lines. And there's some some characteristics that are 371 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: similar between dogs that would chase those animals like pretty much. Um, 372 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: and and and there's in each of those species of 373 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: animals that you're trying to trying to chase, there's going 374 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: to be there's gonna be characteristics and a dog that 375 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: you need really strong that you don't in others. Okay, 376 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: and here's where I'm getting at Fern and Jedi, because 377 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: my two plots male and female. Ferns four years old. 378 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Jeti's two or three. I think he's coming on three. Um. 379 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: All of their genealogy back for generations have been bear 380 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: in mountainin dogs, a few of them coon dogs in Kansas. 381 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: And I got these dogs almost on accident. I had 382 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: written a legendary bearhound column, the very first one for 383 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Bear Hunting magazine. We started a column called the Legendary 384 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: Bearhound Column because I wanted to include more hound content 385 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: in the magazine, and I needed content that I could 386 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: create myself. That like I could be that I didn't 387 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: have to go on a bear hunt a cow on 388 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: the side of the road just did you look, Oh 389 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: my goodness as a cow out in the ozark Um. 390 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: I needed content that I could create, and so we 391 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: started this legendary bearhound series, and I think we've made 392 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: like we've written twenty five legendary bearhound articles. The very 393 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: first legendary barhound article I wrote was about a guy 394 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: named Steve Heard and his line of plots called Bluff 395 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: Creek Plots, and Steve Heard lived in Protection, Kansas. I 396 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: called Steve Heard I'd heard about him and told him 397 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: what I was doing. I said, I want to write 398 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: a story about one of your old dogs. We wrote 399 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: a story about a dog named bear Path Gunner. Remember 400 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: that bear Path Gunner in the nineteen seventies was one 401 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: of the was a national, nationally known bear dog that 402 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: just people just knew about and wanted to breed their 403 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: dogs too, and he was just a great dog. Well, 404 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: these dogs, both of these dogs right here in the 405 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: back of my truck, have bear Path Gunner in their 406 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: ten generation pedigrees. Like I don't even want to say 407 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: how many times, but like forty times or something. Uh, 408 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: and I somebody's gonna call me and say that was wrong. Basically, 409 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: this is a line bred strain of plot hounds, which 410 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: means they when they find a good dog, they want 411 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: it over and over and over in that lineage. And 412 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: so these dogs come strong from the Bluff Creek and 413 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: Shamrock line of plots. Okay, Well, I didn't want to 414 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: bear hunt with hounds. Uh, we can't do it here 415 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: in Arkansas legally, and I never have. And but I 416 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: wanted to have my fingers in the barehound world. So 417 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: I got dogs out of this real good line of 418 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: bear dogs and I coon hunt them, because coons and 419 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: bears are actually quite similar in some ways there for 420 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: leg critters that run up trees when dogs chase them. 421 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: Bears are a little bit bigger, a little bit meaner. 422 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: Where the similarities in. Uh yeah, um. So, like I've 423 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: had a couple of litters of pups out of these 424 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: two dogs, and those pups are right now in different 425 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: parts of the country where it's legal to hunt bear uh. 426 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: And they're they're being trained his bar dogs. So Fern 427 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: and Jedi's offspring are being trained his bear dogs in 428 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: different places. So, but plothounds are really cool because they're 429 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: the only they're the only u k c. Registered hound 430 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: that didn't descend from European fox hounds. So there's multiple 431 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: breeds of hounds. Walker, black and Tan, blue, Tick, English 432 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: red Bone, all those dogs kind of descended from the 433 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: same lines of European fox hounds. Okay, and a lot 434 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: of those dogs look quite similar. Well. Plot hounds or 435 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: descendants of German dogs that came over by They were 436 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: brought over by a young German boy named Johanna's plot 437 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: seventeen fifty and as the story goes, he he brought 438 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: five dogs over from Germany that were given him to 439 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: him by his father, and the breed was never outcrossed 440 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: one time in three years. I had no idea that 441 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: that was the legend, that they came from such a 442 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: specific point in time, and yo, yeah, and and I 443 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: mean it's more than it's it's a little better than 444 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: legend because it that actually happened. Now, the thing about 445 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: outcrossing that we won't step into because there's a big controversy. 446 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: There's some people that are like, they have never been 447 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: out crossed one time from those five dogs in the 448 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: history of the plothound, which is probably didn't happen. And 449 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: then but there's other people who believe that probably most 450 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: of the plotounds that we have today came from those dogs, 451 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: and those dogs were developed and bread and the Great 452 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Smoky Mountains of North Carolina. Plot is the family name 453 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: of this. It was Johannes's Plot. They had these dogs. 454 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: There's there's a there's a range of mountains in North 455 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Carolina named after that family. And the plothounds is a 456 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: state dog of North Carolina. I had no idea, and 457 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: and so bare hunting with hounds is big in the 458 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: southern Appalachians and in North Carolina, and so like hunting 459 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: these dogs. It's like, man, you get into the Appalachians 460 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: and you start talking plots. I mean, this is like 461 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: cult type devotion to the breed these guys have. Now, 462 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: can anybody raise plothhounds? Where is it like the plothhounds? 463 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: The Plot family is still involved. That's a good question, 464 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: that's a great question. Anybody can raise plothhounds. The Plot 465 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: family is still involved. Uh, there's a lot of the 466 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: Plot family that still lives in North Carolina. Huntings, plots, 467 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: um and plots. The epicenter of the plot world is 468 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: the southern Appalachian Mountains eastern Tennessee, where from North Carolina 469 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: West Virginia, Virginia. That's kind of the epicenter of where 470 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: the plots still are and some of these really good 471 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: lyne bred strains of dogs. Are any any thoughts or 472 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: questions on that, Well, No, I had just no idea 473 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: that I always wondered where the name Plot came from, 474 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: and that it's a family name. Okay. So to me, 475 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: that's what makes like this hunt have some uniqueness and 476 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: complexity and kind of a story behind it, is that 477 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: like these brindle dogs, one of them is almost black, 478 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: the other one's brindle. There's a immense history behind it 479 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: that's really unique and um and let me just describe 480 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: this to you and this will help makes sense. Bear 481 00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: dogs are these guys that hunt bear dogs over where 482 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: all these strains, where all these strains came from, and 483 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: especially back in the eighteen hundreds and in time periods 484 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: when there wasn't much room for having a dog that 485 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: didn't produce game. Dogs were like you bred the best 486 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: dog to the best dog, and if a dog didn't 487 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: couldn't tree a coon, couldn't chase a bear. You didn't 488 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: keep him and you didn't breed him. Okay, like he 489 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: had to produce game. And so think about seventeen fifty two, 490 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: what do we weout three hundred years? Um, just about 491 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: three eight fifty We're gonna edit that part, Yes, almost 492 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: three hundred years. Envision breeding the best dogs to the 493 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: best time and time again. This would be very different 494 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: than like just a dog breeder that's breeding, you know, 495 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Schnauzer's trying to get the physical appearance of a Schnauzer 496 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: to look a certain way. Like these, a bare dog 497 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: has to be bred for athleticism, extreme endurance, grit, courage, 498 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: the courage to stand and fight a bear if it 499 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: turns and and and comes after the dog. It's got 500 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: to be a tree dog. I mean, like I gotta 501 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: have that tree instinct big time. It's got to have 502 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: a cold nose. Like you can take a line of 503 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: twenty hounds, Jonathan, and they all hounds are not created equal, 504 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: and their ability to smell scent is not created equal. 505 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: So in a line of twenty dogs, there's one that's 506 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the best and one that's gonna be the worst. 507 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: And so you're breeding for all these different characteristics that 508 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: have to be present in this one dog to make 509 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: it worth its salt. And back in the day, there 510 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: was no room to have an average dog, and so 511 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have them. So I mean they they fine 512 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: tuned these lines with dogs down extreme in an extreme 513 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: way and produced dogs like this right here and u 514 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: Fern and Jetta and it's and I'm not saying that 515 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: there exceptional dogs, but I am saying that they are 516 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: the result of very very intentional breeding for hundred two 517 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: hundred years. That's it's that's I had no idea. And 518 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: it's funny because it sounds almost just like what you 519 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: hear about for racehorse breeding, just the intentionality and the 520 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: extensive selection process that goes through and for such a 521 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, that's what. I had no idea that 522 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: that kind of I don't know, you think about like racehorses, 523 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: and you think about kind of a noble, strong tradition 524 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: and I was just totally ignorant to well, And it's 525 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: and it's not just plots. You know, all the other 526 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: breeds like if if I was if I had walker 527 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: dogs would be able to tell you similar stories. It 528 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: would just be a different story. But I mean the 529 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: plots aren't the exception. But the point is is that 530 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: these old hillbillies in the mountains that have been breeding 531 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: dogs for all these years are pretty dang smart, some 532 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: of them. And uh, and there's a lot more to 533 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: it than meets the eye, you know. And to me, 534 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: that's what's so cool about it. It's kind of this 535 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: like hidden culture that the mainstream world doesn't really know 536 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: about or care about. And uh and man, I'll tell 537 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: you what, if there is one thing that I could 538 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: keep and that I could pass on to my children 539 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: that I just love and now, I love big game hunting. 540 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean, geez, Louise, I loved to bear hunt, loved 541 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: a deer hunt. Man, I love to coon hunt. I 542 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: have more fun coon hunting than almost anything I'd do. 543 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: And it's there's there, There is a there is a 544 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: rare human pleasure when you can take a dog that 545 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: you have raised and trained and partner with that dog 546 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: to go out and acquire wildlife commodities, rare human pleasure. 547 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: And all of the dog men know what I'm talking about. 548 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: And man, that that is like to me, the essence 549 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: of the freedom that really this country represents is that 550 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: we and it's kind of been our cultural history is 551 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: that we've got we've got a lot of wild lands. 552 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: We've stewarded our wildlife resources as well, and the hunters 553 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: have the right to access that those wildlife resources. And 554 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: uh and Jonathan, you you would, I mean you know 555 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: it because you've heard me talk about it. But my 556 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: goodness to hound sports are massively under fire right now. 557 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: For real. I mean, like like for real, my kids 558 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: when they're mage could have dramatically less opportunity to do 559 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: what we're doing tonight than than I did. You know, 560 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: and that that's really sad. I mean, it's like losing 561 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: a part of your culture. And uh, and so in 562 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: in in any way it and and coon hunting is 563 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: not the biggest target. The biggest target for the hound 564 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: community is is mountain lion bear hunting. I mean they're 565 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: wanting to snuff that out. But it's no different. I mean, 566 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: if we lived out in Nevada, or if we lived 567 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: in you know, in eastern Tennessee, we we probably wouldn't 568 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: be coon hunters. We'd probably be bear hunting, you know. 569 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: But the point is that it's a it's a really unique, 570 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: really fun, really fun hunt. We're gonna turn around here. 571 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: I think I think we're gonna go back and and 572 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: here's where we're gonna start talking about what we're gonna 573 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: do tonight, is that we're gonna turn these dogs out 574 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: and we're just gonna FreeCast them on the back side 575 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: of a pond. And for whatever reason, coons are almost 576 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: always around them to water. That's usually where you find them. 577 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: Here you strike them is there around water. And these 578 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: dogs are gonna run off and go hunt, and we're 579 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: gonna sit there and we're gonna listen. And when they 580 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: first find a track and they bark, that first bark, 581 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: we would call that a strike. I would say, oh man, 582 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: Fern is struck. Okay, terminology will use you kind of struck. 583 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to use this terminology. Oh man, 584 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: I'm down. She's gonna be struck. And Fern when she 585 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: strikes a track, she's kind of squally on the track 586 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: at first, like she'll kind of squeal a little bit 587 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: and bark, and it will be kind of an irregular bark, 588 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: and you can you can tell how fresh that track 589 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: is based upon the intensity of her bark. If she 590 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: just screams out of there, just spurgargarder and just gets 591 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: further and further away. You know that they are really 592 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: close to that coon if she just gets out there 593 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: and it's just like you know, and you can tell 594 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: she's just like she's just like grubbing out this track 595 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: trying to find it and it's old, and you'll we'll 596 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: hear just move down the hall of er and then 597 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: at some point she will when they hit the tree, Jonathan, 598 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: they will do what they call a locate bark, and 599 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 1: it's extremely nuanced and hopefully we'll be able to hear it. 600 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: But a but a but a tree bark is when 601 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: that five second period when the tree bark, the locate 602 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: bark up, backing up, back up. The locate bark is 603 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: that short period of time when the dogs have decided 604 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: that the coon has gone up a tree and it's 605 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: no longer on the ground, and that it's almost like 606 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: they're excited that they found it and they let out 607 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: a long, long, extended bark and then they go into 608 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: a chop. So like Fern, she'ld be trailing. This would 609 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: be an example, Okay, she would be like, oh, oh, 610 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: she's barking, and then she finds the tree and she 611 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: goes long bark and then she well, well, well well 612 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: she starts chopping. Nice. It's to the untrained here, it's 613 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: just a dog barking. But too it's it's like, you know, 614 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: like a conscissur of wine, you know, that can just 615 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: take Oh, this is grapes from the from the heels 616 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: of Sedona, roasted in the august sun. You know. It's like, 617 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: there's the locator bark. Yes, And all my kids are 618 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: like masters and like calling Fern you know what she's doing, 619 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: what she's doing. And all these little kids that we 620 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 1: take hunting with us, you know there, I'm like, y'all 621 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: listen for the locate bark, and I mean they'll be like, 622 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: you're just located, and I mean they just get on it. 623 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: It's so much fun because it's it's it's just there's 624 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: few things in life and in the natural world where 625 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: you just have the patience to just give something your 626 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: attention that's not a computer screen or that's not um 627 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: something that gives you this like immediate gratification and you 628 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: you kind of dissect it and and can call it 629 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: and learn it and anyway something that we've really grown 630 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: to enjoy and so you're gonna see these dogs go. 631 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna turn loose and we're gonna we will 632 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: probably just kind of stand up here for a while 633 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: and let them go down off in the hollow and hunt. 634 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: We may walk off down there to them. They may 635 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: tree within two yards of us, or they might tree 636 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: five or six yards to us. But the beauty is 637 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: we don't have any hurry to get to them. Was 638 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: just take our time. They're gonna keep busy. They're gonna 639 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna once they we won't go to them until 640 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: they get treated. So we won't, you know, we we 641 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: may hear them run and they hear them do a 642 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff, but we won't go to them til 643 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: they get treated. These dogs will have these dogs will 644 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: have tracking collars on so I will know where they're 645 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: at at all times at garment tracking collars um and 646 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: so we'll be able to keep track of them. We'll 647 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: know where they're at. And let's go, let's go tricking. Yeah, 648 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: all right, you go get these tracking collars on them 649 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: so we know where they're at all the time, so 650 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: we can get them back anytime we need them back. 651 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: They'll come back if I toning them we grab that is, 652 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna go down here. There's a there's a pond 653 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: right up here, and there's a creek that flows out 654 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: of the backside of that pond, and we're gonna turn 655 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: those dogs down this hollow. And my prediction is that 656 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: they will strike down in the hollow about two yards 657 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: from us, and they'll run it up that spur hollow 658 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: back over there that way. Okay, this is where we 659 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: want them to go. It's right here. So I'm just 660 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: going to I'm gonna check and make sure that I 661 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: got them both picked up on the collar. I do. 662 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: They're both on the collar, So Jedi go get them. 663 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: Whoop m hmm, don't get them, Jesus kind of joy. Barking, 664 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: there's a strike. It's possible that they just struck right there, 665 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I think they were just 666 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: babbling a little bit. Yeah if that, if they keep barking, 667 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: they may have struck one. I think they just struck one. 668 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: I thought she was just babbling. They ain't babbling, buddy, 669 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: listen to him. They're burning it up. The dogs struck 670 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: right off the leash and went about two hundred and 671 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: fifty yards, fell in treed. Okay, we're almost directly belown. 672 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: He were a hundred and thirty yards directly below him. 673 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. That's a rough piece 674 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: of day right through here. Um, let's just see what 675 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: it looks like. They got him, Jonathan, how you got him, Treed? 676 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: They got him, Jonathan, you've turned your light on. It's 677 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: a coon. They got him. Talk to him, Fern, good girl, 678 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: good girl. Yeah at a girl, Fern, at a girl. 679 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: It's him a dog, all right. We had to work 680 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: for that one, didn't we, Yes, sir, well hold for you. 681 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: So you know that's what a tree dog looks like. 682 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: You know how long they've been treated over here? Yeah, 683 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: they're just working, man. They just they just stay there 684 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: and tree. I mean, honestly, I don't know how long. 685 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never left him there all night because 686 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: I've always gone to him. But in theory, they'd stay 687 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: there until we got here. That's what you want, two 688 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 1: in or fifty years of strategic breathing. That's right, all right, Well, 689 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: going on to your let's pop him out ty a 690 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: tree just a little bit away from the tree that 691 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: the coons up. Man, you're still happy, ask NB right here. 692 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: You were coming here with fire in the hole. After 693 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: this tree, we'd cast the dogs two more times and 694 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: tree one more coon before we called it a night. 695 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: To Coon's treed. It's ten. We're on our way home. 696 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: Jonathan closing thoughts Perceptions of coon hunting go. Man. I'll 697 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: tell you what. There's something about seeing animals that are 698 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: bred for one thing do that thing they're bred for. 699 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: Like I had never seen that before in person. I 700 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 1: had seen like videos of like rat terriers in England 701 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: that would go out and actually uh get rats at 702 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: like barns and stuff that guys would hire them for. 703 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: And to see that in since seen these dogs just 704 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: totally go for it, be totally enthralled. I mean you 705 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: had to. We had to pull them down several times 706 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: when you were trying to get him away. That's amazing. 707 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: It was amazing. And how I could through the woods too, 708 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I was telling you that I had 709 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: never really been like kind of that off trail before. 710 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: But man, we were going up bluffs and we were 711 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: checking out the I mean, we're just going, We're just 712 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: going for it, and it. I think those raccoons they 713 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: got a little strategy and them to go into high places. 714 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: Have some good mountains tonight. Yeah, we had two nice, 715 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: pretty uh adventurous walks to the tree. Indeed, I always 716 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: always like it when they get back and hard to 717 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: get to places, and so it was fun. The first 718 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: tree they they they probably twohund fifty yards, but we 719 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: had to scale a mud slick bluff that was pretty step. 720 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: And then second when they went about four hundred five 721 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: yards up a mountain, we had to we had to 722 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: go to them. It was a lot more doable. Yeah, yeah, well, 723 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: thank you for kind and this won't be I have 724 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: a feeling that we have ignited the houndsman. That's right, 725 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: that's right. Hey, thanks for listening to the Bear Hunting 726 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,959 Speaker 1: Magazine podcast. 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Yeah, he could 743 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: care less about the camera when you see him in 744 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: the YouTube videos with those long eyes and just listening 745 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: to you and giving contemplative and then not he was 746 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: jumping on that tree. Whole business. Yeah man, yeah, yea. Well, 747 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: keep the wild places wild because that's where the bears 748 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: live and the coons and the coons