Speaker 1: Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Oh wow, I've never been so horny
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. It's midday. I've just spent three hours
Speaker 1: of the mechanic. I got my tires rog I guess
Speaker 1: the doughnut off my front start really working out for me?
Speaker 1: Are so good? I'm crazy visit taking my temperature, looking
Speaker 1: at my oxygen levels, washing my hands. Hello, and welcome
Speaker 1: to Will You Accept This Rose? My name is Art Marine,
Speaker 1: and I am coming to you from my garage in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. That is, quite honestly not starting to
Speaker 1: smell that good. I could not be more delighted that
Speaker 1: it is not Monday night, and that it is not
Speaker 1: a seventeen hour weird recap marathon with Chris Harrison and
Speaker 1: his romata in like study with his disinterested son. But
Speaker 1: I am happy the upshot. If that is the price
Speaker 1: that I have to pay to spend the afternoon with
Speaker 1: these wonderful misfits, then so be it. Signed me up
Speaker 1: with us. Today is a man who begrudgingly put on
Speaker 1: his Rookie of the Year T shirt that I paid
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventeen thousand dollars for during this pandemic
Speaker 1: that is made out of cactus, as he insists, and
Speaker 1: it has his name on the back. You might know
Speaker 1: him from I Carly, You might know him from Drake
Speaker 1: and Josh. You definitely do not know him from the
Speaker 1: show that we were on called Still the King, but
Speaker 1: you probably have known him and loved him on this
Speaker 1: podcast as our Rookie of the Year, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Jerry Trainer. Yes, this shirt that you bought me that
Speaker 1: says Rookie of the Year on the front and my
Speaker 1: name Jerry on the back is made from pure hyena
Speaker 1: for and porcupine quills. Yeah, worth every penny of that dollars.
Speaker 1: And you said it's like a size. I ordered you
Speaker 1: a large, and and I really discussed like what size
Speaker 1: to get for you, And this is like maternity large.
Speaker 1: This is this is large for three humans. If you
Speaker 1: wore that to a bar, many months would it take
Speaker 1: you to get laid infinity months? Well, that is by
Speaker 1: the way, I'm really going to earn these Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year stripes tonight because, as you may or may
Speaker 1: not remember, I've never seen The Bachelorette, and this, to
Speaker 1: me was the best season of the Bachelorette. Ever, very interesting,
Speaker 1: very interesting. Okay, this was a great season the Bachelrette
Speaker 1: and with us we have a new rookie. There is
Speaker 1: a rookie to be guided by the Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: If he's not careful, he might have a Rookie Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year cactus shirt coming his ray with his
Speaker 1: name on the back. He spends his days normally not
Speaker 1: in the pandemic, side by side with one Tanne hose Na.
Speaker 1: He is a daily podcaster on The Daily Zite Guys,
Speaker 1: also on I Heart Radio. He also has a sort
Speaker 1: of a similar sister podcast to us called The four
Speaker 1: twenty Day Fiance. If you like Pott and you like
Speaker 1: the ninety Day Fiance, you're going to enjoy this podcast.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the franchise both of The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: the Bachelor at Bachelor in Paradise, but welcome to the
Speaker 1: will you accept this Rose family? Miles Gray, What a journey,
Speaker 1: What a journey. I've come home now. It's an honor.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Well. I have
Speaker 1: to say the only upshot of these tortuous, long, sort
Speaker 1: of one off episodes is that we get to lure
Speaker 1: people in who don't necessarily watch the franchise and just
Speaker 1: basically bribe them, Will you come play with us? You
Speaker 1: only need to watch one horrible long night. So, um
Speaker 1: and Katie, you're also here. Anna, here you are with Miles.
Speaker 1: You guys do co host? Is? I know? Did you
Speaker 1: dress up for him today? I did not, wearing the
Speaker 1: same outfit from when we were recording together earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just took off the hoodie I was wearing when
Speaker 1: we were talking about a couple of hours ago. So
Speaker 1: I didn't do much either. Although I am seeing a
Speaker 1: new dimension of Anna's home through her zoom call seed.
Speaker 1: When I see her, she's producer and not on Mike
Speaker 1: all the time. So I see the kitchen and now
Speaker 1: I'm in her closet. It's my closet because all my
Speaker 1: things that should be in my closet are out now. Yes, Jerry,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's a fifty fifty chance that's
Speaker 1: either actually a keyboard or it's a keyboard necktie. I
Speaker 1: can't tell. No, it's it's a it's a very expensive
Speaker 1: keyboard that shouldn't be up against the wall. Uh and
Speaker 1: a ki. Yeah, we have we have multiple sizes, so
Speaker 1: we have a tiny one on the desk and then
Speaker 1: the big one hangs off to the side. I like
Speaker 1: to think that Zach was going to wear a giant
Speaker 1: wide whale key tar ties when they get sexy for
Speaker 1: like Valentine's Day, he puts on a gigantic, extremely wide
Speaker 1: tie and nothing else. Yeah, she's doing it, She's doing it.
Speaker 1: He comes out and he's like, are you ready? And
Speaker 1: he puts like a little bow around his neck and
Speaker 1: like a giant a little bow around it, like a
Speaker 1: giant key tar tie on and then just things just
Speaker 1: like just naturally happened. Now, um Myles, will you please
Speaker 1: is this? Have you ever watched The Bachelor? I you know,
Speaker 1: it's like one of those things where I know it's
Speaker 1: I know it's cultural relevance and the pop culture power
Speaker 1: that it wields over people's consciousness. Um, I've seen like
Speaker 1: things here and there isolated. Prior to working with Tanna,
Speaker 1: I will respect her name on this part of the
Speaker 1: Earth and new to the podcast. Her name is Anna.
Speaker 1: But one summer she was dedicated to hiking and tanning.
Speaker 1: There was like a real like she had like a
Speaker 1: whole bikini wardrobe. There was like eight eight bikinis, and
Speaker 1: she was so tann that we just started calling her Tanna.
Speaker 1: And now I got her a nameplate necklaces Tanna. But
Speaker 1: you know, of course skin damage happened and now I
Speaker 1: am now no longer, so she's skinned comage. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, mild I interrupted you so um yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean prior to that obviously, working with Tanna, it's like
Speaker 1: I know so much by osmosis because without even anyone asking,
Speaker 1: she'll be like, I cannot believe it popped over, what
Speaker 1: are you? And most of the time I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll bite what okay the bachelor and I go okay um.
Speaker 1: And And before that, I used to do the thing
Speaker 1: where I would get drunk and watch the first episode
Speaker 1: of a season like every couple of years because I
Speaker 1: was new. That was the messiest part. But this is
Speaker 1: my first time like understanding the arc of a season.
Speaker 1: To me, the first night is the worst night because
Speaker 1: you just have to like suck, like you don't know
Speaker 1: who everybody is yet, like it gets interesting like a
Speaker 1: few weeks in Jerry. Yeah, overall, what did you think
Speaker 1: of your first bachelorette experience? Oh? I had uh. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was watching with some friends men and women, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I have a thought about the Bachelorette
Speaker 1: that could be considered controversial. Do I mention this? And
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, because they agreed in a sense, we
Speaker 1: want you to be authentic with us. Jerry, Okay, but
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we live in charged up time. We
Speaker 1: can cut this out. Okay, does the bachelorette feel more
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the word I'm not going to use
Speaker 1: the word natural. I mean to use the word authentic
Speaker 1: and experience, a condensed dating experience for a woman to
Speaker 1: be pursued by many men than a man to be
Speaker 1: pursued by many women, in the sense that that's sort
Speaker 1: of how the dynamic is in the world. If there's
Speaker 1: this diamond in the rough woman she kind of gets
Speaker 1: to pick and choose from the men. But that's very
Speaker 1: rare I think with men that they have many women
Speaker 1: pursuing a guy. I mean, I appreciate that actually makes
Speaker 1: me feel good that that's what you think, because in
Speaker 1: my world, like in my operating on planet Earth as
Speaker 1: a female, I think so often the guys sort of
Speaker 1: have the upper hand, and the guys that like if
Speaker 1: there's an eligible, handsome, cool, nice guy who's handsome, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a flock of ladies to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And what, Katie, what do you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you or and I always thought it
Speaker 1: was like the guys. I don't know if it's because
Speaker 1: women maybe feel a little bit more empathy, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It does feel like men usually have
Speaker 1: women flocking to them, but it's maybe because each sex
Speaker 1: has their own way of saying And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: feel like no one. I mean, You're probably right, it
Speaker 1: probably is just our own individual you know, objective, subjective.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, I think The Bachelor maybe
Speaker 1: reflects and I'm gonna get heavy here a little bit
Speaker 1: more of like the nature of patriarchy culturally, that the
Speaker 1: man is the focal point and that women are tending
Speaker 1: to this man or pursuing this man. And I think
Speaker 1: that I think that reflects just sort of the sort
Speaker 1: of gender dynamics in this country or the culture. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, like to what Jerry saying, is that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, women are able to choose the men that
Speaker 1: they want to be with. If you're a guy, choosing
Speaker 1: like them. I don't know, Like it's more in the
Speaker 1: sense that I feel like there is more, Uh, there's yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I've always found myself pursue. I
Speaker 1: found myself in the position I saw on the screen
Speaker 1: of me pursuing a girl with like eight other dudes.
Speaker 1: That's That's the thing is I feel like a guy
Speaker 1: the individual males experience is that we find a woman
Speaker 1: and we're after that, Whereas I feel like women's experience
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about their life dating, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this is a condensed version of real life.
Speaker 1: Women kind of can pick and choose and they can
Speaker 1: date this guy and then but this guy is kind
Speaker 1: of pursuing them over a year and they can really
Speaker 1: hone and find the one that fits in their life,
Speaker 1: where I don't think that it exists for dudes. I
Speaker 1: love That's where I love having you guys on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I love getting that point of like, I love hearing
Speaker 1: it actually makes me hopeful to hear that because I
Speaker 1: think as a late bloomer, I certainly always felt in
Speaker 1: like less than like you know what I mean, It
Speaker 1: took me along. I never felt like the one that
Speaker 1: was getting pursued. You're a diamond in the rough. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and I would win when you wear that T shirt.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not you wear a keytar, a giant key tar tie. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would because I know what you like. Before we
Speaker 1: get started, I also want to say there was huge
Speaker 1: news in the Bachelor franchise this week. Finally after forty
Speaker 1: fucking seasons. And what's interesting is there's twenty five seasons
Speaker 1: of male of Bachelor's and fifteen seasons of Bachelorettes, which
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that adds up. But I don't
Speaker 1: get that they started the Bachelorette like years later. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so that's insane to me. But so after forty seasons
Speaker 1: of the whole franchise, they finally cast their first black
Speaker 1: male lead, which is appalling that it took forty seasons.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited that they finally did. And there is
Speaker 1: a an Instagram account that please can that has that
Speaker 1: there's so much more work to be done. There's this
Speaker 1: Instagram account called batched at Batched Diversity. We talked about
Speaker 1: it last week, but that's so that there's actually is
Speaker 1: more real change within the system that they are asking
Speaker 1: for thirty five percent of all of the contestants to
Speaker 1: be black, indigenous people of color. That they want there
Speaker 1: to be equitable screen time, They want the people on
Speaker 1: the crew to be a more like a diverse crew,
Speaker 1: that people are paid more equitably, that people have mental
Speaker 1: health resources to help with being so like, just so
Speaker 1: that it's not just like a one and done, like okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know here, Okay, you get that, Like with Rachel Lindsay,
Speaker 1: they gave us like there was one amazing bachelorette and
Speaker 1: then they went back to all like these white pageant queens,
Speaker 1: like it would be such a better franchise if it
Speaker 1: actually looked like the world, and so please go to
Speaker 1: bache diversity. They sign their petition, tell your friends spread
Speaker 1: the words so that like that they don't just do
Speaker 1: lip service like that, they actually make changes. Anna, Katie,
Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there was kind of a weird thing where I almost
Speaker 1: wish they had waited to reveal that there's going to
Speaker 1: be a black bachelor, like around the time where the
Speaker 1: bachelor would normally be announced, because right now it felt like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well here's a black bachelor, and you're like Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, like cool, but like very weirdly opportunistic, and
Speaker 1: it feels like I don't know if this is genuine
Speaker 1: until I see the progress being made, Like I will
Speaker 1: know how genuinely are when you when I see it
Speaker 1: in the casting, Like if you if you take Matt
Speaker 1: James and you give him white women, I'll be like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: there you go. That was a one time thing that
Speaker 1: you were just giving it because you felt societal pressure.
Speaker 1: Let's see who they cast for Claire by the way
Speaker 1: that it seems like they can't get anybody, but like,
Speaker 1: let's see what they actually cast for Claire, Katie. Do
Speaker 1: you I listened to that podcast that you sent of Rachel,
Speaker 1: Lindsay and Beta, which was very it was really interesting,
Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy. Rachel has been doing a bunch of podcasts
Speaker 1: and they've all been fascinating. Um. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: think I agree with Ana that until we see who
Speaker 1: they're casting in the show, because I mean, it just
Speaker 1: needs to be way more diverse in general, like for
Speaker 1: like you said, for Claire's, for Matts, for everybody, and
Speaker 1: behind the scenes too, they mentioned that it's very white,
Speaker 1: so you know, until they just make a change overall
Speaker 1: amongst the entire franchise. You know, that's what I want
Speaker 1: to see. And then I guess we'll know if they
Speaker 1: actually took it seriously or not. Yeah, is like the
Speaker 1: way the show works. Like when they're vetting somebody to
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor or bachelorette, they obviously are taking into
Speaker 1: account their preferences for dating. So isn't there on some
Speaker 1: level two they should be like I'd imagine people are
Speaker 1: answering like, oh, I don't know how comfortable I am
Speaker 1: dating out of my race, and they're still like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that someone will consider for the show, versus someone who's
Speaker 1: that already, like someone who's already more inclusive in how
Speaker 1: they would date already landed show naturally to begin diversifying,
Speaker 1: That's what Rachel Lizzie was saying and whatever. And it's
Speaker 1: like that you don't want to have seen somebody's very first,
Speaker 1: you know, like like oh, okay, this is my first,
Speaker 1: this is a straight you know, like just have somebody
Speaker 1: like this is how they just cast. There's so many
Speaker 1: people to pick from, like cast somebody that truly my
Speaker 1: My my feeling on that is, why don't Why isn't
Speaker 1: the contestant involved in the casting because I think even
Speaker 1: just the superficial headshot level, you're like yes or no
Speaker 1: they are. I don't think so because usually usually a
Speaker 1: lot of people are cast before they even announced the
Speaker 1: person it's going to be, because they are constantly casting
Speaker 1: and then they you know, and then they I think
Speaker 1: that person then just shifts their attention to like a
Speaker 1: Peter or something. But I think with Claire and Matt,
Speaker 1: these are going to be the first two that like
Speaker 1: people know who they are because they were announced a
Speaker 1: while ago, and now because of the pandemic, I think
Speaker 1: the casting system has you know, it's it's the time
Speaker 1: span is a lot more than usual, so like people
Speaker 1: can actually you know, and also on top of that,
Speaker 1: they need to fucking vet these people. I don't want
Speaker 1: another Lee showing up with his racist tweets on Rachel's season,
Speaker 1: like how dare you book a racist or cast a
Speaker 1: racist on the only female black bat Shurettes fucking season? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And his tweets came out and like like they then
Speaker 1: the franchise didn't she had to speak out, Like the
Speaker 1: franchise didn't apologize. They made her call him out. Mike
Speaker 1: Flice Mike Flice, the guy who created this as Heidi
Speaker 1: Flace's brother. Um, and he's been like accused of domestic
Speaker 1: battery and so like, it's not a great guy, So
Speaker 1: welcome to the fantise alco calling accepted the rose. I
Speaker 1: do feel like we'll see the proof that. I feel
Speaker 1: like the real proof will be in the pudding of
Speaker 1: like Claire's season of like all right, if you're really
Speaker 1: saying you want to change the show, and not like okay, okay,
Speaker 1: look you get a black bachelor, like al right, so
Speaker 1: start now, you know when we start with the very
Speaker 1: next season, his Claire season. So so let's see. Let's also,
Speaker 1: can I just say one more thing. I watched that
Speaker 1: Good Morning America special where they introduced Matt, and I
Speaker 1: did not not notice that they parade Okay, he's a
Speaker 1: black man, but his mom is white, and they paraded
Speaker 1: his mom out like sees a mom's boy. But and
Speaker 1: it's like, you think, I don't like who you? Who did?
Speaker 1: They Usually they never show you the parents unless they're
Speaker 1: trying to be like, don't worry, he's got a white mom.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you serious? They brought his mom out?
Speaker 1: They showed a ton of photos of her and them together,
Speaker 1: being like see that's his mom. Don't worry a safe choice,
Speaker 1: Like it was so transparent, Like I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you guys don't even hype, Like when do you ever
Speaker 1: show anyone with their mom on their show or their dad?
Speaker 1: So I really expect I hope Peter's mom right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well she was a bit of a character. You know.
Speaker 1: They really wanted to give me that. Matt James is
Speaker 1: super handsome and I can't waste someone. Yeah, he's actually
Speaker 1: I was like, he's so hot. I feel like he's
Speaker 1: our best bachelor we've ever gotten. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he is really attractive. I was like the
Speaker 1: most vanilla guy, Like they're the blandest, like the like
Speaker 1: the softest, safest like boys, Like this guy is so handsome.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, okay, here we got the real. The proof, though,
Speaker 1: will also be when you're reading statistics about the breakdown
Speaker 1: of bachelor seasons and it actually says something like, oh
Speaker 1: and you know, thirty percent were people of color and
Speaker 1: it was actually women. That's when the proof. Because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of these companies get too caught up
Speaker 1: in like, well, we'll make it right right now, right now,
Speaker 1: for now, then we can backslide. That's why I think
Speaker 1: because to me, I think again as if they if
Speaker 1: they do start to at least cast more of the
Speaker 1: cast because they usually pull, like, then they'll have more
Speaker 1: people to pull from to go to Paradise to be
Speaker 1: the next lead, like of all races, like like like
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different kinds of people to
Speaker 1: see than just pageant girls. You know, mentioned like when
Speaker 1: they would be like a gay bachelor, bachelorette or anything.
Speaker 1: They had their first love interest, they had their first
Speaker 1: like that's a question for Juan Pablo. Frankly, they had
Speaker 1: two women fall in love and paradise, but two beautiful
Speaker 1: blonde two beautiful blonde women and they had a proposals
Speaker 1: the mickey only the blonds. Yeah, exactly, I think Frankly,
Speaker 1: they're just needs to be more gingers. Anna and I said, know,
Speaker 1: are watching Bachelor US no Bachelorette in New Zealand right now,
Speaker 1: and they're the hottest ginger on there. It's insane, Like
Speaker 1: it's so weird that the hottest person is a ginger, okay,
Speaker 1: and the bachelorette there is a hot ginger Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go, Here we are. Um, it's Caitlin season. We're
Speaker 1: back at Chris Harrison's house that does look like the
Speaker 1: lobby at the Ramada Inn, with his novel The Perfect
Speaker 1: Letter displayed as the only book in his study, with
Speaker 1: piles and piles of dying roses on his desk, posted
Speaker 1: by his son who hates him that what's named he named?
Speaker 1: His name is in Harrison's Jason Josh, Yes, his name
Speaker 1: is Harrison Harrison. Harrison Harrison, who clearly is like origin.
Speaker 1: You know that kid is just like getting high in
Speaker 1: their basement with their friends. Hates his dad. I love
Speaker 1: his one word answer like happy to be here, Harrison Harrison. Great,
Speaker 1: let's go. I didn't wear shoes tonight, wasn't it? Wasn't
Speaker 1: it Katie? That was who was texting me last night?
Speaker 1: Just mean, like you know that this is like his
Speaker 1: son's like it's his dumb internship of the summer and
Speaker 1: he hates doing that, like you would just tell he
Speaker 1: hates like he hates his His posture was so defeated
Speaker 1: to when he's like, and I'm here with my one
Speaker 1: man crew, my son, Josh, how you doing tonight? And
Speaker 1: he was just sort of like, yeah, it was painful
Speaker 1: for teenager. Please look at the art in this room.
Speaker 1: He has so much money, but he buys that money
Speaker 1: paint and yeah, you brought up that book. What is
Speaker 1: that book? That was just so aggressively like, see that's
Speaker 1: my name and that's a book. You can buy it.
Speaker 1: So I looked it up perfect and you can buy
Speaker 1: it now. I looked it up. You can't buy it new.
Speaker 1: It's out of print. Nicholas, what is it? Who's that writer?
Speaker 1: Nicholas Sparks. It's like, it's like the letter. It's like
Speaker 1: it's it's like a it's like a Ryan Gosling, Um,
Speaker 1: what's her name? The Canadian when they were what's it
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling? The notebook, It's like the notebook And yeah,
Speaker 1: he wrote like a it's like a romance. It's like
Speaker 1: a lady that goes who has her heartbroken, goes back
Speaker 1: to her hometown and finds love. And you can't buy it, knew,
Speaker 1: you can buy it used and I like, I like
Speaker 1: that it's called a perfect letter. And he constantly throughout
Speaker 1: the episode is like using the power of suggestion to
Speaker 1: be like, we're going to tease these love letters and
Speaker 1: then Nick later is just like they do their emails, right,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like I'm writing this with
Speaker 1: a quill by candle light or something. This is a
Speaker 1: Google I had a Google search these. Then it's the
Speaker 1: beginning of the journey. And you see, this was why
Speaker 1: it was such a great season and I should for those.
Speaker 1: This was my first season I ever watched, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to watch it, and I heard like, oh,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, you have to watch it. There's two bachelorettes.
Speaker 1: And I was like, fine, fine, what that was a
Speaker 1: fun twist for the night, Like it was very cruel,
Speaker 1: but very cruel, very cruel. But so you've got Britt
Speaker 1: who is beautiful and gorgeous, but like to me, I
Speaker 1: mean I would have gotten out of that limo and
Speaker 1: be lined for her. I think Caitlyn as cute as
Speaker 1: a button. Once Caitlin laughed that was it. That was it?
Speaker 1: Her spunky like, I was like, oh I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm in love with her now, Miles, who did you like?
Speaker 1: I like Caitlin for sure. To Britt had something not
Speaker 1: like I don't know, she wasn't she didn't feel unique
Speaker 1: to me. She felt I was like my first instinct
Speaker 1: was like, you look like Vanessa Manilo's younger sister that
Speaker 1: like couldn't get out of her older sister's shadow or
Speaker 1: something was her vibe and I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I got very caddy, and I was like, I like
Speaker 1: Britt already. Yeah, I agree with you. Because Caitlin was
Speaker 1: like a real girl. She's she's a dancer, she's from Canada.
Speaker 1: I like her little nose, Pierre saying like, she's just
Speaker 1: so cute, and she was so likable and so her
Speaker 1: personality is was set her apart. She was like our
Speaker 1: most authentic bachelorette I feel like we ever had. She
Speaker 1: was charming, she was funny and like even you know,
Speaker 1: she was even a good sport when the first guy
Speaker 1: who came out like made a beeline for Britt and
Speaker 1: then she's standing they're not being picked, but was like
Speaker 1: you felt for her in the moment, but she was
Speaker 1: gracious and they were nice to each other. I thought
Speaker 1: the women yea. And her reaction when Chris told her
Speaker 1: that she won was so perfect. It was she was
Speaker 1: excited and then immediately concerned for Britt, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you're you win. Watching her call her mom was so lovable.
Speaker 1: She was so charming and she was concerned for brit
Speaker 1: It just made her so much like she had a
Speaker 1: huge heart. Um and and it was sweet watching so
Speaker 1: even though they did the straight first of all, an
Speaker 1: unnecessarily the show should be two hours and unnecessarily long
Speaker 1: show that. Then they edit out the ending, which was insane.
Speaker 1: They just cut out I'm I'm on the opposite side.
Speaker 1: Oh god, look at there. So they eded out the ending.
Speaker 1: But watching Sean, who was the guy that she ended
Speaker 1: up with, like get out and go talk to her,
Speaker 1: like it was fun sort of watching that first night.
Speaker 1: They did have good chemistry. He they cut out the
Speaker 1: part where he said that when she got cut from
Speaker 1: her season that she was like. He was like, I'm
Speaker 1: coming for you, Caitlin. You know that he he really
Speaker 1: he super fan came there for Caitlin. Well he said
Speaker 1: it when he walked up to her, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Yeah. Apparently he took a picture
Speaker 1: of this TV screen and he made a little like
Speaker 1: picture or something that said I'm coming for you, like
Speaker 1: of when she got cut, Like he just he he
Speaker 1: really liked her. That is a level of alpha confidence.
Speaker 1: I just don't get like I'm like watching someone on
Speaker 1: TV and then taking a picture of the TV and
Speaker 1: being like, here I come. I'm going to l A.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet you and I'm gonna make you my wife.
Speaker 1: Like wow, okay, we call those stalkers normally. I came
Speaker 1: here for you and I will achieve my goal to me,
Speaker 1: you will give me three children. So in that sequence
Speaker 1: when they did the rap thing, I remember the guys
Speaker 1: like this at him, was like he called him a
Speaker 1: fan or something and was like oh and for me
Speaker 1: not seeing anything, I was like, oh, that was not
Speaker 1: that's a that's a dis Yeah. He was like a stalker.
Speaker 1: He was like a super fair. He was like a
Speaker 1: super fat So no wonder he was so okay. And
Speaker 1: now it's see, these are the things that I was
Speaker 1: missing that I felt I was robbed of with the
Speaker 1: way they unfold that I have to say, to be
Speaker 1: fair to you, this was such a great season that
Speaker 1: I think it's not fun to watch something in a
Speaker 1: two hour There's a reason it's multiple episodes, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't to me, I don't think it really works
Speaker 1: in this format. That's just me, but it is what
Speaker 1: it is. Um watching it back Anna and Katie watching
Speaker 1: that Cocktail Hour, it felt like ben Z wanted Britt
Speaker 1: and was disappointed when it was Caitlin. Did you notice
Speaker 1: that Benz seemed like he wanted Britt. I felt like
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys kind of liked Britt more.
Speaker 1: Um I was. I was a little surprised, like they
Speaker 1: and I swear to god, it looked like Ben Higgins
Speaker 1: put a rose in Britt's box, even though he said
Speaker 1: it was going to be Caitlin. I was confused by
Speaker 1: that as well. But yeah, Ben, I think maybe he
Speaker 1: just like both of them, you know, maybe he's just
Speaker 1: open to either. He seems easy going. Yeah, so then
Speaker 1: they should. Then they go. So she gets it and
Speaker 1: she goes. Much like real life, by the way, much
Speaker 1: like real life, you just have to adapt. You We're
Speaker 1: sort of open to whatever. You know, what, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Who's who's in the bar tonight? It's
Speaker 1: it's I'll take it, Harrison, Harrison, beat it. You're on.
Speaker 1: You're on my turf. Now put some shoes on. She
Speaker 1: goes to see Amy Schumer was the son not wearing
Speaker 1: any shoes, was he? No? He was. Chris Harrison was
Speaker 1: barefoot under the desk. I don't know if you noticed
Speaker 1: what he really really? Yeah he was. I didn't see.
Speaker 1: I was looking for the bare feet. Was he really?
Speaker 1: I texted you I said it was a joke that
Speaker 1: he's like wearing basketball shorts too. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was just waiting he was actually not wearing I couldn't
Speaker 1: find it totally barefoot. So then she goes and she
Speaker 1: sees Amy Schumer and they kept then Chris Harrison through
Speaker 1: I would Amy Shimmer was so cute. It was fun
Speaker 1: to see her, and it was interesting seeing her five
Speaker 1: years ago, like she was already super famous, but five
Speaker 1: years less famous. It was interesting to see her on
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Um, you know, Nikki was also in that right,
Speaker 1: remember Yeah, they didn't initially the whole thing, but she
Speaker 1: was there. But they kept sort of insinuating, and I
Speaker 1: felt like there was a lot of sort of vague
Speaker 1: they're still kind of slut shaming her, where they'd be
Speaker 1: like Caitlin season wasn't all talk, you know, It's like
Speaker 1: they would do that before she went basically like don't
Speaker 1: forget we listen to her while she got boned in
Speaker 1: a Hilton, like like unlike the Fantasy Suite. She was
Speaker 1: miked and we heard it, like I just they couldn't
Speaker 1: stop kind of doing innuendos, like it was not just
Speaker 1: fun in games, things got physical. It was it was uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: was it because like there's just the nature of the
Speaker 1: show was a sort of so conservative, Like it was
Speaker 1: like there was the sanctity of the Fantasy Suite because
Speaker 1: I kept hearing them reiterated's like and I mean she
Speaker 1: just had sex like a human being with agency. I
Speaker 1: mean rewatching it back because again I never this was
Speaker 1: my first season rewatching it back. I'm like, yeah, she
Speaker 1: had sex to him, like and by the way they
Speaker 1: act like it never happened. This season before was Juan
Speaker 1: Pablo and Claire, We're we're pretty sure they fucked in
Speaker 1: the ocean, Like, Anna, didn't you notice that, Like this
Speaker 1: was never happened except for like six months ago in
Speaker 1: Thailand when Claire knocked on his door and they went
Speaker 1: like at least minimum like got fingered in the waves,
Speaker 1: like what like what it just felt it felt like
Speaker 1: they were racing that that it all just happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean it wasn't fingered in the waves of
Speaker 1: Christopher Cross Soong that's my parents first dance was to
Speaker 1: otherwise thing good in the way. It's like islands in
Speaker 1: the stream. What you mean the waves? I my god,
Speaker 1: you believe Okay? Anyway, if that sand or your knuckles,
Speaker 1: I accept you, and we even die on each other
Speaker 1: getting fingyed by waves. That might be the title of
Speaker 1: this episode. Okay, alright, so then, so then why I
Speaker 1: forgot about this storyline which was such a great storyline,
Speaker 1: the loving the weirdest bromance between j J and Clint
Speaker 1: in the house, the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it so much. First of all,
Speaker 1: Clint was so handsome, he looked like Heath Ledger. Totally
Speaker 1: forgot about them. J J was a former investment banker.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened he lived. I remember he lived in his mom's basement,
Speaker 1: and I think he was a dad. I think he
Speaker 1: had some kids, Katie, what do you say? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a dad who I think he was divorced, and
Speaker 1: he lived in his mom's basement, and he was a
Speaker 1: former investment and then he came to remember. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of euphemistic occupations like I saw that other guy
Speaker 1: Sean E was an amateur sex coach. I remember, um
Speaker 1: Robbie was an aspiring social media participants participants are they
Speaker 1: just are the editors being shady produce that. I think
Speaker 1: it's also like a way for them to kind of
Speaker 1: like insult, like that you're a loser. They've had like
Speaker 1: chicken enthusiasts they had yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, aspiring social
Speaker 1: media participate Bro, you can do it, just post something.
Speaker 1: I just hit that tweet. But you can lose it all, man,
Speaker 1: you can lose it all. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: hashtag and man, I just don't know what to say. Hysteria.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. That also kind of feel like that they
Speaker 1: were implying he was there for the wrong reasons. It's
Speaker 1: like this guy just wants to get on Instagram and
Speaker 1: get a lot of followers, so you know how that goes,
Speaker 1: Like you're completely calling it out Like first trap loser
Speaker 1: guy with like high water pants and a Falcon swoop hair. Dude,
Speaker 1: just like okay, so j J and Clint Clint. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he does for a living, but he's
Speaker 1: sort of like a heath Ledger stand in and j J.
Speaker 1: Is a divorced dad living in his parents said it's
Speaker 1: a former investment banker, and they just felt for each
Speaker 1: other and they were like hang out on their little
Speaker 1: shorty shorts and the hot tub. And then I said, um,
Speaker 1: I love turtles, and somebody said turtles are the best
Speaker 1: and uh and they were like like literally, I'm a
Speaker 1: turtle guy. Turtles are awesome like that and and and
Speaker 1: like Villain's got a villa and basically that. They were
Speaker 1: just where they're sitting like nestled in the couch and
Speaker 1: they're like doing this like jiu jitsu handlock situation, like no, no, no, man,
Speaker 1: now I belong to you. You own me right now,
Speaker 1: right you got me like locked in, you own me.
Speaker 1: It was just like they're gonna kiss right now. The
Speaker 1: hot tub talk to that body language reminded me as
Speaker 1: like a teenage boy like hitting on a girl, where
Speaker 1: like I think JJ was like leaning back at the
Speaker 1: edge of the hot tub and clints like standing in
Speaker 1: it kind of like playing with the water and holding
Speaker 1: his own shoulder like I don't know, Like that's so
Speaker 1: cool that you like turtles too. I was like I
Speaker 1: was like almost like y'all, y'all just don't have the
Speaker 1: vocabulary to express your love for each other properly, Like
Speaker 1: you're basically there, but your toxic masculinity has only given
Speaker 1: you these tools and being like, dude on jiu jitsu you,
Speaker 1: but I will also feel the warmth of your hand.
Speaker 1: I love can I just sitting on the couch with
Speaker 1: your friend and they're like, you belong to me. You're
Speaker 1: in my luck now and now like I'm your captive
Speaker 1: like saying that, but arden, I don't mind because I'm
Speaker 1: also a turtle guy. Awesome. I could only hope that
Speaker 1: you would be doing it. We're in your Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year T shirt and your kidfore tie. Drink it
Speaker 1: in because this thing is getting retired tonight. You have
Speaker 1: to cut it into like a half like a crop
Speaker 1: top and wear it to the beach. We're hanging it
Speaker 1: as like a banner up in the rafters. I want
Speaker 1: it back. I want it back. No, you can't have
Speaker 1: it would be my edgy sleep shirt. Okay, okay, but
Speaker 1: I mean j J. We're actually, you know, saying things
Speaker 1: people that love each other would like. He wass saying, dude,
Speaker 1: now you belong to or I belong to you? But
Speaker 1: rather than like a nice embrace, it was like an
Speaker 1: aggressive aggiro hold. It's like now, bro, look dude, you
Speaker 1: got me. Dude, you got me now first, like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm in the palm of your hands. It was putty.
Speaker 1: It was really one of my favorite sterialized I wish
Speaker 1: we had more like that because it was. It was
Speaker 1: also with these two sort of like odd alpha males
Speaker 1: that were dicks, Like they were such dick to the
Speaker 1: other guys and you're like, what is happening here? Like
Speaker 1: it was they were so mad at what they actually
Speaker 1: were that they had to be hateful. You know, how
Speaker 1: bad were they to each other? Because again I didn't
Speaker 1: see that dimension. I just saw the bromance. But it's
Speaker 1: when she was like when thirteen out of fifteen people
Speaker 1: in the house or saying, you guys sucks. They were dicks.
Speaker 1: They were they were only nice to each other, and
Speaker 1: they were really elitist, like only they were lost in
Speaker 1: their own little like Clinton JJ world like outside of
Speaker 1: this bubble, like everybody's a piece of ship, but you
Speaker 1: j J. And I love when Tanner manned up and
Speaker 1: he was like, dude, how much it like, how much
Speaker 1: of a piece of ship is j J that he
Speaker 1: throws like his like the love of his life on
Speaker 1: the bus and that was devastated, and it just says
Speaker 1: you should apologize, and like the and and like the
Speaker 1: look of tears was in both of their eyes when
Speaker 1: they got cut and then also like the like a
Speaker 1: betrayal of like you just like I was gonna JJ
Speaker 1: sticks around right for like a while, but he but
Speaker 1: he like completely fucked over his buddy, which I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like that where it was like they were
Speaker 1: such bros. And then he comes in and she says,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that, you know, this is kind of
Speaker 1: tainting the evening, but you know he's gonna go and
Speaker 1: just goes, yeah, you also an apology, bro, I think,
Speaker 1: and the guy the look on Clint's face, like what
Speaker 1: are you doing, dude? And then the tears was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Whatever was JJ's attempt to assimilate, Like, Okay, I've I've
Speaker 1: alienated everyone in the house and everyone has seen that
Speaker 1: I've like fallen in love with the man, which was
Speaker 1: like the surprise of like the like the surprise high
Speaker 1: point of this is in love with Clint. But now
Speaker 1: everybody hates me. I've fallen in love with I've been
Speaker 1: a tool, so now I'm going to betray Clint so
Speaker 1: I can try to hang for three minutes. It was
Speaker 1: biblical like. There was little like tears in their eyes.
Speaker 1: It was instant. It was like he's out. I gotta
Speaker 1: save myself. I hate you, bro, and I'd never like
Speaker 1: turtles get out. It just breaks your heart too, because
Speaker 1: I feel like they really there. There may have been
Speaker 1: something there and then and you know, because the way
Speaker 1: j J afterwards and his stellar um coping skills that
Speaker 1: he displays when he punches himself in the face to
Speaker 1: crying on camera himself, that's right, that's rights. Some fucking
Speaker 1: sucked himself. JA is crying right now. Is literally like you.
Speaker 1: It's so much easier for the two of you to
Speaker 1: look each other in the eye and say I love
Speaker 1: you than to go through all that. You go through
Speaker 1: all that. He had to punch himself in the face
Speaker 1: and it's like he's punching like you're not gay man,
Speaker 1: those feelings. It was just a weird thing he had.
Speaker 1: It was like a shadow play and witchcraft, and he
Speaker 1: was like black magic. He was just like he had
Speaker 1: you in some kind of spell, like fucking like, man,
Speaker 1: I remember who you are. You're JJ, You're a former investor, baker,
Speaker 1: you live with your mom, your ex wife, suing your
Speaker 1: prowl Amonia supported in three weeks, Like just make it Paradise,
Speaker 1: Just make it to Paradise. Villain Stoke out a villain.
Speaker 1: They don't anna tell us everything? What is in your heart? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: The thing where afterward where Clint confronts j J. J
Speaker 1: J has trying to apologize, it's the sad thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. I can't believe you, man,
Speaker 1: we can't come back from this. And J just like
Speaker 1: I don't know who I was. It was like so
Speaker 1: unbelievable that I was like, is even going on? Like
Speaker 1: the turnip, J was like, okay, you are a bad
Speaker 1: Like everything was like these are just bad people. But
Speaker 1: it was sad, like I do hope they reconciled afterward.
Speaker 1: You know, there's no coming back from that. You guess
Speaker 1: that's right. They must have been ashamed also, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're so alpha that you have that captured on
Speaker 1: film and have their bros back home at their bro
Speaker 1: bars be like you know they were like I was
Speaker 1: playing the game, man, like that was all act. I
Speaker 1: did that on purpose, Like there's no way that they've
Speaker 1: been like kind of outed and then they got betrayed.
Speaker 1: It was so outlandish. It was so outlandish though that
Speaker 1: I thought, is this were they just cast? And did
Speaker 1: they write this stuff for them? Feels like it, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I've never seen anything like that. They
Speaker 1: really wanted air time, But that's that's that's a first
Speaker 1: of a way to go about it. Him put himself
Speaker 1: in the face though, just show you some of the psychologists.
Speaker 1: It's truly like I've never been around guys like this,
Speaker 1: and it's like I've heard tell of bros like this
Speaker 1: who are just so aggressive and intense that they out
Speaker 1: here and that's how they behave because it's like he
Speaker 1: got a glimpse of something he had never acknowledged or
Speaker 1: something clearly. And I think what was weird is that
Speaker 1: him punching himself like you're saying, and it comes right
Speaker 1: after the most intense like examination of their betrayal of friendship, um,
Speaker 1: where he's just gobsmacked and it's almost like JJ is
Speaker 1: just if he could, he would have got on his
Speaker 1: knees and probably would have been like bro dude, I'll
Speaker 1: do anything. Dude, please back in the lock. I belong
Speaker 1: to you. Put me back in the lock. I belong
Speaker 1: to you. And you know villains are gonna build. But
Speaker 1: this time I builled a little too hard man, And
Speaker 1: I need you to know that. He walked up at
Speaker 1: one point and said to Clinton, look, I'm wearing my
Speaker 1: power socks that and then oh my god, how and
Speaker 1: then how clant his whole tactic was to ignore Caitlin
Speaker 1: all day after and like be like a real like
Speaker 1: a real piece of ship after they made out in
Speaker 1: the hot tub. And then yeah, he completely threw his friend.
Speaker 1: I loved Tanner saying is an unloyal dick. Unloyal dick
Speaker 1: threw his best friend under the bus and he was
Speaker 1: weeping and punching himself in the face. I mean, before
Speaker 1: we go to commercial break, was there anything, yes, Katie,
Speaker 1: did they show this usen? I can't remember, but there
Speaker 1: was like a scene and like after the credits when
Speaker 1: this season was on where they showed them in a
Speaker 1: hot tub together and they were popping each other's back acne.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Nobody like, wow, this is too close.
Speaker 1: We didn't have our podcast then, so This isn't something
Speaker 1: that we've ever broken down with other people because I
Speaker 1: this was the first season I ever watched the show.
Speaker 1: We had the podcast on that one we started right
Speaker 1: after we started on Ben Higgins. Wow. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: have this memory of, like, you know, after the after
Speaker 1: the credits, they always show like a funny scene, and
Speaker 1: I swear there's like a memory of them in a
Speaker 1: hot tub together and they're like poffing each other's pimples
Speaker 1: on their back. Oh my god. I have to say
Speaker 1: this conversation has made that three hour torture last night
Speaker 1: worth it so far. We'll be back after the break.
Speaker 1: Oh Bones Zone. Time for the Bone Zone. Alright, So
Speaker 1: we're back and Chris Harrison and Harrison Harrison. Um, they're back,
Speaker 1: and they're a horrible Uh they're horrible Romata in Lobby
Speaker 1: and uh they have on the most exciting too, for
Speaker 1: of Hannah Ann and Madison. I mean, nobody cares and
Speaker 1: I love that Hannah and I feel like Hannah Anne
Speaker 1: got a slightly new face. It was there like I
Speaker 1: did not recognize her. I literally was like, we Hannah,
Speaker 1: because like they know in my head, I got confused, like, wait,
Speaker 1: who's Hannah Ann and then I looked it up and
Speaker 1: I was like, why does she look so different? Somebody
Speaker 1: tweeted us asking if she'd become a Kardashian. I don't know,
Speaker 1: if it's like makeup, maybe a little, a little. The
Speaker 1: one on the left left, the one on the left
Speaker 1: who said her ms were open, yes here again, I'm
Speaker 1: not got to know their names. I was just like,
Speaker 1: the one on the left is the d m S.
Speaker 1: And the one on the right I couldn't remember to
Speaker 1: the one on the right. I just felt like and
Speaker 1: it was a reminder of how fun this show was
Speaker 1: before it got super duper Christian. Like before before they
Speaker 1: brought so much heavy you know, there should be a
Speaker 1: separation of church and state, like Bachelor, you know, like
Speaker 1: just everybody do your thing. But this was so much
Speaker 1: more fun this season when that wasn't another character in
Speaker 1: the season. Don't you were great? Jerry? Having not seen
Speaker 1: really any previous seasons, I can't really speak to that specifically.
Speaker 1: All I can say is I was uninterested in hearing
Speaker 1: what they had to say. I was unimpressed with that
Speaker 1: particular season. You know, it just was like, what, I
Speaker 1: don't care, I don't care. Oh, they're doing great and
Speaker 1: they're friends. Cool. So I liked when she was that
Speaker 1: when when Chris Harrison was asking Um Madison if he
Speaker 1: had a heart, if she had hard feelings towards Barb
Speaker 1: and she was antl like, no, I guess she's to
Speaker 1: be a mom and Hannah and it was literally like
Speaker 1: she was like kind of laughing and like, clearly some
Speaker 1: moves in the room, like she had no poker face.
Speaker 1: If you go back and watch she's she's like like
Speaker 1: and clearly they're not friends, Like it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: they were. But that's that's why it was so boring,
Speaker 1: is because it's like it just feels so coached. He's like,
Speaker 1: there's zero chance that you had you had no hard feelings.
Speaker 1: She's like, look I cried then, but I have no
Speaker 1: hard feelings now. And it's just like, oh, okay, well
Speaker 1: then hang up on them. Christ be two hours. I
Speaker 1: don't give a ship. It's like, yes, just run out
Speaker 1: of programming, Just do another Zoom show. I don't care,
Speaker 1: show me some do a fundraiser. We have Instagram. We
Speaker 1: know they're alive, Like, who cares. I just want to
Speaker 1: say I want to remind everyone that Hannah Ann paid
Speaker 1: for a fake paparazzi shoot where she was playing with
Speaker 1: water guns by herself. That crew reminder, Yes, she was
Speaker 1: like and then the things like Hannah and soaks up
Speaker 1: the fun with her friends, and then people took behind
Speaker 1: the scenes and she was by herself shooting water guns
Speaker 1: to no one, shooting water guns perfectly dry on our
Speaker 1: chats that can see it. Yes, she like just shooting
Speaker 1: out like a water gun off camera, like yeah, And
Speaker 1: then they said it like with her friends and she
Speaker 1: was alone by herself shooting water guns at no One
Speaker 1: in a bikini. Yes, what does this? And she because
Speaker 1: the thing is on this show and I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is how it is on nine Fiance. If
Speaker 1: you get far enough, you can just become an influencer
Speaker 1: for a few years, if you get in the machine
Speaker 1: of it. Ye know. The people in any Day Fiance
Speaker 1: are so hopeless in terms of their media savvy that
Speaker 1: half the time like they're like, oh, I should make
Speaker 1: an Instagram like once they're on the show, and then
Speaker 1: they end up just getting in fights with viewers who
Speaker 1: are like, why are you dating that young kid or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just all definitely not a savage. The show. This
Speaker 1: season that you watched just today was a good season
Speaker 1: because it was before people could become influencers, like it
Speaker 1: was at the beginning like it wasn't It was the
Speaker 1: beginning of people really coming on for the wrong reasons,
Speaker 1: which I think is more and more prevalent now where
Speaker 1: you can just you just get in the machine and
Speaker 1: then you can go to paradise. You can have a
Speaker 1: fab fit fun thing if you get enough fault I mean,
Speaker 1: like you can kind of quit your jobs a year
Speaker 1: is like the post show economy as an influencer for
Speaker 1: a contestant, is that like are there like basically like
Speaker 1: six brands sustaining these people or do you have people
Speaker 1: just found ways into celebrity on their own? I think, Anna,
Speaker 1: could you I think you know more about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there seems to be some of them. If you get
Speaker 1: really far and you're a really likable female, some of
Speaker 1: them seem to start clothing lines, or they'll do like
Speaker 1: like like Caitlin has like a scrunchy hairline, or they'll
Speaker 1: be do we correspondent for e I think they get
Speaker 1: paid a lot for their podcast. They have a lot
Speaker 1: of listeners, Anna, what do you yeah? And then you know,
Speaker 1: like there's like the main um, I guess sponsors, which
Speaker 1: is like the Sugar hair Care whatever it is, or
Speaker 1: like the diet t or any sort of yeah, or
Speaker 1: like any clothing line. I do want to say that
Speaker 1: Captain Harrison, Chris Harrison, Sorry, I'm watching too much below
Speaker 1: Deck Harrison, Harrison, Castin Harrison and Harrison Harrison. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: so Captain okay, So Captain Hares is so cruel in
Speaker 1: his questioning at times when it's just like, admit it,
Speaker 1: you cried madisone. You cried madaicine, admit it, and she's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I hurt my feelings. We all saw what happened. He's
Speaker 1: so cruel. You can also screen share when you find
Speaker 1: your the Hannah and Sun st Well, I found the
Speaker 1: actual photo shoot, but I'm trying to find the photos
Speaker 1: that people posted on Reddit of the background. Anna just
Speaker 1: sent me the poster or the part of Daily Mail article,
Speaker 1: but the regular photos that were meant to paint the
Speaker 1: reality already just look like bullshit. There's no she's totally dry,
Speaker 1: she's not wet at all. Yeah, I'm sending them right now. Okay.
Speaker 1: So then, um so then we Okay, I'm gonna okay,
Speaker 1: pauses for a second, kid, because I just want to
Speaker 1: look at him. I want to look at those pictures.
Speaker 1: It says, like with pals, but like not a single
Speaker 1: shot of any other person, and there's nobody there's no
Speaker 1: part of her that's wet. She's in the bikini. It's
Speaker 1: it's also may so at the height of like f
Speaker 1: she's risking getting COVID to super soaker splash out and not.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the fakest ship I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: That's well, that was That's how she was responding to
Speaker 1: George Floyd's murder. Was it really two days after? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like that's like in the you're releasing that
Speaker 1: in the build up to like a flashpoint in America.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to read the room. Some people, Wow,
Speaker 1: I can't believe. She's like, Hey, maybe don't release those
Speaker 1: that week. Maybe I know you paid for them, but
Speaker 1: maybe maybe wait till like late August or something. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe you don't need to that. Did her did her
Speaker 1: dad own a car dealership? That's what her vibe is to, Oh,
Speaker 1: probably she's from Knoxville tennis pageant girl, but that does
Speaker 1: she does feel like she could be on Friday Night
Speaker 1: Lights and she could be Lila Garanty like that, you know,
Speaker 1: daughter of Buddy Garrity. She's so Lila Garity. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I never Yeah. She is like, um, so here we are.
Speaker 1: We're meeting Sean Booth. He is uh, these the the
Speaker 1: the main contender so far. And it was love at
Speaker 1: first sight and she felt it. She was like, this
Speaker 1: is the closest I've ever had to love at first sight.
Speaker 1: He did I always. I know Lorie does not like Sean.
Speaker 1: I think she found him. She found him to be
Speaker 1: an agro hothead. But I kind of felt for Sean
Speaker 1: where he was all in until like his nemesis showed
Speaker 1: up and fucked his love interest. Like I kind of
Speaker 1: saw his point for being a little annoyed. Um. But um,
Speaker 1: they were cute, Like I thought they were kind of
Speaker 1: cute together. He she was really attracted to him. Um.
Speaker 1: She loved his voice, she loved his smell. Um. And
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm so thankful it's here. I was
Speaker 1: in a bad car accident, I was airborne, I got
Speaker 1: flipped six times. I'm so happy. This feels so right.
Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you. I mean that's before
Speaker 1: Nick has arrived. I at the time thought they were
Speaker 1: very cute. Katie Anna, did you like him at that point? Sean, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember thinking it was okay, he was I think
Speaker 1: also I thought in the same vein of like Clint,
Speaker 1: a little of like the browing nous. I mean, looking back,
Speaker 1: she actually had some pretty good guys, and like he
Speaker 1: didn't really have a ton of personality. I remember liking
Speaker 1: him but thinking, yeah, he was just like a bro.
Speaker 1: Like I remember they would show every time they would show,
Speaker 1: like his room and his like setup, it was just
Speaker 1: literally all protein powder, Like he had a ton of
Speaker 1: protein powder. And I were thinking, Okay, that makes sense
Speaker 1: about this guy. But like, yeah, Jerry, what did you
Speaker 1: think of What were you thinking of John? I mean
Speaker 1: my first impression was like I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: get it. It It kind of looks like Ryan Gosling, but
Speaker 1: like jacked. Okay, I get that. I understand the scene
Speaker 1: where they were golfing and then she made him run
Speaker 1: naked and she was laughing and that her laugh is
Speaker 1: so adorable. I was like, okay, yeah, they've got good
Speaker 1: like playful chemistry. Yeah, it was fine, Like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just a bro. Like, he's just a bro. But I
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm not really expecting much from these dudes.
Speaker 1: My opinion did shift later, so, um, I thought she, Miles,
Speaker 1: what did you think of the Sean? I did find
Speaker 1: her so adorable on that golf date and her little
Speaker 1: plaid pants, and it's like, she's so cute. Stealing his
Speaker 1: clothes when he's nude is a nice touch, like anyone does?
Speaker 1: I think you know? He was, Yeah, he was kind
Speaker 1: of unremarkable. There are moments when I thought other, like
Speaker 1: that ben Z guy who they showed like seemed how
Speaker 1: like a quality about him that seemed more interesting or
Speaker 1: memorable than just Sean, who just seemed like insert generic
Speaker 1: stock image of you know, a guy who could be
Speaker 1: a Ryan Gosling impersonator in an old folks home. Yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but he you know, he's he's very aesthetically pleasing,
Speaker 1: but yeah, not much too personality wise. That I thought
Speaker 1: was like, oh, she has she's so interesting. This guy
Speaker 1: is not that That's that's the real thing, Miles that
Speaker 1: I was feeling while watching it. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this girl is awesome. So she's got the best personality
Speaker 1: and she's totally gorgeous and it's like, yeah, but she
Speaker 1: was my number one bachelorette, and I think, I think
Speaker 1: until the end, Rachel Lindsay was a close runner up
Speaker 1: of my number two bachelorette, Like Katie, would you agree, Yes, actually,
Speaker 1: I think Rachel's my number one and then and then
Speaker 1: Caitlin was my number two because Rachel was just like
Speaker 1: truly the smartest Bachelorrett We've ever had. She was a
Speaker 1: and lawyer, like she was genuinely like very smart but
Speaker 1: like and also very fun. Um. But Caitlin was fun
Speaker 1: and I like that she kind of was just like
Speaker 1: unapologetically herself for the most part, and I thought that was,
Speaker 1: you know, something we don't see anymore. I feel like
Speaker 1: I would know Caitlin, Like I feel like I would
Speaker 1: know Caitlin and root for Caitlin and like like I
Speaker 1: felt like like she could be like she kind of like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're completely different people, but she kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of like Debbie Ryan a little bit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like does this fun young gal
Speaker 1: that's just like very cool and like so pretty but
Speaker 1: also like super fun and can hang and like just
Speaker 1: just a CUTI pie. I thought she's adorable. Um. So
Speaker 1: then they go to New York and they the guys
Speaker 1: do the worst rap ever and um, there's like a
Speaker 1: rap battle that was rude all to watch. And then
Speaker 1: um afterwards, Ashley I is there with Nick and I
Speaker 1: have never seen I don't remember this Caitlin's chemical reaction
Speaker 1: to seeing Nick. And she's like behind like she's like
Speaker 1: behind the wall and the camera's catching her and she's
Speaker 1: already started to fall for Sean, but literally her whole
Speaker 1: body is quaking. I remember she had like a ring
Speaker 1: on her and she's like, oh my god, it is Nick.
Speaker 1: Like I've never seen like a physical like embodiment of
Speaker 1: somebody's like panties doing like like backflips like sexual there's
Speaker 1: like like we're gonna fuck like I was, I mean
Speaker 1: like like literally watching somebody going into rapid fire heat
Speaker 1: like it was truly a chemical jangling of the chemicals.
Speaker 1: I've never seen such an authentic horny moment. That was explosive.
Speaker 1: It was, and I just always thought that was hilarious. Miles,
Speaker 1: what did you think of that moment? Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: probably the second most impressive moment in terms of like
Speaker 1: witnessing a dynamic sexual interaction since probably Clinton J J
Speaker 1: Me personally, but that was it was. It was fine
Speaker 1: to see I just didn't know it's Proprior to this,
Speaker 1: I didn't know who I know the name Nick Vil
Speaker 1: and I only like the last time I heard, I think,
Speaker 1: is when we were at the Podcast Awards and Anna
Speaker 1: pointed out that he had a seat in the audience, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Nick Vile is going to be of
Speaker 1: course this guy is going to be here, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fun what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Who is this? I didn't know who he was when
Speaker 1: he showed up. I'd never heard from I didn't watch
Speaker 1: the season. I didn't know who it was, so yeah,
Speaker 1: um it was. I sort of lost my train of
Speaker 1: thought there, but yeah, watching I guess yeah, seeing them
Speaker 1: sit down after that whole like vibration interaction, he must
Speaker 1: have been like so horny too and been like I
Speaker 1: got this dude, I'm sucking in her, fucking her fingernails
Speaker 1: blew off when she saw me. She was so horny.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is and they and they did like
Speaker 1: they literally did. And I will say, like I've met
Speaker 1: Nick and I feel like he's just super handsome guy
Speaker 1: and like, like I get it. I have to say
Speaker 1: on screen this time, I'm like this guy, Like who's
Speaker 1: this guy? Like this guy in the cal neck sweater,
Speaker 1: like what like this? Like I didn't know who he was,
Speaker 1: so like I like I could. I was like like
Speaker 1: I was just she has so many handsome guys. I
Speaker 1: was just fascinated. I was like, this is the guy
Speaker 1: that she's like, I'll have what she's having. I mean, like, fully, Jerry,
Speaker 1: what did you think of her reaction? Well, it makes
Speaker 1: sense in this because he stands out because he's not
Speaker 1: like these jacked up bross He's more alt and he's
Speaker 1: more smooth, and this is it. I felt for the
Speaker 1: other guys, Like at first I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: get over it, guys, like this is a competition, Like
Speaker 1: let him on and he's fine. But then when they
Speaker 1: talk about how they had the conversation via d m
Speaker 1: s and they were flirting on the d M S,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, right, she already knows who he
Speaker 1: is because she's already watched his season or the season
Speaker 1: he was on. He's a celebrity. That is disqualifying in
Speaker 1: my opinion, because that's not fair, Like that is these
Speaker 1: guys are just ordinary dudes, and now you're going to
Speaker 1: pull a celebrity in her mind into the thing. It's
Speaker 1: like he might as well be Tom Cruise. Of course
Speaker 1: she's gonna her fingernails are gonna fly off, fingered in
Speaker 1: the Waves is playing in the background in her mind.
Speaker 1: It's like the good in the Waves? What do you
Speaker 1: do to me? And so that's why I was like,
Speaker 1: it does feel a little Jesus and speaking of this
Speaker 1: might not be the right time for it, but I
Speaker 1: just got texted from my Bachelor watching crew ut A
Speaker 1: signs Bachelor alum Nick Viale, host of The Vital Files
Speaker 1: to be represented in All Areas. Nick does something women,
Speaker 1: He just does something like on Andy season two, he
Speaker 1: was like he was the villain. He was and he
Speaker 1: was like smarmie and why was he because he was
Speaker 1: like he was just very confident and I think the
Speaker 1: other guys were very threatened by it, and he kind
Speaker 1: of was just like YEO, man, this is me, and
Speaker 1: like he would just I mean he would kind of
Speaker 1: like push people's buttons a bit. I also feel like
Speaker 1: he's a girl's guy, Like he look girls look at him.
Speaker 1: On Paradise, he hung out with all the women, not
Speaker 1: a he's not a bro like because he seems safe,
Speaker 1: but he's also impersonal, jacked up. He's a tall guy.
Speaker 1: I bet he's packing heat in the pant like he's
Speaker 1: got that big zick energy. He's got the com dick
Speaker 1: and you. But it felt like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I also felt like watching him with Caitlin after everything
Speaker 1: we've seen, because he was on so many he sees this.
Speaker 1: I felt like this whole, like his whole exchange with her,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to the proposal later. But I felt
Speaker 1: like that was the last time we saw like a
Speaker 1: lot of innocence and sparkle. And then even when he
Speaker 1: was the bachelor, like I felt like that went away twice,
Speaker 1: mean twice he got shut down like that I mean,
Speaker 1: and it felt like he really loved Kaylin, like they
Speaker 1: were cute to go. I thought, I mean, is this
Speaker 1: getting ahead? But I thought she was going to choose him.
Speaker 1: When I watched A Life, I was like, it is him.
Speaker 1: There's no way it's Sean, like it is Nick. They're
Speaker 1: like supposed to be together. I was rooting for Sean,
Speaker 1: but now this time I was rooting for Nick. Remember
Speaker 1: even though I knew it didn't work out. I want
Speaker 1: to say go ahead, yes, yes, Nick just reminded me
Speaker 1: of like me in high school, or like I would
Speaker 1: use my smooth talk to just kind of tell a
Speaker 1: girl whatever they needed to hear, like you know, go
Speaker 1: out with me, kiss me whatever. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I just totally feel like right now, like I've
Speaker 1: never connected with someone like this, and then there's no
Speaker 1: way I could let this opportunity get away from me,
Speaker 1: like I would just regret it for like that whole vibe,
Speaker 1: like that's Nick's vibe, and I'm like, it's like that
Speaker 1: was that was high school for you. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's that's like me Now, I actually feel like it's
Speaker 1: too bad we can't clone both of you and send
Speaker 1: your Actually feel like both of you, in different ways,
Speaker 1: would get really far in the Bachelor world. And I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know Jerry doesn't want Claire, but I feel like,
Speaker 1: and I know that Myles is not single, but I
Speaker 1: would love to just clone you guys, because I actually
Speaker 1: feel like you would thrive watching it now, like that's
Speaker 1: the like Nick's crushing it with this like Mackiavellian like strategy.
Speaker 1: I'm like oh no, bro, I'll have these people knife fighting. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so fighting. So, by the way, also to what you
Speaker 1: were saying, Jerry, I don't I have thought about the
Speaker 1: fact that I don't remember who says I don't remember
Speaker 1: who said this to us, but one of the contestants
Speaker 1: said to us that, like who's done the podcast that
Speaker 1: when you go on, you've probably watched the season before,
Speaker 1: so you're not interacting with a celebrity when you come on,
Speaker 1: like you've been watching them, so like they're a celebrity,
Speaker 1: like like so there's the weirdness of like not only
Speaker 1: are they a hot girl or a hot guy or whatever,
Speaker 1: but like you have to it's also like the star
Speaker 1: struck quality that's that's like that's never addressed, that that
Speaker 1: they're that the that that that person is famous. They
Speaker 1: had already connected on their like social media celebrity tip
Speaker 1: and clearly had flirted and he said FaceTime, which means
Speaker 1: there was some nude stuff happening. So it's like they
Speaker 1: already had the sexual chemistry going. Yeah, like it was
Speaker 1: really truly unfair to the other guys rely so um
Speaker 1: so then they she's like, well, we struck up a
Speaker 1: friendship on social media. Um. And so they're in week
Speaker 1: four and and then she says to him, are you
Speaker 1: going to stay? And he's like, well, that's really kind
Speaker 1: of up to you. And the guys are passed and
Speaker 1: then they're like there's like a wall of like bros
Speaker 1: that are like, so what do you just hear? For
Speaker 1: your sixteenth minute of fame? Tanner was pretty I was
Speaker 1: surprised at how aggressive Tanner was. Anna, weren't you yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're like best friends now, are you serious? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's he always talks about how he's so close to
Speaker 1: Tanner and uh, Jade, they're like best friends. Now. I
Speaker 1: love that they're best friends. Now. Um, Sean was pissed.
Speaker 1: Sean goes, this guy is full of ship. He was,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call him the other guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna say his name anymore. Um. And then Nick
Speaker 1: is like what, I'm here to deal with it. Um Um. Now, Jerry,
Speaker 1: what now? You said earlier that you had thoughts on
Speaker 1: Sean's reaction. Do you want to talk about it after
Speaker 1: they bone or now it was? It was, Yeah, my
Speaker 1: my opinion on Sean changed after she told him. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that conversation is where I went, whoa, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: come back to you on that. So then we're in
Speaker 1: Mexico and Nick is singing in a mariachi hat, the
Speaker 1: most brutal song, just cringing. You have such cringe connection.
Speaker 1: You give me a huge direction. The classic songs not
Speaker 1: as good as fingered in the finger in the Waves.
Speaker 1: But his singing was that terrible? That was how offensive that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the I mean, there's so much
Speaker 1: there's no I know that. That's the nature of so
Speaker 1: many of these shows to you like that. That whole
Speaker 1: thing was awful. It was awful to watch, Like we
Speaker 1: saw stuff on one poblic season, which was even before that,
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, what are they doing? Like wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait, whoa, Yeah, you can't really do that, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Um? So I forgot about Anna and Katy.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Josh who was pissed, who was like
Speaker 1: I think he was like he I think he's like
Speaker 1: a welder. He was the blonde guy who he let
Speaker 1: her give him a haircut, and then it's it into
Speaker 1: like the bad mohawk, Like I forgot about that guy.
Speaker 1: I forgot about him too. There weren't you guys that
Speaker 1: Once I saw I was like, oh my god, that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Josh was kind of cute. I was like, and what's
Speaker 1: crazy is that poor britt who didn't make our britt
Speaker 1: who didn't get picked. Literally, Caitlin's now like a celebrity
Speaker 1: and had Brits just like good luck out there like
Speaker 1: that Caitlin. Caitlin is just by not getting picked to
Speaker 1: be the bachelorette. It was like, what a difference their
Speaker 1: roads have been? There passed anyway, Okay, where's Britain now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where is Brittain? Now? I think she's pregnant? She did
Speaker 1: you look it up? Yeah? My buddy looked her up
Speaker 1: because I was like, she's gorgeous. Who's that? Where is
Speaker 1: she nowt so? Then? Um oh so? Then ian Ian
Speaker 1: was turned into such a dick. I remember he went
Speaker 1: to Harvard and he confronted her and he was like,
Speaker 1: I am a catch. I didn't come here for a
Speaker 1: vacation from life. I came here for a wife. And
Speaker 1: I questioned your integrity and I see you as a
Speaker 1: fake level, surface person. I don't think you're here to
Speaker 1: find her husband, your surface level and and she's like
Speaker 1: that's offensive. Um and she actually stood up for herself.
Speaker 1: He just kind of like he just kind of like
Speaker 1: rubbed it in and then he wouldn't stop, and he
Speaker 1: was kind of belittling. I believe he went to Harvard
Speaker 1: because I think he talked about it a lot, and uh, no,
Speaker 1: one goes to Harvard and doesn't tell you that they
Speaker 1: went to physically impossible. This is how like, this is
Speaker 1: how star like shaking trying to not tell they they go, well,
Speaker 1: I want to school a massive no or even particularly Prince,
Speaker 1: They go, I went just in Princeton. People go, I
Speaker 1: would just go in New Jersey and I know exactly
Speaker 1: that me. So could I like to go, oh, did
Speaker 1: you go to Rutgers? And I'm like, oh, Prince and
Speaker 1: Prince and Princeton. Yeah, yeah, I would just school in Cambridge.
Speaker 1: Oh did you go to a Cambridge Community techn Harvard? Um?
Speaker 1: I forgot about And what a dick? Don't be a
Speaker 1: dickt to by sweet Caitlin. He was calling. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: was also doing that like transparently insecure guy thing of
Speaker 1: rejecting the person before they can be rejected bingo. He
Speaker 1: used the like rationale of like, well, I'm actually I'm
Speaker 1: such a man of substance that I shouldn't even subject
Speaker 1: myself to. Clearly I'm not going to be picked and
Speaker 1: my feelings for hurt, but I'm gonna try and you know,
Speaker 1: recover my superior place here and say, well you're superficial
Speaker 1: and tootlu I must go, and like he really like
Speaker 1: rubbed her face in it, like he really dragged it out. Anna,
Speaker 1: did you remember Ian? I didn't remember this, but seeing
Speaker 1: it back really bummed me out. It's like, one, y're
Speaker 1: going on the Bachelorette, what do Yeah, she's gonna want
Speaker 1: to make out with a bunch of dudes. This is
Speaker 1: a unique opportunity to like do you? And then you're
Speaker 1: sitting here being like, I don't know if you see,
Speaker 1: I'm actually quite a catch, but Harvard I went to Harvard,
Speaker 1: but clearly I'm incredibly incredibly deep. And it's like, what
Speaker 1: you have not shown us anything that you're deep? You're
Speaker 1: an asshole. That's all we know about you. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: no fun, that's the whole thing. He goes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go lay it out for her, and it's like, immediately,
Speaker 1: bad idea, dude, don't lay it out like this is
Speaker 1: her show. Just let her show your personality. If you
Speaker 1: don't have one, then beat it. And he's just like, like,
Speaker 1: it's exactly more than anything. Her gift is she's fun.
Speaker 1: She's fun. And he's like, I see you having fun
Speaker 1: as surface level flippant, I'm here looking for a wife.
Speaker 1: And it's like immediately you know what his definition of
Speaker 1: wife is, Like, you're gonna be in the home, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be cooking stuff for me, and this, this is
Speaker 1: not going to be fun at all. We're gonna read
Speaker 1: books to each other silently. That's it. We will have
Speaker 1: sex on top of copies of the condimens. Dude, Miles,
Speaker 1: he won't even call it sex. It'll be coitest tonight,
Speaker 1: his coitest night. Coit is Tuesday. I always know it's
Speaker 1: coitious night because she puts cheese on the broccoli tie on.
Speaker 1: I put my key to iron, my key tart, and
Speaker 1: it's quate ast night, and we put we put on
Speaker 1: fingers in the waves, put on my Christopher Cross vinyl
Speaker 1: fingered in the waves, and we coitus on each other,
Speaker 1: and I give her undercarriage a firm handshake. How do
Speaker 1: you do? What do you do? It's nice to me.
Speaker 1: My name is Ian. I give her the very toss
Speaker 1: or the Latin hard. Oh my god, this is my
Speaker 1: nightmare to be surrounded by guys like this, Like as
Speaker 1: a woman who is a fun person over the years,
Speaker 1: I like as a younger gal who was like it's fun,
Speaker 1: I'm fun. Like there's many things I'm not. I am
Speaker 1: not an extreme sports person. I am not gonna scale
Speaker 1: the side of a rock. I am fun. I've had
Speaker 1: dumb guys say ship to me, like, you know what
Speaker 1: your problem is? It's basically my problem. My problem was
Speaker 1: that I didn't want to suck them. It's usually it's
Speaker 1: like you know what your problem is, you just go
Speaker 1: around like it's like it was always they think like
Speaker 1: somehow by them telling you what your problem is, like
Speaker 1: the ultimate problem is that you actually have standards. And
Speaker 1: it's like it's always like these drag guys that need
Speaker 1: to sit you down and tell you what's wrong with you.
Speaker 1: It was like, right, this was their mind. Then you
Speaker 1: fuck them think, yeah, that's what he thought was gonna happen, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: she'll just see the air of her ways to be
Speaker 1: you know what, You're right, I need to settle down
Speaker 1: and you're the guy, so then we have there in
Speaker 1: Dublin and Nick, she's she takes him on a one
Speaker 1: on one. She's so excited to fuck up, like you
Speaker 1: can see her before, like I'm gonna take that. And
Speaker 1: he literally walks up doing a jig and they go
Speaker 1: get clatter rinks together, and he's in his cowl necked sweater,
Speaker 1: which I actually like because it's cute and it feels
Speaker 1: like something like a real guy would wear. But people
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor don't generally like I just right, he
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like about short contestant. And then he
Speaker 1: but he did a lot of like pushing her up
Speaker 1: against a wall and kissing her the class if you
Speaker 1: wanted to go when you send when we clone you guys,
Speaker 1: when you we clone Miles and Jerry and you send
Speaker 1: your clone in did you do well with a wall
Speaker 1: against a wall kiss? That is always a hit in
Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Um, okay, before we get to the wall
Speaker 1: kiss and the sexy times at the church, we gotta
Speaker 1: take a moment because I gotta call My panties are
Speaker 1: doing backflips. I don't know about you, but I think
Speaker 1: I gotta take pity your break. Okay, So she goes
Speaker 1: Nick makes me feel like a woman, like a desired woman.
Speaker 1: I mean, she goes, you want to go back to
Speaker 1: my hotel room and hang out for a bit. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: And we like, Katy texted me like we're literally hearing her.
Speaker 1: Likes her get fingered the most? Do you the gresson
Speaker 1: fingered more than any podcast? I love that you guys
Speaker 1: think he was using his frown in the beginning right
Speaker 1: when again, and you could like kind of hear clothes
Speaker 1: coming off, and then you heard her just going and
Speaker 1: I was like, she was getting down there. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening. Yeah, maybe not with his finger, he Nick,
Speaker 1: did you think? Did you? I think he dove right
Speaker 1: into the kindling lady. Nick knows, but I think he
Speaker 1: I think he dove right into the deep end. He
Speaker 1: be doing that because Nick knows what he has. If
Speaker 1: you should call him, there we go in, there we go.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think, Anna, what if we
Speaker 1: call because he's been on this show before, what if
Speaker 1: we call them, like, all right, be real finger or
Speaker 1: did you go straight to cud you start or did
Speaker 1: you start with fingeringer? Can you imagine it's so inappropriate?
Speaker 1: Don't even say hello? A couple of times. I'm that
Speaker 1: adult lady that I came in, and I'm like the
Speaker 1: adult super family who's like a character actress and much
Speaker 1: shorter than all the women you know. You know, I
Speaker 1: was like that lady, listen, did you finger? Did you?
Speaker 1: Just from my own knowledge, I didn't. We're just curious.
Speaker 1: When I heard the fully artist, I thought it was
Speaker 1: a finger. But my friend was like, Carly, did you say,
Speaker 1: uncle Steve? What was your name? Fuck you? That was
Speaker 1: my name. I don't know, Uncle Steve. I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even that. It wasn't even that. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. We'll look it up.
Speaker 1: We can look it up. We can look it up.
Speaker 1: Would break up? I Carly in the middle, and you
Speaker 1: know my friend from my Carly, just how are you
Speaker 1: talking about my friend Chris Steven crazy Steve. It's Captain Harrison, Harrison,
Speaker 1: Harrison and Uncle Steve down talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: Here's this guilt her teacher when we just talk about
Speaker 1: like what went down? And I need to be drinking
Speaker 1: during this? Should other people drink? Okay? All right? So
Speaker 1: then they go the chemists there, whatever happens happened, and
Speaker 1: then and then they did it cut to a water
Speaker 1: fountain just jizzing outside the hotel room, right outside, and
Speaker 1: then she's um and then Chris Harrison goes, this changed
Speaker 1: many lives forever, like Captain Harrison, you're the Catholic captist.
Speaker 1: The captain said, this changed many lives forever. I need
Speaker 1: to know what was your name on like Carly Spencer,
Speaker 1: But weren't you What was your name on? Drake and
Speaker 1: Chock crazy Steve? Let me get it right, Get it right,
Speaker 1: Steve from Jake and Josh and Steve Spencer. That's correct,
Speaker 1: Steve Spencer for hire on I Carly, Uncle Steve, Crazy Steve.
Speaker 1: And then we worked. I'm writing a pilot right now
Speaker 1: called Uncle Steve and Captain Harrison. Okay, Uncle Steve and
Speaker 1: Captain Harris. All right, all right, everybody does just because
Speaker 1: it's quart. She doesn't mean people have this kind of
Speaker 1: time to listen to us because nobody's moving. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So they went on, they bomb blah blah blah. So
Speaker 1: she's guilty. She feels bad. She knew from her she
Speaker 1: felt like she went too far with Nick. And then
Speaker 1: she feels like she needs to go tell and then
Speaker 1: and then he goes. He goes and tell us the guy.
Speaker 1: We went back to her place. We we had whiskey thing,
Speaker 1: we talked to get really personal. Um got personal and
Speaker 1: then um and then we quitte to and we don't
Speaker 1: even need to get into this. Chris Harrison talking to
Speaker 1: Claire and Diana Pabla Stuggliaglow, which is the best name
Speaker 1: for a character ever, And it's just full off of
Speaker 1: her chair. You can't just say it the name Diana
Speaker 1: Puppa is stugliago and act like we know you're that's
Speaker 1: a specific, incredible name for a character that is a
Speaker 1: Harry Potter spell. I'm pretty sure. And I felt like
Speaker 1: he was calling her baglow. He was also calling her Yanna,
Speaker 1: like there was like eighteen names that he called her.
Speaker 1: He was like Tanna, Diana, Tanna Pappas, douglago um, and
Speaker 1: like that was so weird, and I was like, what
Speaker 1: was it the screen time and Claire had so much
Speaker 1: botox and her boobies were like there. It was like
Speaker 1: so exciting and bizarre. Anyway, we're back, so Kayla, anything
Speaker 1: on the anything on Diana Poppa s Dougliaglow and Claire
Speaker 1: and the botox and boobies Poppagliano. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: did not watch her. Claire is the next Bachelor? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm she's thirty nine, she's the oldest bachelorette and
Speaker 1: she she hasn't been on the show since really, and
Speaker 1: people are like who And they're having a hard time
Speaker 1: getting guys to apply to be and we don't even
Speaker 1: know when they'd be able to film because they're like saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll start filming in July, but like coronavirus and chairs
Speaker 1: are spiking. So I don't believe that. And Jerry can't
Speaker 1: stand her, and Jerry's not into her as a character.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just not. I don't. It's not that
Speaker 1: I don't like her, I hate her or something like that.
Speaker 1: She's just not my type. I mean, those boobies are fantastic,
Speaker 1: and they looked real, they were like wow, they looked
Speaker 1: just magnificently. But I don't. She still even did the
Speaker 1: thing that I don't like where she kind of like
Speaker 1: covers up what she really wants to say. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing that's so refreshing about Caitlin is how authentic
Speaker 1: she was and how she handled Ian like I don't
Speaker 1: want another Caitlin, we want another we want someone authentic
Speaker 1: like that, And then somebody even gave her yes. She
Speaker 1: just was like, I'm just really excited, you know. It's
Speaker 1: just like, don't do that. Don't be a pageant, like
Speaker 1: say what you think, like we want to see you thinking.
Speaker 1: So then Kaylin goes to talk to Sean to tell him.
Speaker 1: She goes, are universe right now? She goes, look, I
Speaker 1: don't mean to find out later. I was on a
Speaker 1: date with net it went too far. We had sex
Speaker 1: and his face had so much rage and he goes
Speaker 1: to regret it. Why are you telling me this right now?
Speaker 1: And he goes, why didn't I take a minute to regroup,
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom? And then um and then he
Speaker 1: says to himself in the bathroom, I'm so tense right now,
Speaker 1: I can't even piss. It was almost like the day
Speaker 1: of punching himself and in the day punching himself in
Speaker 1: the dick and the bathroom. So then um, so then
Speaker 1: she comes out she goes, look, this is the deal,
Speaker 1: this is the show. You have to trust me. I
Speaker 1: don't think you trust me. This is the process. Um
Speaker 1: and uh, that's what happened at the rose ceremony. Nick
Speaker 1: is going to the fantasy suite and then Nick and
Speaker 1: Sean start talking after that rose ceremony and um and
Speaker 1: then real quick, real quick, can I say about her
Speaker 1: telling Sean about that moment? I love the way she
Speaker 1: handled it. I was so impressed with her as a
Speaker 1: human being. She didn't sugarcoat anything. She didn't say we
Speaker 1: were intimate, which they always do, and I cannot stand
Speaker 1: she said we had sex. Yes you did, girl, Yes
Speaker 1: you did, and it was awesome and you loved it.
Speaker 1: And maybe there's some regrets. Who cares? But she owned it.
Speaker 1: And then he had this moment where he could have
Speaker 1: just been like, you know what, I don't own you,
Speaker 1: and I understand that that you have to do what
Speaker 1: you have to do to figure out who you love.
Speaker 1: Am I bummed? Yes, you know, but I'll get through it.
Speaker 1: And instead he didn't. He becomes this meat heead hothead.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I gotta punch my deck, Give
Speaker 1: me a second. I gotta punch my deck. And then
Speaker 1: and then like the moment between him and Nick where
Speaker 1: it's like he wouldn't even Nick talk like just get
Speaker 1: out of my face, get out of my thing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna roid rage all over the room here, like get
Speaker 1: get wrecked, pal, like you don't own these women. What
Speaker 1: did you think of his reaction? No? Absolutely, it was
Speaker 1: just you know, I think again, this is why Jerry
Speaker 1: and I should be on the Bachelor, because that's what
Speaker 1: we would say and bring the fucking house down, because
Speaker 1: just being like, it's weird. These guys have these attitudes
Speaker 1: really where they're just like give me my fucking meat.
Speaker 1: We're fucking fighting over it. And his like when he
Speaker 1: was getting in like Nick's face, that's when I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: really like to go broke. You're just gonna have to like,
Speaker 1: you know, probably vacate my line of sight, bro before
Speaker 1: things turn up. It's so transparent and dumb and meatheaded
Speaker 1: and just like what are we doing? What do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was I was like, I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 1: get myself together. It's like, dude, just right now, I
Speaker 1: gotta punch my shi. Everybody knows it. He's probably like
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I'm so hard from this and
Speaker 1: turtles are awesome. I kind of have to say I
Speaker 1: can feel for this guy because until Nick showed up,
Speaker 1: he had at an entire season where it was so
Speaker 1: he wasn't around, and it was like they were falling
Speaker 1: in love and she was all in and he was
Speaker 1: a super fan and it was working, and she said
Speaker 1: it was love at first sight, and like it was
Speaker 1: like and the producers are cruel, Like it was they
Speaker 1: were falling in love with each other, and the producers
Speaker 1: are mean, and they brought in the guy she most
Speaker 1: wants DTF and she brings him in and and I
Speaker 1: can see how it was because it was really no
Speaker 1: other major threat for him in the house, and I
Speaker 1: could see how it would be confusing to them just
Speaker 1: be like, so this guy shows like I just I
Speaker 1: I felt for him a little bit. Jerry, you're right.
Speaker 1: But if we are going to look at this like
Speaker 1: quote real life, like this is people meet people all
Speaker 1: the time. And if she's on TV and she's a celebrity,
Speaker 1: gets what Sean, She's going to meet other celebrities and
Speaker 1: if you're not married or engaged, she's allowed to go
Speaker 1: do whatever she wants. And it's like it's up to
Speaker 1: you to be the best version of yourself. So that
Speaker 1: she doesn't go sleep with other dudes so that she
Speaker 1: continues to love you. So it's like just because your
Speaker 1: cast on this show, that's not real life. Like real
Speaker 1: life is people coming in and out of your lives.
Speaker 1: And it's like she met Nick beforehand, so Nick was
Speaker 1: going to be in her life one way or the other. Um,
Speaker 1: really quick and I'm a bad hostess. My page is
Speaker 1: stuck together, and just we can do this very quickly,
Speaker 1: and look good, lord, what were you doing? Dreams started
Speaker 1: watching j J punched himself in the face and talk
Speaker 1: about turtles. Um that I just want to say, I
Speaker 1: missed one page of a few little quickies. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, and we can just keep it here.
Speaker 1: Um we missed, Um, we missed the guys doing the
Speaker 1: sex said class and and so Ben Higgins, here's one
Speaker 1: thing you need to know, Ben Higgins, um who we
Speaker 1: have a talk with later. Ben Higgins was so religious
Speaker 1: that he has scriptured tattoos when he was the bachelor
Speaker 1: on his ribs. To learn that this guy was a
Speaker 1: sex ed miner in college was so confusing to like
Speaker 1: like that this guy was I was just mind box.
Speaker 1: I did think that was a fun like a fun
Speaker 1: group date. But just Anna Katie re blown away that
Speaker 1: Ben Higgins was a sex ed miner. Yeah, just because
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. Go ahead, no, no, go ahead, first say,
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised how good he wasnt talking, because I
Speaker 1: know he wanted to be like a Republican politician for
Speaker 1: a hot minute, I think he ran for Republican Senate
Speaker 1: in Colorado. But wasn't he like kind of didn't we
Speaker 1: find out that he was like a little prude or
Speaker 1: like unexperienced when he was a bachelor, Like, didn't we
Speaker 1: find out from someone that like he did missionary with
Speaker 1: everybody except for like Jojo who was like the sixty
Speaker 1: nine and he had like we never done that before.
Speaker 1: We heard that one person did not sleep with him,
Speaker 1: one person was missionary and when and that we heard
Speaker 1: that he was so excited to that he told everybody
Speaker 1: how he ended. He was so sight he had never
Speaker 1: done it before, and he's like, oh my god, have
Speaker 1: you guys Okay, you know what if he's super religious,
Speaker 1: I bet he was minoring in sex, said, because that
Speaker 1: was like easy access to like sexually explicit material and
Speaker 1: then he could like absolve himself of any guilty viewing pornography.
Speaker 1: So if he's looking at close up shots or learning
Speaker 1: what a vagina is and hearing people talk about the
Speaker 1: breasts and all this other stuff, and he's like got
Speaker 1: this cover of like, you know, I want to inform
Speaker 1: my congregation. You know, my youth grew up about how
Speaker 1: to finger And also, like jerk off during a college class,
Speaker 1: everyone thinks you're just minoring in this. So then we
Speaker 1: have also the quickie of because these were all really
Speaker 1: good guys, we have the quickie. But they had good chemistry.
Speaker 1: And he dipped her out like he got really far.
Speaker 1: He was a sweetie pie. We liked Ben Higgins. Then
Speaker 1: there was ben Z. She called him a babe Soda
Speaker 1: And we found out in this terrible story that his
Speaker 1: mom could. He loves cooking, cooking so good and food
Speaker 1: so food so important. His mom cooked all of his meals.
Speaker 1: And then his mom filled down the stairs and died
Speaker 1: of cancer. It was it was such he was free.
Speaker 1: I forgot that. Yeah, it's like one she fell down
Speaker 1: the stairs broker back and then she died of cancer.
Speaker 1: I was like, what she must have had bone cancer
Speaker 1: and not know I forgot about that too. And he's
Speaker 1: so sweet, like when he did the podcast and when
Speaker 1: we met him in Terrancesco, he was like he was
Speaker 1: so normal and cool and he's like his own business.
Speaker 1: And now I mean now he's a fee on saying
Speaker 1: he's very happy because I follow that he's so handsome.
Speaker 1: He came to my comedy show up North. He came in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's so sweet. He's so handsome, he's such a gentleman.
Speaker 1: He I'm happy for him. He seems like he's really happy. Um.
Speaker 1: And then we have Jared who actually got really far
Speaker 1: and was so cute and he he Caitlyn kissed the
Speaker 1: Blarnie Stone and he read her the poem and she
Speaker 1: just they were so cute together. And but I have
Speaker 1: to say Ashley, I and Jared like Chris Hard Captain
Speaker 1: Harrison asking them about like how much they were getting
Speaker 1: at It was so strange in the quarantine. Was that
Speaker 1: odd to you? Yeah? Yeah, how are you doing it
Speaker 1: with your parents in the next room? So weird. She
Speaker 1: was a virgin, but she was like the she was
Speaker 1: the virgin on this show. But like so everyone was
Speaker 1: so happy for her that she got her and it
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily for like she wanted Jared and like he
Speaker 1: wasn't interested and then she she finally got you know,
Speaker 1: like she got her. Guy, it wasn't like super awkward
Speaker 1: when they were asking him about his time with Caitlin
Speaker 1: and he kept like looking at her like terrified, he
Speaker 1: wasn't sure what to say, or just like as if
Speaker 1: it wasn't documented on TV or the thing was always
Speaker 1: you know, I feel so awkward. And she's so cool,
Speaker 1: like she she does our podcast a bunch, and she's
Speaker 1: so lovely. She seems so fine. We're like it was
Speaker 1: where she was almost like why are you yea, why
Speaker 1: are you all weird now about this? She's so pretty
Speaker 1: in person? Yeah, god, I mean we love her. She's
Speaker 1: a fan of Yeah, it was awkward. That was weird.
Speaker 1: When she showed up with no makeup like Mary Cash.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm just not wearing any makeup.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys don't mind. I was like, I'm sorry, Um, okay,
Speaker 1: you are like everybody done it. Okay, you're absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1: That's my Rookie of the Year, guiltine teacher. Okay, So
Speaker 1: here we are. We're back at Nick and Sean. Nick's
Speaker 1: like Sean's getting all bro a and I like that.
Speaker 1: Nick's like, what are you gonna fight? Like? Nick doesn't
Speaker 1: give two ships, which is also infuriating if you're Sean,
Speaker 1: like if you want to fight, um, well he would
Speaker 1: do that thing if Sean punched him, like whoa dude,
Speaker 1: whoa whoa? Yeah did? I would also be like tough
Speaker 1: to him though, too, what do you threaten me when
Speaker 1: you gonna punch me? And like when you get punched,
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well did I miss? Did I miss?
Speaker 1: The part where somebody gave her a portrait of Chris
Speaker 1: Harrison drawn on a Tricara top? That was night one?
Speaker 1: I mean that was the greens are I have ever seen.
Speaker 1: I would frame them and put that in my house.
Speaker 1: It was so good. If he really did draw it,
Speaker 1: I would pay you to draw another one. Chris, Wait,
Speaker 1: he was wearing a captain's hat in that the captain
Speaker 1: on a tri Sara top? Was he wasn't he wearing
Speaker 1: a captain's hat? And Anna, I can see Anna furiously
Speaker 1: googling that image was incredible and I would pay any
Speaker 1: amount of money for that. I will. It was impressive.
Speaker 1: Was that pencil like just as a pencil and such
Speaker 1: a great it's such a he's not wearing a captain's
Speaker 1: hat on damn commission it with him in a captain
Speaker 1: set and the try Sara top and a captain hat.
Speaker 1: That would have been so amazing and waves but yes, okay,
Speaker 1: y has a monocle. Okay, so good, Okay, So then um,
Speaker 1: we're getting towards the end. And so it was. They
Speaker 1: literally just cut to Nick's proposal. We see nothing of
Speaker 1: the fantasy suites. We don't see anything of Ben Higgins
Speaker 1: saying that he feels unlovable. We don't see any like,
Speaker 1: we don't see Jared, we don't see Cupcake. It doesn't
Speaker 1: work watching them. And that guy made it far, the
Speaker 1: guy who drove up in a cup Yeah he got
Speaker 1: cut in he got the cupcake guy got cut in Ireland, yes, Katie,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they didn't show Cupcake getting cut. But they
Speaker 1: did a two on one date in Ireland and they
Speaker 1: go to this like amazing Cliff and then she goes, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm choosing whoever the other pass for a second, just
Speaker 1: so you know, Miles on a two on one is
Speaker 1: I'd be like if you and Jerry. If Anna was
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, it she was taking you both two on
Speaker 1: one is bad because only one person is actually going
Speaker 1: home immediately and they get left on the date and
Speaker 1: then the other person gets to go have like whisked
Speaker 1: away and like a boat or what's some exciting that
Speaker 1: they get whisked up to have the night of their
Speaker 1: lives and your left abandoned at the gay part of
Speaker 1: the date. And you have to remember those shots where
Speaker 1: it's like a helicopter shot. They left them on the
Speaker 1: side of this cliff and they just took off in
Speaker 1: a helicopter and we baked anything drying and the dentist insane.
Speaker 1: He was a dentist. They had done like Aladdin thing
Speaker 1: on there and he was weeping on the side of
Speaker 1: the cliff and they left him like my helicopter. I
Speaker 1: feel so robbed at that because when he first when
Speaker 1: they showed him at the very beginning of the episode
Speaker 1: with like the carnival of interesting people along with the
Speaker 1: amateur sex coach, my first note was Chris Cupcake predator. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and his name is Cupcake and he's a dentist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he drove up in the Cupcake. I was like,
Speaker 1: this guy is too whimsical to be on the up
Speaker 1: and agreed. That's why again, I don't think it's I
Speaker 1: don't think they're These are not meant to be bite size.
Speaker 1: The fun is the insanity of these people. So here
Speaker 1: we go. So then we get the most brutal breakup
Speaker 1: ever and then they let Nick do the full proposal
Speaker 1: before they stop him. And I know Jerry is a
Speaker 1: problem with this. I can't tell you how in love
Speaker 1: with you I am. I don't want to let you go.
Speaker 1: I am yours forever if you'll have me. And I
Speaker 1: really believed him. This was I feel like the last
Speaker 1: This is when the light gets extinguished. I don't know
Speaker 1: what his proposal like for Andy, but I really felt
Speaker 1: like he loved Caitlin and he was about to propose,
Speaker 1: and she says, I'm sorry, my hearts is somebody else.
Speaker 1: He was okay, and he goes, if you were in
Speaker 1: love with me, you would be having a different conversation
Speaker 1: because she's saying, it's not like I'm not in love
Speaker 1: with you, and then she goes, I don't wanted to
Speaker 1: doubt it. I don't eat a doubt it, and he goes,
Speaker 1: you took this from me, and then she says it
Speaker 1: was real in the moment. What I felt for you
Speaker 1: was real in the moment. He goes, yeah, well mine wasn't,
Speaker 1: just in the moment. And then he goes, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be with me, you don't love me. And
Speaker 1: then in the limo he tosses his gigantic Neil Lane
Speaker 1: ring and then he tosses his clattering and he goes,
Speaker 1: I just feel sick. I'm like the world's biggest joke.
Speaker 1: And then we see him in his apartment with his
Speaker 1: essential oils over his shoulder. Much he has an essential
Speaker 1: oil line, just like Chris Harrison has his novel line.
Speaker 1: And he's in front of a Paris painting with like
Speaker 1: there's no way that's his painting with like terry blossomed
Speaker 1: trees behind him, and um and that. And then I've
Speaker 1: heard him tell these stories of finding these emails, like
Speaker 1: now numerous times I've heard him he's telled this to
Speaker 1: me love letters, guys. And then they never showed Sean's proposal.
Speaker 1: It was like, and that must cut to Caitlin now,
Speaker 1: as if it never happened. All right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: around the circle, Katie, what did you think of this
Speaker 1: of the show overall? Yeah, just like them, like only
Speaker 1: showing Nick's proposal, cutting out, cutting out Sean. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was so weird how they didn't show Sean and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't realize it at first until someone text
Speaker 1: me did they not show Sean's proposal? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: should they did it? Honestly, like the Knicks stuff was
Speaker 1: so much more exciting that I get it. But the
Speaker 1: fucking the love letter thing was really dumb because they
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't even read them, didn't read that. It
Speaker 1: was just like they had so many dumb teases in
Speaker 1: this that none of it actually was true. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it was. Her season was fun, so it
Speaker 1: was interesting to relive it. But Terry, what did you
Speaker 1: think of the proposal, not seeing Sean, et cetera. I
Speaker 1: was okay with not seeing the proposal. All of my
Speaker 1: friends that I watched with were really pissed about that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why we it's who cares? We
Speaker 1: know it didn't work out, we know he won, we
Speaker 1: know it didn't work out. The more interesting this is
Speaker 1: a highlight reel, and the more interesting moment is nick
Speaker 1: heart Nick's heart being ripped in half in front of
Speaker 1: the American public, but did same you know. I'm just
Speaker 1: I was there for the highlights, so and like when
Speaker 1: I saw that, like in the beginning she was blonde
Speaker 1: and with some other person, I'm like, okay, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like her story didn't end there. I was
Speaker 1: just like, and then it seemed like everyone was talking
Speaker 1: like this. The whole point of this season was she
Speaker 1: fucked before Fantasy sweet and the thing that like and
Speaker 1: then Nick gets his heart ripped out. So I think
Speaker 1: they basically just wanted to highlight that part since that
Speaker 1: seems to be the thing that everyone talks. I also
Speaker 1: did not recognize her when they went to her. I
Speaker 1: was like, who is this Wait, that's the same girl.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I like, like, you're so cute. You don't
Speaker 1: need to do any You're so cute. She's been instagrammified. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we see that she's now we love her
Speaker 1: boyfriend now he was on a different season. They all
Speaker 1: day within the World. So she's with Jason's a great guy.
Speaker 1: They they pretend she's going to get proposed to, but
Speaker 1: her reaction getting asked to be on Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars was so But if you recall she wanted to
Speaker 1: do Dancing with the Stars and Mike Flies told her
Speaker 1: she couldn't do He would let her, would her? But
Speaker 1: then they let Nick Vail do it the next year
Speaker 1: or whatever? Remember that? Why did he say she couldn't
Speaker 1: do it? They were like, oh, it's not appropriate for
Speaker 1: you to be like jumping from like, you know, show
Speaker 1: to show on ABC. I know. And she when when
Speaker 1: Nick came to do it, she came out and said
Speaker 1: it was sexist of them to not let her do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's suck up. So now this is them being like,
Speaker 1: here you go. You can do it now, like you
Speaker 1: got a black batchelor. Sorry to resectis Caitlin, you could
Speaker 1: be on it? We're coming up to us. Okay. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure what. I was so confused at her enthusi yasm,
Speaker 1: because like things slowly made sense. Right when when we
Speaker 1: started this recording, you were like, we love her because
Speaker 1: she's so wholesome. I'm like, okay, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: Because she was so moved at this offer to be
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars. I'm like, or is it?
Speaker 1: Are people so desperate to continue there? She was a dancer,
Speaker 1: It was her dream. She wanted to be do it,
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't let her do it. And then and
Speaker 1: then they let the guys do it, and she called
Speaker 1: them sexist. And so now now now she can do it.
Speaker 1: Now forty seasons and we have a black batch. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's fully like, all right, yeah, that's much different when
Speaker 1: I just saw her as someone who was so like,
Speaker 1: so needed to be on another TV show, and she
Speaker 1: was responding to that because I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm even observing. Oh my god, I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna watch and then cry with you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm hopefully I think you realize. Hopefully you realize that
Speaker 1: we did. I started listening to this podcast with Peter
Speaker 1: season I loved it so much that I've gone back
Speaker 1: and listen to Hannah and Colton's as well. That's so sweet.
Speaker 1: It's been such a great part of my Quarantine experience
Speaker 1: when you decided to recap one public season was such
Speaker 1: a fun thing to look forward to every week. My
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I and I'm guessing a lot of your
Speaker 1: fans blew through the one policies to be able to
Speaker 1: laugh along with you and Jerry and Lori and the
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Speaker 1: I worry about by the time you air them, I
Speaker 1: will barely remember the episodes. I'm assuming many of your
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