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Yeah, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.680 we met the day remember Jez had a show at 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:07.520 the Pearl Freddie opened. Nah. See that was that had 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.960 to be way. That had to be because I met 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.200 you with fred who met me with Fred You met 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.920 me with Freddie when we did the I had to 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.080 be That was twenty twelve going Yeah, that was twenty 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.320 eleven going on twenty twelve, he had a show. We 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:28.959 went from Vegas Tucson, Vegas. I mean we went to Phoenix, Tucson, Vegas, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.760 and then back to LA. And then that's what I 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.919 met you in Phoenix. I think you put all three 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.120 four shows together. I put a couple shows together for 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:37.920 Freddy and Phoenix. But I'm telling you, I met you 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.800 at the Pearl. I'm pretty sure were you at that show. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.560 I probably was, though, Yeah you think Jeez was doing 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.040 in Vegas or yeah, what I'm saying at the same time, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.520 I was there, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, for 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.760 people who don't know, man, you you've been a staple 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.200 in LA for a long time. You got your store 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.160 of the level up store, sir, that's booming, and you 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.480 know you've been an artist for how long have you been? 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.280 Like when did you first start releasing music? First start 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:07.400 releasing music was two thousand and seven, Yeah, and then 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.440 two thousand and eight was kind of like I was solidified, like, man, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.600 that's an artist, right right, right right, and then I 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.360 really learned how to rap. Two thousand and nine, you 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.359 feel twenty ten has just been learning how the game. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.080 You know, what was your like the first person who 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.200 kind of got behind you and co signed you in 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:29.000 La Sug Sugar, I'm on death road before I met Jeez, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:30.959 you know what I mean. And then the whole shit 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:32.920 he got getting shot, you know what I'm saying, He 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.080 like disappeared. You know, he had his own shit going on, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.640 So you know how that go. I remember Gez called 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.440 in like, man, if that shit don't work over there, 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.640 come on through. So you signed? What year did you sign? 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.640 What were you? What year did you meet Sugar and 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.840 start rolling with him at Sugar in two thousand and five? 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.480 Oh wow? Through my homie, my big homie, Peewee rest 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.240 in Peak. So I mean, you know, just like every 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.640 nigga in La everybody rapped, you know what I mean. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.400 So I was making you know, freestyles in the garage, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.560 putting them on CDs and giving them to my homies. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.000 So I was a rapper in my neighborhood. You know 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.520 what I'm saying. That's a you know coming up. And 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.880 then one day my homie was like, yeah, you know, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.080 I know somebody that I was in the face with 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.760 Shugar Pot and we told him about you. We're gonna whatever. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.120 So we I'm in Vegas one day and they like 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.400 shug Get, the Strip Club, the Crazy Horse. So we 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.520 pull up with my homies, you know, and I introduced myself. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.960 He like, yeah, we just took it from there and 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.600 come to l a start recording. I had songs with 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.600 Tupac and kind of ship. I ain't never heard him 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.360 every I walked out the studio, but yeah, he first 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.920 person to put me in a big boy studio. Yeah, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.760 put to my closer to your face. Yeah, he's the 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.120 first one put me in the Big Boys studio. That's 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.160 when Pete Pablo was over there. I remember when Pete 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.880 was under that was a very weird. Yeah situation, but ship, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.960 you know, it never made sense to me. Nah. Nah, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.000 he thought he was Tupac or something like Yeah, because 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.680 there was like that era when it was that double 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.640 XL cover with Corrupt Eastwood was crooked eye on that 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.080 cover and the left eye. Yeah I'm talking, I'm talking. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.880 That was before that was that had to be two 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.359 thousand and one. Yeah, that was way before the first 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.800 got out, right, And so you met him kind of 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.680 like that kind of two thousand and five, so that 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:21.960 had kind of already fallen apart, and he had had 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.400 I think, I think, really when I started hanging out 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.359 over there, Corrupt was over there. So I kind of 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.360 met Shug when Corrupt was there. You know what I mean, 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.680 because I used to hang with Roscoe and Tone all 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.880 of White. Remember, of course Roscoe Rosco was so fire. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.440 That was hard on the intro on Streets as a mother, bro, 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.400 come on, That's what made me want to cor And 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.840 when I who's that song called? When I called shots 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:53.640 out here? I know that full words. Oh my god, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.160 for bar that was the that was one of the 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.400 most left on albums ever. Corrupt Streets is a mother 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.920 and that fucking Roscoe verse. He set the whole It 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.359 was track one. He set the whole tone for the 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.960 rest of the project. I remember thinking, like, Yo, Rosco's next, 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.800 and then I didn't. It was my age though, I'm like, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.039 damn that food my age. When I first met, I'm like, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.919 we the same age. He caught that, Like yo, he 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.800 caught that smooth sailing record. I was like, oh, it's 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.400 I don't remember that. But then he was on Girls. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.400 He was on Girls all Paul, So you were hanging 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.479 out with the YA dudes hanging out with YA. But 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.599 I wasn't rapping though, so they kind of gave me 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.840 the motivation of ship. Man, I'm hanging with these and 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.600 these every day. They could do it, I could do it, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.080 you know what I mean. But I always was in 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.760 the cut trying to write or trying to put it together, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.800 you know what I'm saying. And yeah, well so when 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.960 I guess when that kind of fell apart of everything 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.000 over there, you know, this dismantled. It came about like 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.360 two more years later and then I just fell in. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.560 But I never really like introduced the one on one 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.440 with Sugar, like I'm you know what I'm saying, whoo whoop, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.760 and you know what I mean. But about two thousand 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.680 and five came around and I introduced myself and we 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.840 had our one on one and then he started come 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.039 telling me to come to the studio. How do you think, like, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.800 how would you describe Sugar as a person based on 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.520 your relationship with nothing as as everybody think he is, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.040 He's just a big old cool nigga. To me, one 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.640 of the coolest niggas I ever met, Because we hear 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.360 all this crazy shit and then you hear people who 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.200 like really know they're like, man, Sugar is one of 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.520 the realists, Like one of the realist, coolest niggas one 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.160 of the I mean the stories he'll tell you. You You 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.680 feel me to even sit sit in the circle and 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.440 listen to these stories he'll tell you, and it's just like, yeah, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.680 so after after watching, after knowing him, and then watching 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.280 all these fucking weird ass ships that they got on 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.480 TV about Tupac and Biggie and Shug this and Sugar that, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.160 I'd be like, damn, that's they just got the whole 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.600 ship on top of sug. It's just like, yeah, there's 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.320 all this they drag his name through the mud like that. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.800 You know. I feel like in that situation, with the 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.840 Tupac Biggie situation, obviously both of them dying, there had 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.800 to be you gotta you gotta figure out who the 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.760 bast is in the public made Sugar the bad guy 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:07.040 and that yeah, because because there was nobody there. I mean, look, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.320 both both murders are still the angel exactly made Puffy 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.240 an angel. But now it's coming out like he was 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.240 really on the same type of shit, you know what 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.280 I'm saying, Like some of this ship, man, it's like, damn, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.560 nigga twenty five years later, like you was on the 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.720 same type of ship. You got crips with you. I 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.840 just found that out, Like you had to come to 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.040 crips with you, bro, like you knew what you was doing, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.040 Like come on man, yeah, some of the uh stuff 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.120 that Like I remember there was an LA Times article 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.520 that came out about Puffy maybe like eight nine years ago, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:40.480 and it was like, oh, yeah, you're talking again. We 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.800 don't again. We don't know. I mean, at least I 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.959 don't know. Yeah. I mean there's people who think they 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.560 know exactly what happened on each side, right, But it's 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:55.120 it's interesting. I mean, Sugar like the bad guy. Sugar 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.000 was paying as the bad guy, and it made it 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.760 seem like niggas was bullying Puffy and Biggie and ship 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.480 like that. But I mean, it's just like it's the 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.560 same shit going on now. It's just like like an 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.079 out of town nigga come out here and you know 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.920 what I mean, get with some get with a nigga 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.960 like me or somebody or another homie and get the 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.640 gang banging. But it's just on a different platform because 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.559 you're this big ass rap star, you know what I mean. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.320 So it's it's like, I mean, it's like the culture 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:27.240 is the LA culture. I've been everywhere. Everybody want to 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.640 be an l A nigga. Everybody loved this culture. Crips, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.320 bloods man, the crypt Walk and all this shit is 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.480 just uh, it's just I don't I can't even explain it. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.000 But we influenced the rest of the America, the rest 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.240 of the world, you feel me. Really, it's just something 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.199 about l A culture, you know that the gang ship 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.600 and the way we stand. I was we was at 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.679 the restaurant yesterday and the Homy from Chicago like you 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.320 I gotta I gotta put my feet like this and 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.640 be like, yeah, what's up. I'm like, that's that's just 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.720 it's it's funny, but it's crazy that this is how 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.640 the rest of the people think of us, you know, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.920 but they like it though. You know what I'm saying. Well, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.320 I mean I was talking to Big U and I 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.679 was like, you know, before he went to prison, I 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.800 was like, yo, before you went to prison, Like like 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.880 he was in prison when the peak of gang banging 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.600 became like commercial. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:20.880 you remember back in the day, there was like a 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.880 Cryps Versus Bloods album and like that's my one of 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.480 my favorite albums Banging on Wax Bang Won two, and 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.600 then it went from Donald Riders to Nationwide Riders. Right, So, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.280 like there was that that point in time when the 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.280 gang ship became so cool in the nineties colors came 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.520 out or like I think that was late eighties early nineties, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.680 but like it became just like a worldwide thing. And 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.280 that's I think, like you said, like just La influencing 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.960 the world as far as like there's crips and sets 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.600 and bloods. Brother the kid on Empire, Dusty Lokine is 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:57.320 talking neighborhood cripshit and he's from Brooklyn. It's insane, but 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.680 it's just like how to I I just like I 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.760 tell everybody else to define why niggas gang bang everywhere else. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.959 All you gotta do is listen to Summer Vacation from 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.920 ice Cube. All these is not even gang niggas, ain't 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.880 niggas out of town, ain't gang banging. They is just 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.920 from a gang. So they're just gang members. They're not 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.880 this is not their culture. There's just something for them 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.040 to do. What's the different, Like give me because people 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.040 for people who are watching the drug gangs, that's what 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.680 I'm saying, like, give me that. So when you say 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.880 gang banging, what is that like? With gang banging, it's 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.040 like we're gonna we're gonna wake up today, We're gonna 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.800 go put in some work on. Feel me like, if 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.760 you're a blood, you're gonna go shoot some crips, or 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.760 you're gonna go beat up some crips, or you're riding 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.520 around to go find these people, you know, vice versa. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.160 And then I feel like I feel like I ain't 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.679 gonna say all the out of town people, but a 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.600 lot of people from out of town that's not like 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.600 you'll be from sixties, but you've never been on sixtieth Street, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.160 y'a don't have a sixtieth Street in your neighborhood. You 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.440 know what I'm saying. Niggas is saying they from POWERU 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.439 like you ain't like you feel me, y'all woke up 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:06.720 in fucking Kansas somewhere, you know what I'm saying. So, y'all, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.360 just like ice cubes say niggas dying and banging over 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.800 the streets that they ain't never heard of you feel me, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.800 or been to or so it's like they waking up 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.280 and they just claiming the gang and claiming the shit. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.000 But it's like the good, the good parts have come 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.040 with it, but like you ain't really not really here 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.680 for that part, for the not taking this bad port. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.319 But don't get it wrong, Like I've been in the 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.400 places where niggas is really gang banging, but got their 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.920 own gangs and their own neighborhoods. Prime example, fucking making 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.760 Georgia them nigga's out there, like nineteen ninety four. Out there, 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.840 mothers got their own gang, their own section, their own name, 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.439 they and they doing it how we do it out here. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.800 It's just it's just different. So I can't say everybody, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.960 but a lot of the majority is just it's just different, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.720 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I do think that, 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.000 like because because people will not understand what it means 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.440 to get banged on. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like DJ 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.400 had had to educate me when I moved out here 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.480 and be like, hey, look like you know you like 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.400 he had, I know, you're like dude, he gave me 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.760 the whole hot rundown. He was like, look, t hat on? 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.360 What does this hat mean? It means you mean gangster crib. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.480 Basically it's crazy. I mean when it's blue. So I 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.559 literally I got this hat with trade that could be 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.640 in trouble. Me and Freddie were in we were in Austin, Texas, 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.040 and I bought this hat. But we in LA Now 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.880 I know, I know. So it's crazy to get rough. Bro. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.400 Bro Head had to give me the whole breakdown. He's like, look, Bro, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.320 you can't wear Yankees hats unless you're in the valley. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.840 He's like, he's like Astro hats out. He's like, he 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.880 gave me the whole ship, and I was like, fuck, 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.240 I was telling him. I was telling less, you know, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.199 you gotta lead him Houston hat. Leave it. People think 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.839 you're a fucking Hoover. Yeah, we don't care if you're 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.960 an Astro fan or not. You gotta lead that ship 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.560 somewhere else, bro, because we're gonna spin off and Nigga 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.400 gonna get on you where you from. Check it out? 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.760 All that is like, Bro, check it out. It hit 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.800 you that Bro, you better just get out the way 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.320 or you feel me it's for to get bad. Yeah, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.360 it's wild because like I was like, bro, look I'm 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.520 from Arizona. What about a Diamondbacks hat. He's like, I 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.560 think you're good with that he's like that, And just 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.800 a plain black might wake up in a bad mood 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.360 and you could have a fucking you got the A 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.560 hat on, he could have a that shit don't even 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.720 mean nothing. The nigga might just be like me, what 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.680 that A stand for? Like just because he in a 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.720 bad mood? Like, bro, be like mast so what fuck 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.720 all that? You feel me? Take that ship off, and 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.640 the motherfucker'd be really in you know what I'm saying. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.040 On a bad day, had told me he was like, look, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.280 if anyone ever tries to bang on you just start 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.160 acting super pissed off, like you just got into a 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.000 fight with your girl. The man just left me here, 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.040 I'm waiting from my uber. I'm gonna kill this head, 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.120 gonna get you fucked up. He's about to tell the 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.040 motherfucker man, I'm not from here, you feel me. I'm 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.680 not from over here. I'm from I'm from Arizona. Like, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.160 motherfucker Like all right, all right, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.040 And my out of town probably be coming here and 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.640 they be like, man, I can't wear red, I can't 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.840 wear blue. Like bro, all you gotta do is speak 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.040 You sound like you from Florida or something like, Man, 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.360 ain't nobody worried about you? But it's only in these sections, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.760 like we're in North Hollywood. Bro't I'm not gonna walk 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.800 down the street. Ain't nobody finna say nothing? You know 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.240 what I'm saying. If you're in a certain areas south 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.040 of fucking Wheelshire or some ship like that, really south 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:20.160 of when you passed fucking what is that ship like 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.280 Olympic south of the Olympic, makes sure you it's you 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.760 can get banged on. I feel me, you feel me 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:31.200 at the seven eleven, the gas station, all that burger spots, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.800 you know, that's that's where it goes up at the 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.280 mall right, you know what I mean? So being around sugar, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.800 what's like there? What's your craziest sugar Night's story? Man 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.560 that you that that you were around because that was 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.280 an interesting like time of sugs because when did when 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.840 did he get into get into it with the barber dude? 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.680 Remember there was the barber that that punched, Oh yeah 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.280 with Greg. I went to school with that nigga. I 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.800 know him too. Yeah that was that was like that 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:03.400 was yeah, yeah big when yeah, people were still wearing 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.480 big clothes. I remember that people were still wearing big clothes. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.000 I remember that. Yeah, I was in Atlanta when that happened, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.520 and yeah, so I wasn't around for that. It was 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.640 the crazy shit you're around with Shulgar Man. I can't 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.960 even really put my put my finger on it. It's 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.760 just we balled out, really like every time I'm with him, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.040 we balling out. I remember, Okay, I remember one time though, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.600 with really, like when I first started working with him. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:35.240 I'm on, I'm in Lake Tahoe. I'm on a little 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.200 vacation and ship. So he called me out of nowhere. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.680 It's when the chirps was out here, like yeah, hey, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.760 what you're doing. I'm like, man, I'm chilling, Like he 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.520 comes to the studio right now. But I got these 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.080 girls with me though, you know what I mean. So 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.240 I'm like, no, no, no. Before that, I'm like, I 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.280 feel like you try to play me on the speakerphone 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.240 in front of these bitches. You feel me? So I'm like, 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.800 I'm like, hey, hommy, you feel me? Nigga? I ain't 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.880 a I'm thinking it's the Snoop Dogg in the back 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:02.360 of the day ship. How I'm like, bro, this this 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.640 ain't that nigga. Power Nigga. He like, man, chill out 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.760 bro comes to the studio, Nigga gonna pay for everything. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.320 I'm like, yea, all right, but I was low key 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.320 embarrassed because he like Nigga dropped everything, comes to the 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.640 studio right now and heard it. That's all I heard 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.000 was or else, But he ain't say that though, that's 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.760 what you heard? What I heard like that or else? 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.639 Like hold over, you think you talking to you feel me? 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.160 But so I'm like, all right, I'm coach studio nick 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.080 Now I went, I remember I drove the Reno. They 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.040 dropped me off to Reno. I'll put my whole vacation 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.400 on pause, fly out here just to record like folk songs, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.760 you know what I'm saying. And he cashed me out 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.439 like here go on thousand. My ticket was on like 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.639 two fifty round trip or something like that. Put me 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.480 in the hotel and all I'm like, all in, you 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.359 feel me? He had the suitcase, the briefcase, opened the 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.920 briefcase up and he had all this money in the briefcase. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.159 I said, this nigga really rich rich Huh. He was 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.040 just moving he was still moving around like shugar. He 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.119 was moving around like Sugar, and he thought he was 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.600 broken all that. Like, man, he had a new Porsche, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.399 the new the newest cars out, living in Century City 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.679 Plaza whatever that you're called over there and living he 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.480 lived there at the top of the penthouse. You know, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.520 I think there was like a obviously the public perception 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.919 of Sugars. He was like this huge blood that was 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.680 like ran in La and well look when we walked 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.560 through so so everybody hate on him. But when we 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.120 walked through the Palms or we be in Vegas, it'd 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.000 be it'd be like hell of white people like, oh 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.640 can I get a picture? We love you? And Italians 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.480 like I'll be like, damn, they like you get love. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.879 But motherfucker walk off and be like, fuck Sugar. He 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.439 he killed Tupac and he did this and he did that, 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.040 and he's a murderer and all this, a woman beater 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.560 and all that. I'm like, this nigga's like the coolest 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.560 nigga in the world, right, you know what I mean, 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.479 that's crazy the game and all that too. So from 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.760 the death throw situation, is how you ended up working 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:57.040 with Jez after that? Yeah? So yeah, So I was 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.439 already hanging out in Atlanta, and shit, and you know, 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.760 hanging with I had a friend that was I worked 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.920 with Jez, so they introduced me and all that. So 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.600 at the time, I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm fucking 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.439 we should trying to do my rap shit and all that. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.520 I go hang with them, and he just told me, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.359 you know, when if that don't work out, you know, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.600 you got a home over here, like all right, so 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.800 when it didn't work out, I'll start hanging out over 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.320 there with them, going to the promo tours and then 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.720 and it just turned into it took me like a 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.520 year to get signed over there for TT Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.600 so yeah, I think like that was like a cool 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.440 I think that was a cool moment because at the time, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.000 obviously Jesz was putting out hell of mixtapes. And then 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.640 I feel like it was kind of like CT second 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.840 run kind of this was the first run, but no, no, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.399 I feel like I feel like tw twenty eleven was 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.320 kind of like, nah, I got signed over there in 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.399 two thousand and seven, Oh shit, yeah, so this was 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.720 this is the first run. That's the first run. That's 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.119 the first one signed the CT depth jam. So I 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.720 was on the label deal. Oh so yeah, I don't 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.040 know why I thought you were you signed over there 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.960 like early. No, I was there before. I was there 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.439 before Freddy. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.359 was like one of the first artists over there. It 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.720 was slick, pulling and blood right, and then they put 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.960 out the Then Rocket came. Okay, yeah, I been Rocket 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.879 and then already had a relationship. But then me and 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.600 Rocket got like this because from out here, So it 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.880 was just a look, you know what I'm saying, and 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.240 then yeah, I just start putting out music. And then 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.080 I think Freddy got there in twenty ten, but already 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.439 knew Freddy from out here. Jay Rock introduced me to 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.640 Freddy the first night we met. We did a song 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.240 after the club one night, you know what I mean. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.359 And we've just been cool ever since. Yeah, it's crazy 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:47.760 because didn't did you leave? You left CTE after fred right, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:53.919 that was before so Freddy got there and what was 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.240 that the beginning of twenty ten? I left him? Know 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:02.400 he got there beginning of two thousand and let yeah, shit, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.679 and I left like in the public. I left in 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.320 like twelve, but I was already gone from a little 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.720 money situation, like the end of twenty eleven. You know 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.920 what I mean. Yeah, it's crazy because obviously you and 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.480 Fred have kept a relationship for so long despite a 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.720 situation like that. Might you know, people kind of choose up, 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.520 you know what I'm saying. No, they chose up on me. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:28.760 And that's the only reason why I fucked with Freddie's 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.760 so tough because he was the only nigga that stayed 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.120 down with me, like in my even when I met 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:34.800 you that time. Only reason I went on that tour 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.720 because I had he knew that I was leaving the 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.639 CT situation. They fucked me over like four hundred thousand. 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.280 I'm like, man, fuck these niggas. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.800 I a't have a big enough microphone to go and 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:47.720 just be dissing because it's gonna make me look better. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.080 So I'm like, man, I'm gonna just do what I'm 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:53.159 gonna do, you know what I'm saying. And everybody like 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.480 bailed on me, and I had so much slander. I 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.320 was going through much, so much shit at the time. 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:00.600 You know that everybody bailed on me. He was the 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.040 only one that was like bro still he like That's 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:04.880 how I came to Arizona. He's like, Bro, you got 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.200 to get out of LA. It's fucked. You got a 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.080 lot of shit going on right now, Come on tour 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.359 with me. Now I remember that. I'm like, bro, bring 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.919 my gun and all that shit. You're like, nah, I 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.320 ain't telling you don't bring it, but right right, you 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:18.119 ain't gonna need it, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.360 nigga for a rap concert, like you feel me, ain't 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.120 gonna need no pistol or nothing, no protection, like nah, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.119 it's not like that. Yeah, it's crazy because I know 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:31.560 Fred's side of what happened at ah at CTE, and 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.399 it seems as if a lot of the people, almost 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.399 everyone who was around j Z early on, it's not 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.720 there anymore. Nobody fucks with that nigga and no, and 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.640 nobody's got anything good to say about And I met 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.600 Jeez a bunch, but you know, even like a shout 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.679 out to Carbon fifteen fifteen, you know that's that was 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.399 my guy who was you know, anytime I needed anything 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.800 Jez related, I would hit fifteen, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.920 And obviously we still be business. Real dude, man, he's 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.560 still I still talk a body over there, Damn. Like 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.520 Pulla just got out. I spoke to him briefly, but 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:08.119 like me, Freddy, I talked to Kink all the time. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.000 What do you think? I mean, you were around Gez 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.439 a lot longer than fred so you know you were 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.479 around that that whole situation. He was like, man, why 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.359 I ain't tell me? I'm like, bro, what I look like? 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.480 I can't tell I didn't bring you in a situation. 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.960 I would have been like, you feel me. This ain't it, bro, 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.320 this ain't gonna happen. You knew it wasn't it pretty soon, 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.240 pretty quick? Or I knew it wasn't it when he 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.679 when they appeared on the bus and I'm like, what 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.040 you're doing here? Bro? He like, man, fin the sign 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:34.600 over here and I'm like, oh, we're going to see 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.280 our double a and they like you know him. I'm like, yeah, 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.800 this is just a homie. What you mean? Like he's 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.760 from Gary. I'm like this nigga live in l A, Bro, 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.439 Like we got songs together and everything, okay. Cool. I 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.320 was never mad at Freddie. I'm looking at JIZI like, Nigga, 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:51.040 you bring a new artists in and you can't even 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.480 you can't even work the artists you've had on the 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.560 label for that. Niggas in debt and some most shit, 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.159 we don't have no music, Like what's going on, you 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:02.240 know what I'm saying, And so I ain't gonna I think. 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.720 I think one day he was just like the way 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.480 I left was he caught this big old meeting and 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.840 the nigga was like, yeah, I'm not giving no money out, 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.040 which was giving no money out in the first place, 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:16.600 and he like, uh, you know, niggas gotta gotta go 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.119 out and use the name and the label to get money. 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.119 So I'm like, that's what I did, you know what 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.280 I mean? And I went and got a four hundred 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.800 thousand dollars deal for some music, half the music that 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.080 was already out and half was unreleased music. And the 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.720 nigga sent me assistant decease. I was with SMC, So 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:36.000 he told you. Nigga told me to go do this, 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.760 and then do it. He hit you with the season, 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.399 the whole ship up, and I'm getting your artists money. 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.720 I could have just pocketed all of this ship myself 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.720 and been like fuck y'all, you know what I mean. 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.880 And from that point on, I'm like, bro, they had 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.600 me fool like this family first, and it's some family ship. 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.760 I was gonna say, like, based on your you were 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.640 around g Z, I guess probably when he was transitioning 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.560 out of being known it is like a really hardcore 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.240 gangster rapper into him kind of becoming more of a 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.240 staple in him. I was there for so I met 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:12.879 him today the day Motivation went gold in Vegas. Wow, 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.480 you know what I mean? And then I was with 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:18.120 them damn near all time great album. Yeah, I ain't 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.360 gonna knock that. Yeah, that was a great album all 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:26.359 the way up until what the one O three? Like that? Yes, 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.160 Because I was gonna say, like, I think that people 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:31.880 from the outside look at him will be like, look, 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:38.200 well Geez obviously has grown into who he is today, right, 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.679 and you could say whatever you want to say. I 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.560 just saw the interview with his old partner that was 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.960 on the Yeah, and where he was like, look that 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.919 versus scratched any any street credit he could ever have 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.520 out mystery. Yeah. I don't know what he was thinking 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:56.520 with that, but I know he was thinking, it's a look, 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.160 nigga do anything for a look. You know, he's hosting 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.640 the fucking Talk Like I think Jzu's an obviousty right now, 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.199 he reaching he thirsty. He don't know what to do. 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.320 Niggas ain't fucking with him. He ain't got no real 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:11.000 niggas with him. Were you around when the Gucci beef 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:17.920 was pretty pretty serious? It was always serious, but no 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.320 should I don't know. I actually ran into Gucci one time. 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.199 I ran into I ran into all of them on 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.480 my own time, you know, out here, like what's happening? 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.560 Woker too, and me and Whacka were cool, like that's 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.119 the hummy, right, ran into Waka. We chopped it up. 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:37.920 Twenty ten months later, I run into Gucci in my studio. 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.240 Remember that, Yeah, me and Gucci chopped it up. He 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.160 was so cool. I'm like, damn, bro, why I don't 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.200 like this nigga? You feel me? Gucci was cool as fuck? 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:50.159 And and yes, but then I've been in clubs and 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.720 we was all together and ain't nothing happened, you know 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.359 what I'm saying. So I was confused. But that's what 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.639 Fred was telling me. Be like, man, like, I'm the 0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.480 like friends of the type of motherfucker. We got problems. 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.320 We in the same play. Something's gonna happen. Oh, That's 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.240 what I was confused. We'd be in Central Station and 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.439 them niggas be right over there and I'm like, okay, 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.440 well let's get it. Wasn't there. There was a when 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.040 the NMG bef got kind of I was gone, you're 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:16.600 already gone on, Yeah, I was there. I was. I 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.119 think all that ship was over a bitch. That's what 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:23.119 I heard, honestly, really, because I was there all that 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.760 ship around. When did the BMF come out? The song 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:32.879 that was all that that time when that ship came out, 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.840 and it was basically it seemed like it was over 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.959 a bitch and that and that song you feel mean, 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:39.840 Nigga was mad. I don't know if he felt like 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.359 he should have made that song to get that, you 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.199 know what I mean? Butig who cares? So it was 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.520 just a whole bunch of weird shit going on. But 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.800 I was cool with Ross. Ross gave me a verse 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.080 all kind of ship like, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.719 But then I left in the midst of all that, 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.440 you know what I mean, and they had to figure 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.960 that shit out. Damn. Did you notice like a change 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:04.000 with Jez's energy just like over time, like because if 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:05.919 you were around in seven, I feel like that was 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:10.119 kind of GEZ probably still moving a certain way with 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.200 a certain type of people around him, you know what 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.879 I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of people 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.320 was just he ended up getting that deaf jam situation, 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.399 which was was that that was later right, Uh, he 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.800 was already he was always on death gym. No, I 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:27.399 mean I mean the Atlantic, Yeah, he was. I was 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.280 gone by the end. Yeah. So yeah, it's just like 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.280 you'll hear some people who around GZ like super early 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.120 and they'll be like, yeah, sh it was like real 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:35.919 out like it was some real ship going on. And 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.200 then you know, I mean it was active. It was 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:39.960 some active shit going on. We didn't got into some 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.960 ship before and it was real activity. I can't knock that. 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.280 But just on some low tea and business ship it was. 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.560 It wasn't solid, which explains why nobody fucks with him 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.760 no more. And it's just like and then look and 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.120 like I think, like again, like I'm a fan of Jiz. 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:58.680 I've been around him. He's a nice guy. I never 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.239 I don't have any personal issues with him. But just 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.360 like from a fan's perspective, you'll look at like CT 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:03.840 and you'll be like, dang, no one ever came out 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.880 of CT and you can say, y G, he had 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.960 he had guys, but you can say y G. But 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.160 why G was already on death jam and they kind 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.680 of just threw the CT you through it and then yeah, 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.640 I think that was kind of got in his ear 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.760 about that ship. But I left in the midst of that, 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.040 like the whole YG going on. I told I told GZ, 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.920 I said, man, it's the guy. He's finna be the 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.240 next nigga. Up. Well, we were in colony. I'm like, 0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.680 and I told just incredible. We unplugged drama computer and 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.560 plugged just incredible. Up. We're telling drama play off YG ship, Like, 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.400 who is that? I'm like, what nigga unplugged this ship? Bro? 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.720 Pluging just incredible ship? Up? Man, play that YG ship. 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.440 I'm texting my boy to text him, tell him what 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.840 songs to play. I'm telling him in GZ ear it's 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:49.040 my birthday too, so I'm drunk, you feeling washed. I'm 0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.160 telling watch how this club turn around. He played one 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.520 joint boom, play another joint boom though the crowd the 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.400 club just turn up from there. I'm like, Bro, it's 0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:00.640 the nigga young homie woo whoop. He got like a 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.600 situation at death Jam. I don't think they know what 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.200 to do with it. You need to pull these strings, 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.280 bring them over here. He's like, yeah, well this ship 0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.120 ain't got finnah, get up my chain. We finna come 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.480 over here. And da da da da no, no, hold on, 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.360 hold on, hold on, feel me dah da dah. But 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.920 I'm I'm telling this nigga like he's the guy. Bro. 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.520 This is because we had in the condo in Atlanta. 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.960 Every morning, I'm waking up playing yg Nipson. You know 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.600 what I'm saying, the shit that I that we listened 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.960 to out here, and they like, man, you're playing that ship. 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.680 I'm like, what you mean? This is the ship that 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.320 were playing in LA. This is what's going on. Yeah, 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.800 And and I leave thirty days after that. We fall 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.240 out thirty sixty days after that, and then I remember, 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.719 I remember some mixtapes coming out, you know what I mean, 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.360 And then we I hear them on songs and taking pictures. 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.880 I'm like, okay, here it ran, it's happening. It's cool. 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.280 Though I never was like mad about it or nothing 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:50.960 like that, you know what I'm saying. And it just 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.360 turned into what it turned into what did you think 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.760 when you saw the versus thing? Did you like? Like? 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.680 What are you? What are your thoughts on it? Clay 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:04.000 this else? You think? So played itself every step of 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.680 the way, like what you sell no records like that. 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.480 Don't nobody even know you had an album come out, 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.320 and you did all this just to ship on the people. 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.920 I was sliding with you, like you know, Mactown niggas. Basically, yeah, 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.160 I mean it looks like I mean the guy that died, 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.840 you know what I'm saying. And then Gucci showed his ass. 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.400 So yeah, I think I think when Gucci started getting disrespectful, man, 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.960 Gucci been disrespectful. No, no, but I'm saying like I 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:34.760 knew Gucci was gonna be disrespectful. Yes, Gucci was on Instagram. 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.120 He came out swinging with the whole original new song. No, 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:39.920 that wasn't new. I thought that first song was a 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.160 new song. That song was this is Gucci man. First geez, 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.280 that ship was out. When State Trapped came out, we 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.480 was watching these videos. We was watching this feud from 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.680 out here. I didn't know them when this happened, you 0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.440 know what I mean? And then I kind of fell 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.400 over there like, and it was already going on. Really, 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.600 Gucci was in jail when I got signed over there. 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:00.840 So so let me I you this because I think 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.680 like the other side of the coin is like, well, 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:08.800 Jez's showing people that you know, you can grow all 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.680 that you can growing because the homie, rest and peace 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.320 can't grow. You feel me, you're doing all this for what? Now? 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.360 You didn't you didn't try to shoo on this nigga 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.120 your whole career and his whole career. What's the use 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.920 of y'all patching up? Like? I feel you? You know 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.560 that's cool, But like, come on, man, you let me 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.960 ask you. Don't you think if you're in jezus all 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.480 that ship was for? Look, no, I feel your work. 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.120 He thought it was going to work because originally it 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:35.960 was supposed to be Jez versus T. I yeah, but 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.680 he man, of course you got this. That's why we're 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.280 talking about it now. He did that. I don't know. 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.880 I think he think of like where Jeez probably is 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.120 in life. He's got kids, in college, he just got married. 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.720 He's definitely all the way out of that side of that, 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.240 you know, so we don't even know if who he 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.120 is then because this whole time we've been doing this, person, 0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.040 you feel me. Yeah, I think when someone loses their 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.800 life because of the situation is when you didn't even 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.440 it couldn't even. I'm not saying you had to go 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.200 do nothing, but you didn't have to do this right, 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.479 Like it's Gucci already on top. Let me ask you this, 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.080 do you think if somebody sees what happened with Jizi 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:16.760 and Gucci and they in their personal situations with somebody 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.320 in this Because I think that that's something that's so 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.400 hard about stopping some of this violence, right Because how 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.760 you're gonna tell me to not do this to somebody 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.720 when my cousin's dead over this shit or you know, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.360 my partner or whoever, and it's been so long, like 0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.600 you just brought more ship out of the closet that 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.200 was already kind of like you know, it was calmed down. 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.160 But do you think yeah? I mean, I mean, do 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.640 you but do you think that there's some good that 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.280 could have came out of that, whether it was maybe 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.720 influencing somebody who watched the verses? Do you mean I 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.720 feel like it was some good that they did the 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.000 song at the end, and you know, it's cool. Ain't 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.360 nobody get shot or fired or nothing like that. You 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.200 kind of showed a little, but deep down, the only 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.320 reason we know these people is because of these situations 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.120 and the people that you claim to be, that you've 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.400 been telling us that you are and who we fell 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.600 in love with. And at the end of the day, 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.360 it's like, I don't think Jesz's been that guy for 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.200 a long time though, as far as just like the 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.200 persona he even the persona he gives out to everyone. Yeah, 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.919 but but we give it the benefit of the doubt 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.320 to be like, you steal the guy from Doug motivation 0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.359 and all these other inspirations, and you know you're still 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.720 somewhat of that guy. Now when you go against everything 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.920 that you told us who you are, it's like, now 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.200 we lost all faith in you, you know what I mean, 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.279 street wise, and this is who you built your shit on. 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.719 This is why Jezu's Jesus, because who you are and 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.759 what you've been doing, you know what I mean. So 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.120 I don't know, I don't know, you know what I mean, 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.799 But I know the people I'll be around and the 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.240 type of people I'll be with. They just not feeling 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:49.919 that shit yeah, just on the street side, I feel 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.840 like I have to do that, you know, no, I 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.560 think I just think that both. There's like the street 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.440 side of the coin where it's like, yeah, like come on, 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.680 someone died, you don't ever do that. And then they're like, hey, 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:06.000 look well obviously Jeez hasn't been that guy for so long. 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.080 But it don't even mean if you're that guy now, 0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.279 you done brought all these extra feelings up that was 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.040 already like that man, that that's rest in peace. He 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.000 got a kid, he got a son, you know what 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.000 I mean, he got family and all Thatshi over there 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.200 talking about smoking on that pack and come on, that 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.399 Gucci is the biggest nigga. You know what I'm saying. 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.160 All you did was you you you put Gucci like this. 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.319 You should have you man, you you should have just retired, bro, 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.719 when you said you was gonna retire three four years ago, 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.200 Like we don't. We don't need all this extra shit 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.200 you you think you try and do, go get married, 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.680 go with your girl and all that, and y'all go 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.520 do what y'all doing. Get out the way. Basically in 0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.360 the way, bro, get out the way. You know what 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:47.239 I'm saying. Uh yeah, yeah, I thought from just from 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.120 a fan's perspective, I was, man, I was watching that 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.120 ship in the dark, like, what the fuck, bro? You 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.520 let that ride? You know what I'm saying, and you 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.400 come out with the BMF shirt on and all that, Like, man, 0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.239 I don't even them niggas don't even like you, bro, 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.759 Like what you trying? I do? We feel me? I 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.400 don't understand this. You know he was he was reaching, 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.920 you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, whatever, So you 0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.680 got your new album out, uh, Masters in Mind, which 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.759 is it's like, is it eight or nine songs A song? 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.880 A songs? Yeah? It feels like are you and Freddie 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:22.280 joint project? I mean it's really basically right basically yeah, 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.680 you know he's not on two of them. Uh yeah, yeah, 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.319 he only on six, right, So he's on six out 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:33.919 of eight. Yeah, and I was the album's fire good looking, 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:39.799 good look what like obviously relationship is so strong. He's 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:47.759 had such a crazy yeah yeah the last two years. Yeah, 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.640 I ain't surprised. I think he came out of that 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:56.560 jail situation, Craze. I think to the fact that we 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.960 were I think, you know, I told people like the 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.640 pandemic made made the world listen to rap music differently 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.239 because we ain't standing on couches, We ain't at the 0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:11.560 club popping bottles. Now you're listening in your headphones, yeah, 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.799 or you're listening in the car. In the car, and 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.880 so when you listen that way, you're like, it's a 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.080 different way of listening to music. Right. So that's when 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.319 it's like you see those Grammy nominations and it's Royce 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.160 to five nine. I never thought of it like that, 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.520 and it's nas and it's just like, oh shit, it's 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.480 a lot of real rap shit, rap shit. Yeah. And 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.920 you know fred Fred went from bandana to man he 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.520 afraid of right, No, no, no, no, for sure. But 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.680 I just mean, like twenty nineteen to twenty twenties, like crazy, 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.640 but like how dope has it been to like just 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:47.120 watch his last year two years? Shit, it's inspiring. I'll 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:51.600 be motivated, you know what I mean. Yeah, you go 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.960 crazy when your friends just motivate you. I ain't gotta 0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:55.880 go look at no strangers. You know, you can go 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.160 around the corner to the house and he'll he'll bust 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.279 a rap play. Damn you just did that, Okay, then 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.720 go in the studio and rap like he just dropped 0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.000 that ship. He probably like fox five songs in on 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.640 a new project already later and uh, the big boss 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.560 rappit shit he recorded like the day or two days 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.480 after the Grammy. Yeah, and it's already out. Video shot. Yeah, 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.279 we shot the video like I was there. I caught 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:20.959 up for a second and my wife was My wife 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.120 was banging on me, So I was like, guys, I 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.279 was like, look, I gotta go. So he work works, 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.239 so that'd be inspiring me. You know what I mean, 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.759 that ship even if he like this, you know what 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.520 I'm saying, I'm right here and I'm trying to get there. 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.640 I gotta work at least twice as hard as he 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.600 is to get to eat where he at, you know 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:41.080 what I'm saying. So did you ever consider because I 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.960 feel like you've you know, you opened your store and 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:49.160 you've kind of like helped with some younger artists. Have 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.000 you ever gotten to the point where you're like, Yo, 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.040 I'm gonna do this rap shit for fun if it 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.040 works out, cool, But like you're on, I feel like 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.319 I've just noticed you more as like doing boss shit, 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.319 doing community the shit, doing like you know, what I mean, 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.560 like and then like we get an album from you 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.080 and it's like, oh shit, yeah, this shit. I think. 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.719 I think everything is built from the music. You know, 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.200 everything comes from the music. That's what Perico be telling 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.719 me all the time. He like, yeah, man, you know 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.200 we're gonna do this. This this is but everything everything 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.399 starts here is the music. We can do all this. 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.640 It is even the reason that I can bring people 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.799 to the store. Well, I got this big this this 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.840 fucking franchise. I mean not franchise, but this Landmark restaurant 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.280 next door to me, right, But that's like maybe forty 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.720 five fifty percent of my clientele. And the other people 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.239 you bring to other people is from rap music, from Instagram, 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.160 from who I am pulling up and they're like, oh shit, 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.840 we gotta go to his store. All of this is 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.440 from the rap, you know what I mean. But I 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.239 can fall back on the rap, and I can still 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.440 stay relevant because of the store and the ship that 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.600 I'm throwing, and I can bring the younger artists in 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.799 and have pop ups. I can still be the guy 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.000 and bust these moves and stay relevant with content without 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.000 even dropping music. But it's still all revolves back to 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.040 the music. I'm saying, it's all gonna come back to 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.440 the music, So I gotta keep dropping, you know what 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.000 I mean. And it's just the passion and the checks 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:08.120 that's gonna come every month. It's like ship income, and yeah, 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.239 keep on rapping and dropping because it's easy. This is 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.719 when you think so fucking hard, like what we were 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.680 saying about those other artists, like you can't be sitting 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.520 here waiting nine years to drop a project, talk about 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.640 like how to get my money, right, I got it, 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.759 I got it. I mean, it's prime examples of a 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.800 certain artists I've watched it. You didn't need no money, 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.040 you need no money, like like Gucci and him. Day man, 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:37.960 Rouchie worked instead of money. He worked out, hustled everybody's studio, 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:43.799 five studio sessions a day, busting versus down. He didn't 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.760 have to spend no money because he he just outworked everybody. Now, Ruccie, 0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.399 I wanted to get to Rouccie because you know you 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.719 part of his his come up. Rouccie. I think the 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:55.719 first record I heard of him was lean like a 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.080 trollo ship Oh yeah, yeah, damn, you was just getting 0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.280 up on him on it. Yeah yeah, I was crazy. 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.960 Oh yeah, yeah, that was crazy. And uh I was like, 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.120 oh this Ship is yeah tight like some of the 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:11.680 remixed Yeah yeah that record. You know, but uh, how 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.480 did you how did you meet Ruccie? And like kind 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.520 of what you're involved in Rucci because obviously he's on 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:22.040 your Rouchie Daddy is my big homie, like Big Taco, 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:23.960 my big homie. He raised me in the streets from 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.320 when I was like thirteen, you know what I'm saying, 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.040 until Ship he went to jail, you know what I mean. 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.600 So now he's in Mexico, right, Yeah, he in Mexico. 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:37.239 Now he got deported. So so I known Rouchie and 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.239 Angels since they was little baby squeeze a babysit them, 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:41.919 you know what i mean. Make sure they don't drive 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.200 to go running in the driveway and Ship, you know 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.640 what I'm saying. So I've been knowing him as a 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.120 but then he kind of moved away for like four 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.759 or five years. And when he came back, I think 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.239 Sean Mack brought him in. I was my little brother, 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.000 rest in peace, you know what I'm saying. He brought 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.359 him in the studio one like I got mintioned in here. Man, 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.880 come on, bro Taco tripping, I got him hanging with us. 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.200 I'm like, nah, he went in there and dropped the 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:14.040 verse and I was like, damn, I'm roochie nigga. You 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.480 feel me. I'm like okay. And then ever since that 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.120 one verse, he just been boom boom boom boom grinding. 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.520 And then I feel like when the homie Sean died, 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:27.520 he he just just that ship just me with me. 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:31.120 When he passed, it just had me like I ain't 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:32.719 gonna say, like under a rock, I ain't had no 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:36.439 motivation to do nothing. It affected him the other way 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.839 affected him if it affected him like different, he just 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:41.960 the soul of him just came out and he was 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.520 like both of them rapping on songs. So he had 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:51.160 the aggression, the the the word play and everything all 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.480 in the song, everything that Sean had, and he just 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.839 added fuel to the flame, you know what I'm saying. 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.080 And he and it's just the work ethic, not him 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.359 to where he I'm saying where he at now? Who 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.120 I mean, you're you're really tapped in with the scene 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.000 out here. Who are some of the young la guys 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.439 that you're a fan of that you're you know, you're 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.160 fucking with fuck with Slumlord, you know from the Jungles 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:24.040 infant like Hey Riches, out of content. Who else I've 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:33.359 been listening to fuck with Chike, Yeah, off top, that's 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.040 that's like my playlist. Do you feel like because I 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.080 feel like, Uh, historically in l A, you know, because 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.000 of politics, a lot of uh there, there wasn't a 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.000 big sad funck with Big too big Sad. We talk 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:50.200 some ship, but but you know there's always politics in 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.080 l A, right, And I feel like throughout the years, 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.600 LA has probably been one of the more segregated hip 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.120 hop communities when it comes to like just the perception 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.640 of people not like doing you know, not fucking with 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.840 each other all the way. Like we always hear like Atlanta, 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.279 everyone's together, they all rock. But I feel like this 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.520 new j look like that shit out of town. But 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:12.279 fus don't be together though, right, But but they'd be 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.560 getting on each other's records. You know, it's crazy. But 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.400 in LA, this new generation, it feels like there's a 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.960 lot of camaraderie. You'll hear like one take Jay with Ruccie, 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.600 or you'll hear like, you know, I just feel like 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.120 I always hear everyone on each other. Shit. Now it 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:34.560 is like the new excuse me, like the new Like 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.640 it's it's different, but it's different in the good way. 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.719 I remember when I was growing up, like shit, to 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.919 even bust through, you had to be Snoop Dogg affiliated 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:44.680 you know what I mean, whether you was a gang 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.759 member or not, blood or crip or whatever, you had 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.640 to come through that channel to get on. You had 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.200 to come through that channel or the DRE channel. I mean, 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.080 the Snoop Dogg is the DRE channel. No, no, no, 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.080 that's some that's some crazy shit because I remember talking 0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.000 to Nipsey in like twenty ten when he was not 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.640 fucking with Dre. I mean, but you still he went 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.120 to Snoop Dogg. No no, but but but I remember, like, 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.160 think about I mean, you were a part of this 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:11.279 air nobody in my era, Glasses Malone, think about. But 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.200 I'm saying that, I'm not. I'm not talking about that. 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.080 I'm talking about there was that whole era of LA 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.920 rappers that just kind of got shunned by the It 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.719 was it was Glasses, it was it was j Rock, 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.840 it was it was it was Nipsy, you know, Rocket 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.359 you know yourself, Like there was like all these There 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.879 was like this scene in LA that almost like the 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:35.560 gate keepers quote unquote, you had to go through like Ignored, 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.400 to go to go through Snoop or doctor Dre to 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.440 be like you know what I mean, to get solidified. 0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:43.200 That's why other motherfuckers start going out to g Z 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.840 and Rough Riders, g Unit and ship like that, because 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.560 it was like, wasn't nobody here trying to put nobody 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.800 on yep, And then I think the only thing I 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:55.879 mean obviously Dre. I mean, Kendrick's a perfect example once 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:57.880 that Drake Co sign happened, just ship change. I'm not 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.000 saying Kendrick wouldn't have been great anyways, it's all time great, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.600 but like that, but yeah, when the when it was 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.520 like this, he became great though, it was like this. 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:10.560 So was that before Good Kid Mad City? Now? That 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.919 was now, that was after that was before section eighty. 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.120 It was before after section eight before oh yeah, it 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.480 was before section Remember that Key Club he had that 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:22.359 watching Yeah yeah when Game Game officially passed the torch. Yeah, 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:23.759 it was uh and then he had that watch out 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.120 for Detox freestyle, yeah, which is crazy. And then he 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.400 just went out of here. He just became the elite 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.919 after that. Yeah, And it's crazy because at the time 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.480 it was like like I was real tight with Nipsey 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:36.719 at that time, and it was like Nipsey was putting 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.200 so much work and game props the game because Game 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.000 gave a lot of people looks at that during that time, 0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:44.960 like you know what I'm saying that I don't think 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.560 so you don't think so. I mean, I know Game 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.759 put he put. He put nip on the road with 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.080 on the Lax tour and j Rock Like I'm seeing 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.080 like you know he had Glasses on on on Black 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.640 Wall Street and ship Like I just think that was 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:03.600 on Black Wall Street. He was, Yeah, I ain't know that. Yeah, 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.480 the Glasses put me on a word. What the people 0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.600 that that that that solidified me out here when I 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.560 was trying to have my CDs on me was these 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.799 are people that I still talk to to this I 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.359 talked to Glasses once a week. We argue about rap music. 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:24.279 Mitchie Slick, Rock and mister Fab. These guys was the 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.440 ones that like Mitchie Slick would be like, hey, bro, 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.680 it is you need to be here. We'll bring all 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.919 your CDs. Oh you can't, I'm gonna fly you out 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:33.480 you don't believe it, I'm gonna fly you out. Oh 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.120 you go stay at my spot in the bay and 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.080 record with these people. And Da da Da Glasses was 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.040 doing Hey, come to my show. I ain't doing no 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.799 show unless this one head was Glasses dja Hey, Yeah, 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.680 to eleven need to be on my show too, when 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:47.840 everybody was paying to remember all you used to do 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.000 all that, when you have to pay yeah, no to eleven. 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.799 If he not behind me, he need to be the 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.720 second one after that person needed to be rapping. Wooo, 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.879 mister fab oh come whatever. Whatever you to eleven need, 0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:00.960 he got it, and I was nobody. Bro was just 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.440 inglewood gang banger. You feel me with a chain, you 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.560 know what I'm saying. And I could barely even wraps 0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:09.319 one of the realists, man, Yeah, Glasses was pull up 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.759 in my hood in the dirty Bentley jumping out with 0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:13.799 a pro club on like, yeah, what we doing? He's 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.719 like hip hop skip baylists on Twitter. That motherfucker got 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.520 some wild hip hop opinions. Yeah he do though, and 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.440 comes up. Oh and another person that embraced me was 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.960 in Terrence Smarten. So these these are the guys that 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.520 I that was his studio two doors over for a while, 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:30.520 that was where he used to be at. Yeah. Yeah, 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.520 seeing these are people that embraced me in my beginning. 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.560 You know what I'm saying that I that I don't 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.160 forget this type of ship, you know what I mean? 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:41.120 So can't nobody tell me nothing about none of these people. 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:45.040 Mitchie Slick was still is a very underrated I mean, 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.920 I love strong arm Steady all that shit. Like I 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:49.920 would listen to his music before I even met him, 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.879 and he became like I would call, I call him 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.680 a big homie, you know what I'm saying, Like I 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.120 don't think he gets enough flowers. Man, No he don't, 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.200 But I mean in my book he do because I 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.760 tell anybody, and these these people that I just named 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.000 are the guys or my guys that that pulled me 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:09.160 in when niggas wasn't pulling nobody in. Tell me. Everybody 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.839 was like, no, no, you'll figure it out type shit, 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.239 you know what I'm saying, But didn't have enough to 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:15.920 be like I'm gonna put you on right right right, 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.479 but they just push you over there trying to help. Yeah, 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.799 And wasn't nobody trying to do that, especially back then, 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:22.799 like that was out, you know what I'm saying. Then 0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:26.960 I feel like it was definitely out. Yeah, so yeah, 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.719 it was. It was just yeah, that timing was different too, 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.879 because LA ain't have a sound, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.840 They ain't had no sound. Everything was out of town, 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.600 you know what I'm saying. And then yeah, I think 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:42.160 that YG and that Mustard and no, I think definitely 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.480 I think like that kicked it off for the new LA. 0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.680 I think yeah, it was that that what was that 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:53.920 twenty ten, twenty eleven, twelve, Yeah, really we was on it, 0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:56.799 but really it don't matter what we was on. It 0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.799 just matters what everybody else like when you leave, because 0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.799 it's it seemed like it was like Game was the 0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.359 guy in l A for a point in time where 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.200 it felt like a long time only guy in l 0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:12.360 A nationally. Yeah, and then once that YG Mustard thing happened, 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.520 it was over. But it took out of town niggas 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.280 to be like that, Oh yeah, that's l A. We've 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.359 been listening to that ship, you know what I'm saying 0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.799 for at least four years before that. It took for 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:27.080 them to be like my nigga, My nigga with Rich 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:31.360 Kwan and GZ on there, and it took Giz to 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:33.320 be like, yeah, this this is him R I P 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.919 R I P and then just to set the whole 0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:37.480 ship on fire. And this is what it is. You 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.279 know that era when it was like Tiger was doing 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:43.160 Rack City City. I'm different, bro, I'm different to change 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.799 when he did that with Mustard, yep, it was like 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:49.359 League Stars and Mustard they had the beats that were 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:53.759 like and that era just just set it set the 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.400 tone for And now we have the new LA sound 0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:57.719 where you hear some ship and you'll be like that 0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.359 sounds like some l a ship. But it's like now 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.359 now it's so Mustard Legua Star re rocked, you feel me. 0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:05.759 So anything that was hot back then ain't gonna be 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.600 really like hot right now is just re rocked and remixed. 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.600 And you know what I'm saying, you put the just 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.759 like the Trap ship, you know what I mean. I 0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.200 remember when Lex Luger, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was hot 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.560 and Lex Luger kicked off that sound. And now it's 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:23.360 all and now Mike will Metro booming and they are 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.000 all sons of that early Yeah, it's all re rocked, 0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.799 you feel me? So that's some crazy Ship. Yeah, well, look, 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.799 your album is out. You already got a video out 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:35.080 with the Rouccie and I got two videos out. I 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:38.640 got another play with me Quincy White and Freddy Shout 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:40.480 to Quincy. Quincy's dope. He's been around for a long 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.440 time too. Yeah. Yeah, he was a part of that 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.919 time in two Yeah. What was his old rap name, 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:51.000 Dub Dub Yeah yeah, oh my god, dubh And then 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.359 we got and then I got the one I topped down. 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:58.040 I just put out, uh Cypress, did the be to cypressman? 0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:02.439 I got Cypress? Uh yeah, with Roochie and Freddy on now, 0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:06.839 so you know shot by my boy HDT Movies and 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.000 your store man, shout out your store, Yeah, the level 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.919 Up Store. You know, y'all can follow follow the level 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:15.319 Up Store. Where's that Instagram? Just everyone sitting ella next 0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:18.759 to the service spoon in Inglewood? Okay? Yeah? How is 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.319 it being in Inglewood now that it's quote unquote being 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.399 gentrified a bit with the arenas and shit, I'm really 0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:28.000 like two miles away from it from the arena, so 0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:29.920 they ain't really go up on me like that, you 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:34.160 know what I mean. But it can't hurt the property value, right, yeah, yeah, no, 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:39.239 it's it's smooth though. I like it. Do you think, like, like, 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.000 do you look at that as like a positive thing 0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:44.080 because it's like a good and a bad side to it. Yeah, 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:48.640 I mean, you know, I look at it now and 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:50.160 it's you know, back in the day, it was just 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.960 spray painted everywhere. Shit was raggedy niggas hanging out on 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:56.040 every corner and the street, and now it's just cleaned up. 0:52:56.080 --> 0:53:01.080 Then turned ship into Lax Jason and all that little 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:05.960 ship Westchester you know looking type ship, but it's still inglewood. 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.960 But you know it's like out of town ers, like 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.160 you know, like white people walking down the street like 0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.040 dogs and ship. It's just crazy. It's is different, but 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.320 it's for the good. Like, how long this ship supposed 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.399 to be fucked up and we're supposed to be out 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:21.239 here in the fucked up environment. If y'all got the 0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:22.880 money to fix this up, let's do it. Do the 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.279 Clippers get any brownie points for being there? Like, because 0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:28.800 obviously everyone hates the Clippers and everyone loves the Lakers, 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:32.520 but like, do you like it should be mad at 0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.720 the Lakers because the Lakers ran ran off and left. 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.279 They did they have to Stable Center down town. I 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.120 don't even know where the Clippers supposed to be playing 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.839 at though, I think they're in Inglewood. They not this year, no, no, 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:46.239 no, no no, not this year. No no no no. I think 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.000 I think whether it's two years or next year, they're 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:51.480 gonna be they're supposed to be, yeah, doing the Century 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:55.959 and Prairie. I heard shure. I mean it's crazy because 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:59.759 I never thought like, I didn't get the whole like 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.680 hate in LA until I moved here, and I'm like, yo, people, 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:05.240 really why I even know why they hate the Clippers. 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.359 They don't funk with the Clippers. I'm like dog back, 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:12.080 how good? So I like the Lakers. I'm a Lebron 0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:14.520 hater on court, you feel me. I fuck with him 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.520 off the court, but on court, I'm a Lebron hater 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.680 because I root for the underdog and then they just 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:22.360 be Yeah. So I'm a I'm a Laker hater and 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.080 Lebron hater. I've been a Laker hater for years, but 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:28.000 I'm a Lebron lover, so I had to both sides 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.480 of me. I go for the underdog though, man all y'all, man, 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.560 Lebron Lebron, the Lakers, the Lakers like Lebron my favorite player, 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:36.080 but I'm a Suns fan. So my whole life I 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.680 hated the Lakers. So when he came to the Lakers, 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.560 I had to come to a business decision to like 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.879 put my Laker hate away and say, you know what, 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.200 Lebron's on the Lakers Now. As long as he's on 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.000 the team, I'm gonna just root for him. Damn. I' 0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:50.960 gonna wait to playoff time. I'm gonna go up on 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.240 you. You You got Chris Paul at the the Suns. I'm finish. 0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.920 Start going for the Suns. Hey, we're good number two 0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.120 in the West right now? How is it we you 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.200 were supposed to be al I'm not a Laker fan. 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:03.040 I'm a Lebron fan. But if the Sons and the 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:05.839 Lakers play, I'm working with the Suns. I've been the Sons. 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:07.359 You used to be a Suns fan. Think about how 0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:10.239 shitty the Sons have been so my life long since 0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:12.640 night so my all my like, I mean, no, we 0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:14.719 had that room with National Mari and you know we 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:19.880 was relevant up until about twenty ten. But I've just 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:24.439 I've attached myself to Lebron. Yeah, the last fifteen years 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.680 or whatever. Yeah, so it's like, okay, I love the Suns, 0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:33.360 but we really ain't been ship for man to damn good. 0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:35.480 I just, I just I think he's the underdog in 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.920 the sense that like he's playing on Michael Jordan's shadow. 0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:41.440 So he might not be Kobe's shadow, not Michael Jordan's. 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:45.719 He's past Kobe. What come on, man, what is he 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:50.160 talking about? Nobody could never be good as Kobe Bro? 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:53.560 I think Kobe Jordan bro Let me let me, let 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.239 me tell you why you're wrong. Let me tell you 0:55:55.239 --> 0:56:00.080 what you're wrong. All right, Shack leaves you remember he 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:02.920 went how many more? Check? Wait? One? But let me explain. 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.600 Let me explain. It was two? Now he played he 0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:09.720 won one more? Butt me? No, no, how many Kobe win? Wait? 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:15.560 Wait okay, Shack left Kobe for two years, couldn't get 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.600 the Lakers were the eight seed. So the two years 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:22.680 after Shaq went to Miami, the Lakers were the eight seed. Okay, 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:25.720 this is when he quote unquote had no help. Okay, 0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:30.120 he never had wait what you mean, what O'Neil? No, 0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.000 I'm saying he okay, after Wight never had help. Al 0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.240 Gasol and Andrew Biden was an All Star center Andrew 0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:39.239 Man of the Year. Just say, Andrew, can we check 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.719 out them? Andrew? Andrew Biden was a bum when he left. 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:43.520 He was a bum when he was there, wing Like, 0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:45.440 can you're telling me he wasn't a starter? He was 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:49.600 a seven five fucking center with that being seven five 0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:53.680 and four hundred pounds those two years. Yeah, that Kobe 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.600 had literally nobody right. He couldn't even get the Lakers 0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.319 out of the first round of the playoffs. Now, rewind 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:04.840 On in five had Eric snow was his starting point 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:08.520 guy Jianyelle Marshall was the starting small forward and he 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:12.560 was like fifty and he took them to the finals 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:18.439 against the Spurs with no help. Koffee. Yeah, they didn't 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.800 go to no championship. Bro. They played the Spurs and 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.440 the Spurs waxed them. But they beat the Pistons in 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.360 the Eastern Conference finals. In the year before that, the 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:30.360 Pistons won the Ring. So my thing is and with 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.880 no way he beat the He beat the defending champions 0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:37.600 in the Eastern Conference finals. No, they beat the Lake. 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:40.680 The Pistons beat the Lakers in the finals the year before, 0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:44.080 but they had a different team, Bro, No, they did it. 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:47.760 It was the same starting five, Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton. No, 0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:51.200 the Pistons beat the Lakers when they had Gary Payton, 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:56.480 Karl Malone. Yes, listen, I'm a basketball fanatic. So with 0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:59.160 that being said, when Lebron has had no help in 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:03.120 his career, he's always been in the motherfucking mix, I 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:06.840 mean championships. He won though, listen, hen he gonna be 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.520 fine because he was all the built teams, so he 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.080 was good. Bro. He went against the Warriors, the greatest 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:18.000 team ever assembled. He had a simple team to hold on. 0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:20.680 Let's let's get to the Warriors. Because the Warriors, he's 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:25.160 just all genuine good players. They wasn't put together. Kevin Durant. 0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:28.880 Kevin Durant had one time he played for them one time. 0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:32.200 He played for them for three years for three seasons, 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.680 but he played twice when they won. He played three 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.960 years with them, though he ruined the NBA for three years. 0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:42.880 He ruined the NBA. KD damn. Now that's what put 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:45.320 together team they got in Brooklyn right now, that ship's 0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:48.040 crazy super salary. If they don't win the fucking ring, 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.880 you feel me like, God, damn, how where they getting 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:54.640 this money from? Bruh. It's crazy. They just got the 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:58.240 Mark LaMarcus Griffin, Like, how did they do that? Where 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.360 they getting this money from? Because he got aught out 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.520 and they signed for the veteran minimum. He played for 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.360 free pretty much the same thing were playing. He got 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:09.040 paid it. They paid him out. I don't know, but yeah, 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.840 get on that team, like, let me play. I got 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:14.560 to fuck with Kobe, but he ain't fucking with Lebron. 0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:17.200 Come on, man. That's the one thing I think that 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:20.160 we were we were unfortunately never privileged to see was 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:24.560 the Kobe Lebron finals. Yeah yeah, but see it's the 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:26.960 age difference though now. But you know, if you think 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.640 about those years, it was the year it should have happened. 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.520 Was the year the Magic beat the Cavaliers in the 0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:34.920 Eastern Conference finals, and that was the year that Kobe 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:37.880 played Dwight Howard in the finals and the Lakers won. 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:40.440 That was the year it should have been Lebron versus Kobe. 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:44.360 The other year it was eight and that was when 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:47.680 the Celtics had the Big three that they assembled when 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:52.120 they got KG. That team took the Cavaliers out because 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.920 Lebron had no help. But that's the one thing I 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.320 wish we would have saw was Kobe versus Lebron in 0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:00.840 the finals. We never got that because if you think 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:04.040 about like Jordans, we saw all of the Jordan battles 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:06.200 we wanted to see going up Like he went against 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:08.560 Magic in ninety one. Yeah, he went up against the 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:10.919 Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals three years in a row. 1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:13.000 He went up against the Celtics. He went up against 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:15.280 all these dudes like he had battles with you, Like 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:17.360 he went up against Barkley in ninety three. Yeah, you 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:18.680 know what I'm saying that was That was when I 1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.560 was a fucking Sons fan. Oh yeah, I didn't even 1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:23.920 go up but he went up against Barkley. But he 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:25.920 didn't win that game. You know who won that game? 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:29.480 John Paxson. On fucking Paxson. I hate that motherfucker. Right there, 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.520 I'm saying I had the whole I was like Kevin Johnson, 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:36.760 fakyj kJ, duntan kJ. Look at my poster right there, 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:40.960 look back there. One oh one was like one of 1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:44.360 the I had the crackhead on y'all team. Richard Dumas. Yeah, 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.800 feel me, that was my year though, Rightchard Dumas was 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:51.400 smoking rocks as a rookie balling those is starting. Oh, 1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:54.680 my starter on crack, real crack. My man was a 1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:58.400 rookie smoking crack. He was real though. He was out 1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:01.640 there serving. They had a team, bro, they had Hey, 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:04.040 they had a team. I have never been to Phoenix before, 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:05.640 but I was. I don't even know how I even 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.960 became a Phoenix son. And we had Dan Marley and Marley, 1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:15.360 Danny Ain, Oliver Manning, Danny Man, Danny Manning. Oh, they 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.640 had a squad with Barkley. I don't know who the 1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:20.640 big man was. We had a Mark West, Oliver Miller, 1:01:21.040 --> 1:01:26.120 Uh yeah, Oliver Miller, Nick hold On who was shooting 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:29.720 them threes? Dann Marley was was was lights out? It 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:35.360 was Rex Chapman. Yeah. They had Rex Chapman though too. 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:39.000 They had a squad. Yeah, look man, thank you for 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:41.080 pulling up. Look at the album. Check out the store 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.760 Mastermind out now you feel me Boom