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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I think I've met you originally in about
Speaker 1: twenty ten when I was doing Radyo in Vegas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we met the day remember Jez had a show at
Speaker 1: the Pearl Freddie opened. Nah. See that was that had
Speaker 1: to be way. That had to be because I met
Speaker 1: you with fred who met me with Fred You met
Speaker 1: me with Freddie when we did the I had to
Speaker 1: be That was twenty twelve going Yeah, that was twenty
Speaker 1: eleven going on twenty twelve, he had a show. We
Speaker 1: went from Vegas Tucson, Vegas. I mean we went to Phoenix, Tucson, Vegas,
Speaker 1: and then back to LA. And then that's what I
Speaker 1: met you in Phoenix. I think you put all three
Speaker 1: four shows together. I put a couple shows together for
Speaker 1: Freddy and Phoenix. But I'm telling you, I met you
Speaker 1: at the Pearl. I'm pretty sure were you at that show.
Speaker 1: I probably was, though, Yeah you think Jeez was doing
Speaker 1: in Vegas or yeah, what I'm saying at the same time,
Speaker 1: I was there, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, for
Speaker 1: people who don't know, man, you you've been a staple
Speaker 1: in LA for a long time. You got your store
Speaker 1: of the level up store, sir, that's booming, and you
Speaker 1: know you've been an artist for how long have you been?
Speaker 1: Like when did you first start releasing music? First start
Speaker 1: releasing music was two thousand and seven, Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight was kind of like I was solidified, like, man,
Speaker 1: that's an artist, right right, right right, and then I
Speaker 1: really learned how to rap. Two thousand and nine, you
Speaker 1: feel twenty ten has just been learning how the game.
Speaker 1: You know, what was your like the first person who
Speaker 1: kind of got behind you and co signed you in
Speaker 1: La Sug Sugar, I'm on death road before I met Jeez,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then the whole shit
Speaker 1: he got getting shot, you know what I'm saying, He
Speaker 1: like disappeared. You know, he had his own shit going on,
Speaker 1: So you know how that go. I remember Gez called
Speaker 1: in like, man, if that shit don't work over there,
Speaker 1: come on through. So you signed? What year did you sign?
Speaker 1: What were you? What year did you meet Sugar and
Speaker 1: start rolling with him at Sugar in two thousand and five?
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Through my homie, my big homie, Peewee rest
Speaker 1: in Peak. So I mean, you know, just like every
Speaker 1: nigga in La everybody rapped, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I was making you know, freestyles in the garage,
Speaker 1: putting them on CDs and giving them to my homies.
Speaker 1: So I was a rapper in my neighborhood. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's a you know coming up. And
Speaker 1: then one day my homie was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I know somebody that I was in the face with
Speaker 1: Shugar Pot and we told him about you. We're gonna whatever.
Speaker 1: So we I'm in Vegas one day and they like
Speaker 1: shug Get, the Strip Club, the Crazy Horse. So we
Speaker 1: pull up with my homies, you know, and I introduced myself.
Speaker 1: He like, yeah, we just took it from there and
Speaker 1: come to l a start recording. I had songs with
Speaker 1: Tupac and kind of ship. I ain't never heard him
Speaker 1: every I walked out the studio, but yeah, he first
Speaker 1: person to put me in a big boy studio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put to my closer to your face. Yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: first one put me in the Big Boys studio. That's
Speaker 1: when Pete Pablo was over there. I remember when Pete
Speaker 1: was under that was a very weird. Yeah situation, but ship,
Speaker 1: you know, it never made sense to me. Nah. Nah,
Speaker 1: he thought he was Tupac or something like Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there was like that era when it was that double
Speaker 1: XL cover with Corrupt Eastwood was crooked eye on that
Speaker 1: cover and the left eye. Yeah I'm talking, I'm talking.
Speaker 1: That was before that was that had to be two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. Yeah, that was way before the first
Speaker 1: got out, right, And so you met him kind of
Speaker 1: like that kind of two thousand and five, so that
Speaker 1: had kind of already fallen apart, and he had had
Speaker 1: I think, I think, really when I started hanging out
Speaker 1: over there, Corrupt was over there. So I kind of
Speaker 1: met Shug when Corrupt was there. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I used to hang with Roscoe and Tone all
Speaker 1: of White. Remember, of course Roscoe Rosco was so fire.
Speaker 1: That was hard on the intro on Streets as a mother, bro,
Speaker 1: come on, That's what made me want to cor And
Speaker 1: when I who's that song called? When I called shots
Speaker 1: out here? I know that full words. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: for bar that was the that was one of the
Speaker 1: most left on albums ever. Corrupt Streets is a mother
Speaker 1: and that fucking Roscoe verse. He set the whole It
Speaker 1: was track one. He set the whole tone for the
Speaker 1: rest of the project. I remember thinking, like, Yo, Rosco's next,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't. It was my age though, I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn that food my age. When I first met, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we the same age. He caught that, Like yo, he
Speaker 1: caught that smooth sailing record. I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. But then he was on Girls.
Speaker 1: He was on Girls all Paul, So you were hanging
Speaker 1: out with the YA dudes hanging out with YA. But
Speaker 1: I wasn't rapping though, so they kind of gave me
Speaker 1: the motivation of ship. Man, I'm hanging with these and
Speaker 1: these every day. They could do it, I could do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I always was in
Speaker 1: the cut trying to write or trying to put it together,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, well so when
Speaker 1: I guess when that kind of fell apart of everything
Speaker 1: over there, you know, this dismantled. It came about like
Speaker 1: two more years later and then I just fell in.
Speaker 1: But I never really like introduced the one on one
Speaker 1: with Sugar, like I'm you know what I'm saying, whoo whoop,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. But about two thousand
Speaker 1: and five came around and I introduced myself and we
Speaker 1: had our one on one and then he started come
Speaker 1: telling me to come to the studio. How do you think, like,
Speaker 1: how would you describe Sugar as a person based on
Speaker 1: your relationship with nothing as as everybody think he is,
Speaker 1: He's just a big old cool nigga. To me, one
Speaker 1: of the coolest niggas I ever met, Because we hear
Speaker 1: all this crazy shit and then you hear people who
Speaker 1: like really know they're like, man, Sugar is one of
Speaker 1: the realists, Like one of the realist, coolest niggas one
Speaker 1: of the I mean the stories he'll tell you. You You
Speaker 1: feel me to even sit sit in the circle and
Speaker 1: listen to these stories he'll tell you, and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so after after watching, after knowing him, and then watching
Speaker 1: all these fucking weird ass ships that they got on
Speaker 1: TV about Tupac and Biggie and Shug this and Sugar that,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, damn, that's they just got the whole
Speaker 1: ship on top of sug. It's just like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: all this they drag his name through the mud like that.
Speaker 1: You know. I feel like in that situation, with the
Speaker 1: Tupac Biggie situation, obviously both of them dying, there had
Speaker 1: to be you gotta you gotta figure out who the
Speaker 1: bast is in the public made Sugar the bad guy
Speaker 1: and that yeah, because because there was nobody there. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: both both murders are still the angel exactly made Puffy
Speaker 1: an angel. But now it's coming out like he was
Speaker 1: really on the same type of shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like some of this ship, man, it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: nigga twenty five years later, like you was on the
Speaker 1: same type of ship. You got crips with you. I
Speaker 1: just found that out, Like you had to come to
Speaker 1: crips with you, bro, like you knew what you was doing,
Speaker 1: Like come on man, yeah, some of the uh stuff
Speaker 1: that Like I remember there was an LA Times article
Speaker 1: that came out about Puffy maybe like eight nine years ago,
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, yeah, you're talking again. We
Speaker 1: don't again. We don't know. I mean, at least I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah. I mean there's people who think they
Speaker 1: know exactly what happened on each side, right, But it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I mean, Sugar like the bad guy. Sugar
Speaker 1: was paying as the bad guy, and it made it
Speaker 1: seem like niggas was bullying Puffy and Biggie and ship
Speaker 1: like that. But I mean, it's just like it's the
Speaker 1: same shit going on now. It's just like like an
Speaker 1: out of town nigga come out here and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, get with some get with a nigga
Speaker 1: like me or somebody or another homie and get the
Speaker 1: gang banging. But it's just on a different platform because
Speaker 1: you're this big ass rap star, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's it's like, I mean, it's like the culture
Speaker 1: is the LA culture. I've been everywhere. Everybody want to
Speaker 1: be an l A nigga. Everybody loved this culture. Crips,
Speaker 1: bloods man, the crypt Walk and all this shit is
Speaker 1: just uh, it's just I don't I can't even explain it.
Speaker 1: But we influenced the rest of the America, the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, you feel me. Really, it's just something
Speaker 1: about l A culture, you know that the gang ship
Speaker 1: and the way we stand. I was we was at
Speaker 1: the restaurant yesterday and the Homy from Chicago like you
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta put my feet like this and
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, what's up. I'm like, that's that's just
Speaker 1: it's it's funny, but it's crazy that this is how
Speaker 1: the rest of the people think of us, you know,
Speaker 1: but they like it though. You know what I'm saying. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I was talking to Big U and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, before he went to prison, I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, before you went to prison, Like like
Speaker 1: he was in prison when the peak of gang banging
Speaker 1: became like commercial. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you remember back in the day, there was like a
Speaker 1: Cryps Versus Bloods album and like that's my one of
Speaker 1: my favorite albums Banging on Wax Bang Won two, and
Speaker 1: then it went from Donald Riders to Nationwide Riders. Right, So,
Speaker 1: like there was that that point in time when the
Speaker 1: gang ship became so cool in the nineties colors came
Speaker 1: out or like I think that was late eighties early nineties,
Speaker 1: but like it became just like a worldwide thing. And
Speaker 1: that's I think, like you said, like just La influencing
Speaker 1: the world as far as like there's crips and sets
Speaker 1: and bloods. Brother the kid on Empire, Dusty Lokine is
Speaker 1: talking neighborhood cripshit and he's from Brooklyn. It's insane, but
Speaker 1: it's just like how to I I just like I
Speaker 1: tell everybody else to define why niggas gang bang everywhere else.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is listen to Summer Vacation from
Speaker 1: ice Cube. All these is not even gang niggas, ain't
Speaker 1: niggas out of town, ain't gang banging. They is just
Speaker 1: from a gang. So they're just gang members. They're not
Speaker 1: this is not their culture. There's just something for them
Speaker 1: to do. What's the different, Like give me because people
Speaker 1: for people who are watching the drug gangs, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, give me that. So when you say
Speaker 1: gang banging, what is that like? With gang banging, it's
Speaker 1: like we're gonna we're gonna wake up today, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go put in some work on. Feel me like, if
Speaker 1: you're a blood, you're gonna go shoot some crips, or
Speaker 1: you're gonna go beat up some crips, or you're riding
Speaker 1: around to go find these people, you know, vice versa.
Speaker 1: And then I feel like I feel like I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say all the out of town people, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people from out of town that's not like
Speaker 1: you'll be from sixties, but you've never been on sixtieth Street,
Speaker 1: y'a don't have a sixtieth Street in your neighborhood. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Niggas is saying they from POWERU
Speaker 1: like you ain't like you feel me, y'all woke up
Speaker 1: in fucking Kansas somewhere, you know what I'm saying. So, y'all,
Speaker 1: just like ice cubes say niggas dying and banging over
Speaker 1: the streets that they ain't never heard of you feel me,
Speaker 1: or been to or so it's like they waking up
Speaker 1: and they just claiming the gang and claiming the shit.
Speaker 1: But it's like the good, the good parts have come
Speaker 1: with it, but like you ain't really not really here
Speaker 1: for that part, for the not taking this bad port.
Speaker 1: But don't get it wrong, Like I've been in the
Speaker 1: places where niggas is really gang banging, but got their
Speaker 1: own gangs and their own neighborhoods. Prime example, fucking making
Speaker 1: Georgia them nigga's out there, like nineteen ninety four. Out there,
Speaker 1: mothers got their own gang, their own section, their own name,
Speaker 1: they and they doing it how we do it out here.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just different. So I can't say everybody,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the majority is just it's just different,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I do think that,
Speaker 1: like because because people will not understand what it means
Speaker 1: to get banged on. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like DJ
Speaker 1: had had to educate me when I moved out here
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, look like you know you like
Speaker 1: he had, I know, you're like dude, he gave me
Speaker 1: the whole hot rundown. He was like, look, t hat on?
Speaker 1: What does this hat mean? It means you mean gangster crib.
Speaker 1: Basically it's crazy. I mean when it's blue. So I
Speaker 1: literally I got this hat with trade that could be
Speaker 1: in trouble. Me and Freddie were in we were in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: and I bought this hat. But we in LA Now
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So it's crazy to get rough. Bro.
Speaker 1: Bro Head had to give me the whole breakdown. He's like, look, Bro,
Speaker 1: you can't wear Yankees hats unless you're in the valley.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like Astro hats out. He's like, he
Speaker 1: gave me the whole ship, and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I was telling him. I was telling less, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta lead him Houston hat. Leave it. People think
Speaker 1: you're a fucking Hoover. Yeah, we don't care if you're
Speaker 1: an Astro fan or not. You gotta lead that ship
Speaker 1: somewhere else, bro, because we're gonna spin off and Nigga
Speaker 1: gonna get on you where you from. Check it out?
Speaker 1: All that is like, Bro, check it out. It hit
Speaker 1: you that Bro, you better just get out the way
Speaker 1: or you feel me it's for to get bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's wild because like I was like, bro, look I'm
Speaker 1: from Arizona. What about a Diamondbacks hat. He's like, I
Speaker 1: think you're good with that he's like that, And just
Speaker 1: a plain black might wake up in a bad mood
Speaker 1: and you could have a fucking you got the A
Speaker 1: hat on, he could have a that shit don't even
Speaker 1: mean nothing. The nigga might just be like me, what
Speaker 1: that A stand for? Like just because he in a
Speaker 1: bad mood? Like, bro, be like mast so what fuck
Speaker 1: all that? You feel me? Take that ship off, and
Speaker 1: the motherfucker'd be really in you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: On a bad day, had told me he was like, look,
Speaker 1: if anyone ever tries to bang on you just start
Speaker 1: acting super pissed off, like you just got into a
Speaker 1: fight with your girl. The man just left me here,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting from my uber. I'm gonna kill this head,
Speaker 1: gonna get you fucked up. He's about to tell the
Speaker 1: motherfucker man, I'm not from here, you feel me. I'm
Speaker 1: not from over here. I'm from I'm from Arizona. Like,
Speaker 1: motherfucker Like all right, all right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And my out of town probably be coming here and
Speaker 1: they be like, man, I can't wear red, I can't
Speaker 1: wear blue. Like bro, all you gotta do is speak
Speaker 1: You sound like you from Florida or something like, Man,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody worried about you? But it's only in these sections,
Speaker 1: like we're in North Hollywood. Bro't I'm not gonna walk
Speaker 1: down the street. Ain't nobody finna say nothing? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you're in a certain areas south
Speaker 1: of fucking Wheelshire or some ship like that, really south
Speaker 1: of when you passed fucking what is that ship like
Speaker 1: Olympic south of the Olympic, makes sure you it's you
Speaker 1: can get banged on. I feel me, you feel me
Speaker 1: at the seven eleven, the gas station, all that burger spots,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where it goes up at the
Speaker 1: mall right, you know what I mean? So being around sugar,
Speaker 1: what's like there? What's your craziest sugar Night's story? Man
Speaker 1: that you that that you were around because that was
Speaker 1: an interesting like time of sugs because when did when
Speaker 1: did he get into get into it with the barber dude?
Speaker 1: Remember there was the barber that that punched, Oh yeah
Speaker 1: with Greg. I went to school with that nigga. I
Speaker 1: know him too. Yeah that was that was like that
Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah big when yeah, people were still wearing
Speaker 1: big clothes. I remember that people were still wearing big clothes.
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, I was in Atlanta when that happened,
Speaker 1: and yeah, so I wasn't around for that. It was
Speaker 1: the crazy shit you're around with Shulgar Man. I can't
Speaker 1: even really put my put my finger on it. It's
Speaker 1: just we balled out, really like every time I'm with him,
Speaker 1: we balling out. I remember, Okay, I remember one time though,
Speaker 1: with really, like when I first started working with him.
Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm in Lake Tahoe. I'm on a little
Speaker 1: vacation and ship. So he called me out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: It's when the chirps was out here, like yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm like, man, I'm chilling, Like he
Speaker 1: comes to the studio right now. But I got these
Speaker 1: girls with me though, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no. Before that, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: feel like you try to play me on the speakerphone
Speaker 1: in front of these bitches. You feel me? So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, hommy, you feel me? Nigga? I ain't
Speaker 1: a I'm thinking it's the Snoop Dogg in the back
Speaker 1: of the day ship. How I'm like, bro, this this
Speaker 1: ain't that nigga. Power Nigga. He like, man, chill out
Speaker 1: bro comes to the studio, Nigga gonna pay for everything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yea, all right, but I was low key
Speaker 1: embarrassed because he like Nigga dropped everything, comes to the
Speaker 1: studio right now and heard it. That's all I heard
Speaker 1: was or else, But he ain't say that though, that's
Speaker 1: what you heard? What I heard like that or else?
Speaker 1: Like hold over, you think you talking to you feel me?
Speaker 1: But so I'm like, all right, I'm coach studio nick
Speaker 1: Now I went, I remember I drove the Reno. They
Speaker 1: dropped me off to Reno. I'll put my whole vacation
Speaker 1: on pause, fly out here just to record like folk songs,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he cashed me out
Speaker 1: like here go on thousand. My ticket was on like
Speaker 1: two fifty round trip or something like that. Put me
Speaker 1: in the hotel and all I'm like, all in, you
Speaker 1: feel me? He had the suitcase, the briefcase, opened the
Speaker 1: briefcase up and he had all this money in the briefcase.
Speaker 1: I said, this nigga really rich rich Huh. He was
Speaker 1: just moving he was still moving around like shugar. He
Speaker 1: was moving around like Sugar, and he thought he was
Speaker 1: broken all that. Like, man, he had a new Porsche,
Speaker 1: the new the newest cars out, living in Century City
Speaker 1: Plaza whatever that you're called over there and living he
Speaker 1: lived there at the top of the penthouse. You know,
Speaker 1: I think there was like a obviously the public perception
Speaker 1: of Sugars. He was like this huge blood that was
Speaker 1: like ran in La and well look when we walked
Speaker 1: through so so everybody hate on him. But when we
Speaker 1: walked through the Palms or we be in Vegas, it'd
Speaker 1: be it'd be like hell of white people like, oh
Speaker 1: can I get a picture? We love you? And Italians
Speaker 1: like I'll be like, damn, they like you get love.
Speaker 1: But motherfucker walk off and be like, fuck Sugar. He
Speaker 1: he killed Tupac and he did this and he did that,
Speaker 1: and he's a murderer and all this, a woman beater
Speaker 1: and all that. I'm like, this nigga's like the coolest
Speaker 1: nigga in the world, right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's crazy the game and all that too. So from
Speaker 1: the death throw situation, is how you ended up working
Speaker 1: with Jez after that? Yeah? So yeah, So I was
Speaker 1: already hanging out in Atlanta, and shit, and you know,
Speaker 1: hanging with I had a friend that was I worked
Speaker 1: with Jez, so they introduced me and all that. So
Speaker 1: at the time, I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm fucking
Speaker 1: we should trying to do my rap shit and all that.
Speaker 1: I go hang with them, and he just told me,
Speaker 1: you know, when if that don't work out, you know,
Speaker 1: you got a home over here, like all right, so
Speaker 1: when it didn't work out, I'll start hanging out over
Speaker 1: there with them, going to the promo tours and then
Speaker 1: and it just turned into it took me like a
Speaker 1: year to get signed over there for TT Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think like that was like a cool
Speaker 1: I think that was a cool moment because at the time,
Speaker 1: obviously Jesz was putting out hell of mixtapes. And then
Speaker 1: I feel like it was kind of like CT second
Speaker 1: run kind of this was the first run, but no, no,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like tw twenty eleven was
Speaker 1: kind of like, nah, I got signed over there in
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Oh shit, yeah, so this was
Speaker 1: this is the first run. That's the first run. That's
Speaker 1: the first one signed the CT depth jam. So I
Speaker 1: was on the label deal. Oh so yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know why I thought you were you signed over there
Speaker 1: like early. No, I was there before. I was there
Speaker 1: before Freddy. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: was like one of the first artists over there. It
Speaker 1: was slick, pulling and blood right, and then they put
Speaker 1: out the Then Rocket came. Okay, yeah, I been Rocket
Speaker 1: and then already had a relationship. But then me and
Speaker 1: Rocket got like this because from out here, So it
Speaker 1: was just a look, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, I just start putting out music. And then
Speaker 1: I think Freddy got there in twenty ten, but already
Speaker 1: knew Freddy from out here. Jay Rock introduced me to
Speaker 1: Freddy the first night we met. We did a song
Speaker 1: after the club one night, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we've just been cool ever since. Yeah, it's crazy
Speaker 1: because didn't did you leave? You left CTE after fred right,
Speaker 1: that was before so Freddy got there and what was
Speaker 1: that the beginning of twenty ten? I left him? Know
Speaker 1: he got there beginning of two thousand and let yeah, shit,
Speaker 1: and I left like in the public. I left in
Speaker 1: like twelve, but I was already gone from a little
Speaker 1: money situation, like the end of twenty eleven. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, it's crazy because obviously you and
Speaker 1: Fred have kept a relationship for so long despite a
Speaker 1: situation like that. Might you know, people kind of choose up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. No, they chose up on me.
Speaker 1: And that's the only reason why I fucked with Freddie's
Speaker 1: so tough because he was the only nigga that stayed
Speaker 1: down with me, like in my even when I met
Speaker 1: you that time. Only reason I went on that tour
Speaker 1: because I had he knew that I was leaving the
Speaker 1: CT situation. They fucked me over like four hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, fuck these niggas. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I a't have a big enough microphone to go and
Speaker 1: just be dissing because it's gonna make me look better.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm gonna just do what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do, you know what I'm saying. And everybody like
Speaker 1: bailed on me, and I had so much slander. I
Speaker 1: was going through much, so much shit at the time.
Speaker 1: You know that everybody bailed on me. He was the
Speaker 1: only one that was like bro still he like That's
Speaker 1: how I came to Arizona. He's like, Bro, you got
Speaker 1: to get out of LA. It's fucked. You got a
Speaker 1: lot of shit going on right now, Come on tour
Speaker 1: with me. Now I remember that. I'm like, bro, bring
Speaker 1: my gun and all that shit. You're like, nah, I
Speaker 1: ain't telling you don't bring it, but right right, you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna need it, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: nigga for a rap concert, like you feel me, ain't
Speaker 1: gonna need no pistol or nothing, no protection, like nah,
Speaker 1: it's not like that. Yeah, it's crazy because I know
Speaker 1: Fred's side of what happened at ah at CTE, and
Speaker 1: it seems as if a lot of the people, almost
Speaker 1: everyone who was around j Z early on, it's not
Speaker 1: there anymore. Nobody fucks with that nigga and no, and
Speaker 1: nobody's got anything good to say about And I met
Speaker 1: Jeez a bunch, but you know, even like a shout
Speaker 1: out to Carbon fifteen fifteen, you know that's that was
Speaker 1: my guy who was you know, anytime I needed anything
Speaker 1: Jez related, I would hit fifteen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And obviously we still be business. Real dude, man, he's
Speaker 1: still I still talk a body over there, Damn. Like
Speaker 1: Pulla just got out. I spoke to him briefly, but
Speaker 1: like me, Freddy, I talked to Kink all the time.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, you were around Gez
Speaker 1: a lot longer than fred so you know you were
Speaker 1: around that that whole situation. He was like, man, why
Speaker 1: I ain't tell me? I'm like, bro, what I look like?
Speaker 1: I can't tell I didn't bring you in a situation.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, you feel me. This ain't it, bro,
Speaker 1: this ain't gonna happen. You knew it wasn't it pretty soon,
Speaker 1: pretty quick? Or I knew it wasn't it when he
Speaker 1: when they appeared on the bus and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: you're doing here? Bro? He like, man, fin the sign
Speaker 1: over here and I'm like, oh, we're going to see
Speaker 1: our double a and they like you know him. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just a homie. What you mean? Like he's
Speaker 1: from Gary. I'm like this nigga live in l A, Bro,
Speaker 1: Like we got songs together and everything, okay. Cool. I
Speaker 1: was never mad at Freddie. I'm looking at JIZI like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you bring a new artists in and you can't even
Speaker 1: you can't even work the artists you've had on the
Speaker 1: label for that. Niggas in debt and some most shit,
Speaker 1: we don't have no music, Like what's going on, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And so I ain't gonna I think.
Speaker 1: I think one day he was just like the way
Speaker 1: I left was he caught this big old meeting and
Speaker 1: the nigga was like, yeah, I'm not giving no money out,
Speaker 1: which was giving no money out in the first place,
Speaker 1: and he like, uh, you know, niggas gotta gotta go
Speaker 1: out and use the name and the label to get money.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's what I did, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And I went and got a four hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars deal for some music, half the music that
Speaker 1: was already out and half was unreleased music. And the
Speaker 1: nigga sent me assistant decease. I was with SMC, So
Speaker 1: he told you. Nigga told me to go do this,
Speaker 1: and then do it. He hit you with the season,
Speaker 1: the whole ship up, and I'm getting your artists money.
Speaker 1: I could have just pocketed all of this ship myself
Speaker 1: and been like fuck y'all, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And from that point on, I'm like, bro, they had
Speaker 1: me fool like this family first, and it's some family ship.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, based on your you were
Speaker 1: around g Z, I guess probably when he was transitioning
Speaker 1: out of being known it is like a really hardcore
Speaker 1: gangster rapper into him kind of becoming more of a
Speaker 1: staple in him. I was there for so I met
Speaker 1: him today the day Motivation went gold in Vegas. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then I was with
Speaker 1: them damn near all time great album. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna knock that. Yeah, that was a great album all
Speaker 1: the way up until what the one O three? Like that? Yes,
Speaker 1: Because I was gonna say, like, I think that people
Speaker 1: from the outside look at him will be like, look,
Speaker 1: well Geez obviously has grown into who he is today, right,
Speaker 1: and you could say whatever you want to say. I
Speaker 1: just saw the interview with his old partner that was
Speaker 1: on the Yeah, and where he was like, look that
Speaker 1: versus scratched any any street credit he could ever have
Speaker 1: out mystery. Yeah. I don't know what he was thinking
Speaker 1: with that, but I know he was thinking, it's a look,
Speaker 1: nigga do anything for a look. You know, he's hosting
Speaker 1: the fucking Talk Like I think Jzu's an obviousty right now,
Speaker 1: he reaching he thirsty. He don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't fucking with him. He ain't got no real
Speaker 1: niggas with him. Were you around when the Gucci beef
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty serious? It was always serious, but no
Speaker 1: should I don't know. I actually ran into Gucci one time.
Speaker 1: I ran into I ran into all of them on
Speaker 1: my own time, you know, out here, like what's happening?
Speaker 1: Woker too, and me and Whacka were cool, like that's
Speaker 1: the hummy, right, ran into Waka. We chopped it up.
Speaker 1: Twenty ten months later, I run into Gucci in my studio.
Speaker 1: Remember that, Yeah, me and Gucci chopped it up. He
Speaker 1: was so cool. I'm like, damn, bro, why I don't
Speaker 1: like this nigga? You feel me? Gucci was cool as fuck?
Speaker 1: And and yes, but then I've been in clubs and
Speaker 1: we was all together and ain't nothing happened, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was confused. But that's what
Speaker 1: Fred was telling me. Be like, man, like, I'm the
Speaker 1: like friends of the type of motherfucker. We got problems.
Speaker 1: We in the same play. Something's gonna happen. Oh, That's
Speaker 1: what I was confused. We'd be in Central Station and
Speaker 1: them niggas be right over there and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well let's get it. Wasn't there. There was a when
Speaker 1: the NMG bef got kind of I was gone, you're
Speaker 1: already gone on, Yeah, I was there. I was. I
Speaker 1: think all that ship was over a bitch. That's what
Speaker 1: I heard, honestly, really, because I was there all that
Speaker 1: ship around. When did the BMF come out? The song
Speaker 1: that was all that that time when that ship came out,
Speaker 1: and it was basically it seemed like it was over
Speaker 1: a bitch and that and that song you feel mean,
Speaker 1: Nigga was mad. I don't know if he felt like
Speaker 1: he should have made that song to get that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Butig who cares? So it was
Speaker 1: just a whole bunch of weird shit going on. But
Speaker 1: I was cool with Ross. Ross gave me a verse
Speaker 1: all kind of ship like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then I left in the midst of all that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and they had to figure
Speaker 1: that shit out. Damn. Did you notice like a change
Speaker 1: with Jez's energy just like over time, like because if
Speaker 1: you were around in seven, I feel like that was
Speaker 1: kind of GEZ probably still moving a certain way with
Speaker 1: a certain type of people around him, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of people
Speaker 1: was just he ended up getting that deaf jam situation,
Speaker 1: which was was that that was later right, Uh, he
Speaker 1: was already he was always on death gym. No, I
Speaker 1: mean I mean the Atlantic, Yeah, he was. I was
Speaker 1: gone by the end. Yeah. So yeah, it's just like
Speaker 1: you'll hear some people who around GZ like super early
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, yeah, sh it was like real
Speaker 1: out like it was some real ship going on. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I mean it was active. It was
Speaker 1: some active shit going on. We didn't got into some
Speaker 1: ship before and it was real activity. I can't knock that.
Speaker 1: But just on some low tea and business ship it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't solid, which explains why nobody fucks with him
Speaker 1: no more. And it's just like and then look and
Speaker 1: like I think, like again, like I'm a fan of Jiz.
Speaker 1: I've been around him. He's a nice guy. I never
Speaker 1: I don't have any personal issues with him. But just
Speaker 1: like from a fan's perspective, you'll look at like CT
Speaker 1: and you'll be like, dang, no one ever came out
Speaker 1: of CT and you can say, y G, he had
Speaker 1: he had guys, but you can say y G. But
Speaker 1: why G was already on death jam and they kind
Speaker 1: of just threw the CT you through it and then yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of got in his ear
Speaker 1: about that ship. But I left in the midst of that,
Speaker 1: like the whole YG going on. I told I told GZ,
Speaker 1: I said, man, it's the guy. He's finna be the
Speaker 1: next nigga. Up. Well, we were in colony. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I told just incredible. We unplugged drama computer and
Speaker 1: plugged just incredible. Up. We're telling drama play off YG ship, Like,
Speaker 1: who is that? I'm like, what nigga unplugged this ship? Bro?
Speaker 1: Pluging just incredible ship? Up? Man, play that YG ship.
Speaker 1: I'm texting my boy to text him, tell him what
Speaker 1: songs to play. I'm telling him in GZ ear it's
Speaker 1: my birthday too, so I'm drunk, you feeling washed. I'm
Speaker 1: telling watch how this club turn around. He played one
Speaker 1: joint boom, play another joint boom though the crowd the
Speaker 1: club just turn up from there. I'm like, Bro, it's
Speaker 1: the nigga young homie woo whoop. He got like a
Speaker 1: situation at death Jam. I don't think they know what
Speaker 1: to do with it. You need to pull these strings,
Speaker 1: bring them over here. He's like, yeah, well this ship
Speaker 1: ain't got finnah, get up my chain. We finna come
Speaker 1: over here. And da da da da no, no, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, feel me dah da dah. But
Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling this nigga like he's the guy. Bro.
Speaker 1: This is because we had in the condo in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Every morning, I'm waking up playing yg Nipson. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the shit that I that we listened
Speaker 1: to out here, and they like, man, you're playing that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you mean? This is the ship that
Speaker 1: were playing in LA. This is what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and I leave thirty days after that. We fall
Speaker 1: out thirty sixty days after that, and then I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember some mixtapes coming out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And then we I hear them on songs and taking pictures.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here it ran, it's happening. It's cool.
Speaker 1: Though I never was like mad about it or nothing
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. And it just
Speaker 1: turned into what it turned into what did you think
Speaker 1: when you saw the versus thing? Did you like? Like?
Speaker 1: What are you? What are your thoughts on it? Clay
Speaker 1: this else? You think? So played itself every step of
Speaker 1: the way, like what you sell no records like that.
Speaker 1: Don't nobody even know you had an album come out,
Speaker 1: and you did all this just to ship on the people.
Speaker 1: I was sliding with you, like you know, Mactown niggas. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it looks like I mean the guy that died,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then Gucci showed his ass.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think when Gucci started getting disrespectful, man,
Speaker 1: Gucci been disrespectful. No, no, but I'm saying like I
Speaker 1: knew Gucci was gonna be disrespectful. Yes, Gucci was on Instagram.
Speaker 1: He came out swinging with the whole original new song. No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't new. I thought that first song was a
Speaker 1: new song. That song was this is Gucci man. First geez,
Speaker 1: that ship was out. When State Trapped came out, we
Speaker 1: was watching these videos. We was watching this feud from
Speaker 1: out here. I didn't know them when this happened, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And then I kind of fell
Speaker 1: over there like, and it was already going on. Really,
Speaker 1: Gucci was in jail when I got signed over there.
Speaker 1: So so let me I you this because I think
Speaker 1: like the other side of the coin is like, well,
Speaker 1: Jez's showing people that you know, you can grow all
Speaker 1: that you can growing because the homie, rest and peace
Speaker 1: can't grow. You feel me, you're doing all this for what? Now?
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't try to shoo on this nigga
Speaker 1: your whole career and his whole career. What's the use
Speaker 1: of y'all patching up? Like? I feel you? You know
Speaker 1: that's cool, But like, come on, man, you let me
Speaker 1: ask you. Don't you think if you're in jezus all
Speaker 1: that ship was for? Look, no, I feel your work.
Speaker 1: He thought it was going to work because originally it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Jez versus T. I yeah, but
Speaker 1: he man, of course you got this. That's why we're
Speaker 1: talking about it now. He did that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think he think of like where Jeez probably is
Speaker 1: in life. He's got kids, in college, he just got married.
Speaker 1: He's definitely all the way out of that side of that,
Speaker 1: you know, so we don't even know if who he
Speaker 1: is then because this whole time we've been doing this, person,
Speaker 1: you feel me. Yeah, I think when someone loses their
Speaker 1: life because of the situation is when you didn't even
Speaker 1: it couldn't even. I'm not saying you had to go
Speaker 1: do nothing, but you didn't have to do this right,
Speaker 1: Like it's Gucci already on top. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: do you think if somebody sees what happened with Jizi
Speaker 1: and Gucci and they in their personal situations with somebody
Speaker 1: in this Because I think that that's something that's so
Speaker 1: hard about stopping some of this violence, right Because how
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me to not do this to somebody
Speaker 1: when my cousin's dead over this shit or you know,
Speaker 1: my partner or whoever, and it's been so long, like
Speaker 1: you just brought more ship out of the closet that
Speaker 1: was already kind of like you know, it was calmed down.
Speaker 1: But do you think yeah? I mean, I mean, do
Speaker 1: you but do you think that there's some good that
Speaker 1: could have came out of that, whether it was maybe
Speaker 1: influencing somebody who watched the verses? Do you mean I
Speaker 1: feel like it was some good that they did the
Speaker 1: song at the end, and you know, it's cool. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody get shot or fired or nothing like that. You
Speaker 1: kind of showed a little, but deep down, the only
Speaker 1: reason we know these people is because of these situations
Speaker 1: and the people that you claim to be, that you've
Speaker 1: been telling us that you are and who we fell
Speaker 1: in love with. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think Jesz's been that guy for
Speaker 1: a long time though, as far as just like the
Speaker 1: persona he even the persona he gives out to everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but we give it the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: to be like, you steal the guy from Doug motivation
Speaker 1: and all these other inspirations, and you know you're still
Speaker 1: somewhat of that guy. Now when you go against everything
Speaker 1: that you told us who you are, it's like, now
Speaker 1: we lost all faith in you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: street wise, and this is who you built your shit on.
Speaker 1: This is why Jezu's Jesus, because who you are and
Speaker 1: what you've been doing, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: But I know the people I'll be around and the
Speaker 1: type of people I'll be with. They just not feeling
Speaker 1: that shit yeah, just on the street side, I feel
Speaker 1: like I have to do that, you know, no, I
Speaker 1: think I just think that both. There's like the street
Speaker 1: side of the coin where it's like, yeah, like come on,
Speaker 1: someone died, you don't ever do that. And then they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: look well obviously Jeez hasn't been that guy for so long.
Speaker 1: But it don't even mean if you're that guy now,
Speaker 1: you done brought all these extra feelings up that was
Speaker 1: already like that man, that that's rest in peace. He
Speaker 1: got a kid, he got a son, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he got family and all Thatshi over there
Speaker 1: talking about smoking on that pack and come on, that
Speaker 1: Gucci is the biggest nigga. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All you did was you you you put Gucci like this.
Speaker 1: You should have you man, you you should have just retired, bro,
Speaker 1: when you said you was gonna retire three four years ago,
Speaker 1: Like we don't. We don't need all this extra shit
Speaker 1: you you think you try and do, go get married,
Speaker 1: go with your girl and all that, and y'all go
Speaker 1: do what y'all doing. Get out the way. Basically in
Speaker 1: the way, bro, get out the way. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh yeah, yeah, I thought from just from
Speaker 1: a fan's perspective, I was, man, I was watching that
Speaker 1: ship in the dark, like, what the fuck, bro? You
Speaker 1: let that ride? You know what I'm saying, and you
Speaker 1: come out with the BMF shirt on and all that, Like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't even them niggas don't even like you, bro,
Speaker 1: Like what you trying? I do? We feel me? I
Speaker 1: don't understand this. You know he was he was reaching,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, whatever, So you
Speaker 1: got your new album out, uh, Masters in Mind, which
Speaker 1: is it's like, is it eight or nine songs A song?
Speaker 1: A songs? Yeah? It feels like are you and Freddie
Speaker 1: joint project? I mean it's really basically right basically yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's not on two of them. Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he only on six, right, So he's on six out
Speaker 1: of eight. Yeah, and I was the album's fire good looking,
Speaker 1: good look what like obviously relationship is so strong. He's
Speaker 1: had such a crazy yeah yeah the last two years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't surprised. I think he came out of that
Speaker 1: jail situation, Craze. I think to the fact that we
Speaker 1: were I think, you know, I told people like the
Speaker 1: pandemic made made the world listen to rap music differently
Speaker 1: because we ain't standing on couches, We ain't at the
Speaker 1: club popping bottles. Now you're listening in your headphones, yeah,
Speaker 1: or you're listening in the car. In the car, and
Speaker 1: so when you listen that way, you're like, it's a
Speaker 1: different way of listening to music. Right. So that's when
Speaker 1: it's like you see those Grammy nominations and it's Royce
Speaker 1: to five nine. I never thought of it like that,
Speaker 1: and it's nas and it's just like, oh shit, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of real rap shit, rap shit. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: you know fred Fred went from bandana to man he
Speaker 1: afraid of right, No, no, no, no, for sure. But
Speaker 1: I just mean, like twenty nineteen to twenty twenties, like crazy,
Speaker 1: but like how dope has it been to like just
Speaker 1: watch his last year two years? Shit, it's inspiring. I'll
Speaker 1: be motivated, you know what I mean. Yeah, you go
Speaker 1: crazy when your friends just motivate you. I ain't gotta
Speaker 1: go look at no strangers. You know, you can go
Speaker 1: around the corner to the house and he'll he'll bust
Speaker 1: a rap play. Damn you just did that, Okay, then
Speaker 1: go in the studio and rap like he just dropped
Speaker 1: that ship. He probably like fox five songs in on
Speaker 1: a new project already later and uh, the big boss
Speaker 1: rappit shit he recorded like the day or two days
Speaker 1: after the Grammy. Yeah, and it's already out. Video shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we shot the video like I was there. I caught
Speaker 1: up for a second and my wife was My wife
Speaker 1: was banging on me, So I was like, guys, I
Speaker 1: was like, look, I gotta go. So he work works,
Speaker 1: so that'd be inspiring me. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that ship even if he like this, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm right here and I'm trying to get there.
Speaker 1: I gotta work at least twice as hard as he
Speaker 1: is to get to eat where he at, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So did you ever consider because I
Speaker 1: feel like you've you know, you opened your store and
Speaker 1: you've kind of like helped with some younger artists. Have
Speaker 1: you ever gotten to the point where you're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this rap shit for fun if it
Speaker 1: works out, cool, But like you're on, I feel like
Speaker 1: I've just noticed you more as like doing boss shit,
Speaker 1: doing community the shit, doing like you know, what I mean,
Speaker 1: like and then like we get an album from you
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh shit, yeah, this shit. I think.
Speaker 1: I think everything is built from the music. You know,
Speaker 1: everything comes from the music. That's what Perico be telling
Speaker 1: me all the time. He like, yeah, man, you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. This this is but everything everything
Speaker 1: starts here is the music. We can do all this.
Speaker 1: It is even the reason that I can bring people
Speaker 1: to the store. Well, I got this big this this
Speaker 1: fucking franchise. I mean not franchise, but this Landmark restaurant
Speaker 1: next door to me, right, But that's like maybe forty
Speaker 1: five fifty percent of my clientele. And the other people
Speaker 1: you bring to other people is from rap music, from Instagram,
Speaker 1: from who I am pulling up and they're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: we gotta go to his store. All of this is
Speaker 1: from the rap, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: can fall back on the rap, and I can still
Speaker 1: stay relevant because of the store and the ship that
Speaker 1: I'm throwing, and I can bring the younger artists in
Speaker 1: and have pop ups. I can still be the guy
Speaker 1: and bust these moves and stay relevant with content without
Speaker 1: even dropping music. But it's still all revolves back to
Speaker 1: the music. I'm saying, it's all gonna come back to
Speaker 1: the music, So I gotta keep dropping, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's just the passion and the checks
Speaker 1: that's gonna come every month. It's like ship income, and yeah,
Speaker 1: keep on rapping and dropping because it's easy. This is
Speaker 1: when you think so fucking hard, like what we were
Speaker 1: saying about those other artists, like you can't be sitting
Speaker 1: here waiting nine years to drop a project, talk about
Speaker 1: like how to get my money, right, I got it,
Speaker 1: I got it. I mean, it's prime examples of a
Speaker 1: certain artists I've watched it. You didn't need no money,
Speaker 1: you need no money, like like Gucci and him. Day man,
Speaker 1: Rouchie worked instead of money. He worked out, hustled everybody's studio,
Speaker 1: five studio sessions a day, busting versus down. He didn't
Speaker 1: have to spend no money because he he just outworked everybody. Now, Ruccie,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to Rouccie because you know you
Speaker 1: part of his his come up. Rouccie. I think the
Speaker 1: first record I heard of him was lean like a
Speaker 1: trollo ship Oh yeah, yeah, damn, you was just getting
Speaker 1: up on him on it. Yeah yeah, I was crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that was crazy. And uh I was like,
Speaker 1: oh this Ship is yeah tight like some of the
Speaker 1: remixed Yeah yeah that record. You know, but uh, how
Speaker 1: did you how did you meet Ruccie? And like kind
Speaker 1: of what you're involved in Rucci because obviously he's on
Speaker 1: your Rouchie Daddy is my big homie, like Big Taco,
Speaker 1: my big homie. He raised me in the streets from
Speaker 1: when I was like thirteen, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: until Ship he went to jail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So now he's in Mexico, right, Yeah, he in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Now he got deported. So so I known Rouchie and
Speaker 1: Angels since they was little baby squeeze a babysit them,
Speaker 1: you know what i mean. Make sure they don't drive
Speaker 1: to go running in the driveway and Ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I've been knowing him as a
Speaker 1: but then he kind of moved away for like four
Speaker 1: or five years. And when he came back, I think
Speaker 1: Sean Mack brought him in. I was my little brother,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, you know what I'm saying. He brought
Speaker 1: him in the studio one like I got mintioned in here. Man,
Speaker 1: come on, bro Taco tripping, I got him hanging with us.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, he went in there and dropped the
Speaker 1: verse and I was like, damn, I'm roochie nigga. You
Speaker 1: feel me. I'm like okay. And then ever since that
Speaker 1: one verse, he just been boom boom boom boom grinding.
Speaker 1: And then I feel like when the homie Sean died,
Speaker 1: he he just just that ship just me with me.
Speaker 1: When he passed, it just had me like I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say, like under a rock, I ain't had no
Speaker 1: motivation to do nothing. It affected him the other way
Speaker 1: affected him if it affected him like different, he just
Speaker 1: the soul of him just came out and he was
Speaker 1: like both of them rapping on songs. So he had
Speaker 1: the aggression, the the the word play and everything all
Speaker 1: in the song, everything that Sean had, and he just
Speaker 1: added fuel to the flame, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he and it's just the work ethic, not him
Speaker 1: to where he I'm saying where he at now? Who
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're really tapped in with the scene
Speaker 1: out here. Who are some of the young la guys
Speaker 1: that you're a fan of that you're you know, you're
Speaker 1: fucking with fuck with Slumlord, you know from the Jungles
Speaker 1: infant like Hey Riches, out of content. Who else I've
Speaker 1: been listening to fuck with Chike, Yeah, off top, that's
Speaker 1: that's like my playlist. Do you feel like because I
Speaker 1: feel like, Uh, historically in l A, you know, because
Speaker 1: of politics, a lot of uh there, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: big sad funck with Big too big Sad. We talk
Speaker 1: some ship, but but you know there's always politics in
Speaker 1: l A, right, And I feel like throughout the years,
Speaker 1: LA has probably been one of the more segregated hip
Speaker 1: hop communities when it comes to like just the perception
Speaker 1: of people not like doing you know, not fucking with
Speaker 1: each other all the way. Like we always hear like Atlanta,
Speaker 1: everyone's together, they all rock. But I feel like this
Speaker 1: new j look like that shit out of town. But
Speaker 1: fus don't be together though, right, But but they'd be
Speaker 1: getting on each other's records. You know, it's crazy. But
Speaker 1: in LA, this new generation, it feels like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of camaraderie. You'll hear like one take Jay with Ruccie,
Speaker 1: or you'll hear like, you know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I always hear everyone on each other. Shit. Now it
Speaker 1: is like the new excuse me, like the new Like
Speaker 1: it's it's different, but it's different in the good way.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was growing up, like shit, to
Speaker 1: even bust through, you had to be Snoop Dogg affiliated
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, whether you was a gang
Speaker 1: member or not, blood or crip or whatever, you had
Speaker 1: to come through that channel to get on. You had
Speaker 1: to come through that channel or the DRE channel. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Snoop Dogg is the DRE channel. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's some that's some crazy shit because I remember talking
Speaker 1: to Nipsey in like twenty ten when he was not
Speaker 1: fucking with Dre. I mean, but you still he went
Speaker 1: to Snoop Dogg. No no, but but but I remember, like,
Speaker 1: think about I mean, you were a part of this
Speaker 1: air nobody in my era, Glasses Malone, think about. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, I'm not. I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about there was that whole era of LA
Speaker 1: rappers that just kind of got shunned by the It
Speaker 1: was it was Glasses, it was it was j Rock,
Speaker 1: it was it was it was Nipsy, you know, Rocket
Speaker 1: you know yourself, Like there was like all these There
Speaker 1: was like this scene in LA that almost like the
Speaker 1: gate keepers quote unquote, you had to go through like Ignored,
Speaker 1: to go to go through Snoop or doctor Dre to
Speaker 1: be like you know what I mean, to get solidified.
Speaker 1: That's why other motherfuckers start going out to g Z
Speaker 1: and Rough Riders, g Unit and ship like that, because
Speaker 1: it was like, wasn't nobody here trying to put nobody
Speaker 1: on yep, And then I think the only thing I
Speaker 1: mean obviously Dre. I mean, Kendrick's a perfect example once
Speaker 1: that Drake Co sign happened, just ship change. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Kendrick wouldn't have been great anyways, it's all time great,
Speaker 1: but like that, but yeah, when the when it was
Speaker 1: like this, he became great though, it was like this.
Speaker 1: So was that before Good Kid Mad City? Now? That
Speaker 1: was now, that was after that was before section eighty.
Speaker 1: It was before after section eight before oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: was before section Remember that Key Club he had that
Speaker 1: watching Yeah yeah when Game Game officially passed the torch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was uh and then he had that watch out
Speaker 1: for Detox freestyle, yeah, which is crazy. And then he
Speaker 1: just went out of here. He just became the elite
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, And it's crazy because at the time
Speaker 1: it was like like I was real tight with Nipsey
Speaker 1: at that time, and it was like Nipsey was putting
Speaker 1: so much work and game props the game because Game
Speaker 1: gave a lot of people looks at that during that time,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying that I don't think
Speaker 1: so you don't think so. I mean, I know Game
Speaker 1: put he put. He put nip on the road with
Speaker 1: on the Lax tour and j Rock Like I'm seeing
Speaker 1: like you know he had Glasses on on on Black
Speaker 1: Wall Street and ship Like I just think that was
Speaker 1: on Black Wall Street. He was, Yeah, I ain't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Glasses put me on a word. What the people
Speaker 1: that that that that solidified me out here when I
Speaker 1: was trying to have my CDs on me was these
Speaker 1: are people that I still talk to to this I
Speaker 1: talked to Glasses once a week. We argue about rap music.
Speaker 1: Mitchie Slick, Rock and mister Fab. These guys was the
Speaker 1: ones that like Mitchie Slick would be like, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: it is you need to be here. We'll bring all
Speaker 1: your CDs. Oh you can't, I'm gonna fly you out
Speaker 1: you don't believe it, I'm gonna fly you out. Oh
Speaker 1: you go stay at my spot in the bay and
Speaker 1: record with these people. And Da da Da Glasses was
Speaker 1: doing Hey, come to my show. I ain't doing no
Speaker 1: show unless this one head was Glasses dja Hey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to eleven need to be on my show too, when
Speaker 1: everybody was paying to remember all you used to do
Speaker 1: all that, when you have to pay yeah, no to eleven.
Speaker 1: If he not behind me, he need to be the
Speaker 1: second one after that person needed to be rapping. Wooo,
Speaker 1: mister fab oh come whatever. Whatever you to eleven need,
Speaker 1: he got it, and I was nobody. Bro was just
Speaker 1: inglewood gang banger. You feel me with a chain, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I could barely even wraps
Speaker 1: one of the realists, man, Yeah, Glasses was pull up
Speaker 1: in my hood in the dirty Bentley jumping out with
Speaker 1: a pro club on like, yeah, what we doing? He's
Speaker 1: like hip hop skip baylists on Twitter. That motherfucker got
Speaker 1: some wild hip hop opinions. Yeah he do though, and
Speaker 1: comes up. Oh and another person that embraced me was
Speaker 1: in Terrence Smarten. So these these are the guys that
Speaker 1: I that was his studio two doors over for a while,
Speaker 1: that was where he used to be at. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seeing these are people that embraced me in my beginning.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I that I don't
Speaker 1: forget this type of ship, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So can't nobody tell me nothing about none of these people.
Speaker 1: Mitchie Slick was still is a very underrated I mean,
Speaker 1: I love strong arm Steady all that shit. Like I
Speaker 1: would listen to his music before I even met him,
Speaker 1: and he became like I would call, I call him
Speaker 1: a big homie, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: don't think he gets enough flowers. Man, No he don't,
Speaker 1: But I mean in my book he do because I
Speaker 1: tell anybody, and these these people that I just named
Speaker 1: are the guys or my guys that that pulled me
Speaker 1: in when niggas wasn't pulling nobody in. Tell me. Everybody
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, you'll figure it out type shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But didn't have enough to
Speaker 1: be like I'm gonna put you on right right right,
Speaker 1: but they just push you over there trying to help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And wasn't nobody trying to do that, especially back then,
Speaker 1: like that was out, you know what I'm saying. Then
Speaker 1: I feel like it was definitely out. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was just yeah, that timing was different too,
Speaker 1: because LA ain't have a sound, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They ain't had no sound. Everything was out of town,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that YG and that Mustard and no, I think definitely
Speaker 1: I think like that kicked it off for the new LA.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, it was that that what was that
Speaker 1: twenty ten, twenty eleven, twelve, Yeah, really we was on it,
Speaker 1: but really it don't matter what we was on. It
Speaker 1: just matters what everybody else like when you leave, because
Speaker 1: it's it seemed like it was like Game was the
Speaker 1: guy in l A for a point in time where
Speaker 1: it felt like a long time only guy in l
Speaker 1: A nationally. Yeah, and then once that YG Mustard thing happened,
Speaker 1: it was over. But it took out of town niggas
Speaker 1: to be like that, Oh yeah, that's l A. We've
Speaker 1: been listening to that ship, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for at least four years before that. It took for
Speaker 1: them to be like my nigga, My nigga with Rich
Speaker 1: Kwan and GZ on there, and it took Giz to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, this this is him R I P
Speaker 1: R I P and then just to set the whole
Speaker 1: ship on fire. And this is what it is. You
Speaker 1: know that era when it was like Tiger was doing
Speaker 1: Rack City City. I'm different, bro, I'm different to change
Speaker 1: when he did that with Mustard, yep, it was like
Speaker 1: League Stars and Mustard they had the beats that were
Speaker 1: like and that era just just set it set the
Speaker 1: tone for And now we have the new LA sound
Speaker 1: where you hear some ship and you'll be like that
Speaker 1: sounds like some l a ship. But it's like now
Speaker 1: now it's so Mustard Legua Star re rocked, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So anything that was hot back then ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: really like hot right now is just re rocked and remixed.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, you put the just
Speaker 1: like the Trap ship, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: remember when Lex Luger, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was hot
Speaker 1: and Lex Luger kicked off that sound. And now it's
Speaker 1: all and now Mike will Metro booming and they are
Speaker 1: all sons of that early Yeah, it's all re rocked,
Speaker 1: you feel me? So that's some crazy Ship. Yeah, well, look,
Speaker 1: your album is out. You already got a video out
Speaker 1: with the Rouccie and I got two videos out. I
Speaker 1: got another play with me Quincy White and Freddy Shout
Speaker 1: to Quincy. Quincy's dope. He's been around for a long
Speaker 1: time too. Yeah. Yeah, he was a part of that
Speaker 1: time in two Yeah. What was his old rap name,
Speaker 1: Dub Dub Yeah yeah, oh my god, dubh And then
Speaker 1: we got and then I got the one I topped down.
Speaker 1: I just put out, uh Cypress, did the be to cypressman?
Speaker 1: I got Cypress? Uh yeah, with Roochie and Freddy on now,
Speaker 1: so you know shot by my boy HDT Movies and
Speaker 1: your store man, shout out your store, Yeah, the level
Speaker 1: Up Store. You know, y'all can follow follow the level
Speaker 1: Up Store. Where's that Instagram? Just everyone sitting ella next
Speaker 1: to the service spoon in Inglewood? Okay? Yeah? How is
Speaker 1: it being in Inglewood now that it's quote unquote being
Speaker 1: gentrified a bit with the arenas and shit, I'm really
Speaker 1: like two miles away from it from the arena, so
Speaker 1: they ain't really go up on me like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it can't hurt the property value, right, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's smooth though. I like it. Do you think, like, like,
Speaker 1: do you look at that as like a positive thing
Speaker 1: because it's like a good and a bad side to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I look at it now and
Speaker 1: it's you know, back in the day, it was just
Speaker 1: spray painted everywhere. Shit was raggedy niggas hanging out on
Speaker 1: every corner and the street, and now it's just cleaned up.
Speaker 1: Then turned ship into Lax Jason and all that little
Speaker 1: ship Westchester you know looking type ship, but it's still inglewood.
Speaker 1: But you know it's like out of town ers, like
Speaker 1: you know, like white people walking down the street like
Speaker 1: dogs and ship. It's just crazy. It's is different, but
Speaker 1: it's for the good. Like, how long this ship supposed
Speaker 1: to be fucked up and we're supposed to be out
Speaker 1: here in the fucked up environment. If y'all got the
Speaker 1: money to fix this up, let's do it. Do the
Speaker 1: Clippers get any brownie points for being there? Like, because
Speaker 1: obviously everyone hates the Clippers and everyone loves the Lakers,
Speaker 1: but like, do you like it should be mad at
Speaker 1: the Lakers because the Lakers ran ran off and left.
Speaker 1: They did they have to Stable Center down town. I
Speaker 1: don't even know where the Clippers supposed to be playing
Speaker 1: at though, I think they're in Inglewood. They not this year, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, not this year. No no no no. I think
Speaker 1: I think whether it's two years or next year, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be they're supposed to be, yeah, doing the Century
Speaker 1: and Prairie. I heard shure. I mean it's crazy because
Speaker 1: I never thought like, I didn't get the whole like
Speaker 1: hate in LA until I moved here, and I'm like, yo, people,
Speaker 1: really why I even know why they hate the Clippers.
Speaker 1: They don't funk with the Clippers. I'm like dog back,
Speaker 1: how good? So I like the Lakers. I'm a Lebron
Speaker 1: hater on court, you feel me. I fuck with him
Speaker 1: off the court, but on court, I'm a Lebron hater
Speaker 1: because I root for the underdog and then they just
Speaker 1: be Yeah. So I'm a I'm a Laker hater and
Speaker 1: Lebron hater. I've been a Laker hater for years, but
Speaker 1: I'm a Lebron lover, so I had to both sides
Speaker 1: of me. I go for the underdog though, man all y'all, man,
Speaker 1: Lebron Lebron, the Lakers, the Lakers like Lebron my favorite player,
Speaker 1: but I'm a Suns fan. So my whole life I
Speaker 1: hated the Lakers. So when he came to the Lakers,
Speaker 1: I had to come to a business decision to like
Speaker 1: put my Laker hate away and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: Lebron's on the Lakers Now. As long as he's on
Speaker 1: the team, I'm gonna just root for him. Damn. I'
Speaker 1: gonna wait to playoff time. I'm gonna go up on
Speaker 1: you. You You got Chris Paul at the the Suns. I'm finish.
Speaker 1: Start going for the Suns. Hey, we're good number two
Speaker 1: in the West right now? How is it we you
Speaker 1: were supposed to be al I'm not a Laker fan.
Speaker 1: I'm a Lebron fan. But if the Sons and the
Speaker 1: Lakers play, I'm working with the Suns. I've been the Sons.
Speaker 1: You used to be a Suns fan. Think about how
Speaker 1: shitty the Sons have been so my life long since
Speaker 1: night so my all my like, I mean, no, we
Speaker 1: had that room with National Mari and you know we
Speaker 1: was relevant up until about twenty ten. But I've just
Speaker 1: I've attached myself to Lebron. Yeah, the last fifteen years
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, so it's like, okay, I love the Suns,
Speaker 1: but we really ain't been ship for man to damn good.
Speaker 1: I just, I just I think he's the underdog in
Speaker 1: the sense that like he's playing on Michael Jordan's shadow.
Speaker 1: So he might not be Kobe's shadow, not Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 1: He's past Kobe. What come on, man, what is he
Speaker 1: talking about? Nobody could never be good as Kobe Bro?
Speaker 1: I think Kobe Jordan bro Let me let me, let
Speaker 1: me tell you why you're wrong. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: what you're wrong. All right, Shack leaves you remember he
Speaker 1: went how many more? Check? Wait? One? But let me explain.
Speaker 1: Let me explain. It was two? Now he played he
Speaker 1: won one more? Butt me? No, no, how many Kobe win? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait okay, Shack left Kobe for two years, couldn't get
Speaker 1: the Lakers were the eight seed. So the two years
Speaker 1: after Shaq went to Miami, the Lakers were the eight seed. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is when he quote unquote had no help. Okay,
Speaker 1: he never had wait what you mean, what O'Neil? No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying he okay, after Wight never had help. Al
Speaker 1: Gasol and Andrew Biden was an All Star center Andrew
Speaker 1: Man of the Year. Just say, Andrew, can we check
Speaker 1: out them? Andrew? Andrew Biden was a bum when he left.
Speaker 1: He was a bum when he was there, wing Like,
Speaker 1: can you're telling me he wasn't a starter? He was
Speaker 1: a seven five fucking center with that being seven five
Speaker 1: and four hundred pounds those two years. Yeah, that Kobe
Speaker 1: had literally nobody right. He couldn't even get the Lakers
Speaker 1: out of the first round of the playoffs. Now, rewind
Speaker 1: On in five had Eric snow was his starting point
Speaker 1: guy Jianyelle Marshall was the starting small forward and he
Speaker 1: was like fifty and he took them to the finals
Speaker 1: against the Spurs with no help. Koffee. Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 1: go to no championship. Bro. They played the Spurs and
Speaker 1: the Spurs waxed them. But they beat the Pistons in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals. In the year before that, the
Speaker 1: Pistons won the Ring. So my thing is and with
Speaker 1: no way he beat the He beat the defending champions
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference finals. No, they beat the Lake.
Speaker 1: The Pistons beat the Lakers in the finals the year before,
Speaker 1: but they had a different team, Bro, No, they did it.
Speaker 1: It was the same starting five, Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton. No,
Speaker 1: the Pistons beat the Lakers when they had Gary Payton,
Speaker 1: Karl Malone. Yes, listen, I'm a basketball fanatic. So with
Speaker 1: that being said, when Lebron has had no help in
Speaker 1: his career, he's always been in the motherfucking mix, I
Speaker 1: mean championships. He won though, listen, hen he gonna be
Speaker 1: fine because he was all the built teams, so he
Speaker 1: was good. Bro. He went against the Warriors, the greatest
Speaker 1: team ever assembled. He had a simple team to hold on.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get to the Warriors. Because the Warriors, he's
Speaker 1: just all genuine good players. They wasn't put together. Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant had one time he played for them one time.
Speaker 1: He played for them for three years for three seasons,
Speaker 1: but he played twice when they won. He played three
Speaker 1: years with them, though he ruined the NBA for three years.
Speaker 1: He ruined the NBA. KD damn. Now that's what put
Speaker 1: together team they got in Brooklyn right now, that ship's
Speaker 1: crazy super salary. If they don't win the fucking ring,
Speaker 1: you feel me like, God, damn, how where they getting
Speaker 1: this money from? Bruh. It's crazy. They just got the
Speaker 1: Mark LaMarcus Griffin, Like, how did they do that? Where
Speaker 1: they getting this money from? Because he got aught out
Speaker 1: and they signed for the veteran minimum. He played for
Speaker 1: free pretty much the same thing were playing. He got
Speaker 1: paid it. They paid him out. I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: get on that team, like, let me play. I got
Speaker 1: to fuck with Kobe, but he ain't fucking with Lebron.
Speaker 1: Come on, man. That's the one thing I think that
Speaker 1: we were we were unfortunately never privileged to see was
Speaker 1: the Kobe Lebron finals. Yeah yeah, but see it's the
Speaker 1: age difference though now. But you know, if you think
Speaker 1: about those years, it was the year it should have happened.
Speaker 1: Was the year the Magic beat the Cavaliers in the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals, and that was the year that Kobe
Speaker 1: played Dwight Howard in the finals and the Lakers won.
Speaker 1: That was the year it should have been Lebron versus Kobe.
Speaker 1: The other year it was eight and that was when
Speaker 1: the Celtics had the Big three that they assembled when
Speaker 1: they got KG. That team took the Cavaliers out because
Speaker 1: Lebron had no help. But that's the one thing I
Speaker 1: wish we would have saw was Kobe versus Lebron in
Speaker 1: the finals. We never got that because if you think
Speaker 1: about like Jordans, we saw all of the Jordan battles
Speaker 1: we wanted to see going up Like he went against
Speaker 1: Magic in ninety one. Yeah, he went up against the
Speaker 1: Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals three years in a row.
Speaker 1: He went up against the Celtics. He went up against
Speaker 1: all these dudes like he had battles with you, Like
Speaker 1: he went up against Barkley in ninety three. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that was That was when I
Speaker 1: was a fucking Sons fan. Oh yeah, I didn't even
Speaker 1: go up but he went up against Barkley. But he
Speaker 1: didn't win that game. You know who won that game?
Speaker 1: John Paxson. On fucking Paxson. I hate that motherfucker. Right there,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I had the whole I was like Kevin Johnson,
Speaker 1: fakyj kJ, duntan kJ. Look at my poster right there,
Speaker 1: look back there. One oh one was like one of
Speaker 1: the I had the crackhead on y'all team. Richard Dumas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: feel me, that was my year though, Rightchard Dumas was
Speaker 1: smoking rocks as a rookie balling those is starting. Oh,
Speaker 1: my starter on crack, real crack. My man was a
Speaker 1: rookie smoking crack. He was real though. He was out
Speaker 1: there serving. They had a team, bro, they had Hey,
Speaker 1: they had a team. I have never been to Phoenix before,
Speaker 1: but I was. I don't even know how I even
Speaker 1: became a Phoenix son. And we had Dan Marley and Marley,
Speaker 1: Danny Ain, Oliver Manning, Danny Man, Danny Manning. Oh, they
Speaker 1: had a squad with Barkley. I don't know who the
Speaker 1: big man was. We had a Mark West, Oliver Miller,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Oliver Miller, Nick hold On who was shooting
Speaker 1: them threes? Dann Marley was was was lights out? It
Speaker 1: was Rex Chapman. Yeah. They had Rex Chapman though too.
Speaker 1: They had a squad. Yeah, look man, thank you for
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