1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, all right, ladies and gentlemen, It is another 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: edition of the Boulet keV podcast, and we got a 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: shout out to my boy two eleven. Two eleven is 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a dude out of Inglewood who's been a part of 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: some historical camps and hip hop. I've been around a 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: lot of history and hip hop. He just released an 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: album called Mastermind that's kind of like a Freddy Gigs 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: collab album. He's on a Freddie Gibs on every record 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: I think besides two, So go check that out. 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Let's get 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: into this podcast though. Shout out to my guy two eleven. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: It's the Bootleg cav Podcast. Are your boutlet cav Podcast? 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Bluele cav Show? Yeah, my god, Michael, welcome, Welcome man. 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I think I've met you originally in about 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: twenty ten when I was doing Radyo in Vegas. Yeah, 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: we met the day remember Jez had a show at 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: the Pearl Freddie opened. Nah. See that was that had 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: to be way. That had to be because I met 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: you with fred who met me with Fred You met 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: me with Freddie when we did the I had to 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: be That was twenty twelve going Yeah, that was twenty 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: eleven going on twenty twelve, he had a show. We 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: went from Vegas Tucson, Vegas. I mean we went to Phoenix, Tucson, Vegas, 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: and then back to LA. And then that's what I 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: met you in Phoenix. I think you put all three 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: four shows together. I put a couple shows together for 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: Freddy and Phoenix. But I'm telling you, I met you 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: at the Pearl. I'm pretty sure were you at that show. 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I probably was, though, Yeah you think Jeez was doing 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: in Vegas or yeah, what I'm saying at the same time, 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: I was there, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, for 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: people who don't know, man, you you've been a staple 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: in LA for a long time. You got your store 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: of the level up store, sir, that's booming, and you 52 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: know you've been an artist for how long have you been? 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Like when did you first start releasing music? First start 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: releasing music was two thousand and seven, Yeah, and then 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight was kind of like I was solidified, like, man, 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: that's an artist, right right, right right, and then I 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: really learned how to rap. Two thousand and nine, you 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: feel twenty ten has just been learning how the game. 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, what was your like the first person who 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of got behind you and co signed you in 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: La Sug Sugar, I'm on death road before I met Jeez, 62 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then the whole shit 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: he got getting shot, you know what I'm saying, He 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: like disappeared. You know, he had his own shit going on, 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: So you know how that go. I remember Gez called 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: in like, man, if that shit don't work over there, 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: come on through. So you signed? What year did you sign? 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: What were you? What year did you meet Sugar and 69 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: start rolling with him at Sugar in two thousand and five? 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow? Through my homie, my big homie, Peewee rest 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: in Peak. So I mean, you know, just like every 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: nigga in La everybody rapped, you know what I mean. 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: So I was making you know, freestyles in the garage, 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: putting them on CDs and giving them to my homies. 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: So I was a rapper in my neighborhood. You know 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's a you know coming up. And 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: then one day my homie was like, yeah, you know, 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I know somebody that I was in the face with 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Shugar Pot and we told him about you. We're gonna whatever. 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: So we I'm in Vegas one day and they like 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: shug Get, the Strip Club, the Crazy Horse. So we 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: pull up with my homies, you know, and I introduced myself. 83 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: He like, yeah, we just took it from there and 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: come to l a start recording. I had songs with 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: Tupac and kind of ship. I ain't never heard him 86 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: every I walked out the studio, but yeah, he first 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: person to put me in a big boy studio. Yeah, 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: put to my closer to your face. Yeah, he's the 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: first one put me in the Big Boys studio. That's 90 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: when Pete Pablo was over there. I remember when Pete 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: was under that was a very weird. Yeah situation, but ship, 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, it never made sense to me. Nah. Nah, 93 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: he thought he was Tupac or something like Yeah, because 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: there was like that era when it was that double 95 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: XL cover with Corrupt Eastwood was crooked eye on that 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: cover and the left eye. Yeah I'm talking, I'm talking. 97 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: That was before that was that had to be two 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: thousand and one. Yeah, that was way before the first 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: got out, right, And so you met him kind of 100 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: like that kind of two thousand and five, so that 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: had kind of already fallen apart, and he had had 102 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: I think, I think, really when I started hanging out 103 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: over there, Corrupt was over there. So I kind of 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: met Shug when Corrupt was there. You know what I mean, 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: because I used to hang with Roscoe and Tone all 106 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: of White. Remember, of course Roscoe Rosco was so fire. 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: That was hard on the intro on Streets as a mother, bro, 108 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: come on, That's what made me want to cor And 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: when I who's that song called? When I called shots 110 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: out here? I know that full words. Oh my god, 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: for bar that was the that was one of the 112 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: most left on albums ever. Corrupt Streets is a mother 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: and that fucking Roscoe verse. He set the whole It 114 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: was track one. He set the whole tone for the 115 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: rest of the project. I remember thinking, like, Yo, Rosco's next, 116 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: and then I didn't. It was my age though, I'm like, 117 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: damn that food my age. When I first met, I'm like, 118 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: we the same age. He caught that, Like yo, he 119 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: caught that smooth sailing record. I was like, oh, it's 120 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. But then he was on Girls. 121 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: He was on Girls all Paul, So you were hanging 122 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: out with the YA dudes hanging out with YA. But 123 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: I wasn't rapping though, so they kind of gave me 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: the motivation of ship. Man, I'm hanging with these and 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: these every day. They could do it, I could do it, 126 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I always was in 127 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: the cut trying to write or trying to put it together, 128 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, well so when 129 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I guess when that kind of fell apart of everything 130 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: over there, you know, this dismantled. It came about like 131 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: two more years later and then I just fell in. 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: But I never really like introduced the one on one 133 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: with Sugar, like I'm you know what I'm saying, whoo whoop, 134 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. But about two thousand 135 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: and five came around and I introduced myself and we 136 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: had our one on one and then he started come 137 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: telling me to come to the studio. How do you think, like, 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: how would you describe Sugar as a person based on 139 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: your relationship with nothing as as everybody think he is, 140 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: He's just a big old cool nigga. To me, one 141 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: of the coolest niggas I ever met, Because we hear 142 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: all this crazy shit and then you hear people who 143 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: like really know they're like, man, Sugar is one of 144 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the realists, Like one of the realist, coolest niggas one 145 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: of the I mean the stories he'll tell you. You You 146 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: feel me to even sit sit in the circle and 147 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: listen to these stories he'll tell you, and it's just like, yeah, 148 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: so after after watching, after knowing him, and then watching 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: all these fucking weird ass ships that they got on 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: TV about Tupac and Biggie and Shug this and Sugar that, 151 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I'd be like, damn, that's they just got the whole 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: ship on top of sug. It's just like, yeah, there's 153 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: all this they drag his name through the mud like that. 154 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: You know. I feel like in that situation, with the 155 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Tupac Biggie situation, obviously both of them dying, there had 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: to be you gotta you gotta figure out who the 157 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: bast is in the public made Sugar the bad guy 158 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: and that yeah, because because there was nobody there. I mean, look, 159 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: both both murders are still the angel exactly made Puffy 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: an angel. But now it's coming out like he was 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: really on the same type of shit, you know what 162 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like some of this ship, man, it's like, damn, 163 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: nigga twenty five years later, like you was on the 164 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: same type of ship. You got crips with you. I 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: just found that out, Like you had to come to 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: crips with you, bro, like you knew what you was doing, 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Like come on man, yeah, some of the uh stuff 168 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that Like I remember there was an LA Times article 169 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: that came out about Puffy maybe like eight nine years ago, 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, yeah, you're talking again. We 171 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: don't again. We don't know. I mean, at least I 172 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah. I mean there's people who think they 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: know exactly what happened on each side, right, But it's 174 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I mean, Sugar like the bad guy. Sugar 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: was paying as the bad guy, and it made it 176 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: seem like niggas was bullying Puffy and Biggie and ship 177 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: like that. But I mean, it's just like it's the 178 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: same shit going on now. It's just like like an 179 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: out of town nigga come out here and you know 180 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, get with some get with a nigga 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: like me or somebody or another homie and get the 182 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: gang banging. But it's just on a different platform because 183 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: you're this big ass rap star, you know what I mean. 184 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: So it's it's like, I mean, it's like the culture 185 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: is the LA culture. I've been everywhere. Everybody want to 186 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: be an l A nigga. Everybody loved this culture. Crips, 187 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: bloods man, the crypt Walk and all this shit is 188 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: just uh, it's just I don't I can't even explain it. 189 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: But we influenced the rest of the America, the rest 190 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: of the world, you feel me. Really, it's just something 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: about l A culture, you know that the gang ship 192 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: and the way we stand. I was we was at 193 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: the restaurant yesterday and the Homy from Chicago like you 194 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta put my feet like this and 195 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, what's up. I'm like, that's that's just 196 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: it's it's funny, but it's crazy that this is how 197 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: the rest of the people think of us, you know, 198 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: but they like it though. You know what I'm saying. Well, 199 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean I was talking to Big U and I 200 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: was like, you know, before he went to prison, I 201 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: was like, yo, before you went to prison, Like like 202 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: he was in prison when the peak of gang banging 203 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: became like commercial. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like 204 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: you remember back in the day, there was like a 205 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: Cryps Versus Bloods album and like that's my one of 206 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: my favorite albums Banging on Wax Bang Won two, and 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: then it went from Donald Riders to Nationwide Riders. Right, So, 208 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: like there was that that point in time when the 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: gang ship became so cool in the nineties colors came 210 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: out or like I think that was late eighties early nineties, 211 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: but like it became just like a worldwide thing. And 212 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: that's I think, like you said, like just La influencing 213 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: the world as far as like there's crips and sets 214 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: and bloods. Brother the kid on Empire, Dusty Lokine is 215 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: talking neighborhood cripshit and he's from Brooklyn. It's insane, but 216 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: it's just like how to I I just like I 217 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: tell everybody else to define why niggas gang bang everywhere else. 218 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is listen to Summer Vacation from 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: ice Cube. All these is not even gang niggas, ain't 220 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: niggas out of town, ain't gang banging. They is just 221 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: from a gang. So they're just gang members. They're not 222 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: this is not their culture. There's just something for them 223 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: to do. What's the different, Like give me because people 224 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: for people who are watching the drug gangs, that's what 225 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, give me that. So when you say 226 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: gang banging, what is that like? With gang banging, it's 227 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: like we're gonna we're gonna wake up today, We're gonna 228 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: go put in some work on. Feel me like, if 229 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: you're a blood, you're gonna go shoot some crips, or 230 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna go beat up some crips, or you're riding 231 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: around to go find these people, you know, vice versa. 232 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: And then I feel like I feel like I ain't 233 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: gonna say all the out of town people, but a 234 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: lot of people from out of town that's not like 235 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: you'll be from sixties, but you've never been on sixtieth Street, 236 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: y'a don't have a sixtieth Street in your neighborhood. You 237 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Niggas is saying they from POWERU 238 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: like you ain't like you feel me, y'all woke up 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: in fucking Kansas somewhere, you know what I'm saying. So, y'all, 240 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: just like ice cubes say niggas dying and banging over 241 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the streets that they ain't never heard of you feel me, 242 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: or been to or so it's like they waking up 243 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: and they just claiming the gang and claiming the shit. 244 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: But it's like the good, the good parts have come 245 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: with it, but like you ain't really not really here 246 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: for that part, for the not taking this bad port. 247 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: But don't get it wrong, Like I've been in the 248 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: places where niggas is really gang banging, but got their 249 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: own gangs and their own neighborhoods. Prime example, fucking making 250 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Georgia them nigga's out there, like nineteen ninety four. Out there, 251 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: mothers got their own gang, their own section, their own name, 252 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: they and they doing it how we do it out here. 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: It's just it's just different. So I can't say everybody, 254 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: but a lot of the majority is just it's just different, 255 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I do think that, 256 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: like because because people will not understand what it means 257 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: to get banged on. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like DJ 258 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: had had to educate me when I moved out here 259 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, look like you know you like 260 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: he had, I know, you're like dude, he gave me 261 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: the whole hot rundown. He was like, look, t hat on? 262 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: What does this hat mean? It means you mean gangster crib. 263 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Basically it's crazy. I mean when it's blue. So I 264 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: literally I got this hat with trade that could be 265 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: in trouble. Me and Freddie were in we were in Austin, Texas, 266 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: and I bought this hat. But we in LA Now 267 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know. So it's crazy to get rough. Bro. 268 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Bro Head had to give me the whole breakdown. He's like, look, Bro, 269 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: you can't wear Yankees hats unless you're in the valley. 270 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like Astro hats out. He's like, he 271 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: gave me the whole ship, and I was like, fuck, 272 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: I was telling him. I was telling less, you know, 273 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: you gotta lead him Houston hat. Leave it. People think 274 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: you're a fucking Hoover. Yeah, we don't care if you're 275 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: an Astro fan or not. You gotta lead that ship 276 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: somewhere else, bro, because we're gonna spin off and Nigga 277 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: gonna get on you where you from. Check it out? 278 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: All that is like, Bro, check it out. It hit 279 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: you that Bro, you better just get out the way 280 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: or you feel me it's for to get bad. Yeah, 281 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: it's wild because like I was like, bro, look I'm 282 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: from Arizona. What about a Diamondbacks hat. He's like, I 283 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: think you're good with that he's like that, And just 284 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: a plain black might wake up in a bad mood 285 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: and you could have a fucking you got the A 286 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: hat on, he could have a that shit don't even 287 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: mean nothing. The nigga might just be like me, what 288 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: that A stand for? Like just because he in a 289 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: bad mood? Like, bro, be like mast so what fuck 290 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: all that? You feel me? Take that ship off, and 291 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: the motherfucker'd be really in you know what I'm saying. 292 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: On a bad day, had told me he was like, look, 293 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: if anyone ever tries to bang on you just start 294 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: acting super pissed off, like you just got into a 295 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: fight with your girl. The man just left me here, 296 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm waiting from my uber. I'm gonna kill this head, 297 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: gonna get you fucked up. He's about to tell the 298 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: motherfucker man, I'm not from here, you feel me. I'm 299 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: not from over here. I'm from I'm from Arizona. Like, 300 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: motherfucker Like all right, all right, you know what I'm saying. 301 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: And my out of town probably be coming here and 302 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: they be like, man, I can't wear red, I can't 303 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: wear blue. Like bro, all you gotta do is speak 304 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: You sound like you from Florida or something like, Man, 305 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: ain't nobody worried about you? But it's only in these sections, 306 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: like we're in North Hollywood. Bro't I'm not gonna walk 307 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: down the street. Ain't nobody finna say nothing? You know 308 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you're in a certain areas south 309 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: of fucking Wheelshire or some ship like that, really south 310 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: of when you passed fucking what is that ship like 311 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Olympic south of the Olympic, makes sure you it's you 312 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: can get banged on. I feel me, you feel me 313 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: at the seven eleven, the gas station, all that burger spots, 314 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where it goes up at the 315 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: mall right, you know what I mean? So being around sugar, 316 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: what's like there? What's your craziest sugar Night's story? Man 317 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: that you that that you were around because that was 318 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: an interesting like time of sugs because when did when 319 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: did he get into get into it with the barber dude? 320 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Remember there was the barber that that punched, Oh yeah 321 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: with Greg. I went to school with that nigga. I 322 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: know him too. Yeah that was that was like that 323 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah big when yeah, people were still wearing 324 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: big clothes. I remember that people were still wearing big clothes. 325 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, I was in Atlanta when that happened, 326 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, so I wasn't around for that. It was 327 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the crazy shit you're around with Shulgar Man. I can't 328 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: even really put my put my finger on it. It's 329 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: just we balled out, really like every time I'm with him, 330 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: we balling out. I remember, Okay, I remember one time though, 331 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: with really, like when I first started working with him. 332 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm in Lake Tahoe. I'm on a little 333 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: vacation and ship. So he called me out of nowhere. 334 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: It's when the chirps was out here, like yeah, hey, 335 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm like, man, I'm chilling, Like he 336 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: comes to the studio right now. But I got these 337 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: girls with me though, you know what I mean. So 338 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no. Before that, I'm like, I 339 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: feel like you try to play me on the speakerphone 340 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: in front of these bitches. You feel me? So I'm like, 341 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, hommy, you feel me? Nigga? I ain't 342 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: a I'm thinking it's the Snoop Dogg in the back 343 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: of the day ship. How I'm like, bro, this this 344 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: ain't that nigga. Power Nigga. He like, man, chill out 345 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: bro comes to the studio, Nigga gonna pay for everything. 346 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yea, all right, but I was low key 347 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: embarrassed because he like Nigga dropped everything, comes to the 348 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: studio right now and heard it. That's all I heard 349 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: was or else, But he ain't say that though, that's 350 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: what you heard? What I heard like that or else? 351 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: Like hold over, you think you talking to you feel me? 352 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: But so I'm like, all right, I'm coach studio nick 353 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: Now I went, I remember I drove the Reno. They 354 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: dropped me off to Reno. I'll put my whole vacation 355 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: on pause, fly out here just to record like folk songs, 356 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he cashed me out 357 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: like here go on thousand. My ticket was on like 358 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: two fifty round trip or something like that. Put me 359 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: in the hotel and all I'm like, all in, you 360 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: feel me? He had the suitcase, the briefcase, opened the 361 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: briefcase up and he had all this money in the briefcase. 362 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: I said, this nigga really rich rich Huh. He was 363 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: just moving he was still moving around like shugar. He 364 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: was moving around like Sugar, and he thought he was 365 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: broken all that. Like, man, he had a new Porsche, 366 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: the new the newest cars out, living in Century City 367 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: Plaza whatever that you're called over there and living he 368 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: lived there at the top of the penthouse. You know, 369 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: I think there was like a obviously the public perception 370 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: of Sugars. He was like this huge blood that was 371 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: like ran in La and well look when we walked 372 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: through so so everybody hate on him. But when we 373 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: walked through the Palms or we be in Vegas, it'd 374 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: be it'd be like hell of white people like, oh 375 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: can I get a picture? We love you? And Italians 376 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: like I'll be like, damn, they like you get love. 377 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: But motherfucker walk off and be like, fuck Sugar. He 378 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: he killed Tupac and he did this and he did that, 379 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: and he's a murderer and all this, a woman beater 380 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and all that. I'm like, this nigga's like the coolest 381 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: nigga in the world, right, you know what I mean, 382 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: that's crazy the game and all that too. So from 383 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: the death throw situation, is how you ended up working 384 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: with Jez after that? Yeah? So yeah, So I was 385 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: already hanging out in Atlanta, and shit, and you know, 386 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: hanging with I had a friend that was I worked 387 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: with Jez, so they introduced me and all that. So 388 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: at the time, I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm fucking 389 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: we should trying to do my rap shit and all that. 390 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: I go hang with them, and he just told me, 391 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, when if that don't work out, you know, 392 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: you got a home over here, like all right, so 393 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: when it didn't work out, I'll start hanging out over 394 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: there with them, going to the promo tours and then 395 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: and it just turned into it took me like a 396 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: year to get signed over there for TT Yeah. Yeah, 397 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think like that was like a cool 398 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: I think that was a cool moment because at the time, 399 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: obviously Jesz was putting out hell of mixtapes. And then 400 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it was kind of like CT second 401 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: run kind of this was the first run, but no, no, 402 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like tw twenty eleven was 403 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: kind of like, nah, I got signed over there in 404 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Oh shit, yeah, so this was 405 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: this is the first run. That's the first run. That's 406 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: the first one signed the CT depth jam. So I 407 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: was on the label deal. Oh so yeah, I don't 408 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: know why I thought you were you signed over there 409 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: like early. No, I was there before. I was there 410 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: before Freddy. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So I 411 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: was like one of the first artists over there. It 412 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: was slick, pulling and blood right, and then they put 413 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: out the Then Rocket came. Okay, yeah, I been Rocket 414 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: and then already had a relationship. But then me and 415 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Rocket got like this because from out here, So it 416 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: was just a look, you know what I'm saying, and 417 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: then yeah, I just start putting out music. And then 418 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: I think Freddy got there in twenty ten, but already 419 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: knew Freddy from out here. Jay Rock introduced me to 420 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: Freddy the first night we met. We did a song 421 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: after the club one night, you know what I mean. 422 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: And we've just been cool ever since. Yeah, it's crazy 423 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: because didn't did you leave? You left CTE after fred right, 424 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: that was before so Freddy got there and what was 425 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: that the beginning of twenty ten? I left him? Know 426 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: he got there beginning of two thousand and let yeah, shit, 427 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: and I left like in the public. I left in 428 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: like twelve, but I was already gone from a little 429 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: money situation, like the end of twenty eleven. You know 430 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, it's crazy because obviously you and 431 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Fred have kept a relationship for so long despite a 432 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: situation like that. Might you know, people kind of choose up, 433 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. No, they chose up on me. 434 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: And that's the only reason why I fucked with Freddie's 435 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: so tough because he was the only nigga that stayed 436 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: down with me, like in my even when I met 437 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you that time. Only reason I went on that tour 438 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: because I had he knew that I was leaving the 439 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: CT situation. They fucked me over like four hundred thousand. 440 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, fuck these niggas. You know what I'm saying. 441 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I a't have a big enough microphone to go and 442 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: just be dissing because it's gonna make me look better. 443 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm gonna just do what I'm 444 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: gonna do, you know what I'm saying. And everybody like 445 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: bailed on me, and I had so much slander. I 446 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: was going through much, so much shit at the time. 447 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: You know that everybody bailed on me. He was the 448 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: only one that was like bro still he like That's 449 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: how I came to Arizona. He's like, Bro, you got 450 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: to get out of LA. It's fucked. You got a 451 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of shit going on right now, Come on tour 452 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: with me. Now I remember that. I'm like, bro, bring 453 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: my gun and all that shit. You're like, nah, I 454 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: ain't telling you don't bring it, but right right, you 455 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: ain't gonna need it, you know what I'm saying, Like 456 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: nigga for a rap concert, like you feel me, ain't 457 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna need no pistol or nothing, no protection, like nah, 458 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: it's not like that. Yeah, it's crazy because I know 459 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: Fred's side of what happened at ah at CTE, and 460 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: it seems as if a lot of the people, almost 461 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: everyone who was around j Z early on, it's not 462 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: there anymore. Nobody fucks with that nigga and no, and 463 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: nobody's got anything good to say about And I met 464 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Jeez a bunch, but you know, even like a shout 465 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: out to Carbon fifteen fifteen, you know that's that was 466 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: my guy who was you know, anytime I needed anything 467 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: Jez related, I would hit fifteen, you know what I'm saying. 468 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: And obviously we still be business. Real dude, man, he's 469 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: still I still talk a body over there, Damn. Like 470 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: Pulla just got out. I spoke to him briefly, but 471 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: like me, Freddy, I talked to Kink all the time. 472 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, you were around Gez 473 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: a lot longer than fred so you know you were 474 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: around that that whole situation. He was like, man, why 475 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: I ain't tell me? I'm like, bro, what I look like? 476 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: I can't tell I didn't bring you in a situation. 477 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: I would have been like, you feel me. This ain't it, bro, 478 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: this ain't gonna happen. You knew it wasn't it pretty soon, 479 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: pretty quick? Or I knew it wasn't it when he 480 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: when they appeared on the bus and I'm like, what 481 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: you're doing here? Bro? He like, man, fin the sign 482 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: over here and I'm like, oh, we're going to see 483 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: our double a and they like you know him. I'm like, yeah, 484 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: this is just a homie. What you mean? Like he's 485 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: from Gary. I'm like this nigga live in l A, Bro, 486 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: Like we got songs together and everything, okay. Cool. I 487 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: was never mad at Freddie. I'm looking at JIZI like, Nigga, 488 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: you bring a new artists in and you can't even 489 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: you can't even work the artists you've had on the 490 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: label for that. Niggas in debt and some most shit, 491 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: we don't have no music, Like what's going on, you 492 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And so I ain't gonna I think. 493 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: I think one day he was just like the way 494 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: I left was he caught this big old meeting and 495 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: the nigga was like, yeah, I'm not giving no money out, 496 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: which was giving no money out in the first place, 497 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: and he like, uh, you know, niggas gotta gotta go 498 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: out and use the name and the label to get money. 499 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's what I did, you know what 500 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean? And I went and got a four hundred 501 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars deal for some music, half the music that 502 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: was already out and half was unreleased music. And the 503 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: nigga sent me assistant decease. I was with SMC, So 504 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: he told you. Nigga told me to go do this, 505 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: and then do it. He hit you with the season, 506 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: the whole ship up, and I'm getting your artists money. 507 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: I could have just pocketed all of this ship myself 508 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: and been like fuck y'all, you know what I mean. 509 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: And from that point on, I'm like, bro, they had 510 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: me fool like this family first, and it's some family ship. 511 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, based on your you were 512 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: around g Z, I guess probably when he was transitioning 513 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: out of being known it is like a really hardcore 514 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: gangster rapper into him kind of becoming more of a 515 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: staple in him. I was there for so I met 516 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: him today the day Motivation went gold in Vegas. Wow, 517 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then I was with 518 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: them damn near all time great album. Yeah, I ain't 519 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna knock that. Yeah, that was a great album all 520 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: the way up until what the one O three? Like that? Yes, 521 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: Because I was gonna say, like, I think that people 522 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: from the outside look at him will be like, look, 523 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: well Geez obviously has grown into who he is today, right, 524 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: and you could say whatever you want to say. I 525 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: just saw the interview with his old partner that was 526 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: on the Yeah, and where he was like, look that 527 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: versus scratched any any street credit he could ever have 528 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: out mystery. Yeah. I don't know what he was thinking 529 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: with that, but I know he was thinking, it's a look, 530 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: nigga do anything for a look. You know, he's hosting 531 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: the fucking Talk Like I think Jzu's an obviousty right now, 532 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: he reaching he thirsty. He don't know what to do. 533 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: Niggas ain't fucking with him. He ain't got no real 534 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: niggas with him. Were you around when the Gucci beef 535 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: was pretty pretty serious? It was always serious, but no 536 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: should I don't know. I actually ran into Gucci one time. 537 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: I ran into I ran into all of them on 538 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: my own time, you know, out here, like what's happening? 539 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: Woker too, and me and Whacka were cool, like that's 540 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: the hummy, right, ran into Waka. We chopped it up. 541 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: Twenty ten months later, I run into Gucci in my studio. 542 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Remember that, Yeah, me and Gucci chopped it up. He 543 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: was so cool. I'm like, damn, bro, why I don't 544 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: like this nigga? You feel me? Gucci was cool as fuck? 545 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: And and yes, but then I've been in clubs and 546 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: we was all together and ain't nothing happened, you know 547 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was confused. But that's what 548 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: Fred was telling me. Be like, man, like, I'm the 549 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: like friends of the type of motherfucker. We got problems. 550 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: We in the same play. Something's gonna happen. Oh, That's 551 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: what I was confused. We'd be in Central Station and 552 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: them niggas be right over there and I'm like, okay, 553 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: well let's get it. Wasn't there. There was a when 554 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the NMG bef got kind of I was gone, you're 555 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: already gone on, Yeah, I was there. I was. I 556 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: think all that ship was over a bitch. That's what 557 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: I heard, honestly, really, because I was there all that 558 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: ship around. When did the BMF come out? The song 559 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: that was all that that time when that ship came out, 560 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: and it was basically it seemed like it was over 561 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: a bitch and that and that song you feel mean, 562 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Nigga was mad. I don't know if he felt like 563 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: he should have made that song to get that, you 564 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Butig who cares? So it was 565 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: just a whole bunch of weird shit going on. But 566 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I was cool with Ross. Ross gave me a verse 567 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: all kind of ship like, you know what I'm saying. 568 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: But then I left in the midst of all that, 569 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and they had to figure 570 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: that shit out. Damn. Did you notice like a change 571 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: with Jez's energy just like over time, like because if 572 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: you were around in seven, I feel like that was 573 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: kind of GEZ probably still moving a certain way with 574 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: a certain type of people around him, you know what 575 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of people 576 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: was just he ended up getting that deaf jam situation, 577 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: which was was that that was later right, Uh, he 578 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: was already he was always on death gym. No, I 579 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: mean I mean the Atlantic, Yeah, he was. I was 580 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: gone by the end. Yeah. So yeah, it's just like 581 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: you'll hear some people who around GZ like super early 582 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, yeah, sh it was like real 583 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: out like it was some real ship going on. And 584 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: then you know, I mean it was active. It was 585 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: some active shit going on. We didn't got into some 586 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: ship before and it was real activity. I can't knock that. 587 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: But just on some low tea and business ship it was. 588 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't solid, which explains why nobody fucks with him 589 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: no more. And it's just like and then look and 590 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: like I think, like again, like I'm a fan of Jiz. 591 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I've been around him. He's a nice guy. I never 592 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: I don't have any personal issues with him. But just 593 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: like from a fan's perspective, you'll look at like CT 594 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: and you'll be like, dang, no one ever came out 595 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: of CT and you can say, y G, he had 596 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: he had guys, but you can say y G. But 597 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: why G was already on death jam and they kind 598 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: of just threw the CT you through it and then yeah, 599 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I think that was kind of got in his ear 600 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: about that ship. But I left in the midst of that, 601 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: like the whole YG going on. I told I told GZ, 602 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: I said, man, it's the guy. He's finna be the 603 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: next nigga. Up. Well, we were in colony. I'm like, 604 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: and I told just incredible. We unplugged drama computer and 605 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: plugged just incredible. Up. We're telling drama play off YG ship, Like, 606 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: who is that? I'm like, what nigga unplugged this ship? Bro? 607 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: Pluging just incredible ship? Up? Man, play that YG ship. 608 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm texting my boy to text him, tell him what 609 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: songs to play. I'm telling him in GZ ear it's 610 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: my birthday too, so I'm drunk, you feeling washed. I'm 611 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: telling watch how this club turn around. He played one 612 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: joint boom, play another joint boom though the crowd the 613 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: club just turn up from there. I'm like, Bro, it's 614 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: the nigga young homie woo whoop. He got like a 615 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: situation at death Jam. I don't think they know what 616 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: to do with it. You need to pull these strings, 617 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: bring them over here. He's like, yeah, well this ship 618 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: ain't got finnah, get up my chain. We finna come 619 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: over here. And da da da da no, no, hold on, 620 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, feel me dah da dah. But 621 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling this nigga like he's the guy. Bro. 622 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: This is because we had in the condo in Atlanta. 623 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Every morning, I'm waking up playing yg Nipson. You know 624 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the shit that I that we listened 625 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: to out here, and they like, man, you're playing that ship. 626 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you mean? This is the ship that 627 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: were playing in LA. This is what's going on. Yeah, 628 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: And and I leave thirty days after that. We fall 629 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: out thirty sixty days after that, and then I remember, 630 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: I remember some mixtapes coming out, you know what I mean, 631 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: And then we I hear them on songs and taking pictures. 632 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here it ran, it's happening. It's cool. 633 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: Though I never was like mad about it or nothing 634 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. And it just 635 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: turned into what it turned into what did you think 636 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: when you saw the versus thing? Did you like? Like? 637 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: What are you? What are your thoughts on it? Clay 638 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: this else? You think? So played itself every step of 639 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: the way, like what you sell no records like that. 640 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: Don't nobody even know you had an album come out, 641 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: and you did all this just to ship on the people. 642 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: I was sliding with you, like you know, Mactown niggas. Basically, yeah, 643 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like I mean the guy that died, 644 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then Gucci showed his ass. 645 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think when Gucci started getting disrespectful, man, 646 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Gucci been disrespectful. No, no, but I'm saying like I 647 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: knew Gucci was gonna be disrespectful. Yes, Gucci was on Instagram. 648 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: He came out swinging with the whole original new song. No, 649 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't new. I thought that first song was a 650 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: new song. That song was this is Gucci man. First geez, 651 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: that ship was out. When State Trapped came out, we 652 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: was watching these videos. We was watching this feud from 653 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: out here. I didn't know them when this happened, you 654 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And then I kind of fell 655 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: over there like, and it was already going on. Really, 656 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: Gucci was in jail when I got signed over there. 657 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: So so let me I you this because I think 658 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: like the other side of the coin is like, well, 659 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: Jez's showing people that you know, you can grow all 660 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: that you can growing because the homie, rest and peace 661 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: can't grow. You feel me, you're doing all this for what? Now? 662 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't try to shoo on this nigga 663 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: your whole career and his whole career. What's the use 664 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: of y'all patching up? Like? I feel you? You know 665 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: that's cool, But like, come on, man, you let me 666 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: ask you. Don't you think if you're in jezus all 667 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: that ship was for? Look, no, I feel your work. 668 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: He thought it was going to work because originally it 669 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to be Jez versus T. I yeah, but 670 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: he man, of course you got this. That's why we're 671 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: talking about it now. He did that. I don't know. 672 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I think he think of like where Jeez probably is 673 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: in life. He's got kids, in college, he just got married. 674 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: He's definitely all the way out of that side of that, 675 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, so we don't even know if who he 676 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: is then because this whole time we've been doing this, person, 677 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: you feel me. Yeah, I think when someone loses their 678 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: life because of the situation is when you didn't even 679 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: it couldn't even. I'm not saying you had to go 680 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: do nothing, but you didn't have to do this right, 681 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 1: Like it's Gucci already on top. Let me ask you this, 682 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: do you think if somebody sees what happened with Jizi 683 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: and Gucci and they in their personal situations with somebody 684 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: in this Because I think that that's something that's so 685 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: hard about stopping some of this violence, right Because how 686 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me to not do this to somebody 687 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: when my cousin's dead over this shit or you know, 688 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: my partner or whoever, and it's been so long, like 689 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: you just brought more ship out of the closet that 690 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: was already kind of like you know, it was calmed down. 691 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: But do you think yeah? I mean, I mean, do 692 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: you but do you think that there's some good that 693 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: could have came out of that, whether it was maybe 694 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: influencing somebody who watched the verses? Do you mean I 695 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: feel like it was some good that they did the 696 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: song at the end, and you know, it's cool. Ain't 697 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: nobody get shot or fired or nothing like that. You 698 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of showed a little, but deep down, the only 699 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: reason we know these people is because of these situations 700 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: and the people that you claim to be, that you've 701 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: been telling us that you are and who we fell 702 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: in love with. And at the end of the day, 703 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think Jesz's been that guy for 704 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: a long time though, as far as just like the 705 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: persona he even the persona he gives out to everyone. Yeah, 706 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: but but we give it the benefit of the doubt 707 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: to be like, you steal the guy from Doug motivation 708 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: and all these other inspirations, and you know you're still 709 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: somewhat of that guy. Now when you go against everything 710 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: that you told us who you are, it's like, now 711 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: we lost all faith in you, you know what I mean, 712 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: street wise, and this is who you built your shit on. 713 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: This is why Jezu's Jesus, because who you are and 714 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: what you've been doing, you know what I mean. So 715 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, you know what I mean, 716 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: But I know the people I'll be around and the 717 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: type of people I'll be with. They just not feeling 718 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: that shit yeah, just on the street side, I feel 719 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: like I have to do that, you know, no, I 720 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: think I just think that both. There's like the street 721 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: side of the coin where it's like, yeah, like come on, 722 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: someone died, you don't ever do that. And then they're like, hey, 723 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: look well obviously Jeez hasn't been that guy for so long. 724 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: But it don't even mean if you're that guy now, 725 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: you done brought all these extra feelings up that was 726 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: already like that man, that that's rest in peace. He 727 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: got a kid, he got a son, you know what 728 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he got family and all Thatshi over there 729 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: talking about smoking on that pack and come on, that 730 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: Gucci is the biggest nigga. You know what I'm saying. 731 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: All you did was you you you put Gucci like this. 732 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: You should have you man, you you should have just retired, bro, 733 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: when you said you was gonna retire three four years ago, 734 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Like we don't. We don't need all this extra shit 735 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: you you think you try and do, go get married, 736 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: go with your girl and all that, and y'all go 737 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: do what y'all doing. Get out the way. Basically in 738 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: the way, bro, get out the way. You know what 739 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh yeah, yeah, I thought from just from 740 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: a fan's perspective, I was, man, I was watching that 741 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: ship in the dark, like, what the fuck, bro? You 742 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: let that ride? You know what I'm saying, and you 743 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: come out with the BMF shirt on and all that, Like, man, 744 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: I don't even them niggas don't even like you, bro, 745 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: Like what you trying? I do? We feel me? I 746 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: don't understand this. You know he was he was reaching, 747 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, whatever, So you 748 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: got your new album out, uh, Masters in Mind, which 749 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: is it's like, is it eight or nine songs A song? 750 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: A songs? Yeah? It feels like are you and Freddie 751 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: joint project? I mean it's really basically right basically yeah, 752 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: you know he's not on two of them. Uh yeah, yeah, 753 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: he only on six, right, So he's on six out 754 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: of eight. Yeah, and I was the album's fire good looking, 755 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: good look what like obviously relationship is so strong. He's 756 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: had such a crazy yeah yeah the last two years. Yeah, 757 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: I ain't surprised. I think he came out of that 758 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: jail situation, Craze. I think to the fact that we 759 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: were I think, you know, I told people like the 760 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: pandemic made made the world listen to rap music differently 761 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: because we ain't standing on couches, We ain't at the 762 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: club popping bottles. Now you're listening in your headphones, yeah, 763 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: or you're listening in the car. In the car, and 764 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: so when you listen that way, you're like, it's a 765 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: different way of listening to music. Right. So that's when 766 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: it's like you see those Grammy nominations and it's Royce 767 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: to five nine. I never thought of it like that, 768 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's nas and it's just like, oh shit, it's 769 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of real rap shit, rap shit. Yeah. And 770 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: you know fred Fred went from bandana to man he 771 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: afraid of right, No, no, no, no, for sure. But 772 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: I just mean, like twenty nineteen to twenty twenties, like crazy, 773 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: but like how dope has it been to like just 774 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: watch his last year two years? Shit, it's inspiring. I'll 775 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: be motivated, you know what I mean. Yeah, you go 776 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: crazy when your friends just motivate you. I ain't gotta 777 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: go look at no strangers. You know, you can go 778 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: around the corner to the house and he'll he'll bust 779 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: a rap play. Damn you just did that, Okay, then 780 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: go in the studio and rap like he just dropped 781 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: that ship. He probably like fox five songs in on 782 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: a new project already later and uh, the big boss 783 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: rappit shit he recorded like the day or two days 784 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: after the Grammy. Yeah, and it's already out. Video shot. Yeah, 785 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: we shot the video like I was there. I caught 786 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 1: up for a second and my wife was My wife 787 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: was banging on me, So I was like, guys, I 788 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: was like, look, I gotta go. So he work works, 789 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: so that'd be inspiring me. You know what I mean, 790 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: that ship even if he like this, you know what 791 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm right here and I'm trying to get there. 792 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: I gotta work at least twice as hard as he 793 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: is to get to eat where he at, you know 794 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So did you ever consider because I 795 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: feel like you've you know, you opened your store and 796 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: you've kind of like helped with some younger artists. Have 797 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: you ever gotten to the point where you're like, Yo, 798 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this rap shit for fun if it 799 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: works out, cool, But like you're on, I feel like 800 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: I've just noticed you more as like doing boss shit, 801 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: doing community the shit, doing like you know, what I mean, 802 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: like and then like we get an album from you 803 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh shit, yeah, this shit. I think. 804 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: I think everything is built from the music. You know, 805 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: everything comes from the music. That's what Perico be telling 806 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: me all the time. He like, yeah, man, you know 807 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. This this is but everything everything 808 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: starts here is the music. We can do all this. 809 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: It is even the reason that I can bring people 810 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: to the store. Well, I got this big this this 811 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: fucking franchise. I mean not franchise, but this Landmark restaurant 812 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: next door to me, right, But that's like maybe forty 813 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: five fifty percent of my clientele. And the other people 814 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: you bring to other people is from rap music, from Instagram, 815 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: from who I am pulling up and they're like, oh shit, 816 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: we gotta go to his store. All of this is 817 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: from the rap, you know what I mean. But I 818 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: can fall back on the rap, and I can still 819 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: stay relevant because of the store and the ship that 820 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm throwing, and I can bring the younger artists in 821 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: and have pop ups. I can still be the guy 822 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: and bust these moves and stay relevant with content without 823 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: even dropping music. But it's still all revolves back to 824 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: the music. I'm saying, it's all gonna come back to 825 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: the music, So I gotta keep dropping, you know what 826 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean. And it's just the passion and the checks 827 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna come every month. It's like ship income, and yeah, 828 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: keep on rapping and dropping because it's easy. This is 829 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: when you think so fucking hard, like what we were 830 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: saying about those other artists, like you can't be sitting 831 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: here waiting nine years to drop a project, talk about 832 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: like how to get my money, right, I got it, 833 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: I got it. I mean, it's prime examples of a 834 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: certain artists I've watched it. You didn't need no money, 835 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: you need no money, like like Gucci and him. Day man, 836 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: Rouchie worked instead of money. He worked out, hustled everybody's studio, 837 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: five studio sessions a day, busting versus down. He didn't 838 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: have to spend no money because he he just outworked everybody. Now, Ruccie, 839 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to Rouccie because you know you 840 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: part of his his come up. Rouccie. I think the 841 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: first record I heard of him was lean like a 842 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: trollo ship Oh yeah, yeah, damn, you was just getting 843 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: up on him on it. Yeah yeah, I was crazy. 844 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that was crazy. And uh I was like, 845 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: oh this Ship is yeah tight like some of the 846 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: remixed Yeah yeah that record. You know, but uh, how 847 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: did you how did you meet Ruccie? And like kind 848 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: of what you're involved in Rucci because obviously he's on 849 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: your Rouchie Daddy is my big homie, like Big Taco, 850 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: my big homie. He raised me in the streets from 851 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: when I was like thirteen, you know what I'm saying, 852 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: until Ship he went to jail, you know what I mean. 853 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: So now he's in Mexico, right, Yeah, he in Mexico. 854 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: Now he got deported. So so I known Rouchie and 855 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: Angels since they was little baby squeeze a babysit them, 856 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 1: you know what i mean. Make sure they don't drive 857 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: to go running in the driveway and Ship, you know 858 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I've been knowing him as a 859 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: but then he kind of moved away for like four 860 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: or five years. And when he came back, I think 861 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: Sean Mack brought him in. I was my little brother, 862 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: rest in peace, you know what I'm saying. He brought 863 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: him in the studio one like I got mintioned in here. Man, 864 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: come on, bro Taco tripping, I got him hanging with us. 865 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, he went in there and dropped the 866 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: verse and I was like, damn, I'm roochie nigga. You 867 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: feel me. I'm like okay. And then ever since that 868 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: one verse, he just been boom boom boom boom grinding. 869 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: And then I feel like when the homie Sean died, 870 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: he he just just that ship just me with me. 871 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: When he passed, it just had me like I ain't 872 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: gonna say, like under a rock, I ain't had no 873 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: motivation to do nothing. It affected him the other way 874 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: affected him if it affected him like different, he just 875 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: the soul of him just came out and he was 876 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: like both of them rapping on songs. So he had 877 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: the aggression, the the the word play and everything all 878 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: in the song, everything that Sean had, and he just 879 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: added fuel to the flame, you know what I'm saying. 880 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: And he and it's just the work ethic, not him 881 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: to where he I'm saying where he at now? Who 882 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're really tapped in with the scene 883 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: out here. Who are some of the young la guys 884 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: that you're a fan of that you're you know, you're 885 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: fucking with fuck with Slumlord, you know from the Jungles 886 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: infant like Hey Riches, out of content. Who else I've 887 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: been listening to fuck with Chike, Yeah, off top, that's 888 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: that's like my playlist. Do you feel like because I 889 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: feel like, Uh, historically in l A, you know, because 890 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: of politics, a lot of uh there, there wasn't a 891 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: big sad funck with Big too big Sad. We talk 892 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: some ship, but but you know there's always politics in 893 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: l A, right, And I feel like throughout the years, 894 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: LA has probably been one of the more segregated hip 895 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: hop communities when it comes to like just the perception 896 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: of people not like doing you know, not fucking with 897 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: each other all the way. Like we always hear like Atlanta, 898 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: everyone's together, they all rock. But I feel like this 899 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: new j look like that shit out of town. But 900 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: fus don't be together though, right, But but they'd be 901 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: getting on each other's records. You know, it's crazy. But 902 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: in LA, this new generation, it feels like there's a 903 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: lot of camaraderie. You'll hear like one take Jay with Ruccie, 904 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: or you'll hear like, you know, I just feel like 905 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: I always hear everyone on each other. Shit. Now it 906 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: is like the new excuse me, like the new Like 907 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: it's it's different, but it's different in the good way. 908 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: I remember when I was growing up, like shit, to 909 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 1: even bust through, you had to be Snoop Dogg affiliated 910 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, whether you was a gang 911 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: member or not, blood or crip or whatever, you had 912 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: to come through that channel to get on. You had 913 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: to come through that channel or the DRE channel. I mean, 914 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: the Snoop Dogg is the DRE channel. No, no, no, 915 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: that's some that's some crazy shit because I remember talking 916 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: to Nipsey in like twenty ten when he was not 917 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: fucking with Dre. I mean, but you still he went 918 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: to Snoop Dogg. No no, but but but I remember, like, 919 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: think about I mean, you were a part of this 920 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: air nobody in my era, Glasses Malone, think about. But 921 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying that, I'm not. I'm not talking about that. 922 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about there was that whole era of LA 923 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: rappers that just kind of got shunned by the It 924 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: was it was Glasses, it was it was j Rock, 925 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: it was it was it was Nipsy, you know, Rocket 926 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: you know yourself, Like there was like all these There 927 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 1: was like this scene in LA that almost like the 928 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: gate keepers quote unquote, you had to go through like Ignored, 929 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: to go to go through Snoop or doctor Dre to 930 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: be like you know what I mean, to get solidified. 931 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: That's why other motherfuckers start going out to g Z 932 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: and Rough Riders, g Unit and ship like that, because 933 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: it was like, wasn't nobody here trying to put nobody 934 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: on yep, And then I think the only thing I 935 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: mean obviously Dre. I mean, Kendrick's a perfect example once 936 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: that Drake Co sign happened, just ship change. I'm not 937 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: saying Kendrick wouldn't have been great anyways, it's all time great, 938 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: but like that, but yeah, when the when it was 939 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: like this, he became great though, it was like this. 940 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: So was that before Good Kid Mad City? Now? That 941 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 1: was now, that was after that was before section eighty. 942 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: It was before after section eight before oh yeah, it 943 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: was before section Remember that Key Club he had that 944 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: watching Yeah yeah when Game Game officially passed the torch. Yeah, 945 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: it was uh and then he had that watch out 946 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: for Detox freestyle, yeah, which is crazy. And then he 947 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: just went out of here. He just became the elite 948 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, And it's crazy because at the time 949 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: it was like like I was real tight with Nipsey 950 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: at that time, and it was like Nipsey was putting 951 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: so much work and game props the game because Game 952 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: gave a lot of people looks at that during that time, 953 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying that I don't think 954 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: so you don't think so. I mean, I know Game 955 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: put he put. He put nip on the road with 956 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: on the Lax tour and j Rock Like I'm seeing 957 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: like you know he had Glasses on on on Black 958 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: Wall Street and ship Like I just think that was 959 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: on Black Wall Street. He was, Yeah, I ain't know that. Yeah, 960 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: the Glasses put me on a word. What the people 961 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: that that that that solidified me out here when I 962 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: was trying to have my CDs on me was these 963 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: are people that I still talk to to this I 964 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: talked to Glasses once a week. We argue about rap music. 965 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: Mitchie Slick, Rock and mister Fab. These guys was the 966 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: ones that like Mitchie Slick would be like, hey, bro, 967 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: it is you need to be here. We'll bring all 968 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: your CDs. Oh you can't, I'm gonna fly you out 969 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: you don't believe it, I'm gonna fly you out. Oh 970 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: you go stay at my spot in the bay and 971 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: record with these people. And Da da Da Glasses was 972 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: doing Hey, come to my show. I ain't doing no 973 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: show unless this one head was Glasses dja Hey, Yeah, 974 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: to eleven need to be on my show too, when 975 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: everybody was paying to remember all you used to do 976 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: all that, when you have to pay yeah, no to eleven. 977 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: If he not behind me, he need to be the 978 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 1: second one after that person needed to be rapping. Wooo, 979 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 1: mister fab oh come whatever. Whatever you to eleven need, 980 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: he got it, and I was nobody. Bro was just 981 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: inglewood gang banger. You feel me with a chain, you 982 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I could barely even wraps 983 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: one of the realists, man, Yeah, Glasses was pull up 984 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: in my hood in the dirty Bentley jumping out with 985 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: a pro club on like, yeah, what we doing? He's 986 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: like hip hop skip baylists on Twitter. That motherfucker got 987 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: some wild hip hop opinions. Yeah he do though, and 988 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: comes up. Oh and another person that embraced me was 989 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: in Terrence Smarten. So these these are the guys that 990 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: I that was his studio two doors over for a while, 991 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: that was where he used to be at. Yeah. Yeah, 992 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: seeing these are people that embraced me in my beginning. 993 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I that I don't 994 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: forget this type of ship, you know what I mean? 995 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: So can't nobody tell me nothing about none of these people. 996 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: Mitchie Slick was still is a very underrated I mean, 997 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: I love strong arm Steady all that shit. Like I 998 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: would listen to his music before I even met him, 999 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 1: and he became like I would call, I call him 1000 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: a big homie, you know what I'm saying, Like I 1001 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: don't think he gets enough flowers. Man, No he don't, 1002 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: But I mean in my book he do because I 1003 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 1: tell anybody, and these these people that I just named 1004 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: are the guys or my guys that that pulled me 1005 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: in when niggas wasn't pulling nobody in. Tell me. Everybody 1006 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: was like, no, no, you'll figure it out type shit, 1007 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But didn't have enough to 1008 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: be like I'm gonna put you on right right right, 1009 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,479 Speaker 1: but they just push you over there trying to help. Yeah, 1010 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: And wasn't nobody trying to do that, especially back then, 1011 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: like that was out, you know what I'm saying. Then 1012 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it was definitely out. Yeah, so yeah, 1013 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: it was. It was just yeah, that timing was different too, 1014 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: because LA ain't have a sound, you know what I'm saying. 1015 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: They ain't had no sound. Everything was out of town, 1016 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then yeah, I think 1017 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: that YG and that Mustard and no, I think definitely 1018 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: I think like that kicked it off for the new LA. 1019 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: I think yeah, it was that that what was that 1020 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: twenty ten, twenty eleven, twelve, Yeah, really we was on it, 1021 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: but really it don't matter what we was on. It 1022 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: just matters what everybody else like when you leave, because 1023 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: it's it seemed like it was like Game was the 1024 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 1: guy in l A for a point in time where 1025 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: it felt like a long time only guy in l 1026 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: A nationally. Yeah, and then once that YG Mustard thing happened, 1027 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: it was over. But it took out of town niggas 1028 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 1: to be like that, Oh yeah, that's l A. We've 1029 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 1: been listening to that ship, you know what I'm saying 1030 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: for at least four years before that. It took for 1031 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: them to be like my nigga, My nigga with Rich 1032 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: Kwan and GZ on there, and it took Giz to 1033 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, this this is him R I P 1034 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: R I P and then just to set the whole 1035 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: ship on fire. And this is what it is. You 1036 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: know that era when it was like Tiger was doing 1037 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: Rack City City. I'm different, bro, I'm different to change 1038 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: when he did that with Mustard, yep, it was like 1039 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: League Stars and Mustard they had the beats that were 1040 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: like and that era just just set it set the 1041 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: tone for And now we have the new LA sound 1042 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: where you hear some ship and you'll be like that 1043 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: sounds like some l a ship. But it's like now 1044 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 1: now it's so Mustard Legua Star re rocked, you feel me. 1045 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: So anything that was hot back then ain't gonna be 1046 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: really like hot right now is just re rocked and remixed. 1047 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, you put the just 1048 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: like the Trap ship, you know what I mean. I 1049 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: remember when Lex Luger, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was hot 1050 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: and Lex Luger kicked off that sound. And now it's 1051 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: all and now Mike will Metro booming and they are 1052 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: all sons of that early Yeah, it's all re rocked, 1053 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: you feel me? So that's some crazy Ship. Yeah, well, look, 1054 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: your album is out. You already got a video out 1055 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: with the Rouccie and I got two videos out. I 1056 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: got another play with me Quincy White and Freddy Shout 1057 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: to Quincy. Quincy's dope. He's been around for a long 1058 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: time too. Yeah. Yeah, he was a part of that 1059 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 1: time in two Yeah. What was his old rap name, 1060 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: Dub Dub Yeah yeah, oh my god, dubh And then 1061 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: we got and then I got the one I topped down. 1062 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: I just put out, uh Cypress, did the be to cypressman? 1063 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 1: I got Cypress? Uh yeah, with Roochie and Freddy on now, 1064 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: so you know shot by my boy HDT Movies and 1065 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: your store man, shout out your store, Yeah, the level 1066 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,919 Speaker 1: Up Store. You know, y'all can follow follow the level 1067 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: Up Store. Where's that Instagram? Just everyone sitting ella next 1068 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: to the service spoon in Inglewood? Okay? Yeah? How is 1069 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: it being in Inglewood now that it's quote unquote being 1070 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: gentrified a bit with the arenas and shit, I'm really 1071 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: like two miles away from it from the arena, so 1072 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: they ain't really go up on me like that, you 1073 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it can't hurt the property value, right, yeah, yeah, no, 1074 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: it's it's smooth though. I like it. Do you think, like, like, 1075 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: do you look at that as like a positive thing 1076 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: because it's like a good and a bad side to it. Yeah, 1077 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I look at it now and 1078 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, back in the day, it was just 1079 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: spray painted everywhere. Shit was raggedy niggas hanging out on 1080 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: every corner and the street, and now it's just cleaned up. 1081 00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: Then turned ship into Lax Jason and all that little 1082 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: ship Westchester you know looking type ship, but it's still inglewood. 1083 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: But you know it's like out of town ers, like 1084 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, like white people walking down the street like 1085 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: dogs and ship. It's just crazy. It's is different, but 1086 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: it's for the good. Like, how long this ship supposed 1087 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 1: to be fucked up and we're supposed to be out 1088 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: here in the fucked up environment. If y'all got the 1089 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: money to fix this up, let's do it. Do the 1090 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: Clippers get any brownie points for being there? Like, because 1091 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: obviously everyone hates the Clippers and everyone loves the Lakers, 1092 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: but like, do you like it should be mad at 1093 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers because the Lakers ran ran off and left. 1094 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: They did they have to Stable Center down town. I 1095 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: don't even know where the Clippers supposed to be playing 1096 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 1: at though, I think they're in Inglewood. They not this year, no, no, 1097 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: no, no no, not this year. No no no no. I think 1098 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: I think whether it's two years or next year, they're 1099 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna be they're supposed to be, yeah, doing the Century 1100 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,959 Speaker 1: and Prairie. I heard shure. I mean it's crazy because 1101 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: I never thought like, I didn't get the whole like 1102 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: hate in LA until I moved here, and I'm like, yo, people, 1103 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 1: really why I even know why they hate the Clippers. 1104 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: They don't funk with the Clippers. I'm like dog back, 1105 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: how good? So I like the Lakers. I'm a Lebron 1106 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: hater on court, you feel me. I fuck with him 1107 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: off the court, but on court, I'm a Lebron hater 1108 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: because I root for the underdog and then they just 1109 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: be Yeah. So I'm a I'm a Laker hater and 1110 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: Lebron hater. I've been a Laker hater for years, but 1111 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm a Lebron lover, so I had to both sides 1112 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: of me. I go for the underdog though, man all y'all, man, 1113 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: Lebron Lebron, the Lakers, the Lakers like Lebron my favorite player, 1114 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: but I'm a Suns fan. So my whole life I 1115 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: hated the Lakers. So when he came to the Lakers, 1116 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: I had to come to a business decision to like 1117 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 1: put my Laker hate away and say, you know what, 1118 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: Lebron's on the Lakers Now. As long as he's on 1119 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: the team, I'm gonna just root for him. Damn. I' 1120 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna wait to playoff time. I'm gonna go up on 1121 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 1: you. You You got Chris Paul at the the Suns. I'm finish. 1122 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: Start going for the Suns. Hey, we're good number two 1123 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: in the West right now? How is it we you 1124 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: were supposed to be al I'm not a Laker fan. 1125 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm a Lebron fan. But if the Sons and the 1126 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 1: Lakers play, I'm working with the Suns. I've been the Sons. 1127 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: You used to be a Suns fan. Think about how 1128 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: shitty the Sons have been so my life long since 1129 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: night so my all my like, I mean, no, we 1130 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: had that room with National Mari and you know we 1131 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: was relevant up until about twenty ten. But I've just 1132 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 1: I've attached myself to Lebron. Yeah, the last fifteen years 1133 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, so it's like, okay, I love the Suns, 1134 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: but we really ain't been ship for man to damn good. 1135 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: I just, I just I think he's the underdog in 1136 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: the sense that like he's playing on Michael Jordan's shadow. 1137 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: So he might not be Kobe's shadow, not Michael Jordan's. 1138 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: He's past Kobe. What come on, man, what is he 1139 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: talking about? Nobody could never be good as Kobe Bro? 1140 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: I think Kobe Jordan bro Let me let me, let 1141 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: me tell you why you're wrong. Let me tell you 1142 00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: what you're wrong. All right, Shack leaves you remember he 1143 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: went how many more? Check? Wait? One? But let me explain. 1144 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: Let me explain. It was two? Now he played he 1145 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 1: won one more? Butt me? No, no, how many Kobe win? Wait? 1146 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: Wait okay, Shack left Kobe for two years, couldn't get 1147 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers were the eight seed. So the two years 1148 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: after Shaq went to Miami, the Lakers were the eight seed. Okay, 1149 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,720 Speaker 1: this is when he quote unquote had no help. Okay, 1150 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: he never had wait what you mean, what O'Neil? No, 1151 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying he okay, after Wight never had help. Al 1152 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 1: Gasol and Andrew Biden was an All Star center Andrew 1153 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 1: Man of the Year. Just say, Andrew, can we check 1154 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: out them? Andrew? Andrew Biden was a bum when he left. 1155 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: He was a bum when he was there, wing Like, 1156 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: can you're telling me he wasn't a starter? He was 1157 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: a seven five fucking center with that being seven five 1158 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: and four hundred pounds those two years. Yeah, that Kobe 1159 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: had literally nobody right. He couldn't even get the Lakers 1160 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 1: out of the first round of the playoffs. Now, rewind 1161 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: On in five had Eric snow was his starting point 1162 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: guy Jianyelle Marshall was the starting small forward and he 1163 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: was like fifty and he took them to the finals 1164 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,439 Speaker 1: against the Spurs with no help. Koffee. Yeah, they didn't 1165 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: go to no championship. Bro. They played the Spurs and 1166 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: the Spurs waxed them. But they beat the Pistons in 1167 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals. In the year before that, the 1168 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: Pistons won the Ring. So my thing is and with 1169 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: no way he beat the He beat the defending champions 1170 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference finals. No, they beat the Lake. 1171 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: The Pistons beat the Lakers in the finals the year before, 1172 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: but they had a different team, Bro, No, they did it. 1173 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: It was the same starting five, Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton. No, 1174 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: the Pistons beat the Lakers when they had Gary Payton, 1175 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: Karl Malone. Yes, listen, I'm a basketball fanatic. So with 1176 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: that being said, when Lebron has had no help in 1177 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: his career, he's always been in the motherfucking mix, I 1178 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: mean championships. He won though, listen, hen he gonna be 1179 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: fine because he was all the built teams, so he 1180 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: was good. Bro. He went against the Warriors, the greatest 1181 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: team ever assembled. He had a simple team to hold on. 1182 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: Let's let's get to the Warriors. Because the Warriors, he's 1183 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: just all genuine good players. They wasn't put together. Kevin Durant. 1184 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant had one time he played for them one time. 1185 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: He played for them for three years for three seasons, 1186 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: but he played twice when they won. He played three 1187 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: years with them, though he ruined the NBA for three years. 1188 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: He ruined the NBA. KD damn. Now that's what put 1189 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: together team they got in Brooklyn right now, that ship's 1190 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: crazy super salary. If they don't win the fucking ring, 1191 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: you feel me like, God, damn, how where they getting 1192 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: this money from? Bruh. It's crazy. They just got the 1193 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: Mark LaMarcus Griffin, Like, how did they do that? Where 1194 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: they getting this money from? Because he got aught out 1195 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: and they signed for the veteran minimum. He played for 1196 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: free pretty much the same thing were playing. He got 1197 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: paid it. They paid him out. I don't know, but yeah, 1198 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: get on that team, like, let me play. I got 1199 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: to fuck with Kobe, but he ain't fucking with Lebron. 1200 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: Come on, man. That's the one thing I think that 1201 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 1: we were we were unfortunately never privileged to see was 1202 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: the Kobe Lebron finals. Yeah yeah, but see it's the 1203 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: age difference though now. But you know, if you think 1204 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: about those years, it was the year it should have happened. 1205 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: Was the year the Magic beat the Cavaliers in the 1206 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals, and that was the year that Kobe 1207 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: played Dwight Howard in the finals and the Lakers won. 1208 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: That was the year it should have been Lebron versus Kobe. 1209 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: The other year it was eight and that was when 1210 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: the Celtics had the Big three that they assembled when 1211 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: they got KG. That team took the Cavaliers out because 1212 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: Lebron had no help. But that's the one thing I 1213 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: wish we would have saw was Kobe versus Lebron in 1214 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: the finals. We never got that because if you think 1215 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: about like Jordans, we saw all of the Jordan battles 1216 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: we wanted to see going up Like he went against 1217 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Magic in ninety one. Yeah, he went up against the 1218 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,919 Speaker 1: Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals three years in a row. 1219 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: He went up against the Celtics. He went up against 1220 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: all these dudes like he had battles with you, Like 1221 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: he went up against Barkley in ninety three. Yeah, you 1222 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that was That was when I 1223 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: was a fucking Sons fan. Oh yeah, I didn't even 1224 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: go up but he went up against Barkley. But he 1225 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: didn't win that game. You know who won that game? 1226 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 1: John Paxson. On fucking Paxson. I hate that motherfucker. Right there, 1227 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying I had the whole I was like Kevin Johnson, 1228 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: fakyj kJ, duntan kJ. Look at my poster right there, 1229 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: look back there. One oh one was like one of 1230 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: the I had the crackhead on y'all team. Richard Dumas. Yeah, 1231 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: feel me, that was my year though, Rightchard Dumas was 1232 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: smoking rocks as a rookie balling those is starting. Oh, 1233 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: my starter on crack, real crack. My man was a 1234 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 1: rookie smoking crack. He was real though. He was out 1235 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: there serving. They had a team, bro, they had Hey, 1236 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 1: they had a team. I have never been to Phoenix before, 1237 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: but I was. I don't even know how I even 1238 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: became a Phoenix son. And we had Dan Marley and Marley, 1239 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Danny Ain, Oliver Manning, Danny Man, Danny Manning. Oh, they 1240 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: had a squad with Barkley. I don't know who the 1241 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: big man was. We had a Mark West, Oliver Miller, 1242 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Oliver Miller, Nick hold On who was shooting 1243 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: them threes? Dann Marley was was was lights out? It 1244 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: was Rex Chapman. Yeah. They had Rex Chapman though too. 1245 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: They had a squad. Yeah, look man, thank you for 1246 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: pulling up. Look at the album. Check out the store 1247 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Mastermind out now you feel me Boom