1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: We're back. Welcome in to the best podcast available. It 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: is Gibbs. It is Gribbs, it is Shook, it it 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: is training Camp. We were here in the spring. We 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: did a little draft talk for about two and a 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: half months. We got through it, and then they wanted 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: to bring us back, and so we're back for training camp. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: We go to training camp as the b p A 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be a lot busier, Like we spread 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: them out a little bit in the draft season, but 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: there's actually gonna be stuff to talk about every day. 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest, games we were we were 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: reaching on content by the end of Best podcast Sailable 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Draft version, Like it was. It was tough. I mean, 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't it of all years to start a draft 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: podcast in Cleveland. It was not the year, correct it 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: It was actually I believe it was right after our 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: first episode, maybe the first couple episode. Yeah, we got 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: through the combine. Yeah, you know, we got through the 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: combine and we were still kind of like, okay, well 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: in the top ten. We gotta figure it out, and 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: then we traded for Odell and then we had to 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: figure out what the heck we were going to talk 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: about for a good six seven weeks. But the brand 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: is strong and that's why the name is staying. The 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: suits have told us bring back the best podcast, and 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: I said my comparison, I keep making we are basically 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: the same thing as ESPN, even when they came to 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: an end, they had to still use even though it 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: didn't make direct So we're sticking with best Podcasts plus like. 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Even though it's a play on a draft term, it's 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: also truth. We are the best podcast available. Yes, I 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: like to think we are, and we're gonna be think 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: we're putting out a good thing for the people. We're 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna be very available over the next month. We are 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: This is the first of twenty five episodes. We're going 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: to force feed you the best podcast. Can't hide from us, No, 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: did not hide from us. We are literally going to 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: come to you every day to recap the day that 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: was out in Barria, Ohio, Indianapolis, Indiana, UH, all over 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: the place, downtown Cleveland, Ohio. You know, we'll have a 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: podcast after every training camp practice. We'll have a podcast 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: after the Origin Brown scrimmage. UH. A number of things 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: that will keep you post on national guests, players, coaches, 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: front office people, Jim Donovan, Nathan's a girl will join us. 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: We'll have a little fun, I'll come up with some 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: more stupid games, and we'll do a training camp podcast 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: every day. It'll be out late day unless we practice 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: late in the afternoon, in which case, you know, we'll 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: keep you posted when it comes out, but our goal 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: is to put it out to every day for your 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: drive home or for your drive into work the following morning, 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: you can count on listening to our soothing voices tell 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: you about the latest from all things Cleveland Browns. Because 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: we know that not everybody's gonna be able to make 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: it here, but we'll be here and we'll be here 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: to relay the information to you, you know, speaking of that, 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: practices obviously are sold out. Yes, Origin Brown Scrimmage, Plenty 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: of good seats available, five dollars. All the proceeds benefit 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Foundation Get the School campaign to encourage 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: school attendance so kids can succeed. Saturday, August three, four 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: pm to six pm. For those of you that didn't 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: get training camp tickets, good news, there's a building down 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: on the lakefront that's got about sixty seats available for this. 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good show. I mean, I think 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: that it's it's gonna be more maybe of a practice field, 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: but it's still gonna be kind of a scrimmage out there. 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: And it's the first time you get to see Odell 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Beckham inside First Energy Stadium. Gonna be pretty amazing, to 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: say the least. Week, we are just hours away from 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: being able to see Odell Beckham on the practice field 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: in full gear as a member of the Cleveland Browns 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: and the two thousand nineteen Cleveland Browns. So as we 73 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: get ready to start this two thousand nineteen campaign, guys, 74 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: what are your emotions, what are you feeling, and what 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: do you what do you think of this training camp 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: to be here. You know, as much as I love 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the summer and the vacation that we get in the 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: time we get to spend away from this facility, it's 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: since I've been here, easily the most excitement anticipation that 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: has ever been for a Bronze training camp in the 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: last five or six years. And really you gotta go 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: back maybe twenty thirty years to when it reached this 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: kind of anticipation, and I just think it's gonna you 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: always have a lot of national people here even when 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: this team was owned sixteen, you still get a good 86 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: amount of national people dropping in, uh, largely because the 87 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. People stop here on their way 88 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame game. But this is gonna 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: be a different beast, and I think with that comes 90 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of exposure and it's also going to bring 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: about a lot of scrutiny that I think people are 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to get used to. But ultimately, what is 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: going to come of this training camp is it's going 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: to be different from the previous years and that we're 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: not going to be spending a ton of time talking 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: about these roster spots that are available because there's not 97 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: many available. I mean, we're just gonna be analyzing what 98 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: the really good players are doing out there and then 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: getting more and more excited for regular season. So it's 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a hyper focused training camp, but it's gonna 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: be almost like there's less focus on the actual on 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: field happenings as people fight for roster spots because there's 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: just aren't many battles right now, and I think the 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: battles that are there are going to yield a reward 105 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: UH quality player no matter who it is. Whereas in 106 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: years past, we might have been hoping, fingers crossed that 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: maybe someone's gonna rise up and surprise us. Now we 108 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: don't need to bank on that, which I think is 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna be very good, But I also think it's gonna 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: be intense. You know, this is Freddy kitchens first training camp, 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's, uh, he's gonna take it 112 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: light on these guys because you know, as they emphasize 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: in the letter that went out the season ticket holders yesterday, uh, 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: they're forged in these camps. You know that this is 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: when they're made, both as players and as a team. 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: And the work towards that starts this week. Freddie Kitchens 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: does become the seventeenth full time coach in Cleveland Brown's history. 118 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: No pressure, but you arguably have the best roster since 119 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the team was here in the mid nineties. I think 120 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: one would have to argue make the argument. I think 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: it's on paper there's more talent because I think that 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: team that was a defensive identity team and had some 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl players on it, but the star power wasn't 124 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: on the level that this is right now, and even 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: the team in two thousand and eight, coming off of 126 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the oh, seven ten and six season didn't really have 127 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback didn't didn't have I mean it did, but 128 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback that it had proved himself to be more 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: You struggle with the confidence because of what had happened 130 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: at the last couple of games of the season exactly. 131 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: And then you also looked at that team which was 132 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: more veteran leaden, which had kind of benefited from a 133 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: softer edule, and was guys that were kind of getting 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: that last good year out of their career before they 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: came down. And this is the exact opposite. You have 136 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: a very young and talented team. You have a first 137 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: time head coach who has a rapport established with a 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: young and very talented quarterback, and you added more pieces 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: around him for for him to work with. So I 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: think there's only room for optimism here. How much pressure 141 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: is on Freddie Kitchens, I mean no more or no 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: less than any other head coach I think around the 143 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. I just think he's gonna be. As I've 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: brought up a lot of times over the last couple months, 145 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: he is the target of maybe the national media in 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: terms of what is the the make or break hinge 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: point on this team, and it would seem like a 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: daunting task for a first year head coach to inherit 149 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: a roster like this with all the personalities and all 150 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: the expectations. But I think we all agree that he 151 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: doesn't seem, uh, even a little worried about his ability 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: to handle this job. And I think all of us 153 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: agree that he seems perfectly suited for the job, So 154 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: he's less that's less of a concerned. I think locally 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a big national storyline that's not 156 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: going to go away until you play some games. I 157 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: think it's strange because you know, he is the first 158 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: time head coach, but you know, like Gribble said that 159 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: there's there's not really a sense of I'm in over 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: my head or I don't know what I'm doing here 161 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: at all, because he does have a lot of experience 162 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: as an assistant under many different head coaches in many 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: different situations. And I think that that experience, while he 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been at the top and you know, in in 165 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: the driver's seat before, I think that, uh, it definitely 166 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: has benefited him in this offseason and in preparation for 167 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: all of this. And I think he's also got a 168 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: good staff around him has really helped him with this transition, 169 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: and and they seem, you know, comfortable, but also very 170 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: not anxious, but just ready to go. So much made 171 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: of can he handle the personalities? Is it a story 172 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: that maybe isn't a story. Yeah, I think it's not 173 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: a story. I mean, I get I get why it 174 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: is a story, but I'm it's just not a concern 175 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: from it because I think he's already shown an ability. 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: The first off, his relationship with the quarterback is the 177 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: most important, and Clue those two get along very well. 178 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Him and Baker Mayfield are kind of cuts from the 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: same cloth. I mean, that's that's the most important one 180 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: that he has to forge, especially with his role as 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: a play caller for this offense. And I think a 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: lot of the other stuff. It's a coach's role to 183 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: kind of help when their situations arise. But this is 184 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: one of those situations where a locker room can kind 185 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: of police itself with those personalities. This is an older 186 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: roster compared to years past, and you have some legitimate 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: leaders on this team that can manage those personalities. That 188 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: so even when there's issues, it doesn't even reach the 189 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: level of the head coach, the locker room can kind 190 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: of order that around, where in previous years we've had 191 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: some some not not the best guys and there wasn't 192 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: the internal policing because you had a younger team. I 193 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: think people have seen that here, and I think people 194 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: also kind of hold what had happened to Odell in 195 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: New York against the Browns unfairly um because you know, 196 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: he's a passionate player and and might have you know, 197 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: had some explosions on the sideline here there. But even then, 198 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: his teammates there, for the most part, loved him. And 199 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be an issue. But 200 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I think it people are often referring to Odell when 201 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: they talk about all the personalities, and because he's the 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: largest personality of all of them. But I don't think 203 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be an issue. I think it's also 204 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: a non story, and I think it'll go away fairly quickly. 205 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: We'll have to hear about it for all of training 206 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: camp because we have to, you know, hear other people 207 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: talk about this team as they make their stops here 208 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and as they become a topic of discussion, you know, 209 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: day in and day out through this entire process. But 210 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: I think once we get to the regular season and 211 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: you get about a month in, it'll finally go away, hopefully. 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: So much is made of the embarrassment of riches on 213 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football. It's been talked about 214 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: for the last five months, but defensively, uh And you 215 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: started to hear Freddie chirp about it a little bit 216 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: during Mini camp and some of the other coaches on 217 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football and even the defensive 218 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: side of the football. There's a lot of talent on 219 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: that defensive side of the football that we haven't really 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: gotten a chance to see because the pads weren't allowed 221 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: to be on and you weren't allowed to hit, and 222 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: you weren't allowed to tackle. And I think it's gonna 223 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: be pretty exciting to see how that plays out as 224 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: a storyline here. Yeah, And it's interesting because I think 225 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: if you look at the matchups in camp, you almost 226 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: like the defensive line versus the offensive line is going 227 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: to be a good one. And I almost give the 228 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: advantage to the defense right now because if you have 229 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: four proven, really good players on that defensive line, and 230 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: I think that the acquisition of Olivia Vernon was obviously 231 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: so overshadowed by Odell Beckham understandably, but that's a huge 232 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: addition for this defense that will, in theory, take Miles 233 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Garrett's game to another level, even when it was set 234 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: to go to another level no matter who was on 235 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: that side, because you would think a third year for 236 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: a player like him, this is when it really starts 237 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: to click. So it's it's defensive line, you're in great shape. 238 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: I think defensive backfield during fantastic shape. It's the middle 239 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: and linebackers where those are the question marks right now, 240 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: And I think that that's that's maybe what's given people 241 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: cause for concern because it's it's harder on offense to 242 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: identify an area, uh where you have that many question marks. 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: But defensively, this team is in really good shape. It's 244 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: just a matter of are you going to get see 245 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: part one of last season's defense where the turnovers we 246 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: were getting forced like crazy, or is it part two 247 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: where the defense was maybe it was all right, but 248 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: there were some some games there were some issues out there. 249 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: I also think that this is gonna be a nasty group. 250 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: And I say that. When I say that, I mean 251 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: the level of competition and these practices are going to 252 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: be higher. It's something that Freddie has emphasized. And I 253 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: also think that just the natural competitor and all of 254 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: these guys is going to come out fairly quickly because 255 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: these are guys who are very good football players, and 256 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: they do not take defeat or failure or any type 257 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: of setback lightly. And I think when you match up 258 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: those guys on both sides of the ball, inevitably, you're 259 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna eat some Some heads are gonna bang and and 260 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: and some paths are gonna crack and eventually he might 261 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: get a push and shove here once in a while. 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: It happens every camp everywhere, and uh, and I think 263 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a really impassionate group and and 264 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: and it will make them better as a team as 265 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: long as they can stay healthy. And I think it 266 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: will also help us figure out, of course, you know 267 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: who's going to start at the right guard position, but 268 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: also who is going to be the key depth players 269 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: behind that starting front four, because that's also gonna be 270 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: very important as we go into the season. And and 271 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: I think we'll we'll figure out who those guys are 272 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: because of the level of the play that I'm anticipating 273 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: in this camp position battles you're most looking forward to 274 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: seeing if I could get one from each one of you. 275 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: I'll go first because that the most exciting one to 276 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: me is what who starts at cornerback opposite Denzel Ward. 277 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: I think that's the that's the one that we'll be 278 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: able to really from an outsider's view without because I 279 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: I just can't as much as I've watched football, I 280 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: can't go out there and tell you exactly who's doing 281 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: the best at right guard on every given practice. I 282 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: can see what's happening at defensive back. I can see 283 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: what's happening on one on ones. I could see just 284 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: the confidence that a player is playing with. We saw 285 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: it right away last year at Terrence Mitchell, Like it 286 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: was a few days in the camp. You're like, this 287 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: guy is playing really well and he made his move 288 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: up very quickly. We saw Greedy Williams get work with 289 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: the ones uh during the spring. I don't know how 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: it will start at training camp, but I don't think 291 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell is out of it by any means, And 292 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: I think both of those guys are competing, and I 293 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: do like the upside if Greedy Williams can simply prove 294 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: that he is worthy of being a top four corner 295 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: on this team. That gives you so many more options 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: on what you can do and moving guys around. You 297 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: could potentially see down a denzil Ward move into the slot. 298 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: You could just do so many different things if you 299 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: have a proven player like Greedy Williams ready to tackle 300 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: one of those positions. Yeah, and that's gonna be really 301 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: interesting to see because because of the capabilities of the 302 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: defensive heat were to win that position, like you said, 303 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: but I have to, I have to go to the 304 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: offensive line. But just because it's your our offensive line 305 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: and defensive line group, it's just an important position because 306 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, you have to protect protect your quarterback. And 307 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: while we put a lot of emphasis and pay these 308 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: guys more money on the outsides of tackles because you're 309 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: dealing with edge rushers and everything else, sure's path to 310 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback is right up the middle. And we have 311 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: a proven center here and JC Chedder, we have a 312 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: proven left guard and Joel Bottonio. We do not have 313 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: that at right guard. And as far as i'm concer 314 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: and unless you can see that about all three of 315 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: those positions you then you can't be a d confident 316 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: in that group until you find one who is and 317 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: none of them are proving him, but one of them 318 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: can go win the job and attempt to prove himself 319 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: both in camp, preseason in the regular season. But that 320 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: all begins this week once we get those pads on, 321 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: because you can work on footwork, you can work on 322 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: hand placement, but you can't actually really determine who's got 323 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: to lead in a battle for an offensive line position 324 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: until you put those pads on, because it's just a 325 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: matter of contact, maintaining your base, your balance, uh sustaining 326 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: your block driving, and also having the toughness to do 327 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: that over and over and over and over again through 328 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: all of these practices, and the ability to avoid you know, 329 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: injury or getting into a tough situation where that might happen, 330 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: so you don't know that until the contact hits full go. 331 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean more more on the offensive defensive line than 332 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: any other position on the field. So that's what I'm 333 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: most looking forward to and happy that training camp is 334 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: finally going to be here because there are some good 335 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: prospects and there might be a surprise or two there, 336 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see them figure it out. 337 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any questions. And I think some 338 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: of the other battles obviously defensive back depending on what 339 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: shakes out with that battle between Greedy and Money Mitch, 340 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: and also the wide receiver room. There's a lot of 341 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: wide receivers and there's some really talented young guys that 342 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of snaps in Mini camp that really 343 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: maybe bear watching here these first few weeks. Yeah, I'd 344 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: say there's every position group, there's like a battle for 345 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: a couple of spots, like at the back end, and 346 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: they're and they're almost pretty wide open. I would say 347 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: running back is not as wide open. That room looks 348 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: pretty solid, uh, from from the beginning to the end. Yeah, 349 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver, You've got a bunch of guys, and I 350 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: think it's mostly is going to come down to special 351 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: teams because you're not gonna want outside of Callaway as 352 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: a return guy. You don't really want those top four 353 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: guys out there doing too much on special teams. So 354 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: I think special teams is going to play a huge 355 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: role and who emerges among gaming Ratley Derek Willys, who 356 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: is very good on special teams last year uh Ishmael 357 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: him and Jalen Strong, a bunch of guys who can 358 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: certainly if they don't make it here, could could land 359 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: somewhere Else's waiver claims, uh. Down the line, I think 360 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: the final spot in the tight end room is up 361 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: for grabs. That obviously those last few spots in the 362 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: offensive line room. It's really all these position battles outside 363 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: of those two that we identified at first starting jobs. 364 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: It's all the back end ones that will be monitoring 365 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: uh and and kind of handwringing over as we kind 366 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: of predict our fifty three man rosters here. Although I 367 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: am curious to see what happens in the safety position 368 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: because you know, Jermaine white Head was the talk of 369 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: Mini camp and somebody that we didn't expect to have 370 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: to talk about, and he got a lot of time 371 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: with the ones he's gonna he would likely be playing 372 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: opposite to Mary's Randall, do they go to a three 373 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: safety set? Where does Morgan Burnett fit in? Where's Eric 374 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Murray fit in? That that's gonna be really intriguing. Yeah, 375 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I think that there are plenty of positions to watch. 376 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: But Gribbs, you mentioned it. I think you said it best. 377 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: It's on the back end. We're not talking necessarily starters, 378 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe one or two starting spots and everything else. 379 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: You're you're talking the backup role. Uh. Is there an 380 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: under a radar player that each one of you has 381 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: that maybe we should be watching, fans should be watching 382 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: here these uh these first few weeks that could that 383 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: could make an impact that could make us stop and 384 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: reevaluate a position. I'm a big fan of Dontrell Hilliard 385 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: at running back, and I also think he carries potential 386 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: to win the return man job. And that's one that 387 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: we also really need to figure out because that's gonna 388 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: help us figure out how many players are kept at 389 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: certain positions. UM. I know that from what I saw 390 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: from him in mini camping and especially O t a 391 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: S just the way he heads the ball out of 392 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: the backfield, even when he's blanketed by a defender. I 393 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: think he had a really great offseason. Um he could 394 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: play a key role with Kareem Hunt missing the first 395 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: eight games for depth and also for a special teams. 396 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: So I think he's one of those guys who if 397 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: fans get a good look at him this year, you know, 398 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: and during this camp, I think they'll start to like 399 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: him a lot. I'll stay on offense and I'll go 400 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: with Pharaoh Brown at tight end. I think he's got 401 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: a legitimate shot to make that group, and I think 402 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: he's He's someone where you always keep your eye on 403 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: a player who is been on the roster for a while. 404 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Even though he hasn't really played much and hung around 405 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: and has been in the building now for close to 406 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: a year, he's gotten bigger. He's he can be a 407 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: big target in the end zone, and I think he 408 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: can help on special teams. So I think he's going 409 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: to be in a competition in that group with the 410 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: likes of an Orson, Charles the Seth to Valve. It's 411 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be about what those guys can do behind 412 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the Joku and Harris uh and and Brown's size. If 413 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: you can put him out there with a n Joku 414 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: and with some some other guys, you can get really 415 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: big in the red zone and really become dangerous. So 416 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: he's someone I'll I'll keep an eye on. Another name 417 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: I'll just throw out there, And this is a totally 418 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: off the radar on defense at corner for one of 419 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the last spots at corner. Uh, Lenzy Pipkins. I saw him. 420 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: We saw him a bunch with the second team defense 421 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: in in mini camp. He's another guy that's just kind 422 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: of been on this roster for a little bit of 423 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: time now. Uh. Someone that really could be the surprise 424 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: last defensive back, maybe along the lines of like a 425 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: Denzel Rice from last year who made it as a 426 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: surprise basically and hung around for a few weeks before 427 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: moving on. So that's someone just to keep on your radar. 428 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to make the team, but 429 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: someone who is a name that no one talks about, 430 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: who I think has a chance. Yeah, who has who 431 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: has a who has a chance at a at a 432 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: roster spot? Who who is not just not a popular name. 433 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: Lenzy story is actually kind of interesting too, because he 434 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: was he was either with the Packers or the Colts, 435 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: someone who was the Packers last year and got traded 436 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: early in the season and ended up um you know 437 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: on that. I think he got traded to the Colts 438 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: and then eventually was on the wave of a wire 439 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and ended up here. But it's clear that somebody sees 440 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: something in this player. Otherwise, while else would you go 441 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: try to acquire someone at that point in the season. 442 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: I think it was like late August early September to 443 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: make such a move. Um, and even though you let 444 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: him go, eventually he landed here. I mean, the kids 445 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: got some talent that multiple people are saying, so maybe 446 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: this is the time he gets a shot to fit 447 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: in with the defense and make a roster. Taking a 448 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: look at your forecast for the week, Thursday and Friday 449 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: eight seven and Sunday, Saturday eighty eight and sunny Sunday 450 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: and ninety and sunny, gonna get hot, It's gonna get sticky. 451 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna be really happy that the collective bargaining agreement 452 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: only limits to one practice a day and not two days. 453 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Helps that's earlier. I think that'll that that'll that's key. 454 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: So do we like do we not like? From a 455 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: selfish standpoint, I love it. It helps make your day normal. 456 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: You're not waiting around for for practice at three o'clock. 457 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly training camp sold out. People have found 458 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: out ways to get out of work or right, I 459 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: mean I think that it didn't. Maybe maybe in one 460 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: of our leading years, the early practice time would have 461 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: been a tough selling fans. You could put these practices 462 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: at midnight. I think people are going to find their 463 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: way out there. I like it from a just it 464 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: starts your day and you're working from there will be 465 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: I think taping this podcast would have been a little 466 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: trickier with the old format. Uh So, I I personally 467 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: like it. You can talk to every football coach. Everyone 468 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: has like a right or wrong way to do it. 469 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like travel in the NFL. Some team, some 470 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: people swear by the two days out west, others swear 471 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: by the one one day. You know, it's like each 472 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: coach has his own way of doing things. Freddie switching 473 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: up the first time Browns have had morning practice since 474 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. I'm a big fan, big fan because, um, 475 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: most of your practice is done before the sun is 476 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: at its highest or hottest, which is around two pm. 477 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I think anybody who's ever gone through 478 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: a two a day at any level, I can tell 479 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: you that anything that's done by noon is a good thing. 480 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: Even if it's a little steamy in the morning, it's 481 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: still a good thing. Well, and I wonder last year, 482 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: you can go back the last few years. I feel 483 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: like there were a handful of practices last last couple 484 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: of years they had to get moved indoors. That would 485 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: have happened outside had they been in the morning. Yeah, 486 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, so I think that's with Cleveland's weather in 487 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: the summer, you know, this is like the brief period 488 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: of time the Cleveland mimics Florida a little bit, where 489 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get thunderstorms usually in that three to 490 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: five window. So I think you get a better chance 491 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: of some of these of all these practices happening outdoors, 492 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: and that's more important for the fans to be out 493 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: there and everything like that. That's that's that's the thing 494 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I like. Also, do you think I can't believe I'm 495 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: about to bring this up, but do you think Hard 496 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Knocks is prepared some of the guys on this team 497 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: for the media onslaught in the national scrutiny that's gonna 498 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: come with training camp. Yeah, And I think that it's 499 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: just it's a it's a different generation to where these 500 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: guys live with cell phone cameras and everything like that 501 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: in their lives to begin with. So I don't I 502 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: just don't know if it's that big of a of 503 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: a of a deal. Anyways, I think they'll be fine 504 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: with it. I think last year Hard Knocks was the 505 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: quietest staff of a hundred and fifty I've ever seen 506 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: in my life. They blended in with everything. It was 507 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: only if you came to one practice where they stood 508 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: out to you. If you were here from more than 509 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: one practice, you didn't even notice them. That's a good 510 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: point that they're notorious for that. I just stood about 511 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: this far away. I can't even reach as close as 512 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: I was from Odell, following him around a few full 513 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: of six fifty plus kids with a phone in his 514 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: face like this right, continually walking with him down the 515 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: sideline at this field. Today, he didn't. It wasn't like 516 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't even there. Same thing about 517 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: Drivers a month ago. These guys are more than prepared 518 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: for that kind of thing, and I honestly think that 519 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: they're relieved that camp is here and excited because now 520 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: we can stop talking about what's on paper and start 521 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: putting it into action. Speaking of that, Baker Mayfield, what's 522 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: the biggest thing he has to improve from year one 523 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: to year two? Well, I mean Brian Linley talked about 524 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: when Odell and Drivers were not on the field during 525 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: minicamp that it forced him to go through his progressions, 526 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: which is always a good thing. If you can learn 527 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: to get to your second third and maybe even a 528 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: fourth option in a play and still be able to 529 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: release the ball on time and maybe under a little 530 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: bit of pressure, but you're not getting sacked or whatever. 531 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Um I think that can only bode well for him. 532 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: So maybe it's that. Maybe it's um on learning to 533 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: get through the entire progression and a player getting better 534 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: at it. I don't think he's gonna have to do 535 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: that very much, but it's good that he's picking up 536 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: that skill, so that's something he could work on. This 537 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: This falls along the lines of that is if you 538 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: go back to last season and look at the games 539 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: where he wasn't playing as well as he did in 540 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: some of the other ones, it was the games like 541 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: Denver Baltimore where you were facing these really good defenses, 542 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: and in both of those games he had success with 543 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: some big plays, and it was it's almost the restraint 544 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: of not trying to make the big play every pass. 545 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I think in that Denver game especially, it just seemed 546 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: like he was pushing it downfield and it just wasn't happening. 547 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: And then finally when they got a little momentum the 548 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: second Halfews making some shorter passes, quicker reads, things like that, 549 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: and so it's really just trusting the offense, uh, working 550 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: in the flow of the offense. I go back to 551 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: his Falcons game last year, Week ten. It was a 552 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: work of art like that was his best performance, hands down, efficient, 553 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: got everyone involved in the offense, took what the defense 554 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: gave you and and made the most out of only 555 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: twenty passes, and it was just it. That's what you 556 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: want out of Baker Mayfield. Every week. It was the 557 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: games seemingly the games where he had the most passing 558 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: yards or maybe some of his worst games last year. 559 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: So it's more of just taking what the defense gives 560 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: you and be the efficient passer, not a guy that 561 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: has to rack up foreign or passing yards, because I 562 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna have to do that within this offense. 563 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: Offensive balance usually a bodes well as long as you're 564 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: not balanced at a hundred yards and a hundred yards, 565 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: because then you're in trouble. But let's face it, no 566 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: quarterback or anybody who's going to try to move the 567 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: football or play any sport in which you're scoring points 568 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: wants to take a small amount of game. You want 569 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: to go for the big play. So it's natural, but 570 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: it's also I think a sign of how young he 571 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: was and how he had experienced some success and he 572 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: just wanted more of it, more of it, more of it. 573 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta be okay with a three yard completion 574 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: because guess what, you got another down to work with, 575 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: your setting yourself up from. Yeah, and I like, like 576 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: Gribble just said, you know, and I think that, uh, 577 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: I think that that's something that he could definitely do. 578 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: He can definitely improve on Hill. I think he will 579 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: as he gets more reps. You know. It's I think 580 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: it's simply a matter of more field time. I think 581 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting here for the next thirty plus days, 582 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: about thirty four days total to get us from day 583 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: one of training camp to that dreaded fourth preseason game 584 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: that somehow always ends up becoming a pretty big story 585 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: for this football team in years past. You're looking at you, 586 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: You've got two home games. It's the first game, it's 587 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: the fourth game. Your barometer is gonna be your second year. 588 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: Third game that week that we go to Indie and 589 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: we screw we practiced against them every day, and then 590 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: we play them in a preseason game. I think it's 591 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a huge week to see where this team is. 592 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Two teams picked to win their division by most people. Yeah, 593 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's two two premiere quarterbacks, two premiere teams. 594 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm super pumped to see how this front four plays 595 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: against their offensive Their offensive line is really good and 596 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: it were they play really well cohesively, and I would 597 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: love to see what this front four because it's the 598 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: great parameters. See how well they could play this season. 599 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: And then you've got your dress rehearsal game in Tampa 600 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: on that Friday a night the third week in August. Uh, 601 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: what needs to go right in these next thirty four days. 602 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: So when then when this team takes the field on 603 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: September eight, they get off to a successful start. They 604 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: need to be healthy number one. Above all, they need 605 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: to be healthy. They need to be in good shape. 606 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: They need to be uh with as little you know, 607 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: bumps and bruises as possible. I think that's the biggest key, 608 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: because you know the talent you have on this team 609 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: and and the amount of practices that they're going to 610 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: get together, They're gonna get, you know, to know each other. 611 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: Ohdell talked about that today. He wants to get to 612 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: know his teammates. Has gotta get to know the offense 613 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: and learn how to play with them. They'll figure that out, 614 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: but they need to make it through healthy. Yeah. I 615 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: was gonna say the health thing first up, but I'll 616 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: pick you back on that. And I just I want 617 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: to see the offense look better than it did Minicamp. 618 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it looked. They had some plays, 619 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: but it's clearly Yeah, there were some growing pains going 620 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: on with the new system, and normally the offense is 621 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: ahead of the defense at that time. Yeah, so it 622 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: was I just want that's I think I'm confident in 623 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: a get there, but you just didn't have your full 624 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: the basket of tricks at your disposal. Now you do, 625 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: so make the most of this. These next thirty days 626 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: show us the offense that we expect to see and 627 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: be in a good place when you go up against 628 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: a Titans team that's they're pretty good on defense. They're 629 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: they're a pretty good team, and I don't think people 630 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: are giving them enough creditether this opener. I mean, they're 631 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: they're a pretty good team. A tough test to start 632 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: the season. Uh that a lot of people are just 633 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna assume the Browns are gonna go in and roll them. 634 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna it's you. You just want to 635 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: see the growth in this offense learning kind of a 636 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: new system. Defense learning a new system too, But it 637 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: just seems like they're it's a little bit simpler on 638 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: the defense side of ball them what the offense is 639 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: going through. Yeah, let's not over like the fact that 640 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: the Titans were a week seventeen loss away from getting 641 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm just saying they are a good, good 642 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: football team. And for those people that just chalk it 643 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: up to an easy w it is not. The beginning 644 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: part of this schedule is going to test this football team, 645 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm anxious to see how we handle a 646 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: little adversity if it comes our way. When it comes 647 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: our way, I think they have the right coach that's 648 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: that's well equipped to handle it though. Yeah, no question 649 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: about it. Any final thoughts gentlemen before we officially get 650 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: ready training camp, I have none. I'm saving them for 651 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: the next podcasts, So it's save our material here. I'm 652 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna steal what my commencement speaker said when 653 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: I graduated from Kent State. Where sunscreen when you come 654 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: out to camp, I'll bet go for you. I didn't 655 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: wear any today and I got a nice little farmer tom, 656 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: a little little color down the farms. Yeah, wear some sunscreen. Yes, 657 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: that that memo to everybody coming to training camp were sunscreen. 658 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hot, it's gonna be sunny. We can't 659 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: wait to see you all, and frankly, let's get it on. 660 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: It's about time. It has been a long offseason waiting 661 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: for this to get going, and we could not be 662 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: more excited. We'll be with you every training camp practice. 663 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: We will recamp the day, National Perspective players coaches, the 664 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: three of us, joined by Jim Donovan, Nathan Zigura, a 665 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: host of other people as we work our way through 666 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: the two thousand and nineteen training camp. You can get 667 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: this podcast wherever you subscribe to podcasts. Go to Cleveland 668 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: Browns dot com to give us a listen anywhere else 669 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: by missing anything, think once we start training camp, people 670 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: able to watch the first part of this podcast on 671 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: YouTube as well. Correct, that's right, they are going to 672 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: put our mugs up on there y FaceTime so you 673 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: can see for real what you get exactly. Yeah, look 674 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: at that little mark on your head. Yeah, that's great. 675 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: There were going for Nick Shook, for Andrew Gribble. I'm 676 00:31:43,760 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs. This has been the best podcasting available s