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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome everyone to another edition of Orlando Magic Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: Dante Marcatelli, Jake Chapman, George Galante recap the NBA trade

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Speaker 1: deadline from an Orlando Magic perspective in Magic Fans Magic

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Speaker 1: of Magic Pod Squad, one of the final ones before

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Speaker 1: the All Star break, as we recap the busy NBA

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Speaker 1: trade deadline and the Orlando Magic thinking going into this

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Speaker 1: one and the decision to ride with what you got

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Speaker 1: in a great position for this Magic team here down

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Speaker 1: the stretch, what it looks like the final thirty games

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Speaker 1: of the season, and a busy All Star weekend for

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Speaker 1: Polo ban Carrol and great national exposure coming up for

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Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic organization starting next week in Indianapolis. All

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Speaker 1: that coming your way on this edition of Magic Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: Those fonds of Oaro if the Orlando Magic. This is

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Speaker 1: col Anthony Missus, Jennon Suggs, this is Paulo Man Carroll

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Speaker 1: of the Orlando Magic, and you're listening to the Pods

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Speaker 1: Squad and welcome everyone to another edition of Orlando Magic

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Speaker 1: Prod Squad. Dante Marca, Telly, George Galate, Jake Chapman.

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Speaker 2: Here with you.

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Speaker 1: Lots to get to. This Orlando Magic team now sitting

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Speaker 1: here at twenty eight and twenty four at the time

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Speaker 1: of this taping, three games left before the All Star Break.

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Speaker 1: You win game one of a four game homestand a

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Speaker 1: big home stand coming up, meaningful games here the last

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Speaker 1: three big night coming up with Shaquille O Neil getting

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Speaker 1: this jersey retire. We get a lot to get to

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Speaker 1: and we'll do it here on this edition of Orlando

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Speaker 1: Magic Pod Squad. The trade deadline has come and gone.

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Speaker 1: What looks like? What does it look like for the

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Speaker 1: final thirty one games of the season for the Orlando

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Speaker 1: Magic as they make their playoff push. Magic sitting in

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Speaker 1: a great position, and we'll recap all of it here

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Speaker 1: for you. But first of all, all star plans, all

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Speaker 1: star plans for everybody. George, you have an All Star

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Speaker 1: in Polo ban Carrol, But from what I understand, you

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Speaker 1: will not be anywhere near Indianapolis. Probably a good move.

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Speaker 2: How'd you get out of that one?

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Speaker 3: I well, I think it's just his tenure. Tenyure got

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Speaker 3: me out of All Star Weekend. I really have no

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Speaker 3: other excuse other than that. Listen, I love the festivities,

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Speaker 3: deaths Rand. It's a grand event for the league, but

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Speaker 3: I said it on this format before that for an

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Speaker 3: employee that has to go to All Star Weekend, and

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Speaker 3: and God bless Trish Wingerson, she's going to be doing she's.

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Speaker 1: Taking it for She's taken it. She's taken one for

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Speaker 1: the team. Oh okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna fall on the grenade for All Star Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: And now it's like, you know, we're so excited that

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Speaker 3: Paolo is in the game off absolutely so, it's and

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Speaker 3: we'll get to that. It's but now he's in the

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Speaker 3: Skills Challenge on All Star Saturday night, he is in

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Speaker 3: the Rising Stars event on Friday. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: that means Trisha's got to get up there on Thursday. Oh, no,

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Speaker 3: so she she will be busy Friday. Yeah, she will

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Speaker 3: be busy Saturday night. She will be busy Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: And then I asked, asked, well what time? She said,

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Speaker 3: I got a five thirty am flight out Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. And uh, it's just it's along at first.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's even if he's not in all those events,

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Speaker 1: it's a busy night with him. Just anyway, right, going

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Speaker 3: He's going to have a media circuit to go through,

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Speaker 1: Going to be great for absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, He's going.

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Speaker 3: To get to do some things he has never done before.

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Speaker 3: but I plan on being nowhere near Indianapolis. I plan

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Speaker 1: You're in the business season, well, Jake, just so you know,

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Speaker 3: So special exemption.

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Speaker 2: That's how about you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jay Jake. You get a chance to decompress

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Speaker 1: a little bit, right with that? What almost ten month old?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if decompresses the way to describe it.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go on our first plane flight with uh

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Speaker 4: We're gonna fly on on Friday and come back on Monday,

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Speaker 1: You may get less rest, You may get less rest

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Speaker 1: than Trish.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly.

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Speaker 1: In my mind light alone, just order to know exactly

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Speaker 1: that's Georgie. That's busy doving, that is that is a

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I am going to have my eye you know,

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Speaker 4: when you walk on the plane. I'm not somebody who

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Speaker 4: I get on the plane to see what I'm working with.

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Speaker 4: And of course you always identify the first potential crying baby.

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Speaker 4: And now that's gonna be me. It's gonna be me, Kelly,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna walk down the plane when we're gonna identify. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: one of these things is as soon as we walk by, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Right? I figured absolutely good.

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Speaker 4: It's a good what two hours in a little change flight.

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Speaker 4: It's not too bad. We're not going to Seattle. And

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Speaker 4: you get a nap in there, and absolutely yeah, it works.

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Speaker 2: He's listening eds.

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Speaker 4: Crying kids cry.

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Speaker 1: Everybody understands, right, George, the crying kids, you sometimes you

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Speaker 1: It's the parents that say, okay, it's fine. Hey, you

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Speaker 1: That's exactly it. And and we've are we're already taking

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Speaker 3: Boot listen, she'll have them when you get back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: By the way, this is why I love her doctor.

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Speaker 4: She literally said, keep her in bubble wrapid before until

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Speaker 4: We got a week in the time, so but we're ready.

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Speaker 1: You'll be totally fired. Then then you wake up and

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Speaker 1: is doctor, I never get it. But you've been they're

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Speaker 1: The NBA trade deadline came and went and not a

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Speaker 1: huge uh, not any moves, not a single move for

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Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic. But you didn't know that there would be.

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Speaker 1: They've got a full roster, and you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you know, as we know with Jeff Wellman, he's making calls,

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Speaker 1: And of course it always takes two to tango, so

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Speaker 1: And maybe partly there's the feeling that with these with

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Speaker 3: You basically just took everything I was going to say

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Speaker 3: to say that he's not interested in, you know, like

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Speaker 3: everybody else here, making the playoffs and making that ship

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Speaker 3: and doing everything we can. I think we have to

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Speaker 3: we're what we were four games over five hundred. If

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Speaker 3: somebody would have told you I know it, I know it,

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Speaker 3: or a training camp that listen at the All Star break,

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Speaker 3: anywhere from four to seven games over five hundred at

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Speaker 3: Is signed that would have said sign me up? For

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Speaker 1: And a half a game out of six. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: just add that to the mix, too. Right.

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Speaker 3: You can't control you can't cotrol the other teams, right

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Speaker 3: or over over five hundred at the All Star rate,

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Speaker 3: there is not one person that would be said, we

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Speaker 3: should be better than that, right, correct, And so I

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Speaker 3: think the Magic are very happy with where we are.

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Speaker 3: I think that. And that's not to say that Jeff

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Speaker 3: the basketball operation staff is always looking to find ways

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Speaker 1: Well, they have a chance to be four or five

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Speaker 3: It's very listen. I it's very hard if it because

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Speaker 3: I can trade this, you know this super you know this,

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Speaker 3: I am not one of those people. I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to win. Sure, yes, exactly exactly right, right,

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Speaker 3: So, and then that hopefully you have set this up correctly.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for that. And listen, you look at the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it is the last thing I was gonna

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Speaker 4: in his hands, in a good spacer for Paul and Frantz.

436
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 4: Oh wait a second, we have that guy. He's just

437
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 4: that's injury issues so far this year. So if he is,

438
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 4: if he is locked in a healthy coming down the stretch.

439
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 4: It's that That's the perfect example of when you see

440
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 4: it in another in another jersey, you're going, oh, we

441
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 4: need him, we need that guy. Emmanuel quickly when everybody

442
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 4: was talking about it, he was available from the Knicks,

443
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 4: and and I see all this discourse on Twitter, I'm

444
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 4: going we have a Manuel quickly. His name's cole An.

445
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,239
Speaker 4: Like you know, like everybody, it's always it's always kind

446
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 4: of the grasses greener over there. We've got we've I

447
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 4: think we have the roster in place here and they've

448
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 4: proven it so far without health and with the schedule,

449
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 4: as we mentioned.

450
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 2: Here, we are four games about five hundred.

451
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 3: We've had a lot of conversations over the years, all

452
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 3: of us, with other teams, you know, broadcasters, pr staff, whatever.

453
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: Where we look at somebody from Afar, I'm like, wow,

454
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 3: we'd really like to have that guy. And then you

455
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 3: have a conversation with that guy and they're like, oh,

456
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 3: you can have him.

457
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: Right, It's very interesting like that.

458
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't say. And it's people like people, people

459
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: would have no idea the caliber of stars, even where

460
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: you've had a conversation and you're just like, man, he's

461
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 3: got to be great, you know, like I'd love to

462
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 3: have him, and they're turned around. It's just like you said,

463
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 3: the grass is always greener somebody else. Another girl is

464
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 3: always prettier, Like it's not necessarily the case so like, yeah,

465
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: let's right, let's ride with what we have. Let's let's

466
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 3: let's let's.

467
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Well and and and if you want to make a move,

468
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 1: you can do it this summer. You're two months away, right,

469
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: You're two months away from the you know from from

470
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: the playoffs starting, so you can go. You can pursue

471
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: anything you want. You haven't given up any any you

472
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: haven't given up any assets, any draft compensation. And I

473
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: guess the last part of this I will piggyback on.

474
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Guys can say they don't worry about the trade deadline.

475
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: All they want. Guys can say they don't care. Coach

476
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: can say, you know, control the things you can control

477
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,479
Speaker 1: and all that, and that's right, that's how you have

478
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,239
Speaker 1: to approach it. But there was a different feeling in

479
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: that locker room yesterday before the game, knowing that okay,

480
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: this is everybody's here. There were a lot more smiles,

481
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: there was a lot less tense. You went on, had

482
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 1: one of your best offensive games of the season. I

483
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: think guys weren't pressing. I think that's another part of it, right,

484
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: the final thirty games, and we'll touch on that next.

485
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, guys got to play better. There are some

486
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: guys that got to you gotta shoot better, you gotta

487
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: play better, you gotta protect the ball better. And that's

488
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 1: what happens. You need that in the playoff push anyway.

489
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: But don't you feel like, Okay, this is this is

490
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: what you gotta And it looked to me like it

491
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: was it was just the weight was lifted off a

492
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys shoulders last night.

493
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Speaker 3: Jake, you were at cheat around and yesterday, I mean,

494
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: there were a lot of guys. It's it's it's human nature.

495
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: We were all on our phones. We were all on

496
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,719
Speaker 3: our phones as guys started to do media availability yesterday,

497
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: and that's when a couple of the you know, a

498
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: couple of the Knicks deals went down or they you know,

499
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: it's just it's wojbomb after Sham's bomb after woj bomb. Yeah, right,

500
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: And we're not the only ones that do that. I mean,

501
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: like Jay Jalen came out to do an interview for me,

502
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: and the first thing he said was he's like, well

503
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: grab you see you know, see the Knicks just got

504
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: you know, Bogeton. It's like they're all looking at it.

505
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: And but the problem, the difference between me and them

506
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: is that they could go at any minute?

507
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, Yeah, exactly.

508
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: That has to be an unnerving feeling, absolutely for for

509
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: a young guy like that that's on his own, for

510
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: a guy that has a family like oh question. It's

511
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: a very nervous time for all the players, no matter

512
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: who you are, because it's been proven over the years

513
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: that nobody is is untradeable, right, nobody's untradeable.

514
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: So it's well and into Jeff's credit. With all that

515
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: being said, am I gonna pull the trigger? Am I

516
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: gonna do something just to do something right and uproot

517
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: someone for something that I'm not convinced is gonna is

518
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna be that much better than what we've already gotten, What's.

519
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: Going to affect the other guys in the line?

520
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

521
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

522
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Or I'm really tight with player B and player B

523
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: goes and that messes up player A.

524
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's what I was gonna say. It's

525
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: it would never be the reason you want to make

526
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: a deal, because we want to keep our locker room together.

527
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: But we have talked all season long about the chemistry

528
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 4: and the vibe with the locker room, and it is unique.

529
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: I think we've been around long enough to know that

530
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: not all teams are built this way, and and and

531
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: chemistry is chemistry. You take away one piece and you

532
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: have no idea how it impact. Let alone, who are

533
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 4: we bringing in? Are they going to take shots away

534
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 4: from the guys that we need to still be developing.

535
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 4: There's just so much more edited in how many years

536
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: are on their contract, you know who who represents them.

537
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: There are so many layers to all of this. When

538
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: you make a move like that, and and and we

539
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 4: are not in the situation where the Detroit Pistons are

540
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: where it's like this, clearly is it working.

541
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: We need to do so.

542
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: Like goodness, they needed to do stuff for the sake

543
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: of doing stuff because very clearly what they were doing

544
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 4: was not working. We we we feel like we're we're

545
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 4: onto something here, and even those small, minor moves can

546
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: sometimes have big impacts.

547
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: Now, don't get me wrong, I would have liked to

548
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: had Buddy healed for a second round pick, but but

549
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: that deal wasn't out there.

550
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: And it takes two to tang.

551
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: It takes two to tango. You're you're exactly right. That

552
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: was that was a prominent thought. That was prominent thought

553
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: on Magic Twitter. Yeah, that's but that was the bottom

554
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: three guys in my roster. It's not gonna happen. Want

555
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: that too, So I did like I did, like the

556
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: tweet from Bill Simmons. We need to we need to,

557
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: we need to rethink if Detroit should be allowed to

558
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: make moves. I thought that was brutal in the way

559
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: they just blew that whole thing up. My goodness. So now,

560
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: the electricity in that building last night was sensational. I

561
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: think one of the things that stood out to me

562
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 1: was Jonathan Isaac rejecting the dunk attempt by Victor weban Yama.

563
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: He's caught a couple of people, and at some point

564
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: people are gonna stop, uh trying to attack Jonathan Isaac. Right,

565
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: you know, Jeff says it on the broadcast. Think twice,

566
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Think twice, and then they'll shoot and you'll swadd it away.

567
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Isaac the final third games. Right as you sit

568
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: here now, with thirty games left, the minutes will start

569
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: to creep up. We've seen games where he finishes the

570
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: entire fourth quarter. Right, He's going to be a secret

571
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: weapon or an X factor for this team if they're

572
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: going to move up in the standings and ultimately clinch

573
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. What does it look like for him

574
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: as we look at minutes, as we look at where

575
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be potentially at the end of the season,

576
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: because he's a difference maker. And that was unbelievable. That's

577
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: a seven to four guy trying to throw it down

578
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: over the top of you and you sent it into

579
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: the stands.

580
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: It's got to be really hard for Jamal Mosley to

581
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: keep him. I mean you've seen it Dante where he

582
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: kind of yes, right solver and asks, you know, you

583
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: or me or Joel Glass, how many minutes is jiat.

584
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: And what do we say? And what do we tell him?

585
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: I tell him four, even if it's the fourth quarter

586
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: and he's played at least twenty minutes, that four minutes

587
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: he got sixteen four. You're all good, everything's he's clear,

588
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: But you still have to listen. You know, the All

589
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: Star break is not where we want to get with

590
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: Jonathan Isaac. March first is not where we want to

591
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: get to Jonathan Isaac. We want to get to May

592
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: with Jonathan Isaac. You're right, I mean we and and

593
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: a full healthy Jonathan Isaac. The more he plays, the

594
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: more he can get through games. You know, with a

595
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: slight tick up in his minutes. The more the more

596
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: mentally healthy he has to be too to be out

597
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: there as well. And I think that's a big thing

598
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: with Jonathan is you know, he starts off slow. He

599
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: plays ten minutes a game and all right, my legs

600
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: are good. I can I can get through that.

601
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Now.

602
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: Now we're up to fifteen, Now we're up to twenty.

603
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying by the time we get to May,

604
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: he's going to be playing thirty five minutes a night.

605
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: That's not going to happen because this guy that's been,

606
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: you know, suffered through so much, so we can't can't

607
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: go ahead and do that to him. But as as

608
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: the season progresses here and he does what he did,

609
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: I mean last night was a was a masterclass I

610
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: thought by Jonathan Isaac. Just and on the offensive end too.

611
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: He's hitting the glass, he's running the floor. I mean,

612
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: he runs like a gazelle.

613
00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Nice pull up jumper. Yep.

614
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 3: He had a really good all around game last night.

615
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: And you're right, I don't think I don't think he's

616
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: going to surprise anybody. Everybody knows who Jonathan Isaac is.

617
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: It's a matter of him staying on the floor, and

618
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: it gives us so much versatility with lineups. The things

619
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: that Jamal has already. I mean you've seen it with

620
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: the end of game lineup that he's been thrown out

621
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: there sometimes where you have Fronds at basically at the two,

622
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: where you have six ' ten six ' ten six

623
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: ten seven foot I mean, that's a that's an l

624
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: of a lineup, it really is. And he can just

625
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: he can do so many more things. Jamal. When I

626
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: say he knowing that Jonathan is healthy again available, remember.

627
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: Last year when we were all excited about bull Bull

628
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 4: and Mobamba and and all of a sudden footers. This

629
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: is the practical application of that. This is the one

630
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: that works when you go giant down the stretch. I

631
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: pulled the numbers the other day. Ji's played one or

632
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: more minutes five times this season, and teams are averaging

633
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 4: one hundred and one point four points per game.

634
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: Against us in those games.

635
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of getting him on the poor

636
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 4: And I think what's frustrating or the I think the

637
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: reason that sometimes fans can't figure out why he isn't

638
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: playing twenty eight thirty minutes a game is because he's

639
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: not like a shooter sitting in the corner who can't

640
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: move anymore, and this is all he's able to do.

641
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: He is one of the most athletic, amazing freaks in

642
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: the league. When he's out there, he's one of the

643
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: only guys that you can even consider in the same

644
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: class with a guy like Webban Yama, because he's able

645
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 4: to move his feet on the perimeter, he can switch,

646
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: he can do absolutely everything you want from an NBA

647
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: defender in twenty twenty four. But there is that history,

648
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: and so you know, a lot of it is being cautious.

649
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: If the playoffs were tomorrow, maybe he could get away

650
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: with twenty eight minutes, depending on how he feels, but

651
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: they're not, and so we need to be careful, you know,

652
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: sort of inching his way in.

653
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: But we see it.

654
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: I mean, when coach Boseley has twelve minutes in his

655
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: back pocket headed into the fourth quarter of a closed game,

656
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: that's a secret weapon, man.

657
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: And he is.

658
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he just absolutely rex rex offensive game plans

659
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: for opponents. It's gonna be really big, just keeping them right.

660
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: And and look, I don't if we need if he

661
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: needs to skip it back to back here and there,

662
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: or absolutely Miami were absolutely because come the back end

663
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: to April, hopefully we're gonna need a big filup.

664
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna need a big filat But also, and I'm

665
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna shut these guys down, but he's

666
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna make these guys work. In the first round playoffs,

667
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: here is you start sizing up who you could match

668
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: up with. Right, if you end up getting eighth, then

669
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: you play Boston to have the ability to put twenty

670
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: minutes of Isaac on Tatum at least make him work

671
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: for right that you haven't had that right for the

672
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. I mean it's Milwaukee

673
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: with Giannis. Right, you started sizing up every freedom, absolutely,

674
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: but a lot of the a lot of the iron

675
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the conference are are exactly who

676
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: he would guard, right, So I think you started at

677
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: least to give yourself a chance right to to to

678
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: at least try to slow down a guy like that

679
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: as much as humanly possible if they can be slowed down.

680
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: So I think he he becomes critical and I think

681
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: we out when Franz Wagner was out, we saw the

682
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: usage rate climb up for Apollo, Bancaro and you wonder, Okay,

683
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: at some point, you got to ease off of that guy, right,

684
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: and we've seen it here the last couple of weeks.

685
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I think the All Star Break is going to be

686
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: good for him. Not that not that he's going to

687
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: get a ton of rest, but it's not going to

688
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: be hard on his legs. He's not going to be

689
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: out playing competitive basketball games. The Rising Stars Challenge, the

690
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: Skills competition, the All Star Break, I think you see,

691
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, you don't go hard in those things. And

692
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: then he's going to have the four days off after

693
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: one of them being a travel day to get up

694
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. So I think that's going to be a break.

695
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Whereas conversely, if Franz Wagner hasn't had a break in

696
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: three years, right since he's come to the NBA with FIBA.

697
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: And all that stuff.

698
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: So I think those eight games off that he had

699
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: with the ankle, he probably needed three days off with

700
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: the ankle, but you decided to give him a little

701
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: extra rest, And I think that's why the last couple

702
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: of games we've seen thirty eight, thirty four last night

703
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: against San Antonio, I think that guy's fresh, and I

704
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: think that's going to help him here going down the stretch.

705
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: It's the thing.

706
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: I love it, and you and Q touched on it

707
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: post game last night after the Spurs game. This team

708
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: is just built to where let's take Palobank care a right,

709
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: he had a street going last night of seventeen games

710
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: in a row or eight, I'm sorry, eighteen games in

711
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: a row with twenty and five assists, twenty points of

712
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: five assists, and he was close to it last night,

713
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: but he knew Franz had it going and he doesn't.

714
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's all about they're so team oriented and

715
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: it's and it's great that your top two players are

716
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: team oriented like they. Franz does not care if he

717
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: scores twelve and Palo goes for thirty five. Plo does

718
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: not care if Franz is going for thirty and he's

719
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: only got fourteen. It's all about who has more points

720
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: at on the scoreboard at the end of the night.

721
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: And it's just that refreshing.

722
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: It's refreshing real, that's sh Yes.

723
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: You've seen it the other way where somebody's got to

724
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: get theirs and listen, that's why this team is having

725
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: success again. If you would have told me, we would

726
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: be in this position in August, you'd all have taken it.

727
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: Everybody would have taken it. And I think it just

728
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: goes back to how team is shaping up. I agree

729
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: fns is hitting his stride. I mean, we knew Franz

730
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: wasn't going to shoot nineteen percent from three for.

731
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: The whole year.

732
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: Right, water usually settles and he's gonna he's gonna tick

733
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: that back up to him.

734
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie I thought we might as a team.

735
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to.

736
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: But but you're right.

737
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: But I knew it wouldn't be him. But we're we're

738
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: coming out of that too, which is nice.

739
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: And maybe you're right, maybe those maybe that was a

740
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: little you know. And that's not to say those guys

741
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: don't work hard when they're out, because they're working hard

742
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: to get back on the floor. But everything has looked

743
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: better for Franz. Not to say he was playing bad

744
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: before the injury, because he was averaging twenty. But the

745
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: three is starting to look better. It's got a little

746
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: more arc on it. He looks fresher, Like you said,

747
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: his legs maybe got a little break where we wouldn't

748
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: have anticipated that in January.

749
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: Now, listen, two more things. I always want to touch

750
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: on the on the last thirty games of the season,

751
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: kind of what that looks like. And then All Star

752
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: weekend right with Pollo and all and the Magic are

753
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: well represented, which is going to be pretty cool. But

754
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: at the time of this right, the Magic, by the way,

755
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: are fighting off a Chicago Bulls team that seems to

756
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: have caught life. Right, So Chicago's right behind you, three

757
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: games behind you. Probably you know, Atlanta is catching fire too,

758
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: although they've lost two in a row, they have the

759
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: ability to catch fire. So those two teams aren't going anywhere.

760
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: You're going to have to.

761
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Fight them off the rest of the way. But you're

762
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: tied with Miami, right, so you lose the tiebreaker because

763
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: they win the season series. But you're you know, so

764
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: you're you're half a game out of six with Indiana,

765
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: who you've beaten twice. You play them two more times,

766
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: but you've already beaten them twice, and now you start

767
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: looking at things. Guys, Listen, anything's possible here in the

768
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. You have to win it all starts with

769
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: what you do in this locker room. And I think

770
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: the big thing is you've got what thirty games left,

771
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: you have seventeen games against opponents that are five hundred

772
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: or under, right, so that should be setting up. Finally,

773
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: you haven't had that. We just came through that twenty

774
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: two game stretch where you're hoping to be above five

775
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: hundred at the end of it, and you are. You're

776
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: now four games over five hundred. So the schedule should

777
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: like up for you here down the stretch, your home

778
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: game heavy, You've got an eight game homestand now you

779
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: start thinking, and again you don't want to get too

780
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: ahead of yourself, but freezing Miles j You're three games

781
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: behind Philadelphia. Who knows what Philadelphia looks like with the

782
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Joel Embid situation, right You don't know when or if

783
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: you're going to get him back. But they're free falling

784
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: right now. We assume that New York is going to

785
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: get these guys in take off, and I think they will.

786
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I think they will because Jalen Brunson is just on

787
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: a mission right now. But what if it doesn't work?

788
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: What if it doesn't work with New York? And then

789
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: the last part of it is anyone convinced that Milwaukee

790
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: is gonna take off? Right? They're one in five since

791
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: they've hired Doc Rivers. I don't think it was all

792
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: Adrian Griffin's fault.

793
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't think.

794
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is Doc's fault, but clearly there's

795
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: something that just isn't quite working with Milwaukee. You're one

796
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: and one against the Bucks and you play him two

797
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: more times at the end of the season. Now that

798
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: terrifies me. I think Milwaukee's going to figure it out.

799
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: Now ultimately get second in the Eastern Conference, but we

800
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't know. You go potentially as high

801
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: as fourth, maybe even third in the Eastern Conference if

802
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: you get red hot.

803
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: So the overarching theme of this edition of Pot Squad

804
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: is we're gonna be the second best team and we're

805
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: gonna win the East. We're gonna that's That's just we

806
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: just went from trying to battle for six seven into

807
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: like Dante's like, hey, you know what, screw We're winning

808
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: the East everywhere everything.

809
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: When I sit down with Josh, I sit down with

810
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Josh Cohen and he goes, you know, I kind of

811
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: ran some of the numbers, and I don't know what

812
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: that means. I don't know what that means, but I.

813
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: Know Josh saying, especially with Josh.

814
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: From Orlando Magic dot com. But I know, I I

815
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: know ninety seven percent of his life is crunching the numbers.

816
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: So I don't doubt what he says that's true. And

817
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: he said there is a path, you know, if everything

818
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: plays out how it should and this team beats this team,

819
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: and is that the Magic could get fourth in the

820
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: Eastern coprofence if he crunch the numbers.

821
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: If we go twenty nine and one for the last,

822
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: that's the number.

823
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: He's crushed the number.

824
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: But I don't doubt.

825
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that he's got the lights off in

826
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: his room and he's got a black light and he's

827
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: brighten on the walls, and he's crunching the numbers. He's

828
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: got it all figured out.

829
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: Was he doing it in black I don't know why

830
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: he's doing it there.

831
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's just how I imagine he fronts numbers about that.

832
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: He can't be doing that in black lightness.

833
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: While he's developing the film when in the back he's

834
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: got the guy.

835
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: It works better. He's got the Guy's a multi media

836
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 4: name for crying out loud.

837
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Yes, he's got a methful to the madness, believe me.

838
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: But I but anyway I look at it, I say,

839
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: they're so I don't know, we don't know what the

840
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: East is gonna look like, so could Yeah, I think

841
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: at the bare minimum risk Magic team should be fighting

842
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: like heck to get to avoid play it. I think

843
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: there's a real possibility you could grab six, maybe even

844
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: go as high as as four or five in the East.

845
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I when you look at who's playing well right now.

847
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: You mentioned Chicago, it seems like they found something. I'm

848
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: not particularly worried about them. They also lost that lavine

849
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: for the rest of the year, but you know, it

850
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 4: seems to have help.

851
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: It seems well.

852
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: But but I think long time that's fine.

853
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: And by the way, Kobe White, I think we should

854
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: probably be talking about the year that that guy's have

855
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 4: and he up and light out and Booch is playing

856
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 4: really well as of late. And they did think the

857
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: fact that they sat on their hands at the deadline

858
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 4: probably tells you that they feel okay about themselves. Either

859
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: that or they think that's the best chance to not

860
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: get everybody fired, which is probably more more.

861
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: Likely is the case.

862
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: You know, you got to get to that point this

863
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: time of year, Boston is Boston. The Cavaliers have been insane.

864
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 4: You're right about Milwaukee like there was something wrong there

865
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 4: and and I don't care if you bring in Greg Popovich.

866
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 4: You can't fix it like that immediately. No coach has

867
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 4: that much power. So we'll see. I mean, Milwaukee's got

868
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: more talent and just about anybody, but but there is

869
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: there's clearly like some issues eron. It's mostly on the

870
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: defensive end. I'm scared of New York, to be honest

871
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 4: with you, I think the question made yesterday. Absolutely they're

872
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: right up beyond that. So I just did Boston, Cleveland

873
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: and New York. I think are are playing the best

874
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: in the conference. And I think catching any of those

875
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: three I aside from that, I could see a free

876
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 4: fall for any of these teams. Indiana and unscary at all.

877
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: And the Sixers is gonna be really interesting to see

878
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 4: Ken Tyres Batsy slide into that role and carry a

879
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: team for thirty games and kind of tread water until

880
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: potentially and b plays again. I have a feeling we

881
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: won't see him again this year.

882
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: It just doesn't it with the.

883
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Way they go or open, but with how cautious they

884
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: are with him for sure. I could certainly see that

885
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: art eart.

886
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so. So you're right, and that's

887
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: where we are right now. And I think that's one

888
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: of the reasons you don't make a move and mess

889
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: with it, because you do look ahead and say, look,

890
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: if we just kind of keep doing what we're doing

891
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: right now, that's right. Even if we you know, even

892
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: if we tread water the rest of the way and

893
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: we're sitting there four games above five hundred at the

894
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 4: at the end of the season, are heading into April,

895
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: that could be good enough to be out of the

896
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: playing depending on what teams like Philadelphia and Indiana end

897
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 4: up doing. So I think you're in a good spot.

898
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 4: And it certainly helps that we have so many durn

899
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 4: home games coming up. That game homestand in March is

900
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Speaker 4: a god said, I mean, that could put you in

901
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: a good but.

902
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm well aware we wouldn't be saying any of these

903
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: things if we lost to San Antonio last night. So

904
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: this thing comes and goes counts and goes game by game,

905
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: right but right now it's set you. You're you're you're

906
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: winning the games you're supposed to win. That's all, especially

907
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: the three of us. Can you imagine if we lost

908
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: that game last night and then we got.

909
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: I mean, there'd be there would be no podcast, there.

910
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: Would be no you guys can go pound seeing when

911
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: I bought a podcast.

912
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: You're right, but you but you. But they do what

913
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. They they you know, they've struggled

914
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: at times, but they've beat some of the best teams.

915
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: But they're beating the teams they're supposed to beat. And

916
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: that's that's all you can ask for here down the

917
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: stretch real quick before we get out of here, The

918
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: Magic is going to be well represented next week and

919
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: next week on pod Squad Jake Chapman and I you're

920
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: going to catch up with with Pete delas Sandro in

921
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: the front office for the Orlando Magic. So that's gonna

922
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: be fun and salary Cap will kind of get into

923
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: some numbers and I'll be curus.

924
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: That Josh Cohen on with the black Light with Pete

925
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: on that I'm not a good point.

926
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Speaker 1: I want to compare. I want to see how he

927
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: crunches numbers as opposed to Josh Cohen.

928
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: How had you say real fast? I imagine bed a meal.

929
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: Josh Cohen that is that's perfect. That is the perfect

930
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: way to get ready for a broadcast, because I kind

931
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: of murdered no matter what, that dude is NonStop info.

932
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Speaker 2: I need one of you.

933
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: Two to add. That should be Pete. Your first question

934
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Speaker 3: to Pete is does he crunch the numbers for the

935
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Speaker 3: capin with a Black Live?

936
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Speaker 1: Yes'm fair enough.

937
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: I think that would set the tone for the podcast

938
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: next week.

939
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: I think, like the number like the movie twenty three

940
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: and everybody's just righting on the walls and with numbers.

941
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Speaker 1: But that's probably not how it is. That's probably not

942
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: how it is for all, not for all analytics people.

943
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: The Magic are going to be well represented during All

944
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: Star Weekend. This is gonna be cool guys with with

945
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: Paulo Banker obviously in the Big Game the Rising Stars Challenge,

946
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Mac McClung with the Ostiola Magic. I

947
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: think that I'd love to see that guy get a

948
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: chance with your Orlando Magic at some point. The problem

949
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: is it would come at someone's expense. And now that's

950
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: hard to look and say who you want to get

951
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: rid of, because but you want the guy to get

952
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity.

953
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: He's tearing out rid of saying, who do you want

954
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: to get rid of?

955
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh, boy, don't do that.

956
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: No, you can't know that. That's the thing. Everybody you've got.

957
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: You've got two or three guys that can I think

958
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: can really help you, but can't even get on the floor. Yeah,

959
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: you know it'd be because you've got guys in front

960
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: of you that are just offer more right now.

961
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Guy, I think you've got started to come that like

962
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: seventy games or so. That's the thing.

963
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You've got guys waiting in the wings

964
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: that are very good NBA players that just can't get

965
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: on the floor right now. So so if you even

966
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: if you added mac McClung, it's not like you could

967
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: add him on to the floor. I hope an NBA

968
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: team gives him a chance because I think he's an

969
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: NBA player. But he's going to be representing the Osteolo

970
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: Magic in the Slam Dunk Contest, and we know how

971
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: electrifying he was last year. Jalen Brown will be a

972
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: part of the Dunk Contest. This is gonna be cool, guys,

973
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: to see the magic heavily represented. You're going to get

974
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: some national attention with Shaquille O'Neil having his jersey retired

975
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: in your building. That'll be the first jersey to go

976
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: up in the Magic rafters. Kind of some fun national

977
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: attention coming Orlando's way. Finally here coming up next week.

978
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: I'm as Clario playing his first nationally televised game. Yes,

979
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 4: it has already been named an All Star. Is that

980
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: that's right?

981
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Right?

982
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: Like that's I mean, yeah, trust me, I've had lots

983
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: of count I had somebody call me from the NBA

984
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: the other day and say something about Paolo at All

985
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: Star and doing some media stuff or whatever for for

986
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: ESPN or TNT, and I was just like, well, why,

987
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: why why am I in.

988
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: A hurry days.

989
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 4: Like Adam BOYNT.

990
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: I was kidding, I was, I was, well, I was.

991
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: I had my time to cheek. But they know that,

992
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: they know that every time they bring up National TV

993
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: or something to do with the national affiliates that there

994
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: before I agree and say yes, which I which we do,

995
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna kind of give him a little jab.

996
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

997
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: We haven't been on national TV very much in the

998
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: last twelve plus years. Bill, you have the number one pick.

999
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: He was almost a unanimous Rookie of the Year and

1000
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: you still only gave us one. But I digress. Now

1001
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: see you're get me all riled up.

1002
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: But but but the counter to that is, we have

1003
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: not been four games over five hundred on February ninth

1004
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: since twenty twelve, A long time. It's twenty twelve, it is,

1005
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: and it's hard to look. It's hard to look and say, boy,

1006
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: we've got to have that team on national TV. But

1007
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: but we've had better. We have had. We have certainly

1008
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: been more deserving than no games.

1009
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: I would like I would like to hope that as teams,

1010
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: you know, we see it all the time, games get

1011
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: flexed out as the year goes on. Right, there's there's

1012
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: a long stretch here where I do think there's a

1013
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: good possibility of us getting you know, getting games picked

1014
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: up here along the way as they If we can

1015
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: keep doing what we're doing and heading into the playoffs,

1016
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: we're going to be hard to ignore. Paolo is going

1017
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 3: to be at All Star weekend. The guy is so deserving.

1018
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody's seen the night where he got you know,

1019
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: where he finally got the nod and and the reserves

1020
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: were announced. Just that feeling for him and the team

1021
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: and then everybody involved very excited for Palo, very excited

1022
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: for the Magic. Listen, this is what we've been wanting, right,

1023
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: there's craving for years and it just this is the

1024
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: light at the tunnel and this is what we've been

1025
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: hoping for and you can see it now from a

1026
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: distance and it's a very very exciting time.

1027
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: And I get Magic fans pushing for you know, dodr Wy,

1028
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: why aren't you pushing for nationally televised games. I don't

1029
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: work nationally televised games. We don't broadcast those. So when

1030
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: it's on TNT, we don't. We have the night off,

1031
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: which is cool once in a while. It'll be awesome

1032
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: on Tuesday for the Shack thing, but you're never gonna

1033
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: hear me push. I like when the games are on

1034
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: Bathley Sports Florida, when we can go up against ESPN.

1035
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: But for those that don't know, you know we we

1036
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: we are not. It's and exclusivity. TNT has the rights

1037
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: and it's not like we broadcast simultaneously. But I love

1038
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: the exposure. We got to get the exposure when we're

1039
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: in the conversation now and it's coming. Absolutely absolutely, there'll

1040
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: be more and more games, and I don't think we

1041
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: can hide from it next year for sure, and we've

1042
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: earned it, right, We've earned it, and we'll be and

1043
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Jake will be with Josie on Jet Blue looking on

1044
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: the plane right watching, watching the highlights coming back. It'll

1045
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: be it'll be a lot of fun here next week,

1046
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: all right, guys, well, good stuff. We we got thirty

1047
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: games to go and good luck to us. It'll be

1048
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: a lot of fun here. The last two months we've

1049
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: not had probably been about ten twelve years since we've

1050
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: had the kind of this excitement going into the final

1051
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: two months of a season. Let's enjoy it. Let's avoid

1052
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: the play in. Let's grab a playoff spot here in

1053
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: the next two months.

1054
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: I'll do my best, Dante, all right.

1055
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: Do your best, do your best. That'll do it for

1056
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: this edition of Magic Pod Squad. We'll see you next

1057
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: time with Pete Delessandro will join Jake and I next week.

1058
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss that on Magic Pod Squad.