1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Thanks for being here for the second 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: are rolling along here Buck in New York City, Clay 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee, and all of you across the country 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: and in some cases if you listen to the podcasts 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all over the world. Remember you can go to Clay 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: in Buck dot com to read stories about what we're 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: talking about here, and you can always listen to the 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: podcast on demand. The iHeart Apple a great place to go. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: But we're every list of podcast the Clan Buck Show. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Let's keep us in or near the top ten for 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: all podcasts. Thank you. And in the meantime, yes, right, 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: in the meantime, we've got something that I think I'll 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: start with this question for you. What is the most 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: terrifying government agency to you? Now, it could be these 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: days you would say HHS and the CDC. Fair enough, 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: fair enough. But what certainly is high up on the 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: list of government bodies that can make your life miserable. Well, 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: there's of course the DOJ. If you fall in the 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: crosshairs of the federal government, they have endless resources with 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: which to go after you. They get paid, whether you're 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: guilty or not. They can ruin you merely with the investigation. 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: And where do you go to get your reputation back? 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Where you going to get the money back that you'll use. 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: You'll probably go bankrupt defending yourself against the federal government. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: So when they are politicized at the DOJ and going 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: after people, that's very concerning. Maybe we'll come back to 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: how Mark Garland, the Attorney General, put out a statement 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: yesterday from the DOJ about concerns over parents, saying they 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: say threats, but I'm gonna tell you now, probably just 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: mean things to teachers. This is now adj you know, 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: the FBI maybe showing up on your front steps saying 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: did you call the teachers unions a bunch of lazy 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: thugs or don't care about kids? Which would yes, I 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: probably did say all those things. But the FBI may 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: be showing up on your front steps to ask you 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: that question and sometime soon. But the IRS, I think 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, if you've ever had any 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: interaction with them, probably the most terrifying government body that 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: you'd be dealing with on a regular basis, because they're 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: incentivized to harass you and to make an example of you, 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: and we know the Democrats have weaponized them in the past. 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm bringing this up because there's a seventy billion dollar 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: additional funding request in this reconciliation bill that is stalled, 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: but not over. They're gonna pass something, folks. It's just 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: a question whether it's two trillion. Well, Clay, and I 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: said to you last week is true. They're gonna pass 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: both an infrastructure and a reconciliation bill. They're just haggling 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: over the price, right now. That's all this is trying 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: to get their little piece of it done. But seventy 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: billion dollars for the IRS and also unrestricted access to 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: all accounts with six hundred dollars in them or six 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: hundred dollars of total transactions in a year. And that's 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: not with a war into anything else. They just have 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: access to your bank accounts. Clay. When I hear they're 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: going to be hiring thousands of additional IRS agents, they're 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: going to be giving them basically open season on any 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: bank account with six hundred dollars or more. No one 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: thinks that makes you a millionaire. A billionaire's not a 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: lot of money. And then on top of it, the 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: socialist rhetoric and the massive spending demands and the claim 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: that there's going to be zero costs attached to this, 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: that the rich will pay for it. To me, this 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: is like unleashing the hounds of the IRS on the 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: American people in a way that should be really concerning. 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: I think this should worry people. I think a hundred 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: percent it should worry people. And let's talk about a 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: couple of reasons why. First of all, we know that 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: the IRS under Barack Obama was targeting for investigations conservative groups. 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: So we have already proven in recent history it's not 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: as that long ago that the IRS will use power 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: that it is given in order to focus on groups 74 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: that have a differing political agenda than certainly liberals in 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: positions of power. So and by the way, it could 76 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: be in the future that there is a conservative president 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: who decides to go after liberal groups. I don't think 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: either one of those are right. And I am highly 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: skeptical of the government having access to more of our 80 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: information period, regardless of your politics. But we know specifically 81 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: that Democrats have abused that power in recent history to 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: investigate conservatives based specifically on their political beliefs. So why 83 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: do we believe that wouldn't happen again, I have zero 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: faith in the government to evenly apply this standard to 85 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: all people. Okay, so let's star aren't there second part 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: of this buck. They are selling a false bill of 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: goods to justify this funding growth, And let me explain 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: what they're saying. They are effectively looking at the revenue 89 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: that the IRS spends now and the revenue that the 90 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: IRS generates by investigating tax returns and saying, hey, right now, 91 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: for every dollar we spend, we get back five dollars okay, 92 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: in return. And let me just pause here for a moment, 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: because I have some pretty good experience from a business 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: perspective with the fact that that doesn't continue forever. And 95 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: let me explain an example. So anybody out there who 96 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: has ever bought advertising knows that what you look at 97 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: is the return that you get on the money that 98 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: you spend. And by the way, if you're listening to 99 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: this and right now you have a big business or 100 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: small business or any business at all, you should be 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: advertising on this show because you get a great return 102 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: on your investment. All right, But if you spend. Let's say, like, 103 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example, Buck, do you know what 104 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: bud Light used to spend. I know because they would 105 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: spend some money with me in sports advertising a loan. 106 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Their budget was seven hundred and fifty million dollars. You've 107 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: ever been to a sporting event and bud Light is 108 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: the official beer of insert team here. You see their 109 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: placards everywhere. Bud Light looked at the revenue that they 110 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: generated based on the money that they spend, and they said, 111 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty million dollars is what we should 112 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: spend in the world of sports. Bud Light looks at 113 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: that and says, hey, this is the sweet spot for 114 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: us on expense versus revenue. If they spent seven point 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: five billion dollars on advertising, they wouldn't get the same return. 116 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: In other words, as you spend money, your return diminishes. 117 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: And what they are doing right now is engaging in 118 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: magical accounting, Buck, because they're saying, if we drastically increase 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: what we end on IRS investigations, our yield is going 120 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: to remain the same. That doesn't fit business reality. They 121 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: are selling a lie. You're approaching this though from the 122 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: perspective of somebody who would actually care what the return 123 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: on investment is in dollars and cents, because I have 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: a business background in some way. But the Democrats don't. 125 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: This is the problem here is that they're they're lying 126 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to people, and you're right about your math and the 127 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: way that they're going. But but really, what this is 128 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: allows for a massive expansion of the government wing that 129 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: is most capable of targeted harassment individuals. Of course, it's 130 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: not going to pay for itself, but they know that 131 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: this is about creating thousands and thousands more IRS agents 132 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: who are going to be part of the bureaucracy. By 133 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: the way, they're gonna be Democrats overwhelmingly. They're gonna be 134 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: people that believe in the Party of this state and 135 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: want to support the Democrats. What people think that it's 136 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: just the FBI, the CIA, the the Department of Education, 137 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: the State Department that are overrun with leftist ideologues. You 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: kidding me? I mean the Plenty of Business, Plenty of 139 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the yeah, plenty of the Department of the you know, 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: the Environmental Protection Agency, Plenty of these places have leftists 141 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and statists running around who have in ideological agenda. Lois 142 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Learner you mentioned at the IRS. Yeah, a big shock, Clay, 143 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: A big surprise to all of us, right that in 144 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: the election year of Barack Obama re election twenty twelve, 145 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: after the Tea Party she lack Democrats in twenty ten, 146 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all these Tea Party groups aren't 147 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: getting their charter approved by you know, their their tax 148 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: exempt status approved, aren't getting or are getting audited. I mean, 149 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: the amount of groups that they suppressed. We don't know 150 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: what effect that actually could have in the election. We 151 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: never will. But they're doing this seventy billion dollars for 152 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: additional IRS funding. And the part of it that drives 153 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: me so insane is one, they'll be politicized targeting, which 154 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: I think we both know it agree on. And two, 155 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, millionaires and the billionaires you know, as Bernie 156 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: would say, they don't suffer as a result of IRA. 157 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: They've got accountants that'll take care of this, They've got lawyers, 158 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: and they have all the resources to fight it. And 159 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: the loopholes that do exist in our seventy thousand plus 160 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: page tax code will be abused by and continue to 161 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: be abused by the very rich. What they're doing is 162 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: often not illegal, it's just gross. Right, there are carve 163 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: outs and tax shelters that they have access to. What 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: actually ends up happening is a small business owner who's 165 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: listening to this. You know, maybe maybe you're you're somehow 166 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: getting audited and now you owe fifty grand that you 167 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: just don't have and you don't have the money to 168 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: fight it. And that's the frustrating thing. Right, Like, if 169 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: you are a billionaire or you're a hundred millionaire, as 170 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: much as you may not like to do it, you 171 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: can afford to pay for the warriors and the accountants 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: that are necessary to go head to head with the irs. 173 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: And both of these logic basises are incredibly flawed, and 174 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I think they're relatively easy to explain. You're not going 175 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: to get the same yield on the dollars. So when 176 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to say, hey, if we spend eighty billion, 177 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: we're going to get back three hundred billion or whatever 178 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: it is and unpaid taxes, the more you spend, the 179 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: less the yield becomes. That is an economic reality. I 180 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: understand that lots of people in the Democratic Party don't 181 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: understand economic reality, but that's the truth. I'm here to 182 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: tell you. And then the other part is we know 183 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be used the money to focus on 184 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: conservatives or people basically outside the realm of acceptable And 185 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: I put that in quotation marks opinion in this modern era, 186 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: because the Democrats have already done it before. So the Republicans, 187 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: to me, should be fighting this in a big way, 188 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be fighting it on the battleground that 189 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats want to fight. They should be fighting about 190 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: making those two arguments, because I think they're particularly powerful 191 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: and perceptive, and I think most reasonable people understand it. 192 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I also want to tell some folks about who a 193 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: senior office of the Comptroller of the Currency pick. I 194 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: know that sounds boring, but it's an office that oversees 195 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: important banking policy for the US government and the Treasury Department. 196 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: And who they want to put in charge of this 197 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: thirty person office somebody who not only comes from the 198 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: Soviet Union, which is fine. A lot of patriots actually 199 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: come to America legally from the former Soviet Union and 200 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: understand how important and precious freedom is because of the 201 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,239 Speaker 1: tyranny they left. But this is a person in Clay 202 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: who still has some fondness for the old Soviet system 203 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: and compares the US to it like Birnie pretty much. 204 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: There's there's some weird stuff, so I want to address that. 205 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Her name is sale Amarova. Janet Yellen's coming to our defense. 206 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: But when you find out the kind of people that 207 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: are in the senior ranks of finance, banking, regulatory policy 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: of the Biden administration, you have people that are either 209 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: true elitists who just want to make sure that nobody 210 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: they want to pull the ladder up after themselves, make 211 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: sure nobody else has a show to grow wheel real 212 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: wealth and assets, or you've got people that are kind 213 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: of stealth commies. But we can come back to this 214 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: in a few minutes. 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But we're talking now about 261 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: a story that's probably not going to get that much attention, 262 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: and that is this massive funding increase that is being 263 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: demanded for the IRS, ostensibly to lead to more revenue 264 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: through more investigations on behalf of the IRS and two 265 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: big issues here. One, the IRS has been proven to 266 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: be politically focused in terms of who it focuses on, 267 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: which is a monstrous deal when you look at the 268 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: power that the IRS wields and who they decide to 269 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: investigate and who they don't decide to investigate. Second part 270 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: of this, the revenue that they are likely to produce 271 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: is going to be are less than they project, because 272 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: it's the law of diminishing returns. As you spend more 273 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: money doing something, the value of that declines. Anybody who 274 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: has ever run a business knows it. Otherwise, you could 275 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: spend all of your money on advertising and your revenue 276 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: would continue to grow forever. That doesn't happen. At some 277 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: point you get the law of diminishing returns, and that 278 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I believe would happen very quickly with the IRS. But 279 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Buck you teased as we went to break a fairly 280 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: significant factor here, which is that many of the people 281 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: who would be involved in this issue are likely to 282 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: be incredibly politically biased, including people in high positions of 283 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: authority like the person you just tease. I mean, there's 284 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen, for example, who is herself, of course, a 285 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: multi millionaire and an elitist, and she is supporting Janet 286 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Yellen as the secretary, as a Treasury secretary is supporting 287 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: the candidacy of sale Amarova. That's from the Daily Mail today. 288 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: For the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. Now 289 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: you might say, yeah, who cares. That is an agency 290 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: within US Treasury. It's a thirty five hundred person office 291 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,239 Speaker 1: that sets bank policies, dealing with mergers, acquisitions, and expanding 292 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: digital trade. Pretty big things. Now. Amarova graduated from Moscow 293 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: State University in nineteen eighty nine. She went there on 294 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: a scholarship named after Vladimir Lenin, which is interesting. But 295 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: of course she grew up with the Soviet Union. Not 296 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: not who I mean. Like I said, there are so 297 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: many great immigrants to America who come from the former 298 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Soviet Union, but they hate the economic policies of the 299 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: former Soviet Union, which is why they came here. Miss Amarova, 300 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: on the other hand, tweeted in twenty nineteen Clay, until 301 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: I came to the US, I couldn't imagine that things 302 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: like the gender pay gaps still existed in today's world. 303 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Say what you will about the USSR there was no 304 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: gender pay gap. Yeah, nobody really got pays write right, Yeah, 305 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: there was no pay gap because there was really no 306 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: pay But this is somebody who would have a very 307 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: senior role in a large agency of the Treasury Department. 308 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: She also has called for radically reshaping the basic architecture 309 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: and dynamics of modern finance. That's a quote, including nationalizing 310 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: retail banking and having the Federal Reserve directly allocate credit 311 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to individuals, and wants to quote end banking as we 312 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: know it end quote. Oh yeah, let's put this person 313 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: in charge of a major agency of the Treasury Department. 314 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Clay seems like kind of a big flaw there. This 315 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: reminds me of how people in Cuba when our socialist 316 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: here in the United States, when they try to defend Cuba, 317 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: they talk about how everybody's so equal. Yeah, they're all 318 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: equally in having nothing right. And this is why so 319 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: many people who have fled socialist regimes, particularly in South 320 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: America and come to America, have turned so fervently in 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: favor of the Republican Party in Capital. M Buck, what 322 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: you got for us? 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Welcome back to the Clay and Buck Show. 341 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: We will talk to you a little bit about the 342 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Facebook so called whistleblower who increasingly seems to me like 343 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: a Democrat activist who's hoping to get left wing legislation 344 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: past if possible, to allow for even greater censorship of 345 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: conservatives online, while throwing in some stuff about how it's 346 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: all about protecting the children. Really January six and how 347 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: also comes up in the conversation, but it's about protecting 348 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: the children. Sure, we'll discuss what's really happening there with 349 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: the five hour outage yesterday a Facebook and Instagram. Obviously 350 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: Facebook owns Instagram, and there were some people who were 351 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: completely freaked out. What am I gonna do if I 352 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: can't post selfies? It's a fair question. Read a book, 353 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: ll take a walk, spend time with family. But we 354 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: have a border crisis still unfolding, and just wait until 355 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: you see the numbers this month summer, expecting it could 356 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: be the highest ever in one month. I mean that 357 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: is a realistic possibility right now. And you're looking at 358 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: fifteen to sixty thousand Haitian migrants or migrants of Haitian 359 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: origin making their way up from South America to the 360 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: US Mexican border. As we speak, we have Congressman Andy 361 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Biggs of Arizona with US now border state of course, 362 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: talk to us about what's going on. Here, Congressman, thanks 363 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: so much. Hey, thanks guys, good to be with you. 364 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Tell us, what are you expecting. I mean, I'm seeing 365 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: that the border governors and some folks along the border 366 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: border patrol certainly feel like they're about to get inundated 367 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: with illegal crossing, perhaps more than ever before. And the 368 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Biden administration maybe all time high. Yeah, this is no 369 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: doubt being all time high because because of the way 370 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: we count now. But what we're facing, and this is 371 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: important to understand. You see a group of about sixty thousand, 372 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: This is a mass migration, a mass migration of about 373 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: sixty thousand folks of Haitian origin who are living in 374 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: South and Central America are coming up. They're organized somehow. 375 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: This is not organic. Somebody is bringing him here at 376 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: the same time, though, and this is what's critical is 377 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: don't forget that you're getting somewhere just between nine and 378 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: ten thousand people a day, every day coming across the 379 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: entire southern border from McCallan to San Diego. That's what's 380 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: happening on a daily basis. That has already got the 381 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: border patrol in many areas, whether it's Tucson, Yuma, Rio 382 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Grand they're they're over They're being overrun right now with 383 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: just this higher than average number. But now what you're 384 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: going to have is you're going to see this sixty thousand, 385 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: and that's just in one migratory group. They'll be additional 386 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: groups that come because this administration has put out the 387 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: welcome sign for the whole world. Represent bigs, appreciate you 388 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: coming on where this is clay I asked the question, 389 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I still think it's a good one. Would things change 390 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: if some of the news channels put a daily ticker 391 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: with illegal immigrants coming into the country like they have 392 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: with COVID for the last eighteen months and we actually 393 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: saw because you can say, hey, there's x number of 394 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: people coming in the forecast, potentially four hundred thousand people 395 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: this month. Would that change the way that people respond 396 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: because right now, it feels like the only time people 397 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: really get upset about the border is when a situation 398 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: goes viral and then the Biden administration solves del Rio 399 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Texas by just basically letting a huge percentage of those 400 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: people into the country, and many people pretend that the 401 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: situation has been solved. Yeah, that's a fantastic idea, because 402 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: I just don't think people get it. You're right, I mean, 403 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: and if you've got to change a narrative and provide awareness, 404 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: the way to do it is through constant and repetitive 405 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: information that shows and demonstrates the severity of the crisis. 406 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people say, oh, it doesn't 407 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: affect me. Well, the increased opioids and sentinel deaths that 408 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: are coming across the border. That affects you in your community, 409 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: because every place right now, if you go and you 410 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: talk to folks in the border patrol, they're going to 411 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: tell you the cartels have somebody in every place. Everybody's affected, 412 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: but you just don't necessarily feel it. And if you 413 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: don't feel it, then you can't acknowledge the severity of 414 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: the crisis. And this is a humanitarian crisis, it's a 415 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: national security crisis. It's the crisis of the rule of 416 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: law and who we are as American people, which is 417 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: based on the rule of law. So I love the idea, 418 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: and you know, you're right. They cleaned up that fifteen 419 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: thousand and about eight days, but it wasn't fifteen thousand, 420 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: it was twenty six thousand, and they all except for 421 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: about twenty five hundred, have already been dispersed throughout the country. 422 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: It's a wild unbelievable. I mean, that's a number that 423 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Congress makes. What was it again, If you said it 424 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: was actually because fifteen thousands what they were all reporting on, 425 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: you say it's actually twenty six thousand. And the total 426 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: number of those deported meaning not let into the US 427 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: twenty six hundred. Out of twenty six thousand, something like 428 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred they removed or expelled as a better 429 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: way of saying it. The rest were dispersed throughout the 430 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: country got in. That's amazing, no, no wonder. I mean 431 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: when you look at those numbers, and we're speaking to 432 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: Congressman Andy Biggs for anybody joining us from Arizona knows 433 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: the border issue, the legal immigration issue, very very well, 434 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: and I've been speaking to Congressman Biggs about this for years. Congressmen, 435 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: it seems as though obviously the incentive is in place 436 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: for more legal crossing, which is what we're going to 437 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: see this month. But there it also seems like we're 438 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: living in two different political realities when it comes to 439 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: legal immigration. It feels like the Democrats, as long as 440 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: they don't have what looks like an actual refugee camp 441 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: on the border. They feel like they won't pay any 442 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: short term political consequences and over the long term they're 443 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: bringing in more likely Democrat voters. Is that how you 444 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: see it? How do we get things to be different 445 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: from that reality? Well, that is exactly the right frame 446 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: of this thing. Because last week in one of our 447 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: committee hearings, I was raising the this issue and others 448 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: were on my side. We're raising the issue, and we 449 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: had a Houston congresswoman sit there and say the border 450 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: is sovereign and secure. That's a quote, and that's it. 451 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: Could nothing could be further than the truth. I mean, 452 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: you can go down there now, be down there again 453 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: next week. I was down there last week. I mean 454 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: you can go down there over and over and over 455 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: again like I do, and you're going to see always 456 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: how poorous our border is. And they want this. They 457 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: never forget they campaigned on an open border policy. This 458 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: is what they campaigned on. This is what they wanted. 459 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: And you know the result is they're going to provide 460 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: all these benefits, let all these people. The catching releases 461 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: up like four hundred thousand percent over the previous high. Ever, 462 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: this is going to change the political landscape of this country, 463 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: because sooner or later, these people are going to seek 464 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: for and receive some kind of amnesty, and when they do, 465 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: the Democrats they'll be the ones who give it to them, 466 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: and they'll be the ones hoping to have the votes 467 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: because they've provided the free entry into the country illegally 468 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: and the free entry into the citizenship and voting rights 469 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: by giving amnesty. Represented bigs shifting gears a little bit 470 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: off the border. You're in Arizona. We had the viral 471 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: videos of Senator Cinema in your state, at Arizona State 472 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: being chased. Now there's videos of her on an airplane 473 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: also being confronted and harassed about the political issues. Joe 474 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Biden said, it's just a part of the process. I 475 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: know that she is a Democrat, you are a Republican, 476 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts when you see those videos 477 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: and what did you think of Joe Biden's response. Well, 478 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's response was weak, as it is on everything, 479 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: which is why we have such horrific domestic and international policy. 480 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: So he's weak on everything, he's wrong on everything. But 481 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: in this instance, it's it's important to see these people 482 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: getting up in the Kirsten's face as senators Cinema's face 483 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: while she is in what most people say, that's kind 484 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: of a zone of privacy. I have had those experiences, 485 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: oddly enough, and it is really bizarre and for people 486 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: to justify this. In my opinion, this is just one 487 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: more sign that we're moving to a kind of a 488 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: proto fascist form of government where it is okay to 489 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: try to intimidate someone who disagrees with your position, not 490 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: intimidate politically say we're going to remove you from office. 491 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: This is one where they're getting up in your face 492 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: and they're intimidating you physically, and that is something that 493 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: this country should not tolerate. I mean, it's okay to 494 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: have divergent opinions, it's okay to express those opinions. It's 495 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: not okay to basically follow somebody into the restroom and 496 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: just you know, brate them getting their face on planes 497 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: in public places. This is absurd and I'm just afraid 498 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: this is the bad way we're going and it's a 499 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: fascist approach in my opinion. Congressman, any bigs of Arizona, Congressman, 500 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: always appreciate you coming by. Thanks so much. Face guys, 501 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: play face but appreciate you if you want to call in, 502 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: what do you think about the crisis at the border 503 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: or the latest on I still want to know how 504 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: they can they can try to justify not having better numbers, 505 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: really any numbers to speak of in a consolidated form 506 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: that are easy to access on COVID Breakthrough cases eight 507 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred two two two eight eight two. We will get 508 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: to some of the Facebook whistleblower big tech social media 509 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: situation coming up in the third hour, as well as 510 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: more on COVID. So that's coming up. 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And she's already said that what she wants 538 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: I know there's some people out there like, oh, she's 539 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: such a hero. She's already said that what she wants 540 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: Facebook doing more of is actually censorship. That's her big 541 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: issue is Facebook is not censoring enough. And I think 542 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: we all know how censorship is going to go. Who 543 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: will end up being the victims more so of censorship, 544 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: it's conservative thought. It's anything that goes against the corporate 545 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: hegemony which is currently ruling everywhere in big tech. So 546 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: we're going to discuss why that is potentially a big deal. 547 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot. You just heard us talking 548 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: with represent Andy Biggs, and you know, the world's gone 549 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: upside down when Republicans have to come out and defend 550 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: Democrats from being harassed by Democratic voters. But that's where 551 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: we are ever since Maxine Waters told everybody get in 552 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 1: the face, confront them. And I still think buck and 553 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't happen, but I feel like the 554 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: way we have set things up is violence comes from 555 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: this right. When you tell people that they're in the 556 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: right and argue that they need to confront people on 557 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: a physical basis, sooner or later, it leads to violence. 558 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: We've seen that happen all too often in our politics, 559 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like that is where we are headed. Yeah, 560 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: by the way, it wasn't Maxine Waters idea. She just 561 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: said it out loud. At a time when that was 562 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: happening a lot right. I mean, the left has embraced 563 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: the tactics and you can go back even to a 564 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Lynskyite tactics and rules for radicals and the approach to 565 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: community organizing and direct action and making things uncomfortable for people, 566 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: essentially runting people and trying to coerce them without breaking 567 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: the law, but by doing things. Although we don't know, 568 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: it seems whether there was a law broken in the 569 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: bastion with Cinema, it feels like that because there's a statute, 570 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: and from what I understand, it's not that clear even 571 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: in the statute in Arizona, but it certainly feels like 572 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: that's a violation of privacy and something that should be prohibited. 573 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: But I do think that we've also tended towards a 574 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: media apparatus that will make excuses for this stuff as 575 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: long as it's on the side that they like. I mean, 576 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: they were they were not outraged. They were not angry 577 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: about the people who were shrieking like lunatics at Trump 578 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: administration officials or Josh Holly who showed up at their homes. 579 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: When I lived in DC, there used to be and 580 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say it was not for me. But 581 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: they would gather in a building that I lived in, 582 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: a mob on Sunday and they would wear like, I 583 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know, like chicken suit, and they would clang symbols together, 584 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: and they had a past and they would make all 585 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: this noise, really trying to intimidate somebody at the residence. 586 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't for me. It was for Stephen Miller, who 587 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: worked for the president in the White House, and he 588 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: lived around the corner on the other side of the block. 589 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: But they thought that he lived in my side of 590 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: this complex. And so they would gather a riding under 591 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: port Old Buck's window. Who might have been a little 592 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: hungover on Sunday, and I'd hear the lights. Why do 593 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: you not? Why do you not? We know, like because 594 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: of all immigration stuff, and I want to I mean, like, 595 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: of course, I look, I wouldn't sell out step in 596 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: this way. But there was a party one it'd be like, 597 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: wrong part of the building, you morons, go to the 598 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: other side. If I was hung over and I was 599 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: tired and they were screaming and they were waking me up, 600 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I might have opened the window and been like, hey, guys, 601 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: you're in the wrong building, you got bad info. I 602 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: support you, even though it's not true. You're just waking 603 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: up a fellow brother here who's all in favor of 604 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: open borders and everything else. Hey, when you're hungover and 605 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: you need sleep, I don't. I don't begrudge that all. Now. 606 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you see this stuff all the time, and 607 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: they don't, they don't condemn it. And I will say, 608 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: I think I just actually saw a video. I don't 609 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: even know where it was, somewhere where there are other 610 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: people who seem to be conservatives gathered outside of politicians house. No, 611 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: we don't do that. Don't do that. Knock that crap off. 612 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: We have other means of making our voices heard and 613 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: organizing it. We cannot be them on these things. I'm 614 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: not somebody who says, oh, we only need to police 615 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: the actions of the right and let the left. No. 616 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: I want to take the fight to the left. But 617 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: it makes it a lot harder for all of us 618 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: to talk about the lunacy that ninety five times or 619 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: ninety nine times out of a hundred comes from their side, 620 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: just because a few people on our side decide that 621 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna mirror the tactics of the left in some 622 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: political way. It's not a good idea. We spent six 623 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: months with riots all over the country totally justified and overlooked. 624 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: One riot involves conservatives, and we've spent months talking about 625 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: how it's a threat to democracy itself. Condemocrats in Congress 626 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: are going to spend the this whole year bringing it 627 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: up as much as they can periodically, just just injecting 628 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: it back in the news cycle. That's what I think. 629 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: We've got a call relating to our discussion of the 630 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: irs to begin the second hour. Buck, is that right? Yes, 631 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: David and Memphis. What do you got for us? David? 632 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: The tenth fifteen deadline for extensions. But I took a 633 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: little break and I heard you mentioned the word loophole. 634 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: And the thing that bos me most is we lose 635 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: the language every day that conservatives do. We accept the 636 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: premise of the left, but loophole is the law. There's 637 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: no There's not like there's some second set of books, 638 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: there's some second set of tax rules for people who 639 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: make more money than other people. I hate the words 640 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: Richard Pors just the same way. It's it's a stupid right, 641 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, what the tax code I mean, you 642 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: know a lot more about the actual taxcod that I knew, David, 643 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: no question. But I mean the tax code is what 644 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: four thousand pages for a reason ridiculous. It's because there's 645 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in there that are giveaways to 646 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: certain people in certain art not science, right. I mean, 647 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people miss. If you're an accountant, Yeah, 648 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: it's where all the power base, the guvernm that comes from. 649 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 1: As you get lobbyists to bribe, but lobby lobbying sounds 650 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: better than bribe. You get them to write special laws, 651 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: and then they act like they're surprise if there's a 652 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: quote unquote loophole there. It's the law you guys wrote. 653 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: You guys supposedly wrote it and read it, and then 654 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: you act like it's some kind of nefarious thing snug 655 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: in in the dark of night by some other group. 656 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: They wrote the wall, They vote on the law, and 657 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: then they go out and pander to people who don't 658 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: understand it. It's like me looking at a car engine 659 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: and calling a carburetor a thing with you because I'm 660 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: not a mechanic, so I don't know what it is. 661 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: So I just put some turn to it because I 662 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: don't understand. I have David do my taxes. David sounds 663 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: squared away on this stuff. David, thanks for calling in 664 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: for members the truth Bucks. I've gotten more money and 665 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: they gotten more complicated tax code. I could have ten 666 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: different accountants tell me ten different numbers that I would owe, 667 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: and they could all have a justifiable basics. And getting 668 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: ready to getting ready for the irs on steroids to 669 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: come knock it at the Travis and Sexton household too. 670 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: Going to happen. We're gonna be talking about Facebook, the 671 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: so called whistleblower. I'm not buying it and get into it. 672 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 673 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: EIB Network