WEBVTT - Did Deon Sell Us Out 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.760 When I right, y'all, I'm across the usc Compton match 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.720 Bank to l A from on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.320 We represent that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.119 reil on your side of your town, you tune into 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.880 Gangster Chronicles Chronic Goals. We're gonna tell you how we go. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.440 If I line my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.360 gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:33.760 the Chronicles. This is not your average show. You're now 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.199 tuned into the rail m c A, Big James and 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:47.400 Big Spills from the streets. Hello, Welcome to the Gangster 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.240 Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio and Black 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.760 Effect Podcast Network. 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You know what 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.120 I'm saying, hit them, hit them weights and Ship. No, 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.000 I've just been sucking around, you know, uh with the kids. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.839 You know what I'm saying, trying to get him ready. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.440 So I figured Ship, if he gonna be working out 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.560 every day you don't give me, you know, trying to 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.720 get ready for the next level, then I might as 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.720 well get myself in there too. Yeah. Sure, looks like 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:54.760 you can two piece of nigga. Mm hmm what they do? 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.120 So are we cracking it off? What we What we 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.760 got to talk about? Man? You did you know what 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.640 I want to tell? I just want to start off. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:09.880 And and you know, I know everybody been hearing about 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:15.560 my man Beon, right, m hmm. What's your opinion on that? Still? 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.800 I think Deon deal with the hell he was supposed 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.360 to do, and we as black people, got a bad 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.080 always trying to tell somebody what to do. Right. The 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.799 first thing about it is Dion went in the Jackson 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.760 State I think it was maybe three years ago, right, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:37.680 turned the whole program around, spent his own money building 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:42.120 them a new practice field, spent his own money every time. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.920 See the problem me was every time Dion went to 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.519 the administration to ask for some more, some money for something. Hey, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.359 the keys need food or you gotta figure that out, Deon, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.360 the keys need this. You gotta figure out Dan. For 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.680 Christ's sakes, how long is the man supposed to spend 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.000 his own money. It ain't like Dean ain't playing football 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.080 in twenty five years though. It's not like he had 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.160 a pile of money just sitting somewhere. I think Dean 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.919 did what he was supposed to do, because that's the 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.359 problem man. As black people, we have a problem of 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.200 speaking out of turn on somebody else's situation all the 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.960 time and not knowing what the hell we're talking about. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.760 Half the time, it was people actually mad at Dean 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.880 standards for leaving the school. Dean did what he should 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.000 have did because the problem with them HBCUs Deon can 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.120 fix it by itself. Even if Dean would have went 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.440 over there and stayed there, all he would have been 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.359 just had the program where he would have been beating 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.160 the shell of every other team in his whack. Every 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.680 week that wouldn't have been no fun. Dan did what 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.240 he's supposed to do. Because I'm gonna tell you what 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.880 the problem is now in college football is we don't 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.120 have enough coaches that can relate to our kids. And 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.360 when I talk about our kids, you already got kids 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.920 coming in with PTSD at high school. You got the company, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.080 and they suffered from property. So in some cases they 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.480 hundreds of miles from home and their mama don't got 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.880 no money to come there and see him. Right, So 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.760 you got this white coach, and shame bag. Is there 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.839 some great white coaches out there? Right? So this ain't 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.720 about black and white. This is about culture. When you 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.960 got a kid that's coming from the hood, he's gonna 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.800 come in a certain way. He's gonna be very raw 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.120 because in a lot of times, a lot of a 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.480 lot of cases, he hasn't had that parental father figure 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.120 in the house. You feel what I mean? Everybody is 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.320 not gonna be like Corn or Chris. Do you feel 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.080 what I'm saying? That got a daddy at home and 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.479 tell him what to do. So those kids need a 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.960 certain other level of attention, and sometimes that comes in 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.240 the form of a black coach. We got plenty of 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.480 black assistant coaches broke, but on the B one level, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.240 it ain't. It ain't a lot of us. That's why 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.000 I always route for a brother when he gets them jobs. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.880 I rooted for the brother Dante when he got the 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.159 job at s C and the interroom I wrote. I 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:44.800 rooted for the brother that not the dame when he 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:50.000 got that job. And I'm rooted for den in agenda 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.799 to where I'm gonna do this and then I can. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:59.120 I mean, that's James, that's a lot of I mean, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:07.080 if I'm m you talked to certain people, you know, uh, students, Uh, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:13.040 people who represent hbc U, s um. You know, the 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:17.400 emotions are kind of mixed. Uh. Some people feel you know, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:24.000 maybe he used Jackson State is a stepping stone, uh, 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.880 because he wanted to coach at Florida State and they 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.800 turned him down. So that's how you know. UM, so 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.320 that can have just been proven a point. But my 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:40.120 thing is, you know, um, at what level do you 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:46.719 feel like you know quote you know your blackness? Is 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:54.000 that question because you know, any time you working in 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.359 this situation, I mean, if you work, you want to 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.760 be promoted, right, you want to be you know the 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.520 quest of you as a man or getting to a 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.640 certain statue or status is to become there. You know, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.839 if you start at the bottom, like they say, you 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.920 start out at the bottom and you want to reach 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:18.640 the top. So do you feel that his top plateau 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.599 should have stopped at Jackson State? I think you should 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.800 have just continued there because what you did with those kids, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:32.400 the kids love that dude, and he did something like 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.480 I mean, he really worked with those cats. He won 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:42.159 football games. But you know to leave, why leave? Well, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.240 he had to, James, because that's situation. There wouldn't have 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.000 gotten no better. Bro. See, look, let me explain something 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:49.880 to you and James, I understand why you feel the 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.599 way you feel. Right, There's a lot of stuff that 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.960 goes into running the program, right, especially when you start 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.200 talking about the difference between the Jackson State un Let's 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.480 say even UM even in Colorado, Colorado was not a UM. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.600 It's a Power five program. But they have they've been 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.680 losing for a long time. Right, Even with that, they 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.320 have certain resources from the stadium to the food. The 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.960 kids heed to travel a lot of times in the swag, 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.960 those guys kicking the buses the games. So just imagine 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.760 you're getting off the bus on a twelve or eighteen 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.760 hour drive, right then you gotta go play a game. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.800 You an't got no money for hotels. As soon as 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.320 you go out there and play the game, you're happing 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.760 right back on the bus and you're going back to 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.840 you know, you're going back home, right So I think 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.000 with dan Man, I don't think he hadn't hit me gender. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.920 I think he would have stayed there had they done 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.040 the right things. But he spent a lot of his 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.680 own money, James. You know, he spent a couple of 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.880 million dollars building their practice facility for them his own money. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.840 Every time he went to the administration to ask for something, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.000 they would pretty much tell him, you handle it. After 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.280 a while, you gotta get tired. And plus, my thing 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.480 is this, you gotta think about eight Dean played football 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.120 a long time ago. He just sitting on a billion 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.200 dollars like that. I'm pretty sure his paper is straight. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.280 But how long? And what's wrong with him? Progression? Because 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.560 he is my thing. White folks have the privilege of 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.920 going somewhere stand lying to a bunch of kids and 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.360 getting the funk on. They do it to nobody question them, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.960 But we do it in progress. Everybody mad off us 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.040 and we gotta take the motion out of it. Man, 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.800 And he applaud him for the time they did have them, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.160 because he did some great things for that program. He 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.400 brought a lot of light to it. And he taking 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.120 those kids with him because they just made a new 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.280 rule that a kid can transfer one time without a question. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.360 He taking all those guys that came in with him, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.200 So he ain't been disloyal to nobody. Unlike some of 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.560 these other coaches. They will go their recruit keids lied 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.920 to him, get their bonus and get on that. After 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.839 my son when he first went to college, man a 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.600 coach lied to him all the way up there. As 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.319 soon as my son enrote, the dude was out of there. Damn. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.360 So it's a dirty game, man, And I'm not mad 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.120 at them for leaving Man not at least big can. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:09.160 But can progression be I mean, like I said, yeah, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:14.000 everything is to reach a certain point. Right. You're high 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.360 school football coach, you wanna maybe coach college one day? Right? 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:24.600 You're a college coach, you want to coach NFL one day? Right? Yes, sir, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:32.640 is your loyalty and question because of your progression in 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.200 this and in this. In this case, probably yes, yes, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.120 even though I don't. I don't agree with it, but 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.719 I feel because the average person thinks like James, you've 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.120 gotta understand. The average person at home don't know the 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.640 inner workings of football program. Hell, I don't know everything 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.280 that go on behind the scenes because I'm not privy 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.480 to it. Right, But on one case, I can see 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.880 where the brothers may be. Man Like man, Diann was 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.640 our savior. He was supposed to do this. He was 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.000 supposed to make the hbcun because at the time, I'm 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.199 not gonna lie. It was pretty exciting because I had 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.079 the thought of my head, like man gets amazing that 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.680 for all the five stars start going to xbc US 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.880 because he Back in the day, a lot of those schools, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:15.160 like the Alabama's, Florida's UM, a number of schools didn't 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.040 even let black kids go to their school. This is 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.239 just in the sixties on up to the early seventies. 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.520 They didn't allow black kids to go there. And SC 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.080 was actually one of the only programs back in the 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.520 all black keys to play. That's what made Alabama changed 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.320 the whole thing around. Alabama had all these white kids 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.040 that have been winning games. USC went down there and 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.880 hooked their years. They couldn't stop them brothers. Was Compton 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.600 running the brothers long beach, running the rock on them. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.360 It was too much that Bear Bryant said, funk this 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.439 a y'all got a change that I need me some 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.480 of them niggas down you're running the rock. So James, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.600 if it was you, you you would have decided to stay 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:59.240 at Jackson Well. Not knowing the circumstances of his his 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.280 situation and just on the outside looking in, I would 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.920 have said, stay and build something. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.360 You know, it's more kids to come after the once 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.560 he just worked with. So you gotta look at longevity 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.160 when you're doing stuff like that. If you don't have 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.360 a hidden agenda, then my purpose is to reach all 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.360 the black kids. I can reach all the kids. I can't. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.520 You know what I'm saying, Because if you look at 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.280 it when he first started with that, you had a 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:36.000 lot of guts that was but wow, and he taught 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.080 those young dudes. He talked. He talked those kids out 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 of the men. He made him grow up. Even with 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.839 the shooting ship and all the ship that was going on, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.559 he schooled those kids he did, being honest, a good 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:55.360 kid I've had the pleasure to do. He has the 0:11:55.480 --> 0:12:01.160 influence too, you know, a tract of a lot of 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.679 you know, like you say, a lot of like you say, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.560 still a lot of four and five star black kids 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.280 who would have necessarily ended up probably at power five 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:17.480 schools maybe to go play for Dion. You know, they 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:24.160 would have, you know, took that chance. But again, Dion 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.800 only coach for Jackson State. Everybody can't go to Jackson State. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.400 Do you think him staying there would have a lot 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:40.920 would have made other Black kids of that magnitude transition 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.520 over to other HBCU schools because of Dion. Every kid 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.560 want the best, right, every kid want to become a 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.680 better player. But if I can't go play for Dion, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.360 why would I pass up going to an Alabama or 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:03.080 a Clemson to go to a s othern or Grambling 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.320 or one of these one of the you know, the HBCUs. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.559 How do you think a kid would do that? Okay, 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.040 Deon termed Jackson stayed around. They hid in the HBCU, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.920 you know, but Dion don't want me at Jackson State 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.000 or their scholarships is full. But I got three four 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.160 scholarships on the table from a USC Alabama, So should 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:33.199 I turn them down and specifically look to go to 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.840 an HBCU. How many kids do you think would actually 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.840 do that? You know what, obviously, d n c DN 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.640 is a special case of coaching. His magnitude NFL Hall 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.640 of Fame or one of the best dB, one of 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.000 the best corners, if not the best ever playing professional football. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:54.320 Right if a kid get the opportunity, hell yeah, they 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.280 go think about it. They really exactly, they go really 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.640 really think about it. But at the same time, Jackson 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.040 State only has so many scholarships available. As I'm saying, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.880 everybody can go play for him. I think the way 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.599 I look at it now is with him going to 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.520 a Colorado, He's going to be able to impact even 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.839 more kids because he's gonna have the resources. Now, he's 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.280 gonna actually have the program behind him. So I'm gonna 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.440 tell you Colorado about to put the bag behind him. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.720 It's about to be craiging in Coloraddo like it was 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:27.520 when Eric de Enemy and it was there, exactly used 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.840 to being significant school where kids would want to go play. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:37.280 I'm just saying, you know, uh, having that influence at 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:43.200 the HBCU level. You know there's only one Dion Sanders, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:48.360 So how much influence would that have made other four 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.680 or five star black athletes want to go to HBCUs. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:59.680 You get me because like again you know it's den. Yeah. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.720 I if Deon give me an offer and I can 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.760 go down to Jackson State and play for Dion, That's 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.480 where I'm going. But if I can't get to Jackson 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.920 State and and am I front upon as a four 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.000 or five star black athlete by not going to an 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.440 h b c U, we you know what I do? 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.040 Notice eight, it's a lot of black kids not noticed. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:27.000 The black kids that are signing up for the HBCUs 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.280 are from families to where they got resources. You know, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.760 they're not necessarily rich people, but they can help their 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.560 kids out. Because the rough part about the HBCUs all 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.440 of them ain bad. Right, They got some of the 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.240 best educational programs around. And I think that's the problem 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.200 with the HBCUs. A lot of those chancellors and chairman 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.000 they are strictly focused on education. They don't give a 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.480 damn about football. They don't give them about basketball. It 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.960 was even um I heard a rumor now this is 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.200 just something I heard. I heard a rumor that Dion 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.160 had some kind of TV deal set up right to 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:00.720 where each school it was gonna be able to get 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.240 a certain amount of money, and I heard the chances 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.320 was like, well man sent that money got to go 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.600 to this and that to the science department of them 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.120 was like, no, if I go make this happen, that 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.760 money needs to all go to football program because we 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.360 brought it in. It needs to go towards building these 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.200 guys dorms. It needs to go towards getting a better 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.360 food because be honest that the food was horrible down 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:23.960 there when he first got you know, it was feeding 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:29.560 kids but only sam becausept of the game. Damn. Versus 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.040 You're going to an Alabama sc and they've got a 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.840 nice hot plate of food for you with steak, broccoli 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.680 and potatoes and stuff breakfast, lunch and dinner and anytime 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.000 you want to eat food and places for you to 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.080 go to kill and you know, you know we've I've 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.720 taken visits with the kid and all that. So it's 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.600 a it's a big it's a big chump you. Like 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.200 I said, Dion has a lot of influence, you know, 0:16:55.600 --> 0:17:01.840 But how how much does that influence travel to kids 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.520 who actually can't play for him? Now do I go, Yeah, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.840 I'm a I'm a I'm a star athlete. I'm being 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.800 looked at. But you know, outside of going to play 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.520 for Dion, do I want to go to play for HBCU. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.520 Like you said, the money is scarce, some of the 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.960 facilities aren't up to par, you know, like, well what 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.200 from what we've heard? You know, I've been to a 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.320 couple of HBCUs in my days, performed or whatever, and 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.000 they always seem cracking to me. You know what I'm saying, schools, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.320 they're not bad schools, and that's what I'm saying. Let 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.600 me bear for Let let me correct something right here 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.119 for all those people out there listening, I am not 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.240 against anyone attending an XBCU. I think you should do 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.360 what's best for you and your family. Again, do what's 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.280 best for you or your family. I wouldn't never try 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.360 to talk about you at the goring to one. I'm 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.359 just seeing in comparison and even of saying, who's a state, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.919 it's difficult. Like San Jose States a Division one program, right, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.360 they got better resources than they would at a Jackson 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.240 State or a Southern And you know one thing I 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.639 didn't like about the h b c U s or 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.720 small schools in general, when they play those big ticket games, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.000 like they go out and play an Alabama or somebody, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.080 and the key is out there getting slaughter, getting beat 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.120 eighted than nothing, just so the schools can get it checked. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.719 That wasn't cool to me because you can bring them 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.880 dudes up there on the bus to drive eighteen nineteen dollars. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:32.679 They go up, they get their ass, then get put 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.280 right back on the plus and get sent back on. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:36.760 It's not a cool experience for the kids. And this 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.440 is what I want to do. See, my thing is this, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.920 if we go hold Dan accountable. H b c US 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.440 have an incredible amount of wealthy alumni. Oprah Winfrey is 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.160 from an HBCU. How come y'all not pressing her about 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.320 giving no money back? How she didn't get pressed the building, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.480 the stadiums. You got t rge G. P Henson, you 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.480 got Tony Braxton, You've got your line to Adams, you 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.359 got Jesse Jackson, You've got Debbie had An Erica I 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:06.080 do Felicia Reside, Samuel Jackson, Spike Lee. Now all of 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.440 those people and there ain't exactly in the big in 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.320 their club and everything, but they got some well people 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.680 on that list. How come your puff, p did he 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.560 come from HBCUs? It's been some there's some famous people 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.640 to come from HBCUs. They're not bad schools, not at all. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.960 In some cases they have better educational programs than the 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:27.800 main schools. Buff a million dollars, didn't he? Yeah he did? 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.440 But you know what though, James yet Puffy gave money. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:35.119 My my thing is this right, I think us as 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.639 a black people we can't help. But look at it 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.160 it it's kind of an emotional thing. I'm not looking 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.520 at it from the emotional standpoint because I would just 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:48.440 love because see, I remember I remember reading stories about 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.000 those schools, how the Alabama's and all of them wouldn't 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.359 even let brothers go there. If they did go that 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.359 they with sicking dogs on them and ship. You know, 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.200 people are still very prejudice down there, don't get it twisted. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.440 There's still a lot of racism that go down there. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.640 But again, Dion can only touch if he's at let's say, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.760 Dean with the State at Jackson State. At the most 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.280 he's gonna be able to touch fifteen to seventeen new 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.840 recruits every year. Right, those guys come in. Everybody not 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.360 going to the NFL first of all, just because you've 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.120 got dean coach. No, don't you just gotta guarantee lock 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.760 to go in NFL. Going to the NFL and actually 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.720 even making the practice roster is like going to go 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.920 win a lottery ticket because there are so many good 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.159 football players. It's a whole lot of them. They only 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.880 go trash so many. They only have so many rooms. 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:38.920 They only bring a ninety in the camp, and they're 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.840 cutting them down to fifty two. You got fifty two 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.040 people on the team, and not the fifty two men, 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.000 only fifty I think fifty one of them dressed or 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.560 something like that might be wrong. So then you've got 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.480 a six team on the practice squard, right, So you 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.600 only got so many jobs out there anyway. Right, the 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.800 whole goal for you is to take you after school 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:02.080 and get education, right, become somebody in life. And that's 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.920 what I tell more kids. We have to start looking 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.639 for opportunities outside of actually playing the game of being 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.080 a coach, because the coach go always outlast the player. 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.880 Those brothers are making incredible money. Now, I was talking 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:16.960 to the defensive back coach sc one day, and he 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:23.359 was telling me, Man, when he left Oregon, he still 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.680 had some money from there, right. I think they still 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.640 owed him like two million dollars. And when he left 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.919 um Nebraska to go to Oregon, Oregon old him three millions. 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.920 Nebraska owed him three million dollars, right, so they was 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.040 paying him in three million dollars. Over the next season 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.399 he went up to Oregon picked up another five million, 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.520 went s s Eaton got him six seven million. That's 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.520 not a bad gig. He's not damaging his nerves, he's 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.640 not damaging his knees, he's not damaging his back, he's 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.320 not getting the head entries. He they're just coaching football. 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.920 So we gotta start looking at those type of opportunities too. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.320 And now, in regardless the dion, the only one that 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.840 knows what his true intentions was him and Jesus Christ. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.040 But I'm cool with what he did because I'm gonna 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.680 tell you, white guys go to these programs and leave everything. Dog. 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:11.840 They're going there for one year, user it's a stepping 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.000 stone and go up. I've even seen coaches go to 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.159 a school be there for two or three months. And 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.159 then get another opportunity like the contract. Theyre buy that 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.680 contract out. They had other school by the contract out 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.080 and they get on. They don't get a funk. Dog, 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.200