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Hello, Welcome to the Gangster 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio and Black 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the I Heart Happen. 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the Gangster Chronicles for my Apple users, hit 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: the Purple Michael your front screen. Subscribe to Against the 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Chronicles and leave a start reading the comment Yeah you 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: know what they do. Thanks to Chronicles Official and I'm 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: with the home boys. Big steal in the house, Big 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Jake Man, you ain't seen eight in a couple of 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: weeks up in his motherfucker Eight come back looking like 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: he just on swoop like you've just been just I'm 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: trying to get on my how my nigga trade d 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: v all on Instay. I'll try your like my nigga 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: trade d You know what I'm saying. You know what 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, hit them, hit them weights and Ship. No, 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: I've just been sucking around, you know, uh with the kids. 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, trying to get him ready. 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: So I figured Ship, if he gonna be working out 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: every day you don't give me, you know, trying to 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: get ready for the next level, then I might as 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: well get myself in there too. Yeah. Sure, looks like 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: you can two piece of nigga. Mm hmm what they do? 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: So are we cracking it off? What we What we 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: got to talk about? Man? You did you know what 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: I want to tell? I just want to start off. 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: And and you know, I know everybody been hearing about 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: my man Beon, right, m hmm. What's your opinion on that? Still? 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: I think Deon deal with the hell he was supposed 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: to do, and we as black people, got a bad 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: always trying to tell somebody what to do. Right. The 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: first thing about it is Dion went in the Jackson 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: State I think it was maybe three years ago, right, 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: turned the whole program around, spent his own money building 43 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: them a new practice field, spent his own money every time. 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: See the problem me was every time Dion went to 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: the administration to ask for some more, some money for something. Hey, 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: the keys need food or you gotta figure that out, Deon, 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the keys need this. You gotta figure out Dan. For 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Christ's sakes, how long is the man supposed to spend 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: his own money. It ain't like Dean ain't playing football 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: in twenty five years though. It's not like he had 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: a pile of money just sitting somewhere. I think Dean 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: did what he was supposed to do, because that's the 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: problem man. As black people, we have a problem of 54 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: speaking out of turn on somebody else's situation all the 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: time and not knowing what the hell we're talking about. 56 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Half the time, it was people actually mad at Dean 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: standards for leaving the school. Dean did what he should 58 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: have did because the problem with them HBCUs Deon can 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: fix it by itself. Even if Dean would have went 60 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: over there and stayed there, all he would have been 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: just had the program where he would have been beating 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the shell of every other team in his whack. Every 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: week that wouldn't have been no fun. Dan did what 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: he's supposed to do. Because I'm gonna tell you what 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the problem is now in college football is we don't 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: have enough coaches that can relate to our kids. And 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: when I talk about our kids, you already got kids 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: coming in with PTSD at high school. You got the company, 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: and they suffered from property. So in some cases they 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: hundreds of miles from home and their mama don't got 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: no money to come there and see him. Right, So 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: you got this white coach, and shame bag. Is there 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: some great white coaches out there? Right? So this ain't 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: about black and white. This is about culture. When you 75 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: got a kid that's coming from the hood, he's gonna 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: come in a certain way. He's gonna be very raw 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: because in a lot of times, a lot of a 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: lot of cases, he hasn't had that parental father figure 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: in the house. You feel what I mean? Everybody is 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be like Corn or Chris. Do you feel 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? That got a daddy at home and 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: tell him what to do. So those kids need a 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: certain other level of attention, and sometimes that comes in 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: the form of a black coach. We got plenty of 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: black assistant coaches broke, but on the B one level, 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't a lot of us. That's why 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: I always route for a brother when he gets them jobs. 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I rooted for the brother Dante when he got the 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: job at s C and the interroom I wrote. I 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: rooted for the brother that not the dame when he 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: got that job. And I'm rooted for den in agenda 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: to where I'm gonna do this and then I can. 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's James, that's a lot of I mean, 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: if I'm m you talked to certain people, you know, uh, students, Uh, 95 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: people who represent hbc U, s um. You know, the 96 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: emotions are kind of mixed. Uh. Some people feel you know, 97 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: maybe he used Jackson State is a stepping stone, uh, 98 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: because he wanted to coach at Florida State and they 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: turned him down. So that's how you know. UM, so 100 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: that can have just been proven a point. But my 101 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: thing is, you know, um, at what level do you 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: feel like you know quote you know your blackness? Is 103 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: that question because you know, any time you working in 104 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: this situation, I mean, if you work, you want to 105 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: be promoted, right, you want to be you know the 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: quest of you as a man or getting to a 107 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: certain statue or status is to become there. You know, 108 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: if you start at the bottom, like they say, you 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: start out at the bottom and you want to reach 110 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: the top. So do you feel that his top plateau 111 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: should have stopped at Jackson State? I think you should 112 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: have just continued there because what you did with those kids, 113 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: the kids love that dude, and he did something like 114 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he really worked with those cats. He won 115 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: football games. But you know to leave, why leave? Well, 116 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: he had to, James, because that's situation. There wouldn't have 117 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: gotten no better. Bro. See, look, let me explain something 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: to you and James, I understand why you feel the 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: way you feel. Right, There's a lot of stuff that 120 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: goes into running the program, right, especially when you start 121 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: talking about the difference between the Jackson State un Let's 122 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: say even UM even in Colorado, Colorado was not a UM. 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: It's a Power five program. But they have they've been 124 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: losing for a long time. Right, Even with that, they 125 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: have certain resources from the stadium to the food. The 126 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: kids heed to travel a lot of times in the swag, 127 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: those guys kicking the buses the games. So just imagine 128 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: you're getting off the bus on a twelve or eighteen 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: hour drive, right then you gotta go play a game. 130 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: You an't got no money for hotels. As soon as 131 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: you go out there and play the game, you're happing 132 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: right back on the bus and you're going back to 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, you're going back home, right So I think 134 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: with dan Man, I don't think he hadn't hit me gender. 135 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: I think he would have stayed there had they done 136 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the right things. But he spent a lot of his 137 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: own money, James. You know, he spent a couple of 138 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: million dollars building their practice facility for them his own money. 139 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Every time he went to the administration to ask for something, 140 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: they would pretty much tell him, you handle it. After 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: a while, you gotta get tired. And plus, my thing 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: is this, you gotta think about eight Dean played football 143 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: a long time ago. He just sitting on a billion 144 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: dollars like that. I'm pretty sure his paper is straight. 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: But how long? And what's wrong with him? Progression? Because 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: he is my thing. White folks have the privilege of 147 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: going somewhere stand lying to a bunch of kids and 148 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: getting the funk on. They do it to nobody question them, 149 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: But we do it in progress. Everybody mad off us 150 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and we gotta take the motion out of it. Man, 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: And he applaud him for the time they did have them, 152 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: because he did some great things for that program. He 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: brought a lot of light to it. And he taking 154 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: those kids with him because they just made a new 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: rule that a kid can transfer one time without a question. 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: He taking all those guys that came in with him, 157 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: So he ain't been disloyal to nobody. Unlike some of 158 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: these other coaches. They will go their recruit keids lied 159 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: to him, get their bonus and get on that. After 160 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: my son when he first went to college, man a 161 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: coach lied to him all the way up there. As 162 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: soon as my son enrote, the dude was out of there. Damn. 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: So it's a dirty game, man, And I'm not mad 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: at them for leaving Man not at least big can. 165 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: But can progression be I mean, like I said, yeah, 166 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: everything is to reach a certain point. Right. You're high 167 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: school football coach, you wanna maybe coach college one day? Right? 168 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: You're a college coach, you want to coach NFL one day? Right? Yes, sir, 169 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: is your loyalty and question because of your progression in 170 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: this and in this. In this case, probably yes, yes, 171 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: even though I don't. I don't agree with it, but 172 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: I feel because the average person thinks like James, you've 173 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: gotta understand. The average person at home don't know the 174 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: inner workings of football program. Hell, I don't know everything 175 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: that go on behind the scenes because I'm not privy 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: to it. Right, But on one case, I can see 177 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: where the brothers may be. Man Like man, Diann was 178 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: our savior. He was supposed to do this. He was 179 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: supposed to make the hbcun because at the time, I'm 180 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It was pretty exciting because I had 181 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: the thought of my head, like man gets amazing that 182 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: for all the five stars start going to xbc US 183 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: because he Back in the day, a lot of those schools, 184 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: like the Alabama's, Florida's UM, a number of schools didn't 185 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: even let black kids go to their school. This is 186 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,239 Speaker 1: just in the sixties on up to the early seventies. 187 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: They didn't allow black kids to go there. And SC 188 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: was actually one of the only programs back in the 189 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: all black keys to play. That's what made Alabama changed 190 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing around. Alabama had all these white kids 191 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: that have been winning games. USC went down there and 192 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: hooked their years. They couldn't stop them brothers. Was Compton 193 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: running the brothers long beach, running the rock on them. 194 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: It was too much that Bear Bryant said, funk this 195 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: a y'all got a change that I need me some 196 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: of them niggas down you're running the rock. So James, 197 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: if it was you, you you would have decided to stay 198 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: at Jackson Well. Not knowing the circumstances of his his 199 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: situation and just on the outside looking in, I would 200 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: have said, stay and build something. You know what I'm saying. 201 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's more kids to come after the once 202 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: he just worked with. So you gotta look at longevity 203 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: when you're doing stuff like that. If you don't have 204 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: a hidden agenda, then my purpose is to reach all 205 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the black kids. I can reach all the kids. I can't. 206 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because if you look at 207 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: it when he first started with that, you had a 208 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of guts that was but wow, and he taught 209 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: those young dudes. He talked. He talked those kids out 210 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: of the men. He made him grow up. Even with 211 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: the shooting ship and all the ship that was going on, 212 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: he schooled those kids he did, being honest, a good 213 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: kid I've had the pleasure to do. He has the 214 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: influence too, you know, a tract of a lot of 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, like you say, a lot of like you say, 216 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: still a lot of four and five star black kids 217 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: who would have necessarily ended up probably at power five 218 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: schools maybe to go play for Dion. You know, they 219 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: would have, you know, took that chance. But again, Dion 220 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: only coach for Jackson State. Everybody can't go to Jackson State. 221 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: Do you think him staying there would have a lot 222 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: would have made other Black kids of that magnitude transition 223 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: over to other HBCU schools because of Dion. Every kid 224 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: want the best, right, every kid want to become a 225 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: better player. But if I can't go play for Dion, 226 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: why would I pass up going to an Alabama or 227 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: a Clemson to go to a s othern or Grambling 228 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: or one of these one of the you know, the HBCUs. 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: How do you think a kid would do that? Okay, 230 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: Deon termed Jackson stayed around. They hid in the HBCU, 231 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, but Dion don't want me at Jackson State 232 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: or their scholarships is full. But I got three four 233 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: scholarships on the table from a USC Alabama, So should 234 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: I turn them down and specifically look to go to 235 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: an HBCU. How many kids do you think would actually 236 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: do that? You know what, obviously, d n c DN 237 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: is a special case of coaching. His magnitude NFL Hall 238 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: of Fame or one of the best dB, one of 239 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: the best corners, if not the best ever playing professional football. 240 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: Right if a kid get the opportunity, hell yeah, they 241 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: go think about it. They really exactly, they go really 242 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: really think about it. But at the same time, Jackson 243 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: State only has so many scholarships available. As I'm saying, 244 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: everybody can go play for him. I think the way 245 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 1: I look at it now is with him going to 246 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: a Colorado, He's going to be able to impact even 247 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: more kids because he's gonna have the resources. Now, he's 248 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: gonna actually have the program behind him. So I'm gonna 249 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: tell you Colorado about to put the bag behind him. 250 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: It's about to be craiging in Coloraddo like it was 251 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: when Eric de Enemy and it was there, exactly used 252 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: to being significant school where kids would want to go play. 253 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, uh, having that influence at 254 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: the HBCU level. You know there's only one Dion Sanders, 255 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: So how much influence would that have made other four 256 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: or five star black athletes want to go to HBCUs. 257 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: You get me because like again you know it's den. Yeah. 258 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I if Deon give me an offer and I can 259 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: go down to Jackson State and play for Dion, That's 260 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: where I'm going. But if I can't get to Jackson 261 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: State and and am I front upon as a four 262 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: or five star black athlete by not going to an 263 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: h b c U, we you know what I do? 264 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Notice eight, it's a lot of black kids not noticed. 265 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: The black kids that are signing up for the HBCUs 266 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: are from families to where they got resources. You know, 267 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily rich people, but they can help their 268 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: kids out. Because the rough part about the HBCUs all 269 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: of them ain bad. Right, They got some of the 270 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: best educational programs around. And I think that's the problem 271 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: with the HBCUs. A lot of those chancellors and chairman 272 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: they are strictly focused on education. They don't give a 273 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: damn about football. They don't give them about basketball. It 274 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: was even um I heard a rumor now this is 275 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: just something I heard. I heard a rumor that Dion 276 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: had some kind of TV deal set up right to 277 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: where each school it was gonna be able to get 278 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: a certain amount of money, and I heard the chances 279 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: was like, well man sent that money got to go 280 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: to this and that to the science department of them 281 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: was like, no, if I go make this happen, that 282 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: money needs to all go to football program because we 283 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: brought it in. It needs to go towards building these 284 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: guys dorms. It needs to go towards getting a better 285 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: food because be honest that the food was horrible down 286 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: there when he first got you know, it was feeding 287 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: kids but only sam becausept of the game. Damn. Versus 288 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: You're going to an Alabama sc and they've got a 289 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: nice hot plate of food for you with steak, broccoli 290 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: and potatoes and stuff breakfast, lunch and dinner and anytime 291 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: you want to eat food and places for you to 292 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: go to kill and you know, you know we've I've 293 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: taken visits with the kid and all that. So it's 294 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: a it's a big it's a big chump you. Like 295 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: I said, Dion has a lot of influence, you know, 296 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: But how how much does that influence travel to kids 297 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: who actually can't play for him? Now do I go, Yeah, 298 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a I'm a star athlete. I'm being 299 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: looked at. But you know, outside of going to play 300 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: for Dion, do I want to go to play for HBCU. 301 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, the money is scarce, some of the 302 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: facilities aren't up to par, you know, like, well what 303 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: from what we've heard? You know, I've been to a 304 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: couple of HBCUs in my days, performed or whatever, and 305 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: they always seem cracking to me. You know what I'm saying, schools, 306 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: they're not bad schools, and that's what I'm saying. Let 307 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: me bear for Let let me correct something right here 308 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: for all those people out there listening, I am not 309 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: against anyone attending an XBCU. I think you should do 310 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: what's best for you and your family. Again, do what's 311 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: best for you or your family. I wouldn't never try 312 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: to talk about you at the goring to one. I'm 313 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: just seeing in comparison and even of saying, who's a state, 314 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: it's difficult. Like San Jose States a Division one program, right, 315 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: they got better resources than they would at a Jackson 316 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: State or a Southern And you know one thing I 317 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: didn't like about the h b c U s or 318 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: small schools in general, when they play those big ticket games, 319 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: like they go out and play an Alabama or somebody, 320 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: and the key is out there getting slaughter, getting beat 321 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: eighted than nothing, just so the schools can get it checked. 322 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: That wasn't cool to me because you can bring them 323 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: dudes up there on the bus to drive eighteen nineteen dollars. 324 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: They go up, they get their ass, then get put 325 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: right back on the plus and get sent back on. 326 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: It's not a cool experience for the kids. And this 327 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: is what I want to do. See, my thing is this, 328 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: if we go hold Dan accountable. H b c US 329 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: have an incredible amount of wealthy alumni. Oprah Winfrey is 330 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: from an HBCU. How come y'all not pressing her about 331 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: giving no money back? How she didn't get pressed the building, 332 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the stadiums. You got t rge G. P Henson, you 333 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: got Tony Braxton, You've got your line to Adams, you 334 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: got Jesse Jackson, You've got Debbie had An Erica I 335 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: do Felicia Reside, Samuel Jackson, Spike Lee. Now all of 336 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: those people and there ain't exactly in the big in 337 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: their club and everything, but they got some well people 338 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: on that list. How come your puff, p did he 339 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: come from HBCUs? It's been some there's some famous people 340 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: to come from HBCUs. They're not bad schools, not at all. 341 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: In some cases they have better educational programs than the 342 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: main schools. Buff a million dollars, didn't he? Yeah he did? 343 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: But you know what though, James yet Puffy gave money. 344 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: My my thing is this right, I think us as 345 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: a black people we can't help. But look at it 346 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: it it's kind of an emotional thing. I'm not looking 347 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: at it from the emotional standpoint because I would just 348 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: love because see, I remember I remember reading stories about 349 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: those schools, how the Alabama's and all of them wouldn't 350 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: even let brothers go there. If they did go that 351 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: they with sicking dogs on them and ship. You know, 352 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: people are still very prejudice down there, don't get it twisted. 353 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of racism that go down there. 354 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: But again, Dion can only touch if he's at let's say, 355 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Dean with the State at Jackson State. At the most 356 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to touch fifteen to seventeen new 357 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: recruits every year. Right, those guys come in. Everybody not 358 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: going to the NFL first of all, just because you've 359 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: got dean coach. No, don't you just gotta guarantee lock 360 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: to go in NFL. Going to the NFL and actually 361 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: even making the practice roster is like going to go 362 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: win a lottery ticket because there are so many good 363 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: football players. It's a whole lot of them. They only 364 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: go trash so many. They only have so many rooms. 365 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: They only bring a ninety in the camp, and they're 366 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: cutting them down to fifty two. You got fifty two 367 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: people on the team, and not the fifty two men, 368 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: only fifty I think fifty one of them dressed or 369 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: something like that might be wrong. So then you've got 370 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: a six team on the practice squard, right, So you 371 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: only got so many jobs out there anyway. Right, the 372 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: whole goal for you is to take you after school 373 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: and get education, right, become somebody in life. And that's 374 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: what I tell more kids. We have to start looking 375 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: for opportunities outside of actually playing the game of being 376 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: a coach, because the coach go always outlast the player. 377 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: Those brothers are making incredible money. Now, I was talking 378 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: to the defensive back coach sc one day, and he 379 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: was telling me, Man, when he left Oregon, he still 380 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: had some money from there, right. I think they still 381 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: owed him like two million dollars. And when he left 382 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: um Nebraska to go to Oregon, Oregon old him three millions. 383 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Nebraska owed him three million dollars, right, so they was 384 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: paying him in three million dollars. Over the next season 385 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: he went up to Oregon picked up another five million, 386 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: went s s Eaton got him six seven million. That's 387 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: not a bad gig. He's not damaging his nerves, he's 388 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: not damaging his knees, he's not damaging his back, he's 389 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: not getting the head entries. He they're just coaching football. 390 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: So we gotta start looking at those type of opportunities too. 391 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: And now, in regardless the dion, the only one that 392 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: knows what his true intentions was him and Jesus Christ. 393 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: But I'm cool with what he did because I'm gonna 394 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: tell you, white guys go to these programs and leave everything. Dog. 395 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: They're going there for one year, user it's a stepping 396 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: stone and go up. I've even seen coaches go to 397 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: a school be there for two or three months. And 398 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: then get another opportunity like the contract. Theyre buy that 399 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: contract out. They had other school by the contract out 400 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: and they get on. They don't get a funk. Dog, 401 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real with you. Beyond cares more about 402 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: these coaches than the average coach. The average coaching Division 403 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: one football don't give a funk about these kids. They 404 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: just use them. You can just tell, man, from when 405 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: they come in and you think about the average coach. 406 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: These coaches they come and sit in your living room 407 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: and tell you, oh, man, your counts could be CREATI 408 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna treat him like he's my own. You're going 409 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: through it right now, and I'm gonna treat him like 410 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: he's my own. Guess what they're doing. As soon as 411 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: they leave your house, they're gonna go tell the dude 412 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: next door the same ship. They're going to kid down 413 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: the street. So my advice to anybody out there, pick 414 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: the school that you want to go to, and pick 415 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: that school that you would be happy. Yet irregard with 416 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: the coach yet, because that coach may leave one day. 417 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: Because you gotta remember, we're dealing with people and the 418 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: loyalty to these the only keys to these coaches are 419 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: loyal to is the ones living in your house with him. 420 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at that. White folks do it 421 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: all the time. They're allowed to leave, they allowed to go, 422 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: and don't nobody said, damn thing. Well, it's a business 423 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: as part of the game. But the moment the brother 424 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: want to advance and go through his thing, all that 425 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: motherfucker sellout. He this and that. You know what. I 426 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: was excited when Dianne went to the Jackson State, but 427 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: I knew what I said. Man, it's gonna take more 428 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: than just him. We're gonna need like a whole influx 429 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: of new people come in. Everybody gotta want to come in, 430 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: you feel saying. And then you got a Shannon Sharp 431 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: he said, it's straight up, he said, I went to 432 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: an x b U. That's because I was a prop 433 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: forty eight nine. You have no choice. If I had 434 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: had the choice chance to go to Alabama, Florida stinks. 435 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: You've damn right, I would have been there, right. Why not? 436 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 1: You think about the James. These kids want the bestness apparents. 437 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: You want the best for your kids. Think about Line 438 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: on Line will look kid. Now, Let's say Line started 439 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: playing football and become the number one dude in the country, 440 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: and you're going on visits with him. You're going to 441 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Alabama looking at their stadium, You're like, damn, they're feeding 442 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: you steak out, man, that I got this the recruiters 443 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: tips light you want to eat steak for a whole year, man, 444 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: I ate so many steaks and and just step three 445 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: or four times. Their people kissing your ass and doing 446 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: all this stuff. If you're a kid, that could be 447 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: very enticing. You gotta think about it. These dudes team 448 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: mateen years old. That's very enticing. And then Dion was 449 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: able to do the impossible by going to go U 450 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: get these elite kids. He's those some kids from Alabama. 451 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: Dion got to the point of where Nick Salem was hating, 452 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: No Nick Saban get any kid he wanted from University Alabama. 453 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: And add it was how the Dion mentioned and said, 454 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: I think they down that sheet and playing and paying kids. 455 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: It's like that was some old hater ass ship. I 456 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: didn't respect. I don't respect the old way for that. 457 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: But Dion definitely made a splash down there. And the 458 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: only thing I can say for Jackson State is you 459 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: already have the momentum, they need to focus on trying 460 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: to hire them another great coach, because they gotta think 461 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: all of them kids can't leave and go with d M, 462 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: but a lot of meals leaving to go with him. 463 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: He said that when he came in, he said, listen, 464 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm bringing my own luggies for me and my lucky 465 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: just Louis Vatton. He's gonna go. He's gonna make up 466 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: splash in the Pac twelve. And I'm gonna tell you 467 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: why I do think it's good on one on one 468 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: talking James, it's very hard for African Americans to kick 469 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: jobs these universities. The more success we have, the more 470 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: people see its successful, the more they go hire. We 471 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: need more brothers working at these Division one universities. Hell, 472 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: ain'ty percent of the kids on the team black? Why 473 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: not have more black coaches? Right right? I ain't really 474 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: in the football like that, but you know, I've been 475 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: watching him and I look at him and shape man, 476 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: that dude doing a good thing. And like you said, 477 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: he spent a lot of his money on it. But 478 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: but if my kid was there, I have to make 479 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: that decision from my kid. Both of y'all got shows 480 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: that played football, so y'all know better than me. You 481 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So well, you would always have 482 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: us to go back and talk to James, you like 483 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: I know him, this what's going on. I'll be able 484 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: to get you a fight. And a lot of the James, 485 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: it's really just common sense. Like I talked to eight 486 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: about nephew, I talked to a lot of the homies 487 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: about their kids and not tell them at the end 488 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: of the day, you want to go somewhere because they 489 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: ain't nothing guaranteed that coach gonna be there. That's one 490 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: thing these kids gotta know. You go to a university, 491 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: it ain't guaranteed that the man that brings you wind't 492 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: gonna stay there. I told my son that when he 493 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: was going. I said, man, I know, these dudes seem 494 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: cool and they're not bad people. They're just doing what 495 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: that's for their family. You think about it, this is 496 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: the average coach's career. The average coach jumps around just 497 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: like that. That's what they do. Your figure dude gets 498 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: out of college, he may play football. That's he goes 499 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: to the league and played for two years. Right, he 500 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: gets done with that, got his degree and stuff. He 501 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: gets a coaching job. He comes in as a grand assistant, right, 502 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: which is like a pretty much the lowest one on 503 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: the team, right, or he either goes into being a 504 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: recruiting coordinator. He comes into being and becomes a recruiting coordinator, 505 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: or he becomes a person in scouting, right, you know, 506 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: recruiting to where he's messing with the kids and stuff 507 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: like that, bringing me in on business, you know, calling 508 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: the kids up and everything. Now, if you come in 509 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: as a chie you're not making that much money. But 510 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: if you're coming in as a like a recruiting coordinator, 511 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: I think they start off a hundred hundred fifty thousand 512 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: a year, which is not bad for a young man. 513 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: That's not bad at all. He gets to travel, he 514 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: gets to you don't do what he do and what 515 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: happens he is somebody usually calls that guy that's a 516 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: recruiting coordinate, the grand assistant for a job. He sees 517 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: an oldenness somewhere. The next year he gone. He may 518 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: go somewhere. He may be in North Dakota for a 519 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: year being a defensive back coach. But what he's doing 520 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: his building his resume. Right, he goes north to COVID. 521 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: It becomes a defensive back coach for one or two years. 522 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: Then he finally may get his opportunity at a big university. 523 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: They may come call and he may have success at 524 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: that small school, but then he decides, Um, he may 525 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: get a University of Acre, which Division one school, and 526 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: say hey, we got a job for you. Now he's 527 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: going from making a hundred to four hundred five hundreds 528 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: in a year. Right, he may do that for three years. 529 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: He may be there for five years. But then when 530 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: the Alabama's the Prascas and all that coming, especially if 531 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: he gets a defensive coordinator job and he's one of 532 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: few games. Let's say he goes to University of Acre 533 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: and he knocks off on the Ohio State one year 534 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: or knocks off Michigan State. He could be the hottest 535 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: dude in the country. Everybody go be like everybody wants 536 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the young coach. That's what makes Lincoln Riley and all 537 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: these other dudes so attracted people. These guys are young. 538 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley I think when I first met him, I 539 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: think he was thirty four, thirty five years old or something. 540 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: I went out to the business. Chris wanted to go 541 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: usit Oklahoma he was young, because that's attracted to the kids. 542 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: He's wearing the same shoes they do. He talked the 543 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: same thing in some case, listening to the same music. 544 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: So he's able to communicate with those kids versus old 545 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: ass man. It's out there yelling and bargain at him, right, 546 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: and so it gets going in one thing about it, 547 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: like you got coaches out there like Nick Saban, who 548 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: are very very good football coaches, very good football case. 549 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: I think Nick Saban on Ben He's been in the 550 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: National Championship Game eight how many times in the last 551 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: decade maybe seven and six a lot. He's always there. 552 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: He consistently wins. Right, But Dion was getting he Deon 553 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: struck a nerve with him me and this is a 554 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: dude that shouldn't even be thinking about den Nick Saban said, 555 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Dion down that cheating because he has stole the player 556 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: from He stole the player from Nick Saban. Well, he 557 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: didn't steal a player, he convinced the player to come 558 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: to his program. I think Dean is gonna go to 559 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Colorado and be very successful, and I think is gonna 560 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: be good for everybody at the end of the day. 561 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: But Dionne couldn't single Hi Himley saying they say the swaging, 562 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: no way, I think he was down there. I'm not 563 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna say he was wasting his time, but if he 564 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna go down there, revolution the way 565 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: stuff was changed. Man, there's too much money involved. Either 566 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: needed a whole bunch of paper. He would have literally 567 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: needed somebody like Oprah Winfrey to come in and say, listen, 568 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a forty million dollar donation to the 569 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: SWAG and that wouldn't even been enough money would have 570 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: been I think I think people just because of you know, 571 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, people saying he brought in thirty million dollars 572 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: and he brought in the you know, the big businesses 573 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: and people who wouldn't have normally wanted to funk around 574 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: with you know, Jackson State or HBCU whatever. You know, 575 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: he got people to start. You know, I want the 576 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: want the funk around with it. So I guess people 577 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: taking personal. You know that you know him as a 578 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: black man first, you know, knowing the influence he could 579 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: have on you know, these black kids. Um could could 580 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: his influence start a fluctuation of of of black NFL 581 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: x NFL players or coaches or whatever to you know, 582 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: seek out hvc US for coaching jobs or offensive coordinator jobs. 583 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: And you know who knows you do know what the 584 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: thing was? And that was one of the things. D 585 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: brought him a nice staff down there. But from what 586 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: I heard, guess it was being guess who got the 587 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: money together? The thing the staff he did. He was 588 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: telling the man, I need to pay my gosh, you know, 589 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: these guys are here working sixty seventy hours a week. 590 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: So let me ask you another question, knowing what. Basically, 591 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: when he took the position, he already he knew what 592 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: he was up against, right, I mean it's Jackson State, 593 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, um what you know what was they you know, 594 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: what was their record before Dion showed up. They weren't 595 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: winning too many games. They were very dismal program. So 596 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: the excitement, I guess, and the hope for what uh 597 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: h uh, you know, Jackson State or HBCU or alumni 598 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, past students whatever, I guess, the hope of 599 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: what they felt that Dion could have influenced to help 600 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: the HBCUs or the programs is why a lot of 601 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: people felt like, you know, uh, he used us or 602 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, why not stay and keep that influence here 603 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: and help out. You know, But like I say, once again, 604 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: would it be beneficial? You know what you James, what 605 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: you turned down five million dollars when you're getting to 606 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: fifty three hundred a year as opposed to getting five million. 607 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, all depend It depends on the kids. Now, 608 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: you gotta look at what dem went through with that program, 609 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: and now that he had a successful program, now they 610 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: want him to stay and they think he should have stayed. 611 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: But he said, I beg do different. I'm gonna going 612 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: and do bigger and better things, and I'm gonna take 613 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: my kids and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going. I'm 614 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna do something else, but somewhere else. I mean, I 615 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: don't think you could be mad at him. It's just 616 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: a decision that he made. So why is everybody piste off? 617 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Why is it all of a sudden now, oh prime time? 618 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: He arrogant? He is he that you don't hear that 619 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: about everybody else? Man? Because some people feel like he 620 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: he used us as a stepping stone. I mean, but again, 621 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: and is that is it? Like my quest is to 622 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: excel right, and uh that that's my if I'm in 623 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: the world, whatever I do, whether whether if if I'm wrapping, 624 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: My quest is to say a lead right right if 625 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: if if I'm working that a company and I'm starting 626 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: at the bottom, I one day want to become the 627 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: fucking prisoner. I will hold this motherfucker right, That's my goal. 628 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: Nobody thinks small. Right if you that ambitious cat, you 629 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: get me like we we the podcast, whatever we do. 630 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: We wanted to go from here to here. So you 631 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: want to you are? Are you looked upon? And then 632 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 1: why are you frowned upon? Or or you just used 633 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: me as a step in stop? But this is what 634 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: I think eight and I'm being serious about it. Let's say, hypothetically, 635 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: let's say he did have a plan all along. Right, 636 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: Let's say he did have a plan all along, because 637 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for a minute. Dion has 638 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: coached his kids at every level, which is rare. Right, 639 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: He coached his kids in Pop Warner. It's time for 640 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: him to go to high school. That dude went abroad 641 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: a high school dude. He made his own high school 642 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: and put some studs around his kids made his high school. 643 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: When now he was done, his kids out of high school. 644 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: He would have got him a job at Jackson State. 645 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Now he's moved him up. I'm pretty sure in the 646 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: back of his head he said, you know what, his 647 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: son quarterback is a bad motherfucker. He threw for like 648 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: four thousand yards, ran for like another thousand something like that. 649 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I believe could be wrong, but but he was a 650 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: good quarterback. He knows that kid is never gonna have 651 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: a chance in hell to winning the high sman out 652 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: of his wack, right. The level of competition just ain't 653 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: the saying. He's gonna had to be a somewhere at 654 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: minimum like a Colorado. You feel what I'm saying exactly. 655 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: Let's say he did have in his mind that I'm 656 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: using these places to step the stones. Everywhere he left 657 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: was better. He left a better condition than it was 658 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: when he came. It's almost like somebody coming up here 659 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: and burrowed my tie hole. They brought my tie ho 660 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: they bring it back and say, oh man, I wrecked 661 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: your tie hole. But guess what, and he pull up 662 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: in here in a new Bentley truck or something like that. 663 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad. He left. Everywhere he was 664 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: had a better condition, Like I think he genuinely cared 665 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: about the places he was at, but he might have 666 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: had in his mind the whole time, like I'm gonna 667 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: follow my kids up with this whole thing, and my 668 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: thing is this. I can't sit up here in line 669 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: and say I wouldn't do the same damn thing if 670 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: I could, if you had the power, if me and 671 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: you had the power, dog to say, we go coach 672 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: our key to every level. Let's say Karin go to 673 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: school and they say, hey, we think you a hell 674 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: of a coach. They offer you a coach and uh, 675 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: and you can mess around in there. Let's say even 676 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: if you're not coaching your kids, you're just getting to 677 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: be around him everything. Right now, Let's say he'd mess 678 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: around to go to the NFL and they said, you 679 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: know what, a we really like you as a coach. 680 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring you in a scout now, you with 681 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: your kids. If you could do that, when you do it, 682 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: you goddamn right. That's what I'm saying. We expect people 683 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: to hold up to expectations. We won't do our damn selves. 684 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: We expect stuff by the people, we won't do ourselves. 685 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: I'll be sitting up there lying like a motherfucker if 686 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: somebody offered me an NFL job and I knew I 687 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: could help my son out, not just my son, possibly 688 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: old son, possibly Lionel down the line here. Yeah, I'm 689 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna go take you to put me in a position apart. 690 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: I can put kids home, right, I can put kids 691 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: on and change their life and give them an opportunity. 692 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: So I think we get mad sometimes that people for 693 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: doing the same ship we would do. And it's not 694 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: like let's eat now, I'm I'm even playing Devil's advocate. 695 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: Let's say he had in his mind planning it, he 696 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: went down and spent money, got don it for the program. Now, 697 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what to be real fun up 698 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: if all them people that was looking out for him 699 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: and don't neate money to the program just because Dean 700 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: gonna stop doing it. No, you have to be genuine 701 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: with two attentions. If you go get that kids some 702 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: money and do for him, keep on doing for him, 703 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: regardless of whether it's Dean coaching there or motherfucking m 704 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: c A coaching here, do the same ship. I mean, yeah, 705 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you know, I mean, you know the 706 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: attitude to people, so you know, it's just unfortunate that 707 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: you know, you can try to put yourself in a 708 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: better position. But you know some people look at it 709 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: as you know, um, when it comes to our people, 710 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: you get me. We're very opinionated about certain situations. And 711 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, half of us gonna be like, hey, good decision, man, 712 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 1: step up, you know, next level, and the other half 713 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: of us gonna be like, that's some fucked up ship. 714 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: You know. So sports always bringing out the emotions and people. 715 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. And when when Lebron left Cleveland, 716 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna die hard Cleveland Cavaliers fan from 717 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: the Bron from Cleveland Browns, like everything Cleveland. That's my seat. 718 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: That's where I'm from. When Lebron left Cleveland, after us 719 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: having that shitty team from decades, me watching them motherfucker's 720 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: lose game after game. The last time, the last time 721 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland was good was when they had um, when they 722 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: had the one team, not the Calves good. Remember back 723 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: in the eighties when the Calves had a decent basketball team, right, 724 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: so just imagine meat, we had a sorry yes football 725 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: team the whole time growing up. The thing we finally 726 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: winning out and it's with a niggad is from the land. 727 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: That's with a nigga is from Ohio. When he left, Dog, 728 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I was pitched off the motherfucker. 729 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: I didn't go by burn his jerseys and ship, but 730 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: I had to sit back as a chrons man and understand, man, 731 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: his motherfucker making more money than me. I'm sitting up 732 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: there worried about what the funk he got going on. 733 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: He needs to go do what the hell is best 734 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: for him and his family, right because he will tell 735 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: you this. He knew Lebrown left he still do a 736 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: game and ship for a while. Dolf North, he said, well, 737 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: this dude don't open up school, he don't feed people, 738 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: he don't build houses for people. He still goes back 739 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: and does what he needs to do for his community. 740 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, and is the level of 741 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: the level which people you know and uh opinion makes 742 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: ship is you know it goes to a real high level. 743 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: Because it's like you said, why do I shaid, why 744 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: should I give a fuck? If that? You know, he 745 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: making a decision, making a decision that he feels is 746 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna better him as a person, better the situation, better 747 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: for his family. And that don't mean I ain't gonna 748 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: still influence uh my people, you get me. I'm still 749 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: gonna encourage black youngsters to, you know, do what they 750 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: can do and go to school, get your education, whether 751 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: you come in here to Colorado or you're going to 752 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: Jackson State or any other motherfucking place. You feel me. 753 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: So it's it's unfortunate that the motherfucker gotta feel like 754 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, you used me, you know what I'm saying, 755 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: And now you've been to take off and go to 756 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: the greener pastures. And who's to say it's gonna be greener. 757 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: You didn't gotta make some of that money, but he 758 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: just over there paper still that money back. Ship we've 759 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: seen you know, Dogs and James. We all around the 760 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: same dazed group. When you get older, you stopped thinking 761 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: with less of motion. It's more about ship for what 762 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: it is, you know what I mean. It's like he 763 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: ain't nonna need to get said. Man, that motherfucker he 764 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: when he was a motherfucker Jackson. They have one way 765 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: to me. I don't care what they're gonna do, to 766 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: be honest with you, because the thing he was, man, 767 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: he left that motherfucking good shape. They got a new 768 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: practice field out of him. They got all kind of 769 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: read it, all got responsor stuff. He going on about 770 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: his business. He's gonna go coach his kids. Now, I'm 771 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: gonna tell you if I'm gonna laugh like a motherfucker, 772 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: wont of them to get prefer if he wants to 773 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: on the nfiling coach, I'm gonna laugh like a motherfucker. 774 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: Let me tell this curve ball right, because it's our songs, 775 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: some mothers ship. But Dion didn't he didn't, you know, 776 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: he didn't leave like you said. He didn't leave the 777 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: school and shambles. Uh, he didn't, you know, leave a 778 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: bad stain. You know, we gotta winning record, we're going 779 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: to the bowl game and all of that ship. But 780 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: and everybody really piste off and the ship. But we 781 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: we still ain't We still ain't talked to about Uh. 782 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: We still ain't focused on Brent far and then stealing 783 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,479 Speaker 1: money from the people of Mississippi, and that's swelling money 784 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: out and and fucking over the welfare fund to try 785 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: to get a fucking volleyball court built. But we focused 786 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: on beyond leaving because he wants to go get a 787 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: better job. It's crazy how motherfucker's picking shoes what they 788 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: want to focus on. Uh in in in certain situations, 789 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: you get me right, you know what broke and it's 790 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: always gonna be like that. Just like I said, it's coaches. 791 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: They don't don't way worse than beyond. I've seen coaches 792 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: bring a hole frock the lower the keys in and 793 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: leave the next motherfucking day because you know, some of 794 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: those guys get bonuses for signing certain kids. Right, I've 795 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: seen them. Dudes come in and get their bonuses and 796 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: get the funk on. Don't nobody say nothing about it. 797 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: But the kid is sucked over because he may be 798 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: at a school he never He may be a school 799 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: just because of that coach, just because he liked them. 800 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: That's why I tell these young men we have to 801 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: start learning to see in some instances, ain't nothing wrong 802 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: with being selfish. You have to do what's in the 803 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: best for you because everybody else is doing what's best 804 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: for them. Now, that don't mean you go fund people 805 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: over or you know, you always want to carry yourself 806 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: A classic conviction, right, But me knowing that as a 807 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: little kid, if I was a kid going to a school, 808 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: now I was, for one, pick a school that I 809 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: knew I was gonna be cool that regardless of whether 810 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: this motherfucker there or not, I wouldn't leave and go 811 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: too far away unless it was somewhere that I really 812 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: like want to be at. Like there's some kids dog 813 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: that they're bringing to go to university, and um, it 814 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: may be a cat string to go to a house 815 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: state Alabama or se. They don't get, but then who 816 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: they head coach us if they bring to be there, 817 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: so they're gonna be straight whatever. Right, you have to 818 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: go into situations with the mentality that I am going 819 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: to make the most of my opportunity, because really that 820 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: coach didn't do nothing wrong with you. Here you opportunity 821 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: to change your life because you can become whoever you 822 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: want to become in college, do education right, he gave 823 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: you opportunity to get He didn't take the scholarship when 824 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: he left. He gave you a scholarship. So he's telling 825 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: you for five years you are going to be able 826 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: to come here to get you a masters to the 827 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: baxtor's degree possibly a master's may have a possibility of 828 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: going to the NFL. Hell, if the NFL don't work out, 829 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: you have a degree, you have a very good life 830 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: right alone. As you got that, bro, that's all you 831 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: can ask for this. I've never left. I've never left 832 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: no situation my son was in feeling like somebody owed 833 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: him something because I feel like everything is on him. 834 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you at the end of the day, 835 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: you still have to go to class and perform. You 836 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: still have to perform on a football field. So it's 837 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: all with him. Anyway that coach is there, don't guarantee 838 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: him none of that because you still gotta go play. 839 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: It's just like Dean's kids, Deon being the dad. You 840 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: don't necessarily mean they're gonna get drafted in the first 841 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: round either. You know God, you know God will and 842 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: everything work. I'll find from But ain't no guarantees and 843 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. People, It hurt, stuff happens, you feel what 844 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like, at the end of the day, man, 845 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: we all we come in this world by ourselves, and 846 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna leave his motherfucker by ourselfs So we gotta 847 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: stop being so dependent on the next man, whether they black, white, brown, red, 848 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: or whatever. They need to do their thing. You know, 849 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: I see all these people writing articles and I say, man, wow, 850 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: coaches lead programs every day. I've never seen nothing get 851 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: talked about it wrote about like this. Man, there's a 852 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: lot of piste off people. Man, there are a lot 853 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: of pisched off people right now. Yeah, it is. And 854 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: I really think eight at the end of the day, Bro, 855 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: this is what I believe. I think the man. I 856 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: don't think he's a messed up dude. I've actually talked 857 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: to Diane before. Dean is one of the coolest people 858 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't ever talked to. He's a real person. He 859 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: tell you how he else. And I'm gonna tell you what. 860 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: I didn't like all of these people talking ship behind him. 861 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: When Dean was down there, he was kind of like 862 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: the going to the conference. I saw the most unprofessional ship. Ef. 863 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: You had another black man to play the NFL that 864 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: coached one other teams. Dion went out there whooped his ass. Right. 865 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: He didn't want to shake the man's hand, first of all, 866 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: but we're playing sports, man. Sports always has to be 867 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: about carry. Not to sound like the old fogy, but 868 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: it's certain stuff you don't do in the football field. Eight. 869 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: When we was young, you did not shake your opponents here, 870 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: no matter what happened, whether you beat their ass eighties 871 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: something nothing, whether they booked your ass adie something that 872 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: you shook hands, you walked across the fields, you played 873 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: the game was honoring class, especially you were head coach. 874 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: I could see kids being mad at not shaking the 875 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: enemy's hand like fun, that we're not going out there 876 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: and not with the motherfucker's the thing he was bro 877 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You had people treating 878 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: him like ship when he was down there. That was disrespectful. 879 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: That coach let his kids disrespect Dion comes out of 880 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: what the hell is punk? As you know. I mean, 881 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: my thing is this, if I ever have I gonna 882 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: college football coach and this keid on my team calling 883 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: our position coach, you know that man, You're not playing 884 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: on my team no more. You suspended I was calling 885 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: Ship man. That just that was. Yeah, it's still ain't 886 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: cool because we have to address all that. See, we 887 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: can't point the finger at one thing and not call 888 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: the other stuff out it. It's like even when Jerry 889 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: Jones gave that whole backhanded ass comment. You know how 890 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones respond to Lebron for pointing that out, Like 891 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: why are you harut asked me about Jerry Jones being 892 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: the picture with all the races, right, he's saying it's 893 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: something like he made sure to say what Lebron has 894 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: made the most opportunities and made a lot of money. 895 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: People have made a lot of money with me too. 896 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: First of all, man, you're not giving nobody nothing For 897 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: every million dollars you don't spend on a football player, 898 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: you don't probably made five a team, So knock it off. 899 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: It's a business, you feel what I'm saying. A business. See, 900 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you all something. The whole business of 901 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: football is designed for to win games. Right. In the NFL, 902 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: it's about money. That's why you have guys um that 903 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: may have certain stipulations in their contract, like if they 904 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 1: get voted into the Pro Bowl. If you get voted 905 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: into the Pro Bowl, they gotta give you a bonus, right, 906 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: Or if you if you were a starter for so 907 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: many players, they gotta give you a bonus. I guarantee you, man, 908 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: you ask any players don't play in the NFL, they 909 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: would tell you when they're close to getting that bonus. 910 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: A coach with mysterious they put their ass on the 911 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: bench because these owners do not want to pay out 912 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: that bonus. They may say, hey, man, such a section. 913 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: If you know, if this motherfucker played five more plays, 914 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: we gotta pay his ass two million dollars. They were 915 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: six year ass down with the quickness or have a 916 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: doctor tell you that you asked that you heard of 917 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: some bullshit like that. You see what I'm saying. It's 918 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: a fucked up business, dog, so you gotta treat it accordingly. 919 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: Now that don't mean you go out there and disrespect people, 920 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: but you have to go out there with it in 921 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: mind that it ails a business. So any and everything 922 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: what happened, See, this is my prediction with college football anyway. 923 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: Eight It's always the key is to Peter Price right. 924 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: That's why they slowly changed the transfer route because they 925 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: would tell kids like, how do you gonna tell a 926 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: kid he can't transfer somewhere and you're living? Coaches great 927 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: contracts and league left them right. I don't understand this 928 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: era because of my day. They' you remember this when 929 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: you signed a recording contract of motherfucker's obligated to give 930 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: you this in that contract. It didn't like that the 931 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: football football was only I couldn't put out a motherfucking 932 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: record and then go, oh yeah, I didn't promote my 933 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: record good enough. So I'm about to hit the motherfucking 934 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: label portal and hey, hey, every other label, I'm free now. No, 935 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: he once, once I signed a contract, I had to 936 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: give the motherfucker a certain amount of records, and I 937 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: was locked in for a certain amount of years. Exactly 938 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: they made it. They make it down to where if 939 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker could fit in. And let's look, a lot of 940 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: the ship is for exposure and for the bread now, 941 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: because let's face it, if if, if I'm a hot 942 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: nigger at one place, right, but we're mediocre, but I'm hot, right, 943 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 1: I could jump in this motherfucking portal, man, and now 944 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: a motherfucker where I couldn't where I originally, where I 945 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: couldn't go, Nigga could snatch me up. Now you feel me. 946 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: He has got to be careful in that portal, bro, 947 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: because they say something like I think is something I 948 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: could be wrong. I wanted to be throwing numbers around, 949 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: but a good percentage of those kids that go in 950 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: the portal don't get picked up by other kids. And 951 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the other thing I don't like 952 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: about the portal is the fact that it takes away 953 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: from the high school recruise. Yes, it does. You see, 954 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: football has to be a game. High school was the 955 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: life force of college football. Right if we start cutting 956 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: that to where a coach say, but man, should I 957 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna go get Why why might we go sign 958 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 1: Karan from I here when I can get a dude 959 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 1: that don't play even if he didn't play that much. Hell, 960 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: he was on He was on Alabama's um played the 961 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: special teams in Alabama for two years. I'm gonna bring 962 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: them in. What it what it turns into? Bro? The 963 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: game is slowly turning into a pro game. But the 964 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: only kids people not benefited from it as the kids. 965 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: The coaches making millions of dollars. The schools are making 966 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: millions of dollars, right, everybody except the kids. Now they're 967 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: giving these kids these looking in a lot of things, 968 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: but the school they're not getting them the money from 969 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: the TV stuff that they are free to get sponsors 970 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: for people if they wanted. Somebody decided to come in 971 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: and get christ and hundred dollars that year, he could 972 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 1: take it, right, But he wasn't getting under that TV 973 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: money and none observes the winning and that other stuff. 974 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: But I do eaty body they needed in the IL. 975 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: Just start breaking these kids off and leting them participate 976 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: in the thing because they come into the same ship 977 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: professional athletes doing. Now. Hell, they can cut a kid 978 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: in college football now, which is what was crazy to me, 979 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: because one thing I always understood about college football, and 980 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 1: I tell everybody that from my kid on the yours 981 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: and everybody else line, when you start playing, you are 982 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: not guaranteed a starting job. When you go Twitter university. 983 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: You have to go earn that motherfucker. You gotta go 984 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: take a motherfucker's ship. And please believe, no matter how 985 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: well you play that year, they're bringing in somebody the 986 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 1: next year to replace your ass, and they're bringing somebody 987 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: in a year after place that guy. Right. I'm fine 988 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: with that. But this whole thing about coaches going to 989 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: schools and sign the contracts and making a commitment to 990 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: be somewhere, my thing is this, If you sign a contracts, 991 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: if you go be somewhere for three years, you need 992 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 1: to honor your motherfucking contract and stay your ask there. 993 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: You should have to stay there because you made your 994 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 1: decision to go because you were impacting other people's lives, 995 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: not just your own. You got kids, that's coming over there. 996 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: So I walked there. I go on the road to 997 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: all season. I go visit your house. I go visit 998 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: James house. I go over the tail line. Man, I 999 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: really love you, man, we have fun. I'm gonna make 1000 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: you the fish linebacker that you could possibly be one 1001 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: people one people won't and Line don't trust me. See 1002 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: look he is and trust people they meet people. Look, 1003 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 1: kids are very impressible. That's why I'd never have asked 1004 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: admitted to coach the team. That's why I ain't coached 1005 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: the last few years eight because I couldn't commit to 1006 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: the time because my thing is this, Man, I'm not 1007 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: going out working with no kids heads. I'm might gonna 1008 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: go out there and they get used to seeing coach 1009 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: steal around and I'm there one day, ain't there the 1010 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: next and this and that. I see how Line will 1011 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: get a text to me. Remember Line on somebody at 1012 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: one time and say it, Man, you forgot to get 1013 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: me hug. Kids get at taxed to adults. I don't 1014 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 1: care if they little like that, dude to they seventeen 1015 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: and eighteen. You see, you still got an host for 1016 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: the kids that's been been coaching for eight because they 1017 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: attached to you. You will be whoever better than their brain. 1018 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: This coach has these kids as coached. These kids coming 1019 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: out of high school feel the same way. They go 1020 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: there and trust people, and then it's a mind funk 1021 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: almost because you looked up man, dude just set up 1022 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: my living room at To me, they should have the 1023 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: right to get the funk on if they feel that way, 1024 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: especially if they don't have some motherfucker slip talk they 1025 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: asked and the going there. Because I'm gonna tell you, 1026 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: these coaches funk with kids heads. Man. It got so 1027 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: bad over here. Man, while I had motherfucker's over my 1028 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: house at eleven o'clock at night, dog trying to convince 1029 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: my son. On the day of signing. Dog, my son 1030 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: was just crying it. When it came down to sign 1031 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: he was just round his motherfucker like this because he 1032 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: got one person pulling in this way another person. And 1033 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: you gotta think about it, bro, all of these schools 1034 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: are very nice schools. You go to all of them, 1035 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 1: you want to commit to all of them when you 1036 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: go because it's all the same because they're showing you 1037 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: the best parts of everything. They're taking you to the 1038 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: coolest places. They're taking You're treating you like a star. 1039 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: You go to the hotel, You've got candy all in 1040 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: there and all kind of ship. You know what I mean. 1041 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: You're doing your thing. They're taking you out, showing you 1042 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: a good time. When you get that ship and nothing 1043 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: like that, you're like, where is all the fans? There 1044 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: are there? You're here now, motherfucker, you're here now. Man. 1045 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: I think it's just a fucked up situation. Man. I 1046 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 1: actually wish Dion the best of lucky in this new endeavor. 1047 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 1: Man with me for him, no matter how bad to get. 1048 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: What I don't want to have happened is that he 1049 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: goes to and have a disaster of a season, because see, 1050 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: we can't afford the funk up he when we do 1051 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: something wrong. We've not looked at as individuals. They put 1052 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: it on the whole black race because I know in 1053 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: the back of their mind. And then they said this 1054 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: for the longest, like they say, we couldn't play quarterback, 1055 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,479 Speaker 1: or they're not smart enough to play quarterback. They can't 1056 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: throw the ball, they're not intelligent enough um, all they 1057 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: can do is run. We proved that wrong. They said 1058 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: we can't coach football. We proved that wrong. There are 1059 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: a number of different now there. I don't know if 1060 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: we ever have a black owner in the NFL. Hopefully 1061 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: that happens one day. But as long as we got 1062 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: the system of the way it is, man, it's a 1063 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 1: need to repair. Because I'm gonna tell you what's about 1064 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: to happen. Eight. You got these springing leagues like the 1065 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: usf L and the XFL, And what people are not 1066 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 1: paying attention to. The XFL is putting their thing that 1067 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: open to people out of high school and college. So 1068 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. And the XFL paying for 1069 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: people to go to school. They're leting you do on 1070 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: school online. So if you didn't finish your degree or 1071 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: need to go, you know, get your degree, they're paying 1072 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: for that, even if you're not there, No more right, 1073 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: they're paying for that. So you think about it. If 1074 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: you're a high school kid that ain't really feeling a 1075 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: traditional school like that, no more right. It's just some kids, 1076 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: that's it's students, but they just don't like school. They 1077 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: don't like going to sit in the class for nine hours. 1078 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: They're going there to play football, right, So you think 1079 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: about it. If you're running back, Let's say you're running 1080 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,959 Speaker 1: back from Domingus and your family not really doing cool 1081 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: cook cool because the only people with that in their 1082 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: lives ship making money is quarterbacks and offensive players, right them. 1083 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: The dude is making big money. If you're a corner, 1084 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: you can make sixty fifty dollars, you're doing great, but 1085 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: you're not going They're not gonn getting them a million 1086 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: dollar deals like these other kids don't got right, you know, 1087 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: like to do the sc already a million there, dude, 1088 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: Bryce said, Alabama already a millionaire. But those positions that 1089 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: they can demand that type of money, right, you have 1090 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: to be realistic by it. Me myself, if I'm the 1091 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: number one running back coming out of high school and 1092 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't like school, I barely made it up, that motherfucker. 1093 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm considering going to the XFL and playing the spring 1094 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: because the thing is, there's the ticker to it, right. 1095 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to go to college to get traffic 1096 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: in NFL. Now, the whole keep the NFL. Now, if 1097 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: you're an n C double A player, that's the way 1098 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: it works, right. If you're n C double a player, right, 1099 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: you have to go to school for at least three seasons. Right, 1100 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: You're not making no money during that time. You gotta 1101 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: do this and do that. And you could go there 1102 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: and get fucked over. You can have your coach puts 1103 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: you when the bench talk bad about you when you 1104 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: don't get traffic. Right. But if you're a guy comes 1105 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: out of high school, I think the XFAIL top off 1106 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: of maybe seventy, which ain't no bad money for playing 1107 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: fucking ten games of football. You know you're making seventy 1108 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: racks and held the or the backs in there making 1109 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: half a million dollars. You know, the quarterbacks always make money. 1110 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: That's what I'm like. Damn they get ten times like 1111 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: wave more money than the regular you know players, right, 1112 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: But the quarterback is the man and the team. Right, 1113 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking like this, like you're looking at J. T. 1114 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: Daniels that came out of Mother Day. You know he 1115 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: got hurt of s C and him been a couple 1116 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: of bad situations, right, he would have damned they have 1117 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: been best to come out of high school and play 1118 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: in the XFL for three years, right, even if he 1119 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have played his first year and set the bench 1120 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: ball for two years and been eligible for the draft. 1121 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: They draft him out to XFL and say, hey, he 1122 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: don't you're gonna start seeing that in a few years. 1123 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: Watch to see because it's almost getting the weare. It 1124 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: don't make no sense to go play college football. There's 1125 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: too much sip they can happen. First of all, the 1126 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: motherfucker this dare Go probably not be there no more. 1127 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: You probably have two or three coordinators so a year, 1128 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: and that's very important. There's two there's two positions on 1129 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: the team, actually three positions on the team that that 1130 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: impact you. If you're a quarterback, if you're a right 1131 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: receiver and you're a dB, if they bringing motherfucker's and 1132 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: it has changing up the program off day. Let's say 1133 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: you're a press man corner, right, you get a coach 1134 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: that that wants you to do some whole other ship, right, 1135 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: That fucks your game up, right, It limits your game 1136 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: because you're not doing what you excel at. Right. Let's 1137 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: say you're a wide receiver and the motherfucker come in 1138 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: you want to run a ball seveny times a game. 1139 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna piss you off, right. The thing is, it's 1140 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: not a bad move to go play in the XFL. 1141 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: If you are a high school football player, you're going 1142 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: there and get your degree. You played for three years. Hell, 1143 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: the NFL probably like you even more because guess who 1144 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: plays in the XFL former NFL players. Everybody in that 1145 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: motherfucker's been in the league, some of them kids for 1146 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: former first round trafficks. So if you go out there 1147 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: ball against them for a long time, hell, you're gonna 1148 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: be ready. You're gonna be more prepared for the game, 1149 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: and you will be playing in college. Think about it. 1150 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: The game to turn to pro this and only people 1151 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,479 Speaker 1: not benefit as the kids. Dog, That's all I'm saying. 1152 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: You just got to watch out man with this ship. 1153 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I just, you know, like you said best the Dion 1154 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: in his situation. I hope people are able to uh 1155 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: get over you know, the fact that you know, uh 1156 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: that he uh took the job at Colorado. You know 1157 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: some people who wanted him to stay. I get it. 1158 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, I got a lot of you know, people 1159 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: upset about it, and a lot of people say, hey, 1160 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do. So it's just 1161 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you like this and we leave 1162 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: it like this, everybody else doing what they want to 1163 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: go get your paper? Huh right your paper? Dog? Is 1164 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: everybody else doing it? Dog? So so I don't know 1165 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: why it should be different. You know, we appreciate you 1166 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 1: all for tuning in and eight man, you came with 1167 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: the dudes tonight we were to start looking. You pick 1168 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the top of too a lot more often. Dog. I 1169 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: just you know, it's it's it's a lot of being 1170 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: going around. Also, just on one quick note, you know, 1171 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: I also see that they they arrested, you know, a 1172 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: couple of people in takeoffs, you know, murder. Uh so 1173 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, uh, glad that that's going down. Also seen 1174 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: some ship today where they say the family is you 1175 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: know over you know because you know, when you're young 1176 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: like that, you usually don't have a will. So it's 1177 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of interesting to see how that's gonna play out, 1178 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, with the family and you know what you know, 1179 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, money always fucks people up. Money and material ship. 1180 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: So you know, my nigger had cars and jewelry and 1181 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: you know probably homes and ship. You know, no telling 1182 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: what was in his bank account, so you know it's unfortunate, 1183 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: you know how that is. You got managers out there. 1184 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: You got homeboys that like helping with the bookings. Ain't 1185 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: no telling how many deposits, Niggers don't care. And now 1186 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, once you're sitting that deposit, that money ain't 1187 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: coming back, right, And you know, how about you think 1188 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: them dude is getting there getting the least couple of 1189 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: thousand the show? Yeah, I'm sure at least you know 1190 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: that they were stars, man, they were huge, and you know, 1191 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: forget the money, man. The saddest part about that whole 1192 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: situation is that that kid adn't even got a chance 1193 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: to live his life. Man, he wasn't even thirty years old. 1194 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Yet he wasn't you know, he wasn't He was a 1195 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: young dude. Man, he's a baby, and you know what, 1196 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: making all that money, and just because he was making 1197 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: money don't mean he gotta live. Hell, I don't think 1198 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I really became a man, dogs, will I was thirty 1199 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: years old. Don't get me wrong. I was a man, 1200 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: but I was immature the motherfucker right. Well, you feel me, 1201 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, prayers, man, Prayers to his family, man, his people. Man, 1202 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: that that's unfortunate situation. We just gotta do better all 1203 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the way around, bro right and you know, you've got 1204 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: another dynamic in this now because they said that the 1205 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: guy that allegedly shot him, everybody is in shock because 1206 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: they said he was a good dude. Yeah, what's your 1207 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: good dude? But you know what, James, it comes back 1208 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: to this ship right here. Man, you could be the 1209 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 1: nicest dude in the world, and all it takes for 1210 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: motherfucker's to say one thing to set somebody off door. 1211 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, you do something you regret 1212 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: that you can't take back. Right and be out there 1213 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: on that road, man, you be you. You keep your 1214 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: head up and watch the motherfucker's got there. You're not 1215 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: saying about me? Is is I've come to a time where, 1216 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of situations like that I tend 1217 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: to avoid, you know, um, sometimes being young, sometimes being 1218 01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know popular, you know, having angs or whatever, 1219 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: you have the attitude sometimes of you know, invincible, you 1220 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: know um, And especially when you're in a position to 1221 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: where you don't have beef with a lot of motherfucker's. 1222 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: You you like, you know, I'm cool with everybody mentality, 1223 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: But like I try to tell motherfucker's you can be 1224 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 1: that person. But it don't mean the people you around are, 1225 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, And it's unfortunate. Like I used to tell niggas, um, 1226 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, when I used to travel and take ten 1227 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: fifteen niggas with me and ship like that, I would 1228 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: be the most humblest nigger on the planet. Cool with you, yeah, 1229 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean, disagreements we can settle like men, talk it 1230 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: out whatever. I can't control the other fourteen niggers in 1231 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: the pack. You get me, and I might know a 1232 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 1: few of those that I could talk to, but you 1233 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: can't control everybody that's roaming with the crew. You feel 1234 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: me with that cruise ship dog, I learned the horrid way. 1235 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: I did that one time, taking motherfucker's what your dog? 1236 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: After that it was just me and my DJ though. 1237 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just unfortunately, you know, because everybody is 1238 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 1: their own man at you know, I'm saying, you know, 1239 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. I'm my own man, whether 1240 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: it's me and you or it's me and fifty niggers, 1241 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm my own man. And it comes to a point 1242 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: to where you can't tell me what the fund to do. 1243 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: And if if I'm that type of motherfucker, if I 1244 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting off, I'm get off. I don't 1245 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: give a funk who it is. I don't care. You 1246 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: get me. You could be my best ace coom boom 1247 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: in the world, but you can't tell me ship. I'm 1248 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna poorly staying out and I'm gonna go. You get me, 1249 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 1: and I don't care about the situation of who it is, 1250 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 1: or who it might be, or who might catch or whatever. 1251 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm my own motherfucker. You know that, just like I 1252 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: know it. So you just got to know your surrounders 1253 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: and know the motherfucker's you're with. And I'm type of nigga. 1254 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 1: If I can't count on my hand on my one 1255 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 1: to fill I know that nigga, that nigga, then maybe 1256 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,479 Speaker 1: this ain't the place I need to be. You feel 1257 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you can't control everybody, you can't control them. I don't 1258 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: give a funk who you are, whether you're the nigga 1259 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: with the hundred millions and you leading the whole pack, 1260 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 1: you can't control a man's actions. I don't give a funk. 1261 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: You get me, and some of those actions, unfortunately be 1262 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: misguided and may be fun up everybody not thinking like you. 1263 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: You're thinking, Hey, I'm gonna come here, be peaceful, get 1264 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 1: my eyes back to the crib and the night is 1265 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: over right. Everybody don't hide you. So I just gotta 1266 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,560 Speaker 1: watch your surround. Just man, watch you. I tell my 1267 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,600 Speaker 1: son that all the time you get me, you just 1268 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 1: gotta watch you. You're around. Man, you give me what 1269 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 1: you can't control, you can't you. I don't give a 1270 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 1: funk if you you would have packed, you would have 1271 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: packed six kids, and and one of them motherfucker's want 1272 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 1: to snatch a snicker. He gonna snatch that motherfucking There's 1273 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it. And now y'are all 1274 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna get caught for that motherfucking pizza candy. You get me, 1275 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: So watch who you with, don't be influenced by ship. 1276 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: And then sometimes you just need not be around the 1277 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: motherfuck stay. You can't get no ship at home, can you? 1278 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: That's real, the boring motherfucker always you do what man? 1279 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: Somebody say to me, Man, I forget one of my uncles. 1280 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: He said, Man, ain't nothing going on good at eleven 1281 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,640 Speaker 1: o'clock at night. He's ain't nothing going on good at 1282 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: the level three o'clock in the morning. It might be 1283 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: some ship crack and steal and left. We know you 1284 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:31,800 Speaker 1: have for sure. Man, alright, I appreciate your fellers. Man alright, 1285 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 1: minute right. Well, that concludes another episode of Against the 1286 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the i Heart app 1287 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: and subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast. For Apple users, 1288 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 1: find a purple mic on the front of your screen, 1289 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 1: subscribe to the show, leave a comment and rating. Executive 1290 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: producers for The Gangster Chronicles podcast and Norman Steve James mcdownald, 1291 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: Rand M c A. Tyler, our visual media directors Brian White, 1292 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: and our audio editors Taylor Hayes. The Game the Chronicles 1293 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: is a production of i Heart Media networking the Black 1294 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: Effect podcast Network. 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