1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Here are the NFL Report Week seven almost done. I'm 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Steve White here with James Palmer. James, we were both 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: at really good games yesterday. You got the Chiefs increasing 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: their lead in AFC West. I was at the Steelers 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Rams games. They won that game, and JP, let's kind 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: of bring before we get started to hear people into 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: our world pre game, some of the conversations, some of 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the things we noticed. We're on the field hours before 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: kickoff doing our job. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: I like the use of hours, Steve, because I believe 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: I have arrived at Arrowhead on Sunday morning at about 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: seven am for a three twenty five kickoff. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: People are playing oooho, no, no no. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 4: I was there a long time, and I could be 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: there even longer. 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: I love Arrowhead and it was maybe the most beautiful 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: day Kansas City has ever had. 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: It was gorgeous. 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: While I'm standing in the right outside the visiting tunnel 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: talking to Keenan Allen, just kind of watching him catch 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: these balls over his shoulder, one after another, ball over 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: his shoulder. Kenny, you're doing this to get your the 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: perception of it right, to see the ball in each stadium. 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: And He's like, you got to know exactly how it 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: looks in every stadium maybe, and these red seats are 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: not nice to catch against it. 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: And I was fascinated by that. 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Steve just a receiver spending a ton of time the 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: same way an outfielder might go out there and just 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: throw balls against a wall in a visiting stadium in 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, just to see, you know, how the 32 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: ball comes off the wall. He's sitting there seeing how 33 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: the seats would impact how he sees the football. What 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: goes on pregame maybe is more elaborate than a lot 35 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: of people think, especially with quarterbacks. 36 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: It really is jap, I mean. 37 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: And part of what we do and part of our 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: jobs is to see little things, little nuances like you 39 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: will see players actually go walk to certain parts of 40 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: the field, like how basketball players would dribble on the 41 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: wood to see dead spots. They'll go see if there's 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: a soft spot in the turf, or if there's artificial turf, 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: if there's a pile up of the rubber pellet and 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: a heavier part of the field than where they are 45 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: in the other part of the field. It's a true science, 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: and it's smart, I mean. And that's why these guys 47 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: really know exactly what part of the field they can 48 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: do certain things and what part what they can't. 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: But we got to start the show off with the 50 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: game of the week, James. 51 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: That was Sunday night with a Philadelphia Eagles where they 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: came in and they did a muscle flex and aj 53 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: Brown style muscle flex in the second half of the 54 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: game to shut down the high flying Miami Dolphins. 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say Joe Brown. They were in Kelly Greens, 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna say what Jerome Brown, maybe white. I'm 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: gonna say light type of physical flex up front as 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: they were rocking the Kelly Greens. From my childhood. You 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: gotta remember, Steve that this Miami's Dolphins offense. Obviously, they 60 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: were shorthanded a little bit on the offensive line, Jaylen 61 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: Waddle battled injuries throughout the game. 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 4: But this is a group. 63 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: Let me look at this right now, coming into this game, 64 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: number one in points per game, total offense, passing offense, 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: rushing offense, red zone offense, and Philly holds Miami to 66 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: season lows in points, seventeen, total yards, passing yards, rushing 67 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: yards just forty five. 68 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: And time of session. 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: I was blown away by this defensive front of the 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles and how they were able to manhandle that 71 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: group up front we've seen. Really we all talk about 72 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: the exposive plays with Miami, but it's all predicated off 73 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: of the run, right, That's exactly where they want to 74 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: start this. And the way that they weren't just supposed 75 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: to be physical on the inside with guys like Jordan 76 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Davis and Jalen Carter and the ageless Fletcher Cox, but 77 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: the way guys like Hassan Reddick Josh Sweat played on 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: the outside because of that wide zone run game. Extremely 79 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: impressive performance by that front seven, because remember that Philly 80 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: secondary was banged up. For that front group not to 81 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: give to a whole lot of time. I think they 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: hit him like eight times, sacking four times, a bunch 83 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: of tackles for loss. That group up front did not 84 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: give to a whole lot of time to throw the football. 85 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: And you talked about the of the edge defenders. 86 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's huge when you're trying to stop that 87 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: outside joon runs game. 88 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: If they set the edge or they kind of. 89 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Jam up that pocket off tackle, that really makes things 90 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: difficult for the offense. But again, let's not forget the 91 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins were down three rotational players, two starters on the 92 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: offensive line. I still don't know if this trekes a difference. 93 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: And then this is what made me think of a 94 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: little bigger picture stuff here, and that is, if you 95 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: do not want to go through Philadelphia, you better handle 96 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: your business San Francisco, because the Eagles showed in that 97 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: game last night that they can play bully ball, they 98 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: can play cold weather football, and they've shown in the 99 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: past if they need to, they can play high flying football. 100 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Because remember this game was tied up at seventeen in 101 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: the second half, and then that's when all of. 102 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: A sudden they start. 103 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: They have the pick by Darius Slay right right down 104 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: there in the reds on Miami was threatening. 105 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: I mean, they had a. 106 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Nice drive going Sleigh gets to pick they put together 107 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: and I think it was an eighty three yard drive 108 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: thirteen plays, two toush push conversions on fourth down. 109 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: And isn't this funny? 110 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: JP If it were Brandon Staley who went for the 111 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: fourth and one on his own twenty six, we'd be 112 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: killing him. But because Nick Siriani and these Eagles offensive 113 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: made that tous push an automatic play, We're like, oh yeah, 114 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna get it. 115 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: No. First to nine. 116 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Steve's first to nine according to Mixer every down distance 117 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: they have, which is a great quote and it'll probably 118 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: be on multiple T shirts in the Philadelphia area. What 119 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: you're saying exactly, Steve, is that they can beat you 120 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: multiple ways. You can see them go downfield as that 121 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: part of the game is coming back together, which we 122 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: saw last year, but it struggled early with a new 123 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: play caller. 124 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: In Brian Johnson. 125 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: AJ Brown downfield, it's not a fifty to fifty ball. 126 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: The way he uses his body to shield defenders, it's 127 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, a guy playing the low 128 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: block as a power forward. Reminds me of Charles Barkley, 129 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: just kind of using your body to put the defender 130 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: on one side of you. 131 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: AJ Brown has been remarkable if they can. 132 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: Also play the bullyball of running the football with their quarterback, 133 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: with multiple running backs and their dominant offensive line. And 134 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: I love what you said about going into Philadelphia because 135 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: that was a big part of this game in terms 136 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: of a learning experience for Mike McDaniel and his group. 137 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 4: If you look at the. 138 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Two losses they have, it's two tough environments to play 139 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: in in Buffalo and in Philadelphia, and I think his 140 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: group learned was in an atmosphere like this against a 141 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: team as good as this, you can't have small mistakes 142 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: like he mentioned where maybe they had a lineman issue. 143 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: Steve Right, the offensive lineman weren't exactly in the splits 144 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: that they wanted them to be in. And he's like, 145 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: a team like Philly upfront will take advantage of that. 146 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: They were behind the chains repeatedly because of the way 147 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: Philly played upfront. You can't make those small mistakes on 148 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: on the road against a team like Philadelphia. 149 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: All Right, And just real quick, let's flash back a 150 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and we had forty nine Ers 151 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: safety Talano Hufona on here. 152 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: We were talking about their hot start. 153 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: He said it was their mission out of the gate 154 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to make sure they don't slip up so they can 155 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: secure home field when they get to the playoffs. Now 156 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: we're probably seeing some of the thinking with the way 157 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: that Philadelphia has played. Hey, JP, you were at a 158 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: fantastic game last night and you had a really interesting 159 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: postgame interview as well. 160 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: Patrick. 161 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 2: Everybody in the country knows you're looking for Travis Kelce. 162 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: How do you guys still do this game in and 163 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: game out. Yeah. 164 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: He's a special player, man. The way he understands the game, 165 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: he understands coverages and gets himself. Man, it's special. And 166 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: I was probably the other guys are steping up and 167 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 5: taking some pressure off him. They did a good job 168 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 5: of kind of helping going to get him in the 169 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 5: second half. Other guys stepped up and we were able 170 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: to find a way to win. Mentioned the other guys 171 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: stepping up the first touchdown you have his to MVS. 172 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 5: How are things coming with this wide receiver group? Do 173 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: you feel like you're turning a corner in a sense? Yeah, 174 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: I feel like we've gotten better and better. You know, 175 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 5: it has him in the typical Chiefs as far as offensively, 176 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 5: but every week you can see us stepping in the 177 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: positive direction, and so we want to keep getting better 178 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: and better and play our best FOTBA at the end 179 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: of the season. 180 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: What we've always seen his spags gainst this defense getting 181 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: better as the year goes on, but they've started out 182 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: so hot. 183 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: What's it like playing with the defense that you guys 184 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: have right now? 185 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it takes a lot of pressure off us. I 186 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: mean the way they're able to shut the door. I mean, 187 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: that's a great offense, and they had a good first half, 188 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 5: but the defense made adjustments, did a great job in 189 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 5: the second half whenever we were struggling. And that's team football, man, 190 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: and that's what you got to do in this league 191 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: to get a win. 192 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: Going joy it. 193 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 6: I appreciate you. 194 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: We cut off the bro hub. 195 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: That's all right, Steve, But you know Pat said he 196 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: was always nice to give a nice little chat with 197 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: James Palmer. This was the exact same score as the 198 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: Eagles and the Dolphins. It was thirty one seventeen, and Steve, 199 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you talked about playing at home. Is Patrick Mahomes ever 200 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: going to play a road playoff game in his career. 201 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: We'll find out because he's yet to do it. 202 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: And they're really off to a scream and start in 203 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: the division, and we'll get to that. But what stands 204 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: out to me is that second question right there, because 205 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: we know what Travis Kelsey was able to do once 206 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: again going for a gazillion yards and having a million 207 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: of them in the first half, and Patrick Mahomes. 208 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: And him working something together. 209 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: But we've always been constantly talking about this wide receiver 210 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: group and how are things coming. I got some intel 211 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: being there this past Sunday, and what stands out to me, Steve, 212 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: is the way that Patrick Mahomes has handled this process 213 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: with these new pieces, with some younger guys like Sky 214 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: Moore and Rashid Rice, and how he's gone about the 215 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: process of the week and during the game. I've been 216 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: told coaches have been almost in awe of the way 217 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: he's had patience with this process, the way he has 218 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: been a coach on the field during practice, during games, 219 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: the way he's put the effort in. And I mentioned 220 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: that word patience, Steve, how many top tier quarterbacks do 221 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: you think have a lot of patients when things are 222 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: not working with a certain player or a certain group. 223 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: They sometimes don't have it. Some of the greats haven't 224 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: had it. This is an aspect of Patrick Mahomes's game. 225 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: They mentioned maybe another tool in his toolbox in terms 226 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: of making him a better player and a better, more 227 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: complete quarterback in the long run. Because of this struggle here, 228 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: you saw his play with the receivers a little. 229 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: Bit better in this game. It's turning a corner in 230 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: a sense. It seems. 231 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we saw Tom Brady have that patience 232 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: with wide receivers because you know, the Patriots really never 233 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: gave him a great one. At least Patrick has had 234 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: tybreek Hill for a little bit. We have We've seen 235 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks not have it. But you know, I love 236 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the question. You know you asked him about Travis Kelsey. 237 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: By the way, Kelsey twelve catches for one hundred and 238 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: seventy nine yards for a touchdown a little bit later 239 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: on the show, so they have a former stand for 240 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: coach David Shaw on here, or we're gonna talk about 241 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: the tight ends and how awestin that they've been. But again, 242 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I want to go a bigger picture here. Let's look 243 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: at the AFC West. The Chiefs are already three games 244 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: up on the second place Raiders, who've got three wins 245 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: right now. Those Raiders who win in Chicago got beat 246 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: by Tyson Bagent yesterday. This is just another one. I'm 247 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: sure the division is not something that's their goal. Let's 248 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: win the division, but you know that's always the first 249 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: step so they can get part of that, buy secure 250 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: the whole field, whatever that may be. But I want 251 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: to look at the rest of the division because once 252 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: again we see the Chargers who typically play the Chiefs close. 253 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what they've got going on, James, because 254 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: to me, they're still probably the second best team in 255 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: the division, although they're not playing like it. 256 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: They're two and four right now. 257 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: And to get to the question you ask Patrick Mahomes, 258 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, every one in the world knows that's where 259 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: you're going with the ball, and they allow him to 260 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: catch twelve or thirteen passes, make somebody else beach. And 261 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: this is why Brandon Staley is now going to start 262 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: here if he thought he was on the hot seat 263 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton looking over his shoulder last year. Right now, 264 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: that side the ball that's supposed to be his specialty 265 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: where they put all this money and it is not working, 266 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: especially with an example like this. 267 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: This is really going to bring the pressure, and I 268 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: get it. 269 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: We don't know Denver. 270 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Maybe they start playing better, maybe the Raiders start playing better. 271 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: But this again is a Chiefs division. And I'm not 272 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: saying that Chargers can't make a run. In terms of 273 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: their schedule. 274 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: It's not easy, but it's not brutal. 275 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they've got the gumption to 276 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: string together four wins to put themselves back in a 277 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: playoff picture. 278 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with the Chief Steve when you say 279 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: this is their division, because I think being in the 280 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: driver's seat here, they have the ability. And I won't 281 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: say this was told directly to me in the locker room, 282 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: but it was kind of hinted at post game that 283 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: there's certain players like say a Jeric McKinnon that we're 284 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: kind of just we know what he can do. It's 285 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: almost November, it's almost December. We'll start firing Jet up 286 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: a little bit. They have that luxury, no lie, because 287 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: of this spot they're in right now, because of the 288 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: depth they have on both sides of the ball. 289 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: I think the number of skilled guys they have. 290 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: They have multiple running backs with Clyde Edwards, Hilaire Isaiah Pacheco. 291 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: They're running the ball more. 292 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: Than they have in years past. And then on the 293 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, they are deeper as well. 294 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: And the massive injury that happened in that game Sunday 295 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: night to their middle linebacker Nick Bolton, he dislocates his wrist. 296 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: He's gonna need surgery. To my understanding's gonna be out 297 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: several weeks. We know what Spags puts on the middle 298 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: linebacker right in this system, Steve. They signed Drew Tranquil 299 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: in the offseason and when Bolton was out earlier in 300 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: this season, I was told by coaches he filled in 301 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: unbelievably to the point that they needed a fine snaps 302 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: for him when Bolton came back because he was playing 303 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: so well. Those type of moves to give yourself some depth. 304 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: When Drew Tranquil will slide in, not saying it's plug 305 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: and play, but a very good, very smart player coming 306 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: in for Nick Bolton. The depth of the Chiefs helps 307 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: them during this time. Coming up, we are going to 308 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: travel to what was going to be, Steve, I thought 309 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: one of the greatest games of the weekend between the 310 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: Lions and the Ravens. Well, the Ravens took the Lions 311 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: behind the woodshed and just whoop, it was insane. We'll 312 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: talk about that was Sherry Burriss coming up on more 313 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: the NFL Report. Welcome back to the NFL Report. James Palmer, 314 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: Steve Witch with you were joined by Sherry Burris, who 315 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: was at what I thought, Sherry was going to be 316 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: the game of the weekend, the Baltimore Ravens hosting the 317 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. But what happened. The Ravens won the toss, 318 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: they decided to take the football. Strange, yes, but they 319 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: score on their opening drive. That's all the points they 320 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: need because they won thirty eight to six. We've been 321 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: waiting for this offense to finally click with Todd Monkin 322 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson working together. What stood out Cherry to 323 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: you the most? Specifically maybe when they're down there in 324 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: the red zone. 325 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: Well, James kind of starting off, it just felt like, 326 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 7: you know, an Oprah said, like you get a touchdown, 327 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 7: you get a touchdown, you get a touchdown. 328 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 6: Everyone seemingly finding the end zone. 329 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 7: And you know, just a couple of weeks ago, we 330 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 7: were talking about them being the best team in the 331 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 7: red zone, but the last two weeks kind of faltering. 332 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 7: Quarterback Lamar Jackson saying it was just a miscommunication er. 333 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 7: Offensive coordinator Todd Monkin said, the simple. 334 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: Solution is scheme it better, call. 335 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 7: It better, coach it better, and then execute it better. 336 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 7: And that's exactly what we saw. They were five of 337 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 7: six in the red zone. And as you mentioned it, dude, 338 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 7: you thought this gonna be such a great game. Both 339 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 7: really strong defenses. Pregame, I was thinking this was going 340 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 7: to be a defensive chess match. Turns out I was 341 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 7: only fifty percent right. As more the raven side that 342 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 7: really held up there end of the bargain. But it 343 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 7: really was impressive that they were able to make that 344 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 7: fix for their red zone struggles so quickly. And you know, see, 345 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 7: if I looked back at my text messages, it was 346 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 7: only about an hour and a half into the game, 347 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 7: you texted me saying, Hey, we have to talk about 348 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 7: this game on Monday. 349 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 6: I don't even know if it was halftime yet. 350 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 7: If that even goes to show just how they were 351 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 7: able to turn things around on offense, they had five 352 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 7: hundred and three yards of offense. Head coach Dan Campbell saying, 353 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 7: Lamar just absolutely grilled them with his arm. So as 354 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 7: much as we've waited to see, now through it with 355 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 7: seven weeks of this season, I think this is really, 356 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: you know, the glimpse of what we expected from this 357 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 7: Ravens offense so far this season. 358 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sert, it take. 359 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: It takes a little time, and uh, you know, I 360 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: was talking to someone recently said it takes about five 361 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: or six games, and that's where they are because you 362 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: could see last week when they played in London, and 363 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: how about that they did not take the buy when 364 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: they came back from London. 365 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: That they were starting to get it together. 366 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: They had the red zone issues, but they really cleaned 367 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: house against the Lions. 368 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: And to me, it was their offensive line. 369 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a dominant performance by Ronnie Stanley 370 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: and the gang that really shaped it up. But Sherry 371 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: also the defense we talked about. The Lions had one 372 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: of the highest scoring offenses in the NFL. They don't 373 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: think they get held to six points? What about that 374 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: side of the ball for the. 375 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 7: Ravens absolutely lights out? And postgame I asked to Mark Andrews, 376 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 7: if the defense is able to play like they did 377 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 7: in that game against the Lions, how does this kind 378 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 7: of piece together the puzzle of everything they want to do? 379 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 7: And he says, their defense sets the tone. That starts 380 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 7: with Roquan Smith Patrick Queen. They had five sacks against 381 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 7: the Lions. Detroit only allowed ten sacks all season, So 382 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 7: that doesn't say anything about what this defense is able 383 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 7: to prove and to show. And again it does really 384 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 7: start with Roquon. He's just such a delight off the 385 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: football field. He is an absolute beast out there. We 386 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 7: saw him kind of chirping a couple different times on 387 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 7: the JumboTron earlier in the week. He said he's from 388 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 7: the show me business, right. He wanted the Lions to 389 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 7: prove to him how good they were. After the game, 390 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 7: he kind of gave us a little tidbit of what 391 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 7: he said in his pregame speech. He said, guys, this 392 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 7: is M and T Bank Stadium. This is the bank, 393 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 7: This is not a Lions den. We are not going 394 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 7: to let them come in here, he said. He told 395 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 7: the security guards to lock the doors. They are not 396 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 7: going to let the Lions out until they were ready 397 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 7: talking the talk, walking the walk, and the defense is 398 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 7: really following suit. 399 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: I don't know share if that's up the fire code 400 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: or not. If you're allowed to just lock the wars. Yeah, 401 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: crowded stadium, I'm not sure that's take it to get out. 402 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 7: We all left at the same time. The security guard 403 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 7: did not let any of us out any earlier. 404 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: It was horrend it. 405 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: That's phenomenal. I have to one quick note on this game. Honestly, 406 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: it stands out to me. Sherry in the red zone, 407 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: specifically Andy U, Steve is I had a conversation with 408 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: Sean Payton the other day about the mobility of quarterbacks 409 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: in the red zone and how is just an added 410 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: really element that a defense needs to account for. But 411 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: what we're seeing, because we know the mobility is there 412 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson, is how patient he was looking to 413 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: throw the football and not just take off and run 414 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: down the red zone. To make defenses sit there and 415 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: have to kind of plaster and hold for a second 416 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: and maybe not just take off immediately like you used 417 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: to do a couple of years ago. Another added element 418 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: down there that makes this offense in the red zone 419 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: even more dynamic. 420 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 7: But he was in the pocket at nine seconds. They 421 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 7: able to scramble and still throw a TD, right, I 422 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 7: mean it's like what else? 423 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: What else can you do? Yeah, Attorney appreciate it. Thanks 424 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: so much. 425 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: Cherry really appreciate you. 426 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Hey, you know, and JP Sherry gave us some good 427 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: stuff because the Ravens now our leading that that AFC 428 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: North and I was at the game with the Rams 429 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: and the Steelers and the Steelers now four and two. 430 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Remember the Steelers and Kenny Pickett came back and beat 431 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: the Ravens. A couple of weeks ago. Kenny Picket, as 432 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: we have said before, is that guy in the fourth quarter. 433 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: I know when he went forward on fourth down late 434 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: in the game to close it out. The measurement might 435 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: have favored the Steelers right there for what they did 436 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: on the review, but that doesn't deny what happened with 437 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the fourth quarter. Here's Kenny Pickett seven 438 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: of seven for one hundred and thirty eight yards. 439 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter. He had only completed ten passes 440 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: before that. 441 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: And the way that they operated with the way he played, 442 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: they were able to run the ball, sustain the drives, 443 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: keep the ball away from the Rams, and jp when 444 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: the Rams did have it, it was TJ. Watt who 445 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: did a number to help slow the Rams, to slow 446 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: the Rams down. But besides the Steelers staying in contention 447 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: with that victory, the rest of the division is right 448 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: there because the Browns won and the Bengals had to 449 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: buy not a losing record. 450 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: So what about this overall division? 451 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: When you see the way the Ravens are playing right now, 452 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers look like they are only getting better. With 453 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson coming in at wide receiver. The Browns found 454 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: a way PJ. Walker, and now the Bengals have had 455 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: it an extra week for Joey Beatty get healthy. 456 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: It's remarkable to look at this right now and say, 457 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: you know, we know what the Browns are, They're a 458 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: very good team. We know what the Bengals are a 459 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: very good team, and that the Steelers are right now 460 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: currently second in the division, and they're the only team, 461 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: Steve that has yet to. 462 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 4: Lose within this division. 463 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: They are two to zero in the ASC North and 464 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: everybody else has a loss, which I find very interesting. 465 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: What I'm curious about, and we'll get to this in 466 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 2: just a little bit with our man Jeff Chadeah in 467 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: terms of the confidence he has with a variety of 468 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: teams in the NFL. He has confidence in a lot 469 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: of teams in this division. I'm curious when you mentioned 470 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: that fourth quarter. I'm impressed by Kenny Pickett, but the 471 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: three other quarters. You can't have sustained success throughout a 472 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: season by playing a quarter of a game. I'm impressed 473 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: by it. I'd like to see them use both running 474 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: backs a little bit more. What's hold up? 475 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: The Steelers did this all through Ben Roethlisberger's career. 476 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: JP. 477 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger would look very ordinary for three quarters. 478 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: And they would find a way to stay close. And 479 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: then he was one of the best clutch quarterbacks in 480 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, which is why he's knocking on the door 481 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: to Canton because of what he did, and what Kenny 482 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: Pickett is doing right now is very much in line 483 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: with what Roethlisberger did. 484 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: Listen, I don't think anybody in Pittsburgh is gonna argue 485 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: with you if you're gonna say Kenny Pickett's. 486 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: Gonna turn out to be Ben Roethlisberger. 487 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's gonna be up to say that 488 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: if that's what ends up having with Kenny Pickett. But listen, 489 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: what I do like about it, Steve, is what does 490 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett in the fourth quarter kind of show you. 491 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of what Mike Tomlin builds with 492 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: this team, right, It's a little bit of how he 493 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: plays this physical style of football. A lot of ugly 494 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: wins come out of Pittsburgh, but what are they anyway, 495 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: They're wins. And I think, actually this is kind of 496 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: the build of Kenny Pickett in a sense, kind of 497 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: his you know, the way he is wired in a 498 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: sense put the other three quarters together and then you 499 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: might have something offensively. But I think this defense is 500 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: still playing really well in Pittsburgh, and I think ugly 501 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: wins are wins, Steve, and that's the way Mike Tomlin does. 502 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: He wins five career comebacks in eighteen starts. For Kenny Pickett, 503 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: he has got four or six fourth quarter comebacks in 504 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: his eleven wins. 505 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: You tell me he's not gonna be the next Ben Roethlisberger. Wait, 506 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: that's for a later day, because coming. 507 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Back, we have a special guest join us talk about 508 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: National tight Ends Day and also about the people throwing 509 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: those tight ends the ball. We're back at the NFL 510 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: Report and JP we now are making having David Shaw, 511 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: the former head coach of Stanford University, now with NFL Network, 512 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: making his NFL Report debut. 513 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: Coach, thank you so much for joining us. 514 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 8: Glad y'all have me, and I'm ready to go. 515 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: Well here here's we're gonna start with. 516 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, as if you didn't know, we only hyped 517 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: it up for like a week or so. It was 518 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: National tight Ends Day on Sunday, and so many of them, 519 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: so many of them showed out. We had Travis Kelsey, 520 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: we had Dallas Goddard, you know, even Mike Gasicki catches 521 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: the winning touchdown for the New England Patriots. So let's 522 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: focus on the position because the tight end has become 523 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: a focal point in the NFL, kind of an unguardable 524 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: chess piece. As somebody who loved tight ends at Stanford, 525 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: what have you seen with the evolution of the position 526 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: or maybe even the player who plays the position. 527 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean this goes back years of course from Gronk, 528 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 9: even Tony Gonzalez before that. You're looking for a difference maker, 529 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 9: and us at Stanford Universe, of course, we see ourselves 530 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 9: as as tight en. You guys like Zach and Kobe 531 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 9: Fleeener and Austin and Dalton Schultz has been to Pro Bowls. 532 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 9: We're looking for guys that are difference makers, guys that 533 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 9: play basketball and have great body control, big bodies, but 534 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 9: they can control their bodies. Can they jump? Can they 535 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 9: change direction? Can they go up and get rebounds? Can 536 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 9: they We're looking for guys that are recruited as defensive ends. Also, 537 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 9: they've got that toughness that that physical play can play 538 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 9: at the line of scrimmage. But as you're looking at 539 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 9: craviit Kelse. You're looking for a guy that can maneuver 540 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 9: in space. Can he get separation away from a defender. 541 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 9: Can you find that hole and much like it and 542 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 9: have an athletic quarterback. When that quarterback moves, can he 543 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 9: change direction to move with that guy? And then the 544 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 9: special guys they do the run after the catch, the 545 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 9: touch the ball, make somebody miss, hurtle over, somebody run 546 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 9: through a tackle. 547 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 8: So you're looking for that piece because a lot. 548 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 9: Of times, especially at the NFL level, the high level 549 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 9: corners sometimes cancel out the high level receivers. So now 550 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 9: here's that guy that can work the middle of the field. 551 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 9: It's a shorter throw for the quarterbacks. Even the deep ball, 552 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 9: the seam balls are easier throws than the deep outside balls. 553 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 9: And a guy that can work the middle. Now you've 554 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 9: got a guy that's an athlete. He's a difference maker. 555 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 9: Maybe a little bit bigger than the safeties, maybe a 556 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 9: little bit faster than the linebackers that are trying to 557 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 9: cover him, and he can make those big plays for 558 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 9: you in games. 559 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: Coach, I'm curious you mentioned understanding space. I think that 560 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: might be one of Travis Kelcey's biggest and most successful 561 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: traits that he has in the middle of the field. 562 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: And you mentioned basketball in a sense, how much is 563 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: that situational awareness as opposed to speed? 564 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 4: Almost maybe more. 565 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: Valuable if you tie that with football IQ at the position, 566 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: because it seems like the guys that have that high 567 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: football IQ at the tight ends, our EMA is even 568 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: almost more valuable. 569 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 10: Yeah. 570 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 9: I didn't know if I was gonna ever see anybody 571 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 9: better than Tony Gonzalez, but Travis Kelsey is right up there. 572 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 9: That feel for space and can the guy see me? 573 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 9: I see but around a linebacker, I'm nodding and moving 574 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 9: this safety. 575 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 8: Oh my god, my quarterback just moved plant. 576 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 9: I'm gonna find a quiet space so we can get 577 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 9: me the ball and then that catch and. 578 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 8: Turned to get yards after the catch. 579 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 9: Like those things are so important and for guy to 580 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 9: have that kind of a feel with nowadays especially, and 581 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 9: the defenses are playing great this year, changing coverages and blitzes, 582 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 9: and a lot of the scorings down and passing yards 583 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 9: are down. But those guys that can find those weak 584 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 9: spots and the changing defense, they can change games for you. 585 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Coach, we're talking about with you know things that players 586 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: can do, But what about the evolution of the thought 587 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: process of the coach, Because a lot of times it 588 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: was he's got to be in line, he's got to 589 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: be able to do this. But now we're seeing all 590 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: these people figuring out how to use that athletic player 591 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: that you just talked about. 592 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, when you Travis Kelcey, Young Laporta, some of these 593 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 9: guys that are coming in the league, Kincaid, Now it's 594 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 9: a lot of fun because it's not a normal chess piece. Right, 595 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 9: Sometimes this chess piece can break the rules. Right, He's 596 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 9: not supposed to be this fluid, this fast, this athletic, 597 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 9: this smart. So now you can move him from outside right. 598 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 9: You see him playing outside, you see him playing in 599 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 9: the slot, you see him playing inline. You see him 600 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 9: playing in the backfield and sneaking out in pass routes. 601 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 9: You see him in pass protection. But then the next 602 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 9: after pass protection they check pass protection out. That ability 603 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 9: to move these guys around and play them in different 604 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 9: places creates havoc on the defense. Especially now you're a 605 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 9: defensive coordinator. Used to be the tight ends going to 606 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 9: line up either the next to the left tackle or 607 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 9: the right tackle. Now Oh my gosh, he can line 608 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 9: up anywhere. And now who do we have matched up on? Oh, 609 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 9: we have a zone blitz. Oh my gosh. Now if 610 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 9: we don't get home, this guy's gonna find the seam. 611 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 9: Do we need to put our top coverman on him? 612 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 9: Do we make somebody else available? Do we cheat the 613 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 9: safety to his side? Now we might open up something else. 614 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 9: So when you're able to move a player like that 615 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 9: from one position to another outside inside backfield and have 616 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 9: them run a variety of routes, now you're putting that 617 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 9: much more pressure on the defensive coordinator. 618 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: It's gotta be exciting to be an offensive mine, right 619 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: when you have these pieces that you say break the 620 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: rules of chess coach, So Bobby Fisher wouldn't be very 621 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: excited about where you're going with the game of chess. 622 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: But it seems like it can go to a whole 623 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: other dimension, maybe three D chess, I don't know. But 624 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: let's talk about and move on to the guys that 625 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: are throwing the football to these tight ends and everyone else, 626 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: and some guys that have had some experience. Let's go 627 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: inside the Bears locker room for a rookie that is 628 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: out there doing things in his first start. 629 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, y'all had my back from the jump man. 630 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 11: You know we had adversity last week justin going down 631 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 11: and you know, right from the get y'all have my back. 632 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 6: So I couldn't appreciate y'all anymore. Couldn't have did that 633 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 6: without y'all today. And glad we go out there and 634 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 6: get a. 635 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: Good That is Tyson Bagent from the Bears locker room, 636 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: the rookie Division two quarterback and coach. What do you 637 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: see when you see a guy come in from the 638 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: background that Tyson has and maybe some of these other 639 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 2: young quarterbacks that are having early success, there's something that's 640 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: a parallel in your mind, and that's reps starts. How 641 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: much is that weighing into early success in young quarterbacks? 642 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 9: No question about it. For me, it's first and foremost ability. 643 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 9: You have to have the ability, but then the number 644 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 9: of reps and production with those reps. Right when you 645 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 9: can see that and this guy, I mean, what do 646 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 9: you throw for a ton of yards, a ton of touchdowns, 647 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 9: had a ton ton of plays, He made mistakes, he. 648 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 8: Learned from him. 649 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 9: He's seen every he's seen every coverage and now to 650 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 9: come in as a young guy. And I went back 651 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 9: to my head coach, Chechlist. Okay, you're starting a first 652 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 9: time starter, maybe a guy from a small school. First 653 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 9: and foremost, you put the pressure on the defense. We 654 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 9: can't have the score get out of whack. We got 655 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 9: to play great defense, and they play great defense. Second 656 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 9: of all, you put the pressure on the offensive line. Hey, 657 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 9: we got to be able to run the ball to 658 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 9: take the pressure off the quarterback so we can play 659 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 9: the play the game in second and five and third. 660 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 9: Put the pre pass catchers, Hey, we're running backs, make 661 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 9: plays for this guy. Don't put the game on his hands. 662 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 9: Let's put the game on your hands. And you saw 663 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 9: that happen. So now you go back and you watch 664 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 9: the game like I did again last night. And this 665 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 9: young man was playing in rhythm. He was quick, he 666 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 9: was athletic, he was smart. But even more than that, 667 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 9: you saw him get in and out of the huddle. 668 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 9: There were no delay of game penalties. You saw him 669 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 9: do the ball handing like the fly sweep. The backup 670 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 9: quarterback he gets no reps in the NFL. Right, the 671 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 9: backup quarterck gets no reps in the NFL. And this 672 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 9: guy handled the huddle. He handled all the motions, all 673 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 9: the all the fly sweeps, handled all that stuff really well. 674 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 8: And then what did he do. 675 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 9: He used all that experience from college, no matter what level, 676 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 9: all that experience. He went from one to two to 677 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 9: check down like his first play, his first pass play, 678 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 9: one to two, check down. The balls quick, it was athletic, 679 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 9: it was out of his hands. The bolts dropped, but 680 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 9: at the same time he got the ball out of 681 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 9: his hands. And then he saw him move the pocket, 682 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 9: He saw him escape the pockets. So that pocket awareness, that 683 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 9: pocket field, and the athletic ability to get out still 684 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 9: make plays down the field. I think he threw four 685 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 9: or five balls on the run yesterday. Yeah, and their 686 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 9: beautiful pass is perfectly thrown. So he's got the accuracy, 687 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 9: he's got the feel. And his teammates came up and 688 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 9: played big for them as well. 689 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know this is gonna be interesting to 690 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: me now to see how evaluators look at guys like Bage, 691 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: like brock Purty. Right, you've had that experience, you've had 692 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: success at whatever level that they play at. Right, and 693 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: see where they draft him and how soon how comfortable 694 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: they feel because the Bears feel comfortable enough to make 695 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: him their number two quarterback and to start him in 696 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: a circumstance like this. But then there's also the quarterback 697 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: with experience at the big programs, like we're seeing c J. 698 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: Stroud do his thing. 699 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: When you look at somebody who has all of the 700 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: check marks you said, but also plays in front of 701 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: eighty thousand, there, James, he's a Buckeye coach. 702 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: You know. When you see CJ. 703 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: Stroud in the success he's having this. 704 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: Year with the things you just talked about, how do 705 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: you think that translates to the NFL game. 706 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, you look all of those front end of the draft, 707 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 9: you want the guys that are proven right, you want 708 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 9: to see the ability. You want to see them playing 709 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 9: big games and non national TV and not falter, and 710 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 9: that gives them a step above. And then later in 711 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 9: the draft you're looking for production. You're looking for something 712 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 9: that stands out. You're looking for speeds, size, length, or 713 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 9: production down in the draft. So that's a tough balance, 714 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 9: you know, where you don't look at a brock Purge 715 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 9: and say, oh, we should have taken him earlier. Now 716 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 9: it makes sense, it makes sense why he was taken later. 717 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 9: You know, it makes sense why pageant pagent like everyone 718 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 9: was this past week, was looking at how to pronounce 719 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 9: his name, like, who's this guy, where's he from? 720 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 8: How do we pronounce his name? 721 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 10: Right? 722 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 9: So you understand why, But you also those personnel departments 723 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 9: they're looking for these nuggets. Here's the guy that was really, 724 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 9: really successful. And maybe he didn't have all the stature 725 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 9: and all the hype that these other guys have, but 726 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 9: they show something that looks like he can translate. And 727 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 9: that's why you pick a guy like this. And it's 728 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 9: great to see him come out there and play well, 729 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 9: and even even in front of the whole team, right, 730 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 9: he didn't sutter. He's out, thank you all, and he 731 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 9: talks with a little bit of a drawer. The guy's 732 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 9: love you know that Comphy's comfortable in his own skin 733 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 9: and called upon next week, is going to want ball 734 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 9: again next week. That's just who he is and what 735 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 9: he's done. But as much as anything, though, the defense 736 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 9: kept the score. You know, they played with the league 737 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 9: most of the game. The defense didn't let it get 738 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 9: out of whack. And that's the tough part for a 739 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 9: young guy that's coming in now. Oh my gosh, first 740 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 9: first half next year. Next week is going to be 741 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 9: down fourteen. Do we have to bring him back? 742 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 8: That's the next stage. 743 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 9: But for a guy to come in, be efficient, run 744 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 9: the show, make the passes, make the checks. He checked 745 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 9: all the boxes this past week, and proud of that, 746 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 9: young man. 747 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: Coach. I have one more real quick on these young quarterbacks. 748 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: And you mentioned it earlier in terms of pocket awareness 749 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: and feel inside the pocket. We've seen Kenny Pickett maybe 750 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: struggle with this a little bit in his young career. 751 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: In your mind with these guys that have played a 752 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: lot of snaps at the collegiate level when they come 753 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: into the NFL, is that something that you just have 754 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: from reps or you just have it as an innate ability. 755 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: Developing it at the NFL level is that tougher than 756 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: if you didn't establish it at the collegiate level. 757 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: Because so much is played off script. 758 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 9: And this is not an open cop it's much better 759 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 9: to find it than to train it right. You want 760 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 9: to look for it when you're watching films. Want to 761 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 9: see this guy have a feel. I'll go back to this. 762 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 9: When I became a coach, the guy I would meet 763 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 9: with every off season was my old coach Bill Walsh, Right, 764 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 9: the master, the genius, and Bill would quiz me like, 765 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 9: what are you looking for at quarterbacks and give him 766 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 9: this long list. All those are secondary to instincts. Right, 767 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 9: All those things you wrote down there all great secondary. 768 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 9: The guy has to have a he has to have instincts, 769 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 9: and it's hard to measure it. But that's what you're 770 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 9: looking for in my quarterback checklist I used to have 771 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 9: when I was with the Baltimore Ravens and Oakland Raiders 772 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 9: and I was in the NFL. That was one of 773 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 9: those things, like pocket feel. I want to see him 774 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 9: operate in a clean pocket? Does he still get the 775 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 9: ball out on time? Operate in a dirty pocket? Can 776 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 9: he find the quiet spot? Can he push up and 777 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 9: keep his eyes down the field? Does he run too early? 778 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 9: Does he bail too early? Will he stand in there? 779 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 8: Will he stand in there and take a hit to 780 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 8: throw to make the big throw? 781 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 9: Or will he push up in the pocket and get 782 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 9: us five yards and get down and protect himself. 783 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 8: So those are things that you're looking for. 784 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 9: And watching the game with the Bears just yesterday, I 785 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 9: was outstanding to see this young man push up in 786 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 9: the pocket, keep his eyes down field, make a couple 787 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 9: of plays, escape the pocket to the outside, keeping the 788 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 9: ball in a throwing position, and get get rid of 789 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 9: the ball and throwing a great location where he was 790 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 9: safe for only our guy gets it, then the other 791 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 9: team doesn't have a chance. And then when it's time 792 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 9: to run, get as much as you can and get 793 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 9: down and protect yourself so you can play the next play. So, 794 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 9: like I said, he did everything that you needed to. 795 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 9: And we saw what Bill Walsh would say, instincts and feel. 796 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 9: We saw that when he played yesterday. 797 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: Coach David Shaw, I mean this is why we have 798 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: to have you back on the show. I mean, you 799 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: just dropped so much knowledge. You're gonna help our listeners 800 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: and viewers out so much. Thank you so much. One 801 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: last thing, though, you have to require of any quarterback 802 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: you get in the future, like Tyson Badget, you have 803 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: to cock your hat to the side when you do 804 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: your postgame interview like he did with Laura Oakmans name Shaw. 805 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 806 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: And when we come back here at the NFL Report, 807 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Jeff Shadeah with his first read column 808 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: and more. 809 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: Back in the NFL Report. James, We're now joined by 810 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: Jeff Chiedea. 811 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: Who every Monday joined us with his NFL dot Com 812 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: First Read column. 813 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 3: Jeff, before we get to you, we gotta, we gotta 814 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: for your column. 815 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: We just learned that the Philadelphia Eagles have acquired in 816 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: a trade Tennessee Titans safety Kevin Byard, one of the 817 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: best safeties in the NFL over the past six or 818 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: seven seasons. What about Howie Rose has been making this 819 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: type of move at this juncture of the season. 820 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 6: Hey, strong move. 821 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 11: I guess he's not slowing down in uh, after all 822 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 11: the moves he made last year. And you know it 823 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 11: was crazy about this move is that when I saw 824 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 11: the Eagles play the Rams a couple of weeks ago, 825 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 11: talking to some people in their front office, they were 826 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 11: really concerned about that secondary, how it was playing. 827 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 6: You know, they know Brad Berry and Darius Lay at 828 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 6: corner or. 829 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 11: Solid, but losing Avonte Maddix was a big hit, and 830 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 11: they everybody talked about how much they missed CJ. Gardner 831 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 11: Johnson at safety and so going out and getting a 832 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 11: guy like Bayered, who what to me is a top 833 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 11: three safety in this league, certainly a ballhawk, a great tackler, 834 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 11: a guy who can Blitz who can do a number 835 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 11: of things for you. Rich get Richard Man. It's a 836 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 11: great move for the Eagles. 837 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was also talk that there was another safety 838 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: that was potentially available in Justin Simmons that knows this 839 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: system his time in Denver with this Seawn de Side 840 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: type system, that he would have been a fit. But 841 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: they go and get Kevin Byern and I think go 842 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: back to two weeks ago, guys, when they finished that 843 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 2: loss against the Jets with let me put my pen down, 844 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: one starter in their secondary still on the field at 845 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: the end of that game. That's how many injuries they 846 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: sustained in their second with guys that had gone down. 847 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: And remember they have a young safety duel and Reid 848 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: Blank and Ship who was an undrafted guy if I'm 849 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: recalling that correctly, who's really worked his way up, and 850 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 2: they like a lot Sidney Brown's played back there. Remember 851 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: they went and got Bradley Roby as a nickel just 852 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. 853 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 4: That shows you where things were looking in this secondary. 854 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: And now to get a player of that caliber that 855 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: has the ability Steve to be a ballhawk that has 856 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: had a number of interceptions over his career, some of 857 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 2: the most among pretty much all players. I think since 858 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: twenty seventeens, Amiry Howard might be the only one with more. 859 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: And then you pair him with the defensive front that 860 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: they have in Philadelphia. 861 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 862 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, when you think about the Eagles and Titans 863 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: making a trade, I think the last one really worked 864 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: out from Philly. That'd being aj Brown coming over real 865 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: quick job. Yeah, whatt did just tell you that Ran Carthon, 866 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: the general manager, and the Titans are doing If they're 867 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: selling off somebody like Kevin Bayard. 868 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 11: Correct sale is coming, you know. You guys see Ryan 869 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 11: Tannehill's pinal leaving town. Nobody's bolted down right now, except 870 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 11: for maybe Jeffrey Simmons everybody else in there. They got 871 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 11: to start restocking the shelves, man, I mean AFC. To 872 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 11: compete in the AFC with what they have, they need 873 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 11: a little more on that roster. So I understand exactly 874 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 11: what he's trying to do. 875 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to your column a little bit, Jeff. 876 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: You're talking about most trustworthy teams as we're through seven weeks, 877 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: and I'm fascinated by the team that you have as 878 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: the I believe fourth most trusted team that got their 879 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: doors blown off this past Sunday. You are very confident 880 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: in the Detroit Lions. Tell me this. 881 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 6: I don't take one loss too seriously at any point 882 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 6: in the season. 883 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 11: And this was just one of those games where the 884 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 11: Baltimore Ravens were on their A game and the lines 885 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 11: were on their F game, and it happened sometimes they 886 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 11: got caught off guard. But you look at the way 887 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 11: the Lions played football. I very much trust the way 888 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,959 Speaker 11: they're built. Strong defensive line, strong offensive line. Jery Goff 889 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 11: have been playing like an MVP quarterback. 890 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 6: You know. 891 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 11: For me, what was more surprisingly in this game is 892 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 11: we finally got to see what Baltimore could be with 893 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 11: that new Liak offense. And I think everybody was gonna 894 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 11: wait and see that was gonna happen. It just happened 895 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 11: at the wrong time for the Lions. So I still 896 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 11: think if I'm looking for team to trust, and I 897 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 11: only pick three NFC team now, so after San Francisco 898 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 11: and Philadelphia, I love what the Lions are doing, and 899 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 11: their schedule for the next five weeks is very easy. 900 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 11: I think they should be sitting at ten to two 901 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 11: by the time that's all said and done. 902 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're in their division. They're running away with 903 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: a division as well. And by the way, the Ravens 904 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: are one of the teams you have on your list 905 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: as a team you trust. 906 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: Here's one that I'm interested in, though, is. 907 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills because we have seen them really, I mean, 908 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: they really seem like they're in a weird spot right now. 909 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we know how talented they are, but going 910 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: through the season, knowing that Miami is right there in 911 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: their division, you still have them as a team you trust, 912 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: but they seem like they're skimming the skimming the surface 913 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: of the water right now. 914 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 11: Well, I think they're too talented for one and I 915 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 11: believe in von Miller comes back in the mix that 916 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 11: default will get a huge boost. But really, I also 917 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 11: feel as if we've seen Buffalo go through so many 918 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 11: stretches like this over the last few years. You go 919 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 11: back to twenty twenty one and they were playing weird 920 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 11: football and got hot towards Dan and wound up playing 921 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 11: that you know, that iconic game against the Chiefs, and 922 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 11: the playoffs and last seasons, Shallen gets banged up, They 923 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 11: got these injuries and they find a way to get 924 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 11: it going. I just felt that some teams function well 925 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 11: with this function, and they're one of those teams that 926 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 11: when they start figuring things out, they can get pretty 927 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 11: good pretty fast. So I still feel like they're the 928 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 11: best team in the AFC. We've seen how they measure 929 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 11: up against the Dolphins, and that tells me that they 930 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 11: can easily win that division. 931 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 6: Again. Wow, and the. 932 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: Two big injuries on defense don't face Jeff Shedea what 933 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: I was curious about again? 934 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, I mean Mon was really really good. 935 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 2: How about the Cincinnati Bengals at number five? And you 936 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 2: are convinced at number five on your trusto meter, I'll 937 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 2: call it Jeff gidia because what I'm looking at is, 938 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: I I don't know if the sample size of this 939 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: offense clicking is very big yet. And then I look 940 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: at what they have next on their schedule. They go 941 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: to Santa Clara, They're at home against the Bills, Texans, 942 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 2: Raven Steelers, Jags. 943 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 4: I think we're going to get a chance to. 944 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: I think in a couple of weeks really rip the 945 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 2: shreds your confidence or you're you're exactly right after weeks out. 946 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 11: Well, I understand the concerns here, but really, I feel 947 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 11: like the AFC is coming back to the Bengals, the 948 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 11: way the Dolphins got beat up, the way the Bills 949 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 11: are spreading. Chargers are pretty much out of it at 950 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 11: this stage, and we have to assume that they're not 951 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 11: going to be a playoff team at Also, I'm really 952 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 11: confident of the Bengals getting a wildcard spot just based 953 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 11: off that. And so you look at that, and again, 954 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 11: just as with Buffalo, they're one of these teams where 955 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 11: the more they get their backs up against the wall, 956 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 11: the better they seem to play. So it would not 957 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 11: spy me at all if the defensively. 958 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: He exactly, Bengal's a wildcard spot. So that brings us 959 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: to our next team that you trust. I already mentioned 960 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens, but the Cleveland Browns you trust them. And 961 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: here's the thing we saw yesterday. They found a way 962 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: to win with PJ. 963 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 8: Walker. 964 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: No concerns about when Deshaun Watson comes back. Is that 965 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna be disruptive or do you think they're gonna play 966 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: better with him in the lineup. 967 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 11: I feel like they've defined themselves already as a defense 968 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 11: first team that year, and no matter what they end 969 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 11: up doing, and they're getting Jerome Ford going in the 970 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 11: run game, Kareem Hunts making contributions. 971 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 6: I feel like they're going back to the old. 972 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 11: Playbook Keemi Stefanski ran a few years ago with Baker 973 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 11: Mayfield and just saying, let's let's take care of the football, 974 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 11: make a few big plays when we can, but let's 975 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 11: make sure that we're playing sound football and playing to 976 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 11: this defense. And when you got Miles Garrett, he's the 977 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 11: most viable player on that team, playing the way he's playing. 978 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 11: I like their potential. And again I'll go on to 979 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 11: Limb right now and start calling my playoff teams because 980 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 11: I see seven sound ones in the AFC. And like 981 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 11: I said, the Charters bang out. Not sure about Pittsburgh. 982 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 11: You know the Jets, you know, and they got Pittsburgh Patrick, 983 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 11: why not the Steelers? 984 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 8: Why not? 985 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,439 Speaker 3: The Steelers are fourn too. 986 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 11: It's the offense, That's what they didn't make the list 987 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 11: because of the offense. I just don't know what I'm 988 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 11: gonna get them now. 989 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 4: We got situation is in Cleveland. 990 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 6: Only so many teams can make it. 991 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 4: Guys. 992 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 11: If I'm good point, yeah, I mean they're playing better 993 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 11: defense than the Steelers are, right now and their offense 994 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 11: is in Cleveland, It's still got more potential than what 995 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 11: the Steelers have. So yeah, I mean it's the teams 996 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 11: that were tough to leave off Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Seattle. I 997 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 11: just don't feel as if they've shown me enough to 998 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 11: where I could say, Okay, this team in January Sowen 999 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 11: playing consistent football. And really it's the AFC North is 1000 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 11: so stocked right now you have to eliminate somebody, and 1001 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 11: unfortunately right now it's the team with the best head coach. 1002 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 5: Right. 1003 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 3: But you're you're, you're your JB Jeff's MVP watch. 1004 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 1: Was he Lamar Jackson making a stronger push this week, 1005 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: as he should. 1006 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 3: But my guy Miles Garrett on the list, I love it. 1007 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a defensive guy. Defensive guy, You're a 1008 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 3: defensive guy. 1009 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: Explain, explain well. One. 1010 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 11: I got a little bit of boost from my boss 1011 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 11: Ali Vompuri, who's like, you gotta put Miles Garrett in there. 1012 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 11: I said, you know, you're right, You're You know how 1013 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 11: hard is to put together this list every week? Now, 1014 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 11: It's hard to find five guys every week that you 1015 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 11: can say are playing at an MVP level. 1016 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 6: Even Patrick Mahomes at the top of the list. He 1017 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 6: hasn't had his MVP typical. 1018 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 11: Season, but he's had enough good games to where you say, okay, 1019 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 11: you're you're in there. But I imagine that at the end 1020 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 11: of the day you'll see Josh Allen and Joe Burrow, 1021 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 11: some of those usual names emerged. But yeah, but right now, 1022 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 11: Miles Garrett deserves it being there. The way he played 1023 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 11: in that game, and I was like watching I thought 1024 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 11: I was watching like some alien movie or King Colin, 1025 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 11: just like running through people. It was just he was impossible. 1026 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 11: It was like a whole different species out there running around. 1027 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 4: A different species. No they don't, No, they don't watch 1028 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 4: him go dunkle basketball. It's incredible. 1029 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 2: Listen, it's been ten consecutive years where a quarterback has 1030 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: won the MVP Award. I love that you put somebody 1031 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: that wasn't a quarterback on the list, which got Steve 1032 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: and I thinking a little bit. I'm gonna pick somebody 1033 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: that I want to see on your list maybe in 1034 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, and I'm gonna go Tyreek Hill. 1035 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 4: If he is still on pace right. 1036 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: Now to go over two thousand yards, I would think 1037 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: he has to be in the conversation if that happens, 1038 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 2: If the Dolphins are a first or second. 1039 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: Seed by the end of the season, and he has this. 1040 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 2: Team taking a turn, which we've seen for the two 1041 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 2: years that he has been there. To Waey, he's almost 1042 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: flipped that organization. To me, guys, I look at Tyreek 1043 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: Kill and go You mentioned physical specimens, people that are 1044 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 2: just built unlike anybody else. When you mentioned Miles Garrett, 1045 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: you could say the same thing about Tyreek Hill. Like 1046 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm looking at let's put every receiver against the ben's 1047 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: defensive back in football. I think Tyreek Hill wins more 1048 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 2: than maybe any receiver out there. If you were to 1049 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 2: go Mono Weemano the same way, probably Miles Garrett would 1050 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,720 Speaker 2: win against the best tackles. 1051 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 4: One by one, Mono Weemano and matchups. 1052 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 2: I just think if you're looking at somebody that is 1053 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 2: more unique than anybody else in football, and you have 1054 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: to spend your week, Steve planning for maybe more than 1055 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 2: anybody else, Tyreek Hill should maybe be in the conversation. 1056 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I think you're totally right about that. 1057 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 11: But you look at the way he's impacted the quarterback, 1058 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 11: especially and when Tyrek Hill was in Kansas City, and 1059 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 11: James has been here a lot and I watched him 1060 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 11: a lot. It's just he always thought, is it more 1061 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 11: my home? 1062 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 6: Is it more him? 1063 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 11: Kind of like with Tom Brady and Bo Belichick and 1064 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 11: Tyrek Hill just changes everything. 1065 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 6: And it's amazing to me that he can produce the 1066 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 6: way he produces. 1067 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 11: At his size every week with people knowing he has 1068 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 11: to get the football it is. The guy wasn't even 1069 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 11: receiver when he came into football. I mean what he's 1070 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 11: become is is the ultimate weapon. 1071 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 4: Speed. You're Jalen Ramsey, Yeah. 1072 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 3: Speed, He's got to be. 1073 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Deinia once again, fantastic job read Jeff's common NFL 1074 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: dot Com slash first read. And when we come back, 1075 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: we've got some outstanding post game podium moments from Week seven. 1076 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 3: Don't blink here at the NFL. 1077 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 10: Report First and nine. Every down, you know, every first 1078 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 10: down is first and nine. Knowing that if you get 1079 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 10: the fourth, fourth and one, shoot a lot of faith 1080 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 10: in that play because you've seen it, right, You've seen 1081 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 10: it across the league that people can't do it like 1082 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 10: we can do it. They can't do it like we 1083 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 10: can do it. And uh, and so I'm making my 1084 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 10: plug right there, like, don't don't ban this play Like 1085 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 10: if everyone could do it, everybody would where's the camera? 1086 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 8: If everybody could do it, everybody would do. 1087 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: It, Steve, that's Nick Sirianni, the Eagles head coach, or 1088 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: he could be essentially one of my friends at the 1089 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 2: corner are in South Philly, because that's exactly who he 1090 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: looks like is every single guy in Philadelphia. I don't 1091 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: know if there's a head coach that resembles the city 1092 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: that they coach in more than Nick Sirianni. 1093 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 4: I think he almost embraces who he is. He embraces 1094 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 4: that other teams don't care for him sometimes. 1095 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 2: And I think first and nine is going to be 1096 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 2: on a lot of T shirts as I brought up 1097 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: South Philadelphia, on a lot of T shirts on those 1098 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: streets right outside Lincoln Financial Field. He is honestly everything 1099 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: that city embodies. They love when outside cities hate them, 1100 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: and Nick Sirianni embraces that. 1101 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 4: And that clip right there was exactly what you've seen. 1102 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 2: If somebody from Channel six is standing talking to a 1103 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 2: street walker after a video after a series of games 1104 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 2: down in South Philadelphia, whether it's a Phillies game or 1105 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: an Eagles game. 1106 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 3: Bro, I know what to say right there talking to 1107 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 3: a street walker. 1108 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: You mean somebody walking down the street. James will rephrase 1109 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: your rev We were phrase your birthplay well, talking about 1110 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: somebody who represents a city, even though he is from 1111 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: the seven to five seven, from the Tidewater area of Virginia. 1112 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: That's Mike Tomlin who after the game yesterday against the 1113 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: Rams and the Steelers beat the Rams, his team had 1114 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: a couple of personal file taunting penalties things like that 1115 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: that put it in bad position. And when he was 1116 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: asked about this during his post game he said, well, 1117 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: we don't like it, but I would much rather have 1118 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: to tell them WHOA than sick them. In other words, 1119 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 1: I would rather ask for forgiveness than permission quickly, JP. 1120 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: We also found out that the Dolphins are going to 1121 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: be doing an nd season hard Knocks on HBO. They're 1122 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: rolling right now. You just talked about Tyreek Hill. We're 1123 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: talking about coaches. You think Mike McDaniel might have some 1124 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,439 Speaker 1: great moments in there. 1125 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: We're pushing that Mike McDaniel button over and over again 1126 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 2: with the league. Man, it is just solid gold and 1127 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 2: keep going to that well as frequently as you can. 1128 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel is pure old, whether they win, whether they lose, 1129 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 2: and now I can't wait to see him day in 1130 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 2: and day out. 1131 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 4: During the week. This has been the NFL Report on 1132 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 4: a Monday. We have a. 1133 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 2: Monster show just hinting at it on Thursday. Coming up 1134 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: this week. Steve White, James Palmer for the NFL Report