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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we haven't lost a game

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, trying to keep that streak going.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here on stage five. If you're watching

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Speaker 1: us on YouTube, Cynthia Freeland and I'm making our weekly

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Speaker 1: picks against the spread, but on the set of Game Deview,

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Speaker 1: where she's picked a lot of games correct over the

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Speaker 1: last few years.

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Speaker 2: But yes, she is.

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Speaker 1: Six and oh picking games against the spread over the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks. Are you going to bring that hot

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, absolutely. Who would want to lose their heater?

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Speaker 3: No one ever.

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Speaker 1: We are also going to talk about the firing of

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, because get you a podcast that can do both.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate everyone checking in every week to go with

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Speaker 1: our picks, but let's do.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a news at the end of

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Speaker 2: the show. Perfect too.

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Speaker 1: But yes, after that six and oh streak for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, Cynthia Freeland's numbers are getting better

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Speaker 1: over the course of the season. I also so went

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Speaker 1: three and zero last week, so I bounced back after

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Speaker 1: my first lost out nineteen. So if you're following us,

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Speaker 1: you are doing well and This is where I have

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Speaker 1: gone sideways in the last few years, because there's just

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Speaker 1: less games to pick from, so there's less odds that

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Speaker 1: you have one that you really feel like is a

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Speaker 1: great number. But I do feel good about my playoff picks.

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Speaker 1: I wrote down four games four out, but I'm only

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Speaker 1: going to make three official picks. You get the first

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Speaker 1: overall pick here, and we can have the same.

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Speaker 2: Picks if we really want. But why don't you go first?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to start with the game I'm

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Speaker 3: second most confident with in terms of who the winner is.

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Speaker 3: I think that the New England Patriots. They win by

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Speaker 3: at least three and a half points, so at least

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Speaker 3: four points. I love that the Patriots are getting back

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Speaker 3: integral pieces in Milton Williams and Will Campbell, and I

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Speaker 3: just don't trust or have faith in the Chargers O line.

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Speaker 4: For good reason.

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert's been under all of the pressure, been hit

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Speaker 3: more than any other quarterback. We've detailed this at nauseum.

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Speaker 3: It's not great for Justin Herbert in terms of what

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Speaker 3: the situation is. This is a Mike Vrabel defense that

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Speaker 3: has the principles that I think they get Robert Spaaine

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Speaker 4: Do under a lot of pressure, meeting quick passes.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at this one and I'm just thinking,

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Speaker 3: I think the Pats easily win this one.

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Speaker 1: The injury report has been great for the Patriots. They're

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Speaker 1: getting Splaine back, most likely at linebacker, which is a

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Speaker 3: The stopping the run. Spolaine is so good stopping the run.

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Speaker 1: And even compared to their other linebackers and passes over

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Speaker 1: the middle, which Herbert is great at. Look, they get

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Milton Williams, will Campbell, and it is the

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's the the Harbaugh and the fan. I'm afraid

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Speaker 4: Of both of these teams, so I have a hard time.

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Speaker 1: I am more of a fan of the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid of this Chargers team.

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Speaker 2: They also have a good injury in.

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Speaker 1: Their left tackle, Jamari Sawyer, who I know he was

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks of the season. He is expected

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Speaker 1: to be back, But I'm glad you're taking that. That

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Speaker 1: would not be one of my more confident picks. That

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Speaker 1: to me was maybe the I think that's your heart

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Speaker 1: talking that. Maybe that was my toughest pick of the week.

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Speaker 1: I think the one that just felt clearest to me,

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Speaker 1: And it's how I've done well on these against.

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Speaker 2: The spread picks all year. It was a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five and nineteen was just off of I think

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Speaker 1: picking a winner. I think the Green Bay Packers are

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Speaker 1: vibes what worries me are a little off in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: They've lost what four straight games here.

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Speaker 3: They weren't really trying. Weren't trying the late tune experiment

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Speaker 1: They found ways to lose games that they should have won,

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Speaker 2: But I think you are okay.

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Speaker 3: It took an on side kick, Yes, it took over time.

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Speaker 3: It took Malik Willis. I mean, he played well, but

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Speaker 3: it's still not Jordan Love.

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Speaker 4: That took like that was like a comedy of errors.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, I landed on the fact that I just believe

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Speaker 1: That Jordan Love when he is not pressured, is basically

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Speaker 1: I guess with the Packers, and I feel good about them.

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Speaker 1: I think Lafleur is a rare coach that can kind

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Speaker 1: of match Ben Johnson. To me, the coaching matchup in

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Speaker 2: Okay, where do you think about the coaches?

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to remember that there's two sides of

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Speaker 3: the ball, right, So while I know Ben Johnson he's

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Speaker 3: technically responsible for the defense, I don't think he's really

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Speaker 3: good job. Has he done better than Jeff Hafley.

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Speaker 2: You know it has been great.

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Speaker 3: Quietly, they've still used simulated pressures. That's how he manufactures

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Speaker 3: You just don't know other quarterback has more than three

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Speaker 1: Look, my head is all about the Packers, and my

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Speaker 2: That's for this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just think they're a better team, and

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Speaker 1: I think the Green Bay Packers win. So that is

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Speaker 1: my first pick. I know you agreed you can take

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Speaker 1: that as one of your picks. Do you want to

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Speaker 4: Well, my second I'll decide if it might be my

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Speaker 3: My second pick, I think the Bills cover the one

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Speaker 3: point spread in Jacksonville. I understand that's going to be

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Speaker 3: a very I think it's going to be a very

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Speaker 3: trendy pick to pick the Jags. They're on a heater.

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Speaker 3: They've won eight straight. This is their ninth, this would

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Speaker 3: be their ninth. I know what happened in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I watched that game. I remember it. But this is

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Speaker 3: a totally different team. That was a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the opportunity in this one for Josh

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Speaker 4: He's looking at the entire picture.

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Speaker 3: He's saying, there is no Patrick Mahomes, there is no

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Speaker 3: usual foes are not there. This has to beat it.

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Speaker 3: And yes, he didn't play more than one snap last week. Understood,

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Speaker 3: But when you're looking at what are the different opportunities.

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Speaker 3: What is going to go on the defense. We talk

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Speaker 3: worst against the run. However they are best against the

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Speaker 4: And I think that, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I still think that there are ways to beat this

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Speaker 4: Some of their pass catchers.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not again, this one is mostly like a

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen pick. You know that he is by far

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Speaker 3: and away the best quarterback in this matchup, and that

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Speaker 2: You are convincing me.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the people will tell you the

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen stat that like on the road, he's zero

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Speaker 4: Three of those were at arrowhead.

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Speaker 1: Right, and one of them was one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: I will be convinced until.

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Speaker 1: The day I die that the Bills would have won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl if they had won that coin flip.

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Speaker 2: That the winner of that game.

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Speaker 1: Seen a quarterback play any better than that, which is

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Speaker 1: why you've scared me off of the Jags. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: I had to pick all six games, I still would

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Speaker 1: take the Jags plus one and a half. Sure, I

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Speaker 1: Jags out of it. One of the things Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: Me about the Jags. Kind of like this Jags team.

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Speaker 2: I would like them too.

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Speaker 4: I would like forever all of the teams to win,

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Speaker 1: Think they're a great team. I think the winner of

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Speaker 1: this game has a real chance to make.

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Speaker 2: The super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But Josh Allen talked about that that week off and

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Speaker 1: all the preparation they've been getting ready for the playoffs

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Speaker 1: now for a week and a half, and how Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen went over all the tape with Joe Brady, his

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Speaker 1: to play hero ball too much, trying to do too much.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of easy move the chain's receptions

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Speaker 1: that I just haven't been taking because I've sort of

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Speaker 1: felt this pressure to be Superman, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: start taking those And for some reason, the experience that

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has and just his level of talent. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, like in the playoffs he runs even more.

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Speaker 1: He has the highest success rate of any runner in

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Speaker 1: the He ever is the most yards in the history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL running back or quarterback. He is like

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Speaker 1: him running the balls most successful. In hearing that, I

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Speaker 3: So here's my You know what's funny, So run a pod.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, We're just just between us here on Game

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Speaker 3: deay view. You showed your your argument was about Sean

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Speaker 3: McDermott for something, and I saw you show it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and yet you picked the Jags.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that that? Are you like jinxing it?

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Speaker 3: there that could possibly I mean, I think that's how

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Speaker 2: For sure. You've been someone that I.

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Speaker 3: Haven't asked anyone that's not inside of This is just

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Speaker 4: You have Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: You know this is like, this is your best chance

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Speaker 1: I agree with you when I've put that out there,

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Speaker 1: But it is crazy that a week ago all the

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Speaker 2: It might be like three, four or five teams max.

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Speaker 1: We're at eight now because of McDaniel, and it could

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then Sean McDermott in your case, and I mom

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Speaker 2: You should do some research and ask there's no way

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Speaker 2: Terry Pugill was going to do that. You don't know

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Speaker 2: anything about Terry Pogoola. He would never do that. So

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Speaker 2: mcdermoy loves it. I don't know. I think it could happen.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who like Bill's fan was I love

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Speaker 3: I look, I'm not suggesting that it's something he wants

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Speaker 4: It depends on how it looks like. It depends on

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Speaker 3: And what really you know he loves more is Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen and Josh Allen's far more you know, irreplaces.

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Speaker 2: It set off some alarm bells for me. I thought.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott took a little couple shots maybe at Brandon

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Speaker 4: My shots fire.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like something's going on there. So actually

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Speaker 1: I feel good that I'm getting off of the Jags away,

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Speaker 1: that's your second pick, Bills. You took the Pats, I

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Speaker 1: have the Packers. I'll go with a boring pick. This

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Speaker 2: It might not be.

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Speaker 1: I will take the Rams minus ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned on game they view how what There's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy two games this year, so there's been five

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Speaker 1: game is number one out of those five hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty four in terms of success rate on the ground.

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Speaker 1: When they played the Carolina Panthers, they were in a

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Speaker 1: I think this is just like the perfect matchup for

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. You run the ball to me. The over

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Speaker 1: under team total is about thirty five for the Rams offense.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the Panthers can keep up in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to hop on that one with you.

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Speaker 3: It's rare that my model picks like a cover in

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Speaker 3: a situation with a double digit playoff game. So when

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Speaker 3: it does, I have an eleven point win, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to go with it because I'm typically a little more conservative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wrote down all these numbers, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: like number two in pressure rate, number two like against pressure.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the Rams are like, when they're not pressure,

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Speaker 3: Yeah when Bryce was like a missmass Yeah, the interesting

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Speaker 3: is a fun note you can find somewhere where Tommy

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Speaker 3: Tremble just needs to catch two passes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. You like a little Tommy Tremble.

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Speaker 4: So random, but I love it.

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Speaker 3: Side Yeah, pressure him, what's going to happen you throw

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing with this game. Just don't think that

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Speaker 1: it's the playoffs. Just imagine it's week twelve and that

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Speaker 1: the Rams and I know they lost to the Panthers, but.

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Speaker 4: That was week thirteen. They're totally different.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine they're playing the Commanders or Washington or the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Because those four teams were the close. The three teams

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Speaker 1: I know they're in the playoffs, but that's the company

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Speaker 1: Carolina was keeping. Like the Commanders Miami.

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Speaker 4: They didn't even win half their game.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the level. Like even then, they're worse than

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Speaker 1: an eight and nine team. I'm sorry, Panthers, I.

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Speaker 3: Know we're not being I mean it sounds better and

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Speaker 3: not really. All right, they still made the playoffs. Those

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Speaker 1: All right, you have your three picks, they're locked in.

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Speaker 1: You have the Bills as a one or one and

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Speaker 1: a half point favorite, no matter, as a three and

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Speaker 2: I took the Packers.

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Speaker 1: I took the Rams, and I need a third pick,

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Speaker 1: and so I feel good about taking the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of voodoo here. It's Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: It's this ridiculous home Monday night football winning streak, which

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Speaker 1: just because there is something about the Steelers that is

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Speaker 1: and it's a faulty Texans offense.

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Speaker 2: But what have we been talking about all season? Book defense?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm going to put four to five

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Speaker 1: Texans on my first or second team All Pro list

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Speaker 1: on defense, between Anderson and Hunter and al Shaier and

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Speaker 1: Jalen's one of my.

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Speaker 3: Favorite names to these, I'll share here. Azise I'll share here.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if Kamari Lassiter is going to play

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Speaker 2: That worry me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't worry me. I don't say he doesn't worry. But

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Speaker 3: Derek Stingley still thereat.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a man of conviction ultimately, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I've been seeing this all season, I've been saying,

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Speaker 1: it should just really be a mismatch. I think this

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Speaker 1: good pick I like it. Okay, Uh, they're the rear time.

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Speaker 3: Much to say about that, Yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Just think that Houston, look they can they could score

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Texans to cover those three points. All right,

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Speaker 1: those are our picks in terms of the spread. Feel

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Speaker 1: I feel good about it. Yeah, if you're kind of

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Speaker 2: Game to me, Like I lean Eagles.

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Speaker 3: But I don't just I'm staying away from this one

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Speaker 3: in large part because I right now, at the time

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Speaker 3: If I don't really know what's going on in the trenches,

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Speaker 3: I just don't feel good about it. Plus, I just

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Speaker 3: And there's something weird about this game. I mean, remember

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Speaker 2: Like that was unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: That was unfortunate, but something happens in this one.

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Speaker 1: It was the regular season. Using that test, I would

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Speaker 1: probably actually just take the points. But that's why it's

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Speaker 1: a stay away to me, because I don't trust this

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Speaker 2: So just stay away, forget it. No, absolutely no, let's

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Speaker 1: So since we last recorded a NFL Daily Show, Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel has been fired by the Miami Dolphins. I think

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction kind of what's your takeaway of

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Speaker 3: I think that mister Ross called is one of those

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Speaker 3: calls on John Harbaugh. Yeah, I mean because Harbaugh and

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Speaker 3: inceptioning it of it all. I think that what happened

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Speaker 3: were probably.

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Speaker 4: Central to those discussions.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure their head start with how they're thinking about

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Speaker 3: you That's just that was an odd phrase. But I'm

442
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Speaker 3: looking at that and I'm thinking he just thought what

443
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Speaker 3: he could get to make the job attractive having a

444
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Speaker 3: GM and coach come in together, and they haven't had

445
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Speaker 3: that in quite some time, because remember Chris Career had

446
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Speaker 3: been there forever before and making a decision about quarterback

447
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 3: and figuring out like to make the.

448
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Speaker 4: Job more attractive for everyone.

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Speaker 3: I just think it was kind of one of those

450
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Speaker 3: things that he was weighing his options and he thinks

451
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Speaker 3: he has a better option.

452
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Speaker 4: I think he kept Mike dangling.

453
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Speaker 3: It's like it's like when someone's dating you, you know,

454
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Speaker 3: like he found another girlfriend before he dumped the last one.

455
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Speaker 2: You know, he found a better option.

456
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Speaker 1: And it's known that John Harbaugh and Stephen Ross like

457
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Speaker 1: have a relationship. A closer relationship doesn't mean he's gonna

458
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Speaker 1: be able to close this deal. You never know, maybe

459
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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily just want.

460
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Speaker 3: To Jim Harbaugh want to like take a freaking break.

461
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Speaker 3: Bush was a president. Yeah, sorry, doesn't John Jim Harbaugh,

462
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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, I think he was a Bush was a

463
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Speaker 3: president the last time he wasn't a head coach.

464
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Speaker 4: That is a long time.

465
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Speaker 3: Like, go hang out with your kids, learned to golf,

466
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Speaker 3: hang out with your wife, go on a break.

467
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Speaker 1: I mean he's taking a case. His kids are his

468
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Speaker 1: kids are out of that.

469
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Speaker 3: I think his daughter like in near Tampa and like

470
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Speaker 3: he could go watch her soccer games or lacrosse or

471
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Speaker 3: whatever sports is, but lacrosse, I think.

472
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Speaker 4: Anyways, my point is like, well that's not happening, my

473
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Speaker 4: good man. Why are you like is his heart? Okay?

474
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Speaker 1: NFL media insider Jim Harbaugh already said it his press conference.

475
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Speaker 2: John will be coaching now.

476
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Speaker 4: I'm sure he will.

477
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Speaker 1: And that's that seems very clear. So look, we talked

478
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Speaker 1: about it at length on our show when John Harbaugh

479
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: got fired and Jordan Rodrieg laid out some really interesting

480
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Speaker 1: bread comes in terms of the GM candidates, and yeah, can.

481
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Speaker 4: Somebody do something different? Please?

482
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Speaker 2: Right?

483
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Speaker 4: I hate this coaching search.

484
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Speaker 3: I hate the lists of everyone that's interviewing for coaches.

485
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Speaker 3: I hate the list of everyone who's interviewing for GMS.

486
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Speaker 3: There's maybe fifteen percent interesting, eighty five percent.

487
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Speaker 2: What's a lot of the same. It's all garbage.

488
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Speaker 3: They're all interviewing for the same thing. It's like they

489
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Speaker 3: have a little caravan. You on the zoom call, next

490
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Speaker 3: you're in the waiting room, you on the like, I'll

491
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Speaker 3: see you in the waiting room in the Texas what

492
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Speaker 3: like and the like.

493
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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

494
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't want to go through.

495
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Speaker 1: Now there's eight vacancies and there's a lot of interviews

496
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Speaker 1: lined up.

497
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Speaker 2: I don't want to go through.

498
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Speaker 4: Like they're all the same lists, like five people.

499
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of Clint Kubiak, it's a lot of

500
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Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, it's a lot of Vans Joseph, It's a

501
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: lot of Raheem Morris.

502
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Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised. I'd love it about that.

503
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Speaker 4: I would actually think Raheem Moster was more interesting.

504
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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, Kevin Stefanski is getting at least a handful

505
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Speaker 1: of the interview.

506
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Speaker 4: Somebody tell me something.

507
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Speaker 2: New, Okay, I want to who's a new thinker?

508
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Speaker 1: I want to stay with Miami, though, because I do

509
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Speaker 1: find that fascinating that they have Chad Alexander from the

510
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: Chargers interviewing Jeff Darlington, who is very tired in Miami.

511
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Speaker 2: Yes, and.

512
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Speaker 1: I think often represents in his reporting kind of the

513
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Speaker 1: team perspective of Miami, good or bad.

514
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Speaker 2: He said that the GM job could be hired.

515
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Speaker 1: As soon as Thursday, and I just wouldn't be surprised

516
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Speaker 1: if it's setting up the most advantageous and attractive situation,

517
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Speaker 1: specifically for John Harbaugh, which would be Chad Alexander. He

518
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: worked with in Baltimore for long time, and then Alexander

519
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: went to Los Angeles, Jordan out ahead of things and

520
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: had a great interview with him on Ry Called Daily

521
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Speaker 1: and check that out from a few weeks ago.

522
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Speaker 3: By the way, I like Chad Alexander, love me be clear.

523
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Speaker 3: I think he's done a great job. I have a

524
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Speaker 3: lot of these candidates. I like them, and I think

525
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Speaker 3: they've done a great job.

526
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Speaker 4: I just don't think.

527
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Speaker 3: Anyone's thinking outside what the heck is The Raiders are

528
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: going to the same damn thing over and over.

529
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Speaker 4: I can't stand this.

530
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Speaker 1: What if they hired Davis Webb, the thirty year old

531
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach of the Broncos. He is a little bit

532
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Speaker 1: of a X factor here who not only interviewed with

533
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Speaker 1: the Raiders, which.

534
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Speaker 2: Is what are we doing?

535
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Speaker 4: I like Davis Webb to be clear, he's a.

536
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Speaker 1: Nice doing with the Ravens as well. Which I find

537
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Speaker 1: interesting is where.

538
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Speaker 3: Is this like when like companies have fake interviews to

539
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: try to steal ideas from outta.

540
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Speaker 2: But I do have a theory here.

541
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Speaker 1: So Cliff Kingsbury is reportedly interviewing with the Ravens. I

542
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if that both Davis Webb, who is

543
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach of the Broncos right now, and Cliff Kingsbury.

544
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Speaker 1: We're both getting interviewed with Baltimore for the head coaching job,

545
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Speaker 1: more to get them in the building comfortable, learn as

546
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Speaker 1: much as they can about him, to potentially offer them

547
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Speaker 1: the coordinator job when they choose someone else.

548
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: So like you choose Vance Joseph and he brings Davis

549
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: web along as his OC or.

550
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Speaker 1: More specifically jesse mentor yeah, okay, and they end up

551
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: offering him big time money. Either one of them I

552
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: think would be interesting offensive coordinator choices. No, I think

553
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Speaker 1: I think that could be the Ravens list, because the

554
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Speaker 1: Ravens is the most to me, that's the best job.

555
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: It's it's not even Clark Jackson, not even.

556
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: They're talking to Brian Flores, they're talking to Bands Joseph,

557
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Speaker 1: They're talking to Clinton Kubiak. Naggie is somehow getting an

558
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Speaker 1: interview whatever Matt Naggie's agent is doing.

559
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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

560
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Speaker 4: Who can Matt Naggie's agent represent me?

561
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Speaker 1: Right? Anthony Weaver, who was in the building before, we'll

562
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Speaker 1: get ahead coaching interview there, and so that's what's going

563
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Speaker 1: on there.

564
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Speaker 3: Anthony Weaver has extremely talented children at sports.

565
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Speaker 4: Just so you know, I didn't know.

566
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Speaker 3: I was watching his kid and he's got like a

567
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Speaker 3: kid who's I don't know, middle school agents, a lot

568
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Speaker 3: of them.

569
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Speaker 4: Damn, who is this kid? Like danc Anthony waters on

570
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: him like, well makes sense? So they live in Florida.

571
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Speaker 1: A baby is an athletic and it's not because of

572
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: the jeans, although that definitely helps us, because.

573
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Speaker 4: Well, you have this kid was actually really freaking good.

574
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying you got you have the best coaching

575
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: that money can buy.

576
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Speaker 4: It's like what am I looking at here?

577
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: In house training? The John Harbaugh thing in Miami. I

578
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: I do want to leave on this because I think

579
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: it's been really interesting the whole New York and I

580
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: would everything that's happening.

581
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: Here, John Harbaugh, What why would you go to New York?

582
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 4: Tell me the reasons?

583
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me on it.

584
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: So everyone in New York thinks that it's a way

585
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: better job because you have a quarterback in Jackson Dart.

586
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: You have a quarterback you didn't pick. Okay, Okay.

587
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: You have Malik Neighbors, you have Andrew Thomas, you have

588
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Speaker 1: Abdull Carter, you have Brian Burns. You do have like

589
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: a decent amount of like real guys that you can

590
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: see like making Pro Bowls, and there's not a lot

591
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: of You have Dexter Lawrence.

592
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: You have some of that.

593
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Speaker 1: Okay, And then you're also the Giants. And this is

594
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Speaker 1: where I think they're they're totally off the rocker. They

595
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: think that it still matters, that the Giants are like

596
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: an organization that matters, and there is respectable organization and

597
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: they're a classy organization. It's like, you literally have the

598
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: worst record of any team in the NFL over the

599
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: last decade and you've cycled through coaches like you're the Raiders.

600
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Speaker 2: So I don't think that is an advantage.

601
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: I have bread crumbs for you here. Okay, until you

602
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: start seeing former players that aren't named like Eli Manning

603
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: or like they're like absolute premiere, premier premier guys. Until

604
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: you see like them standing on the sideline willing to

605
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: help out, coming to training camp, being involved, wanting to

606
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: be there, coming back.

607
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: For what do you see for the Broncos?

608
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: How many of the Super Bowl fifty team mates came

609
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: back for that whatever Bronco day they had, until you

610
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: have it was actually against the Giants. Interestingly, until you

611
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: have those kind of guys coming back, something's weird and

612
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: it's not and it ain't the coach, and it ain't

613
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: the it ain't the Malik neighbors, and you gotta you

614
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: gotta think, what what is it that it could be

615
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: some it's just something's up.

616
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Speaker 2: Well, the losing has been a problem, and.

617
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Speaker 4: A lot of Giants fans blue other stuff to.

618
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: A lot of Giants fans think that Joe Shane being there,

619
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Speaker 1: the general manager who I thought was going to lose

620
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: his job did not lose his job, is the thing

621
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Speaker 1: that's going to lose them John Harbaugh or get in

622
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: the way. I would say, that's not the reason you're.

623
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: Not going to get Johnathan.

624
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: That's not the reason you're not because if you get

625
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, John Harbor's going to get to run that

626
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: entire building and he's going to get to do whatever

627
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: he wants. And if he wants to just flat out

628
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: fire Joe Shane, he could do that. Or if he

629
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: wants to do what Mike Rabel did with Elliott Wolf,

630
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: who's helping to run the front office, he could just

631
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: keep them and have Elliott Wolf help to execute the

632
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: vision that he has. Like Mike Rabel is running the Patriots,

633
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf is not running the Patriots, but he was

634
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: there before. And so if John Harbro wanted, he could

635
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: have Joe Shane help the cause, and he would bring

636
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: in his own people as well to be part of it.

637
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: But I don't know what it is. I'm not saying

638
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's Joe Shane or not. But

639
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that when you have a historic team

640
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: like the Giants that has Super Bowl victories in this century,

641
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: I mean in the past whatever twenty years, they have

642
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: multiple and you don't see those people on a regular

643
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: basis down there pounding for them like just something's up,

644
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: Something's up.

645
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: Something also was up in the first twenty four or

646
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: forty eight hours really hasn't ended.

647
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: After Harbaugh got fired, the a lot of.

648
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: Back and forth of source offs of like, no, John

649
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Harbaugh didn't lose the locker room like our guy, Ian

650
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: Rappaport reported how he kind of lost the locker room,

651
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: that the offense wasn't really listening to him anymore. And

652
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: then Adam Schefter said, nothing could be further.

653
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Speaker 3: I saw you tweet that I'm sure of God just

654
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: like I love a source off, I'm not gonna lie

655
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: a source.

656
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Of protesting too much. And that's where I'm I'm getting with.

657
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: And here's my conspiracy.

658
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: Let's hear it.

659
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: All we've heard this whole time.

660
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Is like nine teams are after John Harbor, which would

661
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Speaker 1: mean three teams at the time, you know, three teams

662
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: who didn't even have head coaching.

663
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Speaker 4: Who's his agent?

664
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Speaker 1: It's Kevin Harlan's brother. I didn't know this until Allie

665
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Connolly pointed out on our show. Who's also you know,

666
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Bob Harlan's son who used to run the packers for

667
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: a long time, So you could be connecting a lot

668
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: of goots. If he really wanted to get conspiratorial, what he.

669
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Speaker 4: Could go to there's born in football.

670
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Speaker 1: Okay, So but here's where I'm getting what I'm getting.

671
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Speaker 1: I'm like, why is he going so hard in the

672
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: paint of Like there's so much interest and the giants

673
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: love John Harbaugh and he's gonna be the best guy ever.

674
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, he really is the best coaching

675
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: candidate in this cycle, Like you don't have to go

676
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: so hard, Like you don't have to be leaking to

677
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: everyone so hard.

678
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: If you are the dude, you're gonna get the job.

679
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: And here's where my conspiratorial brain gets there. It go

680
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: that all along, John harbaughz wanted to go to Miami

681
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: where his his friend is the owner, essentially that it's Miami, uh,

682
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: and he just thought it would be a good fit

683
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: and that making the giants salivate and making it just

684
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: so obvious how much the giants love John Harbin, how

685
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: popular John Harbor is going to be with just like, hey,

686
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: let's speed up the process here, Mike Miami, let's get

687
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: rid of Mike McDaniel, Like, let's get as much money

688
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: as we possibly can for our client down in Miami,

689
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: which is our preferred landing spot in the end, and

690
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: the Giants end up just being kind of a leverage

691
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: play where they're using the Giants and the market in

692
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: general to get their clients the best possible deal as

693
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Speaker 1: soon as possible.

694
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Speaker 3: I mean, how bad is that that we're talking about

695
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: the way I feel about the Giants, Like, I have

696
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: a lot of love for the Giants as an organization.

697
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: One of my best friends played there, right, so I'm

698
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: want and the fact that you could be the little

699
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: dangle meat. We'll see the meat that could be. I mean,

700
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Speaker 3: but can I say one thing about Mikeapas.

701
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Speaker 1: They're already starting to spread some breadcrumbs in New York.

702
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, in the they still.

703
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Speaker 2: Feel goodbout John Harbor.

704
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Speaker 1: But in the event that they don't, Kevin Stefanski is

705
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: a great option, and so Kevin Stefanski might be their

706
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: backup option.

707
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: But who knows.

708
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski could end up in Baltimore, Kevin Spansky could

709
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: end up somewhere else.

710
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: We don't know.

711
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Speaker 3: I never want to be someone's back up like that. Well,

712
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: we wanted John Harbaugh. We went we sold out for him,

713
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: but now we're gonna settle for you.

714
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: You know what, pay me more for that won't cash.

715
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Speaker 4: That's another million a year for me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

717
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes it works out even better that way though.

718
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.

719
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was not the guy that Baltimore necessarily wanted.

720
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: They drafted Hayden Hurst in the first round over Lamar Jackson,

721
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: but they ended up with Lamar Denver. Broncos didn't want

722
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Remember, they wanted Damiko Ryans and then they

723
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: wanted Dan Quinn and they settled for Sean Payton as

724
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: their third choice, and they did pay him a lot

725
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: of money and that has worked out fantastic.

726
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: But see, he made them pay. See that's what that's

727
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: what we got to do to make it. I'm sure

728
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: their agents figure that one out.

729
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Though.

730
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Speaker 2: I love this stuff.

731
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: Wait, let me tell you the Mike McDaniel's. Oh I

732
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: love this stuff so much too. Rumor strong rumor that

733
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: he's interviewing or been contacted. I don't know if he's interviewed,

734
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: but been contacted by the Lions to be their OC.

735
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Speaker 2: That's been reported.

736
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Speaker 4: Now, Oh God, please let that happen. Hello for Christmas.

737
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: I would like Mike McDaniel to be the Lions OC

738
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: Sincerely every Lions fan ever.

739
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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel and possibly Brian Flores could have an interesting

740
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: decision this offseason, which is either have a real chance

741
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: and I don't know if other teams are going to

742
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: interview Mike daniel or not.

743
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: We'll see.

744
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: He literally just got fired.

745
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: Would you rather, you know, take the Cardinals or let's

746
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: say Titans job as a head coach or and maybe

747
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Flores gets a head coaching offer. It's

748
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: very possible he doesn't or would you like to You

749
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Speaker 1: don't think he goes to break the salary structure of

750
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Speaker 1: what a coordinator could make in the league, because I

751
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: think there is a very real possibility that Mike McDaniel

752
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: Brian Flores could make more as a head coach. Then

753
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: let's say the Cardinals head coach is going to get,

754
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: the Titans head coach is going to get Zach Taylor

755
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: makes right now, so Brian Flores could make that as

756
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensive court, or McDaniel could with the Lion

757
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, something like that.

758
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: All of them need to write Chip Kelly, thank you no,

759
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: because Chip Kelly setting the market at six million for

760
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator.

761
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm a Northwestern grad.

762
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: That's the biggest police ever because the Raiders are paying

763
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: him to be to the os of.

764
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Speaker 4: My little alma mater, little little engine that could there.

765
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Speaker 3: But ultimately I'm looking at this six million for a coordinator, right,

766
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: So that's the market.

767
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 4: Baby.

768
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: If I'm Mike McDaniel and I have a chance.

769
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Speaker 4: To I'm Mike mccanna, I'm like seven, I have a chance.

770
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: To be either Jared Goff or Lamar Jackson's offensive coordinator

771
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: next year versus what's behind door number three with the Cardinals.

772
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: It's like, I think I'd rather rehab my value, enjoy

773
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: coaching football for a year, maybe two, and then get ahead.

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00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: I have a number of friends who are former coaches

775
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: and position we're position coaches and then became head.

776
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: Coaches without fail.

777
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: They all would take the coordinator position for a lot

778
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: of money with with no and some of them multiple

779
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: time head coaches. And that stuff gets really hard because

780
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: now you're not just responsible for yourself, but like the

781
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: other people you have to bring with you.

782
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: Is interviewing everywhere in this cycle. Robert Salath like a

783
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: guy who has clearly been enjoying life far more this

784
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: season as a coordinator than he was as a Jets

785
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: head coach.

786
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: It's the skill set to be a head coach is

787
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: not one thing, because every team is configured so differently.

788
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 3: The skill set to be the Arizona Cardinals head coach

789
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: and the Baltimore Ravens head coach. Like Ravens, very well resourced,

790
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: great front office that is going to again the resources

791
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: they throw it is very, very different than the.

792
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: Resources that you get in Arizona. It's just different. So

793
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: it's not the same job everywhere. Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator.

794
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: Pretty close, some varying levels of responsibility, but much closer

795
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: than what head coach means.

796
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Cynthia's cooking forget the thing. Oh yeah, it's just more

797
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: just quick items. We are gonna say goodbye. Mike McCarthy

798
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: is interviewing with the Giants. I thought that one was interesting.

799
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: Uh, and then.

800
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: Man, I somebody bring Rex Ryan back.

801
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I listen to how he pronounced his name ahead of

802
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: time to make sure I got it right, and now

803
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: I forgot it.

804
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 2: It was called a d add and dirty. Uh.

805
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: The Seattle fensive coordinator. I don't think I got it right.

806
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: Uh, I think there's a like Shieldhouse that one's that

807
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: one's all crazy to me too.

808
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: That will he'll be the actually different that's a different name.

809
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: Shielhouse will be the oct at Tampa.

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00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: That's my guess. Okay, and that's my guest. I don't

811
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Speaker 2: know anything. The item I.

812
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: Wanted to mention is that, yes, Josh Grizzard is out

813
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: as Bucks offensive coordinator. Shodd Bowles has been confirmed that

814
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: he is coming back next year. I'm not shocked about Grizzard,

815
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: but Steve Alizolo, Uh yeah, who has the check check

816
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: the mic pod?

817
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 4: Now the third team baby, he pointed the thirty third team.

818
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: Here.

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00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Maybe the defining Baker Mayfield stat of his career, which

820
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: is now that Grizzard is out, that Baker, his offensive coordinator,

821
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: has either gotten a head coaching job, been elevated, or

822
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: been fired every year of his career except for twenty

823
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: twenty one Alex van Pelt, which to me is sort

824
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: of the perfect Baker Mayfield boom or bust career.

825
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: It's either these Barry bonds.

826
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Speaker 1: He's either getting people hired or he's getting people fired.

827
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Speaker 2: It's kind of a crazy I love it.

828
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Speaker 4: I love that.

829
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Speaker 2: I don't love it for Joshkazar.

830
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you don't ever love it for the

831
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: person who's been fired. But I'm just saying I love that.

832
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: That's for I don't want anyone to get fired.

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Speaker 1: Great, it's a great stat and that would be fascinating. Yeah,

834
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Speaker 1: I think the Rams they're going to lose more talent,

835
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: like they do every.

836
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: Office, whichever one of It's like a lot of AFC teams, right,

837
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: So if any of them do anything interesting, I'll become

838
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: a fan. I mean, I'm going to say a Lions

839
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: fan too, So that's why I said not NFC.

840
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: But if any of them do.

841
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: Anything for at least interview interesting people you're not.

842
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: Even interviewed, like, go get if it's.

843
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: Me, I'm going to interview some college coaches just to

844
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: learn something and give them the leverage for going to

845
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: make more money in college because that's a crap job.

846
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: They need more like having to recruit kids over and

847
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: over again, your same kids and they can.

848
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: Just leave you after committing.

849
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: That's just a whole But we got to wait out Signetia.

850
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: I think that he's at least interesting.

851
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: It would be interesting at least interview these people. The

852
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: great part is this isn't over. No, I'm with you

853
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: that we will possibly have more if Mike Tomlin's gone,

854
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: or if Lafleur's gone, or McDermott will obviously be tracking

855
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: all of that. We will be back in the feed

856
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday night.

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00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: I am really looking forward to it.

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00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: We started this last year the NFL Daily in the Playoffs,

859
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: going live after every playoff night, so it'll be me

860
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: and Bill Barnwell live on YouTube. Come and join us

861
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: right after Bears and Packers ends on Saturday night. It

862
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: will be live on YouTube, and then of course it'll

863
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: be in the feed, three shows recapping all the fun

864
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: best weekend of the year. Thank you, Cynthia for the

865
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: picks and the insight. We will see you Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: M