WEBVTT - Creepy Spooky 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:16.440 Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.919 I'm one of your hosts, Lea Lamar, and we have 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:23.840 with us and our wonderful, beautiful co host Teddy Melancho. Well, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.720 thank you so much for the for the positive intro today. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.240 I'm a little I have to be honest, I'm a 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.000 little down in the dumps today. I know, I wanted 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.760 to kind of just hop right into this special Halloween 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.720 flavored episode flavored just let me live, Let me live. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:41.800 But I do feel like we have some pressing issues 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.839 we should discuss before we go into the Halloween murders. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.720 You mean my day so far? Yeah, that's That's what 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.680 I'm talking about so pretty much today, as you know, 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.160 we I woke up, it was like a normal day, um, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.280 took the kids and worked out, took the kids to 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.200 the bus, and then all of a sudden, I started 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.319 getting these text messages from people like is to read okay? 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.160 And I'm like, what are you talking about? And then 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.520 I saw the the you know, the news outlets that 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:16.840 she her house had been broken into and just her 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:21.559 kids were home and that she was robbed. And so 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.480 I spent the morning over there at her house and 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.320 I don't want to share anything private from her, and 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.120 but it's just one of those things. It's just so heartbreaking. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.360 And I know when people say that you're on a 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.039 reality TV show, like you signed up for this, and 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.080 that's the part that's so devastating. It's like nobody signs 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.560 up to have to be violated in that way, and 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.280 it's just so so frightening, especially involving your kids. And 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.080 you know, she's just so strong, and I just my 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.880 heartbreaks for her. And of course, like I have to 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.160 like get in an Instagram fight with somebody over it 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.920 because I saw that a girl that used to be 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.240 on The Housewives posted some thing that put a portion 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.200 of her address on it, and I was just like 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.080 why why do that? And I mean, I think we 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.840 talked so much about real crimes here, but like people 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:13.040 really do go on Instagram to try to get information 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.919 on people. So it's like you don't need like people 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.880 whenever they get mad and they post somebody's phone number, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.880 they post a part of an address, it's like you 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.040 don't know what the repercussions could actually be, and it's 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.120 just it's really sad. And I think, you know, we 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.040 we talked about a lot of crimes here and we 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.200 we'd love to dig into it, but no matter what, 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.400 like I would never in a million years I think 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.200 to try to like is it docs someone? Is that 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:43.280 what it's called? When? Yeah, I mean because people, you know, robbers, anybody, 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.040 they know how to how to find extra information. And 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.160 it's just I don't know, it's just it made me 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.160 sad and it made just like the intrusion on her privacy, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.480 but also just how scared she must have been and like, yeah, 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.040 so that's been my day, um, which is all a 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.360 much worse day for her, But I just I don't know, 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.440 it just made me feel sad. But it also made 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.120 me think about like all the different ways that we 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.919 all have to protect start protect ourselves in this city, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.160 like turning our alarms on being there, like just because 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.799 crime is prevalent no matter where, like no matter if 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.960 we're sluice and we're digging into it, it can happen 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.880 to anyone at any time. And it doesn't mean just 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.200 because you're in the public eye. Yeah that's that's really 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.560 dont you are a great friend, And through it all, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.240 your hair looks amazing, which I think needs to be said. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.120 And we have our One of our producers, Dmitri here 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.400 with us, who hasn't commented on your hair yet. I 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.760 just wanted to point that out, but I want to 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.640 thank you for that you have beautiful hair. In our 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.480 producer Dmitri is here who doesn't have hair. Maybe that's 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.560 why I didn't compliment, because he's like, would you want 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.720 to buy some of its extensions? You can borrow some 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.200 of mine. I think even if I had complimented your hair, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.560 which I think looks fantastic, at some point, I think 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.520 Leo would have taken me down and been like, well, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.880 how what do you know about hair? So that's why 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.640 I was your comments. You know what, I'm really looking 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.360 forward to all of the comments that that say those 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:18.320 vapid bitches speaking of nightmares my ex boyfriend called so 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.680 that's where I'm at should also be considered a crime, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.359 which one. I mean, The list is long. I posted 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.640 a tweet as a joke that said squid game, except 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.880 all the players are my exes, and I meant it 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.039 in the fact that all of my ex boyfriends were poor, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.720 but everyone just took it as the fact that I've 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.559 dated four and fifty six people. You know, the number 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:50.320 is significantly higher. Like, okay, well that's the clip right there, right, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:59.880 Teddy Mama four calls Leo Lamar. Pretty sure we can. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.320 We're gonna claim it's three like everybody else. No, No, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.400 it's a four thousand, five and sixty. They just missed 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.680 a zero there, just one decimal over. She's a cal 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.200 ripping of dating the iron Man over here. Thank you, Dmitri. Welcome, 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.920 great iron Man reference. You've not iron Man d C. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.279 I'm just saying that you when you when you're crossing 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.400 that you've dated four thousand guys. I'm an olympian. That 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.120 is somewhat criminal that you've dated four thousand and yet 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.880 we still have to call all of them. And next 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.160 it's criminal that I've dated over four thousand people and 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:39.279 I'm still single. That's not one ring. You know what. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.159 Don't show your ring while I'm here. No ring showing. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.240 Oh god, okay, Teddy's gonna be over at my house 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.200 and be like, oh okay, anyway you guys, um, what 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.880 are you going for? Is for Halloween? What's your costume? Well? 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:53.920 Are we talking to me? I mean we'll talk to 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.920 Dmitri later, so yeah, yeah, we haven't led Dmitri we 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.240 haven't announced that he's allowed to speak. He's just spoken. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.320 He's just taking it upon himself. Well for what, I'm 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.320 doing an adult thing one time, and we are. It's 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.800 a fire and ice theme, So I'm gonna be fire 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.320 and my husband's gonna be ic even though he told 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.720 me I picked him out a terrible costume. And then 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.919 with the kids, Slate is going to be Cruella and 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:23.360 then we're all her Dalmatians. Wait, I'm devastated because I'm 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.400 going as Cruella and I have been waiting for a 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.719 hundred and one man here to go with Dalmatian. With 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.880 your track record, you should be able to find him. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.840 I feel like you could just cast some out, like 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.280 just pay them each a dollar and they'd come running. Uh, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.600 this is I'm devastated. I'm devastated to hear this news. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.440 I thought it was a really original idea. Yeah, well, 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.920 well apparently it wasn't. Corrella was a big movie this year. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.080 It was you know, had a good soundtrack, so I know, well, 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.720 this is the first time I feel like I'm going 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.000 as a hot villain. You know, everywhere every year I 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.800 try to go with something creative, and this year I 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.560 decided just go hot, which is exciting for me. That's exciting. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.279 It leads to a lot more opportunity, which apparently I 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:14.640 didn't get into the five thousand up. I always think 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.200 it's weird when people are like, oh, look at that 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.240 sexy cow or like, you know, it's like you want 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:25.520 sexy cow cat its like, oh her utters. I feel 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.640 personally victimized by that comment. We should start, We should 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.480 start the show. You have to start. I'm sorry, d Meetri. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.240 Did you have a thought about how we're running our podcast? 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.120 Thank you so much so. I was just trying to 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.200 save us from going down to part that's gonna be 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:47.480 cut out? Should we He's like, guys, we're let's save 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.880 that editing for later. Um, all right. The first one 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:55.160 we got to talk about is Ronald O'Brien has been 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.880 called the man who killed Halloween and the candy Man. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.080 On Halloween and nine seventy four and eight year old 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.120 Timothy O'Brien returned to his Houston home from a long 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.480 night of trick or treating. His father, Ronald gave him 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.520 one last piece of candy, a pixie stick, which, of 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.560 course Timothy eight instantly. Within moments, the boy was vomiting, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.680 and he died on the way to the hospital. After 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.960 changing a story multiple times, police learned that Ronald was 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.000 responsible for his son's death, as he had poisoned the 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:30.800 candy with cyanide. How sick is psychopath like so and 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.240 it turned out that he had a life insurance policy 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.120 on his on his child. That's next level. I mean. Also, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.319 how can you be called the man who killed Halloween? 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.840 Of Halloween is alive? And well, well, I mean he 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.839 killed on Halloween. Maybe they just forgot them. Also, so 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.520 you guys know about candy Man. If you say candyman 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.800 five times in the mirror, what happens, right, Michael Keaton appears? 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.600 Oh now they have to keep it in make sense. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:05.040 The thing you Dmitri, I really appreciate you. But you know, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.880 a man with a bloody hook comes and murders you. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.520 Isn't that the game? Is that? What? Really? What you say? 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.600 I thought it was like you say something red red. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.960 I don't know, you like turn out a different that's 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.559 a different one. What is that one? I think that's 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.920 red Rum? Or like bloody Mary red Rum. Yeah, we're 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.520 bloody Mary. I don't know. But either way, all the 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:30.880 fun ways to get married, I mean married murder Mary. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.000 I think that might be the saddest thing we're gonna 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:40.480 here today. Ok Okay, that's number one, all right. You 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.640 gotta do number two because I can't pronounce the last 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.319 name properly. Oh when you think I can? All right, well, here, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.600 I'd rather you mess it up. Thank thank you, thank you. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.960 I'm Leo Lamar. I'm here to mess everything up today. Alright. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:57.320 So our second Halloween murder two friends lesliean Mazza, and 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:02.240 adrian in sog. I had to add the hand motions. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.840 They were stabbed late one Halloween night. Okay, Leslie and 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.480 Adrianne and their friend Lauren. Mean, So did this happen 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.400 in Italy? Okay, We're busy handing out candy to trick 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.840 or treaters in Napa, California. This is hallowe Night two 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:25.160 thousand four. Means awoke to a scream from the upstairs bedrooms, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.160 and you know what she does, Teddy what? He runs 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:34.560 out of the house and drives away, leaving her friends behind. 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.200 I feel like he would do that to me, thank 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.840 you so much. I would. But also she has no 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.000 survivors guilt. She was just like, I'm out of here. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.199 I didn't even try to see what was wrong or 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.680 saved her friends. What if they just had a bad nightmare, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.800 you know, But instead she decided to bounce. Okay, so 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.280 they were both twenty six. They were stabbed to death, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.840 and Eric Matthew, I don't know if it's Italian, just 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.120 like I had to do it that way. A friend 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.240 of one of the victims turned himself in and confessed 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.880 to the murders, so not really a friend. He never 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.800 told anyone his motive, which is so odd, especially because 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.679 you know a lot of people who um a lot 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:16.920 of there are a lot of people who come forward 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.760 about murders who aren't actually the murderers. So this is 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.640 kind of like a strange one because it seems like 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.679 he might not even have been the murderer. Um, that 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.559 seems like a strange thing to confess, especially because he's 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.760 sit spending a life sentence without the possibility of all right, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.520 but he didn't even have a motive, So it's just 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.200 I mean, it's kind of an odd case. But also 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.000 that is that woman is the worst friend ever. Like 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.079 if I was an employer and I googled her name 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.560 and saw she just bounced on her friends. I feel 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.640 like she he had to have a motive, he just 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.080 didn't share. Maybe it was a lover's core allegedly, who 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.880 knows lover's quarrel? Yeah, like it could have been that 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.760 they were all mixed up in something to get who knows? 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.439 Also nice to be in love? Well, not on this 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.439 Halloween night, Not on this Halloween with Leslian and Adrian. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:13.240 I can't wait to hear the Valentine show. Well, Dmitri, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.800 do you want to take on William Leah? You have 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:23.560 your permission. Thank you for clearing your throat, Dmitri. We 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.920 really needed to hear the flag go on. There was 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.400 no flagm William Liskey killed his family members on Halloween 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.720 in two thousands, ten, sixteen year old Devin Griffin came 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.360 home on Halloween to play video games after attending church. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.240 They're always coming home from church and spending the previous 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.520 nights sleeping out. He noticed the Michigan home was too quiet, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.040 so we went to check on his family members. According 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.439 to the Sandusky Register, Griffin proceeded to find his stepfather 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.199 in bed covered in blood. When police arrived, they found 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.400 two more bodies, Griffin's mother and brother. Police eventually learned 0:12:55.440 --> 0:13:00.640 the murderer was Griffin's stepbrother, William Lisky. Liskey pleaded guilty 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.720 to three counts of aggravated murder to avoid the death penalty, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.079 but found was found dead in his jail cell in 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.960 two thousand fifteen from a self inflicted rule. I just 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:14.160 have to say, it's always too quiet in the suburbs 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.439 wherever you are, you know what I mean, It's always scary, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.360 and I just feel like I'm never safe, Like there 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.640 are too many crazy people in the city. But then 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.120 when you go to the suburbs to get away from 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.640 all the crazy people, it's too quiet and that's creepy, 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.240 you know. It's like, where are you safe? On a 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:36.040 spaceship with Jeff Bezos and Mars. I definitely don't think so. Really, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.160 I would let him impregnant me. Of course you would. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:45.800 You're like, what's his name's wife? You're like Robert Durst's wife. Yeah, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.960 I'm just worried about the money. I'm like, and don't 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:52.239 let that man be a lawyer. He'll take all the money. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.960 I love that woman, by the way, I believe me. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.160 I remember, and I'll never after my own heart. I 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:15.480 can't after this episode no one will ever marry Well, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.960 after what you suggesting that we do this episode and 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.200 me not knowing anything about the Cecil Hotel and having 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.720 to learn everything about it in the past four eight hours, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.600 I am so beyond obsessed. I feel like I thought 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.240 you're gonna say you're gonna break up with me, but 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.160 you went the other way. No, I loved. I loved 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.480 this one. You're welcome. Loved some of the others was 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.120 hard for me, but oh my god, absolutely loved this one. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.240 Do you like well? So really briefly, so these are 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.600 this is not a Halloween murder, but this is a 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.960 this is hotel Halloween. There's always a murder happening at 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:59.720 this hotel. I even so when you watched the documentary, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.360 first of all, they call it hotel death. The fact 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.680 that there's a question of is there a room that 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.960 someone hasn't died in? You don't want to be asking 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.960 that question or receiving that question, especially as the manager 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.200 of the hotel. Why would you continue to work there? 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.000 While you're talking about the manager of the hotel, she 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.440 gave me some real shady vibes, shady af like, just 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.320 even the way she talked about it and then she 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.680 kept calling the hotel of her I'm like, how do 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.560 you know? Did you ask the hotel? It's pronounced like 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.760 I just don't believe that, you know, And I thought 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.840 beyond shady was that they Okay, So to let you 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.520 guys know that the hotel was super dangerous. Multiple crimes 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.400 happened within this hotel. So what they did was, because 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.760 they got so many bad reviews, they created another hotel 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.920 inside of this hotel with a different entrance that was 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.520 called what was it called Leah Stand Maine Stay On Maine. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.800 But the worst part about it is they still had 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.280 to share a hotel. I mean, that's an elevator. Wait, okay, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.240 first of all, let me just say the Cecil Hotel 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.640 is in downtown l A, right next to skid Row, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:16.360 and it is essentially haunted, right, so so many people 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.720 have committed suicide, their serial killers have lived there, like 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.680 Richard Ramras, which we'll get into in a second. And 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.680 the funny thing is that the the actual lobby is 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.680 so beautiful and the outside the building is beautiful, and 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.200 on the inside it's filled with murderers. It's kind of 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:37.840 like the but then the rooms, the rooms are disgusting Yeah, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.440 the Cecil hotels, just like me, looks fine on the outside, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:46.920 but the inside is a big old mess, very dead one, 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:54.360 full of problems, full of problems have stayed there. No, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:59.320 over four thousand killer men have stayed back. Oh I 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.480 almost just said something very disturbing, but it would have 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:07.760 gotten cut. But um, god, I hate censoring myself. Look Um, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.480 first of all, I'll just say this. I think that 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.280 if you love shopping, you go to the mall. If 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.960 you love murder, you go to the Hotel Cecil. Some 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.080 of these people were not even meaning to stay at 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.560 the Hotel Cecil, like Elisa Lamb, for example. She thought 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.959 she was staying on Maine, and then the hotel even 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.760 flagged her as somebody with concerning behavior and moved her 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.400 out of her shared living area into her own room. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.359 So Hotel Cecil slash Day on Maine knew that things 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:48.639 were not good. Well, let's just dive right into the 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:54.840 Elizel Lamb case. Okay. It is absolutely disturbing for those 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:59.719 of you who know nothing about this case. So essentially 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.480 we'll just say that they chalked up her death to 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:11.920 mental illness and accidental suicide. However, there are a lot 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:17.159 of conspiracy theories about her death. So she was Canadian 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.639 and she moved to the States where she was going 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.680 to be a student, and she stayed at the Cecil 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.800 Hotel downtown because it was affordable, and just like Teddy said, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.880 she was in a shared room and she had a 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.280 lot of odd behavior, and so she was put in 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.600 her own private room. If you have odd behavior at 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:47.399 the Cecil Hotel, you're probably a murderer, right in honestly, yeah. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.240 I mean the fact that they're saying that she was 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:55.120 disturbing people lets me know that she was probably at 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.560 that point, aren't You shouldn't the manager of the hotel. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.280 If you have to do that, then maybe called the 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:05.640 authorities and alert them, or maybe it seems like they 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.200 weren't really alerting the authorities when they had a serial 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.960 killer on their premises. So kind of seems like a 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.199 safe place for people who are unwell. The part that 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.520 made me really sad is she was really on was 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.040 it Tumbler? She was on Tumbler a lot, and she 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.359 was sharing her emotions and sharing like how she was 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.480 struggling mentally and certain medications would work, and then she'd 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.720 have days where she couldn't leave her bed, and so 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.240 it's like there was multiple cries for help. She was 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.880 also diagnosed by Pohler correct and then unable to find 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.720 a medication that is able to help her. And but 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.520 the one thing that they didn't mention in the documentary 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:49.440 is if you stop a medication immediately, you have suicidal tendencies. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:54.200 Antidepressant like they I mean, I've been on antidepressants before 0:19:54.680 --> 0:20:01.360 and on them like when you're going off, they make 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.920 you taper off in a certain way because if not, 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.720 it creates withdrawal, with not just withdrawal, but like it 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.159 says like one of the side effects can be suicidal thoughts. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.600 So I mean I do. I mean, you've got to 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.000 explain the elevator and what happened in the elevator and 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.720 her missing and then he never as I know, and 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.960 then we'll get more into you know, of course, what 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.920 I think as someone who will probably never be off antidepressants. 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:31.879 First of all, let me just say very pro taking 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:36.720 care of your mental health, therapy, psychiatry, whatever works for you. 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.399 But don't do nothing. That's my advice. I think getting 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:44.320 help is the right way to go and does not 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.679 make you weak. I think it makes you much stronger. 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:53.160 Thank God for Dr Kleinberg, Doctor Feldstein. I'm just naming Jews. 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.360 They're not actually my doctor, but I you know all 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.520 the people in my life who keep me medicated and alive, loved, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.920 all of you, you know who you are. Okay, So, 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:11.040 first of all, Alisa Lamb's death her is still very 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.639 odd and suspicious. Right, the toxicology tests and the autopsy 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.800 came back saying that she didn't have any drugs in 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.159 her system, and they ruled it an accidental drowning. And 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.239 they found her body in a water tank at the 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.440 roof of the building. And people only realized because their 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:34.360 water started turning brown and people started complaining and they 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:45.520 were literally drinking water with rotting human corpse. Okay, but 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.439 then there's more. So there's I mean, that's just the 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.840 tip of the iceberg. First of all, it would take 0:21:52.480 --> 0:22:00.560 so much for her to accidentally drop into the water tank. 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.000 And also she was found without her clothes on in 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.840 the water tank. A lot of people say that when 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:11.200 you start to have hypothermia, you actually take your off. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.560 It's a thing. It's not just you know, you don't 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.119 feel like getting naked. Well, that's also when you're in 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.480 an igloo, you're supposed to take your clothes off, but 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.320 also if you're trying to get out of something like that, 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.200 because I feel it's about to go into I once 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.960 dated an Eskimo and that's what he told. Now that's 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.959 where you now, it's going to go there it maybe 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.200 we may have gotten through it without Yeah, it wasn't 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:42.720 even my fault, only thank you. But they so misreported 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:47.320 and they said in like the news reports that the 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.360 water tank was open, but it was actually closed, so 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:55.240 that misreporting was actually a big snaff foo um. And 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.840 they have footage of her in the elevator where it 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.520 looks she walks into the elevator and she almost calm 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:02.960 at first, but then all of a sudden you see 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.240 her like pressing all the buttons and doing these things 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.200 with her hands. And then they show a clip of 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.719 the elevator door closing and her whipping her head around. 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.800 But then it looks like part of the footage has 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.000 been taken out like that. They you see it start 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.960 to close and then it so but you never see 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:23.000 how the person here. It's sped up. They've completely made 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.840 the time stamp unreadable so that you can't even see 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.680 what time it's at. There are theories that you see 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.800 a shoe like a like the heel of another person's 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.840 shoe in the footage briefly, and also, I do want 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.199 to just just go back for two seconds because I 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.760 feel like we missed um a couple of essential moments. 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.600 So Alisa on Tumblr also mentioned, you know that she 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.480 was going out and meeting people, and we also know 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:57.240 that the hotel was filled with questionable characters, so we 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.199 don't know if she was romantically involved with someone. We 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.240 don't know if there was someone in the hotel who 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.719 was chasing her. We don't know if she was just 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:10.040 off her meds and actually having a complete breakdown. But 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.879 what happened the night of her disappearance was that the 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.680 last tape that they have of her is her going 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.399 into the elevator acting suspicious, which will come back to 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.000 you in a second, and then disappearing, and then there's 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.720 no more footage of her. But then several weeks later 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.919